ok i'm going to talk directly to someone out there hoping they're watching i can't tell if you are but if you are we've been having a lot of fun together and hang out for a while actually for like two hundred eighty hours and  you know i know that's only like ten or twelve or thirteen days but carol i think we need to take a break basically unless you can offer something new like a new chapter to this like story of me and you i think i've just got to press pause thank you very dull jamie that was there was very brave of you to say because you know girl doesn't take rejection kindly no he does it too much but two hundred eighty hours i that was one of my favorite things i've played ever so if it's so good why are you working the way that you do every single thing that was in the game where you'd done done done ok the short version of the story is i'm playing a new game plus mode because i wanted to because i'm crazy because you're insane  insane and i didn't want i didn't for some reason i can't remember why now but i just need to get all the stuff and get the highest level but now i'm like oh i wanted to change the way the outcome of the world happened no spoilers but if when you finish the game it kind of can change the way this is sure so i want to do some different choices but it's just going to long and fall out coming out so this is a big year for big games and i gotta say i'm definitely feeling that you know i burned out you know before i even had a hundred hours of carol but i really like the game too i thought it was a really good game but it was just too much of a good thing and keeping in mind that there was a bunch of other really big games coming down the pike i i needed to just call it quits on that thing there's just so much other so well let's talk about video games that we are playing currently do it i've pressed mode on which are but what are you playing brad i think probably the biggest thing that i played recently speaking of like big open world games is mad max which just came out oh yeah yeah yeah i've heard mixed things about that what do you what do you think i really really like it a lot i think the game is really misunderstood and i think it's a real unlike a video game i think it has the poor fortune to come out any year that's already really crowded with large open world games and i think it had the extremely poor fortune to come out on the same day as metal gear solid five oh yeah really bad timing on the part of p r that was terrible at the worst possible launch date but everybody at my site was playing metal gear and i figured you know i'm gonna go the other way i'm going to get some diverse coverage for this i don't play mad max instead and i got to say i really really like it a lot ok i mean i i hear that my main thing that i don't i'm afraid of is that the battle mechanics the fighting mechanics are that batman style slash mortars and they are i think i'm just tired of that fighting style so that is it ok i think it's pretty good it is very simplified so if you get tired of managing all those gadgets in both batman and more i felt like they were very busy you had like you know more head to the arrows in the knives and you could teleport in that stuff and that man had like thirty five thousand gadgets or whatever so if you felt like it was a lot to manage then that has really stripped back it's very simple everything is basically two buttons and he gets a shotgun and some knives but it's all just like the same kind of like rhythmic combo it almost plays itself and it's not bad at all because guys are going to go down but yeah yeah my boss is really streamlined i really like that streamlined i think it's a positive i don't mean it as a negative it's really good and i think the open world really works in a game like this because when max gets to the wasteland it just this giant desert but actually it's the bottom of an ocean that used to be there it's not there anymore so it's like there's always a wreck ships that sank when the water goes down it's really cool because there's all these ships that become like the hideouts of the bad guys and you see all these different formations on the bottom of the world it's so beautiful because even though the whole thing is a desert there's parts of the desert that are very visually distinct they can go up north and there's like the trash heap everything's on fire area you go south and it's kind of like brownish and it's really like blood kicking up over to one side it's like a yellow traditional like you know beach dunes kind of thing so even though it's all desert it looks different and you know where you are and i feel like when i watch the video clips it does feel stunning and powerful like especially the driving seems amazing and i feel like i would buy it just for that because the car combat which is fun it seems like and then y h those the dust and the sandstorms all that stuff just looks like usually beautiful so man when you get that upgraded engine you're just like screaming down the road i mean with one of my favorite moments in the game is like when you catch some of the bad guys and they're parked so if you're really far away  right to go flying all over the place a car explosion everywhere it's really good but one thing i got i got to say though one thing that i think really works against mad max and they cover this america you actually is despite the fact that this is a game about wasteland survival and i trow cars and guns it's very subtle there's a lot of stuff that's really really subtle in this game that people a lot of reviewers are just completely dismissing they're not getting it for example when you go to see different hideouts of the bad guys every single hideout in the game is unique there's no cookie cutter structures so like every single building is its own building now some of the you know the materials used you know like old tires and corrugated tin or something that's very you know i mean you know one building is like in the ruins of a bridge and so it's kind of strung between the two supports of the bridge ones like where a plane crashed and so they built up around the wrecked plane so it's all these different really unique things that took a lot of time and effort and i think a lot of viewers are like oh ok it's another stronghold ok it's another you know hideout for bad guys