good evening everyone and thank you so much for coming out and being here tonight and it's wonderful to be back in seattle i don't feel sorry for you living it's so wonderful i just flew in from new mexico and there's no border and nothing green it's really exciting to be you're a big thank you to rich university temple united methodist church and other tim and miriam lady of the lake and most especially lorraine in the committee for bringing me and how about of a big round of applause in the rain thank you and everybody in the committee for bringing me here and it's so nice to see so many friends and to hear about all the great things you're doing that parks christie and ground zero and f o r and all these various troublemaking groups and aren't just very very heartened and just want safe thank you you know thank you frank you think you faint you every one of you for everything you're doing for justice and peace and for the god of justice and peace and port churches and po jesus in the poor world and i just want to encourage you to keep at it and you know looking at all you holy seattle peacemakers i'm nervous and reminded with this kind of funny contraption of the story of the young priest giving his first sermon and he's very nervous and he comes to the microphone and he's have to give a sermon he sees the people in taps on the microphone and says something's wrong with this microphone and the congregation goes and also with you i'm sorry it's my best to inspire only joke it's going to be downhill from there and i'm sorry if you've heard me before i just love you know which is actually a true story i'm just back from south africa in the middle of all the troubles i've got going on in my life and you know as a lifelong dream to go there many of you probably worked to oppose apartheid and i don't know that maybe like you could have gotten in earlier and with my friend father ray and we went everywhere and met everybody johannesburg in some way and went to churches that had been the sister parishes and then we went to peter martz bergner how many of you know your gandhi you remember the beginning of the gandhi movie he gets thrown off the train because the sitting in the first class and it's midnight and he's dropped in the middle of nowhere in south africa it's only been there for a week and he's a dopey twenty one year old kid and he's left in the waiting room at the peter martz train station in eighteen ninety three and he's really scary and it's cold and he sits on the floor told nine am and he knows this is what am i going to do about this injustice and he stands out and he wrote in his autobiography my act of nonviolence began bad day we went to the train station i know it's a little over the top but it's the same train station since eight hundred ninety three the goofy old aren't you brick victorian building  the same waiting room and we prayed there was so powerful that we could have a portion of gandhi spirit all of us to stand up and give our lives fighting injustice like he did then we went to durban gandhi built which is still there and lived there for twenty years we began the movement and then we went down to port elizabeth to visit the home of steve biko who was a personal real hero for me and i think about heart of south africa in many ways more than mandela for what he did his vision of black consciousness of being a human being went to the house where he was banned and then prayed at this grave and we made our way to cape town to robben island and spent a day there and praying in mandela's and then i spent a day with archbishop desmond tutu and you friends and it was i felt like the product will sign we had eucharist together and he says to me which i say to you we can never give up working for justice and peace john he said looking  never we have to work at this till the day we die because our sisters and brothers are dying around the world isis message i share with you he's eighty two he's been under death threat practically every day since he was thirteen and other well i will you know his story and he was been ill and he was leaving for iran the next day which is no joke he's causing so much trouble in south africa at the moment speaking out and he looks me in the eye and he goes i weep i cry i cry every single day about what's happening to our sisters and brothers laugh i laugh every single day and i read the prophet jeremiah and he weeps and he laughs and he goes and confronts the empire and that's what i wanted to share in that teaching with you isn't it great he's not a raging angry man nor is he afraid nor is he disappearing nor is he depressed he's grieving and he's joyful and he's going forward are there any questions a such a helpful thing friends we are not powerless we have a power to change ourselves and seattle and our country and the world if we dared to live up to it the way of god which is the methodology of nonviolence which gandhi and dr king approved and all are we're working on too with archbishop tutu and so many others i encourage don't give up don't be depressed and don't despair don't be afraid and don't sit back and do nothing just because things are so hard we've got a way forward we've got to try and that's what i'd like to reflect with you a little bit maybe share a story or two and a little bit about violence and nonviolence you know i've been talking about my new book the nonviolent life i'm still i know i'm stuck on a message but i think gandhi in king are right that nonviolence is the only hope for the world and i've been trying with you to reflect on what that means so i want to share what i think about maybe say a word about jesus and then we have time for a question and answer rich and then we will resolve everything how does that sound as a player we are sorry for those of you don't know me or maybe you do i don't know but i'm fifty four and was really my change happened when i was twenty one  decided to go into hitchhiking color image through israel and had left the week israel invaded lebanon and all the holy land tours were canceled the summer war of one nine hundred