extraordinary individual born of the royal family in japan and became a hell of the producer where she took up the idea of doing that and interviewed with her and to explain to us her extraordinary career and association with the world leadership and doing television production and the importance of that to the  that ground and has been involved with television production with a wide variety of people here in this in the in the in the latter years of the th century his message of great import to bring in terms of the forward the human spirit and our rock a very very much new york city into competition i wonder if we might we want to talk here maybe you could share with us your own background we want to share with the american people your own large nature in terms of understanding the human condition you chose to leave political science and with the girl economy because that is something so important i mean even in this  war without really understanding those background i think it's you know it is very difficult i was always interested in to become political critic on international affairs and the need to there to be a bridging of the communications gap and the television is a way that these messages and perceptions of these people could be shared with a much wider audience oh yeah and then continue things this are different but basically human nature human spirit are the same you see so if there would be any peace i have the seating that is the humanity you know raised and throughout the world what they are really looking for is basically the feeling ness of the spirit in front of god and also peace inside and he had a very difficult time that can be good and people couldn't understand what he was trying to do now after that the point i met him i think he just went through a very institute for world peace and that's an organization that you have now and you continue to work with that and you have a wide variety of people learn their moral support and name to that perceptions and the scene science and technology is advancing very rapidly human nature i'm not sure how much it has changed we discover now that some physics  evolution very well of a common ancestry going trace back to africa we find you commonalities and you said earlier that human nature does not change the technology and the extensions of our consciousness have perhaps changed through time and offers this new opportunity i don't think biologically we have changed that much do you or or or do  relationship to the environment changing room and reveal a new kind of human nature that we were not aware of as a technological condition jing well i think a science and technology and all of for you to be able to mediate as it were between various in these aspects and see things from a very comprehensive view of the evolution of cosmic consciousness itself that's extremely important we have a comprehensive view and there's not enough i would submit it or go to stop agree intellectually or intuitively or spiritually a sense of comprehensive really considering the human condition or the human condition within the broader development of biology or that within the broader development of the evolution of the universe of consciousness itself is our purpose in your view overall overarching purpose to life on this planet to human life on this planet and if there is you have some idea from your met a perspective as it were than what that purpose is in a collective understand each other in such a way we hunting hunter gather to create a better word this is a mission not so the purpose of life with and it's also our mission of the life is to create a better world together with other people handing one so all of the other things whether you're gang or prime minister or housewife or cameraman or journalist you just choose the best been called liberation in a certain sense if in the world the bulk of the human society does not have that sense of peace or are not able to africa's material reality they are of press is it possible i suspect you of the world people concentrate only on their own selves and do not concern themselves with their fellow human being or ecologically with the broader i think it's very important questions you see human is first it's very important to have a set of established meant we didn't yourself to have a very harmonious you know you just have to take time if you're driving yourself you have abiding sense of selfishness for there to be achieve universal justice so that you have an abiding sense of the concern of not yourself  true ideas you have always found your becoming very harmonious you cannot reach that high and you cannot accomplish very much you see st if you want to have such a wonder about the leadership of the world and whether or not there is a we have an appropriate leadership pattern we have institutions with nation state various institutions the world bank the united nations the very institutions that we try to work with many people feel that particular in the media and you and i both in our ways are involved with media there's a broader media that there is a secret agenda that was just  recently made in the united states and ninety nine percent of the people the united states they thought the news in the united states was slanted in order to hide a secret agenda and wonder how or what do you make of a figure like that  should be but distrust of the world as presented through the media to the broad what does it say and i wonder if there is anything like a an agenda that some of our world leadership how the perhaps we're not gather so many things happening and do you think it is possible isn't it is possible that perhaps because of some sort of transformation perhaps metaphysically understood one possibility might be unbeknownst to us as we develop we may be for instance with all of these critters as you indicated going exponentially up in this particular time in which we come to a birth of a new way of relating that perhaps unbeknown to stir the physical or conditions of the world had changed in a way that allows for us collectively as a whole society to operate in a manner that historically we have not been able to james joyce the poet did say or had daedalus a history is a nightmare from which we're attempting to awaken do you think it's possible that we may be coming to a time where one possibility might be that we are overcoming in a in a manner in a physical sense of materials and the fundamental reality of scarcity in terms of our technologically augmented capability of providing for the earth were all institutions that evolved within scarcity cereals um if one wins another had to move that we may have the that we're transcending scarcity as that one possibility or some other kind of development that isn't generally understood or know that we could have a pattern of a qualit and revolutionary transformation of the operation of the spaceship earth and the human condition in the world it would be in powering of all the people all of the people and ecologically so but also to be so comprehensive university got to be brain washed and trained and grounded in this part of the word and then when you you start finding out all of this what he's done together wit going through a gestation period and we're coming into a new relationship to the universe oh yes but i want to come back again to that if that is the case do you think it's possible that we could have a way of having everyone included in this that it is a matter of consciousness raising to a new realities is generally not accepted or understood because of the history torkel patterns and if that is the case there a role for the media which is in a certain sense one step removed from a media power to provide a kind of tax where consciousness and these questions could be brought up discussed by people who are in positions of ongoing pollen and the responsibilities that carry to discuss an alternative vision than the one in which they're operating now and doesn't make the media all that much going for it particularly television given the very very good one i must say and you would like to be able to have included in your activity sharing some of that perception here the electronic media out here with the wider world so you'll be really  appropriate transformation and you contributed mightily to that if i may alter the years and in a pay setting way and i really want to thank you very much for for all your work for all your work over the years pay setting work and happy to enable to share it and you