is that which is what john rogers that which is is presented by m s i the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to awakening the spiritual heart within each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual advisor of m s i  the founder and president of the institute for individual and world peace founder of the heartfelt foundation and other organizations dedicated to improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and he has been teaching and conducting seminars for many years right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about them as i  there are a lot of levels to discuss anything with anybody and here on this physical world we start discussing from now until you got there would never get discussed and so by that concept we eliminate a lot of things come down to more immediate things the long range goal course a soul transcendence and to realize god's presence in your life as a god by you're physically aware as you are who are standing there but you can't have it the way you are now or you'd have it the way you are now so means got to be some sort of fundamental radical change you've got to do something different than what you've done before none of this is abusive it's perceptive so the ways that we have commonly consciously look at life are our habitual responses and habitual responses all boil down to probably want to two words to describe our active in this world is called addictive behavior addictive behavior had to come out of something which is called our karma and the blueprint for the lifetime so comes the karma comes a blueprint comes into our body comes all the psychic and physical genetics and comes out and we're now into this world at the moment we come out by just that whole thing of this world  illusions and delusions here the grandeur that everybody wants to be great in the physical world how stupid you going to die be great in a spirit where you can enjoy it forever eternally boy commits that we come into patterns of behavior that are reinforced by our parents karmically and set up by us to do that karmically so we start to cry in bed at night that's probably karmic pattern now some people would say was that like instinct i go yeah yeah sure one who knows what karma is nobody it's the invisible sucker the moon you know one and i call it stupid stupid doesn't know so karma stupid and yet that's i'm still going to call it that because i can't really call it anything else and and make it work i could say you're under the law or under the gun that moment that the pattern starts and the moment the people start to give to your pattern now let's just hold that idea there's something to be said about taking a child away from its biological mother and father and having it raised by somebody else who is not connected genetically and psychic genetics to them and raise them within another pattern to create the fullest being possible i'm just saying let's look at that idea it doesn't scare me to look because if i've got to come into a radical look at my life i better look at how things might have been it could have been another way it's an intellectual exercise and so you take it upon yourself to say well what if i would have been raised in a black family that's very poor in south georgia and there was no wallpaper sometimes weren't walls to dig coal and to get winded how did i survive and how would i survive and take a look at how they do it could you survive pre sale well let's take a look at a fire or a drunk or a homeless person and those are not synonymous no these are these are just randomly put out purposefully but randomly and i had to live could i because i live on the streets of new york i mean most people walk down the subway or down the streets of new york because they're free to getting mugged and getting mugged is a terrible invasion of consciousness it's of it's a personal violation people have had that understand that it changes your perceptions from that moment on it's a radical thing that happened to you that can be used for your spiritual upliftment can be used for your spiritual uplift most of us use and against us all i hate that place so they did this they did that they should be place they should be killed that it either that or that we run it out until we now have another karmic pattern going a radical look as and how do i use this to my advantage right now i don't see when i just got raped i feel miserable i'm bleeding my god what if i have their baby what if i get aids what if i want to why i think all that well because it's possible it's also possible that you're not going to get the baby you're not going to get aids in salsa possible than a few days not let me sign that you're even invaded physically or yeah but that's not like you s likely having kids know what makes you think one shots going to do will be just my luck to get shabby just your luck you got a karmic flow working and you're just talking it into your existence there is this thing the says we get mugged because we draw the mugger to us and i don't know if you know but if you ever talk to some it's in the business a crime as a professional they'll tell you which people yeah i don't want to broadcast close down turn off all the lights inside like what's where i am right now turn all the lights back on again by the just mugging in the empty house what happens when a mugging they come up to you and they threaten you with the formidable weapon and they take away your ring your wallet your watch your money your credit cards and your total within a short period time call a couple weeks are going to have to replace the driver's license you can have all your credit cards cancel by one phone call