hope you enjoy this program for this week we're going to be interviewing matthew gordon with the help of dawn derrington don daring to is the founder of choice wellness center which is it eighty six hundred ruhr avenue north in seattle she is the most outspoken genius about the old toby strain about where we can go with this it's very interesting it isn't just about creating an organic medical care is patient care system across all of north america probably the world it's about creating a system of medicine that may have something to do with helping us through this time period in history for example cannabis probably will be found not only to remove just nuclear contamination from the human body but also remove it from the soil no doubt there are a lot of things involved it's very big we're looking at creating  programs that will help create training in every aspect from delivery to patient care patient care what's that involved how many people know how to put grow rooms in their houses legislation says they can have one thousand plant most of them don't know there's probably about sixty nine thousand future organic medical pat patient care patients in this state in this state of washington so take note i hope you enjoy this we're only try be medicinal with less than a discernable this is the plan for people that don't want to get stoned this is the plan for people that don't like marijuana this is the plan maybe for people to have around in case they overmedicate their other restrict regime purple so this you know people and it's real smooth and but it has almost it didn't do anything for me a lot of people don't like to see it tastes really good there's no high because the turkey with that will be begin to select a mother that is even the last of us so someone like that really doesn't want to feel anything you know but wants to smoke it they have it taste the best disapproval a great kid they sm bacteria and dead human body cells and that's it seriously you know bill with this is another and the things that we're talking about that would be all these wonderful things that work ethics and the plants humans need to consume and the how can you evolve if we're doing everything we can i know people that they exercise the right way to organic to go to the health food store every day they do everything they can in their diet and then you did that there's a something  in activity the c b two receptor is the cause of arthritis i believe that no but that's that's revolutionary nobody knows that nobody thinks that they think know that it's not ok but i'm saying a crazy thing but i think it's just because  all toby we know what it does we're going to prove that it is a printer how come people with arthritis have this it's not just relief from arthritis it goes away like me i had my finger my pinky hurt so bad i couldn't play guitar for two years and it's fine there's no pain there's nor traces no swelling but it was it was it was twisting sideways from the knuckle in a grotesque a way that that at my young age and it's strains we don't know what we're talking about it's not of the oh this is bomb that's not medical medical is this relieves my pain this is this makes me be able to move my arthritic fingers like they don't have arthritis anymore beautiful oh my god they are still beautiful dream girls are just the b near as good as the old joke so it kind of ruins the old toby you know but it makes whatever it is way better so it's almost like it and it's and unique it's like a new strain that no one's ever heard before as it had before that's very unique and really body is working on all cylinders you know now now everything's firing so there's no place for cancer diabetes high blood pressure panic attacks stress anxiety paranoia inactivity and generations in every way with patient testimonials lab trials they're the only one that i know of in the world everyone else has kids with and it's all all the strains that i know of r f one hundred crosses if one or two or three of four or got hundreds of combinations but one of them they hate this smells just like a girl scout cookies but now they've got girl scout cookies cone only strain they can stabilize genetics have a seed for me give you the munchies are so used to people still they're just taking the the strains that give you the most munchies and cross them and then they're picking the best one that gives you the most munchies and that's basically it but the genetic diversity is large and that's forming breeding that type of breeding but if you take that plant now that plant that gives you the munchies and stress it so that the female produces male palling and pollinate itself and get one hundred different plants every single and i was told by genetics and cannabis expert ok todd a lot of the oregon state cannabis consultant for the state of oregon told me if you see the plant you're not going to get a great very great genetic diversity he said you're telling me you get seven specific strains all with no cross pollination one seed from one plant subsidy he said i don't see how that's possible there's not that much genetic diversity but yes there is that much genetic diversity of people there is ok and what it is is winter leveling out in just that right because they're going to be changing in every single direction if you had a thousand plants from one plant each one is going to have connected to the profile that's a little bit different than the others a little each ones and a little higher a little lower in every possible combination and if you take each one of those seeds and grow it and seed it self you can mutate the genetics of kinetic profile in that exact specific direction but it takes two or three years it takes fifteen or twenty years thirty two generations and it's not done a good so it's it takes infinity really but to get to a point where it's one hundred times more entry inflammatory one hundred times of those are don't use the it's a good example don't grow with these they're not high intensity discharge lights what are these are bad bad light in fact i could get the same results from are you getting i've got to this is what i need i'm to the point because what i do i've transplanted i've started i've started between and this is a bad job but minimum fifteen thousand seeds and maximum probably thirty to thirty two thousand seedlings and transplanted and i transplanted approximately fifteen thousand plants from one inch to forage transplanted ten thousand plants from four inch to want to go and probably a thousand plants in my life in my life from one gallon to five gallon that's not very many from thirty thousand two thousand but i'm i can but i can't i'm not a gardener i don't know anything about plate syriani you know what i mean i don't know but i what i am an expert at is breathing selecting subtle differences in as line in a self seeded line very subtle differences and being able to extension weight them generation after generation and turned one plant into seven other completely different plant  out the future means from which you can create patents on what is a plan i know a lot of that how do you decipher the plans how do you interpret it that's all really is anyways we file this because this is what we've found it's on the record right and in fact because i've got a genetic code and chemical composition that i'm working with and i've got to meet personally i have to obsessive compulsive leak right have to bring this out at least twenty