i'm in the limelight for so long now because the game is changing in the so many so much content out there and so obsessive all i feel like the younger generation is kind of not it's kind of letting these actors go i mean that's what i feel i very interested in what we're talking obviously we're going to be talking about your craft your work your profession but we're talking behind the camera a little bit about the business and what's happening out there it seems like there's a lot of options and times are like movie  just shifted the mark to market this shift that completely one point to belong to the studios in the studios were making things and then they started giving money to these directors to just do experiments and that's where all these actors like harvey keitel came from riaa like a writer and all these movies and i think what's happening now because the technology of these cameras has gotten so excessive war and you can buy a camera for not that much money you can go out and by all this continents the difficult thing now is to try to break through that right so so in a way the bar is raising but it's giving everybody the tools to go out and shoot a film so you know if you watch like the shorts from the me i'm not going to put a movie i'm just going but channels and i'm going to be a regular viewer and become a regular viewer maybe if i can and i just stay there and i let say i just leave it on n b c or leave it on there's a show there who will go but there's like a rhythm to these shows that they just think that the public wants and god forbid the you have a thought as an actor on camera they're just going to cut it out and it's going to be a line lie lie lie lie li certain comedies on television it's like i don't know if you said problem that obviously is about ratings in numbers and you got to pay the bills and big networks but there's it's no it's like to me p b s is one of the this is when it will this is worth watching and i hate to say it because i'm a nobody to them i was just aiming but it's something the the grub's you and having all the opportunities for actors you're an artist you're out there you work a lot you're gifted and talented certainly you you know you know what you're doing how do we how do we actors or entertainers or writers how do we break in why it's so hard to get a let's say what are the call of break mean i've been to i've seen i've seen i haven't seen or i've seen pieces here and i know when there's a promise to give an example and i'm never seen as a promise i know that i had to get it and sit down one day i'm seeing the affair and showtime with dominic west and in ruth wilson the st memory i think i was obsessed with film from a very very young age but i'm going to be eight years old when i was young actually before this my mom used to send me out on commercials my mom is an actress or was an actress and growing up she says to commercial auditions and things are done i remember one time my sister didn't want to come with me to some audition yeah and i put up a  fit you know we ended up going but i had a miserable time for whatever reason because i wanted to come and then she stopped she stopped putting me you know putting me out there not until i was eight years old was that i realize this is what i want to something like no what i want to be is an actor because i would like to experience all these things somehow yeah yeah but you have that you have obviously the talent in the gift just the craft and acting is its subjective matter some people say well great actors are great actors everywhere you know when people say it was a great actors and obviously respected by everyone but acting is it's a gift it's a business and this is a hard thing to approach right way like i'm not saying to open up about how you bring the characters to life and how how does it work for you but do you like to keep diaries do you like to keep notes so you find yourself hate you ready they hate you you you could read a page of it or two pages of it and for some reason i mean with me it's this weird thing that i but i have where it's whatever it is that i'm going through in life for some reason i seem to seem to attract those things you know without acting like the scripts would just materialize out of nowhere and be like here you just broke up with somebody here's a script about a breakup you know right here so i do have got going for me or maybe that's just how i relate to things but there are things sometimes it requires a little more focus and more attention and sometimes it is a technicality you know and it's but i think the balances you know you  have to find the way so to relate to the material in order for it to function but you know without so there is things that you read there are things that i read that i'm like yeah i just can't this is not anywhere near where i am  to you have to find your you have to really sort of the character you have to see yourself in what one of the similarities between you and the character and i think that's always you know the thing with with that reactor  about are finding the things that you know that the fears and the joys or whatever right right i think is like when you read something is good to get that impression and you know that i got to do this i want to do this but obviously when you see a lot of work you develop a sense right where you also have a taste and you have a hand in saying you know without said there are things that we have to do for money unfortunately but yes but you know you find a way in and you find what's interesting or how to make it interesting and i think that's the that's you know as a musician and a friend of mine once told me about you know like you're playing the same song over and over again and sometimes you're like you know he was like find a way for you to make it interesting like how are you going to connect to this in a way that's going to keep you alive and i think with parts you know if you read a script that you're not necessarily a big fan of but it's you had it so it's a job that you absolutely need right because as we know now all the  st you know thirty five pages yeah you're going to have issues but a strong ending usually you know strong characters in a strong and now do you consider yourself a method actor a but it's like you see what do you see a method actor if you're a method actor you know obviously you look at the method you love straws where you look the entire school of the actor's studio in the entire russian acting school above acting so some actors obviously a lot of actors they consider themselves method because they go deep in the work deep deep calling to deep you know so much to say they're rather not call themselves mad enough to they don't they don't they don't work that way and i don't you there lou is it they said he's you do you consider yourself a method actor you go by your instincts are you open in that end i think you know i think