whatever and they're not really noticing like how much detail is  to look and it's a chair it's like the back of a chair like this but the middle part was ripped out and there was an old tire and therefore is all right it was a toilet suspended over the side of a cliff is the only one of the entire game that i found that somebody had to take the time to be laid to make that i didn't make this toilet for this whole entire tire toilet higher toilet yeah i think that's awesome reminds me of last man on earth you watching that show i want to watch it ok at some point he has like a huge pool area and he just like makes it a toilet it is like sits down of the you know the thing in the diving board is playing a game that's very unusual and i like it because it is a i guess scary game but without being in this actually that is part of their tagline there's no jump scares there's no gore there's just kind of an uneasy feeling that's called albino low by i've heard about it one never about this is terrible is it good oh no i don't think so really you know you tell me well i mean i don't know what constitutes terrible in this you know everything's relative no is no gore i guess you're ok well here's the problem is i definitely don't like gore at all like not even my movies and the jump scare thing is getting kind of played out i mean there's definitely was a room of a thousand doors or something where it's literally just like a pumpkin that scares you i've heard of that and i have you know kitty cat i mean there's more to that game and it's cool but i don't want that i want i like the uneasy i like the shining i like things that are creepy creepy horror is what gets me excited so what this does is  developer actually told me to turn all lights off but the headphones on you know just kind of really get in there and i did and you basically are walking around this almost a tim burton type world very whimsical but then creepy you know overtones and there's these unusual creatures that kind of look like ironically they look like worms like little standing worms with a face but then they call you a worm for some reason they're like that worms out lets get in and you're basically like having these meetings and they're all talking about you how you should be around there and then as you keep like not dying they get more mad and mad at the fact that you're still here i won't say doing why is he here and then when they see you if they see you for too long the kind of your field of vision kind of gets crazy and you die so you're literally sneaking stealthy wise away from these weird monsters but while you're doing that there's always buttons in these different rooms and when you hit certain buttons it literally shifts the whole world around so like you know the whole room will feel upside down like physics are there so you're the chairs that are there will go upside down and i literally was like scaling back down through a room that looked like an upside down you know so yeah and so it makes you kind of confusing where you're at and then you're also freaked out that these little weird creatures are going to find you i just felt like an uneasy feeling and i just enjoyed that part of it like i like the idea of going through a weird world first person specifically and with the controller support and this figure out what is this world about you funny little letters in the room all these cryptic notes to you is a kind of gone home with words that's interesting i don't think so because it's more whimsically weird they've gone home gone home feel serious and it's really about this one story and you have time to look at stuff in this when i had no time to do anything i just felt like i could get that letter read it real quick and run away because these guys are mad at me w i have to edit that from the so my second one is just a simple little game on steam called comedy quest it's like the old old old school adventure king's quest police quest all those and you're basically a standup comedian and you're trying to get your first gig and you have a little notebook and when you see things in the world you can basically make jokes out of them so you kind of take your notebook and mouse over a thing like you see some funny thing right in the bathroom stall or something and that becomes a joke in a way later so you kind of have a score you have these jokes you can get and it's just kind of navigating the idea of being a you know like super little remember the clock oh yes that's waiting oh yes oh yes it's all that and so but i mean they're doing on a purpose and it's great and you have a cat your apartment it makes this weird sound like it's really do you feel like it's that way as a very overt or do you feel like it's that way because that's all the developers can do at this time you never know you know you know because i knew the person was going to ask me that and i can't tell because i'm making a game right now and i can only do so much with a two day game but the same time i like i got out of that so i like what i got so you know where is that like do we spend more money and make it better or is it fine as it is as it is for me i enjoy it and it's a really quick game you know like maybe hours long it's not like sup also a friend of ours and a friend to show even paul worked on a game quest which is very actually very similar and we have leave that i got both these games the same time and it's kind of going from what is going from real stories of police brutality oh really and so she literally put in some of the stories in the from true life from true life and you're the cop so you have to do all the atrocities and she told me there's other ways around it but i can find him so i like repeating innocent people arrested a g exactly center on cod two so this is kind of a infamous title the series is kind of if because it stars a bunch of girls who happen to be ninjas and they're all wake ridiculously well endowed and that's what i mean listening he got your attention right that's what most people come away with it they take one look at it they go oh i know what this is this is like almost like a hentai game or something haha not for me and to be fair i mean that with first glance that's all you see you know there's no hiding it no get around that that's part of the  literally right there but the thing is it's also got