and i think for me it's walking in france because i love the alleys there's usually little shops office and there's people home they are  i guess it's not necessarily like a one standalone experience it's just the feel of the alleys that they feel like they are walkways for this alley i think definitely to have more shops not in terms of high end retail shops necessarily but more coffee shop more places where people can come together as a community and hang out or study because i think that that's when i think the cement the community and makes the alleyways viable here i would say currently scary i'd say most of them i wouldn't want to walk down so it's nice to find an alley like this one that does have some shops open where you feel use something like this project where you use it for cafes in interaction with people where it's developed so it gets a lot of traffic and it's safe and  there's nothing except that i hope this project really goes because you know the reason that the alleys are so dangerous is because they're abandoned and so they go up with all kinds of trouble and trash and there's no reason that we can't use them it's beautiful  well i think outdoor sitting in eating like just like we have here is is just perfect or is it a utilitarian type of thoroughfare yeah like really haven't noticed these anywhere else for their utilitarian purposes and other places where there is alley there may be something like this a cafe or know this is quite lovely future of more than one word i hope ok in the future i'd love to see i'm well lit clean pedestrian thoroughfares that people can walk up and down the alleys and feel safe about it ad like to see small businesses on the alley more businesses like the one behind us and in front of me allegro and pizza place here are just overall overall my favorite alley experience to be probably in europe where i walk down the alley with my family in at night time and felt very comfortable and saw many shops and many little bars and has had more people walking up and down it for twenty five years that i've been here than the sidewalk diversity it's a great place to park a bike there right now they're a little bit dirty i think that's pretty much but i'm sure you've heard that a lot alleyway this is pretty cool it's cool to come out here and see a lot of people who you don't normally see in the neighborhood hanging around playing music doing our work and things like that i think this would be a pretty nice experience to have more often in the alleyways more permanent yeah that to become community building community gathering places where people linger and have a cup of coffee or a glass of wine or a joy arch or music or dance or at home or get involved in big debate or are or very i think my one of my favorite alley experiences was in japan and it was an accidental stumbling on an alley that literally took my breath away because it was it was planted on on both sides of the alley and had a little stream which was really nothing more than just a little gutter with so unlike took like that we are the losers little things like this with this guy playing music that would be great to have you know musicians around maybe have a musical walkway would be nice to see more greenery here that last year we went to new york and we walked down the high line walkway which is kind of alley like it's kind of a repurposed area and it was just a lovely walk it was you know they've done very nice green things with an area that was formerly pretty red in town and that's really important big fan of well i actually volunteered right up there and the people harm reduction alliance for quite for a few years and so i would come to this alleyway every every week and it was great we had to sit out sometimes we'd have a barbecue i also knew this alley before it was an alley you know the beautiful i guess it was beautiful but it was a parking lot and you could sit upstairs in the cafe and look out over the you dip campus and you got some lights and so it's very pleasant go on don't worry about it i'll explain later not hiding marijuana spend a little time to sit down to have a cup of coffee and to talk to other people were home i mean i'm native so yeah like this where i live that i mean to some people i can see how my seem like they're kind of gross honestly but i mean they're also there's like i don't know if it's like a law a law like very the warm wall where people sign their names in the dust of the outgoing hot air in an alley down on forty first