excited to talk to you about your story so we have two segments today we're going to be talking about sound therapy sound healing angelos story and then in our next segment we're going to be given some fun things with  sound healing so enjoy it tell us how you got started in this tell us your story because it's a really cool one i got started i have a background in and medicine and i worked in the field of medicine and radiation therapy as are edition therapist for many years over twenty five years and before that i was a professional musician when i was very much younger and so after i played music professionally for many years i decided to go i was led to go into into the field of radiation therapy and and i went to move to philadelphia because i'm from northeastern pennsylvania a little town in more northeastern pennsylvania near scranton looks spare and so i came to philadelphia went to school for radiation therapy and and at that time i got on the spiritual path i was i got on my my spiritual path because of because of certain situations in my life that happen yeah and and it wasn't till many years later that i got into i got into when i met my business partner mark jones who and we started doing some music he came to me we had happened to be playing music at a unity church and mount laurel new jersey and what happened was we actually met each other there and we didn't really it's not that we didn't we can you know we didn't think about doing any music together we were me doing music at this at this church because they asked us they needed some musicians to play so we started playing music there and he came to me one day and he said i would like to record some music how about if you would you be interested in doing some music with me and i said i i'm really not i never really recorded but i would be interested in doing music and he said don't worry i am the technical guy i can i know how we can do this and so and so we had nothing we had no  and our microphones into we had one microphone and it was you know it was a cheap microphone and we starts how we start it and so we had these ideas to restore recording music and what we did was we started recording our our cd called heaven on earth it's been out since two thousand believe and so we were recording our cd with this little equipment that we had at the time i was still working in the medical field and what happened was i got laid off yeah in two thousand and nine which which i was i was a very shocked about but it was actually a gift it was actually good for me  because i didn't realize that i was being guided to go to do the work of sound healing or as i call it healing with sound and sour because i did so well and in radiation therapy i was able to and he was he was in the air force working as a pilot so we had lucrative incomes at the time so we started spending more money on equipment for the studio that that i have now and we start building up the studio  so you know we start recording our cd and in the meantime i have a friend who lives in philadelphia michelle rix her name is and we she it came to me and said i would like to record a cd i heard you guys are recording cd for yourself i always wanted a cd for my clients a meditation cd so we we said yes we can do it for and that's how we started we finished her see her cd which is called cycles of the day and then we went back to record our cd which is heaven on earth and there are two some one to two c d s that are just really really powerful powerful meditation c d s yeah yeah i love the story of you being visit musician right so you have all this core talent and knowledge of of music and you were drawn to it there was a passion for it right and then to be able to make this segue to understand how sound through different frequencies and different combinations can really kill people i mean i bet many people watching would probably say that you know they listen to music because it feels healing when there is you know to know that there's a whole practice or a there's a whole way of of doing this that really you know does touch different parts of someone and help you know heal because their well being right their soul it's not just physical although you have as we're using the vibration now when we talk about that we have to we have to say that everything is vibration you know everything is energy and everything is in vibration whether it's the table we're looking at here or or myself even and so we're in vibration everything is in vibration everything is energy so we're using to our benefit we're using sound in a sense of residence and i'll just say this  when we talk about energy and we talk about resonance there is a law called the law of residence and the law of residence says when one object comes into the environment or the area of another object the the  higher vibration has an effect on the second on the first object which makes it vibrate at a higher level the law of residence so we use it to our advantage we use sound and even music but we use sound to our advantage and so when we use it in many ways we use it to decrease pain physical pain that people may be having we use it to raise consciousness  raise our state of awareness that's more whereat and that's one way i can explain about consciousness raising our awareness were hiding our awareness we can relate we can raise our vibration i do this a lot in classes and workshops with people we raise our energy they come in and they're they may be not feeling real well whether it's emotionally or physically and they say to me well you know i feel much better that i'm leaving now than i live feel more peaceful i feel more calm i feel more centered yeah sound can do all those things and we use it to our advantage now how do we do that and in sense what we're doing is we're using certain frequencies