oh good topic for us you know this year we we thought about focusing a little bit more on some of the you know we talk about i mean here is and we realize that health and is one of the areas we're into a lot right  year's on the show so this year this year with kind of focusing on that continuing to honor and you say the same racket we've always been doing but in we're tying into the part of honoring you know how your health your writing your body right marriage yeah because that's all approach so we're very excited to have you kara welcome to the show thank you for having me i wanted to be here thank you so we want to know a little bit about how you got to this to this place i'm sure you had a corporate life so tell us a little bit about that and what made you decide to get into this area of you know business sure my corporate life like yours was in the pharmaceutical company not in sales i was in new jersey  d ok and in two thousand and nine i was reading a magazine and i was reading about the emerging field of health and wellness coaching so i did one of these  continue on my you know continue on building my career and doing that two years later i ripped it out of the file draw apply for the training and did one of these i don't know how i'm go for me it when i was reading about it i felt like it was a part that was missing in health care so we know so many times people go to the doctor or they or they know what they should do or they get told you don't go lose weight and what happens it's this big cycle where people just return same thing the only feelings that they're having is feeling like i can't do this  good enough so it's not there's no resource to really help people make those lifestyle changes and when i read about this field i was like a fine component of health care that's really focused on healthy change ok so i'm going to just stop there because when we talk to people about creating their second acar or these start planning for their second is it kind of happens in different ways it's a trigger somehow somehow it's you know being downsized like in my situation our previous guest we had her husband moved and they had to relocate to a whole lifestyle change and if he's all to that she started her business but also sometimes it's what frustrates you what is that thing out there that you know you know i know there needs to be something done at it has to be different so i think in her case it's just that no knowing there was a need out there and that was what triggered you and that was your that should be your journey to where you are now well i continue to write or write so i think that was the first you know you talk about it being a journey and it was and then i did also there was a reorganization and i opted to take my retirement and that's where i started to do a lot of unpacking ok a lot of unpacking of things that i had an interest in  that yeah so i always knew i wanted to return to do going to greater medicine and and get my certification so i literally almost overlapped when i started that certification training with when i retired and sixteen is when i retired and then january twenty seventeen i became a certified march twenty seventh teen is when i became a certified aids us grace educator so i just began unpacking all of these things that i knew i had an interest in and then i started unpacking things around programs other programs on healthy aging and i looked at it and i'm like what do you solve this are you know i have my company name bryce what's this all about and that's when i'm like oh you really want to build your company on helping people to age happier and healthier here you go yeah so what you tell us your company name because  really nice name how did you come up with that because you think life is like a kaleidoscope it's got many different facets and you know well there's an everything i was actually inspired by a quote by sharon salzberg which talks about health coaching as opposed to a health coach or an academic sort of approach to it like what is the what are some of the major differences the best way for me to explain health and wellness coaching is really that it's the marrying of the art and science of coaching ok with a focus on health and well being ok so those skills are still used the integrative approach allows us to take a bigger whole person approach to things and things that are similar to your life we'll right it's not what we all hear about diet actions and what your environment how are your relationships effecting your health so when i help clients we really take a with a family member or whatever rep that's going to somehow affect your health yeah it ok ok ok i got it and i know you focus a lot on design and invite i am like you know what how  not no so for me i guess what are some of the more common issues i think that people come to you for the united saying you started to see a pattern that a lot of people are coming to me with this complaint and how do you what is it and how do you go about a lot of people come with the two big east are eating better and exercising more right yeah they're both really impactful but i think it's also the limited view ok that people have right those are the only two things i need to do and those are the things we hear so much about and what we don't realize is that our choices every day have a tremendous impact over on her overall health ok though the world health organization estimates that in twenty twenty by twenty twenty two thirds of the chronic disease burden is going to be related to because all you hear really is this weight loss program this weight loss this exercise group this excites so is that so we don't i guess one thing your mind is just i just need to eat better lose weight or exercise but it's more it's sort of that i because i remember previous guests we've had he said the first the first thing he does in terms of his thing was you know exercising i sit down and i try to understand the mentally the mindset of why you know i know i'm supposed to exercise but why am i not why am i did not do it you know i'm saying why am i not doing so he tries to unroot that first because so i guess what i'm saying to you was in terms of your eating and so forth because we're so program it's a quick diet or just join this program how do we get a how do you get deeper to say no it's just more than a quick program note i'm sorry yeah and we you know we've seen so many programs with with quick programs and they don't sustain right you know because real change is takes a commitment right and real change takes time yes to really become a habit right ok so  really needs to become a habit so also changing our mindset a little bit because when we think about eating bad you know why why do we want to eat better why do we want to exercise really connecting and with why we want to do that why is it important to us to do that and i often say to people think about eating as your fuel you put premium gas in your car and you pay a ridiculous amount of money for it right but then when it comes to really eat a decent meal the way i'm supposed to so you grab whatever but bats i'm a totally ignored the the why i'm feeling my body when i do that right to be able to i mean we know we eat certainly us and we feel ok i can go yeah and then we eat certain things and we're like ok i can happen i do that a lot so we have our own sense here own body of how the different things that we put into it makes  feel so give us a tip on how somebody can think about this like right now what would be something really that they could take away and say you know what i could do this just just like one little shift yeah i think of take one thing that you want to change one small small thing in eating better so maybe it's just i want i want to drink more water or i want to eat more vegetables  and be specific about it because i think that's the other part and people say i want to eat better yeah there's a great outcome to fix great but how do you know what you need what you want to be doing right having that clarity  about what you want to be doing is really important cause then