to the register of your credit cards if you haven't done that don't be stupid if you in a credit card world have those things that's very make a phone call to go cry and they're all stop and you go down to the jewelry go that ring that i had to really need to go just to make me another one to prices have gone up so i know everything was taken last night so what are you going to do i'm going to do better than i did before because i know how i got here and i'm going to go here a lot faster she when you know somebody win against you in your mind they'll do this they'll do this they'll do this they'll do this and they haven't done anything don't do that to you can you disturb your presence it's a terrible thing to lose all your possessions in a hurricane or in a mugging or anyth terrible thing you're going to die and lose them all anyway so how terrible so there's a thing here called better start treating it with a little indifference now i'm a great one for those in credit cards i'm not saying don't lose them i misplace them i just do all thing so i have a backup set oh yeah i just look stupid i'm not always stupid i have another watch just about like this one home that this was tops goes dead it gets robbed take them as go home get the other one i brought it with me you can prepare yourself to a certain extent for a lot of things in this world you can prepare yourself to a certain extent for a lot of things this world but you can prepare to die you can rehearse the process but you can't rehearse the procedure that's a one time through it's a guaranteed performance winner you get to claim of there being a spring where the girls you made it you say i was scared to death i was going  to mean since you since you really don't die it's just the misery of the living that we've got to put up with and listen like some misery at times i get terror attacks i get panic attacks i get things i just put to my body react and i go what the hell is this i hear this is your destiny going i don't want to several days i don't want to be went to far for five o'clock running in the room going i can't breathe i don't want that next when i'm ok here i am i'm going i don't lose any weight so waste of time i'm going to exercise out of fear panic or terror what am i in the some just going to be a slob i'm going to be attacking this thing with some degree of awareness so i go to bed taking sleep trim i wake up the morning to take a week tri i'm on open milk for breakfast i'm on a lot of water and juices you understand why to do you have to take a radical approach these are radical approaches  i'm taking but if i'm going to take and where is your exemption card you don't get to rip up your draft card this year with the pacing you want and you're still in it but i said i'm willing to look to have more perceptive value out of my existence and it may become of more value to everybody else why because i tell everybody about it i'm a big mouth don't do anything with me i tell last time i had aquariums super of the road everything slanted towards the middle of the road guess what went down the middle of the road our feet in mark i used to say man that was you just help me do where i'm supposed to do it yes indeed help move here it comes because if i stop who knows a radical point of view we went out last night we had sushi place and they said here's some soup it's got all this is ice oh my god aquarium soup and we were going to get to i said i'm really hungry feet you have sit around table talk about small feelings but that's why you know holding the keys to travel culture that's got to be the only difference in this room and we talked about last night maybe we were in china now that's not what i generally do so if that sounds exciting to you just realize that was a radical thing but it gave us different perceptions to look and that was the value and the only reason to go do any of that with anybody i to gain perceptions from what they're looking at and to take their perceptions and value them not to necessarily say the right or the correct but to value them to see how do i use that myself how can i do that does that fit me anywhere can i maybe hold that aside i'm going to run into it tomorrow or the next day so you put in the reference part of your beingness the shows up you go all right so my reference point was twenty some years ago or fifteen does the same twenty that experience in spain as a long time ago it's right here i can tell it to you and give you the essence of the room and the sweetness of the little girl and that's all laughing at their list being finkel for first cinco and barcelona for barcelona and we were sitting there going like that's the time we're picking at i'm not on i'm adam until we realize everybody in the whole place is doing what we're  tourist and the tourist gets there trapped continuously and you're constantly getting out of the trap of somebody that set for you this planet is a tourist trap life after life you come back to vacation here time after time the same people go i saw them in the twelfth century will take me again set up this thing over here they really like sweet little things that come around and say well actually the things you go oh my god did you get a new job did you change you get a raise in pay why is it you can afford more you come in the last three or four times being a real slut what's wrong well i'm vacationing differently this year but it's so different now i realize i was  i'm on the other end i'm seen is what how does to use other people to get my money but then maybe we're all pimping we're using other people to get our money we're just not sexing them that's all or are we are we holding out something to them