spirituality and personal growth today like to welcome to new connection dr laura lynn mirages cardo who is a professor with more than thirty years of experience in counseling higher education and energy medicine she is the director of arise counseling and energetics as well as an adjunct professor at lewis and clark college portland community college and pacific university laurel and welcome to the connection thank you love to be here you know you have such a strong background in traditional counseling but at a certain point you began to integrate reiki and karuna reiki into your work why did you bring the two together well it became very obvious to me early on that when people come for therapy they're coming they're in pain or they want to help on some level and traditional therapies were wonderful it diagnosing and going back and looking at perhaps initial causes or where traumas or set of blockages are but we're not able necessarily to help them clear enough fast enough to move beyond that so perhaps you might  know the reasons why you're acting the way you're acting a why your life isn't working for you but that doesn't mean you can get to where you want to go easily so to be able to bring more of the whole person in more holistic body mind soul so that people then can move faster cleaner and get to where they want to go without spending so much time trying to slow their way through the past to get to where they want to go so then that's why i brought in reiki was a first platform piece that i brought in and it's a very simple beautiful wonderful method very easy for someone young children all the way up through elderly people who are even on their they're able to access reiki one to have sessions done and also learn because if you not only have the sessions done for you but you're able to step forward and get the training yourself how wonderful is that now you're really much more empowered in your life you have better tools to start navigating through your life as your work evolved over the years you create a program called arise energetics and quantum healing how does it work i've been able to layer in a few different models that people have been using but i layer them men in a different way within the model that i work with and horizon objects so for example one platform piece would be the hero's journey from joseph campbell which is a wonderful way to start having a person to step out of the idea that here's my story i'm a victim to these circumstances or my life is not working and i don't understand why so if we can start getting a fix on where they are that's the basic piece where are you in your inner landscape where are you in terms of your inner life where is your inner child how is that child working where is that child and where are you so if we look of campbell's there's a stages that i work with from birth through childhood to the quest time and then the death after the death come the underworld where most people actually come to see me the underworld is where you're lost you're wandering you're really not sure what's happening and how to make sense of where you are and where you want to get and then there's the rebirth period so wonderful for people to start seeing their life from a higher perspective that their story is sacred in the details of their story are really important but yet on the other hand hard for us to navigate within when you're under the story in a sense so to get a higher perspective and let's go a little bit higher do we need to get maybe into a helicopter fly over the scene a little bit if not if at the scene still looks too chaotic or destructive let's go hire get in a plane go thirty five thousand feet we need do a get into space shuttle we at some point the terrain of your life you'll start seeing the patterns you'll start seeing where it makes sense and then from there to be able to start moving forward so that's one place that we start and then the second part i like to bring in is the emotional set point or the emotional guide and scale and that's based on esther hicks and abraham their work which for counseling is pretty revolutionary because we as there appears and psychologists we honor emotions but we see them more as i would say maybe on horizontal feel that all emotions are important and should be honored what abraham hicks did  they gave us the scale that's a vertical scale from one to twenty two so to be able to see what is your vibrational setpoint when you read about whatever traction so many people do and it's such a wonderful way to look at your life but it's so subtle because it's not what you're thinking or what you're wanting it's really your vibrational what are you vibrating with your setpoint so i'm able to work with the person within a three step process three different set areas of their life so the first one i call is charting your path and so on here we're actually charting hearing a story or hearing a detail of your story and then charting that where are you resonating the most what are you feeling the most are you angry are you sad are you depressed are you frustrated where are you and that's really getting your fix getting your in a landscape that and then at some point when once you start understanding enough the dynamics of what's going on and why once you get that higher perspective it's almost feels like the click happens almost a visceral kind of a click and oh now i get it now things make more sense so that to me is a second process and that's holding the harmonics of change i call it where you're really moving up the scale and again you can go high and low but you're your main sense of resignation is really with in most of your life or many parts of your life are working but a few pieces aren't and you still aren't really