we haven't made a film before so well things to learn is it perfect no is it effective i hope so because something has to change in our  country the awareness of the truth about nine eleven is perhaps the most critical issue on our planet at this time if the perpetrators of nine eleven can voice this upon the american people and the world what else can they produce it's extremely important that we get to the bottom of what has caused the invasions of afghanistan iraq and the erosion of our civil liberties so let me ask if they are at this point i asked you before about your personal belief in the official story we had six people who believe the official story as did i and most of the rest of us before we became aware of this kind of information how many of us pretty much still believe the official story after seeing the movie please don't be intimidated do we have one ok thank you so i want to make sure you get a chance to a ask your questions if there are any so don't let me forget how many of us are unsure still maybe you're still interests not quite quite quite not quite there yet unsure or any but ok and how many believe the evidence for a control demolition at this point ok the rest of you so you guys are the ones with the problem right if if nine eleven work the destruction of these towers on nine eleven was a control demolition the implications are obviously very very dark because we're not talking about al qaeda having access to three of the most highly defended buildings in the world world trade center seven had the i r s the very strong sense of security well i don't think i want to give you an opportunity to sign up for our free monthly e mail newsletter where we'll give you the latest evidence the latest progress toward an investigation that we're making so if you could eric hand this to this side and and this one to the other side that would be very helpful and we'll we'll share this with the nine eleven activists in seattle we're doing so much to bring you here and to bring the evidence to you in many other ways with different events the next movie that comes out that they'll be showing for instance really important i also want to give you an opportunity to help architects and engineers for nine eleven truth succeed you can see how incredibly important our work is if we stop  then the nine eleven truth movement were not able to continue the nine eleven truth movement does not have the credibility of seventeen hundred architects and engineers now signed onto a petition demanding a new investigation we are at the tip of the spear of the the which is targeting the power structure that brought us nine eleven we really do have a virtual action it's an extraordinary piece rina would you come up and help me to talk about the virtual action kit it is at nine and this is this there are so many things that you can do just sitting at home even at your computer talking to someone you know giving the d v d to architects and engineers and rina and i've been working very very very hard to to make it easier for you what let's go to use the microphone rain what is the the most powerful part of the a virtual action  online there's a section so you can go to where you can click and share facebook you can send emails automatically whether it's from the other things you can put a link on your website you go to facebook twitter and share it lays it out for you you can tell everybody on your in your e mail address list their sample messages you can send out an e mail and if you want to talk to somebody you don't know how to bring this up i was curious i did yeah so so one of the things that we noticed in our own lives is it can be hard to talk with people about this has anybody experience that anybody yeah so one of the things that we notice is that it's likely you'll get dismissive or contemptuous or upset kind of reactions and it's hard to to continue to walk into that so we put together a section which called apprehensive about sharing and it's based on the belief that connections are made the quality of connection is based on care for yourself and care for the other person so we've come up with  know several hard to hear responses in how do you care for yourself and how do you care for the other person so that was a part that i contributed to you know how it was an example like i say i asked you  tell me about nine eleven i don't believe this stuff i mean what do you talk conspiracy theory right so when i hear somebody say conspiracy theory i'm worried for myself that they're not actually going to hear what i'm going to say so i want to take care of myself first and say you know this really matters to me and i actually really value the science that i've learned but then i want to acknowledge the person who shared that it sounds like you have some doubts you'd like to check the credibility of the information i don't know i don't know about you guys i think you're all just communists oh come on you're stretching it  so so it sounds like you'd really like to to to trust in the values so the people that are putting out this information well yeah maybe if i if i could trust somebody i'd listen to you ok great well that's that's a beginning yeah so so then i would go into sharing with you about the seven hundred credentialed architects and engineers seventeen hundred yeah you serious i'm serious yeah and  there's a verification steen that verifies every single signature so all the credentials have been verified and what are they saying what they're saying that they have a problem with this specific government report the national institute of standards and technology report that there was significant relevant evidence that was not included in that report what does this have to do with me alone we're going to keep  well what does that have to do with you well for me nine eleven was a really major