eighty two maybe remember that richard was called operation peace for galilee was orchestrated at the pentagon we killed sixty thousand people and i hitchhiked through israel completely oblivious to everything and spent a week camping out illegally at the sea of galilee which was so beautiful and so exciting  sure that little hill the little church and i would say it was like graffiti as far as i was concerned written on the walls of the church can you imagine they did this plus or are they're poor blessed are those heart blessed are the peacemakers plus are those persecuted for working for justice your love your enemies and not being very bright i thought to myself oh my god i think this guy's serious and it and i don't know how to do it but with you i'm on a journey and that's what i find helpful that living the beatitudes in the search in the way of nonviolence and peace love and compassion journey and we're on it together toward a whole new world of peace where are you on the road to peace winner gerges any star how have you been a victim of the culture of war through your life and crazy country and how have you turned in tried to become a person of nonviolence and peace and as you look at the rest of your life so i'm reflecting i invite you to reflect on your own journey with the short time we have left on earth how can we go deeper into the life of nonviolence the journey of p what's the point of all this is good but what i blurted out and he said a host so helpful all you have to do is make your story fit into the story of jesus  at first i thought i was some wonderful my god you know he could have said go and end all wars and nuclear weapons this is so much better but maybe even harder and so much more liberating i'm trying to deflect like that led me to el salvador to work with the jesuits at the university they sent me out to a refugee camp with us was in the area and to greet the death squads when they came in to have known these great jesuits six of them who were later assassinated changed my life and that led me to walk on to the scene with johnson air force base with philip berrigan in one thousand nine hundred three you know by now you've heard i have a long list just say i had a problem with recidivism and like bill and steve kelly and so many good friends here in seattle we walked right up to one of the f fifteen nuclear fighter bombers took out a hammer and i up the side of it and hammer what's on it like that didn't even chip the pain but as i said to the judge later your honor i'm just doing what it says in the bible that's the actual translation from the original greek and it didn't go over well with the judge either i don't i'm trying to be humorous about all of this because it's the only way to keep yourself going what an experience friends really powerful and we were thrown on the ground at twenty five soldiers with machine guns at our heads we joined hands or four of us we prayed and there were fifty soldiers and nor hundred soldiers and there were two hundred soldiers in there were five hundred soldiers one thousand soldiers and we had walked into and shut down the whole annual us national war games ten thousand soldiers and the top ten generals were all fired how did these people get right in the of it ours was the fiftieth of about ninety platters actions now and we were put in jail for phil and i for about nine months and gruesomely in little cell we never left it never never went outdoors never exercise nothing it was horrible really really really terrible and but we took the gospel and started to read in the gospel of mark and then when you know we took a little piece of wonder bread which we reserve for breakfast and on mondays we had those little plastic cups with the grape juice which i always joke we found if you hid it in the top of the toilet it ferments quite and it was like cheeses was right there with us i'm just sharing with you my journey was so powerful and i always think there's an inverse proportionality the more that i try to do i'm going to change the world and w e doing it the less it happens the more you let go and your life is over and you've been destroyed crushed by the culture and you walk in now god can do something more happens daniel berrigan always taught me only get enough light from the next step that means one not the day not the next week not the next year but the trick is to keep taking next steps in the dark in faith so many stories to share my trip to iraq my work at september eleventh the ground zero the coordinator for the red cross and chaplains working with the relatives who lost loved ones and are or are demonstrations against the war in afghanistan getting kicked out of new york and moving to new mexico the poorest state in the country number one  everything including military spending number one in nuclear weapons or mike from the radio show today we think there's five hundred nuclear weapons api albuquerque airport and it's number one in drunk driving child hunger suicide domestic violence alcoholism the section and northern new mexico hands down the worst place in the states more murders than anywhere else the center of all drugs and right at the mountain is l alamos birthplace of the bomb where business is booming where obama is still trying to build the state of the art plutonium bomb factories done more for nuclear weapons than anybody since reagan in one thousand nine hundred three we have our annual peace vigil there and we put war nuclear weapons and beg the god of peace for the gift of nuclear disarmament to try to take our work for peace public without judging and condemning pointing fingers because we were all in the same boat together  and you know so i come from you know where i i stay in new mexico i look out at los alamos and we have you know our other friends here too and i can tell you much more detail some fifteen to twenty thousand clear weapons on the planet but if twenty five wars happen with us selling weapons to both sides but there's four billion people in a subhuman extreme poverty the u n says a billion people are starving  