from around the planet here is that which is with john roger that which as is presented by emptiness i hate the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to the awakening of the spiritual heart within each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual advis a the founder and president of the institute for individual and world peace and other organizations for the purpose of improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and he has been teaching and conducting seminars for many years the seminars entitled pieces present excerpts from maintaining loving right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about the movement upset about that peace is still present if you care to be angry bill your stack piece is still present and it's just allowing you your expression so if you decide to express pieces present it's an isolated cooperation with you already so even though there is like a violent situation going on if we did not have a reference of peace we would not know the violence so if we had we have anger the way we know anger as such is there is a reference of peace there also so we c angry in a peaceful way and have the results physically and behaviorally show peace even though there is tremendous anger about sometimes the anger comes up to and then they turn around look back at you to see if they're getting away with it and you run into the car you will be very very angry at them because they put themself into jeopardy and you'll also be angry at the driver of the car because they're the driver of the car it doesn't matter who they are and so that loud terrifying cry of stop and then anger can change many things and it does not have a lack of peace in there and sometimes anger is the extremely powerful weapon of self protection against somebody who is out of control and is trying to be violent toward situational behavior and some people who just see that little slice out of your life says she fights everything they're just seeing one little bit of your life or you say that was the first and only time that i've ever been angry like that but when it came up it astounded you of the power of anger when it's used correctly it's it will disperse itself when it's used i mean if i would work on my anger and i'm just angry angry angry angry that's what i'm going to have i want to work on my anger i stop doing anger and start going towards something else something is peaceful are empathetic or compassionate and that works out the anger by not participating in it sounds like fighting for peace has got to be you know one of the dumb things going and yeah people don't want to fight for peace they want to fight for somebody else it's not a peaceful action that's going on a ball it's one of commanding controlling getting them to obey and do things your particular way at the point of death and some people will take death saying ok kill me but if somebody came in a said i'm going to shoot you or your children what would you do and i would immediately ask him who will take care of my children when i'm gone and i would put the question back on that person and i say would you please see that they're taken care of and i put more responsibility back on that one says well maybe it's best that you take care of him saying i really appreciate that can i fix something to eat peace is present you react well don't kill my kids kill me you told him kill me and i would suggest anybody do that just ask you what will you do with my children you have said kill me you've just asked him what he's going to do with them so that he senses the responsibility of what his actions will be before he doesn't and i think you can get them to turn the good by the west and good negotiation tactics to and of course you might say i don't care what happens to kids i'm killing you now well you know it's like your karma just ran over your dog and then i do is give it up anyway i give it up peacefully so that you don't have to be hung back in the here we're now starting to come into the wisdoms of behavior and getting along and letting somebody who has an issue have the issue till they're through with it this is picking up their issue and then giving it to somebody else like a domino effect we're taking the domino out so when he gets there stops in other words when negativity gets to me it stops i don't pass  put light in on it or take that domino out and some people think i'm going to maybe perpetuate a motion and i don't they are really upset with me that i want to because they also think they're righteously right and if they are it doesn't need my help and if they're not they don't need my help and it's true that the media see there's a couple questions we have to ask ourself is there more violence now than there was fifty years ago the answer is debatable because a lot of things happen one is we want to know what the percentage is because we're not about six billion people on the planet were fifty years ago were around five so percentage wise is going to be more of a lot of everything second big question is we have better ways now of reporting things to a mass media group of people than we ever had fifty years ago so maybe it's just better reporting mechanisms that we have and there's really no more percentage wise more violence to anybody people say is more crime scene i don't know there's just better ways of catching and reporting so i don't think you just say well there's more because there's appears to be more and one thing is we know that excitement and sensations what we look for here on the planet and that's what the media presents to us we're going to have one hell of a fire and you say what do you want a fire nothing you take away everything that can burn it will go out and i think that we as individuals can walk by the munition factories and not choose to participate in it and it will close the self down to a lack of