and just give you a collection it has been a blast the summer and i cannot thank our guest enough from by on it man in switzerland to a teen artist here in america to our superstar therapist in australia  for now ca if i'm doing it correctly if i'm saying it correctly yes who was the inspiration behind by on it man and we are going to jump right in because i am super excited hello michel how are you inviting me to your show yes yes no no no we're very happy you're here so listen i want to jump right into the conversation we're so excited you're here now you  are the inspiration behind by onic man now just quickly tell us and of course we're going to show photographs to the new york new york viewers here bought by onic managers and it could be their first time seeing it you know but hey amputee and what i loved about this comic book and of course bush will end it in some things is that you touch on a lot of different topics you know for example animals and joggers and children so that is wonderful you also mike michelle you too on your instagram page you have a very strong sense of humor i see you with your photographs for example i remember seeing a photograph of you at the table or it was in some restaurant or something of that nature and you had your hand hidden and yet then you had bread sticks or something for fingers or whatever do you do you like or you were very arm and then you're jumping up there name a lot when i was doing my homework with only you you're very popular in switzerland but now you have you work for one foundation but yet you also have your own found is that correct you're invite you you work with one and it's going international and you are doing a great job so we really do have to show a lot of respect for that and appreciation so yes thank you ok so now as far as children go how important do you think it is far children who are disabled to be involved to have social interaction to be involved with whether it's sports whether it's the theater whether it is art you know whether it's biology you know whether it's a ski school subject you know we're going through a shift now in america where more and more parents of children who are disabled are allowing their children to get more she did know of course and she was like whoa you are such a poor boy you know it was like you like this but you can do this for like two or three months right are yes i have to told her i have to tell her and to the other really sorry i detached as well so i they continually told us that the university and now i'm at the university teaching and counseling other students but they said you know try to keep your emotions intact and of course that went in one ear and out the other but because at the end of the day i don't think this job would mean as much to us if we did not have that bit of emotion they are so you know yes how do you a specifically with you know and you did work actually read the disabled population as a job coach or something early on in your career that knew where you were job placement and yes on in from the engine ranks change right through i still work with people who disabilities now question under empower you know empowerment the second question would be social interaction and younger younger people with disabilities you know how important the social social interaction is  doctorate degree i did so much research on erickson and i really do follow erickson as far and particularly stage for industry versus inferiority which i'm sure you know very well aware of and i just want to get your take on own on that with with young disabled children and the social interaction piece how important do you think it is do you think it is important do you think it has a place and just you know what your overall  everybody else in community from is that and this is what i'm up going on classrooms yeah everybody got to say everybody's steve and it was beautiful and i'm still feel blessed to the state of being involved in that event so yeah yeah this nice segregation it's just rubbish yes i am so interested in this pageant i think it is i think it's one of the best things i have learned about since doing the show for the real why you say because so you have a fan base here in new york city yeah what about disability and pop culture in general and when i say pop culture i'm obviously speaking of the media in all aspects whether it be movies t v you know journalism fashion we are making some progress but i think we have a good bit to go yet and so that's one question and sit back and like how did this happen and how did you know i didn't like the word luck because i really don't feel as a real thing like look it's merely taking advantage of an opportunity it's in front of you you know and and working your butt off like the harder you work the more lucky you get so it's like all of this is a byproduct of hard work but i still have to sit back and be like like how did i how did i get here like it's surreal for me to see you know like this shirt i'm wearing right here like  there's a country musician who's a friend of mine in stoney larue and he has like four hundred thousand followers on facebook alone and he wears archer all the time you know and so logan the artist of this shirt you know like there was just recently  think it was creeping up on like seven hundred fifty thousand views you know so he was logan getting to know that seven hundred fifty thousand people loan you know have seen this video start of the roof where in his shirt and that's to me that's so surreal to think that that many people you know have seen study weren't logan shared that is great it's a great thing you've done i really i really do appreciate it and i think so many other people do you know again we spoke about madeline stewart you know she's a supermodel  i love her t shirt so you know you got the whole nine yards there you've got people with recognition putting shirts together and and people like me who are not famous can where somebody is somebody that somebody to be a source of confidence and it seems to also be a source of motivation and you know not everybody does have not everybody has that one certain talent or skill that they have that source and you know as an educator and a counselor you know as a professor you know i mean i wish everyone would be so passionate about something you know as a parallel to you and your art work and your your future art career so maybe again the both of you i would like to hear just from the both of you how important do you think the younger the better listless phrase it that way the younger the better finding that one certain aspect are quality or skill or is but when you said that you all were willing to foster you know lily's interest that that probably was was a crucial aspect of her childhood as well as with any ch childhood you know whether you know they're able bodied or disable you know everyone needs that one certain skill tallit a quality to you know make them who they are and what i as i was doing my homework only that was one thing that i really did appreciate is that you know she has you know found that that one talent that really brings her and who she is together and you know that's that's why lily you are an internet sensation and you know i have all of these followers on instagram but there you have i cannot thank our just enough i cannot thank