using music can you talk about how music unfolds we know everybody's kind of going crazy about how to help young people and how to rebuild communities that has fallen now could you just tell us like give us some examples of some some of the great things that i did earlier was working with the youth and getting them into a jazz weekend we had a saturday weekend at the salvation army and these youngsters came from all over momma county really building their skills and we worked with them we had professional musicians coming in and mentoring each one of the youngsters and  we broke for lunch and then came back in rehearsal more and then gave a concert in the evening it brought people close together the youngsters begin to  very well the bringing the community exist gether to is having the youngsters come out in play in the community a lot of the nursing homes and in the senior centers  also on the in the parks that we used to have the villages we saw the play out there and then the youngs used to come out and dance and enjoy the music but they were you know into the music at that time because there were so many youngsters who really wanted to participate and it sort of brings the adults in to support them and that's the major thing that you need that support from the community and from the parents to make sure that the youngsters you know take advantage of these opportunities there's a lot of funds out there for youngsters to to get free music get for free lessons g free instruments all of that there's an opportunity that somebody is out there has to pull that together and that helps them you know a community growth was this only for just playing jazz jazz this is strictly for jazz that we were doing for the for that six years at the salvation army but in growing up we learned a lot of music from the communities at the westside community  the traditional marches john philip sousa and all of the other writers of the day and so it it really brought the youngsters out of the parish is a drop us off leave us there for two or three hours what we do is we mentor other youngsters that come in from their private teachers and they play with the professional musicians on those particular events and we do that all summer long and they do about fo concerts in each particular town so i have a few questions the first one is how do you get the word out to get the young people into the program how you know how they recruit if you have them recruited through we have a website and that's part musical foundation is working with youngsters in the community they also working with the with the charter schools because the charter schools don't have music programs doing today there and they are generally after school or before school programs so they have being accredited with a lot of activities and free music and free instruments and support for the youngsters musical foundation and they will you know support them and try to give them a musical instruments that i know they have some instruments now but recently they've been given guitars and  of that so they do have people that are really trying to do a lot of things in asbury park so they really learn something about the business which is what we talk now nasa says yeah i saw one about what about young people that have no kind of affinity or other right and no she didn't she had a of of broadway show that ran for years mom i want to sing her her particular thing is gospel so i know she has a program in new york i don't know was i don't remember what it's called where she recru doing we know that music can bring people back to life again revitalize community absolutely absolutely that there's so many opportunities but you know really has to be supported by the families and the parents have to really go out there youngsters sitting around they don't have things to do all day they don't have a desire they need to be exposed to the music so that they can turn the morning whether they're going to sang or whether they're going to dance or whether they're go hip hop whether they're going to perform as as an actor or something like that but those kind of opportunities are out there for youngsters but they have to be supported inspired to go so you think they can be inspired to pads and you know they're not getting that exposure they're not getting that contact between the professionals and the audience so they need to go and see and see some live performances  exposed to that whether it's operable and blues whether it's jazz or whether it's class ago but get to a performance so they can see a live performance and so they're just sitting home listening to the about you know before a lot of the live performances the cost has gotten prohibitive for you know a lot of people so kind of keeps the kids out so it's an alternative to that right well what happens a lot of communities have little programs in the summer time ok that gets to get the youngsters involved and they can they can join in with professionals or or they can start their own little groups in the in the communities and that way they'll get a chance to see some live performances and also the participate with that so but if they have talent this is the time to use it while you're young and then let it   and a lot of youngsters don't have that opportunity a lot of churches are doing a lot of gospel things of the sort and the youngsters that doing the old doo wop things that good but it's just fun you know going back to using some of the masses and understanding all of the things that they have to go through and that's a lot that they have to go through learning and participating in traveling big on teaching history when so you are there to form an educator in everything how you know what could be how could that be done because if it's not taught in the schools and you know that when all these artists went through and everything or even because now you just see the success you will see what happens when you see bill gates is a billionaire but you don't see what bill gates had to do to get there you know guys if you look package you see all these people there are very rich but you don't hear the stories about how they had to get there i was worried about john johnson started evony  jet magazine he started with the gender thing anyway but he was talking about how he had a little office little tiny office and at that time bill collectors would come to your door and knock on the door and he says he's a stay in his office building late at night what you have any ideas how can young people need to hear that i don't even know if you don't just wake up and you know you now it's just like well you know i have an instrument repair business and i started out by going to a music store  looking at the instruments and helping the man in the store learning how the instruments operate and so for and then from there i went to the to a school and learned how to repair the instruments still not making a whole lot of money and then after