ain't no more  currency but that's interesting because we covered the week's legislation on medical help medical help everybody says happy cannabis marijuana not medical medical medicine and a debacle with maybe  have to have to hear in a few times dennis mayer we haven't seen him yet brooke he just saluted so that's him right there and we've got our panel here today we're going to talk about currency and i do hope that we cover some things that helps everyone out here and in the people watching especially will be online video archives on line now so you can watch us twenty four seventh's so that's really good but anyway our panel and we have behind me every allen and ok the american open currency standard has been we're private meant that works with community sovereign nations states to do everything from creating alternative barter currencies some some questions i don't know anything about tell me what we should know what's the me know what are coming up what do you think we need to be aware of i mean we're talking about indian nations coming on currencies we're talking about five thousand cities right now made from him so when we go from there gifts maybe oh well you know this man is a resilient animal for being you know we're resilient beings and and when survival is threatened will finally turn and it means of surviving and that's what's happening again you know back during the great depression there were an estimated three thousand communities that created their own currencies unfortunately the only model they had to emulate was paper money and so they did the only thing they knew which was to print their own local paper money the problem back then was that when the economy started to recover and the dollar strengthened and up people started trading in accepting dollars again u s currency then those who were left holding the community currencies the paper of the local paper was they were they were left holding the bag especially there was anything they could do with those so people have wised up since then and now a lot more communities where there are still some that trade similar local currencies you know locally accepted him and agreed to coupons or community currencies whatever you want to call them there are those who have wised up and it started coming to us to are no pure copper pure silver pure gold medallions that they'll use as private instruments of private wealth protection and then be in their private property they can select to choose to trade those with others for the things they need in their community should things get really bad and in some places they're already trading them you know there are a number of dispensaries that are around they're looking to trade for these things there are a lot of communities in fact i just heard recently that some communities in northern colorado are accepting about twice the face value because because the merchants there just want to you know hedge against the last you know a you know the deflation of the u s currency jihadist like taxes on it or are taxes involved at all i'm having trouble hearing you i think your question has something to do with tax implications on exchanges and trading yeah yeah yeah and as you know that's the individual i'm not a tax lawyer so it's not my place to give anybody tax advice but but i would recommend each individual take responsibility for their own situation and determine for themselves what liabilities they had if they feel they have some in the in the tax arena you know if i trade my neighbor my dirt bike because i want his lawn or his writing more i may or may not enjoy an appreciation in value there and i may or may not report that that's my you know that's my prerogative and i know that that goes on every day all over the world so i would say you know if a person's private well however they in whatever form  that you know it's their prerogative to act in their own best interest in their and you know according to their own conscience as to how they handle those matters they have  make taxable trade when you something the government wants surface area you know that i'm sure they do i'm sure they would want to preserve any action there there their checkbooks pretty far into the red at this point so they're looking to find any kind of pennies they can under the sofa cushions but i think each individual you know according to the tax law the tax code in the us i think each individual is expected to voluntarily pay a tax on any transaction that that they enjoy a capital gain from so if you trade your neighbor a chicken for or you know a gallon or two of milk or something of that nature or go towards something then you're expected to understand the value of those stuff there on the honor system they have to report it only as they feel they need to what do you think why do you think i make money on this do  right out of the temple while we're at it in the early days of the u s we actually didn't have that you know the the us government only in the very earliest days only minted the larger denominations in corn that would be traded between our government and foreign governments for the settlements for settlements of debts and hard and it was local private you know but makers and what have you that would make you know smaller denominations for trade between individuals and merchants and local residents so you know that's been going on for ages man is you know pretty resourceful and we americans are pretty entrepreneurial so there have been plenty of instances where we've we've i found out doing some research recently that one of the first tokens pieces that were mentioned here in the state of texas were saloon tokens a lot of saloons would offer change in greater amount to what you were owed if you would accept it in their local token and that would force you to come back into the business and give them more business so a number of our communities you know the businesses in the communities  it's been done in all different forms for ages man is always bordered traded and it was meant as modern currency what's that what is the best modern currency a quarter of oil  economic collapse and then we're going to get going here we're only about five minutes left so give us a quick explanation and let me hear what your question and the previous question that was directed to me i think anything of value that you know will hold its value that is you know is protected well that is that want to tear your rate you know you can hold on to grains or milk or things