in a way for certain things because there is research out there and and i learned by going to the globe institute in san francisco yeah i went on more about for sound healing i didn't know that i was going to be going there yeah and this has evolved and as i went on i was getting guided to go in the direction of sound healing and there's also stories about that but you know there are there is research out there that says certain frequencies do certain things for our benefit for our healing and so that's how i use them yeah yeah i love what we were just talking about before mentioned it reconnects you to yourself  which is so true right as you're trying to evolve as individuals and trying to raise our consciousness is really about connecting back to ourselves yes and connecting to the divine you know i think it  clears the noise for a day clears the vibrational noise it clears the energy and then it just feels like a clear path to things it's a great way to center self i mean how we experience it a little bit today i do it every day i do it with some of my clients as well and as soon as you hear that vibration you just feel so much more centered and for me i feel it go all through my body from my head to my toes and there's no feeling like it experienced in you know corporate setting where even if you start a meeting or a workshop with the changes or certain you have a chip that chimes and you just allow people you give people permission just to sit in silence in peace and listen to that and let it clear them they may not know that's what's happening but it has the same effect right you know and then people can be centered even for a couple minutes to move forward  jersey and he met his wife who lived in cali lives in california and so when they got married he moved to california he lives in l a and i was out visiting him in two thousand and twelve i was the first time i met his wife and i was out there visiting him and i think i told you guys this story i was ready to leave i was coming and ready to go to the airport i was at his house and he said to me i knew i would like you to look at on the computer i have a website of schools that i'd like you to look at it he said i think you should go to for sound healing sound healing school and i said i looked at him and i said why don't you go for sounding you're out here in california and i got to travel across the country so he said that you're going to said he said yeah i guess so i was a little negative about it but i'm like i don't really know if i really want to do this  i don't know if this is the right thing to do so but i sat down at his wife's computer and i looked at the screen and i said everything said to me this is where you need to go so it's all about guidance and i followed the guidance i mean i wasn't like a young person playing music professionally saying i'm going to do sound healing so it really was i've been guided along this path and to keep taking the steps in the direction so actually and fourteen we did go i flew out to california fly to los angeles and we drove to san francisco and i did not realize that i was going to be meeting some of the biggest people in sound healing  music meditation type music for sound healers are for sound healing i should say and there's guys like randy masters and all these other people who are really some some amazing people and found healing i didn't know i was going to be you know this is who i was going to be you know some of my teachers mentors and colleagues and now colleagues because they call me and i talk to them every once and once a while about different things and sound and we were there from like eight thirty in the morning to like eleven at night for two weeks in june and then i didn't know what we decided to come back not too long after we finish those first two weeks and we came back to first the next two weeks in august and we really literally finished the whole course which is about four semesters wow and a month yeah that's an immersion yeah it's total immersion totally mercian but it was  i think about it now and i wish i could go back and so great it was just so great and it was such a great experience and you know it was the right way to go for us it's really it's really open or my path for sound for doing sound healing work i did i work with a lot of different groups now some mentally ill adults some addiction of addiction groups  such sensitivity and it's you know it's the individual it's their families there's just so so much to care for tell us about tell us a little bit about that experience interesting because we were talking about we were talking about you know sound working and we really don't have to talk about it we don't have to explain it up in pennsylvania above newtown there was there when there actually there was a i do a class at in newtown pennsylvania call solutions for daily living it's a store metaphysical store in newtown and this woman came to my class i've been doing these classes in newtown for about four years now three or four years there and this woman came to my class and she was a director at a mental residential menat mentally ill house for adults interesting because i have a background and i have a degree in social work from what i was doing at all nobody in the whole place knew i would anything about sounding on i went and before i got there she called me and she said i want to let you know these are mentally ill adults and i said to or i said her name and i  said don't worry about it i worked with that's what i've done in the past when i was working in social work for not too long i didn't work very long and as a social worker but she said ok so i went there and there is no coincidence you know there is no coincidence in life there's no point since i knew how to handle the people of this population and so i went