healthy bodies and healthy minds and to have healthy homes so i have julie too well and her colleague who she's going to introduce and we're going to talk about the program and exactly some of the benefits and  communications manager with the alameda county healthy homes department and yes we used to be the lead person prevention department we still do lead pushing prevention work and i've been with the program over twenty years now and i'm a health educator late how do we define healthy home it is part of how you would you try to get across in terms of a healthy home well a healthy home to us would be somewhere where a child especially is safe there aren't any lead hazards it's dry and clean and mold free there aren't pests and that it's a safe place for both children and adults so we provide education we try to educate that person to help them protect their health we try to give them information and resources that we have available and other resources that are opposed when you first started the and this just led to believe moon holmes well when i started with the program there is a lot of ignorance about lead and people didn't believe in it didn't really think it was a big issue i thought it was an east coast problem you know that we didn't have it here and landlords were especially very resistant to believing that it was a problem that they might need to do something about and we've really seen that change over the there's a lot more awareness now there's still more to do but we realised when we go into a home we're not just seeing lead hazards but we're seeing other hazards especially to young children so we really wanted to address those also one of the bigs ones is asthma triggers because there's a lot of asthma in our neighborhoods here also so we felt like as long as we're in the home and we're talking about children's health especially we want to look at the whole home as being healthy again if you should is the key what change in your education of folks in the last i guess in the last five we try to educate people to let them know that especially around your children that there's no way to know whether or not their child has been actually exposed less taiko and get a lap lead test and it's really important for them to do that and how i go when i go into home how dare i explain that is that lead if i am it's not a like for instance if a child has a cold or chicken pox then you can tell right away that there's something wrong with do is expand our outreach even into the medical field to provide them resources and possible you know give them a piece of material that they can pass on to the family has a problem with so some of the core concepts of healthy home are we talked about definition of a healthy whole what do you think are some of the still some of the resistant issues in terms board we have a problem so in this mess is the folks well i think there are some groups that are still resistant some medical providers still are on board with that you've got a really advocate the say you know i want my child tested i think they've been exposed and also some landlords are still not wanting to deal with it so i think that you know well you know lead never should have been in the in the pain in the first place we do see more problems when the paint deteriorates so if you're living in housing where the pain is deteriorated you're going to be more risk  children get poisoned from the dust from deteriorated pain or from when people are doing renovations so very old neighborhoods like west oakland is very old those those homes were built at the turn of the century and have like multiple layers of lead based paint so there's more lead there and the older houses are some of them are very deteriorated and some of the people in the neighborhood all the homes and don't have the resources to fix up the home themselves and others are landlords who are not fixing it up so that's definitely a risk factor if you don't have control over your housing and you live in an older rundown neighborhood or where there's other sources that a child this t v thing a lot of times they will chew on the window sill yeah but that's also something where the thinking has evolved over time because in the past  the parent used to be blamed for the child eating paint chips and you know not disciplining them but we know a toddler part of their whole development is that they put things in their mouth it's a natural thing it's very hard to stop a young child from doing that the problem is that there's a very toxic poison in their environment that shouldn't be there and we've also found that it's really the dust around the home the lead dust you may not even see it it could be a pretty clean home but if there's peeling paint or friction service on the window there's a little almost invisible layer of lead dust on the window so and that's what can poison a child so they don't necessarily have to eat a paint chip in order to get poisoned if the house is not healthy and has lead dust in it because of deteriorating pain or friction surfaces with paint then that child can like nine hundred seventy eight when it was banned but there's a trial going on right now against the lead paint industry because we feel that they knew it was a hazard way back at that early one thousand nine hundred it was clear it was and yeah and they it's like a lot like the tobacco suits and they kept putting it in the paint and there's other countries that banned it because they knew it was toxic their workers were getting really sick and actually dying in some of the lead factories and they kept putting it in the paint so that's what the current trial is really about is saying they knew it was a hazard they kept doing it they should be responsible for cleaning it up who are the  it was past twenty years ago that's when it started the program as an assessment as our property really do feel actually if you own a priest seventy eight property then you're paying a ten dollars fee per unit to help provide these services so this is the really like that more people are going to be covered because one of the big problems is not enough children are getting tested for lead so we're really hoping that will help support people who haven't been covered to get in for the the lead test specially those with young children and we also do like the preventive aspect of the affordable care act and are hoping to work with potentially getting some funds to help actually do prevention work in the home including heart disease you yeah i mean we haven't talked too much about that but it's it's let is such a powerful neuro toxin and this is mabel said earlier and it takes very little and you may not see the effect right when the child being exposed but later on in life they may have trouble in school learning disabilities they are a little of a partner should be teachers either seattle didn't find right here its early school system and jones should be the damage really occur and that's when they're ingesting in their careers and that's when you need to stop it the exposure because later on yeah they're going to need additional services they may have hearing loss but yeah it causes brain  what do you see those services going just and talk in terms of just making homes more healthy from the construction in from a you know end user in d c yourselves advocating for these even before these you know  there's a big move to have a low income housing develop areas like marina really barking at because they think about the effects of it what could you what should those folks be doing to ensure that certified or or what would they need to have nurse do that kind of a we move or are it would you want to look for the person like that well yeah there's now a law that people who are doing any kind of paint disturbing home need to be lead certified and that means they should have taken a one day course and but the most important thing is that they actually use the lead safe work practices they learned and it's really mostly about containment it's not as specialized as we used to think because it happens all the time that people are painting their house and we need those painters trained so that they're not spreading paint chips all over the neighborhood and all the house that they're not bringing it home on their clothes or exposing themselves during the work themselves you know slow workers have young children that they bring their lead dust home to and yeah so there's ways that they very practical ways that they can do the work in a way that contains the paint chips and doesn't expose themselves or the families or the neighborhood sounds like education education has as it is and the axis should be directed toward making sure th small problem does become a major problem right exactly so we have a few more minutes but when we come have your thoughts about if they say to the pub about older layers underneath are still when they spray and any time that they're doing any type of renovation project where it's disturbing to paint if they're not just basically just painting over it if they're doing any type of paint remove or remodelling then they run the risk of poisoning themselves and their family and we do have classes for property owners they can take a class very it's the same class that we offer for people who are getting paid to do or properties it's called the e p a r p certification to or if they have a maintenance person they can actually send their ma if you're applying and doing any type of renovation project or if you're playing in ohio in a contractor please contact us we can assist you we can provide technical assistance that you don't accidently poison yourself in your family website our website if alameda county health the homes department that a c h h d that org julie yeah you know we love talking to people so please call us with any questions you have again it's five one zero five six seven eight two eight zero and please take advantage of our services and give us a call and if you have a young child make sure the child not important and they're going to go away and they will have an effect on us only to find out no they're not going to go away they can have a major effect on our health and i'm quiet wife i think programs like healthy homes