welcome my name is natasha sherman and i am your host and my guest today is peter what barry so peter got his undergraduate degree psychology degree from harvard he got his master's in social work from boston university is trained in hypnotherapy and past life regression he is in private practice as a psychotherapist and hypnotist with a focus on the use of spirituality and faith as tools for personal transformation and liberation he is also a student of the edgar casey readings has been a student of them for over thirty years and the association that is committed to carrying on the work with edgar casey's writings is the association for research and enlightenment and actually that's what we're here to talk about today welcome peter thank you as you to be here so you know in doing my research there are so many different ways that we can go because it's endless and maybe you could just say i mean most people have heard of edgar cayce say but maybe you could just say briefly if you could like who he was and why we should pay attention well he was  born from in rural kentucky so you know he was born with certain psychic abilities that were really not much explored until in his twenty's he lost his voice and then through hypnosis he was able to regain his speaking and this present kind of unusual experience because they started asking him if he could do what he had just done for himself or other people and this is what became called readings edgar cayce he would go into a trance state and he could give a reading most of them were for people's health so somebody was ill he could both diagnose the illness and then prescribe the treatments for him but then he also gave readings about what we called the new age and i think that's particularly most relevant to what we're going through in modern times so i want to talk about that in a minute but i just wanted to you know i had watched a documentary about him and you know one of the things that i didn't know was that this was not something he sought after it was even troublesome to him because it was a gift where he could see people's illness and diagnose it and of course people were flocking and demanding and from what i understand he had a hard time saying no and so he would continue to do these readings and you know one of the things that i thought about when i heard that it lost his voice and i'm just making a leap here and then said he was going to go out and sell insurance with his father and i thought maybe that was the universe saying that's not what you're supposed to be doing you can't sell while you can't speak so maybe it was just redirecting him to this path because then as you say he underwent hypnosis he saw the issue and it sort of resolved itself but as and one of the things also  that he was a man of faith and to read the bible maybe sixty eight times from what i understand yes a one time for each year is life yeah that's pretty incredible and so i want to talk a little bit about the new age but i want to talk about the past life regression because typically that doesn't fit into the christian model and yet when he really read the bible from what i understand he did see some things that pointed to that concept so in your work with people and past life regression in the work that he did what was the purpose or use of that of ideas i have he was like you said he was a devout christian and so he made a promise to himself with this reading business he said that if he ever gave a reading that hurt somebody or that went against his christian beliefs  he would stop giving greedy and readings and so when reincarnation came up as a theme in his readings he took a pause and it took him a while to to reconcile christiana day with reincarnation and we're not really sure exactly how he did that but certainly there are passages in the bible which can be interpreted insinuating the possibility reincarnation and you do that with people yes it edgar cayce it gave two main types of readings they were all they had their health readings or life readings and a health reading was basically somebody that was ill who you know couldn't get a conventional doctor was unable to to help them and so he worked mostly with those folks and so those were two using a spiritual model and yet what i gather is you do use past life regression right so what used to happen with your casey is that you could go to him and he would access something called the  and he would bring forward three or four past life times that were relevant to what you were dealing with in this lifetime so it would point out perhaps your strengths and it might point out some challenges that you had or patterns that you're dealing with from past lives that are playing in this like and what i teach people to do and what i've learned how to do is that we you don't have to go to somebody else to access the akashic record for yourself you can go into trance states and access that yourself you see i think at your case you had to go into quite a deep state of trance to access somebody else's akashic record but i think our own personal record is not very far like i think a bit like there's a central library which has many many books and you might have to drive into town to get to the central library but each of us may have a little personal library in our house and i think that's our what i would call our personal akashic record and there you can easily access relevant past lives wow and so this is not you know there are some people who take this very lightly oh you know i think any time i've ever talked to people you know they talk about past lives everybody's been a queen or i can you know it's like oh ok and how many kings and queens were there and how does this impact you in this lifetime so i'm assuming you've done past life regression for yourself and what's what have you