the author of the book my shoes i know my shoes are on tide mind their own business and it's an iconoclast view of worker safety and given everything that's been going on in the media i'm sure you'll be happy to watch and learn more from phil about what he does and why it's so important to all of us felt tell us a little bit about yourself well  thing at first and that's what makes you so aggravated right you're known as a person out there who really just take that to the wheat out of the rules and so on because it's so obvious to you how simple it is for things to be corrected right i want you to church in safety and actually say and you actually speak about this frequently around the world can you tell us a little bit about what it is that those companies are looking out for you and what do you see what are you saying to that which typically again people look over and say safety and they really don't take it to heart with everything going on all the time we need to know well people really don't think but until there's something horrific th learning sure and you know in the case when you when you're out there and i know you do a lot of presentations and so on when you're speaking and i know that like it's true that you say safety is boring generally speaking but you have these is the human resource department who what is that department that you're speaking to where that you really are saying to them you know listen we have to pay more attention to this there's some much more that can be thiis only done and it is  important because of all the talk about what happens to the companies and how does it feel like you and your family to have lost a loved one over stupidity i know that you've got a total take on this and i want you to go for it well i don't want t job and i think in your book i've seen it were that you do kind of want to direct those responsible at the top to the point where that everybody you know  they're doing their job they're trying to do their job but when there isn't any minding your own business tighter than they are doing what they want to do and so how do you get that change done to protect those employees car taking a risk you can't live with it but you don't know if it's uninformed right well it is just it's incredible than absurd to me how often we hear about these workplace safety tragedies and that with so many rules and regulations in so many other places that you know again when you're talking about training and so on just yesterday i heard on the news you probably heard here in michigan but i'm sure was all of a national news about a person who was stocking shelves at a warehouse here in new jersey that was right around the corner he died he was like forty three or so years old and point of fact it's not designed for you to hold onto down steps designed for you to so that if you start to fall in grams that break your fall  time can you tell us a little bit about your book you know really you have had international interest in this book all over the all over the world why do you think people are buying your book and what is the value that you think that they worker safety and again philip do you can look about he's everywhere but what i do want you to know is that he does not try to sell anything he is passionate his authenticity tour is actually saying the opposite of what everyone else is saying and not minding is what i find completely refreshing and i know you have to go because you are sought after around the world so i just want to thank you for being here give us a couple last words there fell well i would just  very very very interesting thank you all right listen we want you to know that we are our full supporters over here and we wish you the best continued success keep us posted on your next book that is coming out shortly as well thanks jamie thanks for being her