from los angeles california we bring you that which has that which is his presented by john rogers the founder and spiritual director of an ass i say the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to his seminars and titled honoring the beloved right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you contain more information about the move when we were going to do this evening i say we not need them but we terms of the editorial we john my friend came up and said i want to ask you a favor i said sure he said i don't want you to look into anything we're doing part would be easy by the next morning i'd forgotten what i'd even said the day before so i didn't i wasn't sure that said i promise to do it or if i would do it but i am surprised in that level where i have seven tried to get me to do it i said no i had major surgery they tried it that way fifty eight they said no i'll do it myself no i had more major surgery and i came out screaming yelling they said ok sixty some part of me had an inkling about it do you ever get the idea that there's something in store for you and it's got to be more than what you're doing but you don't know really what it is i had that in if i would have known what it was out of died but i've talked about most of the years because they were first and foremost my real good friend and then secondly they were my parents but they were very good parents to ask you about something you mother did to me a long time ago and he hit the brakes on that truck and it's good to the side aim it is a drop off we're on a ridge ten thousand feet near the first drop would be about three thousand and i looked out the window on my side was over space and i looked at him look back lisa's got kind of close to it didn't you he said something like this however your mother and i treated you that's what we did and if you don't like how we did it you're smart enough to change inside of you i thought ok dad and i changed it it was amazing thing i forgive forgave myself for them being my parents i forgave myself for being this some and we did into friendship and from that time on it was good times bad times in between times and we just were going to be friends i found it amazing that my folks honored me and i found the equally amazing that because you're all of who's there i'm asked to have my parents over the years i got a lot of mothers and fathers many are here tonight and lot of you know who they are because they've been very prominent my life shaping me teaching me cultural differences because i had a lot to learn i knew i knew about cows and horses and pigs and chiefs and  but i didn't know about a lot of ethnic differences and cultural differences in the world so i would always bring someone forward to teach me and i would sit and grill them for long periods of time how about this how about this how about this how about this how about this how about that in my head to get a crash course very fast and i had traveled a lot of places to find out what was just what isn't there what was that i knew the information would be valuable later on but i didn't know exactly how valuable it was never going to be told and i had went through a lot of experiences not sit and look at myself in the mirror and say why did you do it for five ten fifteen years later somebody come down the road with the problem and i had already had experienced my said i already had your experience this is for you and i found out i had many experiences for many people in when they showed up i would tell it to them in that i had had the experience rang very true inside of them and one person really i thought was pretty good one person sent me a very straight took one look at me said well if you got where you got you did that and i can do it real easy and so i became kambal by the mere fact that i had to crawl a long way to stand up but once i stood up it was very easy to fall down many times i the traveler consciousness would be a sign of absolute perfection and it was it just isn't here then i started seeing on raveling other people  talk to somebody not see that consciousness come up inside and i go wow something would connect and i started on a ring that spirit and people start seeing other crazy till they worked on you or you work them and you go alas not crazy that's practical the levels you're going to go into will be crazy levels you're on a very practical you're teaching it to people who are coming up as your students you have to be very very crazy to see the face of god takes a lot of courage takes a lot of physical emotional mental courage because i've traveled places where we had death threats and if i showed up i would be shot or bombed or whatever we wore flak jackets and our suits once in new york city because of death threat they show up rather regularly around me and i never shared that with many peep because people get concerned that i get hurt i have the same concern it's very difficult to live around a person like me because i don't know what i'm going to do next i gave seminars for years to hear what would be sa to go home and listen back to my tapes watch my video tapes remember the first time you heard your voice on a tape recorder you said not me i don't like your friends say you sound just like that you think new friends new friends what was miserable was when they started videotaping it and i said  and then i went to work attempting to correct a lot of things some things you don't correct you endured to d m and that's when i came up with he wins who endures to d m and that was an experience that i hope is coming close to the end  while we were talking about audiotapes and videotapes discourses people were getting them around the country in their writing back saying can you clarify this so i started answers to people it was amazing how they drive back and say that was exactly what happened when i got your letter three or four days later it told me exactly what would happen and i did exactly what was in there how did that happen i said well there's a spirit that connects us all informs us all what's going on that is what i honor in people i think we sometimes honor the wrong thing is if we're honoring my