background is from our guest today paul is who has been in the business for more than three decades he is a wonderful latin jazz percussionist and he plays with  and i'd do anything just to hang out my older brother you know and i started playing the two have fell in love with this stuff and my brothers the one they would always tell me he made this is you know this is the deal he said men this is you he said i'm telling you i'm not going to do what you think i'm going to do you're going to do it and that's what can start my journey now let's talk about percussion because there's so many instances in that family right let's and that came through that i was fortunate enough to study would a brazilian guy by name of douma wow who came here was social menace ok and he explained a lot of their stuff to be true when you adapt to use this when you use when sounds when you use shaking for when you use different bills or color you know and know how to make it go in coinciding music a good question is should  should know all the different elements and styles of music like of latin jazz brazilian african and use it as a spice so when you're playing with someone you may hear certain kind of a groove and say it sounds like music is just everything to you was my life yes and then it also sounds like you feel that music does something for the world oh well yes let's talk about that you know this is the blessing you know you know if you give the service man this partly of our healing yes we're right and you have to look at it in a way of not just be a powerful book in understanding you know that's a very beautiful place to be and the p the techniques and you learned the proper way to play yes and any instrument is very physical with you breathing hitting banging whatever you're doing is physical but if you learn a proper else and deviate to get a kid no that's not what we want go there but anyway so now i watched a video where you were playing once at the shaker a right ok and you were teaching so now i'm like how do i do this i wish i but once i got in the car maybe i was a little nervous you know but once i got in the car i just started singing and i did it in a jazzy way so they felt a little better to me you'd say you got a girl you have your own frame to land where i was i've been very fortunate now you said that when i want to quote you which is that you said i always felt that there was a magic to the number five and i know that we have captured the myth the magic in this recording on the one has been a signature phrase for whenever i sign off it means to me being right on point and focused so you said tunnel vision so the only time i have television event focused and i want to stop for a minute before we go deep into these c d s about the number on some so now you self produce and self publish yes talk about that while ok well you know with today's market where the music industry went in and everything is kind of scattered you don't have really not a lot of what i want to tell them this is this is what you're hearing this with my group and instrumentation usually never really changes right so if you listen to my c d s and we've created and developed the sound you know i've had the same guys playing with me for anywhere from five to ten years which is the same thing the luther did and rock out so do you prefer playing with someone else's group or your own group or now it's me and they're called this one and this is the cover right as time goes by but just the way it started i just you know music brings out different emotions in your absence and when i heard that i almost you know i'm like i'm talking about it now when i'm feeling like i'm tearing up that's what happened when i heard th thoughts and i don't like why i mean first of all you need to cover with yourself and then i'm always thinking i'm thinking when i'm sleeping sometimes i have to say god can you please turn my mind also i think is asleep because it's constantly moving in creating and i know that has to be the same with him  let's go on to another let's want another one so you've been in business for let's say i said over for over three decades so you wouldn't do anything else right if you want your music what would you do three tips that you would get to succeed ok the first thing you have to do whatever you want to do something is if you're going to really be where you commit so you must be committed committed that's the most important thing and by then i mean you've got to really be really be were the really practice practices everything yeah you know a lot of people say that you know that  much for joining us on venus you can find me on venus nine hundred seventy one that's on twitter the us ninety seven underscore on instagram venus could take on facebook and remember come on back to the beach trail next time because you never know what kind of information we're going to have for you it's never too late to live your dreams and when you do i'll 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