lab and we're going to get into his whole bio on exactly where he works now he's worked all over the place and he's the guy that he's the guy that had a few years ago sort of coming out saying look we're go end up having a chicago net type of scenario here if all of this continues and now it's all coming true i mean here are some of the articles that i've got that will be showing t v viewers in the document can forget to take your medication these pills will tell your doctor i mean it just goes on and on with your your smart meter watching you and your house and ground handwriting right are the establishment is putting the architecture of control in show they can control as well the tech non greasy what the professor has pointed out is that what's happening here is that the machines years ago it's really become a bigger issue and we hear about all these back door chips and things what do you think about what the establishment has decided to do with the architecture  heard i mean look the entire grid is being built so they can spy on us and control us and remote control our cars everything else this looks like it's tailor made for an artificial intelligence to be able to take over it does again professor john paul's key is our guest this is just a short time we'll get more into detail in the next segment if people want to check out your work what is the best place to go to love louisville dot edu and then just go to the computer that i am some are saying you may have been remote controlled and run into the tree i'm not even saying that's what happened i look at a car bomb to me my issue is that shows how our society is being taken over you can definitely  all this going on it is dangerous but this is exactly where i'm led the search comes in i'm trying to make the system safer more secure combining security and artificial intelligence in one area of research and i know you're a leading expert here really it isn't even negative you just go from a more realistic angle than try like ray kurzweil that just says it's going to be wonderful heaven her going to live forever there'll be no problems but the robots in charge now are going to be god that's a quote i don't believe in god yeah i'm going to be god we're going to come back here and talk about your new book which i need to get raided and brought out real scenario of what we could face if we don't get control of th of artificial intelligence is going to bring most people agree that in the next twenty to leave a hundred hears we're going to see something develop on the level of human intelligence how's that going to change society how is that going to inflict all of us my book aims to make about him by checking out his book and we'll put screenshot up on the screen for people that are watching us on television so they can get the name of that bucket artificial super intelligence a futuristic approach and you could actually see one of the professor's interviews with us right there skynet rising the ai threat to humanity exist my issue is are you more concerned about breakdowns in the system like a self aware ai system going crazy is really futuristic we're not quite at that level yet but something like a government putting it back into or to control the system  professor what do you think of what ray kurzweil has to shay because for me it's more like a comic book the way he puts things out and he had meant change starting really a new religion and they're saying you'll either merge with the machines or you'll be stepped on like a bug and they're selling this utopian view but when i look at the real technological development and what the establishment says that really building it's more in line with something like a lazy i'm the new movie coming but my issue is the technocrat shop studied who's running the show and they openly say we may just get rid of everybody once this new level of evolution takes place we're talking about genocide here and people playing god and i don't think the public is even aware of that right her as well as able to predict a lot of what's coming in the future because he's an insider and kind of their front man he's obviously a very smart a big inventor he is basically the public face of what they're planning to do is my point i mean i'm not even an engineer i go off of what they say they're going to do and so that's why he knows so much about the goals i mean he wants a technocratic world government run by an a computer the world where we're reportedly going to be given a terminal life by giving up our humanity and merging with machines sounds like a nightmare to me well even according to kurds loyal it's not going to help a little twenty forty five was going to h what about the general public when lower i q just lower intelligence they're calling it measurably computer fog the language is already shrinking people are already having their brains rewired at a young age in a bad way i mean alzheimer's connected to t v watching i mean i really see what a lot of what computers are doing is dehumanizing us and hurting us it's not really doing what records also that there is a lot of years getting too much power because they have access to technology it seems that the pattern is but if knowledge can get cheaper exponentially so more and more people who are not to reach necessarily get access to top notch  again my issue is that they're putting all this backdoor tech to spy on us in all the major electronics and then we're having to pay for this because of this corporate standardization i'm saying professor i see the positive things there but the globalist don't want the poor people to have access to this revolution that's what i plan to set up a world government or simply reduce world population and then go forward into the next stage of