good evening let's bring to order the august rd meeting of the transportation and circulation committee let's see first let's have the r here here here i don't think there's any changes to the agenda that i'm aware of it last minute changes to the agenda no madam chair thank you we have a request for public comment and did i get it anna okay please go ahead and give you a full name so i don't pronounce it improperly  liability and our poor infrastructure and the liability that the city would face if someone was actually on the street and something happened we talked about trip and falls and we talked about enforcement and we talked about cost recovery for the police officers because you know it's a hundred and seventy five dollars an hour for an offer officers if they're called out for some sort of issue we also talked about rebalancing which you guys will probably talk about today but one of the things that we really did not talk about is what happens when the person who is writing a scooter causes someone else in injury who's responsible for that person's medical bills who's responsible to make sure that that person is made whole you are not required to have any insurance when you get a scooter we don't have any insurance wraparound coverage or general liability requirements with that scooter ordinance those people are left to fend for themselves and did you know that right now in the state of california in terms of santa barbara we rank third in poverty so one injury could be a substantial problem for any of our residents twenty three percent live in poverty so what happens if they have a traumatic brain injury because they've been hit what happens if they break a leg what happens if they get a concussion no one is asking the questions and no one is talking about best practices for a city our size we really haven't done our due diligence with the scooter ordinance and now you've got something for bikes that you'll be looking at today so i'm just trying to bring up some issues that i think are very very big and things that have been overlooked and they are very important to our residents and to tourists who might also be injured thank you i'm not but i'm not speaking about that right this moment i don't want you to think it's being ignored we're just moving through the agenda good thank you all right let's move on to the approval of the minutes through june th of two thousand and eighteen on the downtown waterfront shuttles so first my first few slides are just a little bit about where the shuttle falls and in relation to other all the other route system wide we carried six point three million passengers which is a very high number for a city of this size indicates that mtd not only do we provide a high level of service but that the residents here appreciate the service and ride it pretty good extent so we're always happy to see that here's a listing of all of our routes by number of passengers carried the the greatest numbers of the ones at the bottom of the chart are our trunk routes no surprise the six hundred and eleven the in the city of santa barbara and a couple of ucsb routes the downtown waterfront shuttle and and read there is and just just makes it into the top third which is good for especially for a service that operates with smaller vehicles than any of our other routes and then a similar slide here shows riders per revenue hour now what a revenue hour is in the transit business is anytime a bus is out on the street for an hour carrying passengers that is one revenue hour so if you have say four buses out on one at one time that's four hours for revenue hours that's the way that's measured and as you can see the the shuttle is carrying about twenty one passengers per per hour which is is good in our system it falls just just in the kind of the middle third of the of the routes at the at the lower end of the middle third so again for a system of this type we think that's not doing or not if not you should give them a try and this just shows the route the the state street shuttle runs from solo street down to the to the the wharf and it is a separate some good news to talk about something new next month i believe we're going to be introducing a one day pass that's specific to the downtown waterfront shuttles will cost a dollar and you there unlimited rides for a calendar day so it'll function to some extent like a hop on hop off shuttle that you see in a lot of cities and we think that'll be attractive to people i know im td's marketing department is working with visit sb with downtown organization to help market hotels have agreed some hotels have agreed to buy them and we're working with museums see landing the waterfront as well we'll do some giveaways to locals because we think this could work not only just for tourists but also for for local residents so we're excited about this  this new element in the service just real briefly go through the schedule you may remember at the beginning of this last fiscal year on july st working with the city we you the first hour of service on state street which was used to start at nine zero with just one shuttle so it wasn't very frequent so now you're around the service on both state street and the waterfront begins at ten zero and runs till six zero the exception to that is during the summer we have some service till nine o'clock on state street and east beach only not west beach and then so that's basically just the rest of the year it's just ten zero to six zero i should also mention the frequency in the summer is greater because we have more buses out and service at one time so on state street we aim for every ten minutes on the waterfront every fifteen minutes in the summer and then back to the rest of the year it's fifteen minutes on state street and thirty minutes on the  waterfront then a little bit about the actual performance of the service during the year we carried just over three hundred and six thousand passengers now that is a decrease from the previous year about a twelve percent decrease so we were not thrilled about that and  we're continuing to look into ways to see first why that's happening and second to reverse that trend and increase ridership we operated about fourteen five hundred revenue hours as i was describing earlier the cost of the service to mtd is about one seven million and the city pays about one one million of that and fare by down subsidy and then actual fare revenues the quarters than fifty cent's that people drop in the fare box adds up to about a little over a hundred thousand actually was a i'm sorry one hundred and sixteen thousand for the year and this just kind of to show by month the ridership versus the revenue hours as you can see there's a pretty close correlation between how many people ride in a given month and the amount of revenue hours of service that that we provide and that's been that that pattern has been pretty standard throughout my years at mtd and i'm sure prior to that as well it just tends to drop off a lot in the in the winter and is of course highest in the in the summer so that's my presentation i'd be happy to try and answer any questions that any of you may  have thank you for the presentation i do have a quick clarifying question on not sure which slide it is i think two back on the fy two thousand and eighteen performance yes i'm just doing some quick math so you said that the cost to mtd is one  seven million the city provides a one one million subsidy and you bring in point one million in revenues yes so if i do the math on that does that mean that you're taking a half million dollar hit yeah but you know it's it's public transit and that's what we do and we're certainly you know more than happy to contribute to the service so yes you're right do you have grants or other outside funding sources to help make up some of that difference well we do we get money we get a course fair revenue we've got a pretty sizable chunk of fair revenue we get federal money state money and we get some money from the local sales tax the major a so yeah we we do get subsidies from various sources so are you hold on this line are you operating at a lo well i mean well a little bit of transit one hundred and one i guess transit services generally never do make a profit they they just don't and so to say operating at a loss i mean every any bus service in the country practically is not making back its full cost through the fair revenue and so there's always a subsidy involved to pay that remained the remaining cost of the service and you can say that for basically any transportation mode you know highways get a lot of tax money airports rail systems they all get you know a lot of tax subsidy transportation it's just not a business that generally pays for itself any other questions i just wondered if you'd i was looking at this picture of the new bus and just wondered if you'd give us a night quick rundown on what some of the benefits are of the new west well it's bigger holds more people assuming we were able to turn the ridership around that'll be a good thing they're air conditioned which a lot of people like there are much improved technology over our two thousand your shuttles that we are replacing which were nicad batteries nickel cadmium batteries these are i don't even remember the name there are there are new technology they do they can go faster they can run more hours in a day before they need to be recharged i'm sure there's other benefits that i'm forgetting at the those goes in just like the fare box revenue does yes and for most of the fares i believe you have a handicap or discs or discount for seniors half the fare so do you have something in the future for the one day pass well as we did for many years on the cash fare on the shuttle because the fare is already bought down to a substantial degree it's already less that the one dollar is already less than your cash fare of a regular route which would be a dollar seventy five and so we're not at this moment at least at this time planning to do a reduced fare on the on the on the past you know it could be something we'd consider in the future thank you s very valuable especially introduce the concept of the the day pass quick question not to get technical but for ucsb and city college students are they sliding cards are they showing and like hitting up driver well currently they're not they have to pay a fare to ride this this route is distinct from our ground totally so i'll bring it back but i guess my question is just from a technical standpoint are they flashing cards are they sliding their cards on the other actually it's in the final testing in the next month basically so there are some being tapped actual proximity cards like a chip card  but currently for those services they're showing the sticker there's a little bit of both okay cool so okay the reason i asked that and i really like the day pass i really think that reflects mtd really trying to be innovative and come up with you know creative ways of looking at growing ridership for this really important it's a baseline important route so i'm gonna kind of match that i think this is a great prototype i think that it's play may be limited and it's very important circles that it can get distributed through but they're limited is just not going to be a mass market kind of thing however i do think that similar to the presentation at downtown parking i think it'd actually be great to have a presentation at the waterfront because they also support the portion of these  routes and really continuing that creative innovative thinking for ways to integrate fully the waterfront and downtown shuttles through the system so there's downtown parking and there's waterfront parking waterfront parking is the whole waterfront right and and that's the same stretch so i i would love to see that i think there might even be creative ideas that can't be implemented immediately but i'll give one example and the waterfront i met the harbor frequently and it's actually really hard to see the waterfront shuttle because it's outside because it's on shoreline and that's really outside of the when you're visiting the waterfront so if you're visiting you know brophy brothers and the harvard you don't see it at all and the the station is not ideal in terms of where you're gonna sit however maybe they could do something in the future like ucsb where the buses could actually go through the parking lot and exit the exit by los  random idea would cost some money but like that's the kind of thing that maybe you all could get from the waterfront or from the harbor commission that could help boost service on that row which i mean in my world i would love if people are regularly going in between state street and the harbor because it's so close so anyway i really appreciate the tak that you all are taking on this and i really would just like to ask that you continue it well we will and thank you and yeah you know any ideas that you have are great we're always happy to hear you know suggestions from members of this committee or any members of the public and you know we do everything that comes in we look at it and consider it see if it's feasible and and you know take it seriously i just want to add  the excuse me the one day pass seems terrific and i i really like that idea a lot and um kind of chime in that as a my utilization i'm a grandmother with kids with strollers and and they love moxie and the parking there it took me a while to even figure out where to park for moxie because it when you drive up you're not even sure where to find anything and you kind of go around behind the fish enterprise and park but the idea of the of this of  this pass i think we could you know i could park up the street somewhere and take the shuttle down and i wouldn't feel so locked in to having to park and unpack the stroller and go through all that drama so close by so i think there's a e the schedule book has stopped numbers that are used with the applica for sending a message in getting bus times are the busses are the new equipment all supporting that in terms of equipment trucking they will be we're in the process of integrating this the new buses have the software but it's we're in the process of getting it integrated into our system so that at some point you will be able to use the app just on those routes just like on any other route that's the ways the way few months several months  yes sorry i i lost one of my points if you can believe that but so just to loop back i've asked about that sort of the sticker and the reason being as mentioning the parking the waterfront or downtown i really feel strongly that the ability to use your parking pass for our system where we encourage people to park once and then enjoy santa barbara locations throughout the day should be integrated with both those shuttles and the ability to show like i bought in the system we're paying for the fare by down so i'd love if that could be integrated and we are literally buying individual fair buy downs with either waterfront or downtown parking tickets  is the technology compatible in that the tickets that are issued by the parking machines striped or i haven't