hey it is another all day alive there's been a lot of will there be a lot more i hope at least we can stay all day and stay all day alive especially if things are helping us stay alive i will be wilson this is the all day life program from seattle washington on commu access maybe nationwide here soon covering a lot of issues we try to do things for the community we hope that all of us can work together that's why we broadcast to try to help each other communicate i keep the door open for the whole community to be able to keep their door open for us all to hear each other talk to each other see each other think i'm for public access t v even in seattle they're working on are over two thousand programs in the last nine years and we're covering medical cannabis but then i got to get you and i've said that if you've watched previous shows o foods into pesticides so you can guarantee they're going to definitely reduce populations you won't have any problem you will be around if you eat their stuff we're trying to keep a surround we're trying to keep us as a means of a community working together especially when we got to twenty twenty two billion dollar industry facing this state in the face and it is interesting colorado and washington have now got the whole world watching and major entrepreneurs coming in the state they just had a big business conference here in seattle at the washington athletic club would have been nice to have gone there and meet with people but again big money's always kind of closed door kind of thing but then again we're working out we're the ones doing it now as we were at the five o two hearing on the twenty fourth of january here this last week by the way we're getting ready for february two thousand and thirteen by the way we need to all figure things out as a people specially with the global collapsing economy i think you maybe something you think about that maybe some of you don't baby some of you will be it could be something that we all may know all here the really do more than just think about but help us all think about resolutely resolving certain things in our way of doing things the war on drugs just a war on the people that needed them or used them and so the pharmaceutical has you know has thought of that like that but then again psychiatry's never cured anyone but they killed millions they try to blame all these killings on guns when it's mostly tracked back to psychiatry in neuroleptic drugs don't want to go there but that gets a little bit too much the fact that when all these so called people that are being forced to use their drugs then they use these guns but then they had the drugs prefer the guns as being found out and then ok so what do we do to try to straighten this whole mess out in this nation cannabis is one way of looking at it when it was bought basically tracked down to the big interests that made it illegal in the first place when it was the first thing that was used to build our nationwide economy it had the sales on the ships that made were made from cannabis the clothing the rope got us here you know it feeds people more than any way you anybody can imagine we're going to talk to matthew gordon here in just a minute about the means of being a stream doctor which he's now becoming one of the most noted strain doctors in the world organics train doctors that is but if we're building an economy if we're looking at creating a way of getting around a mess that's now ninety percent pirate growers in this nation and don't think that now the colorado and washington don't have the focus of those people around the entire country it would now appear that these two states are becoming also the pirate brokers of the nation in the in the world so think about that the black markets also going to multiply here as well and then mexico is also looking at x not exporting just bales of pot fifty five gallon drums of tinctures in oils watch that coming in from mexico with no oversight no means of making sure that we know if it's organic or anything so you got this mad rush you know i give people their credit for their endeavors for whatever it is they all do but we do have to and maintain clean medicine that means organic and there's a whole science behind that and now we have we were at the hearing at city hall here in seattle on the twenty fourth the board the liquor board doesn't even know what they're doing course  can you blame them they just got handed this thing so they said we need an expert who has done derrington is mentioned there isn't just one expert but there is a community of expertise that's a valving here it's learning it's gaining and sharing don thank you for being here it's good to see you and matthew gordon and to your left matthew give us the are you a you're a medical cannabis patient right and your name your  it's not like we're kind of like them they were the monsanto of this it's totally different you're doing it all naturally right you're putting the whole thing together in a natural perspective creating streams because cannabis can mutate meaning it's got incredible capabilities to be receptor specifically to deal with the cannabis planinica nana boids and that's part of what makes it so exciting is it's so responsive to us it is for anybody who's grown even carrots you know that they will respond well to music and to tension to and to voices the cannabis plant responds amazing you can literally see other little girls singing is what i say sometimes because we have this in because of this relationship this plant has so much to offer us and so much in terms of using it for specific ailments and people's individual and specific botany because we all have our own biology so what works in one particular way for me would perhaps not work for the same way for you even if we're taking it for the same condition we still have our own biology and so that's where this comes into play of really down for an individual's person but