man as they call it i mean take foxconn run by the liberal trendies you're really authoritarian monsters of apple with al gore on their board they have the most oppressive factory shop contractors and demand the highest dehumanization programs available and then the suicide natch and so someone will commit suicide and they drug i'm into forced abortions at the foxconn reportedly that now they've just ordered as you know millions of robots that are now replacing the humans where the s i don't see that nexus point meeting where where where we bring in robots and then we just do more advanced things instead we just get killed and i think that's the path that's been chosen and ray kurzweil is not going to tell people that but that's the now do we keep people alive just let him play games all day or do we get rid of people and you know most of them said let's get rid of everybody show i mean i don't know i think i might be some we should talk about it is that is exactly what lucas of that's exactly the question is that raises what can a but then you see you know the top stuff watch in the discovered it says and i just know it's eugenics based and in the forty's after world war two the eugenicist remade themselves as transhumanist and i just know that there's a very arrogant anti human been in these people and they've decided we're junk and i decided they're going to shot our course i just think the public should have a debate about that and that's what i like about you professor is that you're trying to have that  robots i mean you can already see the plan to make us obsolete that's my point is that the major corporations do not have a good view and currently i believe from the evidence we're on a very bad path robotics not a new type of research should be fully funded by the government where nobody knows what it is going to be and now you sound like president eisenhower i want to come back and talk about the n s a and the fact that any engineer that works intel are going to gauge and tells you these spy habs are there show i mean i know you're nonpolitical but i want to hear your take on the an ash a when you talk about synthetic biology that surely from what i've seen where they're going doctor only got a few minutes left here but specifically looking at the n s a the fact that they call it national security that these illegal spy grabs and they are illegal are everywhere and then people are traitors that he didn't give away our missile shakers he didn't give away our fast aircraft carriers can cruise how many noche he said hey they're doing illegal stuff that's always been protected what's your view on snowden i mean i think to always knew was spying in and he joins us right now but you've been involved with some of the big wigs who are really looking into the real alternative energy not free energy not magic stuff there's a lot of cons out there and also people that have built things that are reserve notes but with those symbols of energy they can get the world so they kind of have a perpetual motion machine while they try to create artificial scarcity that's why obama that let's cue that clip up from last week told africans you can't have air conditioning you can't have a car you can't have a good life that's bad for the earth all the g m o is destroying the planet all the globalists are blocking the clean alternative energies and putting out fake windmills for their select buddies and challender a not even building the complexes meanwhile there are real solutions in energy and you have been doing research into this this is a mainline technology around for a long time that's ready to be deployed right now but as you told me last night i've seen this in the nourish any company that tries to really put this out they directors commit suicide they get are kind of cited very very very very quickly they fall down and hit their head or or go and close the garage door and turn on the car jim marrs break the the true cutting edge and what could revolutionize everything people want solutions here it is ok well let's let this goes all the way back let's go back to the turn of the twentieth century and rudolph days will invented a diesel engine that he originally designed to run on organic matter ok you're member of the back to the future movie and they put banana peels and and i don't know a coffee grounds and stuff in the little fusion  thing to run the machine he built a diesel to run on organic matter but that would have interfered with the petroleum based industry so what happened to rudolf diesel gee it was terrible he fell overboard crossing the english channel you know he's a harness laboratory down there's there's things going on right now today some years back there was a kid up in the northwest who said i've got a i've developed the carburetor that will get a hundred miles on one gallon of gas and he got reporters he in cars that go one hundred fifty miles an hour and you tell me the japanese today can't do that well the germans are making a voce wagon over in europe right now that's getting fifty six sixty miles of the gallon but you can't buy it in the united states ok and why is that ok because the elite the very people you're always preaching about these people have a monopoly based on petroleum and it's that simple and anything that comes up that's going to threaten that they buy  if they don't buy it up then they then they just find they're going to try to use on record the shortage of it in the next fifty years because they can artificially make it scares to take control of the entire human civilization and that is wrong well most people truly believe today that the reason we fought in iraq afghanistan syria all these countries into egypt is because we're trying to get their own oil well we don't need