been involved in the smart in our smart card our new program it looks like maybe mister dayton we've been working to do that we want to do just that and there's there's good news and there's bad news so the take this the tickets we use from skidata are right now aren't compatible so we're trying to figure out a solution that some of the other challenges to is is most people leave their tickets in their car so that they don't actually lose them and when you do is your ticket it's it's it's not you know we have to charge people a little bit more perhaps than they were even parking but that is a goal and the d and the downtown parking has asked for that and we want to make that happen we we pay for the the city pays for the shuttle so you know we can ask for a free ride for everyone who's parking in the in the parking district that's not a t shirt it's just it's just how to do it we've even said maybe we just need to have them show their parking ticket you know just show the driver so those discussions are ongoing  hopefully gonna land on some solution soon well thank you very much really appreciate it that's up to them sure oh tip could you ask presentation and then we have some requests for speakers so i'd like to have the presentation and then brief clarifying questions from the committee and then public yeah maybe bring that over much easier i won't touch the mouse it always does not work for me so good evening and thank you it's exciting that we're actually here talking about vision zero i know we've talked about this in the past with the committee as a matter of fact the city council implemented a policy in two thousand and sixteen the late two thousand and sixteen and did a policy and we actually came to the circulation and translation circulation first night that our mobility coordinator gave a presentation and that was her last day so so we have been challenged with staff since then and perhaps it's good that we've had a little bit of pause one one to note is that because we don't have a plan approved by council yet does not mean we are not implementing the policy and one thing you're going to hear in this presentation i hope a lot and you've seen in the document is that about projects what derek and i realize in a very profound way is that this policy is shifting the way we think and so that's why i was saying perhaps it's good that we've had the pause because i think we have had enough time to marinate on what is an effective plan and well what we've come up with is that we should do a strategy and not a plan but i'll get to that so what it just for those who are watching at  home and don't know what vision zero is what what is it it's it's a statement that traffic related deaths and serious injuries are avoidable and unacceptable and then there needs to be a shift in transportation goals and a certain amount of time one of the ones that gives me the most hope is that new york just announced that they've got over forty four percent reduction in pedestrian deaths and injuries in just since two thousand and fourte that is a pretty dramatic change with rethinking how we do transportation so our zero a vision zero policy that the council has adopted is that we will eliminate all severe and fatal transportation related  and twenty thirty and again that seems aggressive but when you see the results coming from some of our other cities that have issues i think that it gives us hope that we can make huge strides and then we're going to prioritize  transportation safety that is going to be above all the most important thing one of the interesting things about this discussion is who gets hurt who's the most likely to get hurt in santa barbara in the system this is how santa barbara's commute eighty walking and biking is pretty high at thirteen percent and you could see the rest but the challenge is is that when you're in a collision although vehicles do have a lot of collisions and you see the the about the the right proportion of sixty two percent of serious injuries or fatalities and that's over a ten year period one of the things you're going to note from chitina change from last time is we were looking at fifteen years of data and we're changing that to ten because we  have a new reporting mechanism and so we want to be apples to apples we have the last ten years and we've got the most recent data so this has been all updated since you last saw it with last time you saw it the last year was two thousand and fifteen now we got two thousand and seventeen so that's really good but the just this the this declarative who gets hurt the most likely person is gonna be a pedestrian or a bicyclist and that's not okay one of the things that i am really excited about the changes the out of the things that you asked us to look at the core principles is something that's new to the document and i'm gonna walk you through them but here's what i want you to think about when you think about core principles and why they might be helpful is because when we bring projects forward we have to have in short order not a whole document you know twenty page document but in short order some just very some value statements that we as transportation professionals and as a police department and elected officials that we will live by and so that's what this represents something that we can actually put in a council agenda report or reference in a presentation and so it's our core principles the other thing we've added is safety first mentality we've really strengthened that that area i think what our traffic engineer and myself derek bailey was and the staff is we have these discussions we really feel that this the safety mentality and the shift in that that is really gonna make the difference in the end and then also something we've already talked about the targeted corridors we're gonna go over that again but that is not new so seven the seven core principles life is most important whether you are dying in santa barbara because it's a murder or because you get hit by a car it's still a death and that's really important every person matters it doesn't matter race color creed wherever you're from socioeconomic status every person matters people make mistakes this is at the core thrust vision zero is that people are going to make mistakes or no longer saying that that's okay we're saying we're going to try to design the roadway in a way and educate in a way so that when someone doesn't make a mistake it's not a fatal or a severe injury number four we're gonna focus on dangerous locations and behaviors that's where we're statistically driven where we can focus our limited resources we only have a limited amount of resources at the city of santa barbara we're gonna focus those on the most dangerous locations and behaviors and then number five drivers have a critical responsibility and if you read the language under that i think it is pretty strong but i think it's important number six pedestrians and cyclists are the most vulnerable road users because they are it's not that we're saying hey you you take the full load but because they are the most vulnerable we have to educate them about that fact that they need to be visible they need to behave in a way that's going to be predictable and and to protect themselves safety and now what we're doing is we're saying hey know at every level we're gonna take responsibility and that's how we get to zero the safety first mentality i think is best described in another transportation industry that actually has had vision zero from the beginning and that is the airline industry if if a plane goes down everybody reads about it there's multiple deaths involve it's usually death and it's usually can be in the hundreds everyone reads about it everyone knows about it it's good he actually gets kind of globally transmitted in fact if the airline had planes going down all the time they would not have an industry so we could say that that's probably a little bit economically derivative but as a result they they have all these things in place like how many people have been on the and they're turning the plane around it doesn't even sound like a small thing but we're still going back to to the plank because the plane something's not right we're not doing it everything we rushed out to someone installed a light pole in you know barely in the approach runway for santa barbara earlier this year and we were out unbolting it like we were you know we were is like an alarm because they have vision zero thinking but when you think about when someone gets in a collision you know it's thirty zero americans a year but you don't hear about it and when you do hear about it i was just listening on the radio on the way here motorcycle down now we're backed up it's not about th e the injuries or the fact that this motorcyclist may have died we're actually talking about the congestion and the inconvenience that's gonna result so the focus isn't even on safety and and and and then the other thing that culturally is happening is that we call everyone and even in our industry for many years we call them accidents but there actually is no such thing as an accident with automobiles and there's always a cause that we find and we find it's it's preventable so it's that safety first mentality we've done a think a robust job of talking about how it's going to shift and it's going to shift in mainly these areas w speeding because the faster you're going the the more likely that someone's going to get hurt or have a fatality substance abuse is a very big part of our collision record to use d very heavy on that distracted driving which is kind of new in the last five years but is quickly becoming something that's showing up on the statistics mainly because we have single drivers mid block getting a nicola jude what was that about distracted driving non use of safety devices inadequate of forcement and so we the there's going to be more we're going to be apply our new thinking our safety first mentality in these areas and one of the things that i'm really excited about that we've and i'm sorry officer tagless is not here to talk about it with us is that the police department is actually going to start giving their statistics their crime statistics alongside vehicle collision fatalities and severe injuries so that so when they're looking at the police resources we're talking about okay so death on either side of those equations is not it's not okay and if people are getting hurt it's not okay and so how we gonna allocate our police resources very excited about that step that they've said they want to take as a part of their community policing approach yeah seen you see in the strategy we're all responsible but by reporting them side by side it elevates or perhaps makes create some equity about who's getting you know who's getting hurt and it's not okay that anyone gets hurt  so you've heard about the four e's i won't spend a lot of time but that's a significant portion of the strategy and largely we've just made it a little bit more robust and then the quarter chord priority corridor approach and we  hit this one home i think you felt that last time we talked about this is that we get we get complaints every day we get complaints from the public about something that may is feels unsafe it's perceived unsafe  get we get complaints pd gets complaints up they they want you know there's a dead end street and there's someone speeding there's no collisions and they're going out and doing radar enforcement on a dead end street this is just the reality we're very you know we want to take care of santa barbara and we want to be responsive to santa barbara so we're good with handling planes the challenge is is that we have a limited amount of resources and so focusing our energy in our time on priority corridors and then also communicating t public why that's important to them for their safety is something we're gonna need to learn in and our learning to do and we're gonna focus on that identifying patterns that indicate opportunities for improvement what are the patterns that we're seeing based on the that would lead to design alternatives and a coordinator approach with pd and enforcement we have a new heat map it's a little different than the one you saw before derek is very proud of this map so please respect this map it just really is it just does a good job of showing where the hot spots are and where those hot spots are are where collisions are most likely to repeat that's where you're gonna you're gonna get the repeats  we did get some comments about because we're showing the heat a heat map this way rather than the we had the dots before with little bit bigger dot four repeats that this is harder to see the streets so i'm not sure how we rectify that we know where the streets are but perhaps we can work on the map and making sure that the you understand where you're looking and then our priority corridors they've gone up we've got more we just wanted to show the whole string of the corridors and how they relate in terms of safety right now when we when we do even you may not know this but bike lanes in santa barbara we  had huge growth in bike rain bike lanes and in my tenure because of one simple thing whenever we repave the street we said can we put a bike lane if we could we put it in just no loss of lanes just put in a bike lane and we doubled the lane miles of bikes that way and so one of the things you need to know is that with the passage of measure c now we have road maintenance we're gonna start accelerating our program and really taking care of our streets that means the opportunity to restrike so as we're looking at these corridors it doesn't mean that we're gonna say hey let's focus all of our our attention on an upper state street or lower state street right now until we solve that problem it means that when we have these really good opportunities to change and really focus on a corridor with striping with little new designs with enforcement that we're gonna take the opportunity when we're on the street so w are going to focus from top to bottom but we're also going to take the opportunity when we're on the street the priority quarter actions we just have a little bit kind of a change of verbage and i wan in the document i think it says these are preliminary you know we we this is this is a this is not an exhaustive we haven't done all the the examining to you know with the microscope level but this is a this is a high level first go with what the actions might be but i just don't it's going to be richer as we go through location by location so i hope you are encouraged at the responsiveness to your comments this goes to city council coincidentally on so we're hoping that you would like to participate that i think it's a good opportunity i think it's a really milestone event i think the the policy was for sure but i think the strategy we're just a little bit i think when we passed the policy we kind of understood what we're getting to it i think now we you know we like hey you know the heroes the heroes those are the guys with the badges and in the fire department you know this what this says is hey the transportation people need to