past he's got people here taking footage of him because he's being recognized around them for other documentary purposes of his contributions and he's written as you can see here that god problem how a god cosmos creates which is a tour de force we've talked about on a number of occasions he's also written a book the mohammad code which is a thing having to do with zionism and the situ a movie maybe only going around talking about what's going on in iran now but who met in most cases already have things flying around other planets and moons yeah yeah yeah and my task i wondered why was there yeah my background was the jazz to realize something here you know that when i was in town i got into theoretical seen accomplished before and yeah escaping the gravity well putting something into orbit right and there were i had a chart on my wall of all the sounding rockets and we know how to go and i was eleven you didn't have time x and trainer and things like that written a i've written a visual manifesto for the future of life and the universe called the call garden the solar system green the galaxy far is that and if i'd have to email you a copy lee's do and it had to go it will try to remember that out and galaxy the idea is to garden everything to garden every one of those bald barren appalling little tales of stone white in the sky why don't you think about something really grand just a little thing like darwin you  what you're talking you know this is pretty recent ten years old you had the yeah you know so so the head of the company who's an old friend yeah i said want to get a scientific advisory board so i started looking up people at cal tech and mit people with heavy duty credentials right and i got together and advisory board of some really spectacular people and one of them said we're doing an event in two weeks why don't you come and i was there and now all of these high powered space people around and i'd listen and listen to them for an hour and a half yeah and then i finally said something i said it looks to me like what you people are after is an energy infrastructure for the solar system the st session out there well a little bit more yeah so during that st day our team leader said we're and to do an exercise we're going to divide you up into three teams and one team is going to talk about power beaming down into caverns on the moon and the mars so that you can have a broker way off in the distance down deep down under the bottle under the surface and it's still getting enough power to operate the nd team will work yeah and these are both very hot areas to explore right now yeah right ok i got liquid water you know how many cases so at any rate really yeah yeah so or frozen water but i think there is liquid up there too at any rate so he said now who wants to do the power beaming mission and ten out of the twenty people in the room raise their hands that he said who wants to do the titan mission and seven out of the twenty people in the room raised their hand slowly then you know different people and people ok so that's and at that moment something became really obvious there were three of us in the room who were just salivating to get our hands on what nobody else wanted we didn't care what it was as long as it was something nobody else wanted because all of us had a tendency to see the infinite possibility in the most rejected of things sounds like the life of a moon so we got together to have it was an amazing team and we designed the system on a shooting mission to venus and other people started attracting people yeah and then we heard him retreat to the further stand of the room so he wouldn't interrupt us and get on a cell phone and say you've got me booked on a flight in forty five minutes booked me for two days from now that's how you why so far our project was you know that's what you alan so yeah and so at any rate so we designed this incredible thing you know and six months later they flew a speck out again and we thought oh this is because our venus mission was so spectacular and now we're going to take our venus mission to develop it further no on the st day they started all over again from scratch as if we had never done anything in the st session whatsoever and that was a little your and very heavy company yeah right yeah and it was a little disturbing and we were in people that are just something they have spent a lot of money to bring twenty dollars of the best brains in north america together they've for four days for four mornings noons and nights and now they've brought us out for another four morning noon and nights we've got said trying not to challenge the leaders of the group so midday i said look let me just say something if we if we took your power tile and we took and we took your brains printed out of thin sheet and we took your thermal material layer and weak sandwich them all in one tile like on the linoleum tile and we used your software that turns individual modules like this into a swarm intelligence and if we added learning algorithms to this we would have a modular system in other words these towels together form a group brain just the way the neurons in your brain each  components are necessary to the overall effect of yeah right exactly so which is it it's always like yes you're right every kind of thinking well yeah and i would be more than i was very concerned about not challenging the primacy of our leader early yeah well if there's something to be afraid of it's all the more reason to do it right that i wonder response right so as soon as i finished our sub our secondary team who designs all of the electronics for the air force i started handing out assignments for a report and he handed them out in exactly the order that i had given in other words he had just turned the report into the project that i had just put together now i how do you put together a project like that i have no idea well you sense what everybody in the room is doing you listen very carefully you have as much respect as possible for these specialize ations on like you did with know the groupings you are going to put  term they need a fucking visionary what a fucking visionary what you get that in another room they need somebody who can pull everything together and put it in a larger context you could say yeah it looks like a literally i'm tile right at the top sheet is antenna a bunch of they're printed on a thin sheet of plastic the thickness of a candy wrapper and there are all kinds of antenna and there for there for two reasons down is computer is computers really printed on another thin plastic film with the thickness of a candy wrapper and one of the members of our venus jim was from g e and we had when we started talking about printing computers on thin sheets of plastic he reached into his briefcase hauled out this piece of plastic with what looked like four tails attached oh yeah about that long right and showed us on each of these kite tails easier to lease than sheets translates the differential the heat differential between the sunny side up in the dark side down into electricity and the next layer down as a sheet battery like the sheet battery that so many uses on laptops like the one i use for example i don't know why we're