once again i'm your host darryn make brain sitting in tonight for alex jones now before we talk with matthews and i want to play a short video clip that i found on the nasa dot gov their official website and it is a guide to solar flares and i thought it would be a good educational piece to share with our viewers before we start the interview let's take a look solar flares may seem like far away events but they can damage satellites and even ground based technologies and power grids every eleven years as the sun reaches its maximum activity they become bigger and more common and that increases the chances that one w significantly affect earth so what are these solar eruptions a solar flare is basically an explosion on the surface of the sun ranging from minutes to hours of light large flares can release enough energy to power the entire united states for a million years flares happen when the powerful magnetic fields in and around the sun reconnect they're usually associated with active region it's often seen as sunspots where the magnetic fields are strongest seventeen and the flare was later estimated to be about x forty five a powerful x class player like that can create long lasting radiation which can harm satellites and even get airline passengers flying here the polls small radiation doses just worried about volcanoes because they're now learning that volcanoes aren't going off every million years or so like they thought no big ones are going off more often we're getting hit by asteroids more often it all brings into question the age of the earth i don't know how old it is four billion a billion of ten million i don't know it's clear those scientists don't know an asteroid strikes happened more often just like whenever saturn got hit by shoemaker levy comment all of that has really changed things but i do know from the physicists nuclear physicist many others that we've interviewed over the years and we've interviewed the director of the harp program then when there had been big solar flares that hit the earth straight on that the ionizing different types of radiation has caused all the power lines to blow up you know power outages there's even a hundred years ago so the question is if a big solar flare e m p was to hit what would it do to the hundreds and hundreds of nuclear reactors and you want to talk about a detailed report i mean it is it's long but it's a quick read with maps documents cases where reactors have already had trouble that i didn't even know about but when looked up it's true it's author of two bestselling books when disaster strikes a comprehensive guide to emergency planning and crisis excellent book i've read it but in two thousand and eleven and when technology fails a manual for self reliance i haven't read it yet but i ordered it sustainability and surviving a long emergency and again i'm for real sustainability not to counterfit it means build three coal plants in china a week and we don't get to have any we're just or cut it shut off our our oil and ship it all to china and  he joins us to go over what real threats are because they've got these hot dog people fox news took our headline and said homeland security hires winner watchers the hot dog vendors act like everybody's a terrorist you got a better chance being killed by champagne corks honey bees or deer jumping out in front of you look at the statistics we've gone over a mere show what are the real threats one of the real threats and this is a real one we've only had you know over nuclear power engineering on a mass scale the last thirty forty years and we've had it for sixty seventy and submarines but it's the first one was the nautilus or whatever but now it's proliferating and now they've got the greenies pushing in neighborhood reactors well that's another wonderful idea so  got him with us for the rest of the hour and then we have another guest joining us lawrence lessig he's an expert on the attack on free speech in the internet and how congress has been corrupted but good to have you with us mr ste is like a guaranteed armageddon this is an event that we haven't seen on this planet since sixty five million years ago when an asteroid hit or who knows what exactly happened but something wiped out all the dinosaurs in a short period of time and this is a totally devoid of bull of in so here's a situation solar storms hit our planet fairly often we've had in the last hundred fifty years we've had about one hundred significant storms we had one week ago where they had to really you know reroute some delta flights over the north pole because the ionizing radiation this was a this is basically when the sun burks it gives like a huge mess called  mass ejection when stuff from the sun gets launched down to space now when this happens all the time solar minimum solar maximum but most of the time it's not aimed towards our planet so it just goes off into space no big deal now and then it hits our planet well now and then it hi planet really really big so back in nineteen twenty one there was a solar storm where it lit up the sky blood orange green yellow streaks all kinds of things always in the north pole down to proto rico and haiti and always in the south pole to samoa so every place on the planet get this incredible light show except for a narrow band around the around the equator now back then what happened was like no big deal nobody you know very few  maybe a few people died some telegraph stations burned down pants and from station burned down from from induced current since started fires but there were no nuclear power plants there was no micro electronics there was no giant power grid well fast forward to today if we had a storm like the one nine hundred twenty one one that was ninety years ago and before that the next six dreamland before that was an eight hundred fifty nine call the carrington event similar light show only went on for one entire it was two