every time i face a new anniversary of the battle in seattle or see a new documentary or revisit older documentary i am certainly taken back to those moments on the streets of my city in the in late one nine hundred ninety nine and i don't care how many times i see it i don't care how many times i read of it i'm affected at a very deep emotional level i gave a talk at town hall that was sponsored by elliott bay books in in the early stages of a book tour and at the end of my talk in which i had in fact apologized to the people of seattle to my own police officers and certainly from visitors from throughout the globe for my very poor leadership during that week and for the biggest mistake of my career i spent thirty four years as a cop i committed myself to certain principles and values and believed that i was on the right track and that the w protest the globalization and anti globalization conversation that my mayor paul shell your marriage if you have to live in the city at that time believed what happened in other words  conversation a learning moment an opportunity for people to see in sharp relief the effects of globalization of corporate greed of imperialism of the abuse of people in the workforce on and on and on and those who are advocating for globalization the lewis powell letter which is so strong and so important i think for every american to read to really come face to face and in fact with the enemy and in any of that this was to have been a learning moment and it was that my problem and my concern is that we have not learned the lessons of w t o i will confess here and now that when i gave that talk at town hall i said look we had to clear that intersection on tuesday morning which for me was the catalytic marker event of the week there's some footage here of you know i can quarrel with the filmmaker but it's a wonderful film of me talking about our restraint and so on so for at least the first glimpse of that was on the first day when people were coming up to me protesters from our own local community and thanking me and appreciating our officers for their restraint and for their professionalism which all of course went completely south on tuesday morning of that week it was that decision that i regret more than any of my thirty four years as a cop so we did learn a lot  for five years into my retirement the book was published in two thousand and five i believed that we had no choice i'm being completely honest with you when i say i believe that we needed to do what we did so i made that statement and i offered a rationale for it if we needed to get in a car through to somebody who's bleeding on the other side of that intersection if we if there was a fire if there was a woman giving birth on the twenty seventh floor of the sheraton for police reasons we need this intersection and of course i have now come fully to the conclusion that that was nonsense that there were any number of things that could have been done including nothing that would have produced a better outcome so my deepest and most humble apology thank you i don't say that for the purposes of my but he came up to me and he said i used to be proud to live in this city i used to be proud that you were my police chief and i am now ashamed of you well nobody wants to hear that we needed that intersection i go on book tour i hear from a lot of people in california oregon and certainly throughout washington state and i've given a talk at cain hall and i've had my come to jesus moment and i said that that was in fact the biggest mistake of my career and restored my faith that we can in fact learn from these mistakes but we've got to acknowledge them in the first place which is hard to do if you're convinced that you own the streets see it we regulate those streets day in and day out those sidewalks we regulate traffic we engage in routine law enforcement policies and procedures and practices and so when something truly special happens namely the people of this country with visitors from around the globe claim those streets we should have been that moment acknowledged that the streets do in fact belong to the people the police in america belong to the people not the other way around i believe that at some level but i didn't feel it the way i feel it today i theer for this country i fear for every single young african american male in particular who encounters far together too many police officers who then credence to what you were talking about i heard it in san diego i heard it in seattle from african american moms middle aged moms say my biggest fear is not that that eddie gets jumped into a gang twelve thirteen years old my biggest fear is not that he does or deals drugs my biggest fear is he's going to meet one of you people one night and he's not going to come home to mom's almost the same expressed almost verbatim the same fear and white cops who don't get that who don't understand that who don't go out of their way to open their hearts and particularly their minds represent a real danger to their communities and ultimately to this country to this society the last thing i want to say is as you suggested earlier why would we expect anything else this film makes much of the fact that eighty nine percent of police departments have a paramilitary unit i'm sorry but as somebody who spent thirty four years as a cop i will tell you every police in this country has a paramilitary unit it's called the police department it's paramilitary it's beer at kraddick it has a rich and ugly tradition of protecting the money and property rights of people throughout this country that applies here in progress if seattle it applies in conservative san diego it applies from border to border and sea see to paramilitary bureaucratic policing guarantees that we will see would absolutely predictable results the same reaction we saw in ferguson a cop sitting on top of an emerald mine resistant ambush protected vehicle designed for war in iraq in afghanistan words that i think we truly do need to question but design first soldiers in war time and here they are policing the streets of an american city with a cop