but we're too far as of catastrophic climate change or destruction of the earth and we were talking this afternoon and the latest report saying within twenty thirty years we will force sporty percent of all creatures into extinction last week the congressional record reported that over the next thirty years the united states government has now committed in its budget to spend one trillion dollars to upgrade its nuclear weapons and try and sell marines and weapons of mass destruction hundred sixty look it up it's incredible he says well when they finally does exceed it killing us and blowing up the planet would be totally illegal hugh and i can't stand for this anymore and we have to stand up publicly i always say it begins with the vision of the heart and that this is the key to the whole spiritual life or just life or all organized religion or theology or any spiritual my sister my brother with every human being you can never hurt anyone again much let's kill someone or be silent and just go about your day to day when there's twenty five words fifteen thousand nuclear weapons a billion people started catastrophic climate change the whole litany of violence that you're all resisting prisoners here in town to torture racism sexism violence against children so there's nothing passive about this this is active love pursuing the truth of our common unity reckon every human being allowing the god of peace to disarm our hearts of the violence within us that we can be instruments of god's disarming love standing up publicly like all our heroes from now on and saying no and resisting the structures and institutions of mass murder practicing is so wonderful  noble for which you and i will ever again support the taking of a single human life no no i just gotta kill hitler or saddam or some or no that's the boundary line of nonviolence nonviolent sets boundaries in this culture of violence that we can then begin to discover what it means to be a human being that we can discover what it means to love and practice universal love and boundless compassion in the peace of god but it's in this addiction where you have to say is the thesis of the book the nonviolent life and see what you think about this i'm not sure you're going to agree with it but just ponder this one non violence means three simultaneous attributes in our at the same time first real nonviolence to yourself really going to make peace with yourself cultivate interior nonviolence second at the same time we're going to practice to kill is interpersonal nonviolence to every human being on the planet and all creatures and all of creation furred at the same time you have to have one foot in the global grassroots movement of nonviolence well i can see that didn't go over to world see my thought is that we're good at one of those or maybe two of those but we don't want to do all three but gandhi and dorothy day and dr king were trying to do all three and that's what christ calls us to do and all the world's religions like there's a lot of us were some of us lot of church people who are really ni and nice is not a strong point for me thirty two years of guys would educate better not go there you know really peaceful to yourselves and your relatives and not at all involved in the struggle that's not the christian way it's not nonviolence on the other hand there's a lot of us who are really active really really working for justice and peace there and we're  violence and with your time left how can you go deeper why not you know it's not worth for me listening to the media people or politicians let's take our saints in here as seriously and go forward i got this a sad letter on friday from this guy in maximum security prison in northern california and he's been reading this book and he's going how do i be nonviolent to myself and then just start writing about it i was beat up as a kid so i beat up on everybody else and then i beat up everybody in the school and then i join a gang and then we went up and beat up everybody and we started killing people now i'm in life in prison now and be never buddy up in here because you know now that i think about it it hasn't worked roots of violence inside you ponder it and don't beat yourself up on it the point is to stop the cycle of violence which is in each one of and to begin to cultivate interior nonviolence i don't even know if this makes sense but if you see what i mean to try to create a space appease actually what we're talking about are becoming mystics only a new kind of dangerous mysticism where your very presence is a threat to empire wounds or let go of your herdsman bitterness and resentments and anger and violence in your prayer and meditation with jesus with the god of peace let it go give it away forgive everyone who ever hurt you every day from now on and receive the resurrection gift of peace receive god's gift of peace in the peace and infinite love of god and there's a cop there or there's a church person yelling at you and they're going to come at you like this you've got to be doing your inner work because theoretically it's going to trigger that stuff from your youth your violets inside of you and it's go out at that person another to do what that person is what happened when you were five years old but if you're processing and constantly working on your inner disarmament and practicing it really strong interior nonviolence my friend i just gave a retreat last week into a large buddhist gathering with joan halifax and she calls this strong back soft front as opposed to an american you know strong front and actually pretty weak back you know  we want to be conscious so that when we do step forward publicly we will we won't let that trigger the violence within is the wound and we can continue to be consciously mindfully non binary secondly we want to practice meticulous interpersonal nonviolence how are you doing with that you know and you think of the difficult people in your life and unfortunately they become your teachers because they're exposing your violet's you just show up with somebody and you want to while oh well