following program is sponsored by seattle open door church yet all open door church he's committed to loving god loving people and loving life our doors are open to whomever no mass required seattle open door church before i go to my message i want to i want to i want to do a little teaching based upon warship as it is worshipping in our church is kind of unique church that we have we have people in this church who are on churched on church means they spent most of  not being in church some were christians and until recently we have other people have been christians for years and years and years and years we have people who've come from baptists background pentecostal background catholic background e  scribes what every church should be it should be whomsoever would walk in those doors and in the midst of that there's all kinds of different types of for shop and some of you never been church you never went to church then you don't know the controversy in christian dalt so i let you in a little secret what you know and some of the controversy now some you know exactly what i'm talking about because you've been part of some of the controversy so we saying two saws i know if you knew or not but two of those songs are there are controversies within the church still today is interesting to me still today that some think that the only thing that's godly is him so if you're seeing hand you're seeing something godly and if you don't see in him is not godly so i know some churches that they will not sing contemporary songs whatsoever they think they're of the devil you know just want you to think god you're a mighty to savior my savior is a cell like something the devil wrote well yeah so like the god i know of today so which ones right and which ones wrong they're all saws you can worship god a lot has to do with flavor and so you have a different style story hymns are normally stating facts about the world or about god about the character of god so hymns are telling the story now for a long time i didn't like him as i came from a church that had him and i didn't know anything different so it wasn't a problem but i have a more struggle with him because of the fact that it doesn't flow exactly the same as a contemporary songs but there's something that i cherish and we've been playing more him that i like it because you know why there's a lot of good stuff that him so talking about there's a lot of truths most of the time since him sometimes have false would in some of the things they say and i've shown that before but overall they speak truths about god's character about what the word says and all that and i like that because i love the word and so as i see those words i see it talking about the character of god and his power as magilla stuff i really love that stuff but you know that hymns are not made and they were never made to be really personable hymns were made to proclaim who god is they were made to it's necessary to touch your heart now if you know who god is what touched your heart if you sing the hymns that doesn't touch your heart there's something wrong with you but they were made to touch your heart or made to proclaim the praise of god contemporary songs mostly they're made to touch the heart and they're made for you to talk to god him they're not only talking about god contemporary songs are about talking to god so if you  see mighty to save it at personal stuff in there may i my savior it had days where it was shown it was a personal song that you were singing to god which ones right both which one is better whatever works for you ok so if you sit and you say yeah i don't like those contemporary songs i'm not going to praise jesus because it's a temporary song you have a problem if you say i'm not going to sing words over mind to say by to say by to say by the same id say they keep saying over and over again how boring if it is boring to you to say god's mind to save there's something wrong with you because when i read my bible it says that the elders drop their crowns of the church and they say was holy holy holy what do they say holy holy holy what do they say holy holy holy holy holy holy jesus you're all mighty you might have saved all that doesn't say they say that when you're in the presence of a holy mighty god you're going to lose the be able to ability to just talk because when someone is in front of a king of a king walk in now i will say trumpet some you don't like trumpet so you probably spit at him and everything you probably would not know what to say and out of praise and worship there's to be a place that god your mind to save and i would argue what sometimes is repeated for this reason until you get it till you get it i mean sometimes people get things the first time you you won't care that it keeps they might say you'll be off in la la land you'll be in some place else of the songs over and you're still saying brian i just pray you might say well what wait wait everybody everybody nobody stops singing what kind of worship is that that's the kind of worship that's worshipping the spirit of truth because you're no longer sing the song your speak your worship in a spirit truth because you know what you know the truth that is my to save in that he saves you and you don't really care what anybody's doing because you're in the very presence of god that's true warship in the presence of god so then the last  right one time lift your hands cause i exalt you i will tell you your axle taisha be different when you allow your body to participate with your words you know why you're submitting your body to him you say god i excel at you so i'm going to tell you if the pressure comes in is say hi dude how you doing are you turn around and you go to reach out to shake his hand which one is going to impress and that you honor his position is god any different god demands holiness god demands worship does he not and i would tell you something you don't do it because it's demanded that you do it because you know who he is he is holy is righteous and i exalt you i give you a new you give god i give you everything i'm saying here i am i'm surrendering everything just as a little kid i've said this so many times just like when  ma then the dad and that child is got connection didn't they tell me something a kid that never raise their hands when daddy comes home what is daddy fil doesn't care don't mean anything and is really bad if the kid lifts their hands up with another guy comes into the house so the neighbor walks into that this and this is a sermon maybe more do my sermon may this be a sermon if i walk in the house of my kid doesn't lift their hands up and doesn't do anything is showing in recognition of me being their father but when the next door neighbor when he knocks on the door he walks in the kid loves her hands up the next door neighbor would you be suspicious would you god i think is suspicious when we go to a ballgame and lived there hands up and shout and scream but we won't do it in church i think he's suspicious of who we really love oh i got it i got to be nice in church i got to behave a certain way you know you got to walk a certain way you got to do this or