beautiful people welcome to the dr joy show your prescription for total wellness and i'm your host dr joy today we're continuing our conversation on the college process a yes my guest is an expert with that because he a television show called the secrets of college planning i'm not going to give you too much information before we do work three deep breaths you know how we start with dr joy show are you ready in hair exhale oh exhale last one in here no exhale how do you feel i know i feel great well i want to welcome anthony over to the dr joy show thank you for joining me as you are going to help put lots of students and parents at ease with this crazy tangle we are of the college planning show and somebody may say so one of the view is may say well how does that apply to wellness well let me tell you how it applies physical pain and anguish although it could be great there's some stress involved good bad and  my clients are high school students anything from one to raid all the way to senior year ok so nine through twelfth grade yeah so that's fourteen eighteen zero all right your clients the parents to know yeah absolutely the parents are are what what drives the students to go to college now anthony how do you get started in collegiate consulting yeah so i started  in sports myself i played baseball all the way through college and then after college i went to college recruiting service and started helping parents and students go to college for athletics  ok what ended up happening is we did that for about ten years and then i wanted to the corporate world because the gentleman who owned the college recruiting service sold it off so at this person the whole company  and so then went into different selves positions and things of that like that and then about five years ago started back into the college recruiting realm again with my own service so  now i help all types of high school kids not just athletes but feodor and dance academics you name it that's that's what we do we try to help everybody now which is good because students need to understand that they all have talents is just tapping into those talents how has the college process changed from ten years ago to now so the college process basically the same from ten years ago until now that's what the show is really about it's about getting people to understand that the process really doesn't change it's really about the time to make those decisions the earlier the better and hamming admissions people on financial aid people on career services on coaches teachers professors students you get the same thing everybody wants you to start as early as ninth grade in high school gym even earlier than that some people are doing it more for athletic purposes you see it more for a lot of football and basketball you get you know your sixth graders seventh graders that people are trying to get but usually for others for like academics or band or theater or things like that  usually by some by sophomore junior year that people start realizing that they can do that at the college level so let's talk about i'm going to jump right in because i know parents watching all right yes of course they have goals and aspirations for their children they want them to go to college but you know colleges these days a very expensive i mean if you go to say a state if you're in state and you pay in state tuition it's still going to run your one hundred thousand sure so let's talk about the financially process how do you make it simple for your clients so really what we're doing in any  promote the students to the colleges if you want to get into financing and things of that sort there's a lot of financial planners out there that would help families to do you know anything that they need to do to get their sons or daughters to college and and find the right ways to pay for the college ok so mine is more of the approach of promoting that student so a lot of kids don't realize that you know a lot of high schools are not well known on in other parts of the country so so we sit here and princeton new jersey and if you can go anywhere in the world and say princeton new jersey there's no problem you go outside of princeton new jersey go to a different town every jersey and no one recognizes that town right so everybody can recognize princeton but they don't recognize anything else right right so that's what happens at the college level is that if you don't get promoted and you  tell people what's going on and what you're doing at the high school level the odds on them actually finding you are knowing who you are is very difficult so that's what the college recruiting services are out there for is really just to promote those students to the colleges and get them to recognize them as early as possible then the schools at the college level there's different things that different colleges do so you have a lot of division three type schools the small schools that division one schools are not fully funded what they call right so fully funded just means that alumni business people outside of the school are actually donating to the school right and so the school makes enough money to actually make another scholarship them for everybody to go to school there whoever plays a sport whoever does something that the school feels can give a scholarship that's where it is so you have smaller division one programs like mid major programs that they don't have fully funded sports they don't have fully funded scholarships which means that they don't have enough people standing the money to give the scholarship amount so they have that all that amount to give to that student so so they might only offer five thousand or ten thousand or fifteen thousand and fifty thousand know here school right so that's what starts to happen in those type of schools so you just depends on the school ok so are your clients domestic across the united states yes so there i get clients from all over the globe right so most of them are from the s right you know we do we do get kids from india china japan too so you they're all over the place so this crime a client type a kind that you would take into your program so most kids that come into the program are middle america you know they're there they're mad it's just you know someone now anthony this glad what middle america mean it just means it means that anyone that's a middle class ok so then the ninety nine percent ninety nine percent ok and so there are they're looking for a particular sport or a particular school that they're looking for and so those kids just need some some help in promoting them out to those colleges that's all that's all they need it's more like a hand holding type thing so then by the time they become seniors the schools can offer them different amounts of money based on who they are so when you take a student that is   most of the kids are playing a varsity sport you know maybe their secondary kids maybe there's this kids that are playing ahead of them that are really good but they're still on the