understanding exactly how do i get what i want  make my life saying i have the third part is again a little click i see it and that's the level three it's a mastery refresh perspective where you're really holding very high understanding your vibrational set point is high you're really in there joy excitement co creator energies and then maybe something happens pop and you down not really understanding why did this happen out of the blue i don't understand so again just maybe coming for you fresh or for vital ization to be able to feel yourself nurture yourself a little bit because we don't do enough of that in our society so i am able to work with people on that level to find out where you are where you want to go and then how you're going to get there and that's what we do within this process what are the basic components of your personal growth model sure so the way i visualize it is a tube to  a donut shape and so if you're looking at the bottom of it that's where the inner landscape the inner child this hero's journey the vibrational setpoint so that's in a sense getting more of us of a soul level  where are you where are you on a number of levels so that's the first part and you talked about that like a soul g p s or i don't like that terminology where am i and yet i want to go exactly because you really need to know where that person is not just well i want to new job and i or i want a new relationship but really to get ok but where are you where are you in this field in a sense are you dealing with energies that you're stuck with are you not clear about where you want to go so it's almost getting that higher perspective that soul level perspective and information because it's a guided method and to be able to really help a person see themselves as a larger figure that working within the story that they are not under the specifics of the story so then the second part of it is more the part where we do the guided work so there's a guided counseling or intuitive counseling piece where we'll be sitting like this and but the way i'm hearing and witnessing your story is they say within the quantum and even the observer is changing what's happening so to be able to hear a little bit of your story it's not traditional counseling where you need to come and talk it goes very fast it goes very quickly through this because you're really just getting some of the details getting the facts of where you are seeing where the stock energies are and then how can we help you release them so that's the other part of the energetics so i would say the guided counseling is one of the layers that we come in under and then we go into perhaps reiki karuna reiki which is magnificent energy that is enhanced i would say it's an enhanced version of reiki where you're starting to bring in sound and cellular healing and working within this quantum field in a sense to really  work directly with what do you need for example there's a beautiful the sacred geometry figures that are in here for say heart energy or for knowledge but then it can go in differently into your field as information is heart knowledge so heart knowledge would be different than knowledge just coming in or heart coming in imagine if you could a bath and then you're putting in maybe a lavender salt so you're putting that with in a very theoric bath for a person and singing singing it and also bringing in the energetic glyphs and then on top of the current reiki i have on language of light which again is another enhanced version of the  reiki where sometimes personal symbols will come and or more universal symbols will come in for that person can you share from them because some people might not be familiar with it how does ricky enhance what you're doing with the traditional counseling  reiki really empowers the person to step forward and to really almost foreground background i call it so if you can think of those optical images where you look at a paper and  is it a bunny here is it a rabbit well if you look at it you know so it's the foreground the background what are we focusing upon so if you're focusing the focusing that i cannot make my life work and this happened to me and that happened to be and yes your life isn't working and some of it is out of your control or has been out of your control and yet your the prayer that i hold for people who come to work with me is that you are a magnificent and a powerful eternal being of light who has created on a soul level this particular earth walk and i honor your free will choices and so that is in a sense the prayer of the intent that i hold as i hear the stories so that they can come up and out of reiki is a magnificent very accessible tool for someone because we're teaching i teach reiki so your be able to work with mental an emotional healing in balance you'll be able to send the distance and then symbols send healing back to yourself or to your future self and so you're back and forth through time and space for yourself or for others and integrity or for the world you want to do something for the world you're sitting home you don't know what you can do well reiki will give you the tools to immediately become a light worker and start working and doing something doing some of the work that you feel you want to do rather than feel like i can't do anything so it seems like you are helping someone not just discuss or talk about their problems but really take it to a different level of pulling in energy and so it sounds like you're not just alone you know with your problems that you're taking greater energy to help heal them with the and the spectrum healing it's well the spectrum is another layer again on top of lateral with the language of light that i teach so i do all of these sessions but i also teach people all of