incident in our country was a major event it affected all of our lives yours included  now firefighters for nine eleven truth two hundred firefighters signed on to a petition demanding a new investigation and eric lawyer started this firefighter here fourteen year firefighter in seattle he'll join arena and eric of course was in the movie you saw him then we just if you're a couple of comments what was powerful about the movie for you eric and with the testimony that you provided what what what what worried you most about nine eleven well that's a lot of questions yeah the for as far as the movie i was very impressed with how well done it was and it really captured the essence but i really liked was the human element at the end because and really talking about that i know for most i don't know i can't speak for you but for me the trauma of having my worldview shattered was probably one of the most traumatic events of my life and it sent me down on downward spiral so having people kind of talk about that make it ok that that's part of the process but i'm on kind of gone through another phase now so watching the movie brings me back to some of those emotions but i now see the world a completely different view than i had even after waking up to the truth the nine eleven so it's like it's just it's an experience i'll say so what was the final part of the question the the most troubling part of nine eleven for you most troubling part for me is just as a firefighter you know working here in seattle on a basic house fire we protect a scene where nobody's been killed or injured more than what was done on the most heinous crime in world you know in our modern history so that to me there's no excuse and it's and once i learned what was done with the evidence there it's nothing short of criminal there's there's no way ms arena pat yeah so so i have been really involved in the eighty nine eleven truth organization since i discovered it and anybody who's known me over the past ten years will know that i paid attention to the wors and if you pay attention to the wars it's devastating to your spirit and i've been a really limitless peace activist and so i grew you know i'm speaking to the peace community and so you know with all my effort all my taking delegations into congressional offices all many of the the congress people in washington state knew me by my first name and so i was in utter despair  i was i couldn't do anything to affect the situation and it matter to me like the lives of every single person who died matters to me and then i discovered this nine eleven tru group eighty nine eleven truth and i noticed that their science was really really good and and being on the inside now i watched how they verify their information if they have a photograph they don't know where it came from they don't use it every one of those graphics somebody can tell you where it came from and so so i really value the credibility and the quality of the information that went into this documentary right in so so with that with the words going on it really shook my trust in my community and i am still seeking that trust in my community i am reaching out i am looking to the american people for integrity and compassion and courage and i know it's uncomfortable to talk about this with people but i want you to go out and do it and i want you to go out and do it and i would love to have people here sign up as local contacts for your community the eighty nine eleven truth website we have a list of local contacts and action groups around the country be a local contact for your neighborhood and if you go to the web site you go to that there will be a place where you can sign up as a local contact the formal come to meet so i've been receiving these from people all over the country and it's heartening to see how much compassion and care there is across the country as people are signing up stepping up to to help out so i just wanted to let you guys know where i came from and why it why it is that i put my my own money and my own support into this organization i think  right and there are there any questions for any of us let's start over here there's a floor there's a mike on the floor if you'd actually step up to the by now to be very very helpful will be able to get your voice on the recording and everybody will be able to hear that how tiny those little pieces of metal are and what i'm asking you is when the nano thermite gets to be that fine can we assume that it could be so powerful that it could blow over concrete into dust like what  us what we do know is that it's one of the most highly advanced technical technically advanced incendiaries in the world that it's made only in the most sophisticated defen contracting laboratories that is composed of nano particles of aluminum and iron oxide that are a thousand times smaller than a human hair that are intimately mixed in the perfect percentage to become thermite it's not something of ninety thousand tons of concrete now we don't know that we don't have to have all the answers we have enough answers to know that we require a real investigation to get  rest of the answers so i think it's an excellent question and there really a version of i was wondering why you chose to leave larry silverstein said mission that they had a controlled demolition demolition of the world trade center seven complicity larry silverstein did indeed say on public television america rebuilds about a year after nine eleven as he was interviewed was talking to the fire commander and there's been such terrible loss of life maybe the smartest thing to do was pull and so they gave the order to pull and we watched the building come down so that's what he said and people who listen to that agreed that he's talking about and pulling the building only giving the order to have it demolished what he says