you didn't think it was a moral politics i'm your host bill ford shortly after the attack on the twin towers you fishel nine eleven stories born jets slammed into the buildings fires subsequently collapse story towers important facts were ignored or distorted some even claimed controlled demolitions brought down the twin towers which may implicate  it's great to be here with you is there are enough credible science there to doubt the official story of nine eleven the scientific evidence found at the crime scene of the three world trade cent highrise collapses is overwhelming in favor of the controlled demolition are you receiving receptive audiences well it turns out that every architect an engineer and others that we present this evidence to as i travel across the country and around the world we presented over one hundred  shows if you will to two people by a show of hands they are overwhelmingly supportive of the controlled demolition theory by the time they have had a chance to digest the information so it's it's quite convincing as it turns out and we have millions in the nine eleven truth movement now which is growing rapidly and in a grassroots way  becoming aware of this evidence because it is so convincing so eight years following knowing a lot of them and only recently we're seeing this groundswell of hunters it has a way of travelling slowly and by the internet because this information is not available in mainstream media it's not available in the official reports that came out by fema by the nine eleven commission report by nist the national institute of standards and technologies they did not provide us any of the evidence for explosives the molten metal the incriminating evidence in the dust the eyewitness accounts you think the bush administration kept a tight control room information well somebody did we don't point fingers the seven hundred architects and engineers that i represent signed on to our petition demanding a new investigation do not point fingers we just simply highlight the evidence and we'll let the chips fall where they may but recently there has been an increasing number of people that are waking up that their once something anomalous on nine eleven right and here's what they're waking up to in the case of the twin towers we have one hundred ten floors each an acre in size we're looking for those floors down at the bottom of the collapsed pile we don't find fifty we don't find twenty not ten not one floor what's happened to all these floors there's only a two story pile of rubble found at the base of either of these towers what you're saying that's then talcum powder they don't discuss the destruction of the fifteen story section of the north tower above the jet plane impacts which is supposed to have driven the rest of the building down and by the way at two thirds of freefall speed in other words accelerate and it's accelerating continually down through eighty thousand tons of structural steel they don't discuss that either they simply say the building was destroyed at ten to twelve seconds well let's talk about what that implies in order for a building to collapse straight down symmetrically and that in at that speed it's got and symmetrically we have to take out almost every column synchronistically time floor by floor and that is what the first responders heard in the explosions that they described one hundred of them but we didn't know about that until august one hundred first responders talking about sounds of explosions flashes of light at the onset of each of these collapses and that information simply hasn't really been presented to the public correct in fact it was hidden by the city of new york until the new york state court of appeals overturned the new york times lawsuit against them finally we find out why the city was hiding this information and not only are there sounds of explosions and flashes of light there's explosions going off ten twenty thirty and sixty stories down below the soap because the so called collapse that nist so neatly packages for us in their quote the final report on the collapse of the twin towers but the report stops actually before the collapse begins they don't go on to examine the structural behavior of the building during the collapse at all why because they have to they they can't go on they would have had to have accounted for all of the evidence for explosive controlled demolition you know you mention polarization which is rather unique to the twin towers collapse i've seen examples of other collapses of buildings in the there's a lot of concrete in the pile is it possible that there was such tremendous force from buildings being one hundred ten stories high that there was enough energy produced to pulverize well there's a path well there is about one hundred in ten thousand kilowatt hours of gravitational potential energy in each of these towers and so what does that energy have to it has to create molten iron several tons of it seen by the first responders structural engineers and others described in detail and seen in the video of the south tower pouring out of the south tower at out of floor seventy oh there's not enough energy to account for all of these energy sinks if you will it's there's just no way the gravitational potential energy alone can't crush eighty thousand tons of structural steel at almost freefall speed as if it wasn't even there this can't happen regarding the molten metal why do we have molten metal which steel doesn't begin to melt until twenty seven hundred degrees found underneath all three high rises  when when fires only get to be about fifteen to sixteen hundred degrees we were missing twice the amount of heat energy required to create this molten molten metal where does it come from now remember that when the molten metal idea was brought up  pushed aside at all as it turns out this is one of the key pieces of evidence in fact denied as you suggest pushed aside but john gross of nist actually denies that there was any multan medal he says there's no  it we have dozens of eyewitnesses we have photographs we have videos it's all all on our d v d nine eleven blueprint for truth and that d v d highlights all of this evidence in two hours of course we don't have time to go into it today but we what we do go into there is the chemical evidence found in this cooled molten iron and it's moment iron as it turns out not melted steel not molten aluminum from the jet plane scientific studies chemical studies find not only that it is significantly molten iron but it has small amounts of aluminum manganese in flooring these are the chemical ingredients that chemical signature of thermite and incendiary used by the military to cut through steel like a hot knife through butter and these chemical signatures are found not only in the pools of molten iron that have been cooled and brought up they called the meteorites but they're also found in the billions of spheres that are smaller than a human hair found in all of the dust samples that have been collected by anybody including r j leading the u s g s dr steven jones a physicist formerly from brigham young university finds that th ese are