really scientific so basically what happens think of your say your source code or you know some people call your spirit around you ok and so i say arms length around you know when i had my second near death i could i can see people's spirits so it's very different and or as so as i just say your source code the hologram that your spirit creates which is called your  body starts to do so i want to let people know that i'm not you're not pushing me and i'm not pushing you don't you are happening you know my body is starting to like move on it's right so your spirit is literally a projector that creates your body a hologram so we're really frequencies we're not solid objects here and what ideas i get to your source code or the projector and just like you know how you adjust the clarity of the  object or the movie so i start to clarify what your spirit sees your physical body as and then your body doesn't know say how to say create your physical form here so you start to shift you start to move around so it's more than just you moving around it literally is that your frequencies start to shift and as your frequencies start to shift your life starts to change from the inside out so and this is where radical changes come through this is where people you know can start walking day after session like this and it only takes a few minutes this is where  wealth comes in and more success comes in again it's from the inside out because you change the internal program so for you what you've done and again it's an amazing job that you've done but it's like through sheer physical willpower so you have that material layer what we call the physical world but the underlying structure of the material world or what i call the foundation nobody really accesses that except through the work that i do which i call exponential intelligence so what if we could change the foundation where the underlying program like i do and i teach people to do this by the way it's not just like me what you do is amazing it just like explodes what you do it just like the way it's like i was telling you like anthony robbins fantastic he's helped millions of people but they don't get to the underlying core to i  can help you change your underlying core right in like for example for you in a very short time because you get it at a spirit level you'll see that you just your abilities your success just starts to explode in just that general sense of well being that you've always searched for and no matter what you've done in life no matter how successful you but as never say reached that aspect of yourself now you'll actually see that space especially in your chest that warm you know connect a feeling that you've never gotten in say relationships or you know chaka calving kids or euphoric experiences or whatever else that you may have done you know with you know your travels or you know i don't know if you've done you know like i was you know things like that to say expand yourself it goes way beyond that specifics on what you've done is like you know you've seen all the parts that are in can grow and right you're very intuitive and then what you do is like you compact it it's like well i'm going to bring that in and hide it deep inside myself and over the years again through sheer willpower you've compact that it tighter and tighter and tighter and it settles like right here for you but it's still say you know exudes say all the toxins all the  distortions and it takes a lot of energy to really keep that tight because if you let it go right that's why people have to say motivate themselves or you know or psych themselves up to have a great day or whatever but if you're like oh that that tightness just explodes and then you're back to score of one that makes sense to you so yeah so what i'm doing for years like well what if you just don't run the programs at all you don't have to compress it you don't have to take energy right because it takes a lot of energy to keep that compressed you always have to be on guard twenty four seven even like while you're sleeping or not sleeping or not sleeping exactly so and that's where sometimes people get a restless sleep because they always have to be on guard but if you remove it and again this isn't about moving energy energies or very low level frequencies or the physical g s this is more say the god particle frequencies if you want to call it that  remove it and you just are this is what happens like with people with addictions you know for example a again fantastic organizations help millions but what they do sth through sheer willpower they teach people they not to drink but what happens is that they consciously have to be aware that right they walk into a bar and they smell alcohol they take one and they tell me it's like all over with right so it takes a lot of internal strength but what if like i don't drink what if you just change their program like i do you know because again it comes from the inside out you change their program and they have no desire to carry and this is where they don't need nicotine patches for example they don't need anything like that because the body just does not crave they any any addictive substances that they might have been addicted to are you feeling by the way wow pretty and it's very different than meditation or i don't put you into hypnosis and all that so it's very different than n l p hypnosis yoga all those things because it's actually the direct opposite although it might feel the same for i bring you into such a present state that you get to see all the shadows that you're not and you go oh let's just get rid of it and then your true brilliance comes in you feel your eyes light really really different there yeah this is just the beginning i mean you tend to want to experience things in take things in for a bit and then go forward that makes sense to you so you'll test that out and then you go wow this is the real stuff and then you know your life will just like expand so you are my last said yes yes and describe what it is that you do and who you are sure so through to near death experiences natasha of learned or i've been gifted with a what people call superhuman abilities to transform people's frequencies so if you go into quantum physics they tell you they talk about frequencies like everything has a frequency so i have been a honing my abilities to change people's frequency so i see you and i can adjust to you and then your life changes for the better so you know  you get i call it three hundred sixty degrees of abundance so you're healthier wealthier