giant steamy space five days apart one blasted and then a few days later another one blast the sun and it hit the planet earth and so the first one kind of got the magnetic spear spinning in all the electronic  interactions going on the planet kind of revved up like revving up an engine and then the second one hit a few days later and revved it up to high gear so if either of those happen today we've got over one hundred thousand miles of high voltage extra high voltage power lines uniting the grid in the united states alone over one hundred thousand miles so these power lines are going to act like a giant antenna and they're going to they're going to take this energy from space transformers that they started putting into our grid in the late sixty's mostly in the seventy's eighty's and ninety's they upgraded the grid in north america and what happens is when when it's grid gives that by all of this energy from can't you just go down you know the hardware store and buy a new transformer willy's transformers are like three hundred tons each and they're multimillion dollars and they're all custom designed in custom built so it takes three years now to buy a single transformer now one thousand nine hundred eighty nine we had a big gene a magnetic storm one tenth the size of the one nine hundred twenty one storm which was supposedly fifty percent less than the eight hundred fifty nine and so nine hundred eighty nine we have a big storm way bigger than the one we had a week ago way bigger and then tried a transformer in quick there knocked out power to nine million people who are something like six hours it also prided transformer in the east coast in a pride a transformer in in the u world we make about one hundred of these a year so we get two thousand where why that's like twenty years of production now all of a sudden grid down grid collapse it's taken a hundred years to build this grid up to where it is and image anywhere near like you're saying the one that had over a hundred years ago this would be devastating to we have any actuaries or ideas on how on how much would get knocked out yeah we're talking we're talking three hundred fifty in north america two thousand in the world for the nine hundred twenty one happen well here's the thing what bills since two thousand and eight they've had two different bills in congress and they've nearly avoid passing the latest one called the shield act but the shield act is still kind of silly it's like the shield that says what you we're not going to do anything where the government but we're going to make the utilities do something you know spend a couple billion dollars to fix this problem and then if they don't like it then they can appeal to us to get the financial help but the problem is utilities are saying we don't want to spend it so they're finding it honor amazing cerner this is so important matthew stein author of when disaster strikes someone technology fails best selling author m i t a design engineer and builder obviously as well as a writer and when winter knology fails dot com is one of the websites you can visit it's actually one he put out this big report four hundred sure knoebels solar flare a nuclear armageddon because it's bad enough to have years of power outages and problems in infrastructure damage but getting into the reactors this is a short segment long segment coming up mr stein but obviously it's the reactors are one of the biggest threats correct yeah the reactors are on the end of the world as we know it problem and this is the one where it's a no brainer we could solve this problem i mean there's no way to protect against all the bad effects of an e m p or solar storm but we can protect against nuclear armageddon now point zero earthquake it was the af the effect of the tsunami and all explained when the power every nuclear power plant has to keep its core cooled or it's going to melt down you're generating like millions and millions of use instantly in the in the power cord and that heat is used to generate all the power and electricity out of steam steam generators well if you stop running the fluid through that core all that extra heat going to go somewhere is going to melt the core down and the reactor so in fukushima blew after the tsunamis came in and wiped out the backup generators the whenever the great goes down every nuclear reactor goes into automatic shutdown mode where the reactor fuel rods and the control rods mesh together and start tuning it down but there's so much heat in there in the reactor doesn't stop like flipping a switch so you've got to keep it cool for the next three to five years you got to cool reactor rods after you start shutting them down so what happened then is earthquake hit reactor cut off from the grid grid went down grid failed reactor goes into shutdown mode the backup generators kick on the backup batteries kick like the the you know the big one we get an extreme one big one thousand nine hundred eighty nine kind of proms big one two thousand three fried fourteen transformers in south africa screwed up the grid for an entire year rolling blackouts the whole country for your probably fourteen transformers gone fast forward we get one like nine hundred twenty one we got a solar maximum coming up and up to twenty twelve beginning in two thousand and thirteen we get one like nine hundred twenty one they're really worried signs are looking like we might have a big one like that always said grids totally collapsed down for years in places some places back short term but where the dense population is that's where the nuclear reactors are that's where the grid collapses where it's dense that's where collapses now all of a sudden you've got chaos nobody's nobody's getting food nobody getting gas no pumps to pump no fuel refining the refineries everything down over most of the industrialized parts of the planet except for the deep tropical zones that disconnected