sitting on top with a sniper rifle and by the way pointing at people what has it come  to get a declaration of emergency you need a mare with a governor to bless it so really we all that is to say the structure of the power structure of the city of seattle and the state of washington all colluded with that decision and i'm right there at the forefront of it i think paul shell got a bad rap for w t o by the way he fumbled a lot and he stumbled a lot but in fact it was on me you are looking at the band who is responsible for the police tactics it was not paul shell may he rest in peace i think he made some big mistakes that week there were mostly mistakes that are internal and political and i told him self well never mind i won't go there but i think it's i think it's vital that we understand that unless and until we are prepared an organized mobilized active community to confront police militarization by demanding an end or a major overhaul over overhaul of the federal government's ten thirty three program which provides military surplus to law enforcement fish like from drum were fighting to drug fighting and believe me it's low level nonviolent drug offenders who are hit during those pre dawn raise and their families and their pets and oftentimes wrong houses or head on on drug raids as a result of sloppy police work so if we want to turn it around in conclusion i think it's going to have to come from an organized mobilized aroused and informed citizenry insisting on and into the militarization insisting on transparent and transparency and accountability that you get only through civilian oversight of local law enforcement policies and practices it's not going to happen i'm feeling pessimistic tonight tomorrow i may be a little more optimist you know i've testified at the u s senate recently and they got that up on the you tube just put in cross testimony on you tube you know it was fun and it was an amazing experience to do that and to get all the feedback and everything and at the end all talk a little bit about some of the outcomes of what i did and and what happened that has me a bit depressed but hell that's the nature of the beast when you're talking about resistance so i've got three kids one of whom is twenty two years old and is working on a fulbright research phones ship in indonesia and i just spent a month over there with her and she's learned the language and we are doing research together over there and guess what on police militarization she's doing it from the environmental saat law illegal logging and things like that of course i've made connection with one of the three commissioners of the indonesian national police john a smilie ana and he's in charge of four hundred twenty one thousand people and so we hung out for a month together my daughter him and we went to all different kinds of places in an indonesian i have a six year old daughter an eleven year old daughter and thoroughly enjoy life just to spite how depressing this is going to be  and you know sometimes these things are really hard to get through i did not like watching that documentary for example that makes me uncomfortable it pisses me off it you know and you realise how little has changed  in and in what kind of intensely bad direction we just continue to head so i hope i can give you some sense of hope and in spaces and places but don't hold your breath  in alaska back then people actually didn't track you down as well as my parents didn't report me people didn't track you down and so i worked in alaska for a lot of years and i ended up becoming a fly out fishing guide on the wood river is actually at this log which is now privately own  but on the wood river and i actually built that cabin that cabin so i did that for a lot of years of my life and so always had an affinity for the south the northwest and course getting into seattle is just gorgeous and always make me want to get back to alaska i still have a lot of family there it wanted to first of all give you a real quick overview of what a bit up to for the last talking about fixing police militarization well it's actually a really important i think intellectual exercise in theoretical exercise to get at the notion of police militarization from from a broad perspective i mean the whole notion of the modern nation state democratic modern nation state was a clear delineation between civilian policing and u s armed forces like one of the original tenets of democratic govern now i'm not saying it wasn't a scam possibly it was you know possibly they said let's just make these people act a little bit differently and dress a little bit differently and let's leave these people and they'll do x total security and they'll do internal security wink wink but they're all one in the same we've just duped them all maybe but we do know that the idea of civilian policing around the world is a tenet of democratic governance and we do know militarization we can't think of are they militarized and i will talk about this morning are they militarized or are they not militarized that's silly of course they're militarized they're paramilitary the key is and we'll talk about at length here in a minute is the extent to which they're militarized where do they fall in the continuum are they extruding lee militarized or are they barely militarized that's consequential that leads to extreme suffering versus being fairly responsive to the people that they're serving depending on where they fall on the continuum so it's not just a silly policy based issue there's a lot there's a lot to it one of the  notice twenty five actually twenty six years ago as part of ronald reagan's drug war i don't know if how many of you of remember or war we were even around but ronald reagan launched this intensely punitive drug war  course this was only a continuation of other drug wars but when lynne bias a basketball player died and be a player died everybody said oh it's a cocaine overdose and he must have been smoking this new thing called crack cocaine and all kinds of crazy things were happening and so one thousand nine hundred eighty five the drug war really got