basin ships at eight hundred miles down the columbia river through our back yard to be loaded onto cargo level ships and can shipped to asia mostly china and india and there's so many compelling we've come to a point in the road where we can go back to the nineteenth century or move ahead there's new proposals popping up all the time that with your help we can win this fight share this video with your friends and visit o i like to tell people you know we've been around here for a long time and our family obviously is been here in this area for longer than people can remember and  and so it's always interesting for me to have the opportunity to give these kinds of give these kinds of tonics and to to sort of introduce a little piece of our history and ourselves to to the people who are here but one thing that i didn't have the chance to talk about earlier was the salmon you know the impact that that had on tribal peoples in this area was i think really can't be over stated and as i mentioned earlier the people here depended on on the salmon for for just for the diet but there was as you mentioned earlier a spiritual relationship between  the the construction of grand coulee dam and some of the effects that that had on native people and they were talking about the ceremony of tears that happened at kettle falls as the water was coming up and it was very moving for me as a native person to see those photographs and to see the people lined up along along that embankment and and some of them and they had their arms out and like sort of like bidding farewell to a friend kind of thing i was very very emotional to to see those photographs and to imagine what that must have been like for them and here we are all these years later and that was years before i decades before i was born and yet i think somewhere in my own heart i do feel that impact as well there's it's like there's a piece there's a piece of the culture that's missing from what we do here and as i mentioned earlier down by spokane house you know how we travel to the different places i'm gathering the different kinds of foods and that's something that my family still does and we still go on and we still gather those foods and still collect those things and that's the one piece that's missing for of my heart that's missing you know from not from not having that i suppose i could go to the coast or could go someplace else but it really wouldn't be the same and so in my own mind sometimes i imagine what that would be like for the for the salmon to come back up this river and i it's hard to put to put words on what that would feel like to see them to see them coming up coming up the river again and i can only imagine how wonderful that be and how emotional that would be to see that relationship restored not just with the river or with the people and the animals and and all the creations that are here on  would be a dream come true soul what you want him your own and the but i do want to point this out folks this movement and tonight's of that was not covered by corporate media at all right but i do want to give a big shout out to any of you who are watching me right now let's just acknowledge you're watching it on people's media wherever it is that you're watching me right now some unpaid volunteer took the time to record it thank you some unpaid volunteer took the time to upload this to create the infrastructure for you to watch it so we support people's media yes to the local cable access program that this is going to be played on and also can we get a big shot up to your community radio station it is a people's own people's operated radio station so the point i'm making is this ma'am let's build alternative people's media so that we can talk to each other and let's have those kind of conversations and let's build political power that is serious that takes ourselves seriously because we have to because a just world is at stake and frankly not only a peaceful and just world but we know that the ecology that we depend upon for life itself is in the balance so let's do our work joyously but let's also be serious about it piece what the horse see it it aptly demonstrates exactly what we're trying to show you my name's everett lewis from the back country horsemen of washington the trail dusters chapter and certain incidents have led up to the need for a little bit more information about meeting of bicycles and hikers and horses three basic steps when meeting are to hail or say hello how are you and the biker or hiker or horse person will then say hello how are you we're are you coming from today well we're down from dish pan gap today and we're on our way out we've been up there for a week and a half and then the person on the horse would suggest would you please just move a step a little bit off the trail to the low side of the trail because we know a horse is going to spook away from perceived danger and then they keep talking while they're passing so that the horse stays relaxed recognizing that verbal communication you do the same see you later given the increased hiker mountain bike or horse activity it is helpful to have a good understanding of what the horse sees this became apparent when my wife and i were returning home after a ride her horse was slowly gliding object off her left rear her horse spun to get a better look my wife landed on the gravel road when knocked out of her not seriously hurt the horse a preamble will startle and perhaps bolt in order to flee from perceived danger thus some etiquette is suggested safe for meeting and passing procedures first vocalize say hello importantly either party speak up a horse recognizes verbal exchange cyclists and hikers should then move to the lower side of the trail as a horse when spoked will move away from perceived danger in other words we don't want the horse and rider going over the cliff we would rather have the hiker or biker standing there and the horse if anything spoke up it is our hope that this short video will illustrate these practices and raise awareness between users to prevent accidents and injury i am linda i'm running a trail runner and mountain biker and i've been on a lot of trails where i've come across the horse horsemen or horses and i know that you know if want to make the horse aware that you are there and you know stop say something to the horse and or the writer and let them go by stop and get off the trail the easier for me to stop and you know i'm not going to get scared so just let the horse know you're there and let him go by my name's bobby elliot and i am a member of trail dusters chapter back country horsemen and i have horses and i also hike and even when you're in the back country and away from most people you meet somebody coming down the trail hikers me bikers hikers meet horse people and vice versa when you meet somebody on a horse you want to make some sort of noise you want to say hello i'm here i don't know where you are you may want to get off the trail and if you do get of the trail make sure that you're on the downhill side if the horse spooks it'll spook pill and not down years then years in the woods both on horseback and afoot in some pretty rugged places steep slopes rocky for other hikers and cetera you know what a scramble is you'll hit you'll find horses up there too so aware come across somebody on a horse make sure you know once again make sure that you know that that they know that you're there and we'll