as a possibility unbeknownst to us maybe all the prostitutes are radically thinking in a quick perception because they're being upfront with what it's all about maybe that's why it's the called the oldest prostitute the oldest profession i saw the oldest pro of examples to open your mind to look because recently i was accused of giving person information without telling how to use it i tell you information you use it i don't send you here's how you do it that's yours but if i don't give the information you may not have the wit to look about how to do it and so i give the information and then you find out how do sometimes you tell somebody some information and they automatically know how to use it the windows are open i said just i would say it's really dust on the winds blowing a lot of dirt to say there were just some close the windows i never said close the windows they know how to use the information because they can experience their being  know how to respond we can update things that's really good let's get all the things that are on done stick out there floating around let's get them updated let's get him now why you can handle him now if you don't they round some place in your energy field and they bark at you in the by chair and pretty soon they bark you think you got bit the next time you see something like that you're bitten it was no bark and nothing happened now you do it to yourself don't do that one that's called crazy it's called psychiatrically insane don't do that one if the thing inside of it starts to bark and by that you so get out of here you know your dog is another neighbor's yard just get back over there and you have to take sometimes a real approach to it that's fine that's a radical approach if you're pro choice never been to do that if your approach eyes would you mind i have no dog bark all night long and that goes on the dogs been barking out for ten years you know what you do you start with ear plugs you start masking sandy start to turn music on against the wall or vibration so puts the the white sound in your room the way you want it then you learn to sleep on your side of the protection it's a radical approach it's the alternate approach the direct approach kill the dogs the alt thank god dog you barked now they say a dog is a man's best friend but it was spelt backwards might not be too far that's it b end you continually keep changing the flow of water from hot to cold and you sit there and it's amazing what it will do for your hemorrhoids amazing will do for everything else that you know this is this is a power center from like a fight to the belly button is a power center in us it's creativity in lumination and lust and joy and tension and excitement and get that energy flowing through then the blood going to you it really can do nice things for you  it's actually in a way it's almost like a natural indoor from high it's like running the first two or three times you run it's like hell because it hurts so bad but after about the fifteenth two thousand time running you really get hooked on it then one day will drain you can't run you go into endorphin withdrawal you start cribbing on everything you buy it on everything i do what cribbing is a horse does that they'll bite on something like this and then they lean back they pull back and it stretches out the mouth and just like that and then they go and they hold it and that things pop seems orphans loose inside of them so we train the horses we replace them we stroke the neck and give them a certain pat him on the forehead boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom releases endorphins and you walk when the horse goes i want to creep on you and they start to do what you want so what we tried get you hooked on the spirit same way really i mean we really are trying to get you to do that in a conscious awareness so you don't crib on people you're not supposed to crib on we don't bite on and try to get your high off somebody else or make them perform so you get high you do it yourself very nice my question has to do with my job recently i i'm a teacher and i really love an idea for my min i went to fight it and we won and my question to you is i was wondering if you could give me any advice in how to survive better in the workplace i have a lot of anxiety and fear and it's my clear intention to be there and i want to do it and i love being there that's not true if you had all that you would have been anxiety receive the words like it to be like that was someplace inside of you there's some places not loving and not clear the clear part is to remain with the students and want to be working with how can you meet the students they're going to move on at the end of each year the other stuff was your hype didn't work with me or i listen it's not negative hype it's just that you've said those things or people said oh yeah that's wonderful and they don't know what they were saying i want to know what are you saying you may have some radical information for me you know radical doesn't mean fastest or totalitarian it just means a very divergent different point of view than what i'm perpetually in the dicta be used to see you tell yourself the best information because you're the one the sitting in their father withholds and all the side are green and some disagreements and and rules and regulations are you not telling anybody so you really soon with all the information and i can do is address the part that you clipped up i dress the other part you don't slip up by how i go about it now but what i say i see what happened to you very simple you've got mugged by them when they fired you access to you instead of saying to you and that hurts and you