is that what it meant was  that he was he was talking about pulling the firemen out of the building but the firemen were in the building so this is it's not evidence right we don't want to get into arguing match with larry silverstein we want to point the american people to this scientific forensic evidence that most people believe understand is irrefutable but i'd really like to find out what your questions are when i find somebody who still believes the official conspiracy theory about how these buildings came down after seeing this evidence i am just so curious to find out what it is that didn't convince you about this evidence so i'm beseeching you to step up to the microphone and give us your your questions next my my question pertains more up more to building seven then the towers which are where were struck by airplanes which is an extraordinary event whereas the collapse of building seven most of you don't do from asymmetrical damage from falling debris and asymmetrical damage from fire much more easily explained they know that a crash from an airplane  so they've probably been building steel framed skyscrapers for i don't know old one hundred years or so there are probably thousands or ten thousands of skyscrapers worldwide there probably been thousands and thousands of office fires and yet in all that time the only buildings ever to collapse from fires happened on nine eleven happened before none happened after question my question is you know if we if we consider the engineering and architecture and building construction community and from a broader perspective from your evidence asian i imagine that there are several people on that proving that  official explanation or at the very least they don't question the official explanations so if there was this catastrophic event that caused the collapse of a building that is unprecedented and happen never afternoon before what steps have they taken to from an architectural or engineering perspective what steps have that taken to ensure that this catastrophic catastrophic event in this catastrophic flaw that obviously was a part of building seven isn't repeated to protect people in the future yeah good question there we would you help me with this one from the art do you fight fires differently than men you'd hope for now we haven't had we've received a lot more federal training and related to terrorism that's what's changed but we know there's been no no changes to the way we fight highrise fires and you know in a broader sense i mean people have a little bit more fear maybe is how with the two of the tallest buildings in the world with what you would have to believe was stringent twenty four  how there's tens of thousands of people in these buildings well if you had access to the cork to the elevator shafts in these buildings you would have internal access to the core columns in the towers and the core and the beans which is where we believe the explosives were placed because if so if you had an elevator modernization which in fact we had in the twin towers the nine months prior to nine eleven the largest elevator modernization in history was going on you would have an undercover operation to plant place those explosives without any of the occupants really suspecting because that work was going on there the noise was happening the white dust from the gypsum wallboard was getting all over everybody's desks of course you'd have to have access through security so we certainly want an investigation of ace elevator who had the contract which could have provided an undercover operation we certainly want an investigation of this security strata sec which had the contract up until curiously enough the date of nine eleven so that's a possibility yes next question the saddest thing about nine eleven is to see how our government has used it afterwards these ten years i've never seen our freedom get demolished just like these buildings ted the question i have is number one were they  never seven this is just self explanatory to me so i don't have to think about that when the towers over and baffle me on how they can come down like that the only way i can see them coming down is just a little bit of a pipe shape on top i just can't get over how how else second happened without explosions was this supposed to slap do you know what poses attention to slap yeah i don't think so no this this concrete was poured over reinforce reinforcing point just that lightweight concrete with each floor by the way there's one hundred ten floors in each of these buildings right there in acre inside each of them and wouldn't we expect to have one hundred ten floors stacked up like pancakes at the bottom or fifty or ten even one no we we have a two story pile of core columns perimeter columns aluminum cladding we don't have what anything what you'd expect to find in the way of a gravitational collapse the corner where the elevators are we've seen in seattle how these high rises are built and the core goes up the core concrete sure walls are twenty four inches thick all the way around and so this comes up in the center of the building and goes all the way up so to me i don't know a fire can destroy that the the floors are just collapse slide off and the center core huge concrete wall would stay together in the middle what the construction photos and videos reveal  and the plans that we do have with the with the twin towers is that we don't have thick concrete walls in the center like a lot of the high rises are built today we just have the forty seven massive core columns  my trying to educate people and senator cantwell as office as to what the situation is and i've done a number of things have published articles published articles on architects and engineers for nine eleven truth recently  reached out to the staff members of camels office faxed copies of information