voted the best mediterranean restaurant in and imo twelve times alexandra's be located at northfield and bowen road past past best to blackey speciality alexandra's has been voted no one was best for good reason launches grik specials are happening morning marjorie stewart is here in the studio good morning margery good morning suzanne tell us what you have for us today well today we're going to talk about the whole global film festival which takes place  no would you like to tell us what brought you into an interest in this festival well if i can be honest in my second year university i'm in my fourth year right now of digital media studies and we need to do ten hours of production work in one of my classes and the festival was brought up so i joined as a volunteer doing tech and i've loved it ever since and this is no going to be my fourth year with the festival and i think maybe one of your professors is very deeply involved with it is that the case yes robyn davies yes and back in the days when i was on that committee he was certainly a breath of fresh air and a tremendous infusion of energy and  critical thinking about media of course because that says philip said he's too so good so that's your field of study straight did oh yeah tell us a little bit about digital media well there's a wide variety of classes you can take there's digital media studies which is more of the production side and then there's media studies which is more the theory behind media communications that ok so this involvement in a in a film festival became a natural for you well i'm very much into film production and this is been a great way to learn more about it and see films that i may not have seen otherwise and know to then we manage to get some directors of the films who want to actually travel with their film and talk questions about techniques yeah and then what interests me about getting the media studies people involved in this film festival instead of us old fuddy duddies who just want to have the stuff will prepare done for us and get the information out we have people who are looking at it with a critical eye and they're looking at production values suddenly looking at what worked and what didn't work and i remember we had a long conversation one year whether films were edgy enough and i got film festival is not very far from us in fact it's a package deal that comes down to us from courtney and first of all they do the film festival in court so they will have screened it before we see it so anybody so having trouble deciding how they can get to see all the films and i'm a could always go up to court and head of time if they had their say it says you know i think it was this past weekend well actually it will be going to duncan in the fall but that's kind of a long wait but at least those opportunities are available and for somebody who has been to courtney this year but you can never see all of films there in that one weekend because they usually have four going at once this is a perfect opportunity to fill in with some of the ones that you missed and i think it's a lot of people take the long view and it's wor remembering next year that this is not the only venue for this package i think it's really admirable that the people in court did all the work necessary to create a package that could be shipped around and i think it still finishes up in  for scotia oh wow chip graphically so ryan what were the highlights of last year's film festival for you there was that your first no that was my third oh i think one of the biggest highlights was getting to watch the films working his tech you get to see all the films that you play and i really love being able to see people's reaction to the films people react very differently to the same films and it was great to see you know some people crying and some people getting emotional and then during the breaks in between films people were able to have a conversation with each other and talk about what they just saw very important funnily enough i was listening to shat on c b c on the way in to the studio and they were talking about that very thing about how different people have different reactions and how packaged the mainstream media is to it's kind of dumb people down and deliver something that will be easy easy for them to relate to to entertain them for a short while but it's very different at this kind of festival people need to debrief do you think i think so i think but we do have short breaks in between films usually it's we'll show two or three films that once or you know one film in a couple shorts and it's great to just be able to talk and you know let it out and we'll hear what happened and hear from other people and their opinion sometimes it's amazing never never would have occurred to you the way that they are relating to that film and to relate to the to the techniques i do one of the problems that i have now with watching films is that i notice small things like you have one scene and there to film for three so i've been watching video all my life and television came fairly early to the british isles and it was television without commercial so documentaries are very close to my heart and i get very upset when documentaries are interrupted with commercials and i can see the whole thing steadily through but continuity always on the list of credits that has a special role continuity you know and that was the person whose job it was to technicalities i take it i do not so much in documentaries but more so in t v show yes in larger movies more you know about should have been noticed beforehand i particularly get stuck on stuff made in england for the u s audience oh yeah they're not going to say somebody was sick they're going to say somebody was ill they're not going to use that word that's a u s word they never go to a pharmacy there aren't any pharmacies in england they're chemists and then i realized oh my goodness inspector morse was made for the u s so if he ends and they use all these these things so if you go to the film festival let's get back to her film february ninety three so we're starting friday february nineteenth in the evening and what are we going to have the opportunity of seeing then oh ok i am going to bring up the i've got the website here which incidentally is none i am all film fest dot org and it says that on our friday feb nineteenth at seven how to change the world will be screened along with a short they might not have got green