form a panel and they're going to be reviewing different cases different issues concerning government conduct and or misconduct and rendering opinions i hold about whether or not the conduct is lawful and they're calling their panel a citizens oversight commission i'm a big fan of this idea and the reason we need something like this is because prosecutors won't you know force the law against public servants servants get away with whatever they do because prosecutors won't prosecute public servants and if a crime if prosecution is brought against a public servant they still have to go before a judge and our courts time after time let us go down matter here it's the reason we're here today is because the law is not that or the citizens oversight commission number one we'll just call it the panel whatever you wan know yours is your business in minneapolis the city council made a provision providing for the establishment of a review panel oversight commission run by citizens and then the city kept encroaching on their on the panels authority there's a big fuss if you will for among the members of the panel saying the government is exerting too much control over the panel we can't do what we wanted to do with the panel i encourage you to do this independently of government keep them totally out of it keep the press utterly unevolved in what you do as a panel this is just a panel it's not a branch of government and so you won't be issuing  but you also won't necessarily be the only one there could be ten panels in one city which i think is a great step because every panel let's say the six people on  as a proponent of setting up a own i would encourage that everybody that's going to set up a group get the advice and or protests a patient of a certified professional procedure in your structure and the rules that will form your charter my name's dave i want to set up this panel and i set up this panel and in the charter what i want to do to avoid anybody in future going oh dave got his panel over there i want to rule in my charge this as once we've heard fifty controversies davis is no longer associated with the panel as anything other than a consultant i won't make any decisions i won't write any of the rules and so it's not dave's panel i'm going to participate long enough to get it off the ground help with the administration under because of my knowledge of litigation and help the panel get its feet on the ground regarding what they should and should not do who they should allow input from to affect the panels procedure who i personally will never use the term common law grand jury or sovereign citizen or anti tax movement or patriot movement or patriot i am simply with my panel what i would seek to do is to review the conduct somebody complains of to the panel and compare that to criminal statutes to determine if the conduct constitutes a crime if not a crime you might be an abuse of discretion either one of those is a great reason to go to that police officers boss and say we won't be patrolled by this individual anymore you keep on at least out of our neighborhood and this is your last warning you get him out of that patrol car he's unfit he shouldn't have a gun look at this report and it's a report from the panel if you're going to allege this person's a criminal if they're a felon suddenly everyone in the country that learns of this condo they've just acquired the right to arrest this f and so very hard on my list of concerns because the last thing i want if mr somebody to be falsely arrested if the officer didn't commit a felony why would i want that officer arrested for being a family isn't that one of the things they do to us that we really take exception to a false arrest pulling us over without probable cause i don't want to put myself in those shoes and it's easy to be better than our prosecutors michael i didn't do anybody recognize that michael island was the washington state patrol and who patrolling the east side on swing shift will wait for women he thought were attractive to leave the cartel lounges and he wouldn't pull them over on the highway  contrived drunk driving stops meaning with no cars and physically molest them going so far as to manually penetrate them  would bust and he's sitting in king county jail for sixteen months and the reason i say this is i'm on the outside and if i'm a woman in washington state specifically but anywhere in the country really and i see this officer charged the way he was with felony counts and after sixteen months he pleads out to nothing more severe than a gross misdemeanor because total interference so that he won't have to report as a sex offender in the future and judge paul or robinson a woman let him plead guilty to gross misdemeanor years and for the sixteen months he was in prison he collected administrative pay check he was a cop on administrative leave in jail for sixteen months collecting a paycheck and was allowed to plead out to gross misdemeanors i can't because i'm not a woman i can't for the life of me imagine for one moment what goes through the mind or minds of women who witness that on the part of our courts to see that a slap on the wrist just do this public servant because of what he did and we're out here he won despite what he did not because of what he did the judge's mind is because what you did gross misdemeanor guilty plea and you got paid for sixteen months and we're out here saying despite what he did he got sixteen months of pay and was able to plead out to a gross misdemeanor ok so that's why we're here today as we know this now to go see exists but at the same time i'm not going to use my panel to put our signatures to a piece of paper that the the complainant comes to me with a complaint about misconduct i'm not going to put my signature on something that really doesn't deserve the gravity that comes along with the opinion that this is a felony this public service committed and he could be arrested i want legitimacy for my panel so i'm going to consider this perpetrator the be defended before or whatever you want to call the it's a tenant of due process when you're accused of anything you have the right to appear and defend and so i'm going to notify this defendant before i have a hearing if you have evidence to the contrary hidden here we're going to have a hearing about you know we're going to videotape it at least audio tape if it's going on the internet because our panel has a website and right now notice i'm going to put my web address is full disclosure leading up to the establishment of our first hearing when i finally get everything in place and i know what i'm going to do with my first hearing with my panel review panel for the citizens it's not my panel when i know what i'm going to do in this hearing is going to go down that's when i would inform the press here's everything we do here's what we call our documents here's why you will not call it an arrest warrant in the newspaper or we'll have to sue  because it's not an arrest warrant it's an opinion by citizens as to whether or not a crime has been committed it's the role of my panel so you might consider the posture position and rights of the accused it could lead to their arrest because you can arrest a felon with any necessary force case law from coast to coast