from los angeles california here is that which is with john rogers that which is presented by m s i the movement of spiritual inner awareness movement dedicated to awakening the spiritual heart within each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual advisor  f the founder and president of the institute for individual and world peace and other organizations for the purpose of improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and he has been teaching in conducting seminars for many years to seminars and title guidelines in dealing with people right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about the movement you know it this this process of discipline regarding rules and regulations really gets extremely hard for people to follow because innately we all feel i should be free i shouldn't have to do that and sure i feel the same way too why not i think that's goes with being human and having the human form but i also found out years ago when i came to california the speed limit was not set it was like per existing conditions and so you really never knew how fast you could go or when you would get a ticket and it was always like wow line of the existing conditions is the same way that policeman is going to give me the ticket things is the existing condition how my going to know what are the rules how is he going to evaluate my driving performance and it it got difficult to say the least and so i said why don't they just have a speed limit so that you will know what that is and when you know what it is you'll be free because you know you can't do something policeman can't do something unjustifiable to you because he doesn't like the car you drive or your hair or something else so it's interesting that the rules are made as an independent reference point for us and if we can accept those as guidelines and not as ball and chain and prison walls we start getting free but the big key the big key in all this the magic word for the golden age is going to be attitude you've heard me come back to this over and over again when we are having a rough time our perception of it our attitude towards it is going to influence our whole beingness towards that and if we can have a positive mental attitude not necessarily being poly any about it if there's something wrong and you have a negative mental attitude use that to correct the situation to get it right it isn't looking at and say or they're bleeding to death but i have a positive mental attitude they will bleed to death now you're saying how are you there bleeding to the let's get busy and help them and move on and then attitude so it isn't just sitting with a good attitude and not being involved in life it is been involved but it's been involved in a detached way and that detachment is something w be working on until the day we leave the planet and who knows for some maybe even longer the whole process of being disciplined early in life is very important but i think far far too many of us were disciplined in terms of negativity and so we thought we're really been punished you know in that lower part of us recorded that and made all sorts of guilt associations and other problems and we start carrying them on to our life and then we turn around start doing it to our children and at some point we have to break that process of passing off negative attitudes to our children and even that little baby th brand new don't think for one minute that it doesn't understand in its way what your saying and when you are training it yes training it much like you train a dog to  stand up and the heel is much like that or over and over and over and very loving but you explain to that form we call the child the love that you have for and why you're doing and don't worry about baby talking to it or anything like this but present it to them as you do present love your attitude towards it will also come love in your touch will come loving your energy to that child will come loving and that baby will play back then is when you think i'd lay down my life for my child i want to gets old you say do that and i say i don't want to now you have rebellion anarky what do you do you don't knock them down well it's really important to explain to them look i have a headache i don't feel well and you can't have the television loud i don't care what you think about it they might as well understand that you are the authority but don't beat him up and turn the television up explain to him i have a headache it's bothering me i'm working up to get rid of it part of my working on it if you turn that down part of working out is for you to come back and rub the back of my neck part of it is for you to clean up your room let them understand that you also are having these situations or when they grow up see they think well when i get to be older i won't have this problem that that isn't true we still have the problems of procrastination as an adult we did as a child unless someone cares enough to discipline years ago when people were being drafted into the military it was some of the families that was just a catastrophe in some families it was a discouraged blessing for that young man to be taken to the military and they had make him stand up and stand up straight for long hours long periods of time and build strength inside of him and they were he was is called discipline and then when that moment came for survival he had the ability to survive because he had the discipline and that's called freedom when we have to get our counting down and we have to get our bookkeeping done we have to get the car wash we have to do these things let's just move right into him and do them that's the discipline people tell me oh i'm having trouble how i got to write how am i going to write i say sit down get a pencil paper well you tell the c the pants on the seat of the chair that's the first process for something in the typewriter hit a key start a physical action moving then that part of you that is the repository of information and knowledge will start opening and sometimes it'll just flood through and then they say well it came through too fast i c type that fast i say look dummy get a