peace so successfully afloat and afloat it's been of course because they've been in a lot of actions with with the with boats trying to get in the way of nefarious doing so that was the beginning and they talk about it and i'm not going to name the name but there's one scoundrel who was there from the beginning and he really only wanted to promote himself and when he could not get control the the core group he left and he is now well known as a climate denier and a shill for the for the corporate businesses who are doing the things that greenpeace is is protesting and i thought the editor you should look at it right because i thought the editor handled it brilliantly well the one ticket or he did not editorial i said told he just hit the guy hang him self we gave him so much rope for he had finished talking he realized that he was completely out to lunch and could not justify things that he said ten years ago that was a clip of so i loved that movie and i i very much recommend it to people and it the other one will come out the indigenous viewpoint about how connected everything we're doing is so remember that they'll be a major film friday night and you'll want to deep brief and talk about it and we're hoping that we'll be able to provide some refreshments at the very least some coffee and and something to keep you going and then you then you can go  campus somebody tell me how many venue's there are we have two venues buildings three fifty five three fifty six on the east side of campus it will be going on the saturday and sunday that's brilliant because they're close together there and with only two venue the people who get really upset because when had news really far away and yet there's a movie that they wanted to to see there they won't have that problem so much they'll be right next door to each other than i believe those two buildings are connected by a walkway as the walkways just go out one door and you're literally almost in the next one in the other one and i think you have to go down a flight of stairs maybe and three fifty six from that walkway and up a flavor of stairs and three fifty five but it's all very very close and it is just for people in scooters to to get from one but we had a global village volunteer who was the school to person and he says to tell out and he could figure out how to get from one building to the other using those those upper level walkways both buildings have elevators and the elevator once you're in but the steps up to the building are an issue there are yeah i myself have been finding the wheelchair routes around campus lately because i'm avoiding stairs and there are ways to do it it's a little tricky but you can go in the back of building three fifty five if you find the right path and you can also go in the far and i guess the south end of building three fifty five without stairs if you park this is to another topic here but park if you park beside the child care fifth that's a good place because you can go up to the top of that lot and there's a path that goes along just one step behind the child care center and you just follow that along and it goes directly into the end of building three fifty five where you can then get an elevator up to the screening room to go three or you can take a sort of an angle left turn at a certain point and go up a level just on past and get in the back door of three fifty five as well which take which puts you right on the level of room two of three so  yeah i'm quite sure there are ways into three fifty six i think what we've made clear to community people listening is that there are two to conveniently situate yourself so that you can get to and from those movies  it's one thing for the students who are there regularly and have their systems so figured out but it it it can be done and there's a good map on the i you web site and we really invite community people to come up and immersed themselves right and didn't you find that being at a film festival was like stepping into a different small world i think so because there's always a variety of people that come people that maybe know more about the subject matter of the film of you know they're watching at that time and some that might not know anything about it such as me for a lot of the films and it's great to be able to talk with people that you might not have had a conversation with outside of you know the festival or spark conversation that you may not have had outside of the festival so it's a great way to meet people and learn about the environment learn about what's you know different things and we saw in total at the states some people always say well why don't we have a film about the paris conference and the only on so you can give to that would be what rand would what would be your answer in paris conference was last november about climate i don't know i think because you could probably see it on the news it can't just wave a wand to get a film you have to be out there looking for the films that the creative people have decided to make which is a bit of a turnaround isn't it oh absolutely another thing to keep in mind is that film making involves a lengthy editing process right so someone who did capture footage at the paris climate conference might still be working out here and it plus which then they have to go through all of the mechanisms to release the film and there wouldn't have been time for the world community film festival in courtney to pick up a film like that because it simply wouldn't have been ready in time for their selections to be made so there might be one next year it might be interesting sometime to have one of those send a selection committee come down and explain the process because i'm sure they're already to look for the films for next year's festival and it be really interesting to hear what their criteria are a member that was a long argument at the beginning about people who did not want to be depressed there for can you please only provide pictures that do not depress me well as you said trying to print things to press different people are make different people happy don't think oh absolutely and i think you know maybe if we had a selection committee that you know you could bring in volunteers people from you know all the ages all demographics that come in and bring in the films that they want to have screened genital they want to have them stream screened there are other people out there who are going to want to see them what do