physical body i'd say no that's wrong if we're doing it for motions or mental reason i say no that's wrong if we're honoring the spirit of the occasion when i say that's ok as long as that occasion takes and everybody in the room and on the street and in the hotel and all of beverly hills in los angeles and then sweep around the world then i think this time of year that it's really important that we honor that that has on or inside of all of us and that's the christ in i think we should take to heart the real value of that no i'm not a person gets hung up on a word and so i've called it the breath of life the holy spirit we could call it a tra buddha jesus whatever it is inside of you that rings with that same resonance that was what i'm honoring that's what i would like you to honor to me to everybody else show you my in the power of love those hours that is us i've never want to do anybody to be like me or to do like me because when they made me they broke the mold and really made you they broke the mold and so the movement of spiritual awareness was that and you know never in my wildest imagination does i think there would be a group of people i thought there would be a lot of people in many groups but not a group of people but i didn't want a following and people say do this and i don't know and i'm not a joiner i'm not a follower i'm not a leader i'm just doing this work and do spiritual a s soul transcendence i do it with i'm with you or not with you you just ask that's fine i don't don't bother me every time i've said something like that i would go do some more so i used to say i don't need another job and i'd get another job and i job so i go late on the list to see what it's all about i mean if i'm a target for the day list see where we go from here and sort of let up so i thought i got it wired and i got another job is one thing you don't get wired is the spirit all of us in here represent a different spirit physically honor and that means there are people in here that are different skin colors and we honor that because it's part of the spirit speak different languages and we honor that regardless of race creed color situation circumstance or an environment and we honor all of that and what that means no one can sit in judgment if i judge any part my emotions my thinking my presentation because i'm going to keep improving it all the time at your expense at my expense material i would  you do the same thing remember years ago and i said let your ten percent level you handle that what you do there's red sox white sox you decide what you wear you decide what you do at  and i take the same privilege to myself my ten percent level i'll decide the sox i wear the shoes i'll decide what i do and i'll tell you if i feel like it and i won't if i don't and you have exactly the same i ask you how are you  general principles just in the general principle you want to bring up steady of quiet because in the temper sent level is where we're going to make so many mistakes in growing and learning and we're sold down to the of opinion that we'll never be able to grow a list we can have space to do them physically and that's why we have to have friends and associates who say i'll take you as i find you know god waited for all of us to get to a certain place before he said ok now you are worthwhile there would be no deed for jesus christ to have been born there's a real significance that he was born not an accident it was saying no matter where you are and what environment star reaching towards god let that that is the messiah christ jesus be in you that means you can get it there's so many things there that is our promise i don't make promises can't deliver them in the physical world there's  a lot of this world that will not want spiritual promises brought him and has to be respected and honored but when we ask for in our spirit we receive it in the spirit and we can manifest anywhere we want to in our ten percent level because bindiya been declared your ten percent level that's amazing and we're tested all the time by opposition to see if we're stronger for the next level of our awareness is going to need great strain to maintain many you people have gone through that and you're here is a testimony and a tribute to your ability to stand up side of yourself and honor your spiritual truth and love people regardless of their race creed the color the situation the circumstance the environment and they didn't exclude me travelers rip you off while you sleep would still get the necessary spiritual information that's quite evidence not dependent on me in my mouth and my voice my words or anything like that it's a transmission that goes on spiritually and we've also found out that i don't have to be there physically and it'll transmit to know why i'm not doing it it's being done through me not because of me in spite of that light came over me i don't even feel my body it may be dead here and i don't know better when i get through when that light comes on me something over the years i probably have more illnesses and all this room combined together and the spirit keeps healing me and healing me and i keep going to myself why are you so go that you have to be healed all the time i still don't have an answer for that there may very well be that that's my transformation maybe that's my enlight to the physical level just to experience that and in spite of it go through that part of me this a traveler knows everything when i get to that i can know it this part down here is pretty dumb but i that energy of faith is more powerful than this glass will hold the water and it's more transparent but it's an energy that is powerful that when you step on it it meets you supplies what's there and energy of faith not of thought i hope it'll be there i'm not talking about hope i'm talking about something else this movement of spiritual has not been taught in teachings the concept of faith because we could prove unmanifest things out of our own consciousness and test to see if it's so and it's not so but there comes a time in your existence even those levels can't be checked at some point you cannot have an experience to validate your spiritual