can save lives now so it is it is a milestone  moment for the industry in general and so i hope you can attend and support it at city council and we'll take your  questions we should be there mmm do we have any quick clarifying questions before we take some public comment anybody okay let's do some public comment let's see jim  i everybody has a course has to love the vision zero concept but as rob put it out the majority of the highest percentage of problems are pedestrians and bikes so i wonder why we're trying to now bring in fifteen mile an hour scooters that could be left any place people can trip fall the scooters can i have accidents in the streets and then i could enforce the helmet law i know we want to bring bicycles in these are two most prevalent places for a death so i don't see how this can help your plan at all unless the scooters and bikes are very very much enforced and living downtown i can see the police don't even force the skateboard and sidewalks now and i don't see how they're gonna be able to enforce the scooters but those things are fifteen miles an hour and one of my traffic engineering buddies from the old days told me the biggest problem of safety is the difference in speed between vehicles if you can go eighty miles an hour if everybody else is but if you're going five miles an hour and someone's going twenty that's a more dangerous situation so i think it's ridiculous to even think about a fifteen mile an hour scooter or a fifteen to twenty mile bicycle in places where people aren't going that fast but that's all say i love the plan but i don't see how it's going to help you at all to have more pedestrian scooter bicycles on the planet here thank you thank you very much frank peters chair committee members my name is frank peters i'm a member of the citizen advisory committee for his measure c i'm a member of the board of directors for sb bike i'm so excited to see vision zero plan here and i just like to say thank you to staff and mister dayton your remarks so encouraging really very heartfelt as i'm reading this you can you can even see from there here's because i'm on sp bike from time to time edie and i share a ride in a car and half the time he's the passenger so he could tell you of the times that i have missed an exit on the freeway more than once but only one stop sign that i rolled right through so it's age he's quick he's kind he's quick to say that everybody that happens to everybody my age is what i hear so i'm very aware of that and that has caused me to bring a new sensitivity to how i ride my bike and certainly how i drive a car could i draw your attention vision zero since it was first invented it's a it's a mindset it's a new way of looking at things and i thought i would just share this with you you see these up and down state street right no left turn during different hours now the other day i had breakfast down at the rina so i'm out early prior to ten zero a m seldom do i make trips on my bicycle that early in the morning so  on state street and i'm heading down there and i see cars opposing me sitting at the light with their left turn blinker on and i'm aware of that and i'm seeing that but the acknowledgement of a recognition i feel is wow it's different right now it's before a m right same thing on sundays i have to be aware and picture i make mistakes and so do the motorists so this i think you could say this particular picture here this sign is exclusively for the benefit of the motoring public  soon i'm gonna have a new electric bike i know the color it's going to be black and as i am rolling down state street early in the morning or on a sunday i know that the motorists who is perhaps watching me closely and preparing to make his left turn he might have trouble recognizing that this is a bicyclist but he's moving faster because he's an electric bike that all adds up to potential for  you know and unhappy outcome thank you for your consideration thank you chairwoman rob it's nice to see you all focusing on severe injuries and deaths rather than skinned knees i think that's very very important that's an important chip for for everybody that we can't take care of every skinned knee nonetheless when i commented on the bicycle master plan six months before public comments started i was told it was too late by your staff this is you quoted world health organization this is a public health approach virtually every vision zero plan in a large city has a public health component i that's what i do i'm not asking for myself to be involved but you're gonna need a public health component if you're gonna get anywhere why for instance i have noticed that three cookus are twenty five percent of the serious bicycle injuries are not included in your sweater statistics they're not there i can tell you why but not now it's gonna take some time twenty five percent of the deaths that occur in seda barbara county due to bicycles are not in sweaters this is not city now i'm moving up to county level how does public health approach these things you nice analogy to the to the airplanes what public health does is it looks at every death as an individual case and tries to figure out why it happened that's how we do with maternal deaths maternal deaths are totally unacceptable pregnancy we do an analysis of each one i would urge you to look at some of those deaths i don't know if you know the last one that occurred in santa barbara it was a real interesting one you know where it was what street it was good headers it was to argue with you later you got to look at every one of these deaths and that's my main point the only other quick thing i'll say is i see you still have your ten year rolling average statistically your ten year rolling average is your outcome measure you're gonna see a ten year a change in ten year rolling average that was in the document i think am i right statistically absolutely impossible that you're gonna see anything in another decade and i can prove that to you also a change you're gonna have to find another way of looking at outcomes  i'm always happy to work through ii d and through s b by caldo i'm not speaking for them but i'm happy to give you some detailed comments i hope this can get in before you go to council because otherwise i'm going to say the same thing good evening i'm eva in bar i'm on the board of coast and we have campaign together with sb bike for five years and this is a great feeling for us to see this come to fruition here  the plan that we're seeing tonight i think is much improved over the one that we saw in february their language is very good idea is well laid out i think and the principles this is all good and so i commend public works for that also what i was missing and some others were missing last time what i called the beef some of the concrete action steps that we are going to take that is now in there some of the things that we are going to do on those high injury corridors that is so important and that is one thing that in fact they did in new york and that made their programs were successful they had a number of things they were going to do from the very beginning such as neighborhood slow zones and they had to go to the state of new york to get the law change there so they put a great deal of effort into those  things that i've called the beef and that now is in the plan too it's a work in progress of course as it should be so this is all good so i'm i'm pleased with a plan and i want to thank public works for  sustained effort that they put into this so this is it it really shows so i hope it'll be transformative thank you thank you let's see annamarie got and i have to say i agree with a lot of the comments so far and i love the fact that the gentleman was bringing data i loved having accurate data that's actually included information that you can actually base decisions on i don't think we actually made good decisions when the scooter ordinance was passed and i don't like the idea that this bike ordinance that you're gonna be talking about today is gonna be based on or at least you're looking at the same scooter ordinance i wanted to read you something it might take a little bit longer but it basically in let me just stop you guys are trying to prevent accidents you're trying to reduce injuries right can we look at i think it was slide number fifteen that's where we also want to put the scooters that's where we think most people are going to be writing the bicycles in the last mile and i think people really need to look at that map because that is where cars have the most accidents is that where we're going to have the most accidents with bicycles and pedestrians the gentleman showed you the the no left hand turn signal our tourists really going to not make a left as they're going up on a scooter upstate strait probably not so getting back to the article as bike share programs get new riders on the road and into better shape some doctors say that they're treating more injuries including traumatic ones related to cycling and that cities need to do more to actually protect protect not only cyclists but the pedestrians in a paper last year at the governor's highway safety association they said that there was an increase in deaths of twelve point two percent in two thousand and fifteen and that was based on data from the national highway traffic safety and bicycle fatalities rose by one three three percent hospital administer admissions due to bike traumas rose a hundred and twenty percent which means that injuries are more severe this is from berkeley in san francisco and mount sinai they they have trauma centers that deal with bike  injuries what they looked at was a thirty four percent increase in accidents they said that of time i'm they the main reason the doctors who are looking into this say that they are having so many more bike fatalities and injuries is because people aren't wearing helmets and they say that oftentimes tourists who want to go joyriding and explore the city actually are the ones that are harmed more often thank you very  much go ahead howard i like to focus on the next slide i think after that the priority quarters both that slide and then the detail that's in the more textual report i need to understand the relative length because the statistics here look weird in other words it may be that the baths rate only was the length of the street is a factor of the length of the corridor and i don't know between now and the city council whether that's worthy of considering but  the prioritization right now is based on this chart i think and i think it's not calculating for length not calculating for traffic thank you and first time i say i'm so excited about this i wouldn't i was reading the strategy and the report i like wanted to cheer because i it's it's been a long time coming and i want to thank coasts and all  you be like and all the individuals in the public who've fought for this when no one knew what vision zero meant and i feel like you know especially iva has been you know banging that drum for so for so many years and it's paying off and i mean it'll ultimately pay off by two thousand and thirty but it's paying off now and i've noticed just an interaction with city with city staff since the policy that you are more self assured and understand that the focus is this the focus is safety first and that was very clear and as wonderful as all the work has been we can all be honest and say that has not been the guiding you know the north star for most departments in most jurisdictions but it hasn't been for us and i'm i'm so excited about it and i think it's i think it will be transformative and i think already has been in some ways about how we think of things to that end and i know this is something i harp on all the time i'm interested to see how this plays out in some of our design review boards i will never forget the pedestrian refuge island that was taken out of a project after being approved for aesthetic reasons from the historic landmarks commission that's  bee in my bonnet that will remain frankly until that pedestrian refuge wound is put on cabrillo boulevard but that is something that is absolutely unacceptable and it's not stated explicitly in here but i still i still understand this to be that aesthetics will never outweigh good engineering and and safety and i'm and that hasn't been the case and i'm so appreciative that that will be the case it makes me proud to live in the city for that reason and what you're doing what about the complaint system and i understand i've had my whole public service career has been a lot of dealing with a lot of complaints from the public about things that either either perceived problems real problems all that i know it's very hard and we want to please everyone and we want to give everyone the thing that they want so that they feel better  but we got to follow the statistics and i know that that's it's going to be tricky you're gonna stumble but but it's so so important and i think the i'd be interested to hear about other cities like new york right so that deaths were down forty four percent was that deaths and serious or just deaths so i'd be interested you know all the other thing all the all the skins knees i think we will have fewer skinned knees right if we do this right so the not so serious but still on a given day if you're knocked off your bike and you didn't die or go to the hospital and ambulance it's still not great and that's gonna solve a lot of those problems too so i hope we're track alongside for those that are reported anyway and i know that they are not always so on that design review question i'd be interested to see if if we could have some type of orientation for boards that deal with that kind of thing off the bat not on an ad hoc basis for projects just to give them a there's a new sheriff in town and safety is our number one  priority and and all of this i think it's important frankly for all of our boards and commissions but especially for them because they have made those determinations in the past the heatmap i i do like your map derek it's very good could we go to that slide so the ten year and i know that there's you know statistical issues and everyone could debate data till we're blue in the face and research methods  the thing i'm thinking as i look at the the the red dot the farthest to the coast sort of the bottom is that  what so what would be interesting and and there's there's a little bit of yellow heat at las positas and and cliff thinking about as we go through time we're looking at this ten year but as we've put in projects checking back at those certain hot spots right so we have a roundabout there right now khoda we have a protected lane being able to toggle between we go and maybe if there's a website you know like goes through here if there's a slider where we can show look it made a difference and we don't have to just average over ten years and that's the only thing we look at and i think we're gonna see some some good things out of that the last thing is enforcement and i get i'm signed up for all these alerts from city you know through nick's alert through where and prepare whatever city county and