kicked off and what i noticed is that the u s military itself because of the end of the cold war started really getting involved in domestic law enforcement and they also started really getting involved in international law enforcement and so it struck me as peculiar that the u s military was becoming army general colonel d reason much of a reason for existence we sure as hell don't want this peacetime divident to occur so we've got to find something to do and politicians politicians push them into it but they also embraced it themselves and so i began studying and writing about the police ization of the military more so than the militarization of policing and then of course that led me inevitably down the path of hanging out with students that were active duty military active duty military folks that were training local swat members on how to do sniper work and how to do navy seals type entries on people's private residences of course this was a long time ago and i was shocked that it was happening but i knew it was happening probably all over the place so here we have the flip side of the coin where not the police is a show of the military but the militarization of police the this is an this is just by the way a quick example of what what went on in some of the iraq war the military refers to crime control and drug war activity in some terrorist activities low intensity conflict sometimes they call it operations other than war sometimes a cause asymmetrical warfare and here's an example of us soldier after doing a home raid having the occupants just like that happens in this country  six hundred times a day taking the occupants and marking them with a sharpie so they can identify them later on a great example of policing in a foreign  country so back to back to the point so what i noticed in looking at one side of the coin the other side of the coin is that clearly these were coalescing i never predicted that they were going to coalesce i knew that our government is too deceitful and the police and law enforcement would all become increasingly blurry so i ended up looking at the big picture of this and this would take me quite a while to tease out but i'm sure you all can click into it you seem like a fascinating crowd here's a visual example of the fading distinction between the police the military and public course you've got your blackwater folks now where you got private and public blurring you've got war and law enforcement and this is an advertisement that says come to our training camp we will train you no matter what the mission tons of for profit training camps all over the united states of america that train both the military and the police all in the same sorts of ways yes this was actually a different for private training camp called the olive security training center yeah there's a bunch of though and fortunately i'm working with quite a few investigative journalists i get everyone else to do my work for me now that are doing really good work looking into what these for profit training camps or are doing because it really has a lot to do with the police moving rapidly in an intense way down the militarization continuum so i talked about how this is all coalescing into a new security industrial was ratcheting back its use of violence and force and there's a lot of talk of all the soft controls in the surveillance control as an electron and of thing and of course that's true absolutely no doubt that academics have an amazing way of saying if something is ascending then something else must must be descending and of course what they don't realize is that the yes something was ascending the soft control surveillance all that shit going on but rapidly we were seeing the ascension behind the stage so the iron fist in the velvet glove right it was ascending as well but academics were ignoring that in fact after i was writing about it and publishing about it and nobody could have given two craps about what i was saying no other assumption folks of made is this is all about nine eleven nine eleven military post nine eleven that everything has gone to hell since nine eleven we all got scared and one of the things i hope you can tell already is that this is a really complex phenomenon and it has a complex history there's a lot to it this stuff was absolutely growing exponentially long before nine eleven and nine eleven yes has been an accelerant no doubt has been a catalyst for further concepts police militarization to find it's just by my little definition but it's very simple the process by which civilian police increasingly draw from and pattern themselves around the tenets of militarism and the military model very simple i think it's important though to recognize that militarization can be seen as not just a politically pejorative kind of concept no words you know a rallying cry that it actually has substance to it i mean there could be a lot to it and there is a lot to it if you look this is probably very hard to see so i'll just make it quick  this is an example of four different militarization continuums in other words there are four dimensions of militarization if we want to think about it in a in a more exacting scholarly way to help us think clearly about it we have to understand that militarism has four dimensions one dimension is material that's what everyone's up in arms right now about the ten thirty three program and police departments are getting all these military goods the material stuff armored personnel carriers heckler and koch m p fives semi automatic weapons all this kind of stuff lots of fun cultural indicators though are no other part not just the material goods but also the cultural aspect so indices of militarism battle dress uniforms high in tight haircuts can't tell you how many cops we got university we have a law enforcement training center right next to us and i can't tell you how many cops now have their hair cut completely shaved was just the marine hair right here and the sun glasses you know that's militaristically we have to look at that carefully in fact i want to make an argument that the cultural part of it may be the most