you think people go to a film festival to see to find out what a media studies to go to a film festival for why just like seeing the friday of topics out there on the world like i get my news online it's there's way too much out producing a movie that people can comfortably internalize that they can receive and get the message and also feel good about the way in which the information is presented is there something about mainstream media that is turning us off i don't even know i think i think you know i'm completely turned off mainstream media i get so much interesting information sent to me by people i trust saying have you seen this did you know what silent com had to say about that even the huffington post it's quite interesting sometimes but to half the time they're so busy trying to do the same thing as the mainstream infotainment industry that really when where you west based you i mean there are when we have the canadian ones like the tidy as well yes it does a really good job especially with b c issues on line but yes you can get it online you can be emailed with their stories of the week sort of thing but i guess with documentaries you get a more in depth look at things don't you and there's an art history to the because there are people who have a have an eye for seeing and they're presenting that you so that it's almost as if you were there but then this is not oh high level highly artistic tech stuff one of the movies i really want to see is the one cold some claymation animation in it as some footage and it's about the israeli palestinian conflict and i'm told it's brilliant that i've got the schedule up here again february nineteenth that's also on the friday evening we mentioned the greenpeace film and the first nations film but at nine fifteen is the wanted eighteen all of those films by the way will be screened in building three we done the friday evening let's quickly jump to the other evening movie which will be sunday saturday sorry oh ok if i can jump in herring again seven o'clock on saturday the twentieth is the true cost that is about sweat shops in the garment industry i believe what it's about what they call fast fashion which is about as bad for us as fast food so it's certainly something that all the global village people who are interested in fair trade will be wanting to pick up on true the true cost of the cheap despoil most disposable clothing that people can acquire quickly and then the fashion can turn over have you noticed any of that phenomenon run amongst student population the issue of clothing not  club remember group oh that was the popular participation movie and i think there's also the solutions group and while the popular petition practice a patient we're the ones who put on the sweat shop fashion show and it's really interesting to see people react to a young person out of the human community come strolling down and somebody comments on where this was made and who made it want it's made out and do you really ever want to wear anything it's really quite scary once you start looking into the it's the scariest looking into the issues about overprocessed past food and i don't know if they go into the the waste issue but apparently the second gr problem for landfill waste in the world is textiles thrown away textiles and of course many of them you can't do anything with anything with because if you're somebody person who is at home and who does some actual cleaning up of your own you know that you want pure cotton rags to work with and there aren't many pure cutting rags around anymore so the things smeared stick if you're trying to clean a window or a counter because there are a bland here and we  that would be considered so that's the seven o'clock and that's on the saturday evening saturday evening right and how long do we run on sunday sunday he is just one thirty  five in both venue's so it's just the afternoon starts with food chains at one thirty and building three fifty six which is definitely going to be of interest to the food security community it's about farm labor and the pathetic wages that farm workers are paid to see what it says here a group of an intrepid group of florida farm workers battled to defeat the four trillion dollar global supermarket industry through their ingenious fair food program which partners with growers and retailers to improve working conditions for farm workers in the u s so it would be most interesting to find out how that relates to canada because we kno that there are farm workers who are brought into canada as well but we hear very little about that well and if it's a us movie we might have to do the researchers and ellison who else may need to make  but in the meantime this looks great because it seems to put the onus on the supermarkets to start making some changes and once again they're always competing with each other for lower prices  establishment it would grow if one off to the other and their fellow who had the franchise a nice fellow and he had huge costs first of all for rental for his ou grow from all and he had other costs for his supplies which were part of the franchise which were brought in to make these muffins and the end result was as a mother looking i could see that nobody who needed enough money to live on could work in that store because the wages were too low to live off and there are some other institutions much larger that we know of where the same thing is happening there isn't enough money there for anybody to live so being a person who asks why i start thinking to myself why do people deserve to get cheap stodgy food that isn't good for them at less than the price almost of the production of that food wouldn't it be simpler just to eliminate that particular business from our list of businesses and go somewhere where there's real food served by real people and the money is made in the community and people can live off it what on earth made us think it was a good idea to make everything so cheap that nobody could afford it but to henry ford remember henry ford even the simple things like you know you get a bottle of pop and you get it for a dollar fifty and you know bottle water somewhere else to fifty whipping for water somebody else's water yeah absolutely i think so much for something that's healthy that should be in this that we shouldn't have to pay for right so i think we can transfer some of that supermarket staff to thinking about some of the businesses that we see around us i was just