still in shock from that reality and the depth of what they bring to us the depth of spirit of commitment of militants and those of you haven't seen that press conference that they did we have some tapes of it and commando made them and i strongly recommend that everybody see it in that press conference was a kind of history that you never hear so you never never hear a fighting group sick and women have gotten sick and died in there because of your diet but because of our beliefs john after when they gave a garbage diet if we had one apple we would take that apple and cut it up and make apple salamander at you and crackers and even though it wasn't was more nourishment in the food they fed us and this is the kind of strength that john after he gave us to be able to live you know and not eat that food and get sick from and that's what we came out looking the way to do the way we a transcendent force in my life we're going to get to you because i don't want to talk a lot it's already two hundred and six and we only have an hour and i want to concentrate on listening as opposed to speaking  and i want to make sure that we speak on delbert and we speak on the media and then we won't forget it later on and run out of time ok right now we're concentrating on what africa because to be a beacon of strength and hope to people and always treat him differently he just had a five year hitch put on him for c n parole and we put a lot of pressure on the system we had people put pressure on the system and because of that pressure they took the five year him off him and he's scheduled to see the parole board in september but we don't want people to relax and let that pressure off because we know how they do d and we don't want people to stop until adulthood is released and home which is why we're not really feeling like this is a celebrating time because until all of our families home we're happy to be home but we don't feel like it's going to be a celebration intil everybody from the move nine is home so we want people to keep that pressure on so that they do not try anything with delbert suzanne i was his proximity to the movie family and then i refrain from calling it the move organization i'll never say that again in my life because it has been experience my experience that move is not just  family but is the family that i always invision myself having and the people that i have met from the organization all represent the person i would like to be i gave you a little piece here and i want to play but he cannot stop talking about their strengths how they have come out and he said i hope i'm not being sexist but they look so beautiful and he is and he talked talked talked about his recollection of them before they went to prison and before he went to remember their confrontation with the states that put them in period from the time they were arrested until he was arrested he had known them very well and he also had  visited them once they were in prison he visited the move people he said he was i can't remember who it was he was visiting as a journalist and he came i think he said eight o'clock in the morning and left at eight o'clock at night until they said listen you don't want to stay in this prison do you because he was so eager once what he saw what happened to move once he was more and more eager to know everything he could learn a everything about john africa and that's kind of what he talked about this time to me because he talked a lot about one of the movement do we have like this now you know  are we have you know i'm eighty two years old i've been active for a long long time and there is nothing resembling this and what move has brought as lessons for the rest of the movement when you say family what what we've all learned and bet the kind of love that permeates some kind of love the show for each other that it's exactly exactly so all of that is again with me use the word the other day and we're very reluctant you know to use the word i use it it's almost magical and i've been obsessed since i saw them and since that press conference that you played and the st understood more about how hard they had to fight one to survive to keep their humanity and to to to share that humanity with the the other sisters in prison what they contributed it's like wherever they go you know  the magic touch my love influences everyone around them and so i can't stop wanting to welcome them that thank you i can't i'm like obsessed with this  that i was blessed to meet them and what rumi a describes in his early stages is learning and seeing what move was doing you learn and being able to try to get the truth rumi doesn't exist is the kind of journalist that doesn't exaggerate i mean you know when i write something i tend to say the greatest and things like that he doesn't say that he's pretty low key and he writes he's very very gifted in his ability to create passion and s communicate that with out embellishing embellishing and he's the truth seeker and he tries to get exactly the truth so i can see how he must have been upset i can see him being in the prison right from eight in the in the movement because people didn't understand move a lot of people missed that every single statement that message that movie would put out and it's long live china africa right me single statement so if you want to save money is not move excuse me because the quality he has a say long live mark so long live you know he loved a lot of the panthers but he never he had great what's right in front of you so you can't love lumia and admire me as so much and not understand his relationship to move on and i snuck in there if you can even understand and it took me a long time to understand and move because i'm a videographer based in new york so i deal with a lot of political organizations that's almost all i deal with movie is unlike anything i i was saying to you before a lot of the telling of the story has got mangled up so we sort of see move the masses of people sort of see mood with two pictures the beautiful young women in search of i'm not sure what you would tell me and all of a sudden the world goes mad because busy they hate you for wanting to  this system through john africa's teaching exposing everything assett of this system this system did not like that because people who actually saw that the system for what it was not what it pretended to be the because the government did not want people to know what was going on what they were actually doing they wanted to keep it covered up or make it look like it was you know just ok so would move start exposing