important part of it because it's the most it's the part of it that makes it the most intractable organizational indicators how are they organize well are they the lone cop on the beat walking the streets or are they taking in our research that will talk about a second show that twenty percent and i suspect it's thirty percent twenty percent of police departments now are taking their swat teams and they're doing and they're using the swat teams for random patrol in quote high crime neighborhoods they do jump outs on cars and they do no not search searches on people's private residences as they're going down the street sometimes or an armored personnel carrier other times they get a regular patrol cars but they're still all dressed up that way twenty to twenty five percent are doing that today that's an indication that organizationally things are changing it's also an indication that militarization is not just about protest policing it's not just about no knock drug raids it is becoming more normalized part of the police institution in the fight a chalkboard i do my typical profits oriel thing and i would write in big letters tactical tactical today is no nothing more than a synonym for paramilitary or paramilitary ization everything is becoming tactical you have a tactical revolver you have tactical body body armor used to kill techniques all of those are indicators cultural indicators but also organizational indicators and then finally we have operational indicators what the heck are they actually doing operation so what i want to do next is i want to go through just a couple of different slides and i want to talk about some important things that have occurred and some important features of this militarization trend because i know you all are here to honor the anniversary but we have to understand the larger context of what's going on a police militarization because it's really impacting an ugly damn way and has been for a long time communities of color and  economically disenfranchise communities deadly drug raids modesto california previous to nine eleven in the year two thousand but estell california is doing a joint operation drug exercise with the federal government very common now very common that you know you have law enforcement scholars have really i think missed the boat on the extent to which local law enforce nt is becoming so intertwined with federal and state law enforcement so the miniscule p d is involved in that kind of thing they have some real slim kind of evidence that something might be going on in  household they go to the household the federal government says modesto p d would you please do a raid on this house they have course a yes they get their swat team together they break into the house at four o'clock in the morning the whole family's asleep they don't have any intelligence that there's kids in the house but there are kids in the house they throw in flash bang grenades that go off and disorient everybody they storm through the house they grab alberto of his bed eleven years old throw him onto the floor in a swat officer puts a foot on his back and he's holding a shotgun over nobody knows how it happens but it goes on and he kills it shoots him in the back and kills what reform effort it was all kinds of stuff that could have been talked about but nobody cared back there except as to what a few other people did nationally nobody cared why do you think they didn't care i'm asking yeah these were these were drug dealers right well it turns out that the father didn't have any kind of arrest record no drugs were found it was just you know horrible tragedy all around and you know and i can tell you you know we'll get into a long discussion because i work a lot with police and i get a long discussion but you know i ended up working a little bit with the and we hear a lot of stories about police being callous you know we have that one grandmother story where swat team shot the grandmother and they let her bleed to death for five minutes while she's handcuffed and she's pleading would you please get me help let lay there in bleeding or living room and then planted evidence to indicate that she you know we hear those kind of stories but i can tell you this but i still police officers were devastated i mean it just destroyed their worlds and you know we also we have to look at those things as well and best though to this day they disbanded their swat team and they did all kinds of things but that has happened again and again and again and again and again and again and again in smaller communities in local areas but nobody's ever put it all together and despite me talking to the washington times new york times trying to lay this crap out radley balko my good friend writing a book warrior cops trying to get this crap out nobody's really cared situationally they have but certainly this you know if you ever see a swat statistic it came from my damn research and it just gets regurgitated again and again and again and people make up numbers and they call me and they say is this number correct also have no idea where you got that number but no it's not correct and again and again but right now in the year two thousand we have about no excuse me in the year two thousand and fourteen my best guesstimate is about sixty five thousand swat raids a year remember that these aren't for terrorism they're not for barricaded suspects they're not for hostages they are almost all not all but almost all for  level drug infractions now you might say well why are cops doing this crap i ran into one of the heads of the national tactical officers association and you can tell this guy's been a cop for a long time and he's very marine like but you get out you can tell now he's become quite reflexive he works for the national tackle officers association which has forty thousand members and he's out there trying to reform swop he really wants to reform swat he tells me and of course i knew this already but it was great to hear it come out of his mouth he said this is us after the us senate testimony he says prescot do you know why the shit took off like it did and like