just can't take it lying down and no pun intended on that nor can you have it attacked with a dead weapon and no pun intended on that is he had to stand up and say i have got to heal myself of this wound you will give to me and the way i'm going to heal myself is to correct it but you didn't let it go you still fight now we can go kill the dog or we can move our can you fight yourself sure to the whole the time that's where you got fear you're just losing that's why you have the fear the fear can come upon you and that could be energy to move my fear hits me i'm up and running it's got to hang on by time i get so tired is no way a place for it to settle down at last it but there's no real reason for fear there's no real source for it so i can't really deal with that i just have to deal for the show's up i'm put on a lot of things but most of it's reactive so i'm reacting unconsciously consciously my body whatever i'm aware that but that's not where i'm focused in the midst of the turmoil most drive i can still have joint happiness because he's real serious yeah but i don't want to be serious because that adds to the thing that i got i need something different and so i go to the radical extreme of joy and happiness in the midst of terror and fear and despair and balance of thing out pretty soon it leaves me and i go now i feel like i just got beat up inside with a baseball bat and i feel bruised inside like you might feel raped or mugged or fired and i have to get up every day anyway i get up with the oh god here comes right get up with here i go and it's always here i go because i don't know what comes now given they have other considerations i moved to a district that has a lot of money take my misery with me and hope to get fired again or pro choice maybe from some other kind of point of view you understand you have a lot of options but some of them are not desirable moves where down the hamptons i can't afford to live there you know drive in and out how far i don't know however far and how are things unnecessary  that's the mark because that's what it takes in this world this if you put something on it as like six weeks and that's it i put enough energy into it they don't get to hold them you still have it so there are six weeks to go here i go for another six weeks but i think i just d by day by day by day and give me a chance to close it up and hire me back at some point you must have with your students had somebody really look at figures those things figures were always there somebody didn't go print dollar bills in the basement put them in their budget fun the question is why would they withholding funds towards you in the progression of your students as that's really big question if something is worth doing stand up for you don't have to go got four o'clock i got to wake up and worship god i've been once in while might come on well we're unique and we want the people's attention to it's not your job not be science you've got to say your job is to draw people's attention to god you understand how this all works it's what you give over to them and what you permit and allow and what you create for them to do it with another this is called be mean or wrong henri but this call stand for it in your life and you don't have to be mean andrea do is justified i'm probably the example the people said thank god you've gone through what you've gone through intissar how you handle it and what you do as well to see if those people really were trying to get me there continues looking for a way to find fault with me so they do i correct it i got people out there like guardian angels to go do something rather god is going to do it i was but i'm not now time that can some people want to be a statue fine it's a monument of evolution i did once before four years later never do it again what progress is sit back and smile at him and you love yourself all the time because somebody's got to nobody can understand what happened inside but you no but you and you have a full time job of recovery we're always recovering from every day every one of us whether you think you do or you don't you are and some days it's real easy recovery some days man it's cause climb the mountain and when you don't get your way it's called you fall down the mountain and you don't want to climb back up and you have to in the meantime i'm laughing under that because i see the idiosyncrasies of it is so perfect here that i just get really excited about how perfection is really going to be i don't mean everything's all red or green and not moving and stable that's boring it's so nice here if you get bored there's somebody going to hit you in the head with the something or dogs going to  bark or something before too long and you're going to get old and one day going to retire and this will just be an incident not an e if it's just going to be incidental to your life why not have it there now and you take the radical approach and put it in its perspective this happened gee i want to question learn from that you learn how strong you can get they probably learned leave this lady alone next time to go to cut a c just don't touch her department they made us go into the reserve fund that we're all trying to get our pays out of cut the math department a little bit cut to that little bit when they go to yours it'll be fair because you'll seen where they trimmed off everything and then they trim yours and your time will be there when it's right you'll say no that's fair now i don't like it to say like it but you know it's fair and there's a peace that comes with that and that when you say it's fair it's when you feel inside and you know that's fair it's my point it's my time it's