integrated from that into your current life well you know the regression will help you or open your eyes to a lot of different things you know there's there's some personal issues you know a lot of times it's our families that represent our soul group and so there's issues with our family that are patterns that we're trying to work through and then sometimes you have readings that go into kind of bigger seems like work seems like dynamics and past lives that are repeating themselves now is the focus of your professional work i could give you examples of both of those with or one of each if you like yes well consciousness so i went to his training and the back story is that i have a sister that i wouldn't think i had any big issues with or big karma with but the only if i looked at a family picture from childhood and i saw h i might wonder who is that and then i'd say oh that's right that's my sister she was a little bit odd so i was never terribly close to her was close to my other brother and my sister my other sister but then as she grew up she was a little too close to my mother and so she married a man who kind of set the boundaries and you know when that was going on i thought that was fine but then he started to set boundaries with everybody with her own son and so i was kind of upset by that and maybe more than i don't know it was really upsetting me and i member talking to a friend about it and when you're out they are you have these new age enlightened friends and he was telling me why can't you let it go why can't you just love your sister the way she is and you know it was kind of like  advice that you just want to like him so yes so i just i knew there was something there but i wasn't quite sure so just did a regression at the brainwaves training and i saw myself going to prayers as a priest in ireland and i was not happy at all i didn't enjoy the experience of going to prayers was very wrote it was no life in this kind of monastery and so the person regression me asked me how did i get there then i saw myself as a four year old or a seven year old boy with a little suitcase being dropped off at the orphanage and i look and see my parents and that's my sister and her husband and i knew that i was holding on to that resentment but the healing aspect was i i realize that in this life i was holding on to the perspective of the little boy but i was also in the regression i was able to experience my sister's feelings and i could tell that she was torn up that she had twelve children she couldn't beat all of them  wasn't personal and they thought that i might be the strongest one to be able to handle a growing up a little so i didn't know that as a little boy but then i also realized it was ireland and this was happening to many children so again it wasn't personal and so seeing it from that one this perspective really helped me heal i realize that we get injured by our separate you and the healing comes when we take in that larger perspective i when i came out of the regression i called my sister and you had talked  said you want to get together and she said well i need to check with my husband she called him back you know she called me back and she said well he wants to join us but we can't talk about all these issues you all the old me would have said well i'm going to talk about each one but this new i miss new person said ok let's just get together talk whatever you guys want talk that's i haven't seen a thing i wouldn't say they're my favorite people but i don't feel any toxicity i feel like i bless her and and it was something that was almost like a karma that i had that i wasn't even aware of yeah and that's very powerful because sometimes just and i've had those moments just seeing the information kind of liberates you yet as you say you know one of the things you talk about like they're not necessarily your favorite people and in something where i listen to a talk i think you are doing you mention martin luther king saying you know you have to love everyone but the really great part is the following line you don't have to like them you know as human beings we have preferences so you may prefer not to hang out with this person but as you say you can still bless them you know go ahead live your life without the binds of resentment yes yes and then i think that that's one of the main reasons of reincarnation is these these resentments and grudges that bind us and i think once you once you've let those go like i think forgiveness is the master law grace once you forgive and forget let go then at some point you can choose to incarnate or you can go on to the multiples you know infinite schools and other places in the universe right so that was a question that slid in there get back to it but can yes you said that we can do this on our own so how do people learn to do this on their own well you know it's a little bit you know after casey was very connected to jesus and so there's a lot of themes and cases material that are christian that read i was raised christian so i resonate with them and i remember how jesus said i don't want to bring give you fish i want to teach you how to fish and so when i do a session with somebody i wait the process for them unconsciously so that i'm emphasizing that they know the way to get there and then once they've had the experience i give them a lot of post hypnotic suggestions about continuing this process that they come back off and that there's more here for them that they know what the way to get here and so in that way the person can leave the session and more easily do this on their own in their own meditations which is what i do now i'm able to do a kind of trance or regression work i do a lot of one sessions yeah and i think that even that yes so i want to ask you again you know the whole concept of the new