all oil we don't need all leslie clark declassified that actually illegally admitted he was in the pentagon and saw the plan to not let those country sell the oil to create artificial scarcity saddam's crime was over pumping exactly in fact sane people don't realize that i hear people all the time say well we invaded iraq because we want to steal their oil i tell you some folks we were only getting sixteen percent of our imported all from iraq prior to our invasion and once we invaded then they said some of the hall fails on fire there was fighting going on we didn't even get that much they cut down the amount of all we were getting from iraq people don't get artificial scarcity we all companies are capping oil fields all over the us the biggest oil reserves the united states is and if anybody remembers their history which they don't you may recall that the biggest scandal early in the twentieth century was the teapot dome scandal that's where the government was selling off drilling rights to the naval all reserves and california and teapot dome and because the huge scandal and you know oil is actually what financing the carbon tax to shut down coal there competition which would make energy cheap again right right exactly and then all the talk about is nuclear power so safe and efficient that what is another in a saturday all this horrible and we're about to kill or sales the pacific is getting your radiated they're telling you don't eat fish ninety one percent of reactors are leaking worldwide i mean let's get into that to talk about hydrogen alone yeah get into solution is the way to go i met a fellow here just the other day who had been an engineer and he lives in new jersey and in that kind of the countryside and he has a runs his cars is air conditioning his home is heating is lawn mower hydrogen and winds hurricane sandy hit and all of his neighbors their power went out for like a month or more was a bright light so to speak in the middle of the darkness because his live strong everything was operating and his neighbors would come to his house and to take a shower and to and to you jesus their batteries for this is on record as to the most plentiful free element you know out there is hydrogen other there's a gas explain to people how this works well he can take a and here's what's amazing about hydrogen and why i don't understand why well i do because they're greedy bastards but the i don't understand why we're not shifting to a hydrogen economy because isn't or stand it you can take all of the normal infrastructure the pipelines the pumping stations the your car you get a judge they're even going to make a money off out of it i don't want to exactly when we were the top engineer last night he can agree with us with a little tweaking it could all run on hydrogen hello there you go that but why not why don't we not get  because it's the most plentiful substance in the world and they cannot get a monopoly over it jim you are just going to model a minute off air about as an investigator as a journalist all of these alter alternate energies and again we were having dinner last night with a very well known engineer who's worked in a apollo program but after that in petroleum engineering you name it he's done it he was absolutely and the fact that they knew thirty years ago they could have the streets to be solar glass and power everything off that i mean they are subject just like they had light bulbs famous light bulbs in san francisco but there's one in dallas two or is it a member here and i was kept the fire station it was like eighty years old now must be under it there was one of the alice they had or that that everything's game to show show show get into it scholer all of it it's all mindset there is no problem with technology i'm here to tell you just with absolutely no fear of contradiction that there is off the shelf technology that can solve all of our energy problems overnight it's not so it's not technology it's the mental thing now here's a classy example about thirty years ago i was in or  interviewing an energy expert and i got fired up on solar energy and i said well you know what about solar energy no we drove energy from the sun if sun burns out we're all in trouble anyway and he goes well at really a good idea he says but but that's twenty years in the future ok hey folks it's twenty years here we are and we still have it because listen here is the problem in their thinking in their training and their conditioning he said do you realize it would take solar panels covering the entire state of arizona to provide enough electricity to power the city of los angeles and i would yeah i guess so well i went off and i thought about that and you know he's right but where's the fl his thinking central generation he's it can only think in terms of generating enough electricity centrally and then piping it to l a where you lose most of it yeah and you lose most of it in the transmit same thing with the w farms far away it works to have it your house right like the old windmill but not five hundred miles away so what if everybody in los angeles put solar panels on your roof then your power the city of los angeles and everybody's got their own power and why don't we have that because they haven't figured out how to make a cloud come and hang over your house if you don't pay your electric bill absolutely well they also come on the news that if you try to hook it up on your house yourself off the grid they won't come inspect it they want to authorize in most cities but if you but they'll subsidize it and pay for part of it with taxpayer money if you look it up and let them run it and it feeds the grid right well nigh that's the interesting thing too and i've lived through ell to happen when that first