i get so many and i know the grant fund and everything i get so many emails about like but a bike and pet enforcement this thursday in goleta or in the city of santa barbara and they don't say where it's gonna be so it's sort of put you on edge mind your p's and q's if you like hey we're gonna come get you bike and ped and i agree that that needs to continue but i would like to see more publicity about hey motorists that are driving this deadly weapon we're gonna come get  you and i know it's education but that's something that i think there's not as much of a sort of public relations message that's pointed in our community anyway that if you're not stopping for pedestrians  we're gonna come after your speeding whatever i just i don't see that as a as someone who uses all modes i'm i'm much more worried that you know an officer's watching what i'm doing when i'm on my  bike then when i'm in a car which is sort of backwards um so i really appreciate this i'm so excited i'm definitely gonna try to come to the council meeting to support this because this is a lot of work it's gonna be a lot of work and i'm  yeah i'm really excited that we're at this point and i like that it's a strategy not a plan because you can re strategize you can you can keep it going and keep it alive and not just put it on a shelf and i i trust and believe that that process and it's really working well and i'm so glad that you've moved in this direction i i would like to ask again about education funding because thousand dollars and counsel put that into our budget yeah so we have that funding so now it's just a matter of finding you know being very strategic with that money you know the things that i think about  recycle campaign you know and the guilt i feel you know if i can't find the blue can you know so so i think that's the kind of thing we need to do and and we need to hire people who know how to do that i don't think there's really anyone on board in our team who knows how to do that so we have to figure out how to really get santa barbara's attention when there's so many different messages going on and cause some disruption about what we're talking about  some of you may know i have a master's degree in public health and i have been in this community as a health professional for a number of years and my first involvement really was in developing the general plan that we currently operate with putting health care into the general plan for the city of santa barbara for the first time and i worked with rob on that project so we're still on that plan and one of the things we wanted was to reduce  improve traffic reduce fatalities it was a general statement we wanted to reduce asthma we want to reduce obesity by having better walkability these are goals that are happening all over the country and at that time it was brand brand new and it reminds me of vision of this vision zero this is this is another this is another step of further modification or improvement of from that general idea of let's make let's figure out how the city can make life better for people in a whole lot of ways so that being said we have had discussions here about the issue of people who  are riding a bike and fall and break a pelvis and it never gets documented by the police or the fire department because they get up and take themselves to the hospital or they call an ambulance so this is fabulous that has to be said and the work that is going on here is incredibly important what as a as a public health advocate i think the next step really needs to be that the hospital system in this community coordinates and reports you're talking about the the step we're making of coordinating the traffic complaints with the plate the police department complaints about my street is a nightmare they tell they call derek and drive them crazy they call the police and drive them crazy my streets of nightmare and those streets end up getting on the list and then the actual collisions for  bicycles that's really the bad stuff that's the worst stuff and that's what we're seeing and it's the most important to address but wouldn't it be terrific if we knew all the people who hurt themselves on their bikes but never told anybody in the law enforcement community i think that we're doing we could move into that direction so i'm not saying we have to do it this minute but i just think that that's part of the reason i'm on this committee is to and and rob we've talked about that in many other conversations that the fusion of a true public health documentation along with jurisprudence documentation is really is really a good thing so and i i would speak to annamarie's point i think that this chart does require does talk about bicycle accidents and i guess i do since it came up a couple of times can we talk a little bit about scooters i think you're  on i think you're on point with vision zero as long as you talk talk about transportation safety so what if our scooters possibly you know we're modifying this if scooters are going to become more popular and electric bikes can we see can would in the future could we have that be will that evolve as part of this report i'm assuming yeah i think i think the scooters and to some extent shared mobility adds a lot of challenges and complexity to transportation issues you know there's there's two ways of looking at that on the one hand you can look at it like well there's if you really wanted to be biking or walking in santa barbara and and to some extent if you say well there's some creative mobility coming out and there may be some injuries involved in it is similar it's a similar you know will then don't use that transportation form and you know and and to some extent that may be appropriate but we we do have to consider that you know people are going to get away around in new ways we're gonna have cars driving around without drivers and it's just gonna be really really an interesting future for us all and so the the in regards specifically to the scooters i don't think that the that the we did move forward with an emergency ordinance but that was primarily to not let rogue scooter come to town and that there were very strong safety issues and concerns a couple of them are were mentioned in the public commenting tripping on them as they're just left to strewn and then there's no helmet provided directly with which is required by law so there's there's all sorts of things that the council even has something in there about regulating speed because the top speed i think was fifteen and and and i think that we've heard from other communities that's too high i don't think the conversation is over by any means and we haven't looked at the vendor we're moving very slow and you know it may maybe not pan out if the if the the bar is pretty high for safety for the operator and if they can't meet those terms that are in the ordinance then then maybe we won't get there but if they can and we do have them on our street and they do provide a lot of mobility then we're gonna have to deal with that too because you know transportation is supposed to be transportation i hope that's helpful thank you very much is there is there any current activity of that i'm probably unaware of collaborating emergency room documentation with police or  i'm feeling in an awkward position i will discuss that with you after the meeting um well generally we don't have people come back for public  two minutes okay if you you have to come to the podium to for a brief answer from one of our this is must report all serious injuries to the federal government all they have to do is share that data with the city there's already a system going on okay thank you very much well that's enlightening and i guess i would encourage us to maybe explore that it's possible with all your spare time if it really could be done electronically it might be a really nifty thing i don't know susan's old public health person to nodding with me comments i wanted to share so first i just want to come in staff i think this is an excellent excellent strategy that you put together and a vast improvement over the previous iteration back in february so i want to thank her for taking seriously the comments heard from this committee  the diazien and independently and from the public as well it definitely is reflected in and what we've seen here tonight and i have a few key points one i wanted to share my support for the move from a plan to a strategy and my day job i am responsible for overseeing the implementation of a multi year very formal plan it is rigid and it is difficult to implement and i would really love to have the flexibility of a strategy to be able to adapt to changing conditions priorities and in particular funding sources so i don't want to you know the little plans overall but i think that a strategy accomplishes the purpose of clearly stating what the vision is what you're trying to accomplish how you're going to do it but also remaining fluid and adaptable to changing conditions so definitely support that second i also wan support for the inclusion of the core principles i think those are really nice and tight and succeed as well as being bold and clear and really highlighting the importance of public safety and the value of all lives regardless of your transportation mode you know to it also think it takes it it really keeps it at the forefront of people's mind and it makes it easier to enter eight into future decision making and being able to reference back to without having to know a specific page number you know way down in the weeds of the strategy itself along those lines of being able to report refer back to i would be supportive of some way to kind of integrate a connection for future council items back to the vision zero strategy and so an analogy i would make is that i know there's been an effort by the city to try to integrate a standard an impact statement related to environmental sustainability and the council action reports it would be nice to see something similar to that or maybe even embedded with that related to the vision strategy and the vision zero strategy third i also wanted to kind of highlight what i view as an important kind of messaging an education focus by distinguishing between locals and non locals you know just to give a personal  example you know i am a very active pedestrian all over santa barbara and i run pretty much the same time every every morning and i feel very safe and very comfortable no matter where i am even at intersections during the weekdays because i think that as a community were used to very active ped and bike users of our transportation system but i don't think that's at the forefront of visitors to our community's mind so it would be nice to have targeted messaging towards visitors that kind of just heightens to them the importance of what an active pedestrian and bicycle and potentially scooter oriented community we are and just to kind of put that at the forefront of their their minds  i also wanted to show my support for the idea of kind of providing equitable reporting statistics no matter how a life is lost or endangered the reason for that doesn't matter every life matters just the same as you point out in your core principles and that should be equally acknowledged and prioritized and funded so definitely supportive of that and then the final thing i would end on is just that i sum in line with some of the public comment received tonight i would be supportive of whatever the city's decides related to scooters and bikes and kind of shared mobility over all that it certainly be consistent with the vision zero strategy i think that would be poor form to adopt a strategy and immediately ignore it so i believe ed has been patiently waiting rare difficult to follow very well spoken points i am so appreciative of the city and approach here particularly even within specific projects already seeing the public works mindset and approach towards projects i really do you this is not just you know this is not just talk i you know having the privilege of getting to see mister bailey approaching some of these some of these chronic problems and the mindset and the approach shifting i think that you all are doing this right so i'm very appreciative of this shift which has gone through various iterations within public works i am thrilled that the police department is set to present collision data when they present public safety information public safety it's great i'm really looking forward to thereby in envision zero continuing to grow and also the team approach a vision zero you know planning public works public health community members kind of like a whatever law and order nc is you know really kind getting at it right in any time there's like like a post mortem okay you know cracking the case you know how could this really have been prevented and and one of the shifts that i would like to see you know me and i'm gonna have to get a little nit picky so here are some specific one of those approaches i'd like to see our how office of traffic safety grants are approached by the police department i would really like to see no further office of traffic safety grants  go forward unless the collaboration collaborative group really feels good about the approach and it's not just you know last minute grant that maybe pd was able to get because this the  it feels to many members of this community that the methodology isn't fully sussed out and that it was just an opportunity and that they can nominally say yes we're improving public safety and i think that this approach and a better inter interdepartmental group you know work product for all of the elements related to vision zero can help change that as as miss blackerby pointed out there's there's a there's a problem there that's something that needs to be right and specifically and again i'm in nitpicky world here but state street right we're you know last week you know this marathon session we're talking about state street yep we certainly as as you mentioned in terms of vision zero we wouldn't want no pedestrians on state street we wouldn't want no bicyclists on state street that's one way to solve you know to address vision zero but that's clearly not something that we're going to do and in fact we want more people walking on c street want more people biking on state street if i had my druthers i would like people to be able to skateboard not on the sidewalk but on the street and there are ways that in fact have been are you discussed yeah we can solve problems like this sign by reducing turn movements through structural changes that could actually better facilitate vision zero goals and goals like bike share or even if it's  scooters for state street so i appreciate the thinking and i think that we can get beyond signage which even the sign could be improved for sure but there's still people turning left in the middle of the day every single day that caused conflicts and you know there's certain things that actually i'd love the opportunity is to work with with your with the staff you left turn movements is something i've learned from you all that's a major conflict point finding ways that we can reduce that  