faxed letters phone calls to her staff to let them know because i obviously wasn't getting any traction with senator cantwell herself to take any no interest at all in hearing what i had to say and so what i felt was the best thing to do was through peer pressure to try to apply some pressure to center account on so as effective as that might be reaching out to people in her staff and letting them know that that that this information had been presented to senator cantwell that she was not taking any action of any kind and let them know what kind of office they were working in and i think that kind of thing now when they sit down in meetings with each other well know when they look at each other's eyes you know that this information is out on the table that there's evidence that would very likely bring the wars to an end that senator cantwell as is shielding that they've seen letters that been written from architects and engineers asking for a new investigation and presenting the full breadth of evidence and nothing's been taken so i continue to work with center camels office to try to get some kind of action to take place but as any of you know that our activists are trying to get people to take action especially in public office it's a it's a it's a hard road to travel so but i continue to do it and take great joy in it i don't rely so much on them to take action i don't i don't allow them their their lack of action to dissuade me from continue to take action myself and i think that's been a big change in my attitude as i used to become very despondent when i would reach out to people i need to get you know silence in return and i don't i don't feel that way anymore i feel like my action is mine and i will continue to do this until you know people hopefully will wolves you know start to take action themselves so you know in reno has a couple of follow up comments and if there's any questions about senator cantwell or jeff's efforts to adjust her thinking educate her so what i want to say is if you go to that virtual action kit and you sign up as a local contact or an action group if you're willing i'll put you on an e mail lists where you can keep updated on actions so that you can be part of a national team and in washington state if we decide we want to go to senator cantwell his office of be awfully nice if you would sign up so that you're getting this information so we could reach out to you and get you to you know put some pressure on her and one of the things that we found is even if they don't take action if we can show that we were there and we can show people the evidence that we brought it actually points out to the rest of the people in our communities just how broken the system the system is so it's helpful if you if you sign up to help through that actually kit as an action group or a local contact part of the solution is awareness we have to know how broken the system is if you figure that out yourself yeah absolutely so like i said it's a it's it's a matter of just continue to stay stay on him and continue to send information to him and i'd love to organize with other people if i'm going to do more action on the camels office to have fifty phone calls instead of three or four and i think when their staff continue to field calls it makes an impression on them they may act like it doesn't but i'm i'm  certain of that does so like i said my attitude is continue to work to bring us but it's far too important to let it slide so anyway that's all i have to say and i many thanks to people like richard and eric and to rina for all their efforts t a lot of people are doing something in fact roger i would like you to bring you up in a moment to discuss what it is that the nine eleven truth group is doing as a whole to raise awareness in seattle think about that one for a minute and then i want to as we wind up after some of the other questions are addressed hopefully i want you to get a feeling for where eric has been heading in his personal life in his personal quest toward truth not just truth about nine eleven but larger issues that he's opening up to and i think i will be enlightening for all of us so consider those words then we'll have the next look around the room and i would hope to have seen more people here mostly i see x hippies from the vietnam era people that have had to endure the death of president kennedy and on and on with life that we've we've come to realize that that's what we're getting from our government but to bring more people in here my question is as an architect and an engineer right across the street from the university of washington and i would think that there'd be some alliance with the architect in engineering staff to make it a project if nothing else that had a requirement that they come in listen to this information bring the information back to the class write it write something about it but a way to get young people that have never really had this same feeling that we all have and have experience but try to get more people in the audience to to hear the lesson and let those people young people in colleges because that's where most of the action has always come from as a college campus so that's my question has there been any contact with the architects and engineers or staff at the universities and asked them to come to these meetings yeah we routinely i've given th the presentation that preceded this film was nine eleven blueprint for truth and i have given this presentation to our presentation over one hundred seventy times and around the world and we always almost always invite architects and engineers mass at the universities the faculty particularly and other architects and engineers where local activists take the time to reach out to them will get about one or two in response this is as unpopular in the arctic to engineering