financial ability as we've all to the next step of choosing a higher way of being in relating with each other and there's a whole bunch of people that are running their their lives and everybody else's by dollars and they really don't care who we are as a conscious level people as individuals the spiritual beings as people being allowed choices because we're going to learn from our choices good or bad but if we don't have the choices we have stopped the learning and we're here to learn so if we make mistakes and buy guns and somebody gets killed believe me there's a strange karma in there that is prevailing that those people would have done some other way but we're also self teachers to each other by our own violence we teach others not to be that way but what we're doing is people are running away from the violence in in such horrific agony and using horrific terms when we really might not know that maybe this is just desserts coming upon people and they just balanced out all their karma  the if that's taken place we might go my god how thankful we are that they finished all that it's over with and now they're on to the greater glory of learning and teaching so what we want to do is make sure that we are learning through the right presentation in the correct presentation of information and not that we recoil and rebel against those who are in the three to put things on us because that recurring rebelling does not present peace so being prepared and knowing the process is an issues of peace and loves you to recognize it when they appear and suggest gentle approaches to move through them to a process so there's no one has to be forced into exceptions of anything we just recognize what is available and move towards it doesn't mean we're give a d there it just means we're moving towards  my question or ask for help because the consciousness of peace with all that warring how do we hold to that in a better way or karma is fulfilling itself and it isn't necessarily a peaceful process because it goes against the personality ego not the spiritual ego that's who i am is the spiritual ego as soon as we sin in the i am consciousness doing see that all this is working out perfectly so there's nothing to fear but the fear itself and it's real as we manifest it inside of us it becomes real but it's not realize here in the world but if you get with the group that is rioting and there's fear you'll pick up the fear in that writhing so one thing is don't join a riot or a rock throwing team strike god did preemptive strikes all through the bible a lot of the people that prosecuted the jews in auschwitz and other torture tamps during w one and two they're coming back into being prosecuted by everybody around them it's just balancing the scales it's like did you learn to look so far like well not really so there's not going to be the earth being pulled up as much as is going to be a lot of people coming back to redo what they didn't do and that that's going to come out of what ten percent level you're dealing now or not dealing with you have to look at all the karmic ramifications that are coming down with everybody and lot of the people who are doing peace processing are trying to impose their of peace upon other people and that's an aggressive action i mean people have to really be educated towards peace gotta start out with very simple concepts that you do love one another now liking is more of a familiar basis a member guy in new york city drove a taxi to pick me up at the airport often and he'd say we were we would talk about various things he said you know i know people love me because they tell me that but do they like me do with they take me out to lunch with him would they have breakfast with me i said probably not  and it's just an education the last time i talked to him he just understood that you don't have to like everything that you love and mostly that boils down to what is their behavior because it's very easy to say i love you my mom used to tell us a story about a little nellie and little nancy and the other would say i love you mommy and go out to play and little nancy scene and help mama with the washing the floor and the dishes who love mama the most and you sit there and look at us like well the one that helped and took the strain off mama really but the other little girl said i love you mommy seeing start to sit and debate the issue so we just reduced down to watch the behavior and you'll see what the answer is and that's all we're doing now and in the world wide peace there's wars all over the planet i mean still the margins of the mccoys that they will come to it that's an education in an action of holding up the energy field of peace for them to get acquainted and like that and with peace comes something that we can understand it's a joy we don't necessarily jump up and click our heels but whatever anybody says it just doesn't get into us and they get it way we hear it and we hear best their story and they're i theirs and we don't save anybody because that's not our job we share we give them information make teachings available to urge them to participate because we know it works so we wouldn't be teaching it i tell people this work for me i don't know if it works for you you've got to try to see so the responsibility is back to everybody's being spons in the spirit world standing up and holding lines of energy against negativity and the negativity is breaking through so no one good goes into that line until they're ready to hold the line like each person can hold it for the whole group and you get a thousand those lined up they're not coming through so down here we will often feel the struggle of the spirit and the struggle is really is the spirit versus the flesh and the flesh will be the ego and the spirit will be the soul so there can be conflict there and it causes personal stress and we say well i don't do