hello ladies and gentlemen welcome to another episode of talking jazz with eric matel under host eric me until pianist composer and bandleader of the eric mintel quartet and on today's show i have got two of my favorite favorite people in the world i've worked with them in the past and a lot of fun and i and just it's a pleasure now that at least just sit down and talk you know we've always played which is great music jazz but it's nice to sit down and talk and get to know them a little bit better now over the last what fifteen and one of the things i always love to do on the show is just you know find out about the beginnings of like what got you into the jazz bug you know how did you catch it but let's talk about like where you were born or raised in philly yes yes or any look let's go like star all with you  ok and my sister is close to me there's like a seven year difference between the two of us so she had the albums and when i would go into her collection with a little turntable you know and play all history and how old were you then i must have been  i guess about eleven or twelve something something around and yet i always thought i'm always finding that we're going to show it's that age frame here that age range you know that you get into jazz you're traction so i do yeah you know if we're lucky enough to and i think you're always a product of your environment right yeah so you found you were playing the records playing the records and then i had neighbors that were into jazz too so i at the top didn't know what it was but one of my neighbors had a group called mo quartet and it was a song called the jungle and it was something about that song that attracted me and that's when i realize oh this is jazz and then later on i made a guy boyfriend and he was a jazz man he had probably even now the yeah and you saw that they were having a good time yeah yeah it's a positive music right you know right and that's one of the things with the show i am trying to impart on the community here is that jazz is such a great positive art form it's like the one of the last art forms that the musicians free to thirteen yeah ok and then you now when you know you have got like an unbelievable i mean just from that point i mean your career and just the people that you've connected with max roach and tell us about that tell us about like from that point where what happened what was the shift oh could tookie and we only have twenty minutes yeah but it was a new york in those days was a place where there was a lot of talent too where everybody would would work together they'd be referred people to other jobs and all that kind of stuff and that's how they all the time i don't have this information member asked what are good of all time when they try to tell me when billie holiday that and i say well my song to lady was recorded in the studio on the day that her funeral was going on up in harlem wow you guys are so working together how is it how is it working sometimes you know having two musicians in a relationship could be accurate and well it's like that and it's also a lot of fun and we basically have a lot of the same ideas bridges neighborhood concert that's right and we were going to take it we're going to take a look at this gas video clip so let's before we do that ok we'll talk about that when you come back ok ladies and gentlemen let's check out this clip elegant and what is this is called let it be yesterday let it be yesterday but it wasn't yeah he was a guy i met when i got now the army and i had to go to fort meade maryland whatever they call it which i don't like to think about a more say it three times yeah yeah because he used to take his band was called the j f k quintet and they used to play during the kennedy administration they used to play special events and stuff and jackie was a great jazz fan wow compensate you and oh yeah let's get blue note that well it was my second major publisher did i work with tell us about that because i was reading a little bit in your bio about that as well simply no and then you were in new york for a couple of years with me and two but you decided the heck with new york and yeah yeah i never i never did like new york you know as it was it was too cold and it was too much dog eat dog you know cold maybe not temperature wise but i know what you're saying no temper that's the kind of stuff i do with but he got me he had to do straight out for lion who was the owner of the company and he like after like what i was doing so he gave me an opposition so i