life it will be in existence but not in experience and you then have to drop your truth of your experiences and go into the nothingness of the spirit and know that that's so and you do it on the energy of faith that faith is what brought us all here tonight there probably wasn't one of you that question whether i would be here you just came here based upon this people from nigeria from australia i think from new zealand certainly from canada south america and  start asking don't be supported disappointed if you don't get everything but know that if you don't get it it's a blessing i was talking with a young actor and he said to me you know there is a lot of jobs that i went out to get for and i was really upset i put the lie and prayed for and asked for and i didn't get it by i was really disturbed about that you know and maybe jealous and resentful and all those goodies we can get into then i look back on that on the picture and it w i think god i'm glad i wasn't tied in with that and i thought yeah but you probably tied in with your own flops and sure enough you was i'm not going to tell which one it was low because i think you  should see it because he gets residuals and then he'll pay ten percent tithing and so we support each other knowing that we're supporting the great overall movement of all of us and that's a wonderful thing to you know christ is in the forgiving business we do something it's forgiven and love is in the forgiving business love is to be given away if you don't give it away you lose it a song the movement says love is the strangest thing that i know you keep it around by letting it go you give it away you give it away like the sun shines on the wicked and the good  burn all of us equally equally to all of it equally and we must do the same thing equally we shine the love on all and then we decide who we participate with intimately then your selections ten percent people come up to me and say what's my karma with this person we're thinking of getting married i write ten percent level so the back to go that's in this new desk you that's right there's no need to ask me love then you find out that it was just a bloom no love build the energy in this room just about ninety five percent of you here have got the loving there's no the fact or sense are still sitting there going where maybe maybe maybe maybe maybe the pig if you shut off your loving to be you hurt yourself because you shut off that part of best as one inside of you you sh and figured well that's part of how you do things and they've accepted it but why not give yourself a break and open up to loving and give it you don't have to turn and say i love you or this or that will become evident because the spirit inside of you starts to honor the spirit in the other people to start to push energy out but i tell you when they do love you and they turn around they say i love you in you have more now than you had as a single individual much more that's why we say let's all bring our hearts together let's all be the beloved let's don't have a lover and a loved one this be the beloved all one all loving all parts of all of us and when we see another person just know that that is also us there then there have  individual right to express out the karma of their existence not for good or bad to learn to grow old and if there's a judgement let's keep that to god down here we can't judge we can only get upset disturbed and complain when the person goes ahead and does it anyway see judgment would work of people stop doing what we judgement that be great because it would all be the same statue looking the same way it would all be nothing i am so glad in this movement of spiritual in awareness we have such diverse personalities they need support not belittlement they need encouragement for the next step not a stumbling stone they need us to be there because we need other people to be there for us not all day not all night maybe just for a second and then we lift up begin and we're giving out again the people are magnificent because you've entered into i call the part of life you're following a traveler that is invisible teaching about things that you won't validate tells you to check it out challenge you to do it you do it you grow and we're all on this spaceship earth travelling through the unknown with somebody we don't know going to a place we have never been to and we're doing it loving have people that if i stumble fall big stopped my head i'm not too bloody and bruised and then i thank you for because this particular job isn't popular i hear people say oh i'd like to be the mystical travel to say you'll never get it because you want to i think god says let's play a big joke on all the intellectuals on the planet let's get a nerd there you get to do it thanks why didn't you choose somebody that would really do a great job so we could get more people don't worry about their handle we're just setting the stage for the  got the keys but now he has to have he had the staff of power now has to get the rod of power available to him i held it from june up till now this time for me to look old even though i hold  people say go on vacation i go yeah we go there we work harder than we do when i'm doing this when i do this every goes well you work hard they leave me alone that i'm on vacation he's doing nothing but call him up talk to a sorry about that but you're not going to go you're not going to go because he backed in i knew he could take this so as protecting my interests it was a very selfish point of view we were out the motu and i thought i saw him coming back to the boat we're gone it's like tough luck buddy but i told him don't go and he went so have your car is fine with me we went snorkeling and  we're doing windsurfing we're good read leave and go back and am sitting in the boat facing where we're going to go back and now the water comes up with a frisbee in one hand sorts of things your best friends are the sharks either one but they're not your best friends they just said they were we got back in the boat and i said what you do on the way out here say going to get it i won't be able get off the planet right away you know so you never