new connection where you can tune in and grow i'm your host vicky thompson you may be familiar with new connection magazine for conscious living which has been enjoyed by readers in the pacific northwest for more than seventeen years now we're excited to bring new connection to life in your home a new connection we welcome authors practitioners and visionaries to share new ideas for alternative health spirituality and personal growth today i'd like to welcome to new connection dr steve stephen sero welcome to new connection cue for having a why we're so excited to have you here today because montra music is so moving in many ways and steve it sounds like you came to montreux music with quite a diverse background you energy healer you're a chiropractor you're the owner of riverfront wellness in salem but you've also done some very diverse things you worked with the grateful dead you worked with michael jackson the eagles and other well known celebrities and in addition to that which is enough already you've also been a sikh for fifteen years so how does this diversity relate to your music it's all come together it's been my experience that everything we do builds and or life experiences cumulatively add up and so all those experiences have brought us to making music ourself i started with  went for the yoga and i stayed for the music they were real the sikhs in the very involved with music and montra and i just love that and that rounded it out for me it made it not as austere and harsh and i really enjoyed that aspect of it and then through my car practic work and energy healing work as you mentioned different celebrities i was blessed to spend years observing and working as a healer with these people and standing on the side of stage backstage wherever watching the whole process and learning you know that comes from the heart how the creativity gets developed the precision the discipline the  experience of moving across our day of bringing people together bringing big groups of people together and having them experience so one this through the music and whether it's a monitor or a rock song you get a group group together and they're all turning into that same vibration and it's a very powerful i've had some of the highest one this experiences in iraq concert with these with these bands as same with you know with as with meditation so it has a very powerful and touching and combine that with my love of the monsters and music to want to put some of my own music together that's amazing so you are actually working with these musical groups and you were helping them with their spiritual path and growth as well yeah it often started as a physical thing someone had a correct pain but it turned into more than that working with yoga and meditation lifestyle counseling and love these people like you know the eagles for example they're not the seventy parties band from the seventy's that people think of glen for i is as disciplined as a professional athlete these people are focused discipline they practice  you know physical and mind body spirit type practices to be able to maintain the energy that they have in the keep doing what they're doing and the ones who are still doing it at least have you know found some other way to tap into the higher energy sources and i would never touch the instrument i think i was intimidated by most of these people i'd never touch an instrument so i moved to the pacific northwest and left the whole hollywood scene those money finally i want to try this i want to experience this myself but it's amazing that you came together as martyrs of sound and so the other half of martyrs of sound is sara wiseman and sara you're a channel and you also have a book coming out in the fall from the well in writing the divine right and so how did you come to this group well basically it's a miracle i think i wasn't a singer and i wasn't a channel and in the last few years everything just literally opened i opened in both those areas and it's sort of like chicken and the egg which came first the singer or the channel i don't really know but i we we met and for some reason it was very clear we were going to do music together even though we didn't have musical backgrounds and steve had started to work on montrose chil the first cd and we didn't have a singer and i said well you know i want to help you i can't sing all go into the studio and i'll put down some sort of some fake throwaway tracks just so steve could kind of keep pressing for what we had been looking for a singer and find a new one it's like i'll be your substitute voice and got into the studio and i was like oh what's this voice where did this arrive from and it's like wait a minute we've got we've got one and i think i didn't know you could do this and i didn't know when and you know i'm not the perfect singer but  it's been a steep learning curve and i learned how to do that but and then in terms of being so that was an opening and in terms of channeling that's just began to happen last year and i just i somehow i don't know if perhaps they're working with the music and the launcher and the meditation i opened in that way and became a full channel and claire clairvoyant clairaudient the whole i just grounds and it turns out that we have a really strong knack for writing music together which as as i've always been a writer i always knew i had that gift but for creating song structure and so just pretty nifty really just a   i don't sing i just play the music i just do it in my head i just use it quite silent meditation and you're the one who pushed it to take it to adding the mantras out loud to them of course  worked in the building next to where jason is for years and didn't even know that who he was or what he did we always just not a