anything to stress me out like it's being done side of you when that is like stop her slows down it gets changed you see god less stress you know i'm tired my back aches my legs ache it's time to go to one of the wage you're going to have peace is to commit yourself to a process of peace not a situation of peace because that's stagnant and won't last it's going to corrupt and decay but a but a process of that resay we're together we're going down well if you're on a boat and you're sitting down the colorado river it will be  very peaceful and you lay back and get a nice good sunburn and nothing flat and then the rapids appear and out of peace comes chaos and you hit the rapids and you're hanging on and you're wondering in god's name did you ever come on here and why did you allow them to let you come here and why did they take your money and you can't breathe underwater anyway and you can't swim and you go through all of the what you can't do which is chaos and then it moves out into still smooth water and you look back at it and you go well that wasn't so bad yeah i made that i'm really good and you can move back into peace long again until the water descends again it's really a good metaphor for this life's existence almost put it on any situation and you say this time when it goes peaceful then this disruption of if you just look at those rapids moving you from one level to another and keep your eye on where you're going and in the sense of the word hang on to your sanity where you are then you're going to find out it's going to smooth right out we've talked about pieces being just against us just stop being against someone but what if you don't like them and you're in trouble with them and you're having work relationships with them quit just quit the job well what would i do after i quit look around in the newspaper and find another job get a secure then quit or whatever doesn't pay as much you're going to have to give up something of the chaos to have the peace and maybe given up a little bit on the financial side maybe you're getting more money but you're working a few hours longer this compromise is in a sense the word part of  around you to do or not do whatever it is that's going on that suffering sacrifice is when you've entered into something holy something that is sacred something that's beautiful wants from us a sense of obedience not the rebellion against someone to follow something else but the obedience to the word of god inside of us where we do know and we know better and we will do better tomorrow that most things are called far in the right now when you don't have preparation we have to watch the whole use of how we're going to sacrifice know says that out of chaos comes life comes the beginning out of the formless and the void you can't get something out of nothing just as an idea if there's chaos in the void and in the spirit and you can't see it it does mean that you can still get stuff out of that you know we call that karma and when you're in a karmic flow they chaos around you is remarkable you may walk through a street where people are killing each other left and right and you think you're going to go next but your karma doesn't allow you to do that but you die so many times on the way through it that they might just as well killed you and you get the other side and you feel guilty that you're done wit lives and the others why didn't you go out of all the others and this was saying watch out you're going off into insanity crazy to be god i just went through a  flow i'm on the other side and they all died and then i wonder how important whatever that was the dog happened that way the of things happening spiritually and into the world are remarkable maybe all of us finding the peace and it isn't finding it here or here but the whole being this comes into it and it's practice in the presence of peace what would peace feel like you know for a while it'll just because i'm still in stagnant and underneath starts type of happiness and the joy and it comes up in a way that is i don't want to call it methodical nor routine but a very very predictable and it comes up and it is intuition and it comes up and there's a joy in it but there's a peace in it because it keeps things in balance in harmony and in retrospect and now we do is flow right with them just to keep flowing does that mean will be perfect that doesn't have made the do it people in the audience who have specialties of their life will say well you don't have this in your consciousness or you don't have this in your your teeth or you don't have this new music or you don't have that that's fine that's just stuff out there some people say well you're not peaches to get high blood pressure yes because i got a small kidney oh i never knew that yeah but you're reading that jump on it why do you just not jump on it always see because i know this information no you don't know the information you just think you know because if you know it you embody it and you start to walk with peace when we leave here today you have a chance to see or that are going to be at peace they're going to jump and kick at each other and then there's going to be peace and all they're doing is making sure the space around them is kept secure the way they want it kept and it's very fun to watch them do it and if that's more of a threat than it is a real action but if you don't want to get kicked by a horse down far enough back ribs legs can't reach you and if you don't want to get bit stand face them saying see which way they're going and if you think that you can walk up to him just touch him anywhere you want to this place isn't there even though there's been like activity around there's still been the peace i think that's really what's important see i never think for a moment that peace does not have activity and it has various forms of activity in it it does not have