community as it is in from the people you talk to there is no difference and you would think oh my god if they'd listen because you know they do buildings and i'm i'm an architect and i worked in an architecture firm with sixty people i personally handed out our former our our existing preexisting d us yes several of them signed the petition but did they do anything people it's very difficult to get people aware of this agreeing with it and then doing something about it that it's a huge for whatever reason the psychologists help us probably to understand some of these dynamics but it's quite a ladder to climb from awareness to action is the fear from politics i mean why is it that the architects and engineers that really understand this that or are given the classes that are currently building these buildings why are there more architects and engineers signing on because i was fifteen hundred i mean there should be thousands yeah there really should be those that become aware of it  tend to sign on it's just giving them in this audience these audiences very difficult so you know it's almost like people's capacity to take  this information is like this big and the people that are still sitting here are obviously mostly all have the capacity to to grasp enormity of the issue but most people out there don't care if you address that i mean yeah one of the things that i've noticed is it's people don't like having difficult conversations when you bring this up to people they have reactions that are not fun for us to watch you watch people treat you with dismissiveness or people getting upset in front of you they're disturbed or they're the e you know puzzled contain you know trying to kind of just brush you off and nobody likes to experience that that's when i first started talking about this i was really uncomfortable so uncomfortable that i thought if this is how most people feel when they try to talk about nine eleven no wonder why they don't but personally i've had enough training that that i can you know care for people in the matter how uncomfortable that they are so i keep at it so that's what i really say is when you when you're trying to talk with people in their own comfortable be kind towards them be empathic towards them what's most important to the if you can guess that you will start to build the bridge of trust so magine ing that the architects and engineers and other people who don't talk about this is just because it's uncomfortable so my my my hope is that you will persist in by having more people talking about it and makes it more comfortable for other people to talk about it so that's a good boy eric can you address this personally where where you got in your exploration of post nine eleven was not alive and well as for me it's just it's become very clear it's fear in law and this brings up fear brings up fear and anger and nobody likes to go there and i know from the fire service because it's and i feel what my experience has been is the people been more traumatized are the ones more resistant to it because it blooms deeper and so from the fire service there's less firefighters that are willing to look at this than probably any other cross section that i've run across so it's i mean we can all guess the people we should be asking the ones that are anger and i wanted revenge for first when i thought i was the one thousand terrorists and then when i thought i was a shadow government and where i wasn't really willing to go was inside and go what was my role how did i show up and that was the journey that really transformed my life and so what i've seen missing is what you're talking about is the compassion and the love and that's where the organization i founded now is called one becoming one and what we're doing is applying it's taking it to another level where i now see nine eleven is the greatest gift humanity has ever been given and it's hard for people to grasp that especially they're just starting to see it because it's it's so horrible but deep down inside i know for me that's the truth because my life is change for the better now and i know the planet is about to transform in a massive way and when i was stuck in the audience here speaking with you what i couldn't see was the hundreds of thousands of organizations and people around the planet there wide awake that understand exactly what's going on that are building the new systems that are going to replace these old ones when they're burning up and so the story i tell myself now i see like a fire operation and so most of you out imagine know what the phoenix rising is and that's what i see humanity what's happening right now in order for the phoenix to rise the old has to burn away and so if we look at it as fear is fire that's what's happening the world's burning bangerz it's just engulfing it but what's coming through is an entirely new world and new systems and the then the key word of crux right now and this is where our organization as it is applying what we know in the fire service that works so well is if we put the fires out too early on the phoenix rising then those old systems the government all these things that need to go away won't go away so they'll still have control so if we put it out too late those new systems are going to burn up because the government's going to get more control and now we're not going to be able to have these things open so it's a very fine line that the universe or god or whatever you know each individual calls it is walking at how do we make this happen and so where were applying at the skills from the fire service is we're looking at first how do we operate lies this entire movement not just nine eleven truth but these new systems being born the political activism that's going to have to happen we need to unify as one and how do we do that when we come together in love we start