going to say there was a successful campaign on campus a few years ago to eliminate the sale of bottled water on campus i think i think that's still in place although you can get pop but you can bring your own water bottles and we have water refill stations in a bunch of the buildings that's what i do i bring an empty water bottle and fill it up there you just have to remember to sterilize it now and then usually a good idea i just thought i would mention because again i'm looking at the schedule here that the food chains that we were just talking about with the the the pay the poor pay scales is followed immediately on sunday afternoon at three fifteen by a film called the hand that feeds and that at the coffee shop yes that's pacific i think that's what it is a popular bakery cafe anyway  residents of new york's upper east side get bagels and coffee served with a smile twenty four hours a day behind the scenes undocumented immigrant workers face sub legal wages dangerous machinery and abusive managers who will fire them for calling in sick risking deportation and job loss the workers team up with innovative young organizers and form their own independent union launching themselves on a journey that will test the limits of their resolve in one roller coaster year they must overcome a shocking betrayal and a two month lockout lawyers battle in backrooms and workers walk the picket line with support from the occupy crowd if they can win a contract it will set a historic precedent but whatever happens these workers will never be the same so that's three fifteen on sunday it's eighty four minutes long that is the twenty first of february and it will be an building three fifty six so we've managed to hit on a some some movies that really excite us and that are there there's a different approach to a major movie in the evening to going from one building to the other to catch a particular movie of a particular length and see as many of the ones that you're interested in as you can there's no way we can give all the information so ryan would you tell us the best way for people to find out how to navigate where you can visit our website at the name of film fest dot org there you can find information with you know schedules tickets the prices around there and information about volunteering if you want to come out and volunteer for next year's festival we're always looking for people this is how the festival works without volunteers and there are their perks for volunteers only they can see some of the films for free and you get to watch the films especially if you work as an usher or as a tech you sit in the so huge amount of information on the website is there any other way is there is there phone numbers so that people can ask questions or is it pretty well through the website that information flows there is a contact form on the web avoid twitter yeah times are changing and one way to learn is to throw yourself into the mix and use it for something important we're talking about in an i'm a global film festival which only comes once a year and we're talking with ryan pepperton a student at media studies to you who is clued in because he's part of the organization of the film festival you haven't looked at the film see it what are you what would you be looking for when you look through the list of films for an something that really just catches my eye and usually when i look through films there's always something that's going to spark my interest whether it's you know topic i'm really interested in recently it's to look for it so there's an old mantra of an activist community and it runs like this first you get good information then you analyze it and then you do something and i think you see it playing out at a place like a film festival because first off they're going to get world class information in depth i mean it is unbelievable what a well made documentary film can tell you about a subject that is of interest you and then you have that debriefing period afterwards where you try and find somebody that you can talk to about what you just learned and you exchange ideas and then if we're not careful if people can't come away having taken the third step what can i do about that it's that's when they start to feel a little depressed and a little defeated and what the action can be could be very simple just stay informed just talk to my mother about just think about policy side like my muni my provincial government my federal government to be taking all of these actions that we as individuals can get involved in whether all by ourselves or are as a group but without the good information everything falls apart there's nothing more depressing than having a long conversation about an important issue with somebody who doesn't know anything at all about it and doesn't really want to be confused with the facts oh yes and we get a lot of facts but we get them delivered in a way that is explanatory in a well made movie don't well yeah you know that's the problem with the internet you know you want to learn more about a topic and you go online and you may not find the information you're looking checking something here and somebody in there and finally deciding who you think you can depend on all that stuff and at a film festival seoul kind of packaged together a lot of like minded people buzzing around together buzzing with talk about about the movies that they'd seen in the movies that they'd like to see and and all that stuff so do you think you could outline for our listeners a little bit about the way a film festival works it's not the same thing as buying a ticket for a movie is it no it's not you know one festival it comes to mind is if the channel international film festival and they show a wide variety of films all around the world and they have i believe thirty plus venues four hundred about four hundred films and they have both attendance of i think last year saw almost five hundred thousand people and it's you know pretty hard to just pick a film that you want to go see but you have to do it or a lot of times you know i'll just go see anything just something that i might not know about and i want to learn more about just to see what happens or if you're like me you be in a nice comfortable venue and you just to still feel like i'm just going to stay in to see the next venue next film because you never know what you might see yeah and you might learn a lot but you can't see everything absolutely but twenty