that i don't want to i don't want to get emotional want people to see me getting emotional because you know you should be emotional really where the bible say that there's a say that you're not supposed to be emotional because if it does there's a problem because my god is an emotional god my  there's nothing wrong be emotions you shouldn't be controlled by emotions but i want to give you just this one time i give you all lift up your hands songs next week that's what i'll do i'll give you all the songs that lift your hands of praise because i always find it  glory if you do that to impress if you do that to keep me happy to keep me to shut up if you do it for the wrong reasons nothing in it but what if all of a sudden you're told that you have cancer and you're told you have only one day to live and you're going to die and it's been a week you're not dead so monday you're told you're going to die you have twelve hours you're going to be dead sunday rolls around you might just run up out of that but right back therefore you know what you don't care about the cheesecake it for that reason guess what don't show up but the mazy think guess what you show up out of obedience because what happens god such as you is spite of you i don't want to be a church he tells me to go so i don't want to go go  jumping up and down and all that kind of stuff that's not me i came from picasso church i was the weirdo because i didn't jump up adele like them i did this so it's a jump for joy i jump for joy that's about as more as i'm going to get ok but but all of a sudden when there's other people doing what happens it creates an atmosphere where all of a sudden there is freedom to do whatever god leads to do and all of a sudden god starts to work in that person that said this i can't stand alone my goodness they sing an hour and a half and you're ready to die because you know that burger king is going to get called over there know they cook a measure order him don't worry about it will be cold you'll still get your burger king burger and maryland we go but all of a sudden when there's the good the worship is going on guess w god does god does of amazing things because they create an atmosphere for his spirit to work his spirit is permission to work god doesn't need your permission but god a god that does what he honors the will of people and all of a sudden so then you just raise your hand and then you know sometimes says clap on to the lord it says that i should put some of the old songs touch on some talk about the fields clap as an old testament versus is that the rock will proclaim his praise and and then the trees the field down the hill to the rock say no i'm not going down the hill you're not going to make me what is the rock do it goes down the hill doesn't was supposed to do is fun to god to watch us praise him it blesses him we praise him and don't take what i said and twist it did i say you have to raise your hands they say you have to clap it in say that you do it god leads you do but you be open to do it and now god to work and move and when that happens guess what doesn't matter if there's a worship team or not the reason for a worship team honestly the reason for worship team is you all sing louder when there's a worship team and there is a there is an atmosphere that happens when you've got some people that are leading warsh up because when they become what they become the example is they are leading warship there's an example that takes place in the midst of that and there's a presence that takes in the midst of that and i believe this platform is dedicated to god so i believe what takes place in this platform with people who allow god to work through them is god does miracles can god do miracles at your house absolutely can god do miracles out in the street absolutely but i believe in the same strain is committed to god i believe that god does something in the midst of worship and praise in the midst of preaching the word because i believe this is a holy place is just a building i know that we're the holy place for the holy spirit to live i know that but there's something that  last point is those who say i can worship god any place that i want to go to church and all that yeah that's true and i have to beatrice christian and i have to go to church but where you go where god meets sat on a regular basis you know what does god hear all the time whether we show up or not so i don't want to get into where dr money shop eleven o'clock god doesn't just sunday show up he says i meant am i going to do this eleven o'clock their eleven o'clock there i'm going to get there i don't know i'm going to get over he's already there but i do believe that when we show up it gives god permission for his spirit to work in a greater way how do i know that people who never show up and go to church or guys or hear someone talk you show up but people don't go to church thing and watch them preaching the word everything else but is something different at home then you get with a bunch of believers there's something happens there's fellowship that goes on there's accountability the go on there's a feeling of a relationship so can you watch the seahawks from home how many would rather get everybody get that or seahawk fans that people give you seventy dollar tickets every time they see a is it is a seventy dollars or more don't tell me it's more  information you can always go to our website to learn how to accept jesus christ as your lord and savior you can go to there is hope t v guide or that there is hope t v dot org and we have information on frequently asked questions about christianity we let you know step by step out accept jesus christ your lord and savior encourage you to go to there is hope t v dot or that is there is hope t v dot org also let you know if you would like to talk to me person you can always give me a call toll free anytime one a six six one g and the wrong people you went to all the wrong places you did all the wrong things and now you don't know how to get it right you're paying a terrible price for terrible choices doing whatever it takes to referencing when people return to addictive behaviors after making initial attempts to get free sobriety always a struggle to maintain for former addicts whereas it is possible to overcome the state of fragility of lives possible overcome but to be honest what we see is the more structure there is for an individual the more the willing to take godly counsel the less fragile is a risk their sobriety the recovery but it's a challenge because like many addicts will tell you is they're living in a forty nine year old body with about a thirteen year old mind and a foot structure there and i believe that's the thing that that the addict any person of any kind of addiction they need structure in their life and so that we're there the other thing is as we focus on those who want recovery so our house is unique we don't always sell the house stuff because it's very picky about who we bring and we love you who are serious about recovery and so i tell people all the time that the success of the house is not about us is about the people live in the houses or se