this work as well so they can do it a spectrum is chocker based and you're really going in for a different issue or concern and that was based traditionally upon this wonderful healer her name is julie she does integrated that the killing and i studied with her many years ago and the spectrum energetics works on that platform karuna reiki language of light and then the work that's done with me there's a war aims there a few magnifica energies so it's a wonderfully guided method very light very light filled very beautiful method where we will get again here is the multidimensional pieces will get metaphors will get will get pictures of what's going on and then the person whose work is guided to work with those images so if you're working on for example an inner child where i feel a lost and alone and abandoned well we get in there we can ask to see where your child is and what is she doing and or he doing and then is are they in a little playhouse or are they locked up somehow are they hiding are they playing peek a boo some of them are feeling abandoned one person it was a beautiful story of a sixty five year old woman and it was a chest and it wasn't locked but it was closed and i asked her to go home and if she won when she was ready to open up and see what was inside that chest and around the chest was many there were many j in all kinds of bracelets and rings just thrown in a jumble and she did go home and she came back the next time and said i open the chest and you're not going to believe what with them there and i said what so it was a little girl who was that and i said who do you think it was and could it have been me but now let's see in a guided way i could think of what to do with her she could think but if we can just listen for a moment to see within her whole soul perspective honoring her soul energy and the gods that are with us what to do at least let's figure out and maybe help her bring her some ways to organize her jewels and her resources because this woman felt like she had no resources left her husband divorced her and she felt pretty bereft yet she did have a lot of resources because we could see it in her field so maybe play with the little girl and let her put put on the two hours see which ones are her favorite clean the room up a little bit and so by doing that i'm not only is it in a work but her out of work or our life shifted immediately and that happened within a week and she actually which was even more amazing to me and this is the quantum field her ex husband who lives in alaska during that week that she did that work wrote her a letter and she never spoke to him or anyone but he wrote her a letter and apologized for basically stealing all of their lives day things so that is always the surprise in the magic when you work within this quantum field what sort of quantum healing did you use karuna reiki to some other energy medicine to help her through that integration of her inner child well that was a spectrum so yes i did the gu into her self and then as she started seeing how the reality was how what we were doing was changing her actual life she really became much more empowered and much happier and was able to step forward and  get in wonderful relationship for herself and start moving and in a sense also not being so angry and bitter towards her ex husband because that was holding her back as well hard for her to move forward if you're bringing a lot of baggage with you but again traditional counseling that we've taken a long time when you're in the quantum there is no time really necessarily element and as you see there's no space element because somebody who really wasn't connected to us at all was able to feel a shift and change in her and then immediately respond and it was nice of him to let her know when that happens often it's really beautiful and then from there of course so that's the whole second level where i have these methods the counseling or the reiki and the qur'an and the language of light in the spectrum and then the third part is then getting to this which i see it as doorways in for the field of infinite doorways or infinite potentiality and then where do you want to go and what doorways do we go through it sounds like you show people a wider perspective for their life so what sort of transformation have you seen when people realize that their world comes from a bigger place well that's the exciting part because so much of the time people feel  or they're not even exactly clear what do i then want so if you can release your anger and you feel relieved of course and then you're not so afraid that there's not going to be a life ahead of me for me i don't know what i can do so if we start healing some of that and in visioning so then really what is it that you do want and then how are you to open up which possible doorway to get through so if we work again with the quantum we're looking at parallel realities or we're working with beyond time and space so where do you want to go maybe a few months from now a year or two from now and then what doorways in a sense will you again that we're going back to the vibration setpoint what doorways are aligning for you what are you seeing and are you standing in banging at one particular door and it's not opening so in one sense it's interesting because many people come most people come for traditional counseling down at the story level there are now i'm noticing many more people coming to me at this top level where they've done a lot of work on themselves they have many different methods that they can use they read a lot of those wonderful work that's here now to really help all of us but they're not sure i still don't know how to make my life work and why isn't this doorway opening i want to be a healer i want