varsity team so they they can go to a school th about the recruiting services is that a lot of schools people won't hear about so they don't know who the colleges really are right so the colleges have the same problem that high schools have right so if you're from a small little school in pennsylvania someplace and you've never heard of the school but yet they want to offer you money maybe that student doesn't want to go to that school because i never heard of it right but if they go visit the school and actually see what the school is all about what starts to happen is th student falls in love with the school and now goes to a school that maybe they wouldn't of thought of before so your service is actually and then them to what they would call college college counseling with that that sets within the school yes so so the high schools that it's your clients pay for your service for ok yes so so the high schools help students to go to school you have your guidance  schools maybe that they didn't tell the guidance counselor about maybe didn't know about that particular school maybe was a school in iowa or maybe a school in hawaii and maybe a school in texas that you know they didn't think about and so we open the doors a little bit wider to see what's out there for them just so then they have a better understanding then they can always go back to the guidance counsellor and said hey you know i got this school and you know i want that wants me i don't know anything about it can you tell me more about it so it's more of a back and forth type of environment so you facilitate the conversations between the students in the schools do you also do you also take the student to the school no i'm not so so we're not agents we don't help the kids go to school and find the money and things like that ok all we're doing is helping them promote them to the colleges the colleges do all the rest of the work colleges are of helping them find the money to give to the students the colleges do all that they they basically help the kid come to the school so what's the chance then of a student getting a scholarship whether it's academic whether it's or sports athletic so if it's just academics usually what starts to happen wh good on the track i ran track and field so you're good on the check but what i see that exact so that's the question exactly so it's something more that somebody else might not have had that's what the school is looking for they're looking for that extra  personality that the student has to get to go to school what ends up happening is schools it comes down to a lot of different factors with the schools to get different types of monies first of all depends on the school  well so so you have you have the smaller schools like that that don't cost as much right right so so it really depends on what the parents want to do with their sons and daughters so every school is different every school offers different amounts of money for different things so some schools because you're a woman you get money because of that right because your ethnic background you get money because of that left hand it if you're  left handed you you get money for that so there's a lot of different aspects to it it's not just sports or academics it's it's everything it's everything that that student is doing that's why when i talk to families it's really just about three different factors for me it's geographically where do you want to go to school that's the first quest that's the first question ok academically where can you graduate from you know just don't pick a school just because  know harvard is recruiting me or wants me great but then you're in and can you get out exactly get out me walk across exactly can you graduating in the graduate or is it going to be very difficult for you right so that should be the second thing and then the last thing should be the extra curricular activity is it the sport is it the band the theatre and dance just academics what's that extra curricular activity can you actually do that at the because some schools are not big enough where they don't have that particular activity right so if you're a skydiver and the school doesn't have a skydiving club well then i guess you're not going to be skydiving at the school is one saying is that in my you probably know this off the top your head but what are the one thing that a student can do while they're in high school that they can also do whether they're in college they can do every almost everything clubs so you know what are boys on the football team you know that they're all people that are going to school that i had the same as everybody else it's just that the the number factor is the key so what i mean by that is positions so if you're playing a sport and you play a particular position but that school isn't looking for that particular position well the odds on you getting into that school is really difficult because that's not the position they're looking for for that  ok so a lot of factors have to fall into place for you to go to the particular school that you're looking for and that information is information you would still to back from the school to your client correct saying hey yeah i know you're good at quarterback would just take football you get a quarterback and like guess what they have one great guy and two that's ready to phillis his slot for the next three years so your chance of getting into this particular school the quarterback do that in writing go three years without playing that's up to you so every that's why i always leave it up to the parents and the students because they're they're the ones it's there it's their life so they're the ones that have to pick the right school for them and that's why i always tell them start out with you graphically first because that's the key you visit the schools it's just like buying a house you know you just don't buy a house and say i want to live in this particular town and that's it you you go and visit and look at the houses and see which one you like and then you've you find the one that fits you say i think that that's the difference between now and like back in the day when we were going to school i don't know about you but i didn't visit any of the school that i applied to prior to gaining a misson just think you know it just didn't happen that way so i'm thinking now you know parents do road trip with with their to read i know we did we took them up and down the east coast we flew him out to the west coast went up and down that coast so and because that's what what's done but what would you say would be your hardest client what's the what's the toughest client or scenario that you have come to and through the toughest client is someone that isn't open minded someone that has a particular school in mind and only one school and that's it so that person  want to come on to our service because we might not be able to get them into that particular one school so they're better off just working on them by themselves and doing it for that one