tape recorder and talk into a tape recorder and say oh yeah i had thought of that and say what kind of book are you writing you know might not be too intelligent if you're not using your intelligence to help you do that i've seen a lot of people who have written these beautiful books and you go to visit them and you think how one earth could they write that book i mean this is remarkable well i tell you writing is a technique you sit down long enough and you work with it long enough you can get it down nobody says these things are easy no one but they're hard to do if you don't do them and they're easier to do if you put yourself to it some people just use the mind they do in their mind thinking they're it's done in on that level it is and if they're paying for that level good luck like a job like that too because how are they going to know what you have or haven't done but on this level the physical we enter into it do not be afraid of entering in to live life is awareness awareness is to be lived to enter into it to gain the experience now comes t caution take care of yourself saying take care of others and don't hurt yourself don't hurt others very simple and people say john roger there's so many people say this is wrong and that's wrong and this is wrong and that's wrong how my going to know how do i know what are the sins because they don't look at me but there are some guidelines and i use a very simple one a very simple simple one in dealing with people and it is if we do this will this distract them from god very simple this is going to throw them from their own awareness of the loving heart and if it's going too far as i'm concerned friends you've got  and some things aren't necessarily in that level they do because the work i do it's often there is a bar that level but many of you don't work in that level so you're is really was down to a few things also it hurt them and by destroying them how do i feel about this then you can run it through your mind with a creative imagination put it out there and see what it's going to look like as far as you can see it and if you start to feel funny inside about it don't do it if in doubt don't do it talk it out you start talking then look i don't know how to handle this situation in my mind i thought of doing this this this this and this but i got a funny feeling with it they may say yeah sure because that that part there would really hurt me so you still told them that's the verbal level and they still are put on notice of the progression they can do and they can handle all by themselves and you don't have to take that responsibility see the thing is last night we were talking about the greed and lust and avarice and why we keep hanging on to individuals when it's long past that we should not hang on to them not necessarily cut them off but we should not be letting them disrupt our emotional body and usually pay almost one hundred percent of the time we're there because we want something in return so set a deadline for your return and if it doesn't come through the door at that time say they've got me go thought i was going to use them they're using me ok we're all here to be used abused you know misused no used yes that's our process in fact if people don't use it we sometimes feel they don't love us it's like you didn't use me the way i want to be used what do you say you don't love me the way i want to be loved if you love me why didn't you use me this way well what are you entering into are you entering into lust green avarice control are you after their pocketbook their money what are you after with them you say well i'm just after their freedom don't be afraid of rejection they've already got and the way they maintain their freedom is for you to have them free inside of you if you come ok if you go if you stay it doesn't matter you're free and when they come and go you love them what is that that's when the first process is of unconditional loving let them be free inside of you and if you think of somebody and they're not free inside if you start getting uptight and you start looking at the negative and you start grinding your teeth then you better start checking what do you want from them it's really a need that needs supplied primary straight to god air water food clothing shelter protection love yes god will love you if you give him a chance all the other things are wants and desires so we must be very careful because when we have a want it also brings us child it's called the spare room we have desire brings the child is called sorrow and heartache and i just caps let all of the term rejection and so very hard want to work with because we'll set up patterns for people to follow in relating to our selves you must sit this way you must do this where you can't do this you can't do that difficult because the parents you experience can see down the road of experience and they attempt even vicariously to give their child the benefit of their years but that parents should also be one of the high priests of god they should carry the light of god in them and give to the light of god by explaining to the youngsters in detail hey and so maybe the child doesn't have all the brains you thought he should have you can't fool genetics so take time they had to repeat to you repeat to  what is wisdom practice practice practice practice all over and over and over we keep adding why you don't win until you get to the end and you don't get to the  and when you've endured all things you've gained the strength in the conviction of your ability that you don't have to worry or be concerned with negativity when you're disciplining a child when you're disciplining anyone first use love first use love hate if they don't understand it look i love you i want explain something to  then use wisdom the wisdom will be your experiences in life and tell them look i have gone through things similar like this this is been my experience and explain it to them don't be ashamed that your child thinks  parents never did anything wrong then they grow up thinking they can't do anything wrong they can't enter into life and they have tremendous problems because they're trying to be