and i was started teaching the class just like i would add at solutions  at a store that wasn't working wasn't working at all they couldn't respond to me talking a lot yeah so i said to myself i need to do something different this is not working so i thought about it and i sat with it for a while and i said i know i'm going to do something different so this woman's never said i don't want you to come back this is not work and i don't think we can do this anymore she said no i want you to come back i went i came back again about four months to six months later and it's some different seemed to be a little matter till i got to a point after a couple times i didn't do much talking i know i started doing work on them with the sound the sound just me being there with the sound with working with the tuning forks on their body working with the crystal bowls around them or or you know in the air in their area and it was absolutely amazing what i saw was and it was i started telling my business partner about this i said i think we're on to something here because this is like it is really something right i was there one time and the director said to me she said after the whole class was over she said do you understand there was a gentleman did you worked on an older gentleman you worked on with a tuning forks and she said i want to let you know he's a paranoid schizophrenic and nobody gets to touch him and all the we know we can go on your own he won't tell anybody touch him but he said he let you and so that's just one amazing story that i you know i could tell about that population and that and how sound it works without us having to explain anything yeah we don't really have to explain anything about explain or can't be understood the fact that they could connect at that level and have peace for a moment that that's what this is about yeah yeah and there is research out there but with music they have found with  using the intuitive he's he's really both that's what we really liked about the globe institute that's where really that's why we went there because we like the the philosophy he has about it but there is out there that shows that i just had to tell you one other little story about the mentally ill placed a residential home there was a lady there who had problems with her knees and she had some mental illness i don't know what her diagnosis was but i know she had some some problems i would fear every time and i do work on her and she was very aware very clear one time i got there and she was sitting in the front near the doorway not aware at all like in a state  of psychosis and i brought my stuff in and i set it up and i said to the director words so and so we're really you know she here yeah she's out front and so before i started her and i walked to the front to engage with this woman she was sitting in a chair by herself and she was very much out of it in a state and in a state like i just mentioned and i said that's ok let her go we don't have to bother her we went back into the room and i started the class we started to sound stuff we so i started to bowls all of a sudden she walked in the door and sat down has clear as anything as you can imagine and i thought to myself we didn't have to talk to her right we just had to give her the sound right and and she was as clear as anything and i said yeah i said hello to where she said hello to me she sat on  no i don't think they do i don't think they do i think in my class with when i was in the class i don't want to say they cater to musicians or you know mates not that they prefer they will be accepted people to be in the class to be sound healers sound therapists i don't believe you have to but i will say for me it was definitely a path where all of these pieces came together i never understood why why i graduated with a bachelor's degree and and social work why i had an interest to teach people i lead to be a teacher i went to be a teacher actually when i was in college and also for a short time why i was a professional musician and and why i was also in which here's the other piece that really when i thought about it being in the medical field and my business partner said to me you have the perfect background you've worked with patients for twenty five years you know how to work with people and it's true so it's amazing how for me i don't believe that all people need to be musicians i know a lot of people that they may work with bowls with people the nice thing about sound healing or healing with sound is is a lot of people who and i have a lot of people who are reiki people who are energy workers who are you know a lot of different fields because sound works is a great more value that works with a lot of different things out and so people who you know we do have a business our business a called healing sound experience which is the sound healing side of it and that and sound spark for duction is the music side of our business so you know i do we do have an online business and i do do shows where i do sell products to reiki people to the to get in touch with you and our state to enter our next show because we're going to go through some of this and talk about some of it if they want to get in touch with you how do they do that website yeah we do have a we and it is you know i am privileged to have a business partner who is very good technically i'm not saying that i'm not i am not but he's much better at it than me that's one of his high skills and he designed our website and it is healing sound e x p dot com ok we have if they want to get you personally should they do you email they can do email all actually all of the cds that we have produced and including ours is on the website also yeah yeah well it's awesome i think anyone watching this may want to know more you know potentially bring you in to work with