the penny on the work and how easily it comes to you i think that's always the thing where i like you know is it going to serve a purpose if you have to do a friend shocks and you know to do something that you normally wouldn't feel you know as the opposite of your in sings then i think it helps to stay in  know and we have i think that you can take on any point of view you choose with some effort you know and work and eventually that will be how you feel about certain things and you you i think certain jobs you don't have time to do that and for others you do not sense yes i you know have you rely on a method and i think but you know there's other parts that don't necessarily require you to do all that you know and sometimes i think it's you know i think whatever's going to help the actors is is the best thing whatever's going to help the person writing things but i think for me i would probably say that i  very very gifted actor and you don't seem to take yourself it seems to me and correct me if i'm mistaken i'm thinking out loud no no no you're not you don't take yourself seriously but you take very seriously what you do ye try to go deeper always make it better always more honest always you know how of something to work on to make it more real more grounded i mean that's always the goal you keep journals you keep notes so what you do during the rehearsa filming well sometimes i know i know you for me like music that but but i've backed away a little bit from music in that regard i think acting is kind of taken warm in the forefront of that but but no i like you know what it is it's i don't like to think of anything is precious you just give it your all in the moment so yeah so journos i mean it's not really the same thing but everything was every paper that was on top of my dresser was from the time period everything that you touch was you would open a drawer and there were things inside the door from that time period so so much love and attention to detail had already gone into it that you know it's difficult to i think to feel when you when you already have that appreciation for things and then also may god know me go since i was a kid and he's always been very tenacious and very focused and and he doesn't stop until it's as one hundred thousand percent is perfect is as it can be or or as close to life so he yeah we would go and we would shoot and we would sometimes he's not sure but it's not he's not stubborn about it or you know he's just like ok let's try this or try whatever you want to try or what about doing this or so there was a lot of a lot of that which makes you got to see it because you need to allow it to do while you do it wrong it's a learning process right yeah i mean i but i guess because i also directed as a filmmaker i'm more on the select i like to watch playback you know sometimes you you you have an experience and sometimes it's not exactly what would you experienced you know like i've had these situations robin like really embarrassed or something happened in the scene where i felt like and you look in and you're like you know it's not necessarily what your experience was of it so i think it helps to see and sometimes detail sometimes we you know we were talking about this earlier about you know you work on y what i was saying if you spend a month rewiring your brain every little you do is going to be no like you can go on the set and you're there and you're not going to you're not going to miss a thing because you had a month to work on it sometimes you're not given them an yet in the exam but hey it's like i have my work years and i don't even been to have the things that i have written down but it's like what you said is like that the process is very needed because obviously we need results and people like to see results that's way more interesting to me even than somebody like trying to be angry or pushing for something that's really not not there you know the dialogue will get you really far along the way all that's required for desire in you know he was a he was a man he like to take notes and he was good with actors like he was a lot of time he was the best director for actors actors rector but it was very interested in you know i said when you know when when you do working with great actors not so great you know a man and you know of a director who is really no you don't feel safe with them you know they'll go on they'll cut something that's not that you're not going to be proud of you know and not can be scary that's happened to me and that was a very  creative director or the acting coach or the mentor whoever you have to have been environment that you are willing to create and willing to fall and willing to make mistakes because everybody wants to look good right obviously when you're from the camera  great director surround himself with the times that cinematographer talent and sound person a talented crew and you haven't seen actors and lets everybody do their job and it's just you know it's his job to oversee the entire project know there are so many great actors that i have the privilege to know whether i go to the studio when i go to class when i go to i know one lot of great people but i'm not talking about the people that i know they're devoted to that to the crowd of people th she's harsh man and she you know i feel like she has her previous and that's it whereas you know i can watch an actor give give you know many actors give good performances and and deliver and then on the other you know like everybody it's it's not it's not you know we like to be we try to be as consistent as possible that's always the goal and you always want to you know but i think it's difficult you know that's that's the who walking a tight rope yeah i mean without making any like i said whoever makes a big they had the greatest respect we know tough it is it is so them hard to get a break it's so damn hard for actors to be noted for writers to be noticed when you see shift people i mean i see it this is new york that is talent everywhere it you kind of wonder why it's so hard to get in and why it's so hard for actors for a real artist to be to have a job like a regular job acting gig that is always there paying the bills want to do it every is you know she's been working hard working hard working hard and she's a genocide yeah you know she's flying up there yeah but it's interesting what you're saying because it's like you know it's not that it is it's not about putting and on one side and had a beer on the name and on the other side it was just an ass of a girl in a bikini you know and i thought this is this is hilarious because this is the best that they could come up with this like this sat around a table and they were like this is how did we look at all these things you know like you watch like these these really beautiful women with like thousands and thousands and thousands of followers and insecure men are obsessed with a certain