against to have suffering a sacrifice yes how about against us no that's not peace that's war it can have for us in it i'm for this and this and this robert is people don't like that right but least they know where i stand and they're honoring it by leave me alone and i'm leaving them alone and we still have peace if we're really going to want to or in what could that be that you have realities of heaven is creativity conscious creativity this means unexplored potential never ending growth ongoing doing fulfilling creating sharing somebody may call it negative of somebodies creating something exactly opposite than what they're creating but to that be declaring there's positive in order to declare somebody else is negative but they just declare creating other person dick just declares that creating a new let people create what is is and what isn't isn't and there's boot room for all of it see i don't look at negativity like a lot of people do but i see it as polarizing where there's opposites but i can never really damn one of the opposite because i'm not sure which is north and south or east or west because of circles so the part that i call east and west as soon as i change i just damned east now i'm in the east functionally it's stupid to do that but it's not stupid to realize that things are at different ends of a spectrum i would imagine the few bring your energy into impeccability and each one did that you'd all be in one accord as soon as somebody diversifies off into their own position of negativity or ego ms that truly exists or it can't take place so it's then recognize in the existence of somebody in discord and saying if you can do that then someplace within the spirit that's ok and so that's fine with me and my want to core doesn't allow participation in yours so you just move away so they can do theirs and do your someplace else and if they keep following you with their discord like the mission is to destroy you you just make your mission so pure with so many more people that if you're destroyed your mission goes on says person they get the point how do i kill ten million people somebody in the one a chord will turn a disk or doom in and so you have to do nothing it's water seeking its own level its junk seeking sewer seeking its own level it just gravitates to its level and you just sit and look at it because if it's allowed in spirit and it's ok if you so far there's only one thing that's not being allowed in spirit at this point that's gravity changing well we're all still here they're allowing us to overcome gravity to propose but not just by natural flow so it must be ok that all people have all their experiences with all the levels of consciousness because it's being primitives allowed and if it's not allowed there's nothing for me to say about it because spirit will stop it like gravity so far the lord of creation says you're still choosing and the first noticed choose wisely not choose eager weekly not choose emotionally not choose mentally but maybe go to all those to get your information and then take it to god and say god if you're choosing what would you choose and then take that choice because that's going to be the eternal choice are going to find that they will not be used as channels of blight life spiritually people will not be thanking them for being in their life and they will start to then have to revaluate what they thought was spiritual ourselves through our own spiritual direction there will be those people that i call the petty tyrants who come at you on your control patterns in your attachment issues and beat you with them until you just say here take it and go now jesus said something very simple like that in the bible if somebody would take your jacket also give me your cloak what he's saying is don't hang around with those people give it to  and get away and go your own way but he also said try to make peace with them if that's possible and to me the only way i can make peace with anyone out there is that i have to know them in here and if i have been here the great struggle is not out there it's here in my heart where i will decide what i will do with anything any issues of any kind so in here is where i will decide everything about me and everything about you inside of me and everything out there is your ten percent what you do is yours you're free and in the same thing i take that same freedom to myself and my ten percent what i don't ask you questions on i will not answer the same questions for you if i feel like it  there was i'm free to do that just as i am free inside of me to think what i think as good or bad as i want to think it my know that thinking bad so it's a negative boogy feels the spiral turns the other way and you feel oh you're going down so a positive thinking reverses spiral field or not you come again so if you'll bring it out why not just keep it out and part of that is often a visual process of what you're looking at not perception of what you're seeing but what you're looking at that as you look at something you start to move towards that and the looking produces an action of emotion and that emotion produces attachment it's i invested myself in that i feel and you hear all of those emotionally charged words which are extremely manipulative to people that are looking for something of a greater light wood to themself an that's done that knows the way you knock somebody off their passes charge their words that they use that they value in they get to vittie so then you feel like i can't use that word because that's negative example many of the people of the jewish faith have condemned the word jesus christ was not to be uttered in their houses there was somebody of the jewish faith comes into a group like this and we use lot of words interchangeably they go t shock therapy of that word but if you say you know isaac jacob moses abraham they go oh well sure