practicing what's called heart resonance and so we're working with institutes and a lot of foundations around the globe behind the scenes right now and we're putting together a massive plan that's going to be modeling the fire service in a way that we're going to put the leaders of these organizations and you'll be invited here soon through what we call the heart academy and that heart academy is going to train people and how to start operating and working together more efficiently and it will be unify and not where it's polarizing with beliefs we're looking at what's the common commonality we have and then how do we  calling the unified collaboration system and in the fire service we have what's called the incident command system or modeling and after that and we're looking what are the key tools like if we showed up at a fire if you think what's going on around the world nine eleven truth isn't all that i mean there's a lot of other fires going on besides nine eleven and so if we showed up at a fire and all we had was you know we didn't have our hoses we had different packs on we had every radios are on different channels there's no way we'd ever put that fire out so what we're looking at not what we're an off initial thought is we're looking at how do we come together as common tools and common practices so that when you go here to seattle the nine eleven truth or anywhere else it's going to make it more seamless and when then once you're ready to transition from this to the next phase of your life it's going to just segue right and so it's going to exciting to share but that's that's what i've been working on currently running against a congressman in the second congressional district who's a democrat and i'm a democrat so i'm running on the on the nine eleven issue also and also i want to see bush prosecuted for war crimes but getting back to  i'm a retired counterintelligence a hotel of a body your name and my name is dick mcmanus in your district in the i'm running in the second congressional district against congressman rick larsen who's a ten year incumbent basically has been a platform to talk about nine eleven and talk about them why we aren't prosecuting bush for war crimes but just to to do a little background on me i'm a retired counterintelligence agent and i did a lot of analysis of terrorism counter terrorism was part of my job one of the questions i wanted to ask is how come you didn't show any of the steel beams that were cut like in a forty five degree angle yeah good question there were a lot of pistol beams that were cut in forty five degree angles there were also iron workers up on scaffolding cutting after nine eleven cutting the beams that forty five degree angle as well so we started getting into these arguments with debuggers and so forth about which which of them were cut by whom and how the argument was unnecessary and we stuck with the evidence that unarguable i just should have another question is regarding the dust has anybody else collected samples of dust from nine eleven and so we got four random samples from four people who collected souvenirs is there any be process of finding other samples so we have more witnesses to the fact that they were collected so we have a better and increased probability of chain of custody being a sound yeah there is a lot of dust out there and there isn't an organization has taken responsibility for cataloging collecting it organizing it encouraging others to bring forth more dust it's it's not something we've taken on and no one else has either in would do to the pentagon but there are two other independent studies currently the pentagon is a huge issue it's a rat's nest of misinformation this information and lack of information at a lot of argument within the nine eleven truth movement about it so but those of us who are  in the nine eleven truth movement all agree unanimously about the following one nothing should hit the pentagon it's the most highly defended building in the world two that the legit pilot piloting that aircraft who didn't who failed cessna flying school should not have been able to fly that plane if it if a plane did hit the pentagon into a he would have an experienced terrorist would have flown it struck down into the roof of the pentagon but what did he do flew all the way around two hundred seventy degrees around the back side of the pentagon dropping eight thousand feet in less than a minute or so and it hits what the auditing department this is who was civilians mostly who were auditing the two point three trillion dollars that were missing from the pentagon so we all agree that there needs to be an investigation of the pentagon and that they should reveal the high resolution dozens of cameras that would show what did or didn't hit the pentagon so real important we don't go there for those reasons margaret comments and i question before this all happened  person who owned the twin towers he struck all of his money out of the basement and they all the gold bricks were taken out the day before this all happened so obviously that was really planned to have happened that after seeing the film tonight i you know i'm going to prison i'm a teacher i'm going to present to the teachers that work they will not want to hear about it at all everything has to be happy conversation because i know i will present to man that flew the jet to where the terror asked how did they plan the exploding of the buildings and the airplanes at the same time really important questions well if you were in charge of planting and placing explosives in the world trade center twin towers would you trust the hijackers who failed us in a flying school to fly those planes into those buildings which most pilots suggest that they couldn't even do going five hundred miles an hour it's just too tough of a target probably not most