go from there my name is jennifer and this is jack i've been writing for assistance i was a little girl i've had many different experiences with hikers and bikers says the key thing to remember is that the horse will see the hiker and the biker before the biker will see the horse and rider they can sense things far off and they have extremely very good vision and hearing so the key is to make sure that you make yourself aware that you are there in plenty of time and the writer may as well the writer may say we're down here horse and rider this way so that is the biggest key fact right there is that we really need to be sure that th that the biker is aware that the horse may spook when the biker or hiker comes into it and to the vision no i'd like to have a rich girl or three step up riches a retired veterinarian in the back country horsemen and he's going to give us a bit of background on why the horse does what it does so here's a bridge till i'm rich guthrie i'm  retired veterinarian member of trailed us or chapter about country horsemen to washington let me introduce you to some information about horses that all be helpful in developing your understanding of how to interact with them on the trail you will interact on the trail with horses if you use horses trails horses are prey animals a pretty animal is an animal who is in its natural environment used as food by predator animals horses are prey animals they have for thousands of years been running away from predators especially the large cats the horse evolved in open areas deserts steps prairie's and the open areas made the sight of the animal the first way of being able to evaluate or determine the threat of a predator in their environment so horses can see very well horses have the largest eyes of any land mammal these eyes are set on each side of the head and the eye each eye can see independent really of the other a different image horse see something threatening with one eye it will immediately turn its head and focus both eyes on that object giving it by not kill or in depth sight of the perceived threat the horse can see in the a very large area because of this lateral positioning of the eye is the only places they can see is for a small cone about three or four feet and fredricka in front of the face and for an area about ten degrees wide behind them that goes off to infinity and of course the horse by turning its head can eliminate that blind spot quite readily to when the horse sees something threatening moving the horse instinctively will run the distance of the lions charge and turn around to see what threaded it horses that stopped to consider whether that really was a lion or not became food and horses that ran further than the lions charge have run into another lie and or become too exhausted to escape another predator so tight is very important hearing is important too that is the kind of the second thing that the horses use to evaluate the presence of predators in their environment the horse's ears well the hearing of the horse is they can hear higher sounds than we can they can hear lower pitch sounds than we can they can hear softer sounds and we can each ear can rotate at one hundred eighty degrees and they can rotate independent of each other and you can often tell more about where the horse is attention is by which way that year is pointing then by where their eyes are smell is very good in horses but probably doesn't apply to today's discussion salt what frightens a horse and what reassures a horse a predator sized object moving predator speed is the scariest stumps or hikers with backpacks that are relatively low slow moving or stationary can be frightening for horses if they look approximately the size and shape of a p usually these objects don't cause as much fright as the things that are moving rapidly the most reassuring thing the horse is human speech are domestic horses are used to hearing people talk horses are very intelligent animals they quickly adapt to everything in their environment that is non threatening and one of the most non threatening things is is human speech and it doesn't matter what the human is saying they can be talking about the way other or their trail conditions or house or they are it doesn't make any difference to the horse as long as that conversation continues periods of silence can bring the threat of this unfamiliar object back and so i would encourage trail users bikers and hikers to continue the conversation the horse rider usually will continue to this debate even upon their experience will usually try to continue the conversation but do engage with them in conversation until the horse is safely past you or you are safely past the horse now horses are  big strong animals and in this scary situation where they're liable to whirl and flee that can be very dangerous for the writer and very dangerous for anything else in the vicinity they also if cornered will not hesitate to strike or kick i had a young friend that lived down the road from us who was riding his horse pony down the street one day and some motorbike writers thought it would be fun to buzz the pony and skerrick well this pony had a good experience with bikes and didn't wasn't afraid of them at all but the pony had a temper and when the second bike rider went by buzzing the pony world and kicked at him and threw him and the bike into the ditch so be aware that you may have some other problems with with horses they they can react in anger as well as in fear the horse is a wonderful large very easily trained animal but i would encourage you to use as much caution as possible in presenting yourself to the horse thank you let me tell you a little more about how horses react to scary sounds or sights horses can be accommodated to almost anything if it is repeated enough times especially if it's repeated fairly frequently and in such as a gunshot horses have become well adapted to fighting in wars and the way that it is done is by repeating the scary stimulus enough time so that it's not scary anymore and this usually involves thirty to one hundred repetitions of whatever it is that you're wanting to desensitize the horse to however there is another phenomenon and that's the horse can become sensitized to something scary if it happens less than thirty times difficultly a one to ten times of being run into by a bicycle for its as could make the horse so paranoid of bicycles that it will never allow one with it sight unless the horse then is conditioned by having a bike rider for instance appear in the horses situation where it cannot escape and doing that repeatedly in a non threatening manner or probably once the horse is sensitize than in the order of a hundred dog hundred fifty times it's our hope that today we have given you some basics for safe passing and meeting horses mountain bikes and hikers and i think the most important thing is to vocalize hello how are you how's your day going and keep vocalizing until the passing has completed because the horse can recognize the voice between people and it relaxes them a lot and takes the fear of a silent predator away but just really appreciate all the help and hope that this will give all the multiple user groups some good solid basics for safe and join many of the outdoors thanks a lot i guess in closing just remember that this isn't a practice run where you always go around once so have a good time a lots of fun and joy the outdoors thanks a lot