to be someone who i want to make money or i want to have my health i want to have a relationship and i'm doing everything i should do but they're still not opening these doors are opening so again to be in humility and to be in the moment with that person and to honor where they are well perhaps they're really a little untethered from three d reality in a sense and they're standing within this field of i can do everything i know i can do anything and everything and but i don't know how to do it and it's not working so want to send in that sense interestingly enough we would need to go back down in that use these methods to kind of bring them back down into the story into their the three d into their reality and really anchor them into their life i work a lot with people for example crit counseling i do a lot of career work with people well i can be anything and i can do everything that i want and if i can i want to be a film director decision woman last week and if i can't do that then i don't want to even be on this planet and i know i have the strength and skills and i have a vision and i have so much and i know so much and it's so important in the universe just open to me but yet by working with her a little bit for her to see where her core belief system is one of lack and abandonment and fear and she has no resources at the moment for herself so she's being victimized by people in the industry so to be able to again then help her and ground in to her three d i call being in your biology you need to be in your biology and then reach up and out you know think of a tree so you're needing to have your roots in but then you're opening your canopy up the into the field of potential so do you want to walk through this doorway well if you do want this particular career no matter what and if the cost are you willing to pay what that cost is and she said no well then can we look at another doorway and let's look at another door and we i hope you get a career where you can anchor in and make some money get some resources and then from there another door we will open up behind that and get you in that way so we're looking at what doorways are available and what can you work with and she said oh i don't really want to career either well how about then you know so you're looking on an energetic level what do always available what are your strengths and skills and how can i help you get there so that's what i feel the easiest part to understand is where are you what do you want and how can we get you there and by using these methods they're so guided by very high level guidance that will help you on any number of ways and it's a very unique way that i work with people there's not a one size fits all  really depending upon each individual person then at that moment to just wait and just see what's the message from their soul level can we get up high enough dialogue with their souls their masters their teachers their guides their loved ones of  well of those who align with these methods and so sense of good coming from that wider perspective what sort of transformation do you see in people when they suddenly realise there's a wider world of resources they can pull from so much joy i mean really the sense that to me it's a razor's edge path that we are learning how to walk where we're not being crushed by our story high or life circumstances our past our limitations but on the other hand we're not just feeling that i can just dream what i want just go get it and things will just align however if they don't something's wrong with me or something's wrong with the method it's  really a path that it's like a left at left or right in a sense it's in breath like all the in breath outbreath so where you're surrendering and just listening but then also you're putting your intent you're putting your focus direction and you're saying you know this is what i want you know i'm asking for guidance and help and let me see how i get there and then again taking that breath what do i need what do i need to move and then moving forward again i'm so much of the time we were stuck in the past or stuck and i want i want i want i want but then what do you really want what is it that you really do want and that's hard for most people just want to be happy or they want to make a difference they want to feel their life has meaning or purpose and that last part is so magnificent which is if once you start healing yourself and this is the most important part of thing to your question once you give yourself which is wonderful but then you're also setting healings because you're within this quantum you're setting healings up your d n a along up and down your d n a line some people have said once you become enlightened your goal is seven generations up and down how interesting to think that you're setting up and you're sitting down within your field so say if you've come from abuse issues or you're setting you're sending healing up seven generations of abuse that has happened within your family line and down through your children and children's children so that you've stopped it but then because of the greater around the earth you're also now sending markers putting markers out for others to grab and to hold and to reach and to get that healing so even if you are just sitting in your home alone and you're doing this work you're working it for yourself you're working up and down your d n a d n a line and then you're also sending to the grid you're also sending to others maybe a woman a young woman on the other side of the world will be able to in a sense feel your marker feel your release and hold and grab on to that as well so it's really interconnectedness that we're doing tremendous work us next time a new connection where you can tune in and grow