a really strong visual novel aspect to it the writing in the game is actually surprisingly good and you don't hear that call that very much by the reviewers who kind of pick it up take a look at it and then toss it aside and then you know give it a for something like yeah there's actually i played the one of the veto which came out last year it was excellent once you get past the t n a and granted there's a lot to get past i mean you get past t n a it's right in front of you know after like twenty minutes you like literally just to even notice it anymore because you're playing it's almost like like a really you know good time bubble gum game where like you laugh a lot and nothing is serious until maybe like a very in the maybe a few really you know emotional bits or something but it's just about these girls who want to all become like the ultimate ninja and like they fight so it's really crazy i'm talking you right but it's actually really well done if you can you know it's kind of time tongue in cheek humor pun not intended and as you just go on i'm sorry i had this again i don't know what but it deserves a fair shot if you like dynasty wear style combat the thing that it like best about the combat is that it's very short when i play dynasty warriors games i get really tired because it's like forty five minutes of killing ten billion dude yeah it gets old it gets really old they give you like literally like two minutes slices and it's  like talk for a little bit have a joke come back with a different character all the characters are totally different where they control they feel really good and there you go again sorry they feel i know him notion change yet no emotions i'm changing topic but they guessing they did that because it's mobile it's handheld yes right so you know obviously don't want to spend a long time and you want to be on the bus and do a couple quick of these things like missions you know and you see the story done save it you know go back and forth it's really it's a very compact need experience and i think that if you don't have a problem with t n a i think it's really fun i think to really have a game and you know there's two of them right that's the second one of that style there is one that's on the three d s that came out i think two years ago it's pretty rough pretty rough this is the second one for three d s big improvement and the one on the wii is also really excellent ok and what you get out and i think that was all i mean i'm playing a million things but we can maybe move to our topic which we probably have five minutes for but we will do that was my other game that i'm playing oh i try to make quickly mention under tale i don't know that i've heard of it tell me i don't know enough it's one of those things like coming soon oh let you know what i think about this game it looks like just an old school earthbound game basically i mean it looks like  and it says its big claim to fame is that you don't have to you know kill anybody does not have to be like the combat is not traditional combat is not the one where you can talk your way out of every battle every i've heard that maybe i don't maybe i'm literally coming to do this whole as not knowing but i do know that i want to play it like tonight just from based on some my friends sending it to me and then watching the videos for under tail check it out steam i think it's the same yes it's the everything's on the ending my ending i was actually kind of satisfied with well how many people died oh do you even know i know what it is i don't know me no spoilers or anything but a lot of my friends are raving about it and i know that the hook is like people can die yeah  now it's hard to explain why i'm happy with that i had to do three people die but you're ok with that i'm ok with those people dying where the air dating to were one in my own story that i made up  of how i saw the you know the the movie happening i sacrifice that had to be made it happens my point is really quickly in one minute summarize what do you think like do you like this trend do you want to see more of it and what do you want to see differently that you don't see already with your mentor type i like this trend i do want to see more of it and the thing that i want to get from this genre to make sure that happens is that we retain enough of the interactivity i don't want the crazy cat hair moustache puzzles that are going way too far like those really bizarre old school logic puzzles i don't like those but i have to i have to say that i think with the recent telltale games who's also been putting out quite a few of these adventures they've been really getting away from the gameplay and it feels like you're just watching a movie and then once in a while you're just making a really simple choice and that's not enough interactivity for me i don't need to search i don't need an open world or anything but i want to do a little bit more so if i don't do anything it doesn't really draw me in and i feel like i'm just watching a t v show and i'm pushing x once in a while it's not enough this is why we have you on the show that we just want the interactivity more because it makes all those things you're more invested in the world i actually mention the idea of having a g t a five type game but then still have those decisions you know so it would be great crazy it would be great then you can kind of sit down and live in that world for a while know that you're literally affecting it like a very granular level a car a box you can move things around but then these kind of over our kings decisions can be made it's funny that people haven't done that already because with all the stuff the criminal g t a there's very little stuff that you actually can affect in terms of choice it's like you're just following the missions you don't have much of a choice in what those missions are what happens and what's the most successful thing on you tube all the weird stuff that isn't the sort exactly right yeah totally by the way console's get the editor com where i am the managing editor been there for a long time and i hope to still be there for many years to go ok you should hope so i really think and i hope that i've still got a job you know you don't want to be too confident you know after this show with all that d n a can take nothing for granted your twitter is