i don't know what you tell me and he said civil asset for civil asset forfeiture one of the brilliant ways that police departments can generate a slush fund outside of the normal tax base of dollars he said that what motivated much of that to then and increasingly today is being able to collect not criminal evidence but actually illegal cash illegal guns illegal property et it's not necessarily illegal and the washington post by the way just did a wonderful four part series on civil asset forfeiture is one of the best things that i've seen and again i'm frustrated with academ because they're not writing about this kind of stuff right now they do they fit it into little articles and so but we don't have an intense group of academics that are really studying this stuff like they ought to be and i'm getting too old and tired to looking for someone they suspected of using stolen credit cards to buy clothes and electronics the whole search was caught on surveillance video police tell us they knocked first but the video tells a different story it shows one officer pounding on the side of the house seconds later officers use a battering ram to force their way in prince's son justin ross was in the bathroom at the time and he was armed with a gun that he's legally allowed to carry when an officer kicked the door i stood up i drew my weapon i started to get myself together to come out the door i heard somebody out in the main room say police and i recall third my weapon i sat back down and i put my hands and if the officer had gotten in the bathroom on the first kick the story probably would have had a different ending i would have been standing there with my weapon drawn pointed at the doorway and they probably would have shot me this is over property purchased with a stolen credit card it doesn't make any sense that they would go to such extremes for something that simple police apparently did not find any of the items they were looking for in the warrant they did arrest two people who were staying with the family on unrelated charges read as get i was charged with a probation violation richard a dare was charged with possession of drugs with intent to deliver the family believes the police were also trying to cover up the way they were executing the warrant by covering up and and one case even reading out a security camera you can see th officers bought the security camera in front of the house and then rips it right out another officer spots this video camera downstairs and covers it up the family says if the police had knocked they would have opened the door and allowed the officers to search the home now they took place in a city but the suspects live in des moines and i think the police say they do not have any written policy governing how they search they conduct search warrants and they cannot comment any further on this because it's considered an ongoing investigation police so all  right so let's go back to one thousand nine hundred three a little chapter in american history that nobody wants to talk about journalists don't want to talk about it with me and i don't bother talking to about it because i know it's going to get misinterpreted i don't mind talking to you all about it i don't mind it actually being recorded as i hope i can clarify my comments and make it real clear what this is all about i think waco was a watershed moment in american militarization here we had military active duty military special operations folks working in sync and directly with local law enforcement to prosecute probably one of the most tragic police exercises in u s history eighty six people were killed twenty six were children remember the c s gas you saw autopsies revealed that the upwards of twelve of those children probably died just from c s gas poisoning the people that carried out the final rate of  compound absolutely knew there were children in there and they absolutely knew they were putting lethal less levels of c s gas into the place notice how by the way i just called it a dam compound we don't know if it's a compound and the prosecutor asked me to testify and the defense side asked me to testify which was very weird because they both wanted some insight into timothy mcveigh's thinking so i did get to talk to him but i also read a lot of what timothy mcveigh had to say to the mcveigh was somebody by the by the way to the victor sorry timothy mcveigh forget that a lot of your young timothy mcveigh was a four x u s soldier came back from the iraq war the gulf war came back from the war got disenfranchised with the u s government drove a fuse lit bomb in a man in a rental truck in front of the murrah building in oklahoma city detonated killed one hundred sixty eight people brutal horrible act of terror so what was he up to the course people want to see evil and crazy and all that kind of stuff i'm not saying what he did didn't was it wasn't evil you know feel free to put that label on it but i can tell you this it was all about payback it was no different than any of the damn movies you watch any of the damn movie as you watch where somebody is horribly angry at some injustice and they're going to make somebody pay and of course he made them pay in the way that he was trying to make people pay it blew a mum and he was proud of it and he went to the he went to the electric chair maybe he was home or because of the electric chair it was he when he was killed by the u s government over the death penalty and the entire time he never broke his exact same position one i was revenge for waco and ruby ridge so this kind of police militarization is going to have consequence and of course in this situation it had horrible consequences all the way around it's a it's a tragic tragic story here's another one katrina notice how this is progressing a little bit right here we have katrina amazing story imma tell it very quickly because marty running out of time i got tons of stuff to get through very quickly amazing story though here we have fema fema has always done a fairly good job in u s history of responding in a humanitarian way to big dam disasters they've got a pretty good