from other parts of the grid suddenly the government promises that they're going to show up at these reactors we diesel fuel like clockwork to make sure they're all working all hundred four reactors in america we got one third more than one third thirty seven percent of all americans live within fifty miles of a nuclear let me stop you know i see where you're going there build on our accounts line seventy plus percent of our populations on the coast the fed just can't show up during the water a week and a half in katrina they can never help they can't put out fires in texas all the feds do is show up and tell the locals to go into their command and screw it up there's no way the sands a couple weeks into this they're going to be gone and those things are going to start blowing they're going to be they're going to start blowing out chances are that this solar storm will not screw up electronics in a small scale it'll just pry the grid so chances are that most of those backup trans backup power systems will work but they're only there are only mandated by the nuclear regulatory commission to store worker weeks work that you were on hand so when you go out and see this most incredible light show of your life at night you say man i can't believe it you gotta think if this is incredible goes on for a night maybe two maybe a week can tell you're concerned i'm concerned too and i make it my job to research this stuff i've read it over the years but never really consciously thought about this problem after i read his paper and i was like wow i've seen stuff on the news pieces of this where they had met it and then i saw the study he was talking about where he when the us government admits this is a serious danger and it's not like it's a possibility they know someday it might be two hundred years and not me next week meteorologist who have degrees in this on top of it who say the sun's get ready to go wild and they know this is real they know it messes up satellites everything and they know it's heated up the lines that people are hanging their clothes on the telegraph wires we're heating up red hot some of the early light system for blowing up so when the big one hits and but what's scary going back to our guest is homer simpson is sitting at the helm and a lot of these we're seeing all these disasters let me ask your view on this because i can't figure it out why do you think i'm as you stein why do you think there's so many more nuclear disasters now is it we're just have better reporting or these  aging systems why do you think we're seeing so many problems already well i think a big part is aging systems you know be the higher level of radioactivity is really tough on metals i mean you take very  boys to make the steel inside of these things in the things that were originally planned for twenty year lifespan now we're boosting forty fifty years and some of them so essentially we're just still we're not building new many nuclear ants in this part of the world though they've got  couple hundred in plans for other parts of the world and so this stuff when it ages they don't know what to do with it there's no place to put all the stuff in and that's a big scary part is that each reactor has something called spent fuel  been around a while or shame i had six hundred forty five thousand of them and they they blew for miles around yeah i think they had a spent fuel pond typically has more than ten years worth the reactor cores all of the reactor core stored under twenty feet water now when you cut out the power in a few minutes to a pew hours the reactor core will melt down in start blowing that stuff when you cut out the power to cooling the spent fuel ponds depending on how recently they decommissioned the core like the if they just unloaded a reactor core super hot and they will boil out that twenty four feet of water covering those fuel rods in between four and twenty two days so basically when the p stop within a few hours you're blowing the reactor cores but they're contained in giant massive steel containment vessels then right next door they've got this pond that basically is inside of a standard industrial tilt a building w recorded steel roof and they got ten years worth like over ten cores in there in that pun and in a few days without cooling pumps the pond will be boiling down boiling down boiling down in focus team and if it wasn't for the think that they're magic and have magical thinking and the corporations do and just say everything's going to be all right when it's not all right and radiation levels go up so i'm sure as you know mr stein they've just raised the level worldwide not just here to just say it's safe and as you pointed out rotting twenty thirty forty and fifty year old reactors fukushima was like what thirty nine years old had three decades of waste that they were even shipping out the as as as these things start blowing up and melting down everywhere now in almost a weekly basis i guess they're going to just say radiation is good for us because that's the new official policy now they're just going to they're just going to say i'm sorry we didn't know you know better than what they've done in fukushima it's just still sitting there on the top of the earth and pukki shimon i don't know what they're going to smoking it's still smoking yeah now here's the thing for about a billion dollars half the price of a still bomber there's new technology vacuum tube giant vacuum tube technology that can switch so rapidly to protect those massive transformers from great meltdown and super about a billion bucks they could put those in all over the united states to protect our three hundred  fifty well protect our lives like nine hundred or some of these or you know eight hundred of these three hundred fifty they projected to blow they can predict them for about a billion bucks for another billion bucks they could go to every nuclear facility and