came out about people whether it's solar wind generation whatever providing their own juice the power companies are all opposed to it ok but then they came in anyway and then they passed laws saying if you are bankrupted and it's given to select insiders to his buddies and they went broke they don't even open up fielding up they just take the money and run exact or they build windmills five hundred miles away on record that break and don't even work and kill the birds and that's because chances are if you looked way into their portfolio you'd find that actually they're heavily invested in oil and gas you know it turns out you're right you know again b p is the biggest funder of all this and the biggest funder of carbon taxes right there the group that gives most the money to fund build company here what's worth ten million dollars here's here's five hundred million sound over to us and they shut it down and then say look we're green yeah exactly do we have that obama clip real quick we're going to we're going to play this clip because again he's telling  ns you can't have progress unless we have clean energy meanwhile he's blocking it all while claiming he funds it all this is the incredible brainwashing here is the close of youth that everybody's mentioned here in africa if everybody is raising the living standards to the point where but he's got a car and everybody's got air conditioning everybody's got a big house well the planet will boil over unless we find new ways of producing energy now now expanding on that white house dot gov club the problem is warming happens in all the major studies as they had to admit this now and then carbon dioxide goes up and now nasa admits it's a cooling gas and it's a trace gas so it's a total red herring give out you know let us run the energy system in a sad way you can have or will burn the earth up right and what they claim is that it's the carbon emissions that are causing greenhouse effect and then heating up the planet ok so if we go to hydrogen it made it if it puts out any existent all its oxygen and you know clear water which is something we need yeah and balmoral by the way listen people listen carefully to this it is not global warming it is solar system warming the ice caps on mars are diminishing which means they're melting ice or un voted into the sun doesn't affect temperature yeah but the ice on some of the moons of jupiter  said the sun doesn't affect us the sun is everything well they used to tell us the world was flat but i mean how dumb do they think we are the sun is the main driver of climate well they think we're pretty down if all we do is watch mainstream media i agree no no let me throw this out i'm going to break come back with calls here and then into overdrive probably we're sitting here looking at this i mean i just want to point out that they claim they're the ones trying to save the earth they're the ones that are damaging absolutely  well you look in the dictionary under hypocrisy and you found government officials i mean there it is they they they're in the pocket of the vested interest which means they all got colonel anthony shaffer as a bronze star medal recipient as a cia trained senior intelligence operations officer and reserve army lieutenant colonel with more than twenty two years of experience the intelligence community could have killed bin laden several times ordered to stand down by the cia and then he exposed able danger and stratus i v other programs he was in and what was happening there but the point i want to get to here with him first off is that we know the admins came out it was an f b i translator with n s a communications saying look elements of the cia and contractors or in command of al qaeda on nine eleven and then after and they were running drugs guns everything hamid goul is coming on next hour former head of pakistani intelligence led the cia war on record against the russians he says the same thing mom out and says look these bombings that are happening are being basically orchestrated by corporate interests that want to keep a war going in afghanistan so we say it's the government it's not really it's elements that want no bid contracts for a fifteen million dollar that really cost five hundred dollars it's people who want to keep the gravy train going they want to have all these wars that are not in our interest ok and there's a lot of people in the government like colonel shavers of spoken out against it first off since you were on what you make of karzai coming out and saying that narrative where even rand paul comes out two weeks ago and says in the senate we should meet funding al qaeda in syria they can't call it a conspiracy theorist anymore where is that going how does it tie and it's no didn't because people i respect think that he may have been a fan a line of bull not that he's an operative of the chinese or something but he's been set up by other groups and there's an internal agency fight going on so often a lot out colonel shaffer but you're they got to talk to who's had all the access to over the years and it's up there in the middle of fox news in the middle of the army war college and the pentagon of all those things i threw out there what do you make of it and where do you see this going well i did this bring it down with my little i agree with rand pa the enemy and alex we've talked about this before you know there's a great book well researched by doug we've seen called funding the enemy and he you know it's not one of those things he's no conspiracy theorist he's a researcher and he goes to and painful detail talks about how we buy sometimes stupidity sometimes kind of will look at the other way go about funding the very people who are out to kill us just totally insane so when you