track record it's actually not been historically a bad organization believe it or not they're all about humanitarian relief nine eleven happens fema gets put under the department of homeland security and guess what department of homeland security does they make them adopt a mindset of security first humanitarian aid second and of course it's for the african americans that live in new orleans so the aftermath of katrina hit it took them four damn days to give any real humanitarian relief why because all of this was happening blackwater was patrolling the streets the national guard and swat teams from everywhere why were they there not to hand out water b it's another key event in american history where the militarization of policing became a central feature of even something as simple as response not something as tragic as responding to a disastrous a natural disaster and then we have of course occupy the miami model we could have watched a documentary on miami real frickin mess and the ferguson situation you know i don't even know what to say about this there's a lot of things i could get into but i can tell you that you know this kind of thing is you know with a sniper up on the armored personnel carrier and by the way this wasn't ferguson p d this was st louis county and this is the nor this is the more and i don't want to give anybody a hard time for misunderstanding some things a lot of people think this has to do  with you know the department of defense in the in the federal government giving away goodies these departments have been buying this stuff since one thousand nine hundred eighty eight they've been buying this stuff forever and the problem isn't supply the problem is there's a demand for it you know kind of like with the drug war going to try to affect demand or supply well the problem isn't supply you could cut off ten thirty ten thirty three could go away to morrow nothing would change why they would take two hundred seventy five thousand dollars of department homeland security money and still buy an armored personnel carrier they would take out one hundred fifty thousand dollars out of their civil asset forfeiture slush fund and still find a way to buy m p five's or new heckler and koch weaponry for their whole swat team they'd figure out a way to do it why because the demand is there because police culture dictates  so i want to talk about a cultural war what's going on in policing what's going on in policing is some amazing things that have been happening and you know it's kind of like a climatologist i doubt any of we're going to be really excited that they were right that everything goes to shit and we start seeing mass extinction you know oh god i was right i was damn right wing naysayers kind of the same thing with me you know i don't take any great a great joy out of being right about how community policing never had a chance community policing never had a chance it was with us of federal effort and i think for a lot of people i'm not i don't think i know firsthand for a lot people a very sincere effort to democratize police services to get it to change to create structural changes organizational changes cultural changes really make a difference and in some departments as work remember we have eighteen thousand different apartments and united states of america and some of them have really embraced it and they've done a pretty damn good job with it as journalists are always saying what tell me which wants to list they have well saying that oh they're not flawed but they have but the efforts were doomed from the get go for a lot of reasons one of the things i covered my militarization research is that a lot of departments were taking community policing funds and they were just simply shuffling their budgets around so they could pay for militarization and the cops in the in the in the there that didn't really impact the culture of the police the part of the cops are still calling it but short of things like grin and wave policing or maybe pamby policing or limp wrist policing and you know all kinds of stuff there was not a lot of respect a lot of different departments particularly those with old hard nosed traditions to for any of this to actually take hold and so community policing again no doubt because of a lot of funding it was certainly a sending i'm not saying it was a sending necessarily for real maybe in rhetoric at the same time military police militarization was occurring and at this point i think the end of the story is real clear there are two strains of community policing but so you old heads in here like this they were these police reformers back in the day that had a very progressive idea of community policing truly empowering the communities they're working with a real kind of grassroots sort of community organization model and the police would be a part of that movement and they wrote up all kinds of neat stuff in a lot of apartments try to go with that exit or let's call that the progressive leg of community policing or strain that's a better word strain of communities but then we had george kelling james q wilson other folks that wanted to see a more hard nosed type of community policing they didn't want to call it community policing but they figured it was a juggernaut so they went ahead and jumped on board but they said you know what community policing is all about fixing the little problems in a community for them what does that mean order maintenance or what they call order in force which means you would really knock the shit out of a lot of low income people for all kinds of things trying to places that have been doing the same crap they've done for a long time now under the auspices of the war on terror they can do what they want to do community policing even the community policing office under the department of justice is writing publication saying we're watching it die great quote by the way you'd think that democratization of militarization would be at odds with one another and cops would be real confused oh do we democratize or do we militarize what the hell do we do here so what do they do the only people  going