that's a helpful experience trying to make you laugh and it's not working maybe i triggered so nice you wouldn't mean i think this stuff is really important because we're talking about the world of total war i mean if we're not doing this in a work we have nothing to offer the world and this is the teaching of all the great peacemakers and by the way jesus so to reflect how can you working on these smaller moments in the day to day so that we can really grow and deepen in our spiritual lives and nonviolence and really be people who have a really wide hearts of universal love that's what we need and we have to wind this to all creatures from now on and really figure out how can be the creatures and all of creation and this is what you're doing and i want to encourage you at the same time to continue to be part of  global grassroots movement things are happening in the world is moving it's bad but there's so much good at in eighty five revolutions the last thirty years and think about the fall of the berlin wall the people power movement the end of apartheid  in liberia you all know her maybe the greatest living peacemaker she won the nobel peace prize a couple years ago liberia charles taylor two hundred thousand people massacred she just said i call upon all the women to dress in white and let's sit down on the streets and say enough is enough and he just left it can't work with these women that's powerful active nonviolence and getting rid of the dictatorship and in the war and they still had it this that's happening around the planet at least two thirds maybe more of the planet personally involved in grassroots movements for justice and you're in seattle this is an important place you can't give up i know a lot of you are working everybody's got to be involved i love our mares and nobody can do everything but everybody can do something my friends and i are working really hard in this brochure you got what we call campaign violence invite you if you're wondering what to do or to get involved if you'd like we're just trying to take nonviolence into the mainstream and do nonviolence trainings all over the country and we're leading up to this fall we're calling for three hundred demonstrations around the country beginning september twenty first international peace day up to the congressional elections based on the declaration of peace which we did six years ago and we're asking everybody to go to your local federal building or congressional office and do some a march or sit in some public witness against war a lot of people working on the drones and or poverty can take immigration or prison reform where the death penalty or global hunger or the fast going on in tacoma about get known and so forth and so on or third end or the environment and we're going to try to the connections between all the movements and reenergize the movement and if you want to get more information just look up campaign on violence but i just encourage you to keep bad this is how change happens the grassroots bottom up movement mouth parts of it every morning and every evening for the last forty five years of his life and he's not a christian he's seen this is my handbook how to be a human being in a world of total violence i invite you didn't you read t chapter nine he turns and start jesus marching toward jerusalem like gandhi on the saltmarsh or dr king in birmingham he's a movement builder he says people have been in pairs to proclaim peace and he everybody and expel the demons of war and empire and say we're the reign of god the new world of nonviolence is coming and it's so spectacular because he he walks into the temple with a religious authorities are working with the empire to oppress all the people and steal their money and he turns over the tables of the money changers and he prevents people from coming going he does this it in  nonviolent doesn't hit anybody hurt anybody kill anybody or drop a nuclear bombs but wow is he not passive he's active public and daring troublemaking and revolutionary you know it's illegal activity on behalf of justice in the name of the god of peace i've come a conclusion that everything jesus did was illegal it was a one man crime wave walking through the roman empire so i was talking about this and forgive me if you've heard it before this is a bicycle think the past back in share with you and when the war in iraq started again in two thousand and three and was speaking to a church and this woman raised her hand and she said you know i just think this is the most beautiful stuff not violence that's so interesting to think about and me personally me i'm a big fan of peace but sometimes you just gotta kill somebody in new mexico everybody talks like that you know and she said the church is right to throw out the sermon on the mount your three fifteen constantine periodically became christian and said you can all kill now enjoying this army support the empire and turn to cicero the pagan to begin to come up with the just war theory and up having the seven conditions and then you can bomb everybody for jesus and crusades and it's all christians building the nuclear weapons at los alamos and i said to her and i invite you to think about this for those of you who are christian what happens next in the story you know he's in the upper room the passover meal he takes the bread and the cop my body broken for you my blood shed for you if you were a good american he would say go break their bodies for me goetia their blood for me no my body broken for you my blood shed for you do this that's the art of nonviolence the willingness to give our lives for separate humanity he's in the garden of guess so many here come the horrible soldiers to arrest him peter's thinking oh my god guys in trouble i'm supposed to be the number one in charge i've got to protect him and he gets a sword to kill because he's thinking if there's ever i just  franz those are the last words of jesus to the church it's the last thing he said to the men and women his friends around them and if the first time they understood who is peter's god oh my god this