over is in the koran it says that the prophets is the koran says to the race that the prophet says to them i do wells among you a life time before this revelation in other words the first forty years so this is an almost right the first forty years is a lifetime and some say there's a verse in the part on that mentions that god gave people  whole life and it's said that it's forty years that if you've had forty years on the earth then you've had a full life and whatever comes after is just bounty that you should be grateful you made it to forty so the human beings within this doing your realm have stages also and we'll get into that so that's  is it's a life now the first life was the life before conception and there's a verse and seven one seventy two in your translation in the chapter seven one seventy two when it says that when your lord brought forth from the children of adam from their minds there is see and made them testify of themselves to the all of adam's progeny every human being that would ever exist was brought forth on a plane in this pre worldly stage and they were told was brought into this divine presence and said am i not your lord and those souls replied in the affirmative bet actually hidden now we indeed you are our lord and we testify to that true worldly there's only one other event that we know of which is another contract was made with the profits that they would all tell their people of the last into the womb after a hundred and twenty days one hundred twenty days the this soul that was in the divine presence enters into the womb of its mother so for the first  hundred twenty we're dealing with a biological phenomenon that does not have spiritual life it has biological life that is actually the mother right the biological life is the mother the individuation of that thought does not come until one hundred twenty days one hundred twenty days it enters into the room and begins to experience and it's interesting because this is about the time well there were some scholars who felt that for four hundred twenty days abortion was permitted but the dominant opinion is it's not there are there are there is an opinion of scholars that abortion before one hundred twenty days was not and it's not considered murder before one hundred twenty days but it's considered prohibited by the vast majority of the muslim scholars  for a number of reasons one because it's an interruption of a divine process too because there is a serious danger to the the woman which is not permissible to put yourself into a type of danger  for something because the koran says you know that's up to god to come hush hush it said in lock don't kill your children out of fear of provision because it says  children are provided for they come with their own provision that's a belief in islam that your children bring their own provisions their food everything they're going to get was already decreed for them so you're not lives actually there's an increase that comes with children now during this time and it's interesting is about one hundred twenty days the heartbeat right is audible you'll start hearing the heartbeat and during this time the soul is in this this is like a bottle that every death out of these five stages there is a death and a birth so as you leave one realm and die from that realm you're born into another round so we are we are dying and being born into these round and during this time it's it's believed to be important for the woman to be in a good spiritual state and that these will affect the child what she eats making sure that her food is allowed also her thoughts her state and that's why in traditional cultures it was very important that a woman was felt very secure that there was an anxiety that there wasn't and this is why even with divorce  the divorce period is the entire pregnancy so that she doesn't have anxieties about provision and things like that and it's not encouraged to divorce during pregnancy now at the point that the child moves into the next stage from this bottoms up into the do nothing and that's why doa means the lowest world it is the lowest we are in the lowest world in this hierarchy of world when the child comes into the do nothing the first thing that is done is  the is recited into the right ear and the formula which is known as the which is done before the prayer is recited into the left ear and then you put something sweet on the time they like to some dates and put it on the tongue and the reason for this is that there are two important things that every human being should know about the the first is the one and the second is the had is the promise that you will go back to the divine presence from whence you came this is a promise you will go back to the divine presence because the child is moving into the realm of separation they are still in divine unity and this is why children are not in a differential state they can't differentiate at this point what what will happen is the the promise is the garden but the garden has a key in other words the garden is not earned but it's also not given without struggle or effort i mean the muslims conferred with the christians in that it is through grades that people are that people are are given the divine presence but that grace is given through effort in other words there's nothing that you could do to make yourself worthy of that grace so it's not something that can be achieved or earned but at the same time there has to be the move towards that that it's not given without that effort and that's why in the koran you will see verses that indicate that this is a reward for what you are doing it's a reward that is what is is way beyond whatever the people were doing but they don't get that without the effort so need is is this the when the child is born it is the wild and not so worried because they're not in the realm of the punishment they're in the realm of the promise and this is why children that die before puberty  have no accounting according to the dominant opinion and in fact one of well i'll get to that when we i might forget so mention this now one of the things that people whose children die before they reach puberty on the day of judgment they will bring water to their parents on the plane when everybody else is suffering and and then they'll actually be happy that that has been like the pain they had in this world is transformed into a joy in the next world and other people envy them they're envious that they have those children that come with this relief on that day and they seek out their parents they go