good afternoon welcome to thirty frames a nd i mean host glassner we have a great show for you today so let's get that it will be right back there really are folks on the left that believe the u s discourse on some level we believe the rhetoric of human rights crises and concerns about democracy and so it's a moderated approach right we want light intervention we don't want full on military intervention but yes something should be done some kind of sanction and some kind of intervention as dialogue and that is our left that is the u s exceptionalism that permeates our laughed which is really present now because we think we're the only country that's ever dealt with fascism because it's our fascist moment and it's all new and so it's the only crisis in the world and at that point you began to hear we don't have an organizations we can't focus on international work everything's domestic front all hands on deck as though these were disconnected realities as though we couldn't learn from other sisters and brothers abroad who've been dealing with fascism finance supported funded by the u s for decades and the lack of anti imperialist approach and analysis and our work here  allows for these exceptions of the u s that part that say well i mean we see that we teach at john jay all of my students are immigrants or children and immigrants most of them want to work for long foresman there's this idea that we  yes there's exceptions the u s does good work great we intervene only when we're concerned among democracy or human rights and we have to call that a hoax that cannot be allowed at all so when we're having these conversations of folks who are reflecting on what to do about menaced by law you have one position no intervention no sanctions no and which is economic intervention right no intervention period the same way that there's this outrage at the idea that russia interfered in our elections we have interfered in elections around the world i mean that is official government policy is to interfere and elections we're doing that right now rubio from the senate floor are promising the military minutes whether they will release humanitarian aid i e we will fund you if you were a battle against your like the president so we have to really you know and it's hard i know because we are bombarded with that message all the time even on the left and it's really immigrant communities with connections to policies that have either driven forced migration or that we continue to see the impact of u s imperialism abroad that are trying to do your want to try to think of ways well what is our role here living in pire and i think what's useful for me is not only constant not only having an anti racist anti oppressive framework anti capitalist farmer because imperialism is built on capitalism sustain my capitalism and promotes capitalism but anti imperialism and all of our work that includes domestically right so that i mean the anti imperialist framework means we're talking about you know development in east harlem we're talking about settler colonialism we're talking about massive display is that gentrification displacement of communities the same way that us empire has done and using that framework to think about well what does it mean when we have displaced communities and a restructuring of society a restructuring of well  the hoarding of well the lack of distribution or redistribution of wealth who benefits from that who's coming in and taking land and resources with talent whatever that is an anti imperialist framework that allows us to think about our own organizing here and who are we after capital power what is the source of that power who are we challenging with that and recognizing that there isn't any distinction between when we talk about what's happening abroad in our name and carving that out and saying we were fused to be complicit by what our government does in our name with our money we reject that exclusively and how they're finding that here as well to displace and target our communities and that the policies that we talk about war on terror and border security are the exact same policies here just means that the government our government is creating the legal justification to not just you know spy on the same people here to issue surveillance going to you know i'm sure of you cohen's of many black communities they'll say yeah we are under occupation right is not a lot of difference here between you know  palestine or the other thing that i would say about what we can do is every single struggle needs to centerport as part of its struggle am palestine right we cannot talk about  that are underdeveloped than there is that the solution is if you don't want your community to be gentrified then you've got to do something in your community for yourself that you know i'm not i'm not for or against gentrification but it's a community that's been sitting there for you to look at is spanish harlem spanish harlem yes the barrio whatever but it hasn't moved and the people that live there has not done anything for it to move you've got to have progress you've got to you have to have progress somewhere along the line and if you look at what you are in now is because you to fight what happened what we need to do you need to take care  i spoke of weaponry lethal weaponry i spoke of being in control of economics but the one the most subtle and aspect of all history social studies and i'm when into school now when i went into the school i was already smart as hell because my parents taught me i mean our ready going in to school i knew how to read write count allen super smart simply talented people right so competing in school was not nearly as difficult as competing with them right now if it was it was relaxed when you went to school because that you were right when you're at home with them you had to be on your toes and not only dead they were they were masses of math they were masters of the arts they i mean masses of music of literary and what i love dylan was school because school didn't afford me any opportunity to do those things or school was only a requirement by the state that you had to go and i hated school i want to have the school i hated writing well you know there's a thing you know  grew up like it was abusive being it being from a military background that we had to learn we never lived on base when we lived abroad we lived on the economy rank so we could get to learn culture rank and my parents always taught us st our own called right rank and how to deal with other cultures so when i keep back to america and i was one or two grades i had of america right right right and that's what we need to get back to as a community as a family we need to take charge of our own children and teach our own children but that how do we do that i'm not going to use a one parent household but you can't do that because my dad  are in a constant state of war and until we understand that that we are in a state of war we cannot advance as a people when i say asked a constant state of war i mean i mean white supremacy is adversarial to non white people as especially black people right exactly on the rules are are completely different years in jail that is that is war against you right so until we understand what is coming ahead of us and how to cope with it we really cannot but if you if you don't understand why going to abide by the rules correct but we're going to take your own community read that's what we have to go back to do we do understand that if you read because we say if we have to go we have to come back as a unity but but then again that's another white supremacy trick to play on black and brown kids focus on meat letting you have money giving you money you being collected money it forget about your culture i'm not an key to to combat white supremacy all over the world is the african american right venezuela is at a disadvantage because white supremacy comes to their it just took over their country but that's but that's the nature of colonization right but it could come to your hood and you said it all right but that's the thing with venezuela didn't need anything from the united states now didn't even albinus where they were on  foreign countries and when they come to america they gotta go through immigration right we go they just leave puerto rico come the go bag need any day night that they're american right but because they're american because they're american pose the question and i was talking to the store who is a young young woman who's from rwanda right and the person who the story was about who is also from rwanda gotten over colonization i said what what prospects do you see for the ability of the people of rwanda the african people in rwanda the were but the common as mine felt the need to answer for two people who are qualified to have an opinion that i was originally speak it's more over over her interests were more of a white supremacy cause that was taught to her power structure is not why folks had all the money before mandela got all the money man after me there are two different completely different worlds in south africa the paul blacks and the jump in answering my question but that the question was it addressed to her in all of the things that were am place for this this confrontation this conflict are still genitally the ruling class was a small minority and the people who of who are or were under the yoke of oppression the hutus which was actually a whole bunch of different see you look at people like oprah winfrey you look at people like steve harvey you look at people in that it don't black people it that tyler perry they they knew what the struggle was but they've been need to be better than in the other ones oh i'm i know i don't specifically go through that aspect of it but i go through a lot of stuff is trying to put together a proposal if you were on public assistance and live in public housing it's easier way to deportees you but this is the this is the thing this goes back to what we were talking about at the inception we're talking about you have a different way of looking at things you know you could see some parts of africa as a shit hole countries but to you go to see how these people might you know because because his sons go home or they're all the this was on a saturday afternoon at three or four o'clock in the after no we didn't have any speakers we had a radio right we put on the table this was a three o'clock on a saturday afternoon now both of these women were vetted to the community and are not in the community because one of the guess they can to the party was ave diablos mother right right i think i'm the you know that there's a difference between you and them that's exactly right real quick we're going to talk about this talk about the priest to three year old eighty three year old priest who was convicted of