already are in the eyes of the god of peace peacemakers the blood of the daughters and sons of the god of peace thanks very much for listening to m and i couldn't help but wonder regarding your second category of our relationships with other people and other parts of creation are you a vegetarian there what do you say about eating meat where most important books and she says do it for human beings shocking you know we eat animals you kill and torture an states to feed the cattle for mcdonald's therefore don't eat meat to help and world hunger and now the united nations is forget that it has to do with the environment that it's all about s it's all one so i became vegetarian need to need to and urge everybody to do to be vegetarian thank you so my question is a question that is as i've been asking and exploring for thirty years as a great mystery but i'm looking for a definitive answer so i hope you can do that tonight but you know in jesus you know the military leader who comes up to him who has will serve and yet so he's participating in the oppression of the jews you know i mean he's ready to kill any numbers of people who rebel reign and jesus said here there's no faith like this in in israel and now this is i just want your reflections on that this is great was ghandi right or not you know was jesus violent or nonviolent i sometimes just a clumsy word for love and peace and compassion but you know means no killing you know it's so darn exciting and i keep investigating it in with some friends who are here tonight keep talking about it but this is good i love your question and i invite you to keep going back to the stories my text and my advice is just read the four gospels for the next thirty years and then get back to bit it's the most profound story of nonviolence in all of human writing ok they disciples come and say this is guy the roman he built the synagogue he's really rich he's really nice and his son is her servant is ill and you should help him you really should do this and jesus is a book and he goes there in the word comes you know i'm a military person i give the word and it's done you're not worthy to have your near my house just say the word and the servant will be healed roman citizens which is what i hear a lot of people saying from this one story just saying the guy is bait any pure of the servants illness and then he was executed by the roman empire you know he was surrounded by six hundred drunken roman soldiers the whole coort you know when after he was arrested and tried member they mocked him and put the purple robe on him that's what empire does tortures and executes activists to make sure you know the rest of you don't get involved in this and jesus is misunderstood as a violent revolution or he did the right thing he was affirming faith faith is really the heart of everything for jesus and we don't know what he's talking about do you really believe in god or not did he really believe in jesus you know if you really believe in god what are we afraid let's go to create miracles and change the world as instruments of god you can do it we have gandhi shows that but he never supported brome or the roman empire you but i was a jesuit jesuitical since first grade when i put eight mpg in my papers through jesuit university and i jesuit pastor this minute who says hello to you and like you but i would like to know after ordered for four centuries have done so much good how your per been chel in baltimore could kick you out in that the current pope in rome or the bad it can kick you out it's to me a mystery of all mysteries these i had except for maybe one which is that thirty people has been trying to get rid of me for thirty two years from the week i entered they were under me and it's so this is our youth i resonate to talk about it because it's too painful it's not funny i'm sharing with and so i ask you to respect me this is a very personal journey community i love the martyrs i knew my teacher daniel berrigan were all suffering through what's happened to me and to others i can let jesuit speak in the south i'll just say that it's my history which you wouldn't believe i've written it up and people didn't believe it my friends read it i never talked about it publicly i think i think that happened to me you wouldn't believe it  but in these last ten years as i've spoken to a lot of people around the country and around the world you know i'm banned and kicked out of hundred diocese of two hundred by many many bishops so there in provincial and other provincials with complaints because this because the scandal that i'm against war and so what happened was i was working in love new mexico having these peace vigils at los alamos and the archbishop removed my priestly faculties because i was having sackcloth and ashes piece of rituals there which were getting enormous publicity in the state and he was he could have lost millions of dollars you know because the priest is up there seen you can't be christian and work at los alamos by the way i went in to meet him and he said yeah we need nuclear weapons i said the church is actually here can't nuclear weapons are going to ship it actually pretty clear i think no no there are only security actually in the sun it says god is our security no god can protect us i almost said of being a smart alec ok you don't believe in god yeah i didn't say that and i said jesus said in the sermon on the mount love your enemies and you and i have to help the twenty thousand christians at los alamos not be spending their lives preparing to be pariahs people no you don't have to do what jesus said yeah and that was a real life changing moment for me i got kicked out the provincial ordered me to baltimore where the headquarters is not allowed anywhere else in the open and he said i was not given assignment was basically put under house arrest which is an old jesuit thing and no seriously stepped prisons in the old days you know and you know he said to me you know as i heard every year why are you in the order you know nobody supports you why don't you leave he said to me you will