and find them so the promise is what is in many traditions you know the platonic tradition talks about this plato believe that we what this world was was an arena to remember what we already knew in the world of archetypes before we came into this world we knew trues and this world we enter into forgetfulness and what we have to do in this world is wake up to what we already knew and this is the allegory of the cave of realizing that there is a journey to be made we have to get out of the the shadow show  which is really interesting because in a way human beings now if you look at film and television which are the dominant preoccupations of many many human beings now it's very similar caves because people are watching these images projected from light flickering on their t v screens in their movie theaters and they're in lucian's and there's this whole other real world out there and there are people now that are prefer ng this world of illusion this vicarious world this virtual reality to all whole other w the world that they're dismissing is still considered to be another television it's just a better program so that is the reminder to the soul and there's a belief that the soul hears that and it resonates and there's a there's a deep belief in the islamic tradition that when people hear that you know in law that it resonates with them that they recognize the truth of it  allah that's that is that is the i mean from the muslim perspective that is the reason we were created to testify to that truth that there's no other purpose and messenger of the truth krishna i don't know about because they are not mentioned by name but there are many traditional muslim scholars that said that there are high probabilities that those traditions were prophetic tradition that came to their people with their actually a latin christian term for people that didn't accept christianity in fidelis without faith the the believe the cathy is somebody who's covering up this truth that it's own full nose because these lower of passion have overwhelmed the higher as sense of that human being and they don't li what the implications of that are so they choose not to look at it this is how the muslims view it now once the child enters into this  it will go through five stages why is the warning that if you do not maintain your pre worldly contract which is that you testified to the truth of the lordship of your creator that you you're in trouble you're in trouble now there is a belief in the muslim tradition that if you have not been reminded you're not take into account for your forgetfulness because the overriding mode of the creator is mercy it's not grab the koran says the mercy has preceded the wrath and there is a tradition in which the prophets a lot is that i'm said that god has one hundred parts of mercy ninety nine he has retained in his presence and one part he has allowed to descend to the donya and it is that one part that a mother nurses her child with that fall the air raises her hook from stepping on her fall so every act of mercy in this world is only from that one part and the ninety nine have been remain in the divine presence for the day of judgment now the second stage is the stage of the lower world so you have the womb and then you have the child now there is some interesting thing before that just about the womb there's many verses in the koran like twenty three twelve and four twenty two verse five which deal with the phenomenon of the womb and one of the embryologist by the name of keith moore who wrote one of the dominant textbooks knowledge before i think it was maybe the seventy's or eighteenth century whatsoever and there was no detailed knowledge and till the twentieth century with the advent of a lot of the wrote him a letter saying you know you're wrong that in the seventh century there is very detailed andrea logical information and keyes more actually ended up going to yemen and meeting with this man and being shown all of these verses and rewrote his introduction to his textbooks and there are some videos of his presentations about that in which he admitted that the detailed information in the pot on is the earliest example of accurate scientific information about the embryo logical stages and somebody asked him if it was possible for the prophet to have known that and he said that unless he had  microscopic information and was able to go in and actually see these because it says in the twenty two five zero humanity if you're in doubt concerning this resurrection then know that we created you from and then from the drop of a c note as a really interesting because these are not good translation feminine form and the adjective that's used to describe it is a plural and you can't do that in arabic grammar so it was always considered problematic but the word shadow means th message is this intermingling of lots of things so the idea is that we created you from this see that has a intermingling of many of the prophet and they asked him how they are males and females determined because the arabs had a lot of superstitions about how you know there is stay still do this arab women will say you  know lie on your left side or you know they've got all these funny things that they're supposed to do if they want to boy or girl and and and they actually believe positions influence that sexual female and the male water race this is inside the muslim he said the female and the male water rates and the one that gets there first will determine whether the the child is a male or a female which is important for a number of reasons because women were often blamed in classical arabic tradition for having not producing males it was considered something was wrong with the woman and so that indicates you know that x in the y chromosome that you have the male and the female water and water is also used in the proton in many verses that are now interpreted to be the genetic material we feed them all from the same water but we vary them with that water and matt means and it will embed itself in the womb and actually will will break down to cling into the womb so and then it begins the to derive its nourishment from  embryonic sac and then it talks about being in the three veils of darkness in the koran which is more identified as these three layers within the womb and then it says and then from a it looks as if an arrow was told to describe what that was he would say even though it's still microscopic it's a chewed lump of flesh it looks like somebody literally looks like teeth marks where the where the spinal cord is