the clearly there's just no other explanation for them the evidence of ignited thermite and not only that in the dust he also finds these small chips of high tech nano thermite particles smaller than he a thousand times smaller than a human hair well what are they doing in the dust samples you're saying that there's plenty of evidence to support the microspheres of ira it's almost like a smoking gun if you would  indeed dr jones is not the only one who finds this there have been the u s g s the government finds the small spheres they have no rational explanation for them they just simply don't even offer one but how do you have billions of perfectly formulated spheres most of which are smaller than a human here throughout all of dust there is no there's no other explanation they're there found in samples just ten minutes after the collapse on the brooklyn bridge and collected there and sky skyscraper two blocks away from the twin towers as well so this these are documented in peer reviewed papers in the open bentham open chemical physics journal so they are indeed their peer reviewed twenty five pages been used for for i don't know a century or so it's a combination mostly of iron oxide in aluminum powders and you mix those in sept and set it off in it what it does is it produces molten iron as its byproduct and the off gassing of aluminum oxide well this molten iron is what we see pouring out of the south tower nist calls it a melted aluminum from an airplane but clearly melted aluminum it looks like they're very silvery it doesn't glow in bright orange and yellow in daylight conditions like we show on the video so this this is extremely compelling evidence again you mentioned the video told viewers which video you're refer yes this is nine eleven blueprint for truth available on our website which is a e nine one one truth dot org stands for architects and engineers for nine eleven truth now you are  the founder of nine eleven truth true three years ago i was on my way to a construction site and i heard dr david ray griffin on the radio i'm a reagan republican but i was listening  this day to free speech radio which often had challenge to me and so i was up for the challenge and i heard for the first time an alternative theory as to how these buildings came down never had i considered anything like this before i mean i was in shock the morning of nine eleven and it didn't look right to me in retrospect and i had something but we had never seen a building a high rise building collapse at all i mean there's been one hundred highrise fires many very large long lasting and very  hot much hotter than we had in the twin towers or in building seven but these but these he was talking now about the explosive ejection laterally jackson six hundred feet of these beams ejecting at fifty to seventy miles an hour outside the perimeter of the twin towers i mean how does that happen the physics of it is is just that four and twenty ton beams ejecting that far in a perfect  diameter about six hundred feet up to six hundred feet and we don't have a pile is supposed to be a gravitational collapse we're looking for a huge pile at the bottom but we don't see that it's equally distributed almost around the entire site in fact some of those particles are beings and columns hit building seven a forty seven story skyscraper just three hundred fifty feet away from the twin towers now this skyscraper was not hit by an airplane but it had some small fires in in it ten small fires documents and this building collapses on its own due to fires according to newest at five twenty in the afternoon a perfect freefall symmetrical collapse into its own footprint almost at free freefall acceleration in other words of this one accelerated as as fast as you dropped a brick off the top of the building straight down through forty thousand tons of structural steel designed to resist any such collapse the engineers and architects immediately recognized as a classic controlled demolition implosion whereas the other twin towers are very explosive events just charging there are debris outside the perimeter building seven is quite a mystery it has the same pools of molten iron underneath that it has witnesses who also hearing sounds of explosions at the beginning the onset of the collapse you are should know that you are a credit to architect gainfully employed in the bay area for many many years so these observations you're making are coming from the architectural engineering in fact that's why we've collected around ourselves technical building and other engineering professionals  so that we can have the necessary credibility associated with buildings so that we can become a body that is agreed upon so many of us now demanding of congress a new investigation now you you made a contrast between the twin towers themselves which are hundreds story buildings and the forty seven story building seven the collapses were different one was  implosion into its footprint the others the twin towers were explosions into their footprint again there's no good scientific explanation for for these collapses well there's no good scientific explanation is explained to us because it ignores all the evidence nist to fema ignored the evidence except fema did in fact document very carefully the hot sulphur corrosion attack on the steel in building seven melt tanks and so forth is used exclusively by the military you're could well know it's been used in industry thermite as well what's used exclusively by the military is this high tech thermite with these nano particles the thousand times should we should have wide widely available confirmation of that this is true and it's been independently verified by different scientists as well you're an architect you're leading this organization and yet we have a very highly regarded institute of higher learning nearby university of washington and to my knowledge we have no voice of a conspiracy coming from that institution  well this is difficult to stomach this information leads us to the inevitable conclusion since outdated didn't have access to these buildings you know who did since al qaeda didn't have access to this high tech  work we shift our whole focus and we have to look inside this is why you hear people talking about some sort of inside job this is extremely uncomfortable no one wants to imagine that elements perhaps within our own government industry foreign governments i mean we why isn't anybody in university of washington looking at this while most technical people only began hearing about this in the last couple of years we tend to rely in key off of experts who feed us these stories initially and then we let it go because this was to the psyche of all americans none of us want to go back into the nightmare of nine eleven but we have to because the evidence doesn't match up as we're looking at it now it doesn't match up to the official stories that the official conspiracy theories that we've been given by our government by the media and so why why didn't we hear the real question is why didn't we hear this from our media and we have to understand you know who runs our media there is ninety