my thing it's fair yeah i beat upon you last night today use like me accidentally hurt me it's fair that i'm i understand that no hard feelings nothing and it's a really honest authentic statement that that's what  do and you can make authentic statements only from solar energy and from the soul you will see everybody's and what they go through their personality and then you see the fairness more and more  years ago somebody was working with us and i was talking to father and he was going to south america and i said how do you get through customs and he says well what i do is i take her she chocolates and i take them i put in my suitcase to let people have something to get something you understand it is called sharing you know sharing isn't always fifty fifty or eighty twenty sometimes it's very disproportionate it's still called sharing you're going to run into some of your karmas don't let them throw you stay purposeful to what you therefore stay true inside of you to the purpose that doesn't mean the restrictive and suppressive inside of you the way they are they're showing you what happens when you do that it's called the freedom but keep your eye on where you're going keep an eye and where you're going and everybody's going to try to distract you by all sorts of things they do turn around put your eyes back on where you're going that's a continuing process so the big key to all of this is just altitude up here see i don't see anybody differently because i just see most is tops  they're just absolutely no discrimination it's more important you talk you can have any subject matter doesn't matter but talk the energy it don't just walk gotta talk and then walk it and then do it together it's communion yourself permission to walk out of here with the four armor of god around you and in you that you really indeed you'll be walking down the street as god and his arm are not battling anybody but walking but you've got to find out what that is to know how you do that as a consistent thing not as an inspirational thing because sometimes inspiration stops then you go on guts then you go on determination go on stubbornness but you always can have the full armor on you that's going to be real freeing for you i think you'll find a lot of time the fears will just disappear because they won't be able to do much the their fears will come against you but they will actually be wasted very patient john rogers closing words where they shan't which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you've heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey of a soul call this number one eight hundred eight nine nine two six six five you can send e mail to service desk at m s i e dot o r gene or right to that which is post office box five one three nine three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one dash one nine three five this has been that which is with john roger thanks for joining us when we are aligning to the planet there are some places where you live and where we've gone through here and you may be walking in a mountain pass on a boat and feel like wow this is really a great place  this place is eep leading me quite to the contrary it's building up your energy it's bringing you down to a quiet place to build you up and those places of quiet you know are your places of spiritual regeneration can but if you can touch somebody just somehow just be in touch with somebody here and i just want to use this is an opportunity to remind us all that we are connected to something that's a lie that whoever you're touching is also live and receiving whatever it is you can give them so just take a moment to take a blessing from inside of you and if you didn't know there is one more just go ahead and be open that right now inside of you is a blessing that goes through to whoever you're touching and they also receive this blessing from you and it transmits  whoever we are connected to by our love and our light and just take a moment to have your mind  see who that might be i'm sure you're going to see someone who is familiar to you but also allow this to be someone who is not familiar to you that this is a blessing for all the lord god we ask that in this touch that we reach out to one another we also reach out to all those in the world or present on the planet this time into all the beings you have created and whatever for so we bless the human form but we also bless all the forms of life be the animal plant and the mineral kingdom as well that you are blessing this planet and all of its elements and we ask for your wisdom at this time where we want to balancing we are praying before you go to balance this planet you know we are connected in a won let us know this one ness and as we open our consciousness to the wisdom and the beauty of this one this let us go forward with new ideas we especially send a blessing to those they may be lifted your love may touch them now that we are holding for them united in a consciousness of the by all the names in all the ways you place your peace that we can live together in tranquility but there is a harmony as the purity where there is plenty on this earth so let us put back the resources and the life in the be earth and rebalance the energies that have been misused in any way long from now and whoever is present here to see this day we will look back upon those who are willing to sacrifice to put aside personal issues come into alignment with one purpose for this planet and we will live in grace and love and this planet will be dedicated to the consciousness of peace that one who holds that consciousness of peace so it shall reign in liberty and in truth that all our loved and cared for and all