not stay everyone michelle gramberg here welcome to another episode of positive energy bringing enlightening television for your evolving soul do you believe in angels are you fascinated by angels and angel is a supernatural being found in various religions and mythologies angels are often depicted as benevolent celestial beings who act as intermediaries between heaven and humanity there are those who say that age old have a divine mission to protect and guide human beings let's find out more from my guest experts let's see what they have to say about angels so stay tuned because positive energy starts right now so i'm really happy to be here and excited to have my lovely panel of angel experts here on positive energy so here at lorain head rich and rita stroud and christine alexandria do know you're absolutely right they cited their eyes just light up angel crazy and all of that is for good reason and there's underlying reasons behind that that say something really interesting special about the times that we're living in so let's talk a little bit about angels then so what are angels really someone who how do you describe angels i would describe angels as helpers of god and they're beings of light and their sense were purpose and the purpose is always connected to the will of the divine and the universe i love that is of the divine will you anything to that really i think that's right on the money yeah and the other thing that i feel about angels is that they're like your best friend so whether you feel like you're all people so that it's not so lofty and i don't feel so far away in that particular way but speaking of that so do an angels exist they were live on our plane in the physical world plane or they just visit the physical world plane how does that  work we always hear about the angel realm the air jellicoe brown so do they travel between both i know what i kind of sense about that but when what do you say lorraine they travel they're a multi dimensional so they're getting quite capable of being very physical and you'll hear stories all over the world about angels that have come to visit you know and and that's what they do and so they they do have a place in the heavens but they're also equally able to you know travel around on earth and there are some amazing century oh yeah oh yeah south thousands of years even you can find it in religion symbols and religion and mythology there are those who say angels are more symbolic than not but there is value even in them as believe they're just a symbol ok what are they a symbol of goodness and benevolence and maybe what's what's possible in each of us would you agree yeah absolutely i think that sometimes what we forget is that angels are here to assist us on our own path so each time that we have a desire or a need or something that's calling us for a specific angel may come in to assist us with that so they all have kind of their own specialties but then just the way we're going to you know we have artists we have  jewels of travel please help me to have a safe journey and they come yeah most important thing is to is to invite them is to connect that's right to verbalize that it says those intentions so were angels ever human do you believe because sometimes some people do believe that some maybe we like to think of our loved ones as angels on the other side is that just something that brings comfort to us or is there some truth to that what do you think well it's a two edged sword so there are angels  have been here as human have walked the earth as human francis bacon my grandmother i love her i adore her both of them they're not in job like humans my perspective and which is what they've told me we are literally to de we are here to learn this is what life is it's about school we're here to learn we're here to heal our karma create dharma we're not and now there's always the caviar back me up here  experience is that angels have this ability to channel into a person although i don't think that they are human per se although like you said those two had their story their basis of the story is that they were human or walk the humans but i believe that they use their energy through open channels or people that are open to them and my first initiation to them was this one verb that just kept coming through with no boots on the ground we need boots on the ground they want people to be really is a partnership there's a very symbiotic relationship that we all i don't know that we recognize it or not so let's talk more about angel communication because i know each of you do this in your own way so loriene how how do angels appear to us or how do they communicate with us so there's a variety of ways but typically from you know that many experiences that i've had or others have shared they communicate through telepathy so you'll get a sensation or a feeling that you are not alone or you will be in a situation where you really need to understand what it is you need to do and you'll just get this and it's different than spirit guides it's a different feel it's a different energy it's definitely sent from the  divine and a lot of times they intervene in situations where we are in some sort of perilous situation and that's and that's the way they come through mostly they communicate i like to say through the divine will that flows through the universe and so we all have that a bill to get their imprints and sometimes some more direct but a lot of times it's it will be a feeling or a nation versus you know i really elongated detailed message i noted people watching would probably wait a minute so you know why can't he see them i know they're partly my explanation is that there again there are different energy vibration is there they're right there resonating at a different frequency and we're denser then that so but to speak to that this seeing angels because i thought people actually saw them like a physical person stand right before you i didn't realize you see them in your mind's eye i was like your imagination just shows up but when i