like that you know water doesn't deteriorate you know hard assets like a seed things like that are also going to be going to serve as a commodity when the dollar does eventually collapse i think there will be a number of sources of barter value but i would recommend that you know people that are worried about the eventual economic collapse start preparing and having the things that they need secure their wealth in other forms besides paper money and then they'll be able to determine who around them in their local community has the things they need they'll audit will instantly become willing to barter because they'll need to things that you have that you provide which will be different probably than what they have and so we'll have to support each other but yeah there's a lot that can be done and i'm glad you guys are doing so much to work to get the word out make people aware and  dakota and a few years ago i designed the half ounce silver legalize it piece and then this last year i guess two years ago now i would have been designed the  colorado and california so yeah i have a lot of friends in the community and while i'm not a user myself i don't have a prescription for any for any  use i do i do i am a strong proponent of legalization i would say i'm a strong proponent for complete legalization of all drugs i think criminalization has only served to add to the national debt and i have a lot of other reasons too i think the first thing i'm going to do when it's legalized is buy a hundred acres and grow a lot of industrial hemp i predict that sounds good and what i want to do is bring up one couple last questions we're almost finished here on this segment so and then there's no room in there and then so that helps and then so i'll just you know check it out open mike afternoon and if you want good music well we've got good music if you that might be crossed now some small portions of the law but i was looking on it based upon section twenty five point one age three and basically it says the possession of marijuana shall not result in the fourth which are a real property unless the marijuana is possessed for commercial purposes that are unlawful under washington state law now if you really read that it didn't say state of washington which is the under the constitution of eighty nine of the said washington state what that means to me is there cannot be according to them the shiv if it is passed for a two year period of time any seizure of any commercial property because it would be against the there's no there's reserve is that ninety nine years managing our money supply quite contrary to what the pounding bothered dictated in section eight so i think it's time to give ben bernanke a section eight discharge the twenty ninth and thirtieth groups said ok and you also can get a hold of me at area code two five three two nine eight seven four six one and i'm doing two or three tours for day why we got to be in city website behind us like you're right here you can see it i recommend we're going to an open mike friday's yeah the city right across from me i think it's the what's the name of the store right now it's the only channel seventy today and help us get back to us we need input we need people to also want to be on t v but get a hold of me even bookstores baxter's at the not just the bean city going to be in city coffee making place bets tim is the mayor of it we call that but anyway  well it's only lifeline i think it's something that i need to know more about because i think it's a circumstance historically where if we can truly that's adopting to a new economy for doing things like that legislative breakth that's a breakthrough to get state county city federal legislation to realize that we the people have to revive it's like what's been going on in this country we need to get our points across to the people that have to legislate laws medical marijuana laws fits into something i think should stay here a key right now because the mormon people are very noble people very powerful historical support of our country's history  like a set of very unique and very very noble people and we have a party here today that's going to tell us a little bit about his circumstances other people's is a mormon church going to adopt he's going to do it meaning is millions of people to visualize landscapes and so on you tube we can do a lot with changing the light matrix we have a circumstance though that i want to bring up in this program today with gerber from the district pirate radio ninety three point seven during  we hope to maybe be working creating in the northwest here open mike afternoons here at work or business centers and coffee shops and you know clinics access points i mean if you know that that's what they call a ballot access points out of the camelot group we've on what's going on with the medical marijuana but when we have a circumstance where members of a community of highly respected community the mormon community are in a circumstance where family members of been separated from the because of their medical marijuana issue you know i think it's time that we bring up this subject i know it's going to leak into the mainstream media at some point in time especially nanny mommy who's legislating or so i say  i'm not going to use that word legislating i don't know where he fits in with this but i know that here he is a mormon faith and is he paying attention to these issues these are issues to deal with campaigning in the elections coming up what his circumstance from that perspective and in the means by which we go from here i'm going to listen to what i hear from her and thank you for being here you guys and that's her on the right and that's dennis i've always been a fan of his and i'm looking forward to seeing what we can bring about here with media media with a chance to get things communicated like the hip legislation communicating hamp legislation throughout the state educating around our city councils educating our county councils thirty eight counties in washington state i think there's a lot to do t v might help but anyway go ahead i'm going to bring up kurt can you tell us a little bit about what happened why do we start where do we  scriptures and what not but what we have right now is a conflict between the culture of the church which is essentially is it an authoritarian sort of society these are the most imagine this people you'll ever meet if the bishop buys one particular type of t v you can count on a good thirty or forty