opportunity they factor there in transfer to the university of maryland where i was on the plane for well test take so now take us through the process when you were in high school how did you go about finding the schools was  freshman year of high school was a senior high school how did it all begin well unfortunately for me i didn't think that there were an avenue where someone could help or kind of guide me through the way so you know back in the late eighty's it was all word of mouth or some recommending you to someone so every opportunity i got soccer which i assume has a pretty good packer player in high school and were really just visions of the opportunity and it was all said and done and came terroristic so now when you're at university of maryland what are some of the classes that you start taking that you're starting to think well you know i'm going to need some of this stuff for when i graduate what do you school based on what you want your degree to be based on things that interest you and that they can support at the school and so for me i ended up going the criminal justice route which i actually didn't really utilize for anything but a platform to go back and get my teaching what i do now so now tell me a little bit about the football team while you were there with a good not so good we're probably better we should been better than what we where we are it just changed bobby ross and just left georgia man in with the players you know did a really good job and we're competitive but you know when you look at where we were and how we finished up in the talent level that  did you see any of that when you were at college is that anything not you know what it in any school because i coached in college football for a lot of years as well is what you do it you know you get tools at any school  if it was harbor or any other school if i don't take advantage of what the university is offering me to help me not only be a great student athlete but the key part there if i'm going to great and i'm not going to hang around in you know there's study halls  tutoring in when parents go on tours with their kids and same with the students they think ninety nine percent of professional something else and they say for reasons it's true and so if a with understand that and when they're looking into university study hall whether it be tutors whether it be after sessions with the teachers or the t a's you know students in and adults need to realize that and that and capitalize is what you're doing is really meet or college or the friends for your life do you still keep in contact with a lot of those people that are on your football team yet you know what we have a reunion one year in thirty we all get together one of our human injured in the professional wrestling  every year we try to get together down there and you do keep in touch and based on what you go through while you start working with others and it all kind of those are the times of the year that i'm in your life that really come in aren't fortunate and i wasn't great by any stretch of imagination but i was fortunate that parent that worked hard put away money it whatever they could give me the opportunity that everybody has a thing in so when you start to have that come from maybe you know inner city or title one school district where they may not get the same education that i received or someone who may not be fortunate to have parents that are willing  or do not have the ability to network or reach out who are connect with as many possible coaches out there to let them know that you know great great you know him and great i'm described above three point  you know you're just a very good athlete there's a lot of schools out there specially when you go away from the all in the back of that me through now please and they don't have the recruiting budget to go on so you know i thought in our conversation it was going to be a great know we built a really strong relationship where we started with one or two thousand athletes and kind of show them how instead of just giving a thousand dollars scholarship or a two thousand dollars scholarship away and that's fantastic any really coming from are my daughter wasn't in school and she should actually be going into her senior year this year is actually pretty exciting and you know i'm excited for i'm glad we were able to play a part in her getting th the foundation of what we've been doing in right now the way that up is if it's soon after he comes from a title one district school in or you know in a financially challenging situation at level into these programs this year but this program so kind of time i think i answered yeah absolutely so give me a little bit of background on your coaching career because there are a lot of students out there that you know some want to go to college and that's what they want to do if the college is actually coach how do they get into something like that you know i think it is a great profession it's a challenging profession a profession but i still love player to coach twenty years ago and just hey how you benefit think about so is the relationship you get to build you know what i would recommend if someone is interested in going into coaching in they have a plan go ahead and  remain in the college level or national level it's really about networking talking to people and understanding what they want so you know my career path that i played in maryland when i was finished their local high school that i went to  professional from there and i worked my way through got my teaching degree because i went back to going to poaching arena football did that for a lot of years before i worked with the new york giants if i can do more than just teach i can bring more than just like going to college interesting and then when you're in when you're in college how about how about when you're going through the football practices and things  what are they like at the college level for a lot of these students that want to play sports at the college level is it really time consuming you know practice in the games absolutely i think opportunity to do so and what do you see is what do you see as the differences between college and the pros are college and the canadian college in the arena football league do you see a lot of differences you know what it's just like the filter you know me i've seen my fair share of not just being that is being smart in understanding and understanding i said doing the right thing as a coach my theory was always i only have room for one person to hold their hand don't want to deal with as a college coach i don't want to deal with that there's not enough time that they need and do my job and be successful with people i have that argument character you know i'll take really just like time management that a lot of these athletes need they need to focus on their their life skills as well you know it's a combination of time management is such a huge part of grunt i mean you know i've had that conversation a million times if we had better time management building but i would have to have the conversation but you know the reality is if you can have time management is going to help your life in what you have the other thing i think is important is creating a list of priorities in priorities change as you as you go through life but if you have your priority and you have it makes the easier for your time management role if i know getting a certain project done is the most important because it allows my career to move forward and that's going to be my focus  where we may be going is it scary because that seems to be the missing ingredient in you know and i'm not naive enough to think we sprinkle hope everywhere and everybody everybody can biography i mean him dancing in circle you know but what we do to be able to alter or give someone a path that they may be able to capitalize and have that and then go back to their neighborhood or their it to be able here and so that's what we're trying to do if we can continue to build out and help the student athlete and you know every year in creating it we get more and more funding you know you can see where we're going to advice you want to give to the parents out there that is sons or daughters looking into maybe applying for the foundation maybe wanting to go to college to play a sport what advice do you want to give those parents it would only suggest if you're interested in foundation they are either word go online either you know contact us through there or by we have a ability to contact the email there if you're interested in making a donation you know same thing please get in touch with us we'd love to be able to work with other companies as well as a parent whether it's through the foundation for yourself going through the recruiting process a