did each other hello and and now you know we have this fantastic person to work with so that's been a real universe for psychic work you go it's almost like you're going into different layers of consciousness so for psychic work maybe you go to this level for prayer you're going to this level not everyone's very comfortable  g to meditate on their own they say that their their mind goes crazy so in using music to create trance it just gives the mind an easier way to discover how that state works once you know it trance is you can get in really fast but at the beginning music just sort of takes you by the hand and i sure see you into it very easily so we have an example of the first song from your first album which is montra cello and let's let's take a listen to that and so we can hear what trance music sounds like  were hearing inside your soul as you were doing meditation exactly i would just hear the silently as i was playing the guitar and meditating to this sarah put the voice to it which blew me away because well and children people have used it for their kids to help their kids get to sleep just people for a relaxing long car drives just a little our minds are constantly going and they want something to focus on the always talk about the monkey mind always jumping around  then other states of mind which we have there going on all the time but they're being blocked out by the loudness of the thought process it's like turning down the volume on the thought process and opening up the where ness the awareness to the all the other the whole universe all oneness of it all and that's when you know hearing can start to happen when you give your intellectual mind i rest basically and let your soul come forward and sign which is so nice to do something that has so what are you singing there so you're saying  and in the west sometimes bowing down this kind of looked as a weakness but in the east is here here and on open up to when you bow down open to something you merge with it is opening up to that that big energy started cure time type of a monster which is basically call and response and so partly it is a great soldier for care time big groups will have these whole experiences together of going into bliss but basically the one person leaves the other person is the second voice so we'll just show you a little and we do a little do we do it our style so it's not ok not official says that it takes people six minutes to go into trance and i think i think that's true and especially for a large group but what we've noticed as we do this i mean i just went into trance i just went into a blissful state already and it was only a few seconds so it's very quick once you once you know it blisses you go in very fast for criticizing the muscle remembers the body gets trained with certain patterns in the nervous system and knows how to go back there quickly people to connect and miles davis i think said it best he said it with regards to music for it sounds good it is good so if it sounds good to you it's a good first music lesson i had sat down with the drummer and he said listen sixty's and that was just everywhere we went it was in our ears everywhere so we are very and steve also started as a drummer that was his main instrument so we are both a very rhythmically oriented and when i love to dance and we've noticed at our concerts that people want to dance for some reason that's sort of who we attract so we needed some it's great to be blissed out but sometimes the body needs to get moving and so we just thought let's do some fast songs and use much in my yoga class we do sometimes make up your own mantra everyone lies on the floor just makes noises and sounds and whatever comes to you but montrose can also be along the whole six scriptures fourteen hundred thirty pages it's considered one mantra there's no break between the words all the letters run together even so and so this particular this particular is a not from a non side which is about a twenty minute section of the sikh scriptures that we took just the first paragraph or two from and pumped up all this tribal percussion and use the electric guitar to make affect sounds and pretty organic we like to work with the original instruments but then we get into the studio and with modern technology just have fun with it and slow option turn it into rights you know it hasn't always been done before but you're doing that on your album uncoiled right you have now to the now yeah and not to the now so now to the net the lyrics are based on who the chorus is now to the now to the now to the now to the denominational so that can be an end in sanskrit or it can be an english one we use whatever we can find that's interesting traditionally a lot of mantras are done in foreign language sanskrit different dialects from india because it takes us out of thinking where the words i mean just get into the vibration of it and get lost and sometimes the words have too much of a story or too much baggage attached to it and it distracts us so it's nice to have you start singing the godhead govind and the second doesn't mean doesn't matter just like the five sing it would be beautiful but there's something also about the story too because we are minds operate with story now to the now it's like that's catchy it sounds like one of these rap type of things like something to the something you know us now to the know how and we started coming up with the the verses to it and we picked all these different spiritual  so we did the straight montreaux very mellow and then we did the montreux rock and we wanted to experiment some more so we thought well what about pop songs that are more accessible to people and then more so we decided to write kind of like three to five minute pop songs that is