before we get to that fine tuning now we're looking at at least starting with specific developed strain development for specific issues knows about some of the specific strains that have been developed by recreational people just a lot of them just for flavor smellers girl scout cookies because it tastes like mint chocolate girls get a good tease there's  pineapple express it tastes like i now balders that pineapple because there's great babe it smells like grapes i mean they've literally and so you think about it if everyone knows that you can craft strains to smell like specific fruits and cookies and candies and things maybe there's other things you can change it to you know leg and so and i knew in the beginning that cannabis and everyone knows it effects the memory centers of the brain and it goes straight there so i thought well just because it's adversely affecting the short term memory of most people maybe we can turn that around and breed a strain that cures short term memory loss and actually succeeded i think it's probably i've been told by some very brilliant botanist some people in the industry in the in them in the science world that it probably was the most ambitious undertaking in the history of cannabis breeding and it worked and i'm now there's these other incidental things that this unique chemical company chemical composition of this plant is coming forth  n just basically anyone that's tried it so far has had just miraculous to rest results so it would say is if this was a pharmaceutical drug which of course it's not it's a miracle ter but what we would say if it were a pharmaceutical drug is that it was designed and created to cure short term memory problems to deal with the inflammation of the hyp my allergy with multiple sclerosis with arthritis with kidney problems with with liver functions but you see the reality is there is no such thing as a side effect everything does what it does what the drugs do the pharmaceutical drugs are they solve some problems and they kill a lot of people cannabis saves a lot of people increase in bruce the quality of the life of a lot of people's lives and it's never killed anyone nor will it that and that's even the federal government's own figures do you know are very conservative yes caffeine kills people water kills people not many thank goodness you know people have died of an overdose of water helpful in a unique way that other cannabis where provides more of a kind of a mind to hire a recreational fund this is a definitely a medical strain that really affects your problems in your body and i use this in a form of a team sure so i'm finding that i can take this team sure twice a day instead of taking a bike at him and i am therefore putting less toxins in my body i know exactly what i'm taking and e not functioning all that well and that contributes to the leg swelling and i'm on these i've been on these pills which are quite expensive and they take this one down but i can't always afford a men when i run out of  mad about seven months ago roughly and i've never been much of a pot smoker so i was a drinker but anyway casual conversation it came up about my condition and he was telling me about this one strain and i don't know nothin about strains are nothing like that but anyway he was telling me that is what takes down inflammation and blah blah blah and i was real skeptical of course  but i said ok turn me on to about a week's worth you said go ahead and try this and ironically it was right about the time i ran out of my meds and so like i said i don't i'm not really much of a pot smoker so i  i don't like getting stoned all the time so he suggested before i go to bed so i toast one up for go to bed ok but day three day four rolls around and by this time without my meds my legs are swollen up and i'm watching  marijuana patients do not snow and do not ever never slow and never will smoke or maybe they have smoked and they have quit smoking and they don't want to start smoking because they're afraid to go back to cigarettes very often the teen shooters can be very very helpful  interesting kind of kind of fun fun taste to it but that that it affects show a little bit differently than the direct smoking takes longer to take the fact that when you when you go eat eat eat or drink  cannabis it takes about thirty to sixty minutes to take effect rather than getting an immediate response but if you're taking a good as sort of a night time medication then it can also help you sleep to just kind of plan ahead like half an hour an hour out in the market today people have no idea what they're getting and that's why they run into unfortunate situations of over and over medicated or maybe using the wrong kind of medication or the wrong kind of delivery system for their somebody who's had an issue like dealing with alcohol or has damaged their kidneys or liver there's an excellent book out there it's marijuana is safer than alcohol and i highly recommend it to everybody to pick up in read it's very well cannabis is better now that's not to say i do not enjoy of course a glass of my lower right now and then probably has something to do with my age because i absolutely know that i'm far better off consuming cannabis in once one way or another whethe genetically breed which i don't think has ever really been done or might have been done but it hasn't been done very large scale might be kind of interesting that comes to pass that hops in cannabis actually get greeted together and i years ago when i would have male plants from growing out from seeds i would get them to my cats and failing that they absolutely loved it they would just go up on the on the plants and it's like a tree time they just l i didn't want to get off base before i forgot because anybody that's watching i wanted to let people know i actually am for sure disabled i'm really really bad but i was on the exelon patch  i've got up to eighty seven percent short term