so i guess you know in in some i really appreciate the tak that the city is making i do want to say one more thing about data and statistics actually i'll say two more things but so on data and statistics  really appreciate folks like doctor dan coming in and taking a different perspective on the data and it's not that one data set is necessarily fatally flawed and another data set is is more correct it's that there are different ways to look at the problem and we have to continue to look at these problems with different ways and take a skeptical approach and i think we are so blessed in this community to have experts like on the this community and in the room that can help challenge us and hopefully we can find a more formalized way to integrate in to the group that might actually you know post mortem look at collisions  lastly you know again to that topic of should we try to be more restrictive about bikes and peds and potential for scooters i think things like that are within our control like you're alluding to mister dayton about speed and are there you know key connections with helmets absolutely anything that's within our control we need to do but what's outside of our control or perhaps involved in in two crashes one quite severe however for every moment that you bike you actually for every hour you extend your average healthy expected lifespan by over an hour you know we are sedentary people unfortunately and we need movement and you know addressing other public health issues are something that active transportation like walking or biking can help address so even with all the collisions like mister miss scott pointed out very legitimate but just having a more active populace the health benefits actually override the deleterious effects of those collisions so putting everything you know in in context is really important so so anyway i just i want to appreciate this community and this work so thank  commented on on this and the need for corridor and traffic volume but i also mapped the presentation the city council  the sequence of activities i'm assuming the ones that are higher in the list are more important than ones lower in the list it doesn't match the sequence of these in other words these the highest one on on this chart is state street and it's nine ninth in the report in other words your action plans or have a sequence and you know it just seems out of out of line well there's a simple solution we'll just put them in order there are twenty three on this chart k you i did want to address the no left turn sign which is vexing to many cyclists anyway and i actually pulled up a picture which i'm happy to share with anyone after that i took of in san truck i may agree or disagree with some of those for called out but it does it does show that it's a it's either people on bikes or people who in theory are professional drivers who are held to a higher standard then say any tom dick or harry behind the wheel of a car and so i'm you know there's just one thing to think about if we if we go in that direction to edit that kind of thing there's certainly other places that have dealt with that in different ways that maybe there's a either higher level of expectation of who may make that left hand turn or a last december is there a plan to publish a revised resolution for public coming i know the resolution sets the policy and there's no need to revise you i'd be happy to make the motion please um i would move that we exactly right that the committee recommends that council adopt the santa barbara vision zero strategy two thousand and thirty second this document to city council is that right okay fair enough okay everybody in favor aye aye aye all in favor yay thank you very much okay now we're going to hear about the car share update so i'd like to evening madam chair so this is a an update on the implementation of the city's car share ordinance so the car share ordinance was adopted by city council in last year zip zip car has gone through a lot of changes over over the past several years the market landscape has changed dramatically over this  time your committee urged us to to work with zipcar on their marketing we've been disappointed in zip cars marketing  there's been little interest on unzipped cars part and you can see by attachment to the usage over over this time period so zip car started in in march tw seventeen they have a five year contract with a city until two thousand and twenty two the usage data is shown in attachment to initially there were ten locations  required of zip car zipcar was required to have ten locations for six months and our contract was zipcar allows either party to reduce or eliminate cars over time too so just to speak to their usage data according to the zipcar representative to break even on any car they need forty percent usage so the percentage usage is just when it's when it's used over time so as an indicator five percent usage is about an average of one hour a day a month that's five percent usage  zipcar only hit the forty percent mark once in july two thousand and seventeen there there was a large initial effort there were discount discounted rides or free rides given to the community there was a ribbon cutting zipcar was very present during that time and in restructuring it's been it's been clear from our interactions with zipcar staff that their focus is on larger markets so them looking at the data they they are reducing their fleet on our streets and in our garages to two cars so  we're the cars that are left are so ledee lavina and then city lot six which is granada garage and even even those cars haven't haven't hit their utilization mark  zipcard so they're they're committed to retain some presence locally the good news is our contract with zipcar is non exclusive the locations are exclusive and there's other opportunities deas for car share in santa barbara so we did reach out to sb car share which responded to our initial request for proposals they do have interest in incoming on street  into our garages so we will be talking to them the other opportunities include our our zoning ordinance allows for car share on multifamily properties so apartments can switch out parking spaces for car share there's a limited percentage mixed use projects non residential so ca property they wouldn't be subject to this ordinance or any contract we're also seeing new technology so now there's there's peer to peer there's there's app so you can make your own car available that's not something that's addressed in in our city ordinance so the city ordinance is about exclusive rights for these companies to use sections of curb spaces in our garage so the technology is is allowing for more flexibility in that we haven't been contacted by any car share companies that are interested in in coming we do wa the city to have this opportunity we think there is viability in car share it's been talked about as supportive of our multifamily projects the average  density program so we we are looking into different avenues of making this work so it's a bit of bad news and some hopeful news but i'm available for questions thank you for the update i do have two clarifying questions both related to the zip card usage charts one is i just i still don't quite understand what the percentages are showing by location and by month i'm not sure what the time period  so that the time period is the is the entire month but is it like percent of hours use that month person of days like one time in a day does that count it's its percent percent of the month that it's used so it's percent of time so it's it's time over time okay thank you and then for the two remaining locations where they're their remaining zip cars do we have any statistics on the users of those remaining  vehicles we've requested that information and we've we've offered to zip card you know help and look relocating we had some ideas about relocating cars and what populations might might be interested in those ar opportunities including bike share so with with bike share we would we would be wanting a contract that requires data sharing so so we understand this too because the the city's interests don't always fully align with with the you thank you ten so did you get tasked with this presentation because you're leaving public works i i would say i've volunteered volunteered for this presentation because of the guilt of public works and and for those who don't know i'm i'm moving to long range planning so it's i one of my core principles is not to weep during public hearing so this has been a privilege and and and i'm very proud of the work that that you guys do and and the work we're doing with our streets and can we like make you an honorary member by worse transportation team have that data back in november i didn't ask for it new data because the school year is hasn't started or yeah what kind of percentages were were that they were higher i recall them being in the twenty hmm i was just gonna actually ask when we're just gonna kill zipcar and you answered my question which is well it's almost dead but we're gonna try to revive it and we might actually try to revive it by reducing the required parking for our housing units and the places where they want to do it is right downtown it could be understandable but we're now going to be parking a vehicle in our parking structure whenever it's not in use which then it does not allow someone else to actually park there i have some big issues with having a ud downtown when we have not even gone to diligence and actually implement an ordinance that actually says we are going to charge impact fees and we are going to have inclusionary housing and that's a failure of our mayor and it is a failure of our city council but saying that we're basically going to now have zip cars and that is a great way for our multifamily buildings for something like an aud when we can't even pencil this out for our residents is just i think ridiculous but i didn't actually even come here today to even talk about zipcar but when you started talking about it and i saw it actually was on the agenda i thought maybe i would just say something about it because i really think we're doing the wrong things for our residents and we're trying to make developers rich and we're not look we don't have our eye on the ball and we should have actually taken zipcar out a long time ago because it's not being used i drove i don't know how many times up and down memphis i hardly ever saw that that's a car moved and it's gone now finally but we're just trying to you know get get a horse to water and we can't we can't make people use these things and so the only way you're going to make them use them is take away the parking for the housing and then force them to use it that way that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me thank you thank you and committee i do agree with one point that has got made that i think zipcar is now an obsolete model when it first came into the scene and sorry to clarify i'm the program director with coast um but when it first came on the scene  there was a different world you know and then ride hailing became you know big deal uber and lyft and so i think that kind of took away some of the market  quite a bit since zipcar came around and you know i can't say that i know the technical knowledge of what would attract you know certain car share vendors to santa barbara or not but to look into seeing you know if there's any viability for you know some of these companies that don't i keep using this term but you know instead of docked car share if there is any viability its using car share models where they can be parked anywhere around town similar to other shared mobility options you know one example is car to go and also you know maybe the city can also you know promote some of these peer to peer car sharing options that are coming around because a fact is that cars are parked ninety five percent of the time so i think it's a win win you know car owners can make a little extra money and also make sure that you know cars are utilized a little bit more and i feel like there's a lot of overlap with this with you know any conversation about shared mobility but also taking a consideration kind of equity options and you know doing a better job of marketing especially to groups that don't own cars because they either you know can't for them you know low income but i also like the opportunity to  incorporate this into multifamily development you know companies like envoy which provide car sharing as an amenity and i don't know you know similar to the other ordinances that are being created for scooters and bicycles maybe have more of a piloted approach and give it a fixed timeframe to revisit if you want to continue the contracts the honestly i don't know what the contract was with zipcar if that was you know a fixed time period but since this technology is developing so rapidly i think it would be good to be able to to have the ability to revisit it terminate contracts companies come and go so i think it would  in the best benefit and lastly or a couple more points data sharing importance and making sure that whoever you partner with is going to provide good data and i'd also maybe talk to local hotels and see what their interest is with this as well to you know market that to people that are seeing in the hotel if they choose to come to santa barbara without a car  but i am really excited i you know see the zip cars going out is opening more doors for other options so it's it's a good time in the transportation world thank you for your comments  well this was not an action item do we have any more discussion about this report bringing us back to us and is it is really disappointing and i think the biggest for me the biggest disappointment is you know i went to the ribbon cutting i was really excited i signed up whatever it was a cheap deal at earth day last year unfortunately i i reached my membership and then you know a few weeks later noticed where'd all the cars go and and to be honest i didn't i didn't use it but i was like i want to support this i think it is good and if i didn't have my own car and i'm hope someday to fully shed it it would be a big part of my world but this is definitely a cautionary tale and i think you know it was a new space for the city when you moved into this contract but again and all the all these agenda items are really linked in the like we bring private industry into our city to provide some kind of transportation you know component they have their goals we have our goals sometimes they match sometimes they don't the marketing thing i think they really just left us high and dry they cut the ribbon and took off and after earth day didn't hear a single thing you saw the cars but that's it and so that worries me about all the sharing going on or planned that companies come and go also they could be responsive in marketing things they could be responsive responsive and safety rebalancing whatever and they can be non responsive and all these things and so hopefully we're going wide open into any other kind of sharing rfp or permitting or whatever we do with this and we'll