from santa monica california here is that which he has with john rogers that much is his presented by m s i the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to awakening the spiritual heart with each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual advisor of m s i the founder and president of the institute for individual in the world peace and other organizations for the purpose of improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and he has been teaching and conducting seminars for many years this seminars and titled demonstrating fundamental change of behavior right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about the movement this life is to be lived this life is to be lived joyfully but you can't live a joyful life without a path to walk on that path is not an outward path that's out there it's called every dog for himself every man for five in this life i've done things here that most people wouldn't even think about and i've already done finished a mom on the something else and they said well how do you do it this is if you have a purpose in your life it's already been done if you don't have a purpose in your life get one and if you're not sure how to get one just keep breathing in and breathing out until one shows up and they said we'll show up i said yes because we were not put here on this planet and said to us now bag and i look around to you your energy fields and i can see them there are no secrets why should there be anyway we're all doing similar things we're all trying for the same things we're all wanting the same loving what's wrong with just sharing that knowledge stat information but you know on this planet it seems like there's a foot some sort of plan to keep you from looking into yourself they want to look into stores and they want to look into the world and see if you can find all that you want by looking in the world you'll find some of it but at some point the questions of you being this are going to start coming to you know why am i here everything everything i mean i got to learn everything you know you got to learn and grow everything in side of  inside of you know there's a spiritual focus here i don't get that this is necessarily religious focus even though most people understand that's from the latin word really garri which means to realign alang yourself  down the presence of spirit is getting stronger in this room it's picking up some of you in here deciding that you're going to be loving no matter if anybody else is loving or not let me be your friend forever because that's the kind of people i want to be around that's the kind of person i want to be i loose track i got a lot of work that i do  i get people around me that are energetic we call in the light team the light team why because all the time they're involved in the process  here's a question think about why why why we're doing what the worry process is it is thinking in your mind about how to fix something without doing anything about it and then you go over that to make sure that you've thought it through very carefully and then and you can really tell what people are doing is they start to frown because now they're inwardly exactly neatly inspecting all the things in there to make sure that their worry is worthwhile there was a man that was hired ones to brand hundred cattle and the guy said i'm going to pay you one hundred dollars for each cow you bring and he said that's good money yeah that's good that's good money that's real good money ok how long do i get the slow how long would you like he said about eight hours you said ok so they got ten branding irons here so i'd just like you to put ten one on to ten and the knows and he said i'm sorry i'm not going to pay you because you didn't brand the cattle he said you've got to give me something for my effort while the job was branding cattle you didn't bring them in brand wanted to he says yeah but i i couldn't i tried i couldn't i tried i couldn't and that's not fair after all look at all the time in the effort i put into it is that what you do he said will you try keeping ten fires going and keeping all these iron's hot and try to band do a hundred cattle you man said i didn't say i would pay you to keep fires burning i said i'd pay you the brand the cattle  still smart what would you do he said i'd build one fire put all the branding irons in one pile and brandon from one you could have had them all done in a couple hours but you see you've got to pay me because i put in the effort folks you don't get paid for putting in effort it's accomplishment time it's  many years ago maybe back in the eighty's we used to have clever remarks and there would be nice way of putting somebody down without hurting them but still let them know that you got the point and did they get your point and i just forgot what it was now i'll go back to my alzheimer's joke because i thought once that i was having l simers because i was losing my memory and then somebody said no that's old age and i said in the mirror and go who are you because i have a written up on there that's him again yes he's back again this morning what i figured out is i've got so much to remember and the delivery system was poor my computers can do more in three seconds and i was able to do in months and i got the slow computers we have to make sure that we are doing what we are labeling ourselves to be doing if you say you're trying to remember something and you're not remembering you're doing something else and you've got to watch what you doing this is all done visually with all the senses that we have the five major ones seeing is above all if you had a choice that you could have one sense taken away from you what would it be i have one i don't have i don't have one sense of their body else hands smell only ten what you people have to put up with i don't smell but i sure would want to see where i am going i would sure like to hear what people are telling me and i sure would like to taste some of the things i like to eat boy some of the things you have to put up with th stinky its own nice not to do that and that works both through the nose and then it works through the spirit and it comes down the side of you and you get a sick feeling and you say there is something or wrong here and this is stinking thinking what are you doing here going over and over and over and over the same thing trying to figure out how to change it there's a definition for insanity it's called going over the same thing it's rote memory and you keep going in the circle trying to get over here and you keep going in the circle hoping things will change and they won't and you keep saying the circle hoping