six i think i counted twenty six yeah that's usually it about thirty and don't beat yourself up but you did see everyone because if you did see everyone i think you'd suffer from quite severe burn of the brain oh it's so oh indeed because there's so many topics here i am noticing too on the schedule that there's nothing competing on the friday evening with the films that we mentioned so you can just go and see those and that's three films there i believe on saturday it's one venue for for the people i was before before yes so so building three fifty five on saturday starts at eleven o'clock and you can see one tooth three four five six seven films there before three fifty six even starts so that's great so you only have to choose after five o'clock on saturday and then on the sunday afternoon which is great so it gives you a chance as you say marjory to see more than half of the films and i think that the committee is where it's really hard to bring in a ticket regime that is user friendly so that you can show up at the door and you can pretty well unless it's you know it's for some reason become a hugely popular popular video and you're a minute too late and it's filled out which doesn't you just you can just walk in you can buy them in advance working on that right now but you can just come to the door and you can either purchase a double bill or we can pass or it was two one the five bill the five pass the six pour punch pass and you can buy that right at the door right before the film yeah nice it's taken a while to get a system that is actually client friendly and it sounds as if you can get pretty well any kind of a a good deal and it's a very inexpensive film festival i think at the same anybody know this year the cost of a full pos for the whole weekend it's hit says here thirty dollars regular that's for how to hold twenty dollars for students and seniors so that's four an entire weekend really a friday night day saturday and sunday afternoon and into saturday evening as well the six punch past's is twenty four dollars or sixteen for students and seniors and the double bill pass is ten dollars or seven dollars for student or senior and when you compare that with what the movie theaters offer that's pretty good you only get one to move east is for seven dollars here and student or senior that's that's pretty good and is it true ryan that two people could share a double bill pass and just go to one screenings so you can either bring a friend or family member come in by a double bill pass or if you feel generous you can someone that you meet there they're in line by themselves and say hey do you want to ask these on double bill and then split it why not because somebody has paid for that many films and the more films people see the happier ria oh absolutely and i gather the same thing would be true of a six punch pass you could share that with somebody and see three films and that's three time slots right some in some time slots there's more than one film but that is because there's a short as well as the longer film but that counts as one screening so that's one that's one on the six punch so you could see three of those chunks with another person on the six punch pass i'm wondering if we have any any other movies the sort of political issues like ukraine that the rand came up with in some cases it's more about the the theme like this one here on landfill but it's got a new approach to landfills it's people who made a little band out of instrument is saturday the twentieth building three fifty five at twelve forty five there's one called the war on whistleblowers and that i believe i was checking that out myself the other day and it includes edward snowden so but it includes some other things that are not the sorts of whistleblowing things that we did that i would usually think about for example one person a marine actually a u s marine felt that the humvee as that were being used by the troops in iraq were unsafe because they could be blown up by roadside bombs whereas there was another type of military vehicle that was much sturdier so he was whistle blowing on the suppliers yes exactly there was some kind of it seemed like some kind of corruption going on there somebody had a vested interest in continuing with the humvees and they were trying to cover up the problems with them but finally the story this kind of broke loose and they did switch over i guess to the sturdier vehicles but in the meantime this person lost his job i mean he was he was punished for bringing this issue to light big institutions don't like their errors brought to light that their first reaction is defensive consistent yes yes there was a there was another one on the coast guard the u s coast guard was ordering new boats and it turned out that the heavy seas so that's another crazy choice on somebodies part just to line the pockets i suppose of whoever was building those and a fascinating discussion that could come out of it because as i understand it the us at least has whistleblower protection legislation and canada has none but it doesn't sound as if the us whistleblower protection legislation was working does it apparent has gone after whistleblowers more than all the other previous presidents by and according to something that i saw so as a matter of fact it says that right here  description for the film it says obama's administration has attacked more whistleblowers under the espionage act than all previous administrations combined and so that's rather and he was worried about democracy oh he wouldn't want to do that that's very much a terrorist and he's so articulate he's really really articulate he's figured everything things through and julian assange just still a prisoner in some embassy somewhere that wiki leaks in london even though the u n found that the u s tried to tried to take him out yeah he was being held improperly or was the word that was sort of anyway but you know that was recently anyway that both england and sweden shouldn't be after hearing the way they are and you know all of these these issues come to mind suzanne we're having so much fun talking about all this stuff but do you have any announcements that you wanted to make oh well i was just going to remind our listeners that you are listening to c h o y i want to one point seven f m am your listener and student support of campus and community station which of course is based in downtown and imo and heard as well at c h o y dot ca where we