to day to have in a studio with us attorney george holland who is the president of the oakland chapter and double a c p thank you so much for being here thank you for inviting we've got a lot of stuff to talk about today thanks so i'm going to jump right in and because one of the things i think is important that our viewers first of are understand why they in double a c p was formed and we probably even need to tell some of our viewers so the president of the oakland chapter because we have a national chapter but president of the oakland chapter branch what are your duties what do you charge with doing and i and i'm certain it's a long the rest we can't do and we're faced with some same problems that you're faced with but as a volunteer you asked for the volunteers to come and help you all right so people really expect us to do things that we're not really structured to do so when you ask me what duties i did not receive from the national office a perform a list ok how to conduct myself as a president ok for instance at one of the meetings on last saturday right i don't know them right you know i'm out here trying to seek equal rights and you know no one told me how do it know i'm president but i've never you know they have e mails they sent to a sell us policy something like that but nothing like what discrimination is i see it every time i go out so why don't i know what the problem is so i don't need some national office telling me what the naacp doesn't in my supposed to be doing supposedly but you know like i guess one of things that will probably end up talking about demonstrations yes they are all these demonstrations nationwide we got them you know black light has matter right on the question is where is the end of a c p well first of all we cannot get involved to demonstrate that we can't control because there's liability  going to get out there and get arrested or be and somebody doesn't like the vows and you be responsible for we can do that right but that actually makes sense if you know for for our viewers who are listening to this and understand because one of the things prior us you know going on the air that we were talking about this whole movement black lives matter but how many people really know that that was a movement that was started by they'll be t t community and what does that really mean as  relates to an issue you said i have i grew up in the south so i grew up with you know color negro then is african american and black american and and so the titles keep changing but the bottom line is is for people of color are black and brown people need to understand where some of these movements actually come from and what's the underlying reason for it but even more so the going back to you're just even talking about what's happening in public schools charter schools do people not understand that even as relates to charter schools you know what you're basically saying that you're going to give more money you know to an organization to run a charter school and what does that do for inner city children so i think what happens is that in oakland in particular ok you want to believe that they've been on if they have been experimenting with the children and i think that we're forgetting about what our purposes to provide a quality education for our children so they can compete right so it's not you know it's not so much whether shar schools or or public schools or whatever kind of school system you are going to create is a going to educate the children so i am from the traditional school system where you have boys and girls going to school together right that you have you know different kinds of of classes you know you have you have you have shops and you have college prep type courses stuff like that so a good mixture right and  certainly did but you're absolutely right and being raised in south one of the things that my parents i feel like they gave us they wanted us to get an education but one of the things that we had that i don't see said those practical things and we've gotten so caught up i think in chasing that dollar and you become complacent and that's one of the things that i talk about in my book is what's your plan b it's great have an education and not everybody goes to school all will get the same thing but what are you going to do you any end of that i would grow them self i grew up in a segregated housing project in south san francisco called why young people got to realize now you can actually you know you can you can reach your way to success right what you've got the ability to read yes then you have a tool that you can use to change your situation but you've got to take colby you know and the sad part about it is they don't even realize how short lived the sports life years and it takes one injury one injury everyone it's been in the news about the san francisco forty nine or you know player who retires at twenty four twenty five because he can't culture and personally i think it's very smart but you're absolutely right and it brings us back to as a race of people we have to understand that the power that we wield is actually in the ability for us to vote and to change things i've never met so many people who say that my vote doesn't count you don't mean anything and so what that tells me that they don't are so have a historical perspective about where you and i have come from and what we understand and what we've now and so they have lost that and to a lot of you know black families they don't talk about they don't want to remember the jews talk about the holocaust right they don't they don't forget we don't talk about those things which has brought us to where we are but what our president talks about right now you know is we need to be able to compete and they wait for us to compete has to happen right minds and with bright minds you've got to be able to do coding you've got to be able to understand computers and those are things that you just don't see a lot of young african americans in because they're they're striving for the quick dollar that's what they want if you think of history when they brought slaves of here to separate tribes that's right so the artisans and craftsmen you know they can practice their craft and art because they separated them call that negativism you got to get rid of that right you know you got you got to wait a minute you know we were in this together so we're going to patronize each other right like everybody else does you know i mean you know the other other races