people in nine eleven truth movement believe that those jets were fitted with remote control guidance which was available technology at the time or the terrorist ok these are great questions i don't have answers other than my ability to speculate which you if you'll come have a beer with us you can listen to some other people speculate a whole lot more interesting lee then mine because i'm a technical guy thank you oh last question let's go we got thirty seconds oh ok come and have a beer with us thanks everybody denied and ignored crucial evidence the american people absolutely need the truth of nine eleven more than fifteen hundred architects and engineers and twelve thousand others including many scientists have signed a petition calling for a scientific investigation of the destruction of the twin towers and world trade center buildings the report issued by the national institute of standards and technology referred to as nist was not valid science there talking about a single column near collapse or failure that resulted in a total collapse of building building number seven and the send it in freefall for the first one hundred feet which means that there was absolutely no resistance that this sent whatsoever so all of the columns really needed to be severed at the same time the symmetry is the smok and this has admitted it went into freefall for eight stories you don't need to be an engineer or an architect to see what happen document from fema appendix seat that documented that the evidence of melting steel in an office fire you cannot generate enough heat to melt steel were these iron microspheres present in all of the dust be needed to have been formed in extremely high temperatures all the characteristics of the microspheres along with what i see in the attack of the this is not science i went out to new york after nine eleven happened to show support and attend funerals and just be there any way i could and i was down at ground zero you know several days when we watched them pull out just pieces and it was you know so emotional i just couldn't go there and so i was so angry and i just wanted you know when i was told that what terrorist did i just want to do attack i mean i was just in that that mode where i just why i wanted revenge really is what it came down to and so i really couldn't go there and my lieutenant for years had been asking me even questioning me about it he just point out things that didn't make sense and he was talking about tower seven and i went watch anything i went to look at the pictures because i thought he was crazy i literally thought how can you question our government how can you question our country and it wasn't until a military friend of mine asked me a question about something else that wasn't directly related to nine eleven but it linked to it and so that had me look at it from a different angle and it wasn't shoved down my throat and so once i did that and i started looking at the evidence i i saw some things that didn't make sense and so then i said well wait a second so i went through a range of emotions once i had this like whoa what we've been told doesn't make sense and a lot of people will say this is in the past it's not we have people dying today that were there they did they gave everything they could for america and we as a country are ignoring them and we promised we'd never forget but it looks to me like most people have forgotten and they want us to forget and we are at war over this we've lost a lot of our freedoms over this and we don't have the real story on what happened because there wasn't a proper investigation done and that's what all we're doing is just asking for people to just really look at this and as firefighters what we're really asking for firefighters is there are so many of them out there right now that i know believe the way we do because they've contacted me but they they they're afraid to sign the petition we have to demand our freedoms and we have to live like we're free so whether that fear is there or not if you give in to that fear you're not living like you're free and that's what i had to tell myself because i was afraid to start this organization for those same reasons and it's been difficult you know but i really is it liberating at the same time because if you don't live in that fear and believe in the you know the power of love and the power of people coming together we can change the world i'm richard gage fires have never  before caused the collapse of any skyscraper even though there are numerous examples of much hotter larger and longer lasting fires in these buildings and in the case of building seven the fire that nist said started the collapse had actually burned out over an hour before it could not have caused the collapse as nist claims this forty seven story modern steel frame skyscraper which was not hit by an airplane collapses mostly into its own footprint like a house of cards as fast as a bowling ball falling off the side of the building in just under seven listen to the experts building number seven b sounded in freefall for the first one hundred feet which means that there was absolutely no resistance to the center whatsoever missed has admitted it went into freefall for eight stories and going from motionless to freefall instantly that's a bother some part of the puzzle because nist never explained it we've got a building that came down on its own footprint so all of the columns really needed to be severed at the same time in order for that structure to fall the way that we saw the symmetry is the smoking gun the whole building completely comes down in one continuous motion the could have been  structural resistance the scientific forensic evidence ignored by nist but carefully reviewed by teams of technical professionals corroborates the hypothesis of explosive controlled demolition