memory loss and i'm going to say a few things so that if anybody out there several of the alzheimer's early onset dementia or any have a memory problems old or young they're going to listen and they're going to relate because i forget that i didn't turn the door knob and i walk in the door i look left right and left again and walk out in front of twenty five times and walk out in front of a car i look at the clock fifty times i don't know what time it is i go home four or five or six times to make sure i lock my front door and maybe the third or fourth time it's not locked i'm drinking water and i forget i'm drinking and take a breath and start to drown and choke if you can relate to this then you know nobody can't make this stuff up i'm one hundred percent mentally disabled i can't i wouldn't be here without i took a spoonful of the blistering two hours ago old toby glycerin now i can have a conversation i can drive i can be on t v i can do everything now the perfect clear memory because the old toby and i created specifically for that and i plead with any doctors any researchers or any patients at all simers or any medical problem regarding their memory centers  friend told her hey this is different it is probably going to help your joints it's going to help your arthritis your hip and so we weren't friends or hung out or anything and she tried it and it was a miracle drug for her how did i meet mike he tried it through someone a miracle drug for him how did a neatnik we're not best friends for twenty years is when he tried a cookie and it was the first thing and it was just absolutely miraculous you know and anybody that i've known that's tried it only could could you talk a little bit about the pharmaceutical drugs that you were on and how long you were on them and what kinds of things that they did to your body and then i'd like to know if you're if you're still taking them now or if you're just taking the and anyway one is for like water retention and ice and you have taken both together one is really cheap one is really expensive i don't i don't know the exact  medical names or however you say it and what they're actually do but all i know is they make the swelling go down my legs and if i'm not on them and i swell up but they're expensive it one thing doctor even told me it was like i said because my liver is damaged from years of drink and even aspirin any kind of pills even the pills that that they told me to take is bad for my liver is like everything's bad oh yeah they were going to have it in the leg for years ago but anyway but the bottom line is with me like i said i'm not never been much of a all i can say that i witnessed it so you two are watching science project i'm walking there you go it's marvelous so you know like otoh we helps with many other things other than memory loss that's just insane it lee but you see like some of the reasons i think i need cannabis or benefit from it is i have so many thoughts going through my head and i have a really good memory to begin with and i have some like three things have happened to me in the past matic stuff you know that sometimes i don't want to remember soul but i did enjoy it's very beneficial in many other ways but for me personally i might not want to remember but that's ok right yeah it is great that we have both sides and what we're going to craft these individual strains from people there's going to be one that just helps you sleep one that just helps glaucoma one that helps cancer better than any other one there's going to be one that stimulates appetite for people that need that there's going to be one that suppresses appetite there is in fact i'm working on studies and refining the old toby and breaking it off and and making one just for edema just for arthritis just from a memory just for kidney fit which we haven't talked about but there's been just miraculous healings know why is it inflammatory it's not c b d because we're old toby's point zero three c b d and it's the most anti inflammatory plant i've ever seen in my life we need to do is go on and so we are going to get to the bottom  you get caught by the cannabis cops assault federal charge so it's kind of interesting as well the federal government still sends cans of three hundred cannabis cigarettes to patients to relieve their pain and save their lives at the same time saying that there is no no medical value and this is a very very dangerous job and of course we know that's all a lie we know number one it's not a drug it's an or number two it is medically in her villas and we can't have the the blind studies and the scientific research because the f d a won't let us and then the f d a says we can't take it off a schedule one because we don't have the scientific research that we will not allow you to do because it's on schedule one we get a real catch twenty two going on your folks never should have been on schedule one to begin with that's the result of richard nixon having a temper tantrum one afternoon and that's the honest to god truth that's how it got there i really i'm mystified as to why it can't be taken off of there just as easily it was simply the signing of his name and and president obama i would certainly encourage you to fix this horrible horrible error that was done this evilness that was done to the not only the american public but the entire world because we forced our our position on the entire world just kick it down to three kick it down to four take it down to five or kick it off the schedule completely we're going to go with this matthew can we get some insight about your perspectives on what it takes to be able to custom grow i mean if you're going to close to grow something how are you going to be able to determine that is going to be based only on the patien being able to help you determine that or what or how we were going to do that how's that going to be time and trials and screening and all that and think it patient