so perfect and have the perfect companion can that's hard to come by really hard you've been divorced you know what i'm talking about and you are thinking about it and you are going into it poor fools unless the perfection is the loving and you allow them room to be instead of trying to mold them into your form what you think they should be it's difficult because each one of us comes into this world with certain divine elements inside of us a certain packaging a certain computer key punch card henry going to run that key punch through come hell or highwater who are going to run it through and really what we want is for mom and dad to stand by his guidelines and if we get in trouble who my god don't forsake me don't forsake me the call compulsives are called obsession then it's easier for you you could start tuning yourself in more and more so when you disciplining a child love them present the wisdom and power automatically appears you don't have to say shut up because the love is gone the wisdom is gone and you're asserting power and it's negative and you're going to lose and you're going to lose some of these  can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar something like there's nothing funny about that that's really quite true we can catch more of everything with the sweetness of our being less than with the negative of our beingness if we attempt to force somebody or assert ourselves on them if they're worth their salt and believe me if it's your kid they are they're going to stand up to you  then you're going to have to physically abuse them and then the law of the land comes in and you get to pay the piper then when it all happens you say i don't know why i did that it's like you lost your own discipline you step beyond your own boundary lines of life you weren't disciplined back to the old drafting board back into it but here's the rub people mistake kindness for  and those who mistake it and usually their youngsters must also fill your physical presence so when they're yelling or screaming or do something wrong are they go run out in the street in front of a car and you grab them don't try to grab them lightly grab them hard enough that they can't get away for a lot of reasons and if you bruise their arm god bless them it's a blessing rather than have to take the body to the morgue it was done i was saying there is there is this time but these are the wisdoms and you may say well john roger the situation was happening i didn't know how to handle it and i didn't know what to do when this happened it's all over what i say that was karma if the inability to do anything with it was the karma chatted the most severe karma i can think of is the karma where you work hard all your life long hours to get ahead and you never get ahead your karma is not to get ahead it's just to work long hours and somebody else is always getting the results of your work right makes sense but if that's our karma for some was it is then why not discipline ourselves to correct our attitude say at least i know what it is i don't have to worry about being president or anything else i just gotta worry about going to work and doing it and they yell at me but they won't fire me because who else could they get such a good worker such low pay and i have no ambition to get ahead to take can be else's job everybody should love me feel secure around me but that's not true they'll think what are they up to i don't know how you going to handle that when folks somethings are left to guessing and that's a guess when i had on course i would probably handle it by saying you don't know do what i'm up to and smile and walk away and keep them busy for a week and that they'll be watching me everything i do and i don't have to worry about make a mistake because they'll call me ruth fast i am a state bank wrecked it was a mistake now so a lot of people don't want their mistakes pointed out they don't want their shortcomings revealed how are you going to know what it is you will never reveal to yourself by the m e who is going to reveal it to you the one you lead to your heart that one when you see to love honor cherish as long as you both shall something rather it should be as long as you both shall love because after that you still may be married but is not love it's not going to work it's going then you put up with them it's called contempt so i well it's the best i can do i guess i have to put up with  and i could go into a whole series of jokes at this point and a song in advance and you probably alter your coins because you would recognize very readily what this is i'm talking about they are pointing to you your next level of work on yourself not on them not on them yoursel that way no matter what environment we find ourself in if this is a disaster or catastrophe appears we say ok fine well that's the attitude of it you're starving to death i'm on a forty day fast ok that's that's laughing all right but we should be prepared to handle our physical level responsibilities not out of fear because then the thing we fear will come upon us it will come upon us but out of faith of preservation by entering into the disciplines of our own beingness giving ourselves flexible enough so that if we have to rent run a hundred yards fast to get out of the way of something we can do that you know like fifty yards will be short you got to the whole hundred maybe a mile in other words we must condition the physical body to be responsible to physical demands and there are many ways of doing this there yoga class and there and we could go on and start naming all of them it's the beautification trip if you will sure what's wrong with that create a good image in the physical body have no concern about that that is the sole image because it is what it is and if it's been made after god's image you don't have things to be concerned about and to find that out you're going to have to do those things that will scientifically take you to that as part of the evolution of your being can be done yes all of the bibles i don't just mean the christian bible you know as we start from genesis and end up with revelation all of the books the sacred scriptures