put that with everything else going on and i really admire the way you put it there in the beginning of  because of certain three nine eleven concerns and of course we knew that alex they were using that system for command control but they do not regard religion with the same wherever it is we do they actually use it as an operational tool and i have a severe problem with v h s within our own intelligence community for now they're trying to basically take out any reference to radical islam as or use anything relating to their religion as something that we should be concerned about because clearly i mean there are people who charge get rid of the media but we don't need it we have u s customs service before we had the f b i we had the immigration attorney service but they all function pretty well not perfectly but pretty well without having a humongous bureaucracy known as that the h s on top of that nine nine percent of all u s citizens will never be never see never have any contact with a terrorist but yet somehow now it's been completely reversed and so the  yet it is let me say something on the operational side that having been at the pub at the cutting edge as one of the pioneers of using data mining the way they're going about it alex is ensuring they only are i don't believe for a minute keith alexander's comments in front of congress to say that they have quote unquote broken up dozens of terrorists that's not possible what they've done and they're taking probably three billion i think about the three million transactions a day very complex transactions a lot of data and yet what they're looking for is maybe ten maybe cats and so what they're doing by by doing it this way by doing this bank complaining of these large amounts of data they're insuring that they will probably never see those ten that they actually need and so that is totally reverse of what we did in able danger our job we knew was to protect the fourth as a the first fourteenth amendments to make sure that we did not violate that and we went in with very precise guidelines of what we wanted to get in the essence what we're looking at here is a government as far as i can tell what it is but it's completely lost track of who the enemy is and their overfunded they have far more capability than the capacity that they have  targets this point and the targets are going after are not the ones which really driving us expanding on that though i mean d h has day one started branding and to tea party constitutionalized you name it and now they have removed in the word al qaeda and things and put in their constitutionalist tea party it's absurdist that they've gotten away with death where are the congressional hearings and what do you make of the two billion bullets and the seven thousand armored vehicles that i see driving around austin and the new training manuals where they're saying we're going to fight the militia we're going to fight conservatives well i guess if they try to turn it into mouse a tongue or something i guess there will be a civil war i mean are the crazy leftists really imagining they're going to have like some spanish civil war and we're the fascist and they're going to lock us all up because you've got things like main core out now in the mainstream news with eight million americans listed most of them libertarian and conservatives that have to be rounded up during an emergency i mean this is insane i was totally insane and i again i don't i can't speak to the lest a lot of his half life inside i have fear for the basically dealt with by the local officials that is to say local law enforcement first if it becomes beyond their control you bring in the friggin national guard now i'm a former member of the ohio guard and we spent time training for both civil support regarding riots and civil support regarding natural disasters and so i don't paul and i don't believe it's constitutional for fame to be expanding to the level it is regarding a first responder type directions those really should be left for the state and obviously with the h s regarding civil control again i don't see how the and they always said they weren't doing that and it was a conspiracy theory and now they're in the news with command and control officers and civil unrest and taking over government i mean is that not completely intrusion of the federal government because virginia like texas is a very strong state we have a very strong economy we are a considered more left side although we're kind of going for but we i think we're still a conservative state and these states really do say look we can handle things on our own you know you do have a national guard the national guard's mission under title thirty two us code title thirty two is to serve as the state's militia that is their job so what you may just be saying here alex it really is a set up or you may see the federal government basically kind of trying to usurp those very capabilities which were designed to do civil unrest issues or you know any federal dictatorship like what you're getting at here studying  amendment cesar crossing the rubicon in what was it forty something b c all of this it's basically the federal government getting on a war footing against the states and the people and in their training manuals and all of it read like science fiction or absurdist you know we were going to fight the tea party we're going to fight tea party insurrections the army war college you know prepares for war in north carolina and simulations with the gun owners and it if they try to confiscate the guns or do something like that it is that it's an illegitimate move i don't want to civil war i'm not naive you're a combat veteran i know you're not naive colonel shaver i mean  mean is this not a war footing