that is resigning here in north america as well as visiting with government leaders in washington and in new york and canada and we were pleased to be able to accompany you know much of his journey as  he as he went about meeting people and trying to spread the word as it were in terms of what some of the realities are in terms of that very very crucial part of the of the world the kashmir issue  comes to be known is a very delicate wanted to very crucial area of the world and is not nearly well enough understood by the by the american people the job will cashman jehmu in kashmir was divided the british left and by the rules that were set up that it was to be divided according to the desires of the people themselves and the various principalities and subdivisions and sections of  the country always decided all of that was decided more or less to everyone's agreement except the area of kashmir it was overwhelmingly muslim in its population and yet has been ruled by a into leader and it s continues to see human rights abuses as they have been documented by international agencies and he wants to bring call attention to that as well as to all of the crucial issues that are involved in this this this this this area of the world particularly since nine hundred ninety there have been generalized uprising as it were the population is overwhelmingly moslem and the u n has called in many resolutions that there should n under great attack by a great number of human rights organizations and others in the fight diplomatically and on the ground and otherwise has been left by this gentleman on we were very pleased to be able to visit with him as you talk to journalists and newspaper people government leaders and others of off the realities of the situation there and we're happy to have had an interview with him which is i've got many many different divisions of course within and politically and otherwise but i have a shared commonality in terms of the crucial question of the kashmir issue and at the very core of the kashmir issue has time current prime minister of is not to move in kashmir thank you good evening good evening walk very much to conversations where i'm pleased to walk the program a man that i hope we can help introduce to the american society was this would be another charge whether or not there is some militants there that are taking up arms but we have to spell out the dimensions of this because the because because the degree of human suffering that is going on it is a scorched earth reach up in the tens of thousands here that's right who have been killed  for longer and in equal dimension in terms of population yes the suffering and the so the moral outrage that ought to be felt by the world population has not corrected itself and these events that are going on in kashmir the way they have situation this is all being done right in the same time that there has been we mentioned it briefly but we have a whole if we look at the location of kashmir strategically placed between they can do and the muslim world with moslems being ethnically cleansed in bosnia being forced into a situation where they're being put under tremendous pressure by european people we have muslims in kashmir there are be ruthlessly decimated and what can only be seen in genocidal terms the islamic world ought to be very very much in unity it would seem to me in terms of the struggle and the suffering that so many sense of of unity among the broader islamic world about the injustices that are being delivered now upon branches of the islamic world that can be seen there are a billion some better than a billion islamia people in the world they ought to unite  know there's been so much of that propaganda being directed and again it's directed the way might be found it would seem to me there's been a great deal of animosity between us it's not necessarily either the indian people that we necessarily talk about that kind of a conflict that is there in that region of the of the world and it's centered in this really it's really important for the world that there be a solution to this long term problem the solution could doing you've been you've been you've been involved right at the very heart that you continue to have the tremendous loyalty of the people around you and those are kashmir a broader pakistan for kashmir interest issue is one that unites pakistani staples me that if there's anyone who can help elucidate this situation and put it in a world context it's fought on the front lines of a ball intellectually and in the physical sense to bring this just cause to that part of the world and to help spread around the world