relationships your you know spiritual connection they all transform as i change you so change your frequency change your life w it's very fast from what i've heard so who were you before it was a i was a computer programmer well my first near death was in my early twenty's and i was searching for the answer because you know i wanted to know what that one component of a complete satisfaction or who we are right beyond wealth beyond all that stuff so i went into the religious you know aspects i studied the religions and it left me a lot of unanswered questions right because i'm that logical person you know has to say equal the bottom line has to equal a lot i'm not going to have like blind faith and go you know hey you know when you die then it's all gonna work out that's a lot of faith by the way isn't it like so so the religions in a work out and then i thought well you know if i'm really successful you know then you'll be happy because that's that paradigm right you make a lot of money you know you slave yourself for so long and then you'll be successful but nowadays through my business i work with a lot of millionaires or even a few billionaires and you know they have no time so they have the same issues as anybody else so you know and you know money wasn't you know is not that key right that emptiness that we're all looking for that connection so that first near death say really allowed me to understand that you know what we think we are again i call it the one percent of our physical right ice separated from my body completely and i realise that while the  the love that we are all those things that we're looking for is deep within us and i actually thought that so i know it's in there i mean i think this is very near death experience yeah i realise that you know i went through the tunnel of light and all  does on my website so that was a first near death experience the second near death experience it was a drowning accident at that level and this is what makes me different is that people go through the tunnel of life people right you've heard of  that there's an introductory layer where you know your love they say i saw my loved ones and they welcomed i went past that and then i graduated through the tunnel like now you're not supposed to come back you know when you graduate you're supposed to say that i got a preview on what's on the other side it's done properly so and at that level again there's no time there's no space you are anything that you are you know the amount of love that you have at that level is a million times more than any fork experience it's just mind blowing the completeness that you are obviously you don't need any security because you don't need money i mean you have you are everything but i went beyond that in that second near death i call it the beautiful blue space or nowadays you know i'm a computer programmer by trade i call it the universal database i have access to say all the knowledge that ever was is in shelby and and you still have x and i still have access to live from that space so i've turned it around so most people have a human experience trying to they're human and trying to have a spiritual experience for a more spirit based writer and then i have a human experience so i'm type tap into that potential so i had a couple of questions to ask you you know i had interviewed a harvard neuro surgeon who had a near death experience and that's totally living in the scientific model like nothing not happening on the other side right then he had a near death experience and he came back and you know wrote a book proof of heaven yeah you know so anyway one of the things i asked him was when you come back and does it feel like you're kind of come back into something that's a little too tight yes and no so the reason why i'm different is or the reason why he's different to me is because although he's more scientific from and i can tap into any money he wanted to say proof that there's something there you know because of his parents are so so yeah so if you're groomed you know to have this near death experience expand you to understanding so in my situation you come in really tight or it feels like burdening here because you can feel the beauty there and then the feel happiness here so yeah it feels heavy but in a very short time you get to start to understand and master this reality right people who aren't ready for it they have a near death that you know they come here they feel burdened and then this is where they have suicidal thoughts they want to go back so it and you know what exists on the other side of it right you might want to purposely go there true exactly if you think that there is no solution you know on this side specially when you see the other side and you go gosh you know and you're still running from the framework that you know you're still running from that one percent and as i said even if you've seen the other side you don't get it still it's life and that's why there's like suicide hotlines there's the highest rate of suicide for example for young kids who've had near death because they don't get it quite properly and they want to commit suicide just across so it doesn't help either right because you're still locked right you know so couple of questions so you have a not a teacher it's like you come to me and yes you know people's salute problem solving all that stuff yes i do that but mostly it's like i teach you how to say awaken to your own internal  potential and that's what it's about that teacher and that guide but nobody can ever take you into that space it's between you and your higher self or you know whatever you want to call it so so yeah i teach you there's a lot of people that awaken by the way the you know there's if you go to the website there's a lot of testimonials you know their lives come back together whatever it is that we call life you know it's been result i don't do any of that i don't cure anybody have not a doctor a marriage counselor financial analyst all that stuff but what happens is that  not awaken your internal healing abilities and that's and i do for you no matter what you do no matter what how many surgeries you have no matter how many doctors you go to no matter how many success courses you go to if you don't awaken that internal you know self that higher self you'll never heal yourself or your life will never shift or if it does it's very slow or if like in your case it has but it's you have to once you recognize the true reasons you were created you will understand the universe within you yes and all that and