percent award buying a similar t v is because he's the bishop but what happened to me was my family was interfered with for my partaking of cannabis for medical reasons this happened twice happened and i would happen in washington and the real big issue is that the procedures provided for in scripture  namely doctrine and covenants are completely ignored by my church leaders and the reason we have those is to protect our most vulnerable people from those with the most authority being bishops and stake presidents it's similar to our government they're supposed to be a system of checks and balances but the system of checks and balances has broken down and not just in the church but also in the country and this is a very dangerous time in our history for this to be happening because if the mormon church truly is orders from the u n from nato then you have to wonder about the culture the character of the people in the church are they going to be beholden to their scripture to their lord their god their savior are they going to go along with the precepts of men and the men that are running the show right now are not american certainly not christian they don't behave in a manner consistent that's christ and when i see people like mitt romney running for president knowing full well that he's from a culture that esteem is authority over truths i'm afraid i just have to stand up and say no no no no no this is not the way it is and furthermore anybody who purports to represent my authority in my opinion had better reflect in himself those same qualities and opinions it's two competing systems the issue is that no one wants to recognize his own culpability in the destruction of families because if people go ahead and recognize their own fault with regard to this what does that mean about them are they no longer good people well your actions actually define who you are and this is the problem with mormons because they cannot deal with the thought that they might be wrong this must be god's one true church therefore the people running the show must be correct infallible blow that goes around there's a lot of that going around so what happened to me twice was my bishop directly advise my wife to leave me because of medical marijuana now medical marijuana was the reason that he had my wife leave but it was not the excuse the first time the excuse was court not graffiti my wife had seen you know a couple of pages that i had been to on the internet and called my bishop and my bishop rather than try to find out more and perhaps talk to me see if i had a problem what he did was he asked my wife are you scared this is manipulation one does not go from are you sad to are you scared for no reason checking out pornography on the internet might have made my wife mad but it certainly would not a major scare but this is the excuse they used to advise my wife to leave that somehow viewing pornography makes me dangerous which accomplished his goal of separating me from my family over to medical marijuana now this is happened twice that in order to get my children back i'm going to have to send my to prison over this but she is essentially choose me of pulling a gun on her and i just don't know how to deal with that it will be what is the correct answer when gone through all of the proper channels trammels in the church to get my family back and what not but those channels actually refused me and i'm not the only person who's in this situation and medical marijuana is not the only issue involved one of my dearest friends on the planet actually had a stake president who is above a bishop and the man is also an attorney represents his wife against him in a divorce proceeding and the man had not only was it inappropriate for him to represent one of his flock against another but all the circumstances surrounding that incident were also fraudulent and even though all of this is documented you can go to court websites and look at the documentation yourself when you tell salt lake about it they don't want to hear about it again it's referring to the authority what they want to preserve for themselves is the idea that bishops do not make mistakes state presidents do not make mistakes and most of all they don't do things on purpose when in fact  spaced twelve point type and tried to get it before the leaders of my church but the accuracy has been set up for that from happening the only time i ever actually see a leadership person actually get in trouble is when there's a case of pedophilia so when a catholic priest exactly and i don't know about you guys but i don't want to have to wait until my kids are molested to get some action out of my leaders and  mormon church's stance on medical marijuana believe me they're there right now they're hoping to slow it down not right now not during elections but it's now here we're going to be broadcasting this issue it's a key one and you have been a circumstantial event in that circumstance that is what's happened that circumstance is something that i know is a bigger issue than we realize you have one or the mormon church really has to deal with it and contend with it and maybe you can help them on not do they can they see it that way it's a myth it's a thing where we are kept to contribute to something that has to be better understood but how do we all do that i mean we're  which is not nearly so much medical marijuana as it is just a disavowal of law i mean are we a people who use in the rule of law we had to get a constitutional amendment to outlaw alcohol for pete's sake because people understood back then that we have a god given right to get sauced well if we're going to have laws not just social laws especially religious laws and this is a religious organization we're talking about if you're going to call yourself a religion you have to hold fast to those things that are in your own canon the thing that scares mormons is they have been ignoring their own canon for so many decades that the only way to correct a lot of the problems that have happened is to excommunicate former bishops current bishops former state presidents current state presidents members of your local area seventy's even apostles must  excommunicated because the level of crime that this rises to is so vast so amazingly vast and again it's this is god's one true church on this earth why are there so few mormons well the reason there are so few mormons is because no one wants to go to church with these people they make it work to go to church it's almost