particular school wow ok so yeah yeah because there are some that and then they would e d and and hope that they get it right correct so there is there are a process within your organization within your company that the students go through and can you talk a little bit about that without giving away all the secrets i know well the process is pretty simple start as early as possible as well then one craig ninth grade boy early start if they start in ninth grade and that's usually when we accept them into the service ok is in one corner and what's the latest that you will accept someone into the senior year or first semester up until about november that's that's the latest that will go ok and when you're a senior and you're doing it what starts to happen is it multiplies very quickly and everything happens all at once yeah so it's very difficult for some families  to to pick a school because they're not really sure so when someone comes on as a senior we just tell them take the schools that are interested in their sons and daughters right because you don't have a lot of time to to really filter out a lot of different schools where if you start as a freshman or sophomore or junior you have more time to relax and go through each school and actually learn about the school before you actually pick a school your senior so if it's a what's the one thing that you would say in terms of giving advice for someone that wants to do a sport in college and they're in high school is there one particular thing that you would tell them well from doing the show for four years yeah i found from a lot of college coaches they they want to see an all around student so what means is they don't want to always just see a student playing one particular sport all year round so a lot of times those kids actually get burned out by the time they get to college because they've been playing the same sport all year round through but to mix it up you know they wanted they want to see a variety in the students so really they find that when students play all year round by the time they get to college they get burnt out and they're not interested in going on so a lot to get to college the first year they drop out of that particular sport because they're just fed up of whatever they're doing in the in the sport so that's what tends to happen with a lot of kids  at the college level to go to the professional level of football and basketball you're looking at less than one percent student it's very it's very slim is very highly highly highly competitive right yes so so go from high school or college there's a big drop off as well right all year so you know i think the statistics the last time i checked when just football there were thirteen million football players at the high school level at the college level there's only a million so what happened to those other twelve million kids you know they just disappear and then take it one more time go one more to the professional level anthony and the reason why i'm asking you to go there and you're quantifying this and it's really good this is a message to those parents out there that have seven and eight year olds now i'm sorry six and seven year olds that are playing flag is the flag football and they're putting the pressure on exactly but i think from college to the n f l and anywhere between seven hundred fifty and eleven hundred students that that actually graduate from college and get drafted in the n f l so we started it twelve million thirteen million east  scuse me we started thirteen million so one million and then one million to eleven hundred seven hundred fifty to love one hundred kids ok we're not even going to go there and that's so that's want the student to continuously play just in that spot well you continue and practice kindness sautter trying to make perfect right yeah so the reason why they want you to do other sports is to get overwhelmed rounded person ok and the more maybe do one everything one every season yeah and the more you can interact with different people you have different types of coaching yeah you have different experiences right different people that play different sports so you're getting on all around type person you not just always getting the same coaching the sane people around you and so on so you're getting a well rounded person a big example at the college level is when when coaches actually go visit the schools to go see the kids play right a lot of times they're not really watching the the game itself they're watching outside the game  student is looking for and doing outside the game with a passion people on the back are they saying hey you're doing a great job or they the type of person that slams the ball down and says you know this and man and starts cursing at people so it it just depends on what you're doing as a high school student and what the colleges are looking for every college is looking for something different because they're all humans just like us right we're all human we all have faults so everybody's got something that you know a college coach is looking for not looking for that's interesting that you said that because i made the assumption that his coach is a going to watch the student they're going to watch a student play the game not the other stuff who has learned something thank you very much because i'm sure the viewers can appreciate that as well sure so yeah all right so you scored a player do you not write and every extracurricular activity has that oh yeah sports yeah it's everything you know people do it in dance people do it in theater than people do it in an academic's yeah you have those people that are debate team  anything yeah ok so here's my question now with regards to how much does it cost you don't have to give me an exact figure because i already know that ninth grade to twelfth grade so what's the yeah so if you if you want only a certain number of schools you can you can pay in the hundreds that you want a lot of schools and you want a lot more work behind and you're going to pay in the thousands  success rate about ninety three to a ninety five percent success rate and the other wow i'd say the other percentages really comes down to the student didn't pick the school that one had interest and the student decided not to play anymore not not even to go to college right we get a lot of those where they decide just not even to go to college at all so that's where the other percentile falls this is all been very informative anthony and i do appreciate it where can people find you so they can they can find all my shows on  v it's a college planning that says show all right now specifically for your company website yeah you can go to university seekers dot com and just fill dr joy appreciate it until next time all right now your parents the parents and the children start your college planning early ninth grade eighth grade ninth grade i'd say started you heard anthony he's the expert he said the same thing and i good luck with that until next time be blessed stay healthy