well first i well let me backtrack a little bit i started going problems and that was a really big thing for me and then about a month after i started t kemah cross this activists marwood johnson and new york and all the things that she was doing for equal rights for women to be topless since many can be taught and i was research i found out about the band i found out how far it reached right and that's basically it they're right so he had a chance to go people were smiling in country me and nice and that felt really good right right right right now i've heard a few people saying oh my god the children and stuff by policemen right and i was terrified i thought they were going to grab me and throw me in i didn't know what to do and so i don't want to but i co right right so give us a bit of a few days i was about the other activist because i just read i just got an email saying what is her name again myra or myra yeah i just got an email saying that she just won like forty thousand dollars from a lawsuit against the new york police department because it is legal to be tough was there but the cops kept harassing her it's like telling san francisco so she got that someone i'm sure at this point more police officers are where i would hope after the l of yeah right so you know we're just making our full time job and get so tell us a little bit more about yourself ok so i guess you know i've never had a guest on my show like a transgender i don't know what you  qualify yourself as so i've always wanted to get someone i almost got one person to finance yeah but you know i'm always interested in interviewing people say fuck you to society because i was thinking  done you know so i really admire you for doing it and for being from the camera is just like really saying a big fuck you to everyone who refuses to grow up and open their mind you know and move for yeah like others and pray for me  so tell us a little bit about the transgender aspects like how this is i mean where you would kind of body were you born with how do you feel about it you know what just how because most people don't have the experience that i had they don't have it's very hard to even have a friend you might know someone transgender but you know the certain know how they feel or you know even the syrian how they are transgender because they don't go around naked all the time you know right it would be nice if we did but other people would realize hey there's a lot of people doing all kinds of things you know of the images from from society from media of the idea of being transgender and being so closely and being thought i was going to turn out to be and that were funny and and so it wasn't until years later when i was twenty three than i reached a point where i just i couldn't deal with misconceptions that everybody has including myself is that i mean i don't have any warm but i always thought that people were well if anyone ever wanted i always thought that's transgender people it was about pleasing men i always thought it was about you know getting boobs so that men were like you know how and then i found out like so many transgender people are into women and it's like they want the boobs for their women and it's like wow that's just totally like you know i guess i have this very mainstream kind of stupid idea based not based on fact so you know so you're not trying so it seems like those people were trying to fit in so they could appeal to the m without you know they're trying to be normal or something to that bill to the men at the same time being normal so they try to be like women so they could appeal to the men and be like normal regular couples but apparently it's not the case i mean if you're trying to be more like a woman in order to attract other women it's like you know you're cool being a lesbian you want to be a lesbian right and and it's like well so you're not trying to be normal you're actually going their own desires instead you know which is so much better than yes ok so you were attracted to women more right all that other stuff and the women that were into women saw that i had a penis and that was a turnoff for them so it's almost like a catch twenty two yeah i see i see ok well i guess it all boils down to this question do you love me for who i am want to be a certain physical form right right right right i mean we've had those discussions with my partner where you know it's like really we don't care how lonely each of us will be how how old how young i mean we have a twenty four year difference of this point like i'm twenty four years old and we don't care like what gender we are either like we you know figured out of that we don't care like what shape or form we would still love each other just as much and that's that's very nice as comforting for them yeah so so i guess you know i would think that by becoming transgender and being open about it will that not sort of filter out people who are like a little small minded more no not really you know i mean with this like it seems like i mean there's this one household i knew that was like pulling optional a lot of people who are new in this so yeah so how did that play out for you when i came out to the world basically well even before that like what kind of you know just how would it be different to be you know being in a man's body wanting to be a woman and having these you know things women's you know like you said whenever they're not attracted to men then you grow like the like the women of the men i mean how did it affect your romantic life like how d to from the staff at the school saying that i couldn't use the same bathrooms as women and when i talked to many of the women and no time had a problem with me using the same bathroom but as far as the teachers the staff they had issues with me using the same bathroom every minute me a lot of  how you are you have a partner now right yes obviously that person is cool and open minded right oh yes interesting thing with my partner she's also trance ok so it's  about two weeks after i came to this city and i didn't know my way around and i'm sure friend of ours here just mean two or and we just became friends right away and it wasn't until about a month later when we started dating and it just grew and grew from there  area she's not close minded her so she's very spiritual right and very inviting of everything and everyone what about your w i throughout the year i might go to one or two of fans but i hear about what kind of movements can you describe a little bit like let's say that somebody never heard about can you drive a general yes car when doing that they're singing and chanting and embracing everyone it's quite beautiful and but to go back when i went there of the kind of having any closed doors in your life i don't being able to do anything and everything you want to do that's not harmful to other people because society has all these barriers that they put on everyone else and if you can predict through full spare yours and do what you really want to do without harming anybody then that's moscow subways by myself nothing happens so to me it's like how can you be afraid of that it's fun it's a train i know but i understand i understand but to give you more real answer my greatest fear  or shyness yes it's the hardest thing for me to overcome and being topless being nude you know allows me to overcome that and from that i get this society in public with no fear of people being mean being angry vengeful towards me just became a war right we need to stop or i'm so much about everyone else start worrying about what's in hand right and i think if we do think about soft oh was a lot of problems had total thank you so much yeah thank you all right i guess this one i'm probably going to bring in kelsey to fill the next one of that school you're welcome to hang out and