trials and laboratory tests and but we're not going to do the two fold studies like that have been done because maybe the c b d levels are rising incidentally as they craft a strain that's anti inflammatory because of the patient trials you know because they're doing their ted ok the c rising every generation from seed and this is you know but why is that really is it really involved with the anti inflammatory and then they extract the c b d test and they say well there's no anti inflammatory properties c b d by itself so i mean there's just more questions than answers right now but i think it's because the researchers are using multiple strains if you use forty different kinds of cannabis with forty different chemical combinations how can you have it's almost like have to start over every time you use a new strain you can't just blend them all up make oil and mix them together they're just that much different like you said one gives you a headache one cures a headache one wakes you up one put you to sleep so if you're doing a study on cancer and you're doing the wake up stuff and someone else do a study in cancer and it's the stuff that makes you sleep i mean they're completely different so i'd really like to get researchers on board with strain specific studies first of all that will greatly increase and then have people  the growers and the scientists are completely separate just absolutely separate and what we need is consultants and liaison's and growers you know that are genetically mutating to strange generation after generation in medicinal or specified directions and in the scientific research alongside him during this evolution process so we can see the complete d n a analysis if you will changing in mutating and you know it's got to be that way and that will hyper in research within two and a half years we can have the best arthritis medicine the best migraine medicine the best cancer medicine i could go on and on and i have to say i just met  i see a huge difference in her mobility she's staying there i'm comfortable she's moving she's her flow if movements are fluid she's laughing i heard you going to the beach with your kids and stuff and walking a great acetaminophen and such it's just really not ideal but it's very taxing as a mom too so it's great when i can take it to her and not feel bob down mentally in any way but i feel like physically and that's what's amazing about this string of strains different every patient's going to be different and the more patients the more more lives we can change with the more patients that it does affect so yeah that the patients are going to be a very big part in the breeding process and and actually that the demand for the different strains to deter is determined by the patients so we've got to keep that in mind you well i agree seven hundred percent i do so i know i want to say one thing to you you asked me a little bit ago about the side effects of one of those drugs that i take for my legs one of them is  you from being in many aspects of your life being a total functioning human being and that's what we're all about is allowing every one of us to be as functional and is real and as total as we can be and to do that in good health and this god given miracle herb is making this possible for hundreds of thousands and soon to be millions of people to be able to improve the quality of their life and their life itself and mean you know it's popped into my mind just to let people know i'm almost out of my oh man i've got about two spoonfuls left and some conserving it in the other night starving and i tried to make a pizza and stood right there by the oven and watched the clock in the oven and it was ten minutes left and all that happened was the phone ringing answered it and i smelled smoke and it was just black true story i was there and so on the old toby i can watch a movie talk to my daughter and cook dinner and i remember everything my daughter says everything about the movie and i get most multitask and my daughter hugs me she's twelve and has her dad back and i just want to share that with abby i'm not trying to make money or anything i'm not grown and i'm not  say yeah my facebook page is matthew gordon old toby strain creator or matthew gordon old toby string creator you tube channel and then there's links to this show and there's a lot more yeah yeah out of publication is a nice thing about it is we're going to be working on some documentaries soon coming up with matt with a discovery channel possibly and national geographic and cup and meeting a lot of the world's train breeders and try to help them like shanty bob and the c b d crew and people that are trying to craft medicinal strains i'm going to try to consult with them and hyper accelerate all their research and  so far there's been a few people try to discredit me within three minutes they want me to help them with their stuff every single time so i know that i'm not just making this up but you know they were quickly going to go about two or three minutes left chris we haven't if you want to come actually seems to be a part of this i'd just like to encourage other patients that they should definitely try marijuana and try this all told me straight oh ok thank you i want to say something if you marijuana and you didn't like it you really should try the old what we shame because there's been a lot of people that a lot of the people think it really literally has the opposite effect of most of the cannabis strains a curious anxiety and panic attacks instantly my short term memory comes back instantly i can't smoke other forms of cannabis without very bad effects and it screws up my memory so bad i wish i had done it but the old is so even if you don't like in your an marijuana this is different another amazing thing that old toby does is it actually reverses that fondness that people often get with various strains especially the indicus and sometimes of the anxiety