them having demonstrations at the zoo's demonstrations at the police district and demonstrations at other organizations or other places the government wanted to shut us down so they sent the police there to arrest the us to make it look like we were doing something wrong and then when a confrontation would break out with us and the police that is how we ended up getting in like confrontations with the police and going to court about to have police abuse police brutality being arrested but none of our work which was designed to make people see so they could be strong enough to work for themselves to not allow this system to hoodwink and pull the wool over their eyes and not see the system for what it was so they could protect themselves and be healthy so what this government gave was make it look like we were crazy like we were dirty and tried to justify everything all the beatings that we took all the rest that we took the make it look like what they were justified  what they did to us so after all these instances were over and over we had bells over millions of dollars was arrested over a one thousand times finally the city decided to come august th they wanted to put us out of the house and kick us that is a neighborhood get rid of us move said we're not leaving this is our home only pay for there's no reason for us to leave and they put warrants on us illegal war on us and came in over six hundred cops and thirty three o'clock in the morning deludes guns and rifles and everything they came in started knocking our house down from the top to the bottom because they wanted to get rid of we had our babies in there and they knew it they put water so high in that water i was standing on the water came up on me i had just what a little bit because i had two children with me and what it low enough within this stand right here on my thighs so there hades could be above water you know there was still much smoke reimport it was so much gas being put in to mix what water that is seen as a deadly weapon that alone and what happened my breath started cutting off and i was like taking a fever and i swear that air cleared i don't know how i don't know why all i can own is the power of god because i felt like i was taking my last breath in that basement and it just cleared all this and then i put the children out the window and climbed up behind them and we want to cross your street to safety but this government wanted annihilate us they don't want anybody knowing the truth about them and that didn't work and when that didn't work that's when they tried may th because a lot of people don't understand that move in the courts but we took those proceedings so that we could show people that there was no justice for move so finally after our last appeal was filed our family started going to different  officials and politicians and judges saying that we're not want to stand for our family being in prison for the rest of your lives and they got to the point where they thought they went to all of the neighbors in o they explained to them how all our pills were denied and that they were not going to let us sit in jail and they told them they played one protest and it being on the loudspeaker and everything and the neighbors say th understood because they want their family to fight for them also so we started protesting drawn attention to it and in response to this they sent a bomb even after wilson goode told our family he met with our family before he became mayor he was city manager director at the time and some of our brothers went to meet with him and he's holding he said i know your family got railroaded when i become fair i'm going to look into it we're going to do something about it well he became aware and our family called on me about a civil case what are you going to do about the move non and his response was to allow the federal government to drop a bomb because that's when it got the c four from from the federal government and they got they only didn't break any laws they didn't have any charges on them they were  were bombed but that's why they were bombed because they gave us thirty to one hundred years in prison each and when the judge was questioned about it by more meal on national radio nine people to prison and you don't even know who killed the cop and that was the last time we heard from a munich sound we call home and that's when he told us that mia had been shot he was in the hospital and thought he was going to die and when he did make over they tried him and put him on death row that is what led up to it for me because like suzanne was saying to me a was a reporter through our case and it's just so everybody is clear about it we were charged with killing a police officer in a state to police officer was shot in the back of the head in a bullet traveled around were meanwhile this police officer rant was facing our basement when he was shot they had police all surrounded in our areas on rooftops and everything so it was impossible for move to have shot back up from the basement the very word that again because  bullet to have come from that no it was no way that it could possibly go we're down bullets below feet he's standing up holding on to a telephone pole out in the open he's surrounded by police officers fire made this shooting bullets into the basement he's face in the basement and he gets shot in the back of the head the bullet travels downward we're below his feet that's impossible for move to have shot that cop never good to mention that we don't even have weapons charges  anyway i mean you know it's just getting more and more ridiculous that nine of us were sentenced for the death of one cop that was shot by one bully so what are they staying off of nine of us put our hand on  trigger at the same time i mean possible and out of anybody's half fair mind of being real but this is how bad that the government wanted to put us in jail and to shut us up but it was worse and i didn't want to so they wanted to kill us because believe me that all this incident get wasn't just meant to shout oh it was me meant to kill and kill everybody in the army babies animals and they didn't care they just one officer during our trial he was asked well what did you do when the people were coming out the basement and he said i just shot my because there was smoke covering the whole streets i just shot my gun and kill the guy empty i reloaded it and shot these person you know bigger than a minute and you have two children in your hand and that is enough enough that meant nothing to them no nothing to them and when i got partially across