mandate that we store years worth of fuel and that we have e m p hardened containers on site with backup batteries backup generators and backup fuel so that any advantage stuff gets fried by an e m p or cooked by a solar storm and at least we prevent nuclear armageddon now you know i'm not so naive to think that they were going to just shut down those nuclear power plants instantly i'd love to see them shut down but i'm saying you know for at least for a billion bucks we could at least protect him in the meantime before we get these new technologies on line and can just shut him down for good if you want to talk about the different legislation and how we hopefully get this done but let me just ask you because you're obviously a really smart and you know tonight guy from your research why do the major corporations in the ruling class obsess all day and trillions of dollars a year to fight terrorism and have spies everywhere and a new report out f b i analysts internet cafe owners to spy on customers when you literally  better chance of dying from snake night or wasps or be staying then from a terrorist and i know that the big corporations make money off this and the people that are in security and government rotating revolving doors of the private companies when i get there making money but doesn't the ruling class actually care about stability don't they actually care about their own hind end because they're not immune from our nation why don't they care you know that thing is ignorance is bliss  the last major geomagnetic storm happened in one nine hundred twenty one ninety years ago and it was sixty years before this to do the math the averages every seventy five years and last was ninety years ago so we're like overdue now you know looking at ice core samplings they say roughly every hundred years we get hit by big daddy's solar storm you know what we're talking about now the thing is ignorance is bliss you get people like newt gingrich spouting comments about you m p which is a huge threat limpy is a real threat but the things he says are out now wrong statement that every electronic device would just instantly stop the united states wrong he clearly did not read the report so it newt gingrich who's you know running for president united states acts like he's an expert but given even read the report that i read i took the time to read it why didn't you if he didn't read it how many of these other guys have read it these guys are dealing with the five minutes the knob says that somebody briefed them on and they don't read the real reports and they just you know it's like it's like like you said it's wishful thinking like oh everything's going to be ok i probably and i believe in santa claus or to theory everyone the government will take care of me they'll come in and they'll make sure that those generators work two reactors one of them is one of the biggest research reactors in the world at the university of texas in north austin and grown adults laugh at me and say no there isn't i would have heard of it they could in thirty seconds pull up on you know the university of texas admitting in fact guys type in the university of texas nuclear experimental reactor but but adults won't even admit it's there because they might have to think about a threat i mean this is a new level of denial is a big level of denial and the fact that we can solve the worst problem the end of the rules we know it for the price of a single stealth bomber i mean it's just a crime if  they look at what happened new orleans the u s army corps of engineers said for fifty years that these levees were outdated and they weren't adequate and it was a disaster waiting to happen is not a question of if new orleans will get hit by a hurricane but when and what happen they even approach we did money for rebuilding the levees but they got spent somewhere else so they just kicked around and just ignored and said well ain't broke don't fix it you know it's ok everything will be alright and we lost most in new orleans well now we're talking about losing the world as we know it we're talking about perhaps the extension of all human beings on the planet for something that can be solved prevented for the price of a single style bomber i mean it's criminal and that's one of the reasons i wrote this article i mean i've been talking to the world's top scientists on this nuclear scientists e m p scientists military guys people who know about this stuff the guy john kass a man who wrote that the giant report  geomagnetic influences storms in the end the effect on the u s grid i've been talkin hours on the phone with these guys and they've been begging me to write this article and to get on your show and get only shows and they're saying you know man we've been sitting in this song for a long time and they agree one hundred percent with me about the four hundred chernobyl's they agree and they're saying matt you've got to get it out to the public because we've been saying it but you know we're scientists and we're engineers and we don't we don't get on public radio in you know we don't write these articles like you do for the for the common man you know we write technical journals articles so that they've been begging me to get here on your shows like yours and get this out to the public because we can solve this problem we can do it  well i'm glad i saw your report and i'm glad we like two hundred m four stars com because you are not putting a exaggerated spin on this i mean the only sane response to this is to have a debate and discussion but every movie i rant everywhere i go and just terrorists are going to kill you terrorists are going to kill you give up your rights you know obviously it's an excuse to take our liberties but the terrorists are real or not but meanwhile this this system is just so hubris filled that that they just think it can't happen here and i have top in genetic engineers on you