his was awesome we're going to tell the story of their trip around the world how many times have you looked at an article in the new york times and you see a couple and their children pack everything up and travel around the world for a year i have and i have been dying to know how you do it and it's fascinating so we're here today in a two part segment to talk about it so welcome guys yeah i love it i mean we've worked together for many years been friends colleagues and one sunday told me that you guys were planning to do this and i i think i'm not even sure we talked about it beforehand i think we talked about it you know when you were in your first country yeah i was fascinated so i'm so thrilled that we get to tell the story today because i think a lot of people just in the nature of our work in being just stress down with really so many things that don't matter in life and love to hear the story of how you just get up and go learn right so ok so let's talk about what i think a lot of people want to know how in the world did you come to this decision oh ok it's like you said you know our world is were stressed were overwhelmed we have no time and yet we have so much time and everybody wants to travel i've always wanted to travel it's been on our agenda forever and we thought ok we can go to these countries it's so expensive we're family of five and you know the magic thing about google is you can find anything and everything so one day randomly i was you know i googled family that travels and there were exactly blogs after blogs of families that packed up their home they had children somewhere our kids if somebody younger and they still living in new jersey so we still had our we like to call it our box life yeah because everything had to be done according to some type of blueprint that was predesigned you needed the checklist in our check check check and so we were every action or everything we did was to tick off the boxes but in that i was slowly dying yeah we were dying as a couple i carolina which was the best thing we have or dead because it gave us time to recent or yeah it was just the five of us we didn't know anybody north carolina so it was interesting us went there kind of as a visit i say to so people are coming in go wing in the school system is different and it opened up my world to one homeschooling two year round schooling that there were so many different ways to learn yeah and teach and do things and  as a family where i didn't have that exposure here i just knew people that were doing the same thing that i was doing yeah yeah so then going to the thing was we were we thought about the world trip and then we put the the idea to the kids and my son was like no way so he want to do the schooling and he's older and he thought it was a half more i gather that's right yeah so then we put it on hold and then just one day i think a couple months later he said he's ready i d which opened up his wide spray and he had to get to the to the where he was he had used his pax past experiences on the travels we had done the summer before and so once he said yes there was nothing holding us back then my job my full time job was talking to homeschooling parents talking to the teachers figuring out how to do it and it turns out homeschooling is not as hard as we think and that's what i've been told i actually have some relatives and doesn't yeah yeah i actually ended up really enjoying it and i miss it right now yeah because we're home and the kids are in their two week vacation yeah but once we settle back i'm going to start again i don't want to learning through them grade the way that was really quite ok so you make this decision how do you how did you figure out that you could afford it i think that's got to be a big question on everyone's mind like how do we do this  much could it possibly cost us to do this yes i could probably take that moisture so we did it we did a budget so the first thing is we rent so it's good that we can pack up our place put it into storage so we obviously save so we do have that luxury that where there is nothing really tying us here right because i can do what i do from anywhere so that was the thing so then we kind of calculated how much maximum we could spend on a daily basis including hotel and food and activities and then you have and that number was probably thirty percent higher than what we normally would pay yeah house and everything yeah so that once we did those numbers and we said wow this is this is like we can we don't we always have the option to come out straight because the hardest part is dealing with people saying well i thought you wanted to what were you going to wait well right you want to have the pressure of trying to figure out what you want to do without worrying about what somebody else's opinion information and you know that's why people are i think wildly unhappy sometimes yeah they're not making the decision they're letting too much in you know and then coming from an indian household is probably a factor of two because what my mom especially we always worry about my mom yeah because she's worried about my kids getting the education that they're supposed to be getting right and that was our biggest thing you know i just think to myself what type of education that you can and you know if if if you look at it from before we decided this every person i met every person i talked to that was that has achieved something they've all either traveled because they were forced to travel or because if their dad was a diplomat or something or changing from