started to do channeling it came connecting with different angels i noticed that archangel gabriel specifically for in my own experience presented himself first as male and second as without form at all he told me i prefer not to take the shape or form so he appears to me like a flash of lightning he looks like a bolt of lightning just as bright white light that  shimmers that's how i see gabriel but michael i see in full regalia with the wings and everything right so maybe they'll show up they'll match the way they appear to how that person will most be open the window within them that's  great way to describe it because we had a an incident years ago because like you said they will enter a human body to help you out during a situation so long story short we were coming home from a trip and we were pressed for time and angel popped into a red cap now had the angel popped into a person looking like a bomb not so much we're not going to take your help but they popped into somebody that we would accept but then when working with them with clients and students and intelligence so beyond us that they they it's all for the highest good anyway so whatever form they're choosing or if it's coming more into our horrid or into our mind's eye were in charge we know that they would you agree their mission is to guide and have come from first of all opening to angels and then they like i said before the show they're the tip of the iceberg they then opened up other things so as i would sit with an individual or a person i would begin to feel almost a spiritual support team coming around them including angels and guides the guards in my opinion could be someone you had a past life with that you had a specific type of relationship with or they come in to serve a specific purpose if you like in this particular moment in your life need to feel very brave and courageous you may have a spirit guide who is expert in brave encourages vibration kind of come into your field and they assist with you and then when you're done with that they may fade and go away or they might hang around so i've seen the ones who are with you all the time also but it's a little closer to earth yeah and so they they may have had you know physical life a lot of them have and some of them have not but typically they work a little bit more directly and often with us based on what we are doing at that moment in time so it's not even that we need to call them and by a purpose they're there waiting to show us something or teach their teachers in a different way angels serve the will of god more directly where  guides serve us with wisdom that helps us with more of an earthly lesson that we're trying to understand or embrace and so when they come in they will come in a different way  and i find them not dense as humans can be but they're a little bit more knowledgeable about earthly things there is a little bit more help how people are about that sort of there's a human connection exactly the kind of in the middle so if people want to connect with their spirit guides is it the same type of process what should they pay attention to what should they say what should they watch for that and less interesting there's a lot of ways that spirit guides and angels w connect with us certainly they'll come in directly through that infinite knowledge and wisdom from the divine they will also show up with feathers they will also show up with numbers they will show up with songs will magically appear i was going to my parents house years ago my aunt was on her deathbed on the way down i pass exit forty four a very strong angel number the next song that comes on take me home by cher have never heard that song on the radio well not  so i got to my parents i think you know aunt susie left they go yeah how do you know well i got the sign right so there's all sorts of ways the guys will be a little bit more humane because many of them have been here they know what it's like to be confused to be scared to be oh my gosh what am i doing i'm going crazy here they remember those nuances and they're like it's ok come along  so they don't they're not human but they're more human like correct they were there moral a double in that way and that way because you know like lorraine so many have been here already in human form they've become an ascended master so very much a human became so  light and love that they still get and what we have to go through so we need to pay attention to all of those very human ordinary seemingly monday in thing the things that repeat themselves signs  us interrupt you but this idea of spirit guides versus in joules this idea of a support team is a good one for just ordinary people to kind of hold and yeah it was a way to get trying to say is this my angel is this my god you're going to miss the point the point is you have a journey you know you can meditate and when i journey people typically i will take them to a different place to meet the angels then i would to have them meet spirit guides spirit guide says you know it's  an elevated place beyond our three dimensional reality but it's not the same places actually a different address you could say yeah it's almost like a dial like that you have to click into like on the radio  joe's a little higher up on the dial so let's give people let's inspire people right now connecting a little bit what inspirational you can either right now in this moment are you getting to give to our audience something a little bit inspiring for folks or maybe an inspiring message that you've received in the past they've passed along or maybe angels have a main message that comes through so often that you know it's an important one what i'd like to hear is a i mean i do a monthly class and the topic changes every month based on whatever scumming in but there does seem to be a recurring theme and that is that there is this feeling of almost like two forces coming together one going up and one going down in there's good and bad or there is highs and lows we're in a place of duality right so they're constantly