and cultures patronize each other they recognize that they are similarly situated and we probably get one of the most easily identifiable traits because it's color right i mean a color color you know i mean that is something that you can you've got you've got i mean we've got we've got an affinity you know that we can know and that we need to really pay attention to that and use to our benefit you know i mean whether you light skin a dark skinned you are the same you know man told you what you were pay attention to what's going on right and you know you just survey the situation find out what can you do to make an impact a positive manner that you can join in w c p or some other group that's working to try to say hey let's let's not that you talk about is the fact that our young people today not having the historical perspective feeling like they belong and we've lost a lot of things for instance you know what we live far above our means we don't circulate dollars in our own community you talk about oakland huge black community there's so much and for scorn on down there now if you move out you can't afford to move back in and we're seeing it happen in these areas and so people started moving now and  they were told if you move to any arc or tree or pittsburgh or are stockton that you can get a bigger house but what they fail to look at the whole picture and which was five days a week you've got a major community and so you have moved out of an area where you basically own your home and now you can't even afford it and they blame it on the tech industry they blame it on you know a lot of the you know the yuppies that have come in and they're able they're making as fast money but it comes back to history education being involved because that's what the a t p is about you started out by saying it's a volunteer organization people don't realize that not only that that's the first organization of people call when they feel their you know a black person has been ro but the thing is where were you what have you done and i think that that's important in fact one of the things is they talked about you know if they wanted to join the  but it's just we we missed the boat boat and even though we c p because you've got to be independent and self supporting we've got a national board of sixty four directors which is too large  but can you imagine all the civil rights warriors people who live in the south who are now unfortunate passing away with many of them who want to give their property in a in a c p and i've given a pop in the c p because we local we have a house that one our members gave to us ok so you know we that could have been you could have made you could have got your financial independence because we have to create jobs for ourselves right and whatever they really want to do that i mean the shifts that i see is it also seems that for black americans african americans whatever the title is now that they're wonder because what we're finding is that it's also a lazier generation not dependable your word is not your bond you're not reliable and the thing is it's the expectancy of you giving me something and you haven't earned it yeah i think what we forget has to be the attitude yes let me just ask you these two quick questions right quickly here i want to know from you what would you like the viewers to do now and it a for heard us talk about the  a c p what is the most important thing that you would tell our viewers today that they need to do i think that we have to unify as a race ok and  discriminate but i'm saying that our people african americans black folks really to get together right we need to re evaluate our situation and try to come to a common plan to work care facility right so you want to put your kids in the best situation that you can but you can't do it if you keep on fighting each other right why is that we can sit down as a community and that's what i would i want to see  that is a question that goes on and on here but here's the the one thing that i would like to close this dialogue with and we've got to have you back and we've really got you know to delve into  so much and this is such a big challenge but one of the things that i would like to just say you know to you i know that that's a road you know the road there's less traveled but we're appreciative of the work that you are doing and what you've done caregiver we know that we meaning you our generation we know that at the same time for the x  generations or the millenniums one of the things is that in a he also again has to have their focus on how do we reel these young people back in and get them carved up and so i would say to all of you that are listening you have got to get the memo you've got to recognize the value in you being able to vote and you need to see in the end a c p meetings you meet the third saturday the fortune to have a strong youth group we have some really good people who are trying to motivate these kids who are what's called the actual program ok and that's a program that these kids get a chance to demonstrate their talents whether academic activity is available because one thing about the end of a c p and people often realize that young people if you want to meet people who are running this country like the president right the vice president terry general dependent so you got to learn something that you don't have to be able to support yourself right so you better get ready for it because mom and dad not always be there that's true you better learn for yourself and that's what i'm trying to teach kids and depends yeah because one thing a lot of mistakes that my contemporaries made you know with my peers we don't want to kids have as hard as we had so we made it easy for them mistake right because they had no initiative you know this isn't for right so you know my mother slave but you lisa got to have some back and i agree with you and that that's the main thing that i think that we need to focus on and i think this that good no for a c and on is the fact just what you said you know what we have got to take back our power in raising our children and we really have to raise them and not baby them so i want to thank you so much for being here today and like i said we're definitely going to get you back in i'm following  really trying to work on a movement for us to get more of the millenniums and even people our generation back out to vote and recognize the value of that so thank you so much for being on the show my pleasure i appreciate it