homeland security is getting on baiting and switching shang it was for al qaeda now saying it's for russian you were telling me off air that you're in all these different government and other meetings and that people are pretty concerned and you were telling me that i guess we need to do because i think of is that is why what is the justification for both of spending and focus on intelligence officer and generally speaking you know i go with whatever the facts tell me you know it but facts are the boston bombers blow up people and they're trained or affiliated with al qaida then i would suspect that that should be our focus i don't remember the last time that we've had a radical right conservative group blow up anything kill anybody or even make noises like it intends to you if you can you you know and so to me the idea that that france and by the way there isn't trying to put to disarm veterans certain veterans i know personally have been told to give up their guns if they want certain benefits so you know and i can believe that justify the placement expenditure and focus of strategic resources you know national resources against a target then why why would they be doing that and this goes back to the i r s thing alex i mean you know why on earth i don't believe for a minute i mean you've been around a long time you know the low level civil servant is ever going to take on their own initiative to target a specific group or will they been caught lying now it turns out they ordered it from the highest levels just like and they're persecuting the media there are a bunch of authoritarians i mean i mean if it looks like it walks like a quacks like it this is what it is so what do do we well i the thing to do is be vigilant and i get i would go to the congress is the one funding all this is one of those i'd like people to fully understand is like the federal government is part of the executive branch can only function if it's given funding by the congress congress has the power of person was designed that way so by baffles me and republicans but also bill maher the authoritarian laughed just calling for snowden to be arrested and he's a traitor you know executing disappearing that's been talked about i mean what do you make of that is that congress scared that they've been part of allowing this to happen so they're covering their butt i think it's part of it i think that there needs to be some level of of i think just a reckoning regarding the whole of silly situation i mean the fact is you actually asking hard questions about why are we doing certain things and this is where again the expenditures don't make sense the focus doesn't make sense based on the fact that we have an external threat that we know about as well identified as attack is continues to try to attack us and yet here what is it doing in the pentagon what is it doing with all your high level sources in national security because i know you're in there like nobody else we talked to to to have a choke cut and dry now that they're putting jihadi and al qaida in syria to commit war crimes and to have clinton pushing obama to do even more and then you know the heat seeking missiles have been given al qaeda what are they going to win all kind of blows up airliners what does take more of my liberties i mean are people going to go to jail because you told me off air i want you to say your own words that people are really why he not been government right now what can you tell us about that first off there's a realization alex and you can probably figure all of our options for syria are bad i mean i don't want to get the details or give me trouble but  there's people been fired over telling the truth to the white house saying look these are going into the office and we have and they're all bad and by the way getting involved directly it's going to make things worse you know so the all idea of arming these folks and i just don't think it's not our interest to be doing that sort of thing based on the fact that you mentioned all of the chances are pretty good it's all going to go back and i did some days we've seen other involvement we've had other places so i think a lot of people on the inside who really think things through allow the central syrian government that the thing which keeps that country to get it at all because it will become a jihadi safe haven and as bad as it is in libya i believe the consequences of syria falling we are worse now look at the new video out of the president of egypt in a meeting with top ministers talking about how they're going to attack america and israel i mean come on the military industrial complex wants to sell weapons and they're putting the next phase of crazies and show we can have wars with everybody and i can pay for it and you can pay for it and then it then in the country goes bankrupt but why do the military industrial complex care they'll just sell weapons to somebody else well and i got my work with the pentagon budget group that looks at spending it alex i got to tell you some larry korb and i wrote a panel on capitol hill over this week i'm certainly last week and it was packed with staff who actually did want to take on a serious look at how we can cut the defense budget because as you point out i think there's a propensity to get to do things without regard to what we're trying to achieve what's going to cost us and how much will this you know any military action actually benefit the american citizen so i think this is something we ought to be concerned about is that you know we need to step back from  reliance on over use of military force to achieve obvious often dubious national security objectives which cannot be linked to a larger long term global strategy colonel shaffer thank you so much for joining