you know almost sucks the spiritual life out of a person the good tricks with these people they don't really care for one another they care for authority they have a checklist it is a checklist society these are the most bigoted people on the face of the planet not against any creed or color or custom they are bigoted against each other and if you don't measure up on the checklist then your second third or fourth class citizen this is what has to change and nobody wants to examine himself and the fact that he might be wrong about something so deeply held that he has to make such a dramatic rm it yet but there was somebody did say that the word cannabis or have one of those was in the in the constitution i have also heard but haven't been able to look at i don't have a search so i'd have to read a search  category my computer so i'd have to actually read the entire constitution and the one in arkansas has that same note in it somebody also said that that was as well in texas so my question and cannabis so if it was in the state constitution as a product in the state then isn't there a conflict of what your bishop actually has been saying because it was at that point in the past and then if it was then outlawed in utah as you're probably referring to just right after the other laws then would that be abiding by the the national or washington d c rules rather than their own church rules so have you been able to look at the state constitution of utah to see if there's any conformity with the rest of the states in that fashion i have not studied utah as constitution what i do know about the laws in utah though there's a law on the books to code into the commercial code and forget the citation but i can find it for you but it essentially allows a judge to do anything he wants to anybody who's in jail and there's one  person a friend of mine paul pantalone an inventor who used to live outside of salt lake city i believe in all i do and i've been to his home and not long after a visited him he was actually arrested for nothing he wasn't charged with anything but he was kept in custody for his own protection and this judge royal something or other in salt lake city actually had him medicated and medicated what well some sort of anti depressant and apparently more than one and this i get from paul pant on himself so the judge is the most on medical doctor no the judge this is what the law to paraphrase i have looked at this particular case what it says is that  a judge can't be held responsible or liable for essentially doing anything including malicious prosecution slander suit yes sensually he can get away with anything  but i suspect most states have a similar lots of that but i tell you what if you talk being go and of you you tards i mean pardon me mormons has a law like that on the books what does that really reflect about the people of utah i think most states did have a law but you're a relief there to take the bond from the judge or the insurance company do not ever ever retaliate against the judge  marijuana in other states away ok legal and there's a large mormon population say colorado or washington or montana there are  interfere can he can he go to the guys wipe it say leave him because he's smoking weed whatever that hour and do what they do that whatever happens when the bishop story is closed you have no control over whether then why not ask the mormon church to make a definitive statement to be issued to all their stakes in states where it's illegal or veteran and mormons to smoke president in two thousand and eight they did mention he was born in mexico but failed to mention that he wasn't eligible to run for president that my friends is treason there's no way around it but it can all fifteen of those guys have to be removed the lord's anointed are evil brothers and sisters let's get rid of them let's get real leadership there was no into it with b p oil in the gulf  lives tobacco is a lot of it and you can't pin me on something like that when it's not true because we're the society know that people are people literally no realizing in life that we want to live life medically comfortably and it has nothing to do with recreational party life and now you have over half the population were baby boomers now those circumstances are what do we do we need to go forward with the people as a common law come this is a good people convening as a congress to be able to realize that what we're trying to do is proceed as a people were standing and on the record that's also what these t v programs are all about any one last thing before we get to drink last yes i would like to say that the church of jesus christ of latter day saints is god's one true church on this planet however it has been infiltrated and taken over by members of the church of somebody else sycophantic traitors and we mormons meet twice a year we'll be meeting again in april and we confirm our leaders now i would like everyone who's watching this show to talk to everybody you know who is mormon and ask him if he my spirituality and religion by ingesting the plaza god said we were supposed to have in their bibles and exist for the healing of forty one diseases and probably others they don't know about earth but anyway no s o b should ever stand in the way of that but they are so i'm a pioneer in talking total legalization of marijuana in all fifty states and all over the country because it's here for the healing of the nations and the eagle of the us he'll turn his beak toward olive branch in a way from the areas of war and we become one union army all over the planet and one world the mormon community that i think you have to also for keeping up the good work thank you willie well let's get these programs on the road to kabul and then james ross let's get you what's what are we going to deal speaking out of the homeless ad but here in the king county area james in the last statement what do we need to go forward things like you see now with what's going on i don't like it at the up it's on the front page of the economic watching jersey shore and the car dashing and and they're like well you know that's not us why are you doing this t why are you doing the thing andrew oh my god  i have a very close personal relationship with the ca we were approached by about ten different producers who wanted to do some type of reality show and we turned down every single one of them because it was evident to me that they had some type of agenda and they either wanted to create artificial