from every religion every country all of them have pointed to the kingdom being with him but it would be foolish to think that happens inside this physical form but that we go into the gates of our beingness and it's right next to my humor you know we can label a lot of places in the physical body and where our memories right back in the gluteus maximus muscles you've heard you're saying you're a real pain in the rear and once we started alleviating the content of our rejections of ourself we start getting these out yes exercising will get them out taking care of yourself will get them out eating good food will help get them out assimilating it's lot better and that is for you to maintain yourself here in the physical world and he wealthy consciousness and happy and it's a rich riches dollar bills well has that inner consciousness that says i can do about all sorts of things and i'm consciousness all the time to lift up to a new consciousness all the time when you do that when you live to the new consciousness then you have overcome the world at that point only the next part of it is to maintain that as you get to another level and no matter where you think you are in god's paradise or hell the word you should read on the walls etc you keep on keeping on when somebody says you can't do it say fine and see if you can maybe they couldn't because they were too short or too tall or to something and it may be that you fit just perfectly into that but also pay attention to those people that speak to you and pay attention to what other people say of them for if you only hear good something's wrong they must also have a negative and a lot of the groups on this planet that are what we call moving into the new age consciousness that is really present blackness hard to get the group going because you know two feet can go faster than four for faster than eight and when you get a group you know you almost come to a stop it's called bureaucracy of nothing else so in the in the group when we enter into group action don't think what somebody else should do that you do that you walk by and it's dirty you clean it up don't wait for somebody else thinking it's theirs it's yours you sob you recognize that you handle it that is a discipline that you understand how with correct approach correct thinking you get free while you're in the physical body but don't take it to yourself that you're liberated because tomorrow or somebody may run into your car you say how could they do that to me i was free but your car wasn't his go it's got to stay here and run its tires and gas and oil and you gotta stay here and run the money to do that it was like i don't want to like sure when we take responsibility to ourselves in the physical world we also take the responsibility of maintenance we take all allied responsibilities even those that they didn't tell us to get married for better or for worse you say but i didn't i was going to get this bad right or you'd never have gotten married i agree with you i agree but that's where you find yourself now what do you do so i hope i do without him that can be done to you can live with the person for years marry and get divorced but you know a question you have to ask yourself if there's children in the family are you really doing a good thing for the family to keep a husband and a wife fighting together to keep the marriage together for the children are we really doing a good thing or maybe might it be a good thing to get them apart and let them get other partners who they can find joy and happiness and share that with the child and give the child a chance to learn a good discipline of course you say well that's the kids carmina for this isn't going to make it that way but why if we can cure it thing but i think you're my problem if you start talking to me find out they're not your problem you're your problem they reflect to the back to you for you to correct it then you say my god thank you it was such an easy cure to have someone who loves you stand by and assist you such an easy cure but too often again we still think well i should be perfect you shouldn't tell me look at you who are you like i'm the one that pointed out your shortcomings yeah you did well i'm going to point out two of yours when you get to our point out twenty more of mine i've got a list here we're working on it no no i just listed them so well somebody says you do such and such you say right that right there some people think because they've got it they shouldn't change it that's my karma bad breath well you can't do anything ok in humor sure but you still understand that those things are in there and because they go with having a physical body that should be some of the first things we start checking with ourselves we should check we should check our own levels you know the usual children we have the fortune to have around us just make it all worthwhile and if we don't do anything for ourselves because we're so unselfish let's do it for them let's be selfish enough to give them off the inheritance the heritage of our good works believe me every one of them are worth every one of them and the interesting thing to do is we're finding out that these youngsters that are in the movement they get something come sit on almost anybody's lap and the adults pick them up and love and the parents look at that and they get amazed like how come they love my kid and i'm having trouble well one thing is they're not living around him all the time that's one thing and the second thing is change your attitude because of somebody else can get along with them you can also but if nobody can get along with them don't feel bad if you're rejected they're having a hard time but don't give up on them and often we just sit down in our daily meditation and we invite their consciousness into our heart just by saying father i like mary jones to just be in my heart just a lover surround protector she go back that's all and when you think about what you're saying i think pink think loving or think that pure light of god if you're having a hard time with the visualization say god bless them if you haven't already probably have because of their