been left since it was really in the sam's looking at his birth inside of me and seeing the christ manifest in him and see it manifest in others so many people that i thought all they could be the next traveler old boy oh boy it's all set up i'm ready to go just give it to me and go my thought that because when i got i didn't know anything so i figured anybody else can go without a thing also but i've given him a lot of teaching him he really could have a real cushy life he's got to just keep reproducing the information i put up for twenty five years and he's got another fifteen years just told her see that she didn't do anything else so it gets amazing that we come at this time of year when it's time for a new birth and john has then it's really porton to know that he must increase and i have to decrease or for that to take place in a job as my friend and i really would love you to love him as much as i do him in the ways that you have supported me i would love you to do that for john who in the spirit chooses somebody regardless of what it looks like physically that person is honored when the traveler consciousness is placed with somebody and activates theirs and then gives them the keys we have to look at him as being the elder brother or younger brother who has the keys for all of us and we make sure that he keeps them right and when his re to see that they go on he won't make the final decision he'll just acknowledge that the decision has been made the same way that i did but i imagine that if he takes the wear and tear that i did it won't be too many years till he's going to say let's get somebody else because john likes to play and i like to play been it's really nice to play with your friends in this world is a game it's a beautiful game if you see it with the beauty inside of you and it's a garbage pail if you look at it from any other level but i look out here and i see smiling faces i see friends shaking hands when they say how do you do but they're really saying i love you and if we hear i love you and everything they say and we honor that not because of what was said but we honor ourselves so we don't listen to things that are not honorable going to directing into the spiritual life of love and joy and happiness the travelers messages loving caring and sharing help built happiness prosperity abundance and riches anyone are all mine and a combination they're all if you've already got one of them go for another make yourself available to yourself your ego will be hurt to get vindictive it will be corrupted ill decay so what is going to go with your body there is an interesting statement marc anthony s it julius caesar he said the good guys with us the bad stays behind for those who didn't get it he was just talking about your karma is left behind and you get to come back and finish it the good goes with you when you die and leave this plane of existence all the good that you have mustered again goes with you and the negativity is returned to the nothingness don't have any karma on it because then you have to go back with that we're all responsible for our creation me as much as anyone else my responsibility for lies in the spirit realm when i g i'll just call it all with me when you go up a whole people years with you too if not from the spirit world you can reach down and pull it out isn't that nice to no and dissolve in pure spirit that's why it breaks loose around you you should say thank god that one's being done no more that's weak less terrific when you come to that time a place in your existence when that takes place with you you part remember that i told you this we said merry christmas and happy new you i think you'd understand what i'm talking let that relationship go to everyone i really urge you just to love people where you find them they have the wherewithal to pick themselves up and move to wonderful levels of experience wonderful level the ability be wonderful that you know them mr young friend here tonight from new york maxis mom here and i bet she often i don't know what's going to happen this kid of mine in boy those two try to each other out karmically for a long time and they're both here tonight and they're both terrific people and they're both doing real well and you know something they won't have a chance to go around and hug each one of you and tell you that i love you but i hope you would accept this way and know that that is the same as if i could do that with you spiritually i do  when we meet in those other levels of consciousness it's really remarkable how much fun we have we go on the heavenly realms the mystery schools and they have to really call us to order because we're having such a good and i think some of the mystery school keepers are going to be glad when i go because then you get disciplined by somebody who'll teach you the solemn ness traditional spiritual church and i sit back in the corner and crack jokes i don't it disrespectfully i do it because i get away with it but if you can't don't do it because they can't kick you out of the school they don't they really don't you know there's a lot of people say i got kicked all such and such mr school you down kick you out but it's true they test you to see if you want to go on i don't do that your karma will do that and you said that perfectly for you to have all your book pushed by all sorts of things to see what have you overcome in this world jesus said i've overcome the world is gone for all of us i took him at his word and dissolved mine he said i believe it is done and it's amazing what that does for you  do that as a birth for you now in a rebirth every morning rebirthing yourself every second of the day there's something comes in that you don't honor don't let a dim honor yourself honor your loving you find out that we have really been great friends  john rogers closing large where they wish they shared which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you've heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years to that which is post office box three hundred three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five while this has been that which is with john roger thanks for joining