i heard that a lot therefore it's for me here but the thing is it was for me and didn't same thing of seeing out here in attaching when you turn it in and you see christ within your attached also so there's good news and bad news it depends on which way are you going i would go out try to make peace with you if i had issues with you inside of me i would settle inside of me and be surprising how i would just walk up to you forgot that we had an issue and treat you like a friend and you go what is this you know we had this big fight a month ago we haven't talked for months and you treat me like we were a month before that there's peace with me and you in me there may never really be peace out here because we may just be politically different but our heads on political ideals we may be religiously format differently genetically whatever and i'll know that my relationship with you is going to be butting heads together often but i've made peace with that so therefore it's called over time you've got about my head i decide and let you fight air you may have all sorts of issues with me and i have none with you but then the demons that we have to battle first of those in our own head for we battle the demons out  there constantly been exorcised ourself of those things and life becomes easier each one of us represents a very interesting and it's really rather a profound idea and one leave this idea with us or close each one of you individually is a place of peace and if you choose to be in a place of peace and you must make a choice called there is disruption of earthquake hit here we go is to kill me go be in a pace of peace why because being hysterical will not stop an earthquake what we want our cool calm minds to say airbase stand up and walk through the doors to a safer place even if it's shak when somebody starts to yell scream what you choose to be a place of peace we have to practice that so we get in places that are peaceful to keep bringing ourself back to back to peace back to peace and the negative things in the world can prove flecked back to the peace one day and that's not too far in the future the prince of peace will be there also and you will recognize that your place of peace and the princes place of peace are all the same then we have the gathering of the peacemakers but it will be the peace doers and the peace livers it will be not necessarily a quiet somber place it could be ecstatic with giggles on laughter it may be fraught with activity but it will not be the morbidness of the existence that we don't like think of the good you want for others take it to yourself first what would you tell somebody else to do in your situation of disturbance take a glass of water sit down breathe in breathe out start to balance your energy field then do that immediately and after you've drunk the water and you're sitting down your b energy field the next step is going to come forward i need some good intertainment try the mirror no that's too hard get somebody else go to a movie go to a depth see a mountain look at a river look at t t isn't just entertainment in the eye of the beholder as is beauty walking in to get something the say no this feeling i have of just got to have food am going to relax with that and let that just be now i am losing weight and i am peaceful with that and you may get up and walk around the block real fast that is not anti peace of against us i am talking about the peace of foregoing some to go towards the peace of living and loving and learning and growing and growing we all know has got some pains in it but it doesn't mean you still can't be peaceful with the pain if you have any idea how many seminars that i have conducted with severe severe pain in my body would amaze you you say well gee are you never let on what difference would that develop i've often told people i got a real bad headache and they go you can't have it you're not doing all the things that bad headache should do what am i supposed to do lie on the floor throw temper tantrum or continue on until i outlasted you also where do you like this or not we'll continue on you will endure to the end you will outlast it peace will prevail at the end and so peace will prevail at the beginning and in the place where we are now peace is going to began on earth it's got to begin with me and you and what we do and that is not to throw away figuring out how to work things better doesn't discard any of the realities of life and growing it encompasses the method by which you're going to do it in a peaceful way and that mean there's not excitement and drama no peace has that in there we must make peace profitable as we have made everything seem to be profitable when that's done  really really really will be a place of peace irish bush john rogers closing words were they shan't which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey of a soul call this number one eight hundred eight nine two six six five you can send an e mail to service desk at m s i a dot o r gene or write to that which is post office box five one three one three five plus angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one dash one one three five this has been that which is what john rogers thanks for joining us them to respect donna them but that doesn't mean to be subservient to them nor does it mean to be equal to him means that you respect them for what they do for wh was not loving enough here before we make more this simple is that and how do we make more return to our spirit as it's infinite supply and that it has poured through to everybody the fish business paradise here and we don't know father mother god we ask in your presence to bless this land we know first this blessing comes to each one of us thanks for the shelter that we have we asked yours to go through all upon the planet that we may be more willing to share all that is provided to the cold