being such a stinker somebody's going to get rid of them if they're still around god must be extending some mercy so then we just say thanks for them that's another part of us truly but that's another part of us and often the best thing for us to do with that part of us that's over there is leave them alone and let them go on to their destiny let them go on to their fate in your heart let them be free don't think of in terms of yeah you rip me off and you hurt me and you always talk back and you little this new little that they're walking away free and you're confined here beating yourself into a bloody pulp hopefully there we can handle the pope we just do it out but the other part is hard to handle so we have responsibilities don't mean we have responsibilities if we're going to enter into that we call sexual intercourse we have responsibility for child comes forward we can say well that was just f it's just best not to enter into levels that you're not formally going to be responsible for and if you feel rejected because somebody turned you down because they don't care to have that responsibility then feel rejected at least they're got their wisdom going they're being wise or say i can't handle that that's smart that's smart to let people know what you can't handle how i remember years ago i was going to tell anybody i could handle it i think one day i had like forty five or fifty things to do for that many different people and there was no way god could have done it and i was so plagued with that i didn't do any of it i rejected him all the same and then when i said i didn't do it they say why don't you tell me i said i didn't want her feelings they say you think this doesn't nice and now i know hurt your feelings but isn't there any other way and he said no no if you would have told me i would have gotten someone else to do it from then on hey that person took my inventory i was very nice what they said to me was not nice but then i was in a position to hear anything nice because i have done nice things so they came in on my level read my beans thrashed me a little bit not too much because i knew i'd hit back from then on that say will you do and i said i don't think i have time and you're far too important for me to take on that responsibility and then you end up not getting it done so you better get somebody else to do it that's a nice way to reject somebody you're far too important i love you far too much to say i'll do that when i know i can't please get someone else i would like them to tell me that i won't be able to do that they are love too but i just can't get it done and i don't want you depend upon me and then when i can't produce we have a disturbance with each other to say yeah i don't want that either and if you can't make it to the time we agree upon don't leave me in the dark coming up on the phone and tell me i can make it i know i should be there now i was on the freeway i was stuck in the traffic those things happen then when i enter into my discipline like yeah that happened to me too so i was like hey that's ok maybe we can do that again so we all are given a lot of different experiences in life some we call good some we call bad we should all call them experience so that when someone else comes to us and they've had that experience we understand and we enter into understanding with them and we accept what they say because it happened us and we cooperate with them and then we enter into the enthusiasm of life and they're glad to participate in they'll do things for you that you won't know about more lomas they'll think nice things about you and they'll pray for you and send light and love to you and who knows which one will be at that moment the a comedian and you might not even know which one was so if you don't know which one is doing it why ball out somebody the very one send you the light saved your life now you're going to bomb out that's not too smart you say well i don't know which one it was treat or treat them all bad treat them oh good why it's easier inside of you to treat somebody good if you treat him bad you've got to keep treating him bad after they leave and in your confin true in the greater study of man is made so we enter into the process of studying of learning and everyone who walks bias is part of this laboratory of god and we observe  watch and we learn and they have a vicarious lee we can enter into their experiences we simply hit by a car we say i want you there and we stay out of the way so each one is teaching we say why didn't like the way they taught me i'm sure you wouldn't but did you learn so you don't have to have that same lesson or do you get curious from university of hard knocks we get to make those choices we get the result of those choices we end up saying let's all get to mature emotionally to puberty let's grow up emotionally let's stop  haranguing each other as little kids let's accept responsibility of maturing adults and move into the spiritual flow of our life then while we live here we can enjoy as much as it's possible to enjoy that again comes to each person whatever you decide to do place it in god's will in god's hands ask god and then do what it does though god has said it's sham which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey o to respect donna them but that doesn't mean to be subservient to them merge as a means to be equal to him means that you respect them for what they do for where they are and what they're in this in god's kingdom is not magic is turning to your own vibration to the vibration of the loving is here in this beautiful place and if there was not loving enough here the people around this are representing another level of consciousness and we can't judge because we also go there this let your mind and your eye and your consciousness be single and that love everybody you see into a harmonious balance with all things and if you don't stay there it's because you've had to move out to help bring balance and might could other place so be it if you just consider that they looked at a pharaoh as their god and man you know the obvious thing is that someone considers that those images have power so by