remember don't let it turn out like zipcar did but i do think there still is some space for this and and hopefully we can we can figure that out but obviously things are changing and they're not gonna be participating it seems like and it's unfortunate it's a five year contract  i'm curious about the rental agreement is part of this overall plan does it allow them to give up the spaces and therefore not pay the city thank you last time around i'm gonna do the same thing and unfortunately i can't chase you out to a long range planning but here's the thing you know for the county we have  transportation demand management which we do and there's traffic solutions as transportation demand management she's mostly employer based we have a robust parking system and we have great transportation work and programs but what we don't have and we have residential parking programs but what we don't have is parking demand management which is kind of crazy considering how every single housing any development ever it's like parking parking parking parking because people because in the i'm a downtown denizen downtown is impacted for parking and was it was it written in the city charter that every city resident gets parking at their house and wherever they're going whenever they're going me maybe was maybe wasn't i can't be sure but but the problem is that people expect that and when that expectation can't be met there's a lot of frustration and i believe that it actually is one of the biggest barriers to our housing problem to building more sufficient housings is the parking problem and so you know that's it the the the selling line for this program was that every one of these cars in use prevents the need for twenty residents to have their own car on the street and at you know maybe it's the forty percent or whatever is that kind of key use it's true  i went the last three years without a car that was a car that was not on the street because i was tired of parking on the street and i biked pretty much seven days a week didn't really need it and i used the program i used to program like twice right which was it was nice to have but what was so surprising is how few people knew about it and the thing is for multimodal transportation which especially for downtown residents and when you look at all the charts of where downtown residents work most of them work downtown even if that's downtown goleta but for down you're there in downtown galena they want people who choose to live in the more expensive more constrained environments tend to live there because they work there but yet we're just like there's something missing and this was a piece of the puzzle this was a tool in the toolbox and unfortunately it's it's fallen to some level of disuse so i'm not gonna blame  and i'm not gonna blame the city staff but i am gonna point out that i think that we're kind of missing an opportunity we invest so much resource into maintaining the parking structure system and yet we don't really have a demand management approach and so if there's one you know gain hopefully that we can we can shift and and begin that somehow between transportation and downtown parking because here is a tool it didn't achieve what it needs it to do and i have plenty of opinions about that but moving forward we do need to do something to give residents more choice so that there are less cars sitting unused on the street all day long well is that the that might be the final word on on that point and well taken thank you very much all right shall we move along to the bike share update sure absolutely so this is where i was gonna make the announcement of dan leaving and thank you very much i think it worked out well thanks committee member of france for you surfing seems like every time we have a meeting someone leaves i hope we don't have to discontinue our meetings for that reason but since the last person left at the last meeting we have a new mobility coordinator his name is sam fourtner and so we're gonna welcome him and give him an opportunity to present to you for the first time but we're very pleased about him we had a broad outreach process and we included a lot of our partners in the decision that we'll be dealing with okay i would just like to kind of reiterate rob's comment that i'm very happy to be here as well this is a really unique opportunity to work with a really dynamic team in a very rapidly changing field and i don't feel like i could have found a better fit so i'm happy to be here and to meet all of you tonight those of you that i don't know and i'm also pleased that  the discussion this evening has really set us off well for what we're going to talk about now like shares a really multifaceted thing and what i'm coming to you with tonight is more of a high level recommendation as far as pitfalls to look out for moving forward thinking about designing an effective bike share ordinance for the city of santa barbara so right now we're in kind of an environment that is that has been shaped by our past the two thousand and eleven circulation element of the general plan actually stated that the city should promote and provide shared cost personal transportation  bike share the twenty two thousand and sixteen bike master plan also maintains that bike share can be a convenient cost effective and healthy way to make short trips and to bridge the first last mile between public transportation and final destinations so looking at how history has shaped policy here in santa barbara it's really interesting to point out that we're go see some real change happening in the very near future hopper is a bike share company that will be launching at ucsb hopefully by the end of august and just to put this out there but  students are gonna be renting these on campus and will definitely be taking them to isla vista and goleta and i think that opera is kind of setting the stage for regional usage and also introducing the idea of regional bike share here in the south coast hopper will be rolling out several different types of bikes through their pilot program ucsb and with that i'd like to get into a little bit more about the two main bike share systems that we see in effect currently there are our two systems as i mentioned docked system which you can see a photo of here and generally involve a larger rack that can accommodate a large number of bikes as well as an information placard or some kind of a poster that describes the process of renting a bike in addition to an electronic payment  kiosk where you actually check the bike out to start your ride there are some drawbacks to a dock system namely that it involves really significant infrastructure requirements especially at the beginning implementation because of these infrastructure requirements it can be quite expensive there have been some estimates that recommend that to have an effective docked bike share system you need to have a station every thousand feet so because of that as well doctor bike share can be quite inconvenient because you are limited to the locations where these stations are based if a station is not outside your work you need to return the bike and then walk to your work so what we see now kind of in response to this dock system is the emergence of a doclist system and these are essentially free floating bicycles that do not need to be returned to a designated rack they are genuinely gps enabled and there's been a there's been a really high demand for this technology and a lot of shared mobility  including scooters and and dhoklas bike share some of the benefits of this type of system is that you can you can literally check this bike out wherever it might be if it's in a certain area and it's on the sidewalk where it should be parked in the furniture zone out of the right of way then it's wide open for you to check it out the moment you unlock the bike with your smartphone and it releases that actual mechanism through the wheel you've rented it and it's yours until you take it to your final destination at your final destination you simply close your app or sign out of it and your rental period ends so it's really effective for short trips and and last mile transit  additionally because of the amount of competition happening right now in the lack of real infrastructure requirements for this application a lot of companies are offering dogless bike share for low or no cost to cities so the entry price point is a lot lower with d so some of the challenges of a doclet system our that it's can be difficult to control honestly there's been a lot of blowback on the kind of doclets bike share nightmare and we see it with scooters as well but what we have here on the right is a photo of dallas bike share and i think you can see that there definite right of way issues happening and there's a huge pile of abandoned perhaps or knocked over bicycles so a lot of this involves user interface which is really difficult to control so and we see that it can indeed you know block paths of travel so with these kind of ideas in mind we wanted to think about shaping and ordinance that would address some of these really key issues and we'll definitely be going into detail more on these but i wanted to just introduce what we've been  considering firstly as i mentioned sidewalk nuisance i think it's important that a vendor should address these nuisances or or damaged bicycles even in a really prompt fashion we've seen this with scooter share elsewhere bike share indeed  poorly parked bicycles may block sidewalks or entryway as i mentioned and this can in fact limit or prevent ada access which is a huge issue so we need to see prompt response times additionally and related to that we need to see vendor responsibility demonstrated we need to be able to hold our permitted vendor accountable for their actions and to some extent as possible the actions of their users as especially in relation to  sidewalk nuisance and poor parking and one thing that we'd really like to see under vendor responsibilities is is that we start this program with a small scale and a short term a pilot permit and the idea behind this is if a vendor not being responsible and they're not holding up their part of the deal then at the end of that permit it just doesn't renew and we can move forward accordingly additional considerations are data accessibility which has been mentioned several times here tonight we really want to ensure that the city has timely access to data mainly we're looking at user data which can can give us trends and behaviors of where customers are taking these rented bikes and this in turn can help us figure out the ideal and sighting locations for these bikes and where they'll be best used and and how they're getting used as well that being said we also want to ensure that customers that are renting these bikes feel that their their privacy is being respected and their security as well so most data that is provided from bike share is anonymized so you don't actually know the user name you just see lines on  essentially another big issue is equity that we want to focus on we need to see a bike share vendor that can ensure access for disadvantaged communities and some cities throughout the states have actually implemented a a percentile that a bike share companies to maintain of their fleet in identified disadvantaged communities just to keep access for those people that might be underserved  otherwise and similarly along that line we need to the the vendor needs to be able to provide options for low income individuals unbanked individuals or those without access to smartphones to ensure that they can also you know utilize these services in their neighborhood so another couple things and i promise there's only a few more but i marketing which i think is relevant in a city like santa barbara we need to work to minimize the esthetic impacts of marketing and certainly to to ensure consistency with the look and the feel of santa barbara availability is another thing to discuss we need to make sure that our vendor can provide sufficient numbers and effective rebalancing rebalancing i just mean simply collecting bikes at the end of the night and redistributing them to the locations where they will be of most service throughout the next day and as i said this relates to traffic locations transit hubs where you know these bikes is a last mile solution are go especially important and also the previously mentioned disadvantaged communities that has definitely surfaced this evening is is safety and we need to do whatever we can to ensure that our vendor is is really doing what they can to provide the education and the safety and and lawful operation guidance to their customers a part of that is maintaining the bike fleet and safe working condition and another part of that is actually encouraging and incentivizing safe rider forward with bike share in the city of santa barbara i think the next step is to work with the city attorney local advocacy groups and certainly downtown business owners and just business owners throughout the city to develop effective bike share ordinance that can address these key issues thought i'd just like to open it up to you comments or questions and say thank you i'd like to open with a little question just on a practical level if i wanted to  open a bike and go to three or four stores and maybe buy a couple of things do i have to have my own bike lock to in between i mean if i check it out that's a good question so it depends on the type of technology that's being used with a lot of systems and i won't say all but a lot of doclets bike shares they actually have a built in wheel lock which you can see in that photo on the left so essentially and this is the tricky thing with shared mobility per your example if you were to check this bike out on the street take it with you to a grocery store and then just had to go in the store and do your errands if you lock the bike by signing out of the app it becomes available meaning that somebody else walking down the street a block away will look at their phone and see that bike is being available and they can then rent it and we have seen people doing things to to kind of foil this we're in like they they will hide a bike in a certain area or people have been very inventive with this but so that is a limitation certainly and hopefully that is addressed by having a sustainable number of bicycles accessible so that even if you came out of the store and your bike was gone there was another one a block away first excellent presentation and welcome excited to work with you and my question is i didn't quite understand the relationship between the staff report and your presentation focused on bicycle share and the attachment that was predominantly focused on scooters is this separate are they related are you integrating the two or they're being treated separately perfect i'm really glad you asked that question and it's something that we foresaw definitely going into this and  think i would just like to say that what we're looking at here especially is an example of doclets utility and dhoklas shared mobility which has a tremendous amount of similarity to what we're gonna see in scooter