leave after three years so why don't you just leave now and it's such people say what your vow of obedience but what's weird when you have your superior saying leave under obedien and he can't get rid of me because i'm an elder in the order with final vows i'm a priest in good standing but it was affecting my house and i thought this is it what what should i do and then it wasn't a choice for me and so i moved out of baltimore and was later dismissed as i was my choice to leave and i'm hoping to stay priests and i'm working with a bishop in california at the moment who wants me to continue my work so cleese keep mean your prayers and the society that we can all live up to these questions about what does it mean to follow jesus thank you hi rich that is ok but if i ask a question so you had talked about being a person not wanting to harm life and i asked this knowing that these are really delicate places in life  does that place can you reflect on beginning and end of life issues death with dignity in an abortion and things like that does that connect free for you in man or can you speak to those things had at from not not violent that come out right is this real violence to me and no one has been able to convince me otherwise but i have so many problems with the so called  lot of people bishops included were for executing people or bombing children or building nuclear weapons in their pro life so you know i'm trying to approach it all as a holistic view of non violence and i totally appreciate the question and everybody struggles with it i think you know the vision of cardinal burning really appeals to me of the seamless garment that we trying to be against every form of violence and death as a social methodology and that there are connected the metaphors and means of death and that's why i was putting it so stupidly and simply others not creatures in creation and in part of a global movement so you know war nuclear weapons but poverty but reeses and sexism but the children born  those how can we become more nonviolent and gotten so much trouble talking about this because i i see i don't believe a lot of people who are against abortion i just don't believe them i don't you know i see a lot of people same things and their actions show to me that they don't care about women or about children and i hear a lot of people who would say other things that show that they care about the whole world and anyway what is the vision of nonviolence entails for me it's a wide vision and in involves every aspect of structure of patriarchy all that's got to go to the how do you die not violently what is the nonviolent way with the community around the really serious questions and i think the church is doing catholic church against war was there another question thought i mean it is where out i've been grappling with that question my whole life to you know i am i thought if the church is against war and killing a lot of these other questions will be resolved once the church completely returns to the nonviolence of jesus then we have to do a lot of changing beginning with equality of women in men in the structures and our understanding of the body and sexuality and abortion  children in death but i mean everything is going to change and when that will be able to get somewhere what do we do about that that's what we're talking about tonight i guess my question was is there a pla administration of the roman catholic church that you're asking how can you engage the administration roman catholic church i would say why do you want to do that right now i personally have i'm just seriously reflecting with you i never really put my energies there it's strange because then i met pope john paul the second like you've been reading my books and it was quite shocking and i had a few things to say to him and recently someone gave me the secret mailing address a pope francis i thought a great so i wrote him a long letter you know like a spoke at a cigarette here's what you need to do call the third vatican council and throw out the just war theory and write in cyclicals about jesus and nonviolence and the sermon now as to what we're going to focus on the next time it years and make nonviolence the center of the church but i say that because you know we have to live that ourselves and if you want to change rome i found you know really really help make the church the church of peace and justice here in seattle and you see that that's what happened archbishop pothouse and it seems to me it was the community and jim and shelley douglass that leadership of ground zero that met with him and that had made him have such an effect and help really had a global effect on the church  you can write letters to the pope but i personally don't suggest putting your energy there i suggest putting your energy in the and the gospels and practicing where we're talking about my friend steve kelly some of you know was having dinner with daniel berrigan about ten years ago they were so depressed about the war and then said well you know what jesus would say and steve said oh your name dropper you the end i think the focus has to be on jesus i mean we could talk about organizing a movement an economic boycott of the vatican cutting off funding to the vatican until the certain changes happen maybe we should be doing it how did the cafeteria in the united states change over forty years it just doesn't happen like that it was organized and bonded by right wing republican party we know that historically and it works if you want to change the whole country you got to get the universities so the students aren't marching got to get the media we did that going to get our politicians we got that you got to go for the churches they created the moral majority and pat robertson it was all fun he went after the bishops it's brilliant should we be doing this maybe organizing a movement but meanwhile so many people are suffering and dying around the world that's why let's let's take jesus seriously build a movement and and really seems to me follow him through nonviolent resistance and become the