age you know  so you know i can shift and dance in between spiritual and seeing that there you know we're in this karmic predicament but we get a say and we tap into the spiritual we tap into the whole oneness whatever and yet on a daily human level it's like my heart hurts when i see children being ripped from their parents you know so what do we do with that well you know i think that  i don't think the model with enlightenment is to not have your feelings you know i think it's the it's to have your feelings and then not necessarily get overwhelmed by them but make a choice you know make spiritual choices about how you're going to deal with those you know so as you know i think we are being faced with a lot in our country that's very very upsetting but in some ways you know it's is there a purpose to what we're the horrors that we're seeing and is it in some ways to do things have to get really bad for before we wake up because i think that you know who or christ it's really about is a process of awakening and and sometimes we don't awaken when the water is lukewarm sometimes has to either be freezing or boiling so i do think that a lot of what we're being confronted with is to make us make stronger choices and to be more active in changing our world so i have a question about that and you know i'm not a personal question at some level so you know i get that and i certainly am a believer in karma and you know all of that and this whole awakening and spirituality but if i look at history it's like you know what are the lessons that we have to keep learning over and over again i mean hitler existed you know did millions of people have to die to in order for somebody to awaken and did we awaken enough and there's a there's a point that you reach and you go ok so what's the point well you know it's a little bit like you know like spirals and so you know i think that if you look at if you look at a spiral from a certain angle it looks like a circle like it keeps repeating but i do think that there is an evolution and then maybe you know all of us would like it to be faster you know wish it was a straight line but it is a right i think we revisit certain things i think that since we're we're conscious now i don't think we know what it would have felt like a hundred years ago five hundred years ago i do think that there is a spiritual evolution that's going on and i think things they there's not linear there's little ups and downs but i think if you look at it consistently over time i think we're becoming more spiritualized as a as a society i'd like to believe that and you know i'm not i grew up kind of exploring religions so  i don't know a lot about christianity i did i did go to parochial school because i grew up in the woods in canada and that's with what assisted but you know i heard somewhere and i love this context that you know without judas christianity could not have existed we need a judas and maybe this is part of what judas is all these challenges that helped to awaken us but in terms of the new age so one of the things that you said in your one of your talks was that it's now more of a collective awakening that it can't be zone can you say more about that well i think that one of the benefits of that that the time that we're living in is that it's easier to access higher dimensions consciousness if you don't try you don't know that you just it just seems the same but i think that like with the work that i do it's easier and easier to get people into higher dimensions of conscious but i find that very helpful that if we you know i think that the way that consciousness rises is each one of us is like a balloon and if we each of us raise our consciousness a collectively raises the consciousness and helps us i think that we're moving through a time where we're trying to transcend what you're want to make a disclaimer that this is my view but just like the christ had to be in some ways that the highest had to die the death of the lowest i so think that the n take christ also has to the lowest has to be raised to the highest to get the attention so i think right now we're seeing the weight just the way that the christ was brought into collective consciousness i think the anti christ by anti christ i don't mean like that individual like the christ as a consciousness of love and peace and sharing and the anti christ is the opposite it's selfishness it's greed it's me ok so he defines the anti christ a lover of self love or you know self self aggrandizement lover of strife and all those things that that we're seeing in our time this kind of a lot of a we're not thinking collectively it was we were trying and then there's been this pothole that we're going to fall in and it does yeah that's a good description and you know so one of the things i do i'm a life coach and so this you know people kind of me and so do you have and again you know we're kind of going between and her casey and your personal perspective but your personal perspective comes out of all of that as well as the other things that you do  so one of the things the common conversation one hears is about technology and on the one hand technology is not going anywhere and it's done extraordinary things and we can do extraordinary things with it and yet at the same time it seems to be out of balance so if i look at it it's like it is separating us it is more of us versus them it allows people to look at life like a movie which allows people to video someone drowning instead of saving them yes so how do we deal with that and stay conscious well i think that a rule of thumb that i operate with is that nothing is all good and nothing is all bad and i also think that that every new generation the older generation thinks that they're going to hell in a handbasket again you know every my generation we were