share for right now scooter share and we're trying to focus on implementation of effective bike share here in santa barbara that being said i think there are a lot of parallels between the two and i think that any ordinance that we come up with for for bike share specifically is going to have a lot of the same tenants of an ordinance for scooter share or a permit for scooter share if that happens we're seeing a real dramatic evolution in shared mobility and it's happening very quickly and so to my way of thinking having an adaptable trial period for this and just kind of see what happens and how this technology can actually work here in the city is the first step to even understanding what what the future of shared mobility is going to be here did i answer your question or do you need further i can't there's a little bit more clarification another way to say what sam saying is we have bike share in the plan in the circulation element so we've been moving forward with it been doing it in different ways primarily with the lead of the coalition and a bunch of stakeholders who have come along with the contractor ucsb that's how we've been doing the rollout in the midst of that we had some the imminent possibility of a rogue scooter launch and decided to go with emergency ordinance that dictated rules and regulations where whereby companies would be vetted require certain requirements would be made and then selected so because of that advent we decided that the best approach would be to have bike share in the ordinance as well and and and implement bike share along the same lines where we're saying here's the ordinance here's the rules and regulations here's here's how we expect companies to to behave and but but still there are similar issues okay thank you and one more follow question for either of you um will bike share allow the use of electrically powered bikes or is it only human p that's a good question right now i can tell you what is happening at ucsb wherein they're going to start with three speed pedal driven bicycles and they do have plans to phase in some electric assist bicycles as well we haven't gotten to that point yet where we're gonna figure out what's going to happen as far as electric assist here instead of our but i think that would be an informative thing to see how it part of the reason for that is it's a bit of a moving target bikes have different element requirements than do scooters and hopefully rob can break that down for you a little bit i'll tell you if you want to know about scooters i think i told you in a different presentation but we're just to focus on the bike share by a person who rides a bike is required to have a helmet if there's sixteen or under but there is no requirement above that age scooters what's the rule yes we do yeah you you are required to have a helmet if you're riding the scooter okay then electric bike so there's a class distinction for electric bikes where in below a certain mile per hour range you're not required and it's still classified as a bicycle essentially and above a certain mile per hour range you are required to wear helmet so that's the kind of thing that i don't think that hopper will be releasing those egsb but we don't know at this point so i think that there's a lot more regulatory difficulty in implementing something like that  with with a higher speed some electric assist bicycles can go almost thirty miles an hour so if i understand you correctly you're assuming that the ucsb bikes are gonna be the lower in miles per hour once at least at first you're hoping yeah that's that's my impression from speaking with representatives from from cycle up as well as staff ucsb okay thank you we have any more clarifying questions we can get some will be getting three hundred bikes hopefully by the end of august and then another three hundred right before the quarter starts on september th and ultimately  a good bit more in january these bikes are going to be doclist but they are going to have a specific location where they need to be so they're going to work these bikes into  infrastructure they will not be adding new bike racks on campus so effectively they're dhoklas but they're going to have to integrate into bike racks on campus  welcome okay i think we might be ready for some public comment so let's cut to the chase you're gonna have more bikes you're gonna have more accidents because you and you are gonna have people writing without helmets it's it's a fact and you just actually it looked at vision zero unless you require helmets you will experience that absolutely the cost someone was saying something about the cost for a doc system i believe it was council member friedman who started doing the numbers when he was trying to figure out a dollar ride this much a minute these are how many bikes scooters we're talking scooters people were using over the course of a few days do you know what he calculated it was over a million dollars in revenue and people were excuse my french bitching about a five thousand dollars permit and now we're saying we're gonna give the public right away you won't have to actually put your bicycle and attach it to anything you're just gonna leave it wherever it is and you get to walk away it's ridiculous if you're going to have programs like this don't leave them on the sidewalk you have people that have mobility problems you have people that have vision problems these things are gonna fall down and they will hurt someone someone will trip over them and my question is what is the responsibility and liability of the city when you have now permitted this and you're not charging to actually put these things on the sidewalk it's ridiculous you should be putting this all in the parking structures if you're gonna actually do this and i'm sorry the last mile if everyone is really upset about how overweight and how how people are worried about fitness levels i'm lyle takes fifteen minutes maybe twenty to walk people can walk they have two legs for the most part and they are mobile enough to actually go from point a to point b but we are trying to actually put all of these other things on the roads and we're not thinking about the traffic issues our infrastructure issues our liability and we are not thinking about the residents who are gonna have to deal with these things you saw that particular corner in dallas imagine the bowl imagine earth day imagine fiesta and enforcement you gotta give me a break our city does not enforce and our police officers at a hundred and seventy five dollars an hour we're gonna have them chase after bikes it's ridiculous if you're gonna actually allow something like this you might actually start some other type of a program but not the one that you guys are talking about right now helmets are really needed and data short sharing these companies don't like to share data so if you need to find out information about an accident for the police or an injury how are we going to get the data and we don't even have any best practices no analysis about what other cities that look like santa barbara do what has worked in what has failed with the scooters or necessarily this if you guys really really want to have a good ordinance that type of due diligence has to get done first before you try to throw something like a you know a mocked up version of an ordinance for the scooters up for everyone to review and rebalancing for you guys to have rebalancing which san francisco requires every hour they have to have people on the ground if someone like the scooter people were actually paying a few people salaries it might actually help us you know manage what's go happen but can you imagine a complaint driven system where your residents are gonna have to call up and say there's a bicycle that's laying down on state street it's at the corner of and state or they gonna call up someone else how are they even gonna manage it they won't be able to manage it and you will find twenty bikes somewhere piled up in a corner because no one's required to return them to a particular space and they just leave them like at the bus stop those are all things that you need to think about thank you coffin with coast again i'm really excited to see this moving along i think this is a great opportunity i want to speak to some things that are just i think should be taken in consideration not just with bike share about shared mobility in general that might have not been addressed and the pretty comprehensive list that was put together and presented today by stuff so i just want to speak on the next level beyond availability and some considerations to take or to think about in the future a lot of share nobility options are moving towards what they're calling platform ization and so it's fully integrating you know all the different shared mobility options into each other and also with transit to really make it simpler and more convenient for the user and you know bigger conversation to be happening down the line but i think that whoever the vendor is going to be should show some demonstrated ability to really work closely with government in preparation for that because you know things are changing rapidly but we should think down the line  you know what direction we should be heading with with all of this but i enthusiastically look forward to seeing the bytes out there sooner than later thank you very much frank peters haven't been here even two years i came from portland oregon where i was an early adopter with their bike share i called him the green bikes but the city called him nike it branded them so that was definitely the old model they just beautiful system porting to portlanders maybe they feel a little underdog you know being up there in portland i don't know they love to brag and they were bragging in less than ninety days they had like a million miles on their bike share cheese so is that successful i think wildly successful and they continue to do that they were running promotions this summer and just continued to break records one of the things i observed seeing was remember they were all docked by they took the bike coalition up there last september for a five day tour of the city to meet people first thing we did was take it all morning on their bike share system buy their bike share people and they had expanded the you know the original footprint was one size but people liked it so much it was expanding beyond the footprint where they had put docks so that was how dhoklas bike share kind of evolved into portland the bicycle could be locked to a street post or a street sign something like that but if you did that so if you went out of the footprint that charged you two dollars however if somebody came along you know five minutes later unlocked the bike and wrote it back into the footprint area they would earn a dollar so isn't that of clever and simple and you know seemed to work out perhaps i'll wrap up with i've been to amsterdam a number of times and one time i did a whole photo shoot of you know all the everybody's on bicycles it wasn't until i got home a big question in my mind was did i see a single person wearing a helmet my intuition was i don't think i did but there's one picture i can't tell if that's a helmet it's a child so lots of children you know dads with kids in their arms and bicycles  so you know it seems to work in a society there where everybody is riding a bike and that i think is the goal of bikes you here to get more people you know there are comments in here and in sam's presentation about like bad behavior people park the bike drop the bike off in the wrong place we will have that problem i don't know you know being a business man i don't know if you know you can expect satisfaction from trying to like punish the vendor i don't know if you're gonna find satisfaction doing that but over time i believe like in societies like in copenhagen and amsterdam better behaviors evolve and people learn how to ride and they don't need helmets for it to be a success thank you thank you very much and  madam chairman and members thank you again my biggest concern that was just mentioned was safety and independent mobility for people with disabilities and the elderly we just heard that everyone drives bikes in europe did you see any blind people driving bikes did you see people in wheelchairs revving bikes did you see grandmas an eighty riding bikes no the everyone you see are the people who are young and fit which is fine but who are you gonna cover but my biggest fear is the sidewalk blockage if you can chum so i'm not against bicycles at all in fact yet i've been here twenty four years and never had a car i'm a ped and a biker okay so i'm not against bicycles i'm against people  think about this the best thing about all the bike thieves in town people lock their bikes to a bike rack so they're not in the middle of state street sidewalks this thing has no way to keep you from parking anyplace and that's our biggest fear blind people wheelchair users people the epilepsy bed hearts they're not gonna be able to go around and around bikes that picture of dallas i'm glad you showed it i've seen those pictures all over the country that's what all that's my biggest fear is the safety of our sidewalks we have a pedestrian master plan which calls for certain widths on sidewalks you guys have the circulation plan we have the zero but if you do this at all please make sure doorway that's not enough now a lot of places have what's called geofencing where you can just have a certain area on the street or you could use one parking lane on each block where the or at least you have a little gio's coated place where you have to leave your bikes it could be on every block it could be to a block and my other problem is when i read from your stuff today was about there was nothing about rebalancing in what i read now maybe it's there now of this i come from enter a to santa barbara i trust there's gonna be a bicycle there at the station i take it up to let's say mission and state street i got out of work i got twenty minutes to catch my train there's no bike around okay without rebalancing people are not gonna trust these things so they've got to be rebalanced as she said santa barbara san francisco's every hour we need to address that because if that bike isn't ready when i want to catch my train i'm not gonna do that anymore and the last thing i want to say is about equity besides being kind of against the disabled i was at ucsb for many years everyone that brought a bike there could afford were fifty bucks or a hundred if you want to buy used one i'm thinking about who the heck is rich enough these kids that can rent a bicycle every day to drive from ivy to campus or from glee to campus it's daddy's money it's not people like i was who had just scrape and save i would buy a fifty buck bike okay and it would last me for years or something but if you could afford to ride a bike i mean really at how many people who bike here in town every day don't own the bike so i know it's good for tourists or for transit but i don't see how many people who ride bikes every day would want to rent one everyday so i'll stop now but please make sure the