name and i've got the government some reports were the g m o within three generations y sterilizing all the guinea pigs and rats and they're just letting us see did we see our health problems exploding i mean it's on every front it's like it's like humans have been given all this technology and we're still acting like like apes or something and just killing each other you know your said no they look at the data and say wait a minute we're not going to take your g m o they said no and in this country monsanto had their pot hands in the pockets of both the republicans and democrats they got their hands in the government and they got it wrong going through there is no drug in the world that would get approved if it had data like the data on you know i mean and this is this is something we're there's people running for profit and they just don't give a damn about the health of the world and the future of the world in the people it's like profit in greed is number one and i don't you know but what does it profit you if you make two billion dollars and then your grand kids die of cancer short term profit you meet the money now you live the life now and where your grandkids you know that somebody else's problem i don't understand it i mean it's not me i mean i wrote my book when technology fails and i have my house and i you know get all the equity in my home and three years of my life and sure and when disaster strikes i wrote these books to help people cope with these coming times of changing disaster in our world where you've got to be more self reliant you've got to be prepared you've got to take your own health in your own hands because the government is not watching out for you and if you're going to wait and rely on the doctors to provide you with antibiotics when there's the next  he was the first person i saw in about ninety four ninety five i know he's doing it for that talking about whether weapons and kim dray ling and all of this stuff and i remember thinking man this guy seems really credible but whether weapons come on that was before they you know had shows on discovery channel about it now more and more they admit they're doing it but again this specific show they say are classified it always goes yeah we're doing some testing but the details are classified well here is secretary defense cohen's a draft on april twenty eighth at a conference on terrorism university of georgia you can just type in secretary defense cohen on whether weapons and here's a quote others are engaging even in a type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate shut off earthquakes volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves so there are plenty of in  genius minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon the nations it's real and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts and that's why this is so important he goes on about whether weapons and things  here it's very interesting reading the army times also picked it up and covering that sense since i saw it then but the the the issue here is bill gates is invested heavily in whether control and secret government projects you can just type in bill gates terra forming investing bill gates is heavily invested in gut flora causing autism because they know they're doing it on purpose with the vaccines then they'll have the treatment bill gates has invested in the aluminum where military and proud of corporations are doing this i've had been levingston on who was the father of weather weapons after world war two he was in world war two he flew into not just hurricanes that go one hundred sixty miles an hour but two hundred mile an hour and more typhoons that they have in the pacific the atlantic has the hurricanes they don't get going as fast no one ever does they spin the opposite direction with the earth's magnetic vortex now all of this is going on and there's a huge secret program i've interviewed the head of harp he started accidentally killing innocent stuff a colonel popped in and cut him off the air that interview was out there that was like six years ago we're not in kansas anymore and more and more meteorologists are mapping this and saying look there are more tornadoes it's not just that we have more doppler and better radar so we know when they happen but now they're hitting populated areas statistically more than they did in the past in areas that were already built up some like we've built up more some more is being hit that's part of it you know cities are being hit more i mean it was like someone was cheering some said hundred form but more than a dozen that hit the ground eight hundred homes had carnage fort worth dallas you know again mild stomping around rhyme from and meteorologists are an m s n mishi calling it very unusual in or the fact that earthquakes are so shaded and tectonic weapons with aurora's forming even in the daytime magnetic fields like you normally only see at the north and south poles where the magnetic lines come into the earth and then out the earth's shield from the sun coming in at the north and southern poles you will see these vortexes form with all these other populations being hit until a and pakistan and hitting right in key population centers and what we saw a few years ago in haiti i mean it is getting really weird and they admit they've got this but it's classified and enter paul watson is latest article another was concert town reports strange booms flashes of light and it's getting crazy in the feds have said do not investigate and again historically these are associated in with these weather pop ups but again you can get flashes well basically have i head because of that ended up being a federal witness in the iran contra thing and being a witness of federales witness and relative to the christic institute lawsuit back in the eighty's which was basically a legal action on of racketeering filed against all of those people that were