then there's kind of it seems to me that you said something about you know you find out why you're here right so what does that actually mean why you're here why are you idea that so most people go well the reason why i'm here is to save the world save the whales learn something it's it's got nothing to do with anything that we think it is right it's not to come up with a great invention you know we are all those things at spirit level you know the world is solved there's no pollution there's nothing like that so the reason why we're here is to actually understand say density but and i know it sounds kind of weird and it's very unromantic but at spirit level right you are all that you are right so you have to have a point of reference if you think about it so to create density is our point of reference we so creating human form is a reflection so to speak of what we are so i make sense to you but so what happens here or if you want to look at it at  religious terms is the reason why you are here is to create heaven on earth to figure out solutions that we can walk here in spirit form without having say this this this thing called the body  it does make sense and you know that whole concept of spiritual having a human experience yes but also i was having a conversation with someone the other day you know we keep we doing an important tuning and begging for this that and the other thing from a god or whatever and i cried one day i thought to myself if there is that god he must have a headache you know it's like all this noise this capacity of asking you know yes and then i  no he doesn't have to he or she or it doesn't have to do anything it's all here it's we just have to tap into it exactly and that's what i tell people you know you're exactly right on because everything has been giving to you already it's deep within you you just have to move out all the garbage you know from distortions from you know family lineage you to your understanding spiritual d n a whatever's come through that has distorted who you think you are three sixty degrees of what people are looking for you know you have that internal completeness and so i do then that it shows you your extra don't completely miss to your money comes in you know your health starts to come in everything again three sixty degrees of abundance yeah and i like that word distortion yes because that really resonates it's kind of like who we really are at the heart of it is spirit right and then in our human experience distortions occur right yeah and the store should i say it's a dumbing down process because if we knew who we are at spirit level we resonate so high we couldn't create density here we understand right they solidness here and i don't want to get into all the science because then it gets really dry but you know so our main theme over the reason why we're here  to create say so much of a higher frequency and still stay in physical form which is very different than earth heaven on earth exactly but this is very different than what people think you were came here because you did something bad in a previous lifetime use when god forsaken you you know all those things that are religious and spirituality in society things it's got nothing to do with that we didn't quite fall terrible isn't it though it is like oh my like you start out with all of this you know exactly you know fed to you and then it's like oh my god what's the point right exactly and it doesn't make sense if you relate i think about it logically this is more of a common sense approach about right you actually get to feel that essence here yeah what better than that yeah exactly heaven and hell we're going to invite someone else on the set yes that you brought with you so i'm going to take a quick break i'm sure i'll bring them in perfect welcome back my name is attached to sherman and i am your host and my guests today are my ass said johnny he is a transformational catalyst who opens you up to your limitless self and my other guest is debbie peterson ok when my son was seven my older son he got diagnosed with severe tourette's syndrome my background is corporate marketing and i did all the traditional medical routes the therapies the medicines anything that i could and i was basically desperate nothing was really helping and a friend led me to a chiropractor who does energy healing and very long story short he short him completely my son's about to graduate college next month actually so it's  awhile yeah and it's great to be because i really i really believe it was a miracle so from there i left my job and went to work for the man who cured my son and i wanted to get the word out to everyone about holistic healing benefits and you know really create awareness and from there i started the wellness gala it's been about ten years now and my goal is to really just educate created awareness on the holistic  benefits and to let people know the real they work and they work in conjunction with traditional medicine right so and how often do you hold these gallus we do several year we do about four really big ones and by big i mean like three hundred people  fee you are fit you are you have music and you get to experience whatever modalities you want to check yeah so i think that's what really makes it a little bit different we're in an upscale setting usually a country club or what have you and i think it's what is fun about it is that you can come in and you can experience as many of those practitioners and you as you'd like all day long and they're included and then we usually have a fabulous keno i guess today we did our first auto immune mosque was our keno quite a revealing it's a lot of fun is the thing a lot of people would like to try some of these but then they go where do i start and right where do i look and there's this magazine and how do i know where it is you're inviting them in and saying here's an opportunity  exact that's exactly and logically followed out with whatever resonates for you exactly so if you want to come there just ten minute many sessions right so it's just a taste and if you like it you can definitely book an appointment or go further and if it doesn't work for you then don't i think it's an idea whose time has come like so we have a minute left what would you like to say in this last minute well to understand the mechanics they can go to my  actual intelligence they could understand more about the science of what makes you tick reason why you have the life that you have and then how to have it all great and as a i would just like to say come and check