sidewalks are clear and there's some kind of law that says you cannot block this and vandalism bikes will be taken care of the same thing with scooters a lot of people throwing them in the ocean put them in trash cans who's responsible to pick them up and as anna marie said who's responsible for any accidents caused by this we are giving away free public taxpayer space if your restaurant and wants to have outdoor seating you have to pay a fee to use the public right away somehow the scooter guys come in with two hundred and fifty million dollars in their pocket and just accept that we're gonna write an ordinance for them and then the backs come in but who's gonna pay for that sidewalk that i used to pay for and now someone else is putting their money making stuff there so to me those are some equity question sam for your presentation and i know that you are doing your due diligence and looking at best practices you know i'm a little over the years that this has been a thing we've talked about i'm like we're kind of behind the times right but now i'm pretty glad we were because there's so many like disasters when it comes to this in other cities a scooter or bike that we're learning from and it's not gonna be perfect if we do it but i'm glad and i know that you're you're looking into that because why reinvent the wheel and and and make the same mistakes that are made other places and it really is changing so quickly and so i know that we'll learn from all of that  i in the i don't know past sixth or eight months have served on the ucsb bike share committee as they've been selecting a vendor and rolling it out and and i'm glad that you're working directly with them because we have a lot to learn from them they're still learning right things have been delayed and everything but they had a very deliberative process just this wasn't in the presentation but they did an rfp saying show us what you got we don't want to pay money for it and you know there's a there's a bunch of different it's a very it's a it's a uc contract so if you're familiar with those they're very long and very thorough and they take a long time to be executed for good reason in this case and so you know they were very deliberative and in choosing hopper which was cycle hop now hopper and and rb and are extracting quite a bit from them to give them the privilege of operating on campus and then geofencing very important crucial to me that's a deal breaker if we don't have that rebalancing is happens with every bike share system so i don't think we need to worry about i mean we need to be very specific about what we require but it's going to going to happen for me when people are saying we're just giving free public right of way for these things i should certainly hope not and that both for what costs enforcement and and just to take up public space i mean to me would be absolutely unacceptable i would never vote for an ordinance that didn't extract the true cost of using the public right of way we do it for we charge zipcard right or whoever if you want to rent a space or block off a space on the city street for car parking you pay someone came up with a formula for what that cost we're in a city lot you pay so absolutely you should do it for the sidewalk i've used bike share in two cities vancouver which is docked and sacramento had a this was a couple years ago they had a pilot that was sort of semi docked between sacramento and west sacramento i had good experiences in both and actually to the helmut question vancouver was docked and in british columbia it's the law that you wear a helmet  bike no matter your age and they actually have helmets with each one they walk through and they have little helmet kind of like hair net type things that you get out of a little bin to use then i did and i always wear a helmet when i ride a bike and so i was i felt much more comfortable with that so that is possible i don't i know we're going on dock so it's not really that feasible here but it has happened i mean people wear them i've also been to san diego where i think it's not quite the level of disaster of dallas but i remember seeing maybe five different vendors of both scooters and bikes there littered everywhere trip hazard galore a mess looks gross honestly and i didn't actually see that many people riding him not saying it doesn't happen but it was mess and actually i didn't see it was sort of in the  p district and didn't really see regular human beings on their personal bikes which i was like that to me is kind of a canary in the coal mine if like there aren't just regular people on their own bikes i don't know why we're gonna expect people to get on so we don't have that problem here because we have quite a bit of cycling but i hope that we learned from from those things i would like to see something that's a regional system that ties in to me when i go to a city where there's you know like some of the cities or in san diego and i see five different companies i have like paralysis because i go i don't know which one am i gonna comparison shop and download all these apps and see which works best and where they have them we're just like forget it i'll just walk or take the bus so to me narrowing it down to one or two vendors is is important i think having more than one but having to be it for scooter or bike share you get a little bit of the competition and you know we can do that as far as using on street space for parking these that's something they're looking at in isla vista kind of a bike corral type thing we have precedent for bike crowds in our city i would always love to see more and this might be a solution for a place that we put them because even though we say well we'd keep them in the furnitures on the furniture zone it's kind impacted as it is i know there's been some bench removals which is you know of questionable yeah i don't love it i don't love the removal of benches but it's hard enough to find bike parking for your regular bike and if this is gonna be leaning up against every hitching post that's already hard to get a bike on you know what is that doing for a residence you who do you have their bikes um but the safety thing and accessibility is number one for me and also making sure that we're not just giving up public good for people to make money off of so and as for the transit hubs please do moving forward work with your transit  district to talk about what might work best talking about stop usage and and good connections for that  that was very thorough thank you i think i echo everything that she said and and just wanted to add a few other items for consideration one i already  one is under the kind of vendor operations and responsibilities section i'm also thinking about the what happens to the bikes if a vendor leaves i know that that's been a concern in other cities that they just get left and they either end up in a landfill or maybe parts of them are recycled or they go to a for profit company that resells them so maybe thinking theorum whether whether there could be some partnerships with bc centro or sp bike something along those lines for use under marketing i think just kind of a good rule of thumb for any new mobility options offered in santa barbara city it would be really nice to work with large area employers to see if we the city can play a role facilitating some reduced rates for their employees to encourage alternatives to driving alone to and from work  you know i think in terms of the the last i would say several mile connection being mindful in particular about providing that linkage between the train station mpd's bus stations and work sites that aren't currently served by mtd or another transit provider and really focusing your efforts there and then to the extent that you do consider allowing electrically powered bicycles or scooters i just encourage you to really work closely with a lil apparent oh and her team within the city to look at the charging capacity needs and making sure that you're having early somebody knows more about it that picks up shopping carts often from bus stops and returns them to the of the owners and you know seems to work who does it rodriguez great discussion i'm so glad we're having it officially i'm gonna focus my comments on bike share and maybe mentioned something about scooter later appreciate all the  public discussion i definitely wanted to appreciate comments miss scott i couldn't agree with you more about the need for racks i think something that the city is going to have to do or a vendor or some type of combination is look at improving and increasing bike rack capacity in order to come from this program for organization so as not to compete with people who have personally owned bikes and perhaps actually looking at you know let's not jump to conclusions that a system would just be undocked bikes there may be very appropriate spaces and roll for a docked area especially for people who don't have the smart phones or credit cards or whatever you can't just interact with the undocked bikes also there's kind of a little bit of a lingo of sort of a the undocked but locked i've locked it to something like some fixed thing so they're not just like you know the bike isn't you're not done until the bike is locked and in the case of these bikes in portland you know locked with the physical kind of you lock that engaged the bike so there's there's different ways and i think it all it really comes to actually what miss kauffman was talking about about demonstrated ability in the vendor santa barbara is a jewel we all love it dearly and some like fly by night operation used to all this stuff being subsidized right car share was subsidized bike share has been subsidized since leone and paris and copenhagen and here's the thing don't charge them challenge what do we want from them we want a lot we have specifically equity issues well some of that means you're running part of the program at a loss because it's a public good and we're gonna demand it and you're going to comply we're also going to actually probably set parameters to in terms of compatibility with existing use like long term bike rentals right there's some balance there and there's some factor that actually makes it less economic for them to run we're gonna have strict standards for how things are geo fenced how things are balanced the responsiveness to problems and specifically and perhaps most importantly the responsiveness early on in the public planning process that the vendor is actually a partner in going through public process to get this done because they have to have buy in and they have to be part of the hard work of actually prepping and planning a thing you know if the market is such that they can do everything that we want and they can pay us great but let's get what we want first we want bikes in a well maintained well managed safe system and i think that we can get it the point of infrastructure that both miss scott and mister marsden made couldn't agree more here's something i alluded to this earlier but you know state street is going to be a key hub for these i think we need a cycle track on state street i think that there's plenty of options right now where the business community wants creative thinking that could be done for a pilot period of a couple years or shorter and test it on the cycle track wouldn't necessarily rule out vehicles on state street but i buy a lot of real estate and it would get scooters as well but it would get inexperienced cyclists off of the sidewalk which is critical to everybody so i i hope that that can be part of this process and you know not just state street but there's that's a low hanging fruit i think of infrastructure that we do need to address concurrently with with bike share mister marzen also to your point of ucsb i'm sorry that i'm picking on you but it's good you're i mean you're asking all the right that's you know i like to have the deck stacked in my favor but you're bringing the right you bring up the right points and you know in terms of ucsb something that actually miss blackerby pointed in a separate conversation the the way that they're structuring this is really wise so for a student ucsb most of them have bikes i used to work at the aaas bike shop at ucsb and i would see the worst bikes these things are not safe right the chain falls off and you have no brakes are there lights on these bikes oh no you know sir like we're talking about like the bottom of the barrel that are just kind of rolling around and then for sixty dollars a year or for a four year student you know two hundred and forty dollars which you can't go get a crappy bike from kmart for that and i'm not talking about the lights that are built in or the ongoing maintenance so we're talking about bikes that are being maintained safely that there's air in the tires and that there's constantly running lights which has been a thorn in the side of that community just automatically for less than it would have cost you know for that there's the freshman crop about to come to go by you know a lower level bike so i think actually and and that's part of that expectation that the university set they're not getting money but they built into the formula that this would be very cost effective for their students and i think that was very wise and that's that's kind of what i'm getting to there's there's other benefits for the public good that we can extract so let's do it and let's do it right thank you i just have a brief comment actually myself it my comment addresses the parking issue i mean i know we're kind of beating it to death but my husband is an avid bicycle and you know according to ed i think i think he's probably gonna live about one hundred and fifty years which is kind of cool but he bikes all over town and has for forty years in santa barbara and he'll go where there's no bike racks where there's no bike lanes if he wants to get there he's an avid cyclic and what troubles me is i can just just a one simple example but it's gonna be it's multiplied by thousands he likes to go to vaughn at la cumbre it's not gonna be vaughn's much longer but it's a big market and they've never been interested in putting in bike racks and when i met with ask our former person that has it had your position he said you know we talked to them and there's there was no motivation for the owners of vaunts to put in any bike racks so my husband oh and that's just one store so it's like does the city have to pay for those does this bike person this bike company pay for that it you multiply that by all the stores in town and that's that's a huge expense even if they're gonna put in some minimal places so he locks his bike to posts wherever he can find them but a market my gosh what a nice thing if a market if all of our markets had reasonable amount of bike racks so the people could cuz he puts food in his backpack and brings it home because he enjoys biking for us for a small trip instead of dealing with the car so you know that's just one small example but i see it as a really difficult issue because i can see where nobody wants to take responsibility for paying for the bike rack so that's my comment thank you