involved with the iran contra stuff they actually had filed that legal action as a matter of fact was right in the middle of it when i found out what kind of unbelievable lies and deviated stuff that was going on with the people that we were hoping were leading our country in the right direction the senate and the congress the cia the f b i these guys response to beat the protectors of america as opposed to being the drug smugglers and the assassins of america because that's what i found out to be a reality and because i was there i'd been there done that i saw it i sat in on conversations with these generals that were involved with the weapons and joking about where they were going to go next with the where the next war was going to be and things of that to occur and these guys profiting and of course had originally the tremendous amount of the the weapons in legal weapons stolen weapons and drugs  land the real big input was started in the vietnam war you know where they were smuggling the narcotics back into actually the carcasses of our own soldiers which i can't think of anything more absolutely disgusting than something like death and all of that dead it was a little wood would open my eyes all right so i started investigating and having people contact me a after at the congressional and senate level you know there are a few guys always up there that are honest and legitimate and they're not there very long because they either become removed by assassination for crying out loud or  simply removed by having the somebody beat them in the next election and by illegitimate voting or whatever the case they had but they removed the good guys as quick as they can but there were always some good people up there that were looking into serious problems so annan and time frame here were talking going into the early ninety's and i was investigating a lot of the and being involved with several different inquiries out of the senate and congressional level with some good guys donte faisel was out of florida was kind of concerned with the financial fraud going on and  several others doing things like that they were kind of under the radar these are not people to get a lot of media coverage but they're trying to do the right thing and of course sonny bono was another one had we get into that story some other time and we covered that last week so how did you discover whether weapons guns knives with here's what happened i get it i get a phone call because you know when you're doing this stuff i get all kinds really of the great stuff would people just send me information and he would say you know don't mention my name you know but if you want to risk your life here's some information you know i can get a kick out of that but so i got a phone call and somebody said  bell the weather control as a weapon and i said you know i was like you that was incredible i said i said what and he said they're you know they're working on this thing where they can control the  weather and actually use it as a weapon of war and i said well well i mean if you could do that that would be really something i mean you could wipe out a country either financially or physically do on such a destruction of things but but you wouldn't it wouldn't be like a nuclear thing in a way you you knew could place you can't go in there for a hundred years so that's not a good a good way to take over a country or cause some problems but if you could control the weather that really would be something and of course but my reaction was you know they will listen in a lie god's a hundred things to do this month so what next month i'll look into it and then he said well he said you know we have a treaty we have a treaty that control and being able to do this stuff that would really be something so i said ok i'll look into it fletcher investigations john is his website our websites are involved more stock com and prison planet dot v i want to continue with other weapons then i want to get bobsledders take on the endgame where all this is going what makes these criminal groups attack but i knew this was coming sheehan and weathermen blames tornadoes on climate change will try to play a clip of this later if we have time if not relating to it up at infowars dot com and sure enough when and where there's any earthquake or weather problem al gore says just pay me carbon money and i'll fix it and i've always pointed out this bill gates is pushing this too they can launch the crazy weather and then say ok as to global tax and that they're now saying pay for a global weather control bureau and we'll stop the tornadoes or hurricanes from heading in fact that's what bill gates is heavily invested in and we showed what like a reuters article earlier on that show show all of this is going on bottom want you to continue how you sort of looking into this and discovering it and how advanced it is but  clearly now this is like the mafia saying i'll burn down your grocery store if you don't pay me protection money i mean we know they've got this as a shadow government no wonder they're so arrogant it's unbelievable as far as ed's concerned i mean at this point in time they've been so successful all chilled you know which includes of things like you know the assassinating kennedy in front of everybody and all of that and getting away with it blowing up the taking down the biggest buildings in new york city and getting away with it telling us it was a handful of these characters a couple afternoons planned out of town to do this major gigantic of covert operations but anyhow  will get get back to the the weather situation so we in i hear i have a couple people telling me hey this is real and this is approximately nine hundred ninety four so i was doing some other investigations for someone and i don't remember who it was at this particular time actually in the congress so what i did was i contacted the united nations directly jittering