you have something to measure against but also you know don't take you by to do something small that you can repeat point is just you know just being very consistent and not like you say i want to eat better that's too big it's too broad right and i think you mentioned a good one that i often say to people you know we're we're busy  we're we're often running from one place to another and it's really important to try to take time to eat but it doesn't always happen so having what i call i have my travel foods things that i know i can take with me when i travel ok and then i have my my quick recipes right ok those are for just to be alive we're the one when you get home from work and you're exhausted and really want to eat well that well because when you say i think for me one of the hardest things i had to overcome because i was in sales so it's always being in the car and in my hose music oh i know if you have some of it because i was i would eat and you know i'm saying i'm like eating and driving and for me lunch was difficult to settle down and say ok i'm going to sit and have lunch because for so many years i never sat and had lunch i was you know grabbing something running in the car that i could you know drive in and do one of those so it was really hard for me to sit down and say ok i'm just going to have lunch because for many years that was not what lunch was to to me and it does it doesn't have to be long right right oh and i know i i mean coming from the corporate right there it's the same thing i wasn't in the car i was at the desk right now and catching up on the e mail at the same time but it doesn't have to be long and we actually give our bodies a chance to say we have food and who we give our our our whole but our whole capacity to say one eating something it tastes like this i like it and then we can walk often and also what gets underestimated a lot especially and is taking that short break can boost your energy boost your productivity switch i guess you first have to be aware of it before you can even try to me that that you know mindful switch yeah i think the biggest piece of the mindset is you really need to be ready and ready for kind of comes as a feeling right yeah yeah you know even in any switch i'm kind of ready you also need to be committed it's not easy it takes time and energy so when you're really ready and then it is a great time to start those changes and a great time to find a partner like i'd like to have the something yeah somebody's going to do that and also with women perfectly imperfect and really just appreciate the the changes that you are making and that may not make you six to one but really really be ready and committed to doing that i think the other piece is when people you know might try a change ok and it might not go well then you just give up oh well yeah yeah yeah mean yeah and it's that's where also having a partner can help right but it's also missed learning opportunities for you to sit back and say why didn't that work was it really not as important to me as i thought it was did i take on something too big ok and i really can't take that big a bite right now did i did i really rush through this you know i i i did one small step in a week and yeah i got it so this week i'm an add on i did it yeah yeah yeah so it's really too big too fast that's a lot that's big in what people do so really taking that and giving myself the time i'm going to go through changes i know everything's not going to be perfect everything trying to work perfectly but i'm going to learn from this thing right and i'm going to give myself the capacity to start again yeah being ok to start again being that is starting to be a huge yeah yeah huge ok and especially when because i think you're right people don't take the time to say ok why didn't it work well i'm going to say i know i would i would be ok it didn't work move on to something else what i think but but if you take the time to say ok it didn't work because i'll tell you i'm trying not to sweet it's not working it really because you know what i find that right now because just like a lot of things going on in my life and so a lot you know sometimes just frustrates me and if that cookie is there i got the cookie and i got pleasure from the cookies and then in my mind i'm like ok you said you weren't going to eat you were trying to like back away from eating sweets well realistically that was not the right thing to say i'm not going to eat sweets because that's not really true so in my mind i so i'd really be say limit limit my little leaning sweets by whatever whatever whatever because then that i think what you're saying what work a lot success from that to ok or no more than right right right so i worked with somebody that wanted to eat better and where we started it was really i'm not going to go out to dinner and even more than twice a week because she was the bring in fast food or you know the out exam way the bring in fast food and then going out to dinner and and she realized it was affecting her and her whole family so it's not the same for everybody to do that is the important thing to notice is you that there's  can can really guide people in with that with the behavior change right right yeah that's art that's our skill sets and working with you to really take your life and find that path for you right in making those changes right right right it's kind of like our own no regrets because when you said that it's kind of like my husband's accounts open people say i want to come and i want to do a budget while he'll say ask them first thing is this realistic because if you say you're not going to go out to dinner it's not it's really not realistic because you are it going out to dinner two times a week or whatever it is what you do that should be in your budget right so it's kind of like saying the same thing yeah i had the same thing yeah so in the couple minutes we have left tell us a little bit more about the age of that so ages grace is a program that i had been following for a long capacity to change our brain and our central nervous system and it uses fun natural movements to stimulate the five functions of the brain and also work on primary factors of physical aging so when we look at the two biggest concerns and i'm getting older i want to maintain cognitive and physical function right ok so this works on so i have been now been teaching for a year ok and it's it's a fitness program that's done in a chair it was designed to be done in chair and it uses just music in the background fun natural movement most people get a very good physical work out but also wit would like when you're sitting in a chair what would be an example of stimulating wanted to senses that's a good question so there's different tools and agents vary so one of them because of mentally how they are interpret ing aging correct and then and terms of physically what they're doing but at the same time it's also external because maybe the person that seventy five looks forty has family or friends that they're constantly doing things with versus the other person ok it's mind body and spirit all  we have to take care of ourselves and isaac lee spirit wise you know having that sense of purpose and that sense of meaning in life they've shown in multiple studies that it really helps you to age with less disability less disease and live longer right that the whole social aspect and having that purpose is a also a big component to our aging healthier you know when you said that that reminded me w my mom we tease her because she retired when she was like a five and when she did finally retire i remember someone asked her how you're doing and she says how you're enjoying she says i'm not because all i'm doing is going to fuel i'm going to funerals but she was always very very active so she lives a lot of people i think because she was always on the go but i  gracefully like that and yeah i didn't mean that i did it but it really gets us you know again it's all part of what we've tried to do this year and starting last year getting people to find ways to honor who they are ye