doing these calls and not getting anything out of it we should discontinue them and he was right there was no there was no visible reason for me to be calling and bothering anyone with you so here was another really nervous spirit well that would be awkward for me because it would you know humility and all that kind of thing but all right now would but the point d is that i saw a mythic figure store figure in the making somebody who can influence people one hundred and ten successfully taken cargo to the international space station seven times or six times at this point made you think yeah yeah yeah so if you took one of these dragon capsules that i was a is designed for mars you and designed these things for  space yeah except rival capsules burn up in the atmosphere when they finish taking stuff up ilands do not have retro rockets so that they can land they can land on earth or they can land on they they form a collective brain they frighten swarm intelligence because they're equipped with that kind of software they can sense temperature they can sense seismic activity they can sense  purpose of that energy is alternately because the sheep batteries will fill and a day and a half they will gather enough energy in a day and a half to fill their batteries the real goal is to use the electricity we generate with these flocks of these things  to arrays of these things to take the water that's just below the martian surface and turn it into hydrogen oxygen and liquid water to store it so that when humans get there twenty years from now they have a pre stockpiled batch of rocket fuel so that the rocket with which are you going to take off again and take them back home with that's where they want to go and breathable oxygen so they can live there and in that they can understand well but here like zero yeah of the whole oh yeah they're very excited about it so so the deal is st we put one thousand six hundred dollars of these into orbit around the earth around the earth per round the earth right because that's easy lower earth orbit is something we do all the time  and they gather energy and there is a guy named gary bernhardt who runs a company that has been proposing to nasa that he provide he beamed energy to anybody who needs  space now right kids all over the country are designing cube sats these little things that it's a little thing the size of a shoe box and it's a satellite complete with all kinds of experimental stuff goes in orbit and goes in orbit now these things are really up there now some of them are up there now yes up there next to the satellites that are near the international center of the international space station or near the space station right so gary's project would man or jerry from the solar panels of the international space station two cube sats or there is a company cube set yeah these little shoe box sized things that heads of the university of louisville and the university of kentucky and a whole bunch of universities are putting up and planning to put up  for what purpose it where did they were there but all kinds of experiments i don't know i don't know what kinds of experiments they have in mind but they only power in addition to that there is a company there is a kind of fiber optic carrier cable that is so you can spin about a mile of it from three pounds of material and it has no flaws when you try to extrude this earth because of gravity crystals fall to the bottom of the thread and they reduce the efficiency of the cable but if you extrude this cable in a way to listen environment you do not have that flaw so you've got this extraordinary early high cost the stuff you can sell for a very high price the power your ideas tiles from these tiles gary bernhardt and his group can distribute the power to these shoe box size satellites and extrusion machines of other commercial and or prizes in space but we can provide the we have our next meeting on friday was pretty excited to be on the leading edges of the ground and they gave us and they gave us a ten thousand dollars budget for illustrators they had an illustrator in mind who works for national geographic and major major outlets and great truck carter he's well you know that he that you know that for a long time my another group the group of buzz aldrin kidnap me into forming the space development sharing committee the members of that group have been very intent on harvesting solar energy in space and beaming it transmitting it down to earth using the same kind of waves your cellphone uses and that makes sense yes it makes absolute sense that along the way in terms of being accepted by let's say the established interests and so forth in china they've been working  somewhere between ten and twenty year high beginning results they seem to be moving ahead in japan they've been working on it for twenty years japan mitsubishi has committed i believe twenty seven million dollars and just three months ago people harold yeah was one of my team leaders yeah i'm the morris moore tile project ok and when he got this position i was able to introduce him to the world's leading expert on space solar power who's been a companion of mine for the last eight years and to the head of the national space society the c e o of the national space society who's very much behind us so i suddenly found myself as the integrator the person who is able put people from a lot of diverse areas together you used to hang out with a whole lot of the at those people and bring in what i'm trying to get at working with that many different people and all the big egos and big involves and all that they didn't get that prepare you for dealing with all these signs and they never did understand what i'm writing about i never had a problem with i went to see this movie and i was profoundly disappointed because i thought i had made it only to the cutting room floor i hadn't been in the movie at all and joe gallery the filmmaker has filming us on the other side of these lights right now geo was with me and when the making the figure up one way or the other apparently i mean the movie seventeen times because four days later the newsweek review came out and it quoted it didn't quote richard branson it didn't quote several going to quote only two people in the movie it quoted one of us lester runs from from harvard once and one of us twice and it used a quote from the person who quoted twice as the emotional character of the piece and that was me so apparently i was in the movie well you see i see that what i was trying to get at really is that dealing with those few people like that in the world of music and tell you the secret dealing with those kind of people are difficult i'll tell you the secret hockey right so and i don't know anything about sports but as soon as i saw the sports you know but i soon as i saw that trailer yeah i knew that this is one of the most primal manifestations of tribal instincts i've ever seen in my life and i begged them to be in the film so they came and they shot me for their next film on saturday and when we were finished you're talking just now you know just this last saturday boy you're always get your always and he can make it right you know yeah ok so so they wouldn't when we were finished now