good evening good evening welcome very very much to conversations where i'm pleased and honored this evening to present a really truly special guest a conversation that being termed yasser arafat's of the palestinian liberation from tunis and chairman arafat's walking very very much the conversation i wonder if i might be able to start the interview of the program today with a with two things one being an apology in a certain sense for the people of new york city in the united states that the extension of an invitation to you to come and address the united nations was not able to be accepted and i would like you to know that there are many of the united nations and in the united states that were very much should grinned at the fact that you could not come to the united nations at that time and secondly i wonder if i might be gradua establishment of the state of stein in the enunciation of it and the incredible events that have been aspiring over these last few months as it were like to do those two things at the outset and i wonder if i could ask you for the people in new york city in united states if you might want to comment on the recent explain the recent statement by james baker secretary of state in suggesting to the israeli side as it were that they should give up as it were their dreams of a greater israel and this is part of a realistic pattern that they should begin to accept and i wonder do you think that in any kind of way it is significant is it does it indicate to you any change in terms of the american administration toward the middle eastern palestinian question no different  few months period from november when an incredibly active and volatile an exciting time i should think from your perspective given the events that have taken place in the belly yes it was a true story yeah that is the story and not you know that  official or or are you more comfortable with the ability to be able to communicate with the administration now then you have been perhaps in the past i want to be mark to com here from someone you tend to think in terms can you make differentiation between american policy in government and maybe even nuance of difference within the government we've been in a very conservative period and the american people i want are no doubt sense of people trying to dehumanize others become oppressors they themselves lose a spiritual body that in the israeli state of the jewish people are losing by this process did nothing to see by the by the palestine a sense of a desire a true desire for peace is something that gives you does it give you a sense of optimism about the possibility for something something positive to  verse notion to history one of our great poets if i may james joyce had said at one time or had one of his characters say history is a nightmare from which we were attempting to awaken it is a story that historically we are at a time to talk with you and help share some of your views with the american public here in order to share some of these views in that we might be able to garner more support for this and perhaps begin to have the united states begin to think a little bit differently than it has been traditionally and i would hope we got through to some of the american masses here with this interview i certainly would like to thank you man but i do not going to be allies of peace yes indeed and we need that it is not only for your part of the world it relates to us all and it's no question is of greater important now land of peace and yet as they say breaking what that would be a marvelous adventure and i would hope that we'd be able didn't by that time to be able to extend a truly warm welcome to the united states and instead of the kind of rejection the united states offered more to you from some of the incredibly interesting activity of the palestine liberation organization here in tunisia momentarily please do stay tuned to be more coming up once again chairman arafat thank you very very much indeed and all the best of luck to you and you thank you for your good work please do stay t one that you do original print was done in thirty five millimeter but you've gathered many scenes from the west bank from palestine to give a good impression of the reality is there it's a it's a very very touching  tape now and again i do will warn some people in the audience some of the scenes are very graphic perhaps of the good of the truth and the reality of the situation he put forth in the video or in television so let's run that tape  the director of this incredible call some of the scenes are very very touching indeed it's i congratulate you on the film you said it was a difficult film to make it's difficult awful to see those images of such  topic area oh next week so that's it for this particular segment mamak once again thank you very much indeed goodnight we'll see you next week international believe that the governments who have adopted the declaration have a moral 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