with the telephone just call them and i told them who i was and  i want to speak to somebody about getting a copy of a treaty that had taken place several years earlier and they said ok they switch me over to the the legal department in the united nations and i was because that was supposedly done sometime around one nine hundred seventy six seventy seven and the lady was very polite and she said hold on a minute and she came back and she says i don't have anything on that i don't seem to have that usually put out for general public right now when i said that i had no idea what i was talking about in reality i was shooting a dart and here i didn't even know but i assumed that they probably had the double sets of book soldiers speak so she says the ok hold on and she says listen and she got back she says is it going to take me a day or so can i get back to you and i said sure i gave her my phone number and and i just said do have it and i found it and i can send you the whole thing and i said well that's just great and she says do you need a legal certification and i said sure you get a sense of occasion and also technically i didn't know really what she wasn't right in my hands and it's the united nations treaty to prevent the use an agreement between the major nations of the world to guarantee that they will not use the weather modification as a weapon of war against each other this is a treaty like we would do for nuclear weapons this was done in an ideal seventy six things taking place in the weather there or weather changes going on it might be put into strictly the category of natural weather change hammers has its size caps melting the entire general with the with whether control they have the moved from what used to be the or cake manner by which should trying to change the weather with seeding but with a variety of chemicals and things of that to is now electronic means to alter and control the weather and basically by using frequencies plasma b and show for heating the eye on its ear in a the tipping point area and that's where they can get full control they can create hurricanes stanford research institute certified it by sixty seven they can kill and we can make them stronger and steer them yes and that's the big point it's exactly what it what he's saying is exactly what i was about the say and that is that shit now there's three parts to this thing now too in terms of of who is doing it we are doing it we are doing it in proof us with under the harp program is only one part of it the the agar's in a grizz of the the antennas towers and all that up in alaska there is another location similar to that known around the equator area but we have moved into using aircraft and satellites i joe you can do it like a triangulation assassination would do with two or three people shooting at one person you have the same kind of a triangulation application with beings from two or three different places two satellites and maybe one ground base and  they discovered again and was as i think an accidental thing a few years ago but they had certain types of material etc would could could hold temperature if they were floating in the air they found out they became conductive to hold a increased temperature so if you put out a contrail in a given area hit with these totally invisible like a systems to beam data down over the horizon radar heating the atmosphere it's huge everything can send ned and that's the problem it does he gets into a lot of different areas and by the way ninety fo their entire whether as a force multiplier it was the entire concept of not only how they were doing every plan to do and that was being put together but global and the application of the military systems for weather modification operations by the way you said oh you know fifty sixty years ago it's all been declassified now the exact names that you view what they've just briefly or a couple minutes ago there's a three sided deal to this now we have what i call the covert government the secret government to just it's trying to control an end less of america's future time ago the russians were involved with us directly and lawrence livermore laboratories the russians were even given an award for their cooperation but they were here in lawrence livermore laboratories working  scientists on some of the earlier concepts on this many years ago so what happened was the russians back in the ninety's around the period of time that i was getting a hold of all of this the russians set up a company called a lot t and this was the russian weather control modification and they don't hide it that's why they cleared things out from red square events i mean of a they advertise a controller right there actually said town for a couple of hundred dollars american farmer could be a guaranteed rain over his area and all that and i don't know if they ever got to be good enough to do that but the but when they started becoming  running out of money ok when they all fell apart and all arrested ed they sold this technology that they had that they actually developed with us and in a hand behind under the table all right they sold a tremendous amount of this to the red chinese so rigid china now with all of their money see they were able to purchase along with these weapons and things that previously they didn't have and they couldn't be there's now they have more money than they know what to do with because we buy everything through k mart wal mart but anyhow they did so now what we end up with we have the russians with the potential the do it we have the americans covert operations doing it and we have the potential of the red chinese the red chinese whether control modification organization as thirty seven thousand and fully read my lips thirty seven thousand they will of course this is spread out all over they do a little bit of everything but that's how big the chinese weather modification operation is