countries or they travelled on their own that was the common factor was somebody getting outside of what they're comfortable with yeah where they go in searching out of that comfort zone because it's easy to fall into that and going back to  parents you know they crossed the ocean with literally nothing they barely knew the language and they built the american dream which is to have stability financial stability stability a house in the heart of things like cetera raise your children put them through school and now here we are with the american dream thing we're going to put it all to the side and build a new dream yeah and i think that was the hardest for his mother to and it still is for mom to  understand we still get a lot of questions about what about the children schooling they don't understand that there are so many different ways to learn yes and actually you tube is your friend you can learn everything and anything new to it is  there yeah absolutely if there was a concept that i didn't know something in math for my eleven year old would say ok go on you tube and figure it out and we'd figure it out together or so just like i can work from anywhere you can learn  i absolutely the world has changed drastically yeah yeah ok so logistically ok but logistically you get it in your head this is what we're doing going to put all my things in storage  financially here's how we're going to manage it so tell me about like the actual travel very i understand there is one backpack per person and a carry on rolling ok yes oh yes so the reason why i say there is a reason for that it's not just that you're travelling light yes it's when you're going on a plane or you go and you don't have a check in your bags and you you know obviously they can't lose your luggage drawers or anything nationally and european flights obviously charge you for something and you know you're traveling a lot on train we traveled a lot on trains lots of long long bus rides fourteen hour bus ride because it was one hundred euros for the five of us versus two hundred euro flight per games to get in there so clever and creative and coming up with games out of nothing our daughter made a chessboard out of the  mean because that is such a well obviously it's all about strategy yeah yeah i mean that's fantastic that it's a nice way to pass time when you're playing board games again things that you know we grew up doing  and me the three of us we would switch books you know and my favorite was how did you get to this chapter oh did you get to this and we would talk or the two younger ones the twelve year on the eight year old are doing the harry potter series ok everybody loves harry casting and i think our son is a huge harry potter fan so we knew we would see the little window giggling at a certain part and she was so engrossed in it those are the moments that i would have missed and mind you when we're just because i  having your day in your hands i think it was liberating and empowering so for the girls for example i would give them their you know their course or or their agenda for the day this now has to be done this has to be done and they could do it at their own pace and i think this practice you for life yes managing your time getting your work done finding a balance between work and play the little one would get stressed out all the time it in school before we left her teacher said she had a breakdown she was overwhelmed and that's life and you know accomplish yeah i think we feel the pressure but our children feel ten times more than we do i mean this digital and this social world and then our expectations it's a lot on their little felt a lot of social pressure in competition with the mothers and it just comes naturally a what is your child doing oh my child is doing this so you come home and your wife will sometimes child is doing this now you have to start this you know like the kids are like mom i don't want to do it it's the tiger mom yeah concept it's real yeah it's important and i think having parents that are invested in their children's education is very important we all are yeah but it's a fine balance between stepping back letting them discover yes and pushing them at the same time it is a very fine but we have to have that space yet to do that and more just push push push and we're feeling like you happy kids yeah that are successful that are happy is really the curiosity right so that's you know giving them the space and letting them explore them because you know the only way you can really learn is when you're curious right and saying figure it out within these boundaries yeah you know we spent a month in crappy thailand and it was amazing we wanted to scooters so some people be with the girls and my son and i we were on our scooter and it was my favorite because one where he drove me around everywhere and mind you it's seven dollars a day persecutor yes i was yes so i think traveling you can do it it is affordable but some of our favorite conversations were about let me listen to you and he said a few things that really struck me you know he's like a mom you listen to what i say but you don't hear what i say and was like i was dumbfounded by that comment yeah he was right i'm listening because i'm a good parent you know when i watched a lot of oprah yeah so i know but i wasn't hearing his words yeah and so it took a minute to step back and say ok now let me give you from my side as a mother times when i lecture you it's not so much about you it's about me to making sure i'm doing my job so it's a communication that really