to be able to deal with these problems guns drugs guns drugs gay community disorder or highly trained tactical teams militarized teams with the proper equipment to go into a neighborhood and clear the neighborhood and hold it allow a community policing policing let's do the weeding it's called it will weed out all the bad stuff and then we'll come back and see what course the problem is policing policing can actually do a pretty damn good job of weeding i don't see that it ends up controlling crime but you can make a hell of a lot of  yeah i made that quota yeah i do that a lot no it's a i think it's in social problems piece you know ages ago but i did have doing as part of two national surveys of police departments i did  have conducted over one hundred twenty interviews either face to face or telephone interviews with swat commanders and so i've got a lot of really great quotes one of the quotes i wrote i was scared to put it anywhere else please excuse me i was untenure family is screwed and to some extent i've got i've gotten taken on pretty well but i've weathered the storm not that big a deal certainly not like you pepper spray the guy or getting hit with a stick or something like that which knock on wood hopefully are all dying for questions ok let's let's have a disc let's discuss thing but let me see if i've got anything else i want to get this is one of this is the moment runs going to run through crap navy seals  orship huge part of policing right now is the worshipping of military special operations folks now you might say oh that's weird that's a huge part of our culture right how many damn movies do you watch th the ultimate masculine figure is a x navy seals guy super kind by the way wonderful person a man he can kill you just by looking at you dick kramer is the artist this is all about police culture he's one of the premier artists for swat teams and military special operations folks notice the caption to this particular picture time to take the garbage out i was going to talk about masculinity and the strain of toxic masculinity that's a huge part of what we're seeing with police militarization today and i think just for you all feminists in here you know you all know this it's very obvious that a lot of this is the backlash to feminism it's the same kind of toxic masculinity that makes mixed martial arts fighting very popular in fact i just published a piece in british journal criminology a mixed martial ar and kill you very quickly because what they're saying now is that your pockets are like holsters for your fists yeah and so you let those hands come up and that's an m m a fighter and they know how to do all that  anyone who you know really interested in this police culture has been hugely impacted by the trilogy this is called the holy trinity of police training some people call it the black bibles and it's this person by the name of charles that writes out rageous lee inflammatory scary stuff about the what various ways that you will be killed as a cop and you're not going to go home to your family unless you adopt a warrior mindset and what is a warrior mindset translate to man you shoot fast and you empty your frickin gun and you don't think they yell at a bit of the training they yell at cops and tell them they yell at them and say eighty percent of cops are killed never fire their gun are you going to be one of those dumb asses get that gun out and start shooting it's a huge part of why what's happening today is happening in the fall i was going to just talk very briefly about  he said today that the u s he wants to make sure the u s is that building a militarized culture he wants to make sure that the by the way the way he's going to make sure of it is he's not going to cut off the ten thirty three military program he's going to give them more training dollars on how to drive an a p c he's going to get more training dollars on how to do what use military gear better and who's going to give that training military very disappointing and of course body kim you have to have a system of accountability behind the body kims for the body cams to make any damn difference and clearly we don't have a system of accountability so you get all the damn videotape evidence you want and i know from working as an expert witness in cases my good friend vic kept were does a lot use do a lot of that kind of work hell trying to get any kind of accountability against the police is extremely difficult even if you have videotape evidence and i was going to talk about protesting in just the crazy idea i think it's crazy i grew up fighting i grew up hard and to me it just seems crazy that all protests have to be scum plea peaceful i hate to incite violence but to me it's the social contract teaches us the social contract teaches us that the state gets to do whatever the hell they want corey may i have wrote written out here corey i'm a black guy in  alabama grabs his three year old daughter to shield her behind a crib with a handgun because he doesn't know who's breaking into his house the swat team comes to the door he gets off lucky shot kills a cop but shoot him in the neck realizes cop throws a gun down sits on death row for eight years because he was trying to protect his family eight years on death row and just about two years ago he finally got out of prison after serving eleven and a half years eight years in solitary confinement because he's trying to protect his three year old daughter what does that tell us the social contract teaches us all of us tacitly some of us explicitly but always tacitly we have no right to defend ourselves against the state we have no right to use violence when it comes to the state only they get to do it so we have to do things like just sit there and get sprayed and lay down and do all this stuff and never fight back and man if you fight back good luck for right just virtually fight back you know all these videos floating around now where people are saying things like hey you can arrest me really they can arrest you i want them start putting the videos up where the cop says i don't give a shit that you're videotaping me