a really got myself together and learn the craft well then i was able to go out on my own and start doing instrument repair for myself and for my business and so it takes time i do a lot of schools are a lot of colleges repairing instruments but it takes a long time to learn the tree and learn what to do and learn of the different facets of the instruments and it's the same thing in life if you want to do something you really have to start young and then make sure you grab gather the information that you need to be successful in presenting your particular concern in the field that you want to go into so it does take time and it takes study and it takes a real diligent person to do that you want to be fathers raising their children to and then it becomes an issue of time and finances and everything and i know for single parent i was a single parent you have to make sacrifices all been above the call of duty you know in because you don't have the other parent to balance it out where you have really have to just focus on your kids make sure that they come out ok do the best you can is not guarantee and i know a lot of school teachers complain that you know with parents nine stuff parents don't come out i think people are so overwhelmed that they just don't see the way out but i want to talk about one more thing that i think is really important it might help some parents will fill in a will not think most parents want the best for their kids maybe they don't know how to give it to them while you know how to bring that about but one of the advantages of children growing up listening to like jazz and classical music because that's something you know it's been a whole lot of research on that and what are the advantages because you can do that and it doesn't cost anything except turning your math science and in actually societal concerns they seem to study a little bit more about what's what is current they are also much more intelligent and you'll find that the ten percent of these youngsters who are in the top of your schools are music people and the people who study the arts and the art of soul was so important because they they reach out to the person they bring out the in a most good in each particular youngster so arts are the things that will drive the youngsters into the other fields that they planned to go if they go in because you're working on the job and you're trying to regime youngsters it does take a lot but you know what the community also could help by looking out for the youngsters in your community that are close in your or your surroundings and help the parents if you know that they are only one single family parents and so it really it takes a whole village to raise a child and that's what we need to do more of today in order to help these youngsters given some ideas support them and also give them some good guidance a lot of parents don't give them that  station or jazz station and just play it in the house you don't have to tell the kids sit down and listen to this just learn to play and you know it will happen without them even realizing it of course it doesn't mean that you bypass homework and  no easy way out of it but yes this is really important and you were talking about the arts people i don't know what's happening in america where the arts well i guess at the ice has become a commodity you know everything everything artistic has been commodified and it's about money so that people don't have access to it the way they used to and so that's why a lot of this great division and people now are learning and everything is and they've been told if you're honest that you're not serious like we were taught people  understand when you go on the stage and you do a one hour show it's probably worth five thousand hours to you to vote it to be good enough to do that one hour show so you're not a slacker if you are if you're a very hard working person many of the thing about the arts is free imaginations and that's why artists tend to be on a different plane before because you have to use your imagination to make all these sounds whether you sing and dance and when i am absolutely the youngsters need to be exposed to music when they're in the crib yes in that way they begin to grow with that in the background it music will relax you music will excite to music will make you do things that you ordinarily wouldn't do in a positive way but the arts will do that for people and make them think a lot of our youngsters don't the chance to go out play anymore they don't really get out and imagine different characters and stuff like that and the parts will do that it will expand the mind and help the youngsters grow yeah that's true and we have to you know people are telling parents that that's really really what we're telling you that should be something that everybody knows and the schools are cutting back on these programs is not the school's fault it comes even higher than that right but yeah they were saying even even children if they hear this in the crib they grow up you think that's right ever people that are listening and i know you can you tell me if i'm wrong but it's because jazz classical music has it's kind of complex it has different layers so when you're makes you listen to a lot of different schools to keep that to keep those programs then we have a state mandate that that music can be or the drama dance or all of that should be included in the child's growing up and  all true so true and so before we go because as always you run out of time so can you give us like step by step what some communities can do to encourage you to do what you've done to get young people involved in some area of the arts because it's also an outlet you know this is you get frustrated you have to have an outlet if you don't have a hell especially young person if you come out very negatively because you don't have al and how did you know that in music so could you give us a step programs for the youngsters and the community to bring families together because no greater opportunity to bring in families together is the music return we put forth parents are there with the kids the youngsters and grandparents and all of that stuff it really brings them together so if they did the towns can really create programs like most of them do most some have series of concerts throughout the summer because they know that the youngsters out of school and the youngsters if they're if they don't have a dedicated thing to do there's nothing much for them to do so you want to get  and set up a program and make sure that is viable throughout the summer and well actually throughout the whole year making sure they have the support and the programs in the schools and then also the programs in the dorian thank you so much oh it's and wonderful thank you so much for having me while the people watching the show we're going to set up a facebook page where you can find out 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