percent of the mainstream media is owned by four corporations who sits on the boards of those corporations point the same people who sit on the boards of the corporations of the defense industry the insurance industry the banking industry the oil industry all of whom benefited enormously as a result of nine eleven so a real investigation is going to go much farther than these buildings it's going to be looking at the dollars follow the money it's going to be looking at the flight paths of these jets  response by our air force to them or the lack thereof it's going to go into a lot of areas such as the put options where millions were made betting that the value of these airliners would go down the next day i heard about that and it seemed when there was a trail and never seen anybody followed up on it do you think it's even possible to get even at this stage an honest investigation into nine eleven if you if indeed this was an inside job by government or rather or at the potent enough to do for any kind of investigation well nobody is potent enough to foil millions of angry americans who realize because they have heard not from the media but from others around them and are willing to tell still others around them and this grassroots growing movement enough of them waking up getting angry and peacefully  demonstrating in till there is in other words enough of a groundswell will effect the congressman this is why we have people like his big new brzezinski comparing us to holocaust deniers in order to because they're here they're feeling this pressure already and they're having to respond to it and so there's all kinds of accusations crackpots they hate america  because your union official story is the one that is controversial all the coincidences and and contradictions of science and physics and the laws of gravity and none of the evidence goes to support the official theory of fire collapse by fire and gravitational structural weakening by fire and gravitational collapse all of it stacks up in favor of the explosive controlled demolitions which brings us to that difficult spot needing a honest investigation which may or may not be possible now what is the importance of this is it that we might have a recurrence of a nine eleven of event if we don't follow law excellent point if they whoever they are planned and executed one nine eleven then it's perhaps planned for another one after all what are they trying to achieve by such an operation and what happened after this we were in afghanistan and quite readily took it over invaded disk this third world country if it wasn't for osama bin laden what was it for well some research indicates some very interesting strategic goals of the of the project for a new american century a neo con think tank people should go to p neck and and google it and find out what were those goals because they achieved many of them including regional hegemon in the middle east they're trying to achieve them and we know the invasion of iraq was based on a pack of lies the word of criticism seems to be leveled that nine eleven truth engineer a computer model to see if it can come down the same and they can't even do it so there are the ones that are guilty of what they're accusing us of what we do is go to the science found at the crime scene molten metal found in the pools not  media the free fall collapse of building seven not acknowledged by nist until we forced them in a public conference to acknowledge it and then they still don't acknowledge the implicate of this that the street columns have to have been removed so there is a lot of science that's been yours they claim you're using it you claim they're using it facts just don't penetrate people that you know are on one side of the political spectrum this is looked at as like well that's the other side progressives that are kind of way out there and it seems like it serves their purposes and advertently are you aware of that yeah sure emon and this is why one of the reasons why a lot of people are extremely angry and telling everybody they know we're asking everybody to send the nine eleven truth dot org link to every architect and engineer that they can find because every architect and engineer who looks at this evidence and spends you know twenty minutes thirty minutes an hour with it ends up agreeing with us and most of those sign our petition and so people say oh there's all these architects who agree with the official story well not necessarily maybe they don't know what it is they don't know the evidence it didn't include when they do find out they're really in for a surprise they're shocked their jaws are hanging open and they ask lots of questions and they sign our petition and we've just been discussing the the structural aspects of the nine eleven collapse as we haven't gone and any of the other surrounding and consistencies and coincidences the bigger the imagination of anyone but i want to close with at least one question there are a number of different nine eleven organizations it seems like the old agree that maybe it was an inside job we don't know whether it was government or shadow government but there seems to be agreement of an inside job controlled demolitions pretty obvious and many people might agree there some of the theories on how it happened or beyond that get pretty bizarre  planes theory do you feel that some of these nine eleven truth seekers are doing harm well it doesn't help our cause to advance theories for which we have no proof you named one the no planes there's there's other theories that are out there energy weapons for instance so what we have proof for is controlled demolition by advanced nano thermite if we don't need anything else to confuse or muddy the waters so let's focus on the scientific evidence that we that we can all agree on most all of us and  and run that forward and when we put this in front of politicians media representatives academic officials engineers and architects they they don't they don't have they they end up agreeing us i mean they there they are shocked at first they want to understand the implications it's a new frame of reference it's very difficult but this is the evidence that works so be importance again is that if americans don't look into and get to the bottom of it it could happen again if it was an inside it indeed what are what are the other goals domination is seems to control seems to be paramount qaeda killed three thousand people these are not questions to be debated these are facts to be dealt with so he's putting his foot forward in favor of the official conspiracy theory and against the nine eleven truth  because he has to respond and it's also letting us know that he's not open to real transparency or he would be open to a real investigation of these events where you surely mapped out the importance of those who shoot for our viewers and at a minimum science is very compelling and that people should inform themselves better inform others and take this very seriously for its implications richard gage i want to thank you very much for appearing tonight and sharing this information with us thank you thank you bill it's great to