telling me to remember that we are a bridge between heaven and earth that we are good that we are light and that we can remember to connect to this higher part of ourselves there the angelic roams to bring down that information and energy but then pull it down into the earth realms because this is where it's needed you know when the ground yourself and connect with mother earth or create this column of light as we like to call it you become a channel between heaven and earth so it's all about kind of unity consciousness bringing people together to feel like we're all related we're all one it's like the lakota indians would say  from the angels it's such a simple one they just wait for us to call them yeah yeah we all have that ability to connect with them so it's not some place you need to attain spiritually or any other way earn it it's not about earning it and i think that's why they're here is to help humans and to help humanity so they really cannot violate our free will and rights laws of that we must call them whether it's our soul crying out in a time of need or whether we just could really use some angelic support and that goes for spirit guides as well yes they're always with us but you know it's we need to take the time to listen but they're there for us to have it we all have a t so maybe the last thing that could block people would be that just their lack of knowing their lack of not feeling good enough for a caught up in just negative self talk is the only thing because they want to hear from us indeed that that is their purpose exactly and to pick it back absolutely we must ask but then the key is i tell my students shut up yourself you be you me simply be you because you deserve life as you desire not what the tabloids or social media or somebody says we have to do were be or act it's abundant and everything we all want our thing but our definition of our thing is so different because it's ours you know we need to go back to basics and that spirit guides always remind us that they are unconditional love they're already in that state and they can if they see the next president their main message certainly is to love ourselves and attempt to love each other and conditionally we really are ok so if my aunt may interject we have made up the term unconditional love because as humans we've made love and there's no any other kind of like so we've made love so conditional i love you much i did take the trash out i just made a conditional i love you be careful i that i love you guys thank you a little you so you all do wonderful work in the world let's have you talk a little bit about the work that you're currently doing the world with larry tell us about what you do i'm part of the modern mystery school i am an international instructor so i get to travel worldwide and i'm also local i mean brooke and i also teach in bloomingdale new jersey courses on angels spirit guides and really my goal is to empower people and you know giving them practical tools to access every part of themselves so they can really know themselves because they know yourself is to really love yourself yeah and i think a lot of people  are a little bit disconnected from the inner and so what i do is i help people to find that through meditation alternative healing and i metaphysical classes and i've been doing it for oh my goodness a long time but i woke up about ten years ago to my mystical side the angels were the beginning and since then so many things have opened for me that i began to teach classes basically just again to help people turn on their own superpowers so to speak like recognize that you do have a connection to something in ments and beautiful and that is who we are so close that i teach connect people with the gelug realms with each other we do a lot of things with moon life to create a space which is called just breathe and sentiments and for others to come who are just noticing their gifts who want to exercise them or to put on their own classes and you know start seeing clients it's a space for them to find the left finally do it and i encourage people to reach out in that way i feel i'm a platform for others to launch their own gifts but also it's just a lot of the happiest thing to me is to see another person open up and grow become comfortable with themselves blossom flower and then just go love inspiring and empowering people to be you know to go back to very much what you both do go back to their absence remember remember why why do i want to do this why am i motivated and i help them do that through client work through school and i have an authorization course that comes out once a year because it's an eight month online course starting my own history school believe it or not i have written how many books three books now working on  all oracle cards coming out so that all these different avenues because the platform keeps growing and growing we have a very sacred community of all places on facebook and it's crazy but it is so it's it's an amazing group and it's this community just as much as you said readers to witness somebody coming out of their cook yeah and seeing them spread their wings and grow i really get g that's my gift but i love to share what i know that you're doing wonderful work anyway because i follow you and we've known each other for a while i know they know you guys are doing such wonderful work and we're all i know that we're all part of the same collective energy that's attempting to move things forward on the planet and we're hopeful for all the forces that were to us and all of that so please continue to do the work that you're doing the world continue to share it i hope that people will reach out to you so  we're wrapping up another in lightning show my message today is about choosing hope over fear please remember that you're not alone there are benevolent forces all around you hope is light in the darkness they hope for my friends thank you monday morning flowers for the beautiful floral arrangement thank you for watching and join me next time on positive energy