stream live and podcast and today we are actually talking about the ng and i'm a global film festival which is coming up on the weekend february nineteenth to twenty first at v i you know i'm on campus and buildings three fifty five and three fifty six so that's our big event announcement which is going on for the whole hour here of course we know as well that the event over oil and short film festival is coming up before that in this coming on this coming weekend ryan you may have some knowledge about that one so so bad so i think sometimes our two festivals get mixed up a little bit but she should go to both people should he be there wolf very much worth going to so short films this coming weekend and then global film festival the following weekend and a short film can pack an enormous punch that's why they're quite a few short films wolf one with the film festival that follows the short film festival and this festivals always packed there if you're still thinking about going to get your tickets now yeah i do see him going to sell out the great great i thought i would also mention michael moore's new film it's called where to invade next of course is a documentary he has been ill lately and is actually asking for help in sort of publicizing this because he can't do the talk  i looked on the cineplex website this morning and it looks like it will be opening in cineplex theaters and i hope that includes the galaxy in an imo on february twenty sixth and he doesn't really talk about military invasions he goes to other countries to use scope out their social programs and he discovers that social programs actually make places better to live and help the economy to it seems like just a way he's trying to counter the republican point of view i guess on it that's a that's a really good place to have a look for this once again it's called where to invade next by michael moore they said in there that just looking in the film  us on february twenty sixth then we have three weekends worth of really fabulous films to look for on a great way to start twenty sixteen yes indeed indeed one of them i was looking at here is a film called we call them and true to its which is almost an hour long and was made a year ago and we should mention that these are very up to the minute films i don't think i noticed one that was more than about three years old that's a film that's fairly up to the minute because well as i mentioned earlier the editing process stands a long time if you're really working with film as opposed to you know live video transmission or something like that alive well this intr when is about canadian the canadian mining connection and i think that's something that people need to know about my husband and i used to treat ourselves to the vancouver upper it's a very good upper association in vancouver and we'd say about for a purpose a year we would buy season tickets and and go over and stay at that why don't you and mark across to the queen elizabeth and have dinner i have to it was it was a very pleasant seasonal treat for us but then we found every single time we went to the opera and the surtitles which they have up above the stage to try and make sense out of these idiotic upper story lines all was it was crediting goldcorp goldcorp mining corp is the sponsor gold mining and we had just seen some information about the practices of gold corp another canadian mining corporations in the world i'm we just sat down and looked at each other and said how much to money to be spent on these tickets and we wrote a check to write section and by tomorrow and never went back to the vancouver oprah course we've talked on the show before about the damage that canadian mining companies used to me canadian forestry companies but now it's canadian mining so mining companies that film shows at two fifteen on saturday february twentieth in building three fifty five and it's preceded by a short cold there you go which is animated and you can actually watch the whole thing on the website because the to railer is the whole is two and a half minutes long but it's different with people around you in a big screen oh absolutely yes but the description of it is around the world development is robbing tribal people of their land self sufficiency and pride and leaving them with nothing this short satirical film tells the story of how tribal peoples are being destroyed in the name of development so that's a perfect lead in k a lot of things that you might want to see you mentioned earlier that you were particularly interested in one point in seeing a movie i don't think we have it in this film festival about the crane and there huge controversy a diversion it's like the current climate issue there are some people who say that everything that's going on in the ukraine is ok and other people who say oh no it's not the other side is right are there any movies like that it would you be interested in movies like that if you found them in this package i think they would i'm always interested in films that show you know two sides of the conflict yes and yeah if there was some that we could find for f challenges your brain doesn't it thinking about two or three or four sides to a conflict when i was here age the the favorite method of dragging us into university was compare and contrast if your test with comparing and contrasting and making up your mind with conflicting information your brain really goes into high gear and you're just the right age to be doing that kind of activity and i certainly hope that you find the kind of movies that you if you find stimulating in that way you have people that you can talk to in your courses amongst i don't know ever if you think about coming to the festival i would say you just go check out the schedule on line write down you know the times the films that you want to go see and try to make plans for everything yes make a plan that's the best way to go about a festival thank you for the it's a good thing and once again that website is not imo film fest dot org yeah and i'm definitely going to start with the first friday evening one because i want to see that film about the have there been other things like that too there was a song called cows with guns but that's another topic i really they must have been reading the cartoons of the guy who festival marjorie's stewart for bringing ryan in to me in next week for librarians on the radio and on behalf of our production team thanks so much for joining us