you can get over there and you won't if you're going to get over there you better start make them some fundamental changes in your behavior what's a fundamental change this is a fundamental change just get up and move a fundamental change now here's the bad news the story a few minutes ago that i had to tell you is in that chair when i got that when i was there i almost had it and then when i came over here i remembered something else that i had earlier memory is located geographically went to get into that one that really gets to be whole areas where you say i was going to  see what was i was thinking i was going to tell yeah oh yeah right i remember why is it that you remember the way you do because memories located throughout the entire system you ever hear music and all sudden you're back fifteen or twenty years of something and you're there and it's as real as just touching this book right here it's real and then it disappears because  of time is always now in this now just left and a new one is appearing and it just left so we're really working hard not to slide backwards you get dedicated by your willingness to be as good and better and as great as you are truly and signed truly you're going to make mistakes don't good heavens what is the most fundamental thing that comes with roller skating and riding a bicycle falling anybody who gets on those things without expecting a fall is living in some land of monday reality with me the we've got to breakfast as long as i've got older clothes on the people with me don't mind but if i was dressed tonight take and put like table cloths around me to save me from pouring food on me now here's here's a question i have for you why is that if i don't wear tablecloth spilt food on me and if we put a table cloth around me i won't spill any same hand same pork same everything i sit at the table i knew it was genetics for a long time because my dad used to sit at the table and him pull the the plate close has just fine with us as long as you're doing something that's not harming anybody else have a good time if you can eat in a restaurant and get food on you and have fun and everybody else enjoys it good on you me it bothers me i'm always using the napkin to make sure that i have a walk you people  but they want to make sure that i look presentable in public i don't know why i'm not that concerned there's six billion people on the planet if somebody doesn't like you i'll bet you there's somebody else it'll be all just fine with what you're doing and he laughed and if you don't like that you can just stay home there are all sorts of choices or here's one you can grab yourself by the bootstraps if you don't just grab a hold of your socks and pull yourself right out and use whatever comes  way whatever comes your way is yours how you use it is your business is if it's abusive to you don't be stupid get of the way they sound like simple minded things wait for the next week things start happening the guy you know john roger talked about  e talked about spilling food in his lap he talked about getting food on his face didn't he and once again we're come to this place who are saying it is the spirit of life and you can call this as far as i'm concerned anything that suits your fancy i refer to it often as the beloved because when that energy comes in it seems like no matter what i have done or anybody else has done is just all right with me and if i don't like it i get up and walk out and i don't have to apologize nor anything else because if i don't like it why should i stand and tell somebody what i don't like you think they're going to change how many of you in here are married and have or you all thought you're going to change somebody how many here are not are not married raise your hand so you are no better you know they're not going to change or of you know they're just going to do what they do but here let me give you a clue if that significant other if there's such a thing as a significant other this person that you made significantly other  if they don't do things you like and they do things you don't like why don't you sit down and just agree to not have that your relationship with my mother and father were married and they were to the dying they didn't act like they were married all the time but then different strokes for different folks my dad was a coal miner and he would come in from mining and he would be know a lot of people who were black in terms of your skin color my dad was blacker than your skin color black because he had coal dust dirt all over him and it was wet and watery and it really looked terrific and he had come into my mom would meet him at the door and my mom was slick chick i didn't know that till i got much much older knew what slick chicks w both before that she was the one who beat me if we'd had in the abuse line we really had a lot of business at our house but when i look back over every time they disciplined me i deserved it i'm just thankful that they didn't discipline me for every time that i did deserve it because i got away with a lot more than they ever got me but then they really didn't because you know it was inside the year after i got away with that and one day when i went to go inside to get some strength had to deal with you move it there buddy but a liar because you can't trust him if you can't trust what is there to trust someone is to love them but the love them is to be with them and to be with them is to share with them i can run this down alone livin the we could be here for a couple days just one after another here is not for you it's for somebody else who hasn't shown up yet they're going to show up they're going to come you're going to hear about it and they're going to turn around and you're going to have that information just laid out they're beautiful and they're going to say god bless you and you're going if you god bless you because you had the wit to prepare yourself for a future event that you didn't even know about you know what i like about being in the physical body here on the planet earth you can't go up spiritually without taking somebody else with you you know what i don't like about it here religiously go by yourself you have to keep builds with you spiritually we go up we start to take people with us our love our joy our children i've never seen anybody take a car with them i've been my been watching for that maybe someday they will have that all figured out but the place that i've been in the spirit world if you want to be there you just be there then you've ever seen the don't forget to be here because here's where there's going to come from and if you don't do that here in the stuff that required of