more generations and it's go in that term i have to go somewhere where i can have unlimited plants and so if i'm going to have this one chemical composition and genetic map of this one specific strain and i'm going to work for maybe ten or twenty or my whole life thirty or forty years on breeding this one no crosses this one strain and breaking of every genetic possibility and every canal benoit mutation taking it as far as i can go in every direction there should be a patent yeah for this one specific that i'm going to and i'm not going to take d j short's blueberry or shanty baba's white widow or anybody strange and cross it with old toby and  think canada's cups and sulk like you're going to have to still try just want to make medicine that cures met her stamp of meaning once this gets started the foundation for tracking it which now they're getting into something they're going to have to do beginning of something that's very very big meat for example not only is care especially old toby and being able to treat strains that actually help remove nuclear contamination out of the human body we can do that what would our children you know have to h you know other other problems that people have with the thyroid it's estates surgery and that sort of thing but got it that's an exciting concept it's very important to me because so many loved ones and friends of mine and friends of friends and their parents and family members and sharing let's for one have very serious they were a problem well i'm i'm hypo thyroid i was diagnosed when i was nineteen years old so i have been just really did that thing so i am very excited about this concept of this and i would be loved to to work with you on developing this because my body will tell you when you have experience oh the world's major scientific researchers that i talked are super excited about working with me my old job eastern strain my genetics and i think that the revolution is going to happen where we're going to because of the legalities that your frustration is the lack of adequate testing and that's because of the legalities right i mean it and indeed in the states where there it is medical there are some testing and something california is getting better and some places are getting better but we're i'm not going to be happy at all and tell the lab and the patient just like israel did get the lab and the patients on site and they breed the plant and they test every single generation and they even i personally i believe it was not a cross i don't know but i believe it was actually dialed in for years to less discernible high res the anti inflammatory  put if we can put in video composition of the elemental make a human blood and wheat grass juice and overlay of and it's exactly the same thing but there's one little extra thing on the we is one or two little extra things every single can was plant there's one or two extra things different so it's the did this plant michael to be the difference between my old toby and any other canvas plant that i know an incredible unfortunate circumstance that politics has removed this availability for us it just the difference it makes of people's lives it's huge when somebody like me and say see my  research cafe in seattle a few months ago it'd been able to smoke a bowl it would have happened there was evil do you need a release they do need to read every society in the history of the world has had some kind of substance or more than one substance to give people that kind of relaxation chill laugh take the edge off i think we usually use that phrase with alcohol a job we need to take the edge off we get so wound up and so stressed out about things in our lives and factors in the world that we do need to take the edge off so for to me i've really come a long ways i used to just think the only validity really was for people like me to cure cancer to relieve the pain from illnesses but that's really changed my view over time over the past few years i have totally recognized that this that we are very symbolically related with this plant we need it it needs us we are we are genetically modified wheat not the mint you know crap that is making people sick and making it into you who there didn't used to be close intolerance weeks or months and they created it they created it and they're going to create more and more another realm of debt however that works so what we're dealing with is the meantime we're trying to rebuild right now not wait until it happens but rebuild now an economy economy that's based on our sustainable health because we're entitle to that well here's the thing we'll if we're not healthy we don't have anything yeah i remember years ago i had an elderly couple who lived next door to me and i remember when they were selling their home and all of their belongings to go into a home that the husband said you know we plan for everything we have enough money we have enough friends we have a social connection more spiritually connected what we didn't plan on was a health hill which we don't have health and  actually quite frankly walk down the street and you will see the health of americans yeah it's dismal it is absolutely dismal we are grossly overweight we are lazy we are flabby we are weak we eat some many of them do not yes absolutely yes read my mind and not only i encourage people to grow their own and i know for some the yes it's in everyone is she's not everyone shares one should have a cannabis plant growing as a house plant if nothing else  a beautiful house plant in the world and then you can have the benefit of fresh right giustina every day with hardly any cost whatsoever because a house plant you don't have to get big fancy lights you don't have to give big fancy  because you're not going to flower it out if you just got one nice little house plant for old toby's the plan for you for what you're talking about i mean it just popped into my head right i mean that's the perfect plan in fact i would say ninety nine percent of all the old tilby plants that i have ever ever grown were chopped between two were consulting with him being consulted by barbara gordon you are consulting with and being consulted by a company that they call you yet they've been running for four years in colorado and there are scientists d s and researchers on both show him from california to colorado that want to talk with you and work with you and that have found ways of oxo of separating different them the whole coal process and process is changing the acids to neutral substances and combining them with multiple strains to incredible effect and they are going to work with you and marijuana in the car call the cops and they call the cops and you can pull over they can talk to you live your car and you to properly track many recruiting or a means of creating a record we're in coding writing down a record we're creating a scene a way that we can track something ok we're laying the foundation down the road that it's going to and i've got eyes if you guys are here with my lights come on in the bud room i'll show you what i'm doing and i'm going to compare that you know the lab test results with patient trials on the different spectrum certain flowering this way next there's the same nutrients ever so that's why they i did different soils i did the dr earth i did different light limitations rated twenty five thousand limit for square inch now i'm doing different spectrums and i'd love to have believe these where i could dial in the