the losers and that we look at that mask on and so i think in some ways we have to entertain what is being shown to us and what are we what are we learning in the situation and so just like that spiral i talked about i think that we have been if you if you talk to editor casey we've been at a place where technology has been used for the destruction of the planet but the thing is is that that that has to be revisited so i think we're at a time where we're revisiting technology with the potential for it to destroy the planet with the hope that it doesn't that we use it for good rather than and for destruction he talked about it lantus was a time of high technology that they they eventually destroyed their continent with with technology and so casey said a lot of the atlanteans were reincarnating in the twenty's and thirty's and they've been part of this boom in technology but hopefully we don't destroy our world again and i think that each time we learn and that there is a progression hopefully you know we all have to do what we know best to do to make these things happen as we've been here before and it hasn't gone well so and i loved the visual and you know i've heard that but when you really bring it into focus the whole thing about the spiral it's not a circle and it's not a straight line  people have botching you know so you know what is it that you can say to them like here are some tools here some places to take a look like again i think you know people i think  longing for a sense of nene ngs and you know sometimes we call it purpose and sometimes people get stuck in a what's my individual purpose but just about living a life that where read the stupid maybe you're driving with one hand but nowadays we have g p s i don't think i'd know how to get home without the g p s you know so now we have a system which ties into a satellite and that guides us is i think we have our own g p s if you want to learn how to make things easier you know you can go around life with a map and it's very hard but if you tap into your higher and a guidance system it's much easier so i think that for me the key is really learning how to do and of work you know that the easiest as meditation so that you like if you over identify with this flesh suit the end of the story is not going to be good you know whether you live to seventy or eighty to ninety some point you're going to be you know you're  pretty story so over identifying with this is going to be a lot of anxiety and stress but if you attach also to an internal part of you that really helps you kind of you know that this too shall pass you know it's not about being pass we'll have to keep doing what we're doing but i think sometimes you know like if there's a crisis in a scituate like crisis at a movie theater you know there's somebody there that has is it's their head straight and helps everybody through the situation so i think that that if we're going to get through this time the more of us that can keep our head straight through the crisis the better more likely we are to get to the other side so i just think that if you answer that question easily i mean the simplest answer is make sure that you spend some time developing a connection with your higher source or otherwise you are going to get caught up in a lot of fear and anxiety and stress that that can be avoided yeah and i think when you talk about higher self you know there are some people who i think that that has to be a specific religion and it doesn't it's just you know the something other than your flesh to describe it and most of us have experienced some moments where where we just without invitation access that and feel this connection and perhaps it's just nurturing that so meditation is one of very helpful and anything that gets you into your set your ego aside and you can get more pure transmission of soul energy and that's why i do hypnosis work because i think hypnosis work is a very effective way to get your ego aside and get soul energy to come through and you know that that's not so esoteric that's not so difficult to reach for and i think every one of us who is listening to this has access to that in some way and i think what you're saying is just just to reach for something that takes you even slightly above the current you know stuck in your body and in the physicality only i mean just just today a man came in to see know this is this week is the congress at the erisa we have people from around the world that are coming here and this is a fellow who's you know a good old boy from arizona and has had some curiosity about atlantis and so he came in to try to have a regression to find out what was going on and he for about an hour to have had very strong energy going through him and he was shaking and he felt that there was some weight that he was holding that was removed and then he got a transmission of information that he didn't want to share it was very personal and that was fine it is wife and family with their supper haps it was just something that you would share with them later but that's the sort of thing that if you if you open yourself up to this there's a tremendous amount of you know i think that most of us are living our lives without the g p s and we're just wandering around just like jesus said i come that you might have life not just life but life more abundantly i really like that's my gospel i think that there's ways that i try to facilitate people accessing their own inner resources and so that they can live an easier life well we are actually get the end of our time so that's a perfect place to end so thank you so much and i invite people to check out to get in touch with you if they have questions and i appreciate you taking the time to do this you're very welcome it's a pleasure my name is natasha sherman thank you for joining us