you when you get there you're going to wish you'd been here doing it all this is just got way over sometimes when i get like this in those fields logical moves and makes me feel like i'm sitting on the toilet and i just sort of want to flush everything and like i can let's start over but it doesn't seem like it makes any difference one way or another you are who you are and yet and the mean what you're going to do about it unless unless you get in there deep enough to get past the psychology and the ego of the psychology you've got to get past that and that's hard to do because the equal the psychology wants jewelry food clothing say money abundance prosperity everything and everything and everything and more of that and it wants it and then when it gets it it complains because it can't afford to keep it up how many human here are married to high maintenance women i just be willing to bet you that's the first time we've ever heard a speaker ask that question in our brain but you know there's got to be equal time that we're known how many of you are married to high maintenance man don't know what i said you're looking for you don't know that i don't know that you know my going too fast in here right now have some sort of pain some place in your body right now you have some sort of pain someplace in your body ok just keep your hand up because there's more coming on this t mine you know why i tell you because you don't think i'm going to say something and i'm not i'm just going to sit there until it does something all by itself but while we're waiting for that how many of you could raise your hand on this one i say how many of you have trouble that your mind won't leave you alone ok if you like that raise your hand back up again that your mind will leave you alone see mine isn't bothering me i don't even feel embarrassed or that i don't have anything to say because there's no mind in there that says you should be now doing this or this or this and it does those work that way how does it work on me i tell you information drops down from me like a sheet of paper but i can see through it just dropped on a sheet of paper and on and if i'm looking at somebody and i stare a little bit longer than usual the paper shifts and i see them then i get to look at them and get to think oh my god that was really funny when you did that and they'll say what do you that thing is he will remember when you did that the other they say yeah but you weren't there you know but it was still funny still funny how is it we can do that everyone in this room is gifted with the same gifts of the spirit not everyone in this room are accessing the gifts of the spirit the same way and certainly difference i didn't know i couldn't do it somebody told you you can't do that you believed it and somebody told me i couldn't do it i tried out to see if that was true and i did and i said well you can do it but i didn't know i couldn't do it so i did it then i do really good no no we're not talking about excellence the verse staying the german word to perfection you know when we reach and right from that place right there is where you're going to give your heart to somebody i'm right there from that place right there you going to wish you were dead and right there from that patient there you're going to give your life for somebody else because you're going to love them so much how many of you have children right from there is where that child lives and from there you  things for your children the you will not do for your spouse we now know that insanity is inherited why because the kids are driving the parents crazy circling the room will take just a little bit take a little bit to get around to give it the it's inherited like you know if you have to explain that is just really not worthwhile but sometimes it's worth explaining because you can improve upon it for somebody else you know around you know i said oh no name and no no you're wrong and it isn't going to do it and i won't be there and i'm sorry and they you know and you just listen real careful and i want to answer right now if you don't answer me right now i'm not going to talk  and they didn't answer and i stopped talking and people just are gathering around jr how do we get this how do we get this how do we get this i said well we got to do it right and one thing we got to do we don't care with that it's the best we just want right we want to so everybody has an equal chance to get to get into it to get involved in it give them an  opportunity and we don't care how old or how small or how whatever they are if they're willing to participate if they're reeling to participate and a lot of you've gone to meetings and you've heard people seeing and you've gone to why would she get up and sing because folks she couldn't sing better than that she could just criticize and she was x and that and that's what i was looking for at the time so i can't date here and i didn't know what that's what i was looking for but of you know based upon results that's the way it was so we said this life here is based upon results what you see what you do is based upon your effort and your effort must produce the result so we can see it if somebody just tells it to you and there's no way you can see the results just get up and start walking if somebody goes to con you you know they want you to believe something don't forget to ask the stupid questions don't ask smart questions because they're expecting you to ask smart questions because that way they'll get you and you're not you're going not going to ask them questions because you don't want them to think you're dumb you want them to think you're smart and they want you to think that you're smart and that they're dumb so they can get what they want from you now if you ask the dumb questions on anything you go down by new car and they say it's a great car how many m ruining my cell you know what you're doing is you're taking care of yourself when you when you're in that class and you think you know something you're not sure raise your hand and risk mean the dummy for the group just don't scratch your head because you get steppers your fingers that's how you raise your hand do not be afraid of life do not worry about those anxious feelings don't be concerned about how you look or don't look in the eyes of other people be concerned about how god is perceiving you and how you're perceiving yourself if you were to be god you get some pretty good answers about how to live your life you're going to get perfect answers this place is not perfect well actually it is perfect and the problem is we just don't like it that way so we want to change it so your jobs your jobs not a