mean i don't know what i can do she said well hold on so i gave it to her back and i said cause i don't want to disappoint you she said keep it do what you can do and that was so wonderful i was out to get him and i listened to it and what i could do was review it more on the website when you know i i wasn't sure what was going on but until i guess before high school i started singing i did a couple of talent shows and when i was when in first place like all the time yes i was like ok this ok yes your guy was a quarterback ok quarterback or throughout high school baseball shortstop basketball or a point guard all right so i was into that ok and you know the singing thing was just like more or less like you you're hardcore soul you know undeniable so you can you know not denounce that that man has paid right or woman has paid right some to some degree those artist resonated with me unlike you know any other artists you know you brian mcknight and the ones that are closer around where i am that you've sold shout i respect soldier respect max went down a little bit like both of them you still fairly well few people a few countries rather played a few songs off of that cd smile country or africa was one of the countries  switzerland and germany and france ok so they were they were playing it over there in i've done a few shows since the last time we met up probably been to paris about five times been in paris a lot since really because i know when i was trying to set appreciative of all of that but they show a lot more love and genuine love for my from my personal experience across the water so how do you get your gigs over there you have management agent well i'm you've got the training or the know how the wherewithal to do that probably experiencing of my experiences in this business in the city right in new york mainly you know the doors open close windows have shut have opened all these little experiences have have taught me to to have tougher skin in a sense yes and to take control of your your own destiny if i can do something let me learn how to do it you know because this guy is saying this that in a third and you know i don't want to waste nobody's time so i'll find out how to do it myself right so before we met i never knew how to run software protocols except for now i know how to run my own software so now i can record in my own the comfort of my own house and you know which wasn't like that before  but the experiences that i've had have got me to this position today and you should always pick up from those around you yeah you know with those people around you that know more than you know so that you can learn from them and then be a better partner with them right you know given your room to your own career you know as well as help them with some of these people don't don't want you to be partners with them and that's cool too so that's cool too so now you flip it and become a fly on the wall right you know let me get the information since we don't want to partner up with me i'll just gather what i can gather and then i'll just take it and then build over here and then help someone else that wants to be helped because that's where i come from yeah i think shows that you think you should be a part of for instance there was a show in omaha nebraska with thirteen should call luke chris sierra and tank and the guy was actually  the traveling man yes so they were playing that record out there and he reached out to me and thought it was a good idea as well as myself to be a part of that show and he negated a way that i could get there in the promoters  d they got me got me there put me up and allowed me to do my own original songs which was a blessing for me because that's all i want to do is just you know give the people you know what you  because the music was a little slower and you know i was so saturated in that that a friend of mine suggested that i submit some music to some of the productions downtown so i did that in the net lead into why don't you just do some background you know he some extra money you know something like so i did that in the first movie it's funny that you said that was an american gangster so i was a nine union actor but the of me is it's almost like a principal role in the film so when i saw myself on a screen i like go to look good let me do this also i'm just pleased i was alive if you like trainings workshop they do some work showers yes so you go down to the sag aftra office and do some some workshop stuff there so i decided to just do a little stuff just he does a lot of he's really bullshit he's really good and you see how they take one line and then the next actor picks up that man and the next and they just build upon improv yes you know and it really really helps and whatever else you want because you can you can jump off or what somebody says that's my next thing i think that's course oh yeah i have got to make time to do actually one we've always got to keep trying even if we made it in school even if we're you know heavily into acting more heavily into singing you still have to always be trained absolutely you moving on to the next question so now since you're acting now and this use this this do this question on both sides the dancing and acting how do you prepare for the concert how do you prepare for the acting role you know before it before you a giving thanks i'm giving praise and giving thanks for my position and it's a new day a bubble bath before she'll realize it is is is tough for me acting  probably because i am the most passionate about that then art wholeheartedly right like wholeheartedly i i possess the potential and to move a soul other than a mom with the music and for me that is it's it's a blessing i feel that music is a universal language you on there so it's a complete i am at the final stages of mixing that album in three weeks and the latter ok so i did the first half before i went to paris and i'm go i'm venus now i'm into this dispassion circuit yeah i see it in a lot with that i'm into this like i said i've been to paris twice this year already and i started to head over to egypt actually yesterday since i've been moving around not so much on the label but because other things have picked up this international stuff has picked up from your life the need to write a story about you where you're the senior who's into fashion engines follow your life how you go back and forth between things so who are your directors are out to you're listening to me so we need that show for blake and i need to be a part of it because it was my  who are your role models for acting  but yeah i love crazy commercials and that's one of them that was fun you know that was what i was finding i was hilarious so those guys i see isaac you didn't know and there are fewer a few other actors i laid eldridge's you know but yes i to blake moses as the title was funny venus again i'm in atlanta at my producers at his house and so you know these guys they get this a plethora of albums  all over the place all over all over all of us and so we're we're we're we're doing this project and we're doing the music and i see isaac a the album and i'm like that means me i can do the sound of it and the lyrics like it is really off limits really are tells a story and you're writing all the songs yeah yeah yes all right so now tell me what would you advise anyone who wants to sing write produce do what you do first of all you have to really actually self is it for you do you burn for it or not because someone else does it or you know love because your neighbor or whomever but do you feel it like do you genuinely feel it and not to be around a bunch of yes people you know like yes yes yes you know you really have to come into your own  gives you identity right you know gives you integrity you know when you're able to to patients self and be patient and that oversaturate and what you're doing it gives you it gives you a glow it gives you something y you know they don't get to go as far as they want to go they don't get to go as far as a park is can take them but you know it's it's there it's open for that person that's a believer in themselves a believer in faith a believer in and hope you know there's there's a path for that particular person a soul so god is there all in the be all and he has a plan for you know those plans i mean it's it's has been such a pleasure to talk to you again and get talking over and over again i need a longer show everybody says that they can we can do it longer show and i want you to come back all the time and tell me about your products such as your sellers how we can