the director of that film and i stay in touch every three weeks and i give them an update on what's going on in my work and it's always ridiculous it's always very hard to believe i wouldn't say yes what adults are there yeah so when we were finished he said well you know i want to make a movie when you don't hear one of course i've always of hoping that he would say that yeah and he said actually i want to make three movies on you know and then he told me what the three movies are so that's what's going on with film and me i'm in a bunch of films and there are ideas for films gathering around getting any are you getting any my heard you mention carter and they and the we're in video now writing is going to go on and video and writing like that but carter is the one at the species base and it's the realm of the  yeah and i think that's going to be the way visual that's the future of visualization or what we call television is the planetarium experience i think it's a very important thing is it is it going that way i haven't talked to carter in years  if you came into my office when i was running the biggest p r firm in the music industry and you said you know you did well and if you had said if you had said you wanted to work with me i gave you a little speech and little speech went like this the word image is very big right now if you expect me to craft an artificial mask for you an image that will turn you into a superstar i will get you an appointment mediately with my best competitor he does that i don't you have to understand that when we're dealing with music or entertainment we are dealing with the human soul we are dealing with your soul in an exchange between your soul and the souls of your audience this is not a business of downloads it is not a business of selling pieces of plastic it is not a business of markets or branding i and more and that is i would tell you every time you sit down at two o'clock in the afternoon to write a lyric and there's a blank computer screen or a blank piece of paper in front of you now you know with all your heart and soul you can never write another lyric again and you wonder how transmogrified and sent back down to the audience and it's a continuous reverberate or a loop when that happens you have an out of body experience you feel like you're on the ceiling watching yourself you watch yourself being played as if you were a marionette jerked around by something year i mean true it true true yeah ok make you true to yeah stick with it for the rest of your life my job is to introduce that self inside of you to the self that knows how to say hello how are you fine thank you very much and how are  you the self of daily life and i will come back every year and will do a soul check and i'll find out where your soul is because it will grow every single year that if you stay in touch with it you will have something that resonates with your audience that will as long as you're working on the things that these people are most passionate about remember i said i was an articulator for them on the st day when i talk to one million for energy infrastructure for the solar system i was an articulator for them when i put this tile package together the tile project together w their you got a car you had a thing what was it what was the singularity or the thing that rode together let's say some of the artistic people ones in rock and roll and the other ones and well there are classes very different idea do we are it's a very different experience yeah i was there you're focusing on one person now you know that that person can only succeed to the extent that is team is succeeding so you have to work with the entire team but it's really the artist you have to work with you have to keep the artist involves your deepest passions when james edmonson from carnegie mellon the ghost comes to every meeting it's because this project has engaged his deepest motivations and shown him a path to achieve things with what he's been working on all of his life that he would never thursday well that's not the only thing my my collaborator in theoretical physics pavol caracal at the cal dish and soon for applied mathematics of the russian academy of sciences in moscow pavol a month ago emailed me and said it's time for us to write another paper universe is not a bunch of separate particles it's a bunch of particles all working together and how they communicate with each other and how they use cracks in the stairstep so time to communicate with each other it's called a conversational model of quantum hobble said let us write a story let us write an article together on the origins of life i have a new idea so we've been working on that meantime i'm trying to get the pope together with the eleven president of india evangelist for harvesting solar power in space and transmitting it down to earth and you think that's really important to the public i'm going to about that because the pope wants to get rid of all fossil fuels well this is the way to get back into sinai desert strong right yeah so this is not you and we've got to get that now to my t v wrap and that's your chompers and so if that's in the process the t v series so working its way up to working its way you've been busy in the interim with all this tactile stuff and everything you know never there's never whether we could inspect their military bases to see if they're developing any nuclear capabilities there so there we were promised basically anytime anywhere access we don't have it we don't have it there's applause and the contract  l way or whatever it's called the few dive deep into into it about three quarters of the way through it you see the inspection clause which doesn't mention really inspection you think and said well you think the people of the world have a right to be able to deal involves what's been called one of the most intense inspection regimes it's still the most dangerous thing you know the soviet union brian was danger better on is you know so i you are you  and hydrogen bomb well because you're about to have a guest on who we're going to talk about the iranian nuclear deal let me just tell you that the inspection clause doesn't really say what we've been told it says it says that if if  the rest of the world suspects that there is something nuclear going on and wants to examine a facility outside of this deal because this deal only covers three facilities we have to take that to the iranians the iranians are allowed to consider it for about constituency among the females and eleanor's the alpha male and he finally gets the alpha male position himself if he remains a bully he's out the females on who who support his p we're optimistic that maybe we're living through iran as well and it will all be that would be no it would have been clear would it necessarily mean that we're going to include all the so called enemies in order to have this situation is going to liberate humanity in a new liberating way at a can't believe how busy you are you keep it all up and you do eight hundred pushups a day i did a one thousand today and last week i did thirteen that's absurd i know answer and i turned seventy two years old you turned seventy go years old let that be a lesson to some young guys