job your jobs is to let your light so shine the glorifies god  takes looking at you like who are you and know that that god is our god i don't care which one who's church you go to that doesn't bother me at all you go go go to church doesn't bother me but that one who breathes you in sleeps you and walks you and awakens you and cares for you and gives you opportunity that one it may be a male may be female it may be a vapor i don't care it just exists too real because you see i don't know how to wake up in the morning but in knows how to wake me up and i don't know how to go to sleep at night but it'll sleep when i i don't know how to meditate and then will meditate me you people may think you know how to breathe and you can control it ok raise your hand in the aarons don't take another breath and let's just see how about works and you'll find out the you don't know how to breathe but you're breathing whatever that is this just isn't side of us it is being there that is us is all of us we've got to the space fine you know trying to to do something out there in space fine with each other nice not worth it it's more fun to get married find your spouse because life is full of all sorts of variables and let's just take it was the come it's not going to come your way you're lucky if you get the the two next birthday the way you want it you're going to be really lucky i have a birthday every day that way i'm sure when i get to mine i will i will have had the birthday every day and every day i get up and i and i clean up and i have a birthday sometimes i forget where i am but then i got a little note there in fact i have that i have to check to one that i really like i can trust my basic self to give me honest information and then you get dizzy and you stumble across the street and you find out who's going we think looks like they belong there and you join them to get on your side the street but what this boils if you truly want to have a happy happy happy life you didn't think i could do it did you but i would personally don't argue with your wife she will be right ninety nine percent of the time the other one percent the time you will be just go along with the plan she's going to make you think it's your plan she got all sorts of things it's just genetically inherited since somebody back there did something to somebody and then here we are today but every time i get lost in the seminar and i'm and i do that all because i get lost i look around to see who's going to have my information and i rarely look at the guy to remember what's going on because there's and there's dumb i look around at the women because they'll go  they'll community if i get off course they'll go just slight body talk so when i'm doing a seminar or lecture i usually find four or five people in different quadrants and i watch and those i talk to the rest are you just listening i'm talking to four or five people that's all it doesn't matter how many are in the room and if one of them goes like this you think i don't do that yet and that's i do do that i've seen lot of men do that i've seen women do that too if i were to reincarnate back again i think i'd like to come back as a her more for  i want fifty fifty be smart no men think they're smart women older smart they just can't convince men that they're smart until they get in the conversation i have a brother and his wife is a walking encyclopedia of everything that happened in existence  and i used to go over to their house on christmas and set up the toys christmas eve for what was going on of course he was in engineering i was at college the major and together we got along real well together and he and i would sit and we'd be there for our two putting kids puzzles together and i would cabins in the rector sets and and all this and we'd be reading the directions and following him and put him down and she'd be sitting in the chair watching this and she one day is the last time i went there by the way closing words were they rushed they stand which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which occurred just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey of assault call this number one eight hundred eight nine nine two six six five you can send e mail to a service desk at m s i e dot au our jeanne or right to that which is post office box five one three one three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one dash one one three five this has been that which is what john rogers thanks for joining us and we've all experienced people looking at us as we travel and say who are you what do you do and where last tell them i wanted two words but i think in truth we could be nano lovers of god and lovers of our fellow man and there we are seeing the sounds of love and praise to god and we seeing it from the depth of beingness the vibration the startup order the energy fields in the body and it raises our energy and allow spirit them to easily touch em to us and we have these transfigured experiences not only physically but emotionally and mentally and sometimes we're not even aware it's happened until days and by comparison when we come down from that mountain so to speak into the world we reflect on how wonderful that last place was and hops how found thing happened and that emma the something wonderful happened and yet none of us know how to explain the words we're here doing individual world peace and the didn't start out with world peace with an individual peace because we're saying let us take responsibility for our own peace first and then if we're working with the roommate on this trip and we don't really have it going real well with that person there's no need to go to a peace conference we've got to sit down with that person and have a conference of peace and we're putting aside not only the differences of ourself with another person we're putting aside the differences of ourself with ourselves which is the great great journey of going into the spirit if you look up at the face now and looks like there's a smile the key thing now is you're here you sitting in the heart geographically of the world and you sitting in the heart of egypt and you sitting right in the middle of a biblical verse out of the bible dummies and i might be that they did one thing that we didn't do to have to the spiritual power and use it to move the earth materials the way they wanted them to you can hear life of egypt coming away and just let that be ok because you're sitting in a spot th certainly with a traveler but you can sure be proud that you're here and at the same time be very humble that we're walking in the presence of some of the most ancient creations that we know on this planet