open tension back you're all looking at each other like where are we you know yeah it was funny just said that the girls have spent time with you know cousins and sisters and grandparents and my son is with his family and yesterday he said we have to go pick them up i miss them and it was only four it's only been forty that he's been away just like i'm in love because i for the three hundred sixty five days that we were gone i gave up i give the same lecture every day about you know just the things that i think are important so i just really something and how do you get good at something is you do it every single day whatever it is right because jerry seinfeld this is my favorite thing to tell is somebody asked jerry seinfeld how did you become such a great writer right so he says i sit down and put a big calendar on the wall so i write for a couple hours and then i put a big red x right so he says you your next job is basically to to do that every day and keep putting that x right of research and after some time you will see a change for me to your next job is not to break that chain right so you just keep writing keep writing keep writing so that's what i was i make i make sure that they get really good at something and opportunities will come you know that was that's really my my one thing and then everything else is kind of based on that yeah and it's really about what's another one dreaming dream big have dreams people should laugh at your dreams yeah like what if we were to say we're traveling around the world day yeah and you still drill these little bits hopefully something gets in there and i seen a huge change in that and then my thing is let them see let them see you fail let them see you rise let them see you work  nobody wants to hear words nobody follows or does the industry yeah it's watching you and let's take for example the reading i love to read and it was so wonderful to get lost in books and have the time to get lost and conspires to make things happen to for you so if you dream it if you wanted everything will work but if you don't dream it if you don't see it yeah it will happen right before that and you don't speak it not easy but it can be so easy we make it difficult right obstacles are a part of life and you can look at it one of two ways as in it's an omen don't do it or it's a lesson to be learned right  and i think this journey has taught us that everything is a lesson yet everything happens because we're meant to learn it and it will help us on that next part one of my favorite quotes life happens for you not you y reason as more of my own private or personal discovery you know and then as a mother yeah you know my job is to learn about myself so that my children can  yes i know that they are limitless right right oh yes of that i think for me personally that's the one thing that i got out of it so i would be put in my ten thousand hours right and what i do on a daily basis right so but i'm not fully confident  when we went on this trip i realized that i have no magic i can do anything i have to go like this so when i see my kids i guess because i got magic in my fingers i can make it happen you tell me what you can do i can make it happen so that's what this year long journey has really taught was hey you can do anything you know and there's nobody that can you know pull you down or anything i really believe that now after after this years that i can do anything yeah yeah yeah well you ventured out yeah for me it was my thing was let's get that ticket let's buy that ticket to cross the pond yeah and once we're there to figure it out and there's a one way ticket you know hate on we took a one way ticket and we bobbed around and we just let we let it happen organically so i had a high level plan based on who tell bookings but it changed it change and evolved as we went in so you didn't know about the whole thing up from now i've got a lot of blogs so i that i love to learn and i'm not necessarily good at anything but the fact that i want to learn and know about everything is what defines me yes so when we were traveling  for example the sofa and i wanted to know how it was made so i could appreciate it you know in today's world we don't know where food comes from i was blown away when we were in provides and we stated a bed and breakfast and our host had a carton i've never seen onion grab i was blown away yes and then we picked the garlic to eat from it it was wild the girls were in heaven i was like this is sage and rosemary i've never seen it except in containers in the grocery store  or even fabrics how they're died how they're made how it was just it was mind blowing to learn how things are made carpets are woven the amount of work that goes into it so when i think something i see somebody is hard work and labor and there's a new level of appreciation in that as you know bargaining and looking for the cheapest rate you know but yeah i think having insight into almost it's its history its origin that was hand me and the guy who made it was that you just whatever price now gives you back ok you know you have to bargain for the sake of bargaining yeah but in your mind you know you're going to pay the price and care for them right yes yes because you want these arts to carry through we don't want them dying and unfortunately this is what's happening yeah they are dying and if you look at how much effort and hours they put in there definitely losing tons of money because they don't value the time right so that's when they're not even doing it over here and we're going to continue the