the street they snatched the children adam out arms and put me in handcuffs and ankle bracelets and took me to drown house you know there was a police videotaping the whole incident from across the street they played that tape in court and as we're coming out you can hear the cops this tape in it they're laughing you know i look at this little mother she's coming out is she such a good mother because we were trying to keep them from taking the baby and they're hear it they were angry about it which is why by the time the over came out because he was the last one to come out they were so angry when he came out and they saw him they just released all that hatred on to him and then they made up the stories which he was armed he didn't have a shirt on his hands with him in the air clearly you know and you could see on the tape they just grabbed his hands from out the air and start beating on him there was no resistance anything because they w hate and anger that with all of that we came out alive that they released it all on him you know and people just don't understand that they think that we've heard a lot of people say well you had to have done something for that to happen but the only thing we were guilty of is given them the truth because we gave them the truth they gave us prison and that's all this about in fact judge mel but when use it and stuff because we see it we're all family you know this is the town of persecution we have had to face since the above ground chapter of most service in philadelphia enough for all the seventies and all the things that we were fighting for people didn't understand because the new thing media was the tool of the politicians they printed what they wanted what the politicians want them to print  to isolate us and keep people from listening to what we was saying and looking at what was going on all right so a lot of people felt like we got what we deserve because the politicians used the news media to jail which john after clearly stated that they made a mistake by sitting us to jail because once we went to jail and went to all those different state prisons and were around all those different people we got to talk to and reach people we would have never been able to reach have we not gone to prison and that's what happened in every prison there was a more person and makes in staff alike talked about the example and how they say you know and that's what jive comment when you say you made a mistake by putting them in prison because the example of teaching which has gone world wide and we are in a state and everybody knows  cops that did the shooting know what the judge knew everybody knows we're in a city and you know that saying about standing the test of time this is why people feel the way that they do about move ever since move has been above ground they've seen as always seen as consistency all because you're impressed with the example that we've done in prison people are impressed with the example we step with animals with dying with everything because that example has right has not wavered at all that has been that's why people feel the way they do about us and we want everybody to know that what you see coming from us has nothing to do with the janet has nothing to do with is the teaching of john africa that we have followed these years forty one as people see us at being that prison activity and i say activity because we did that as loyal and committed to john edwards teaching as we could is the way we did everything else we demonstrate against police brutality we demonstrated against the way they mistreated animals the way they treat women i mean people saw that in this seven d s room right not  we have been doing the same thing just like people trust the sun because they noticed sun's going to come up just like people trust the air because they know it's going to rule their long they have that kind of feeling for more because they know they can trust us to be consistent by this system and help people get strong so they do not become slaves to this system because you can see they are now seeing the purpose and rule when we st started demonstrating against the exploitation of animals in those puppy mills and zoos already people was like you know with all this seriousness going on in the world why are we worried about z is thing about more about john africa's teaching yakka teach us to feel about all the life like we feel about ourselves because we're all connected and if people would follow that example that we're in the threat to the environment the threat to the animals and the threat to each other because when i see you the same as i see myself or the same as i see some say then out want to treat you the same way i sea or something like that the things you were talking about had nothing to do with that now it was not raised based it was planet and the legacy the legacy of john africa is the incredible you had what kind of family what kind of love like what we tell people we eat together we drink to give if we fight to keep it we play together we love together we are family and we don't have the same mother you know from iraq and we had the same founder we had the same teaching and you see earth closer together then you see a lot of people that have bambery and blood bonds they call it blood because of that belief because it all goes in the same direction i was speaking to this one woman in other day her son was being bullied and she was saying well what can you do about bully and just like bullying janine was saying this source if there's only one source all of us come from that story and we take our won't feel that racism they won't feel that sexism they were born be like a bully i don't have to do this you know to make me feel above somebody else to elevate my still good if everybody had the reverence for life the very life that's filling our lungs the very life that feeds us that we couldn't have what out that force if everybody looks at that one thing and connect it all as being a part of it you can't hurt because you're not going to snatch away your breath you know you're not going to blind your stuff i you know you're going to do everything that you can to protect that source they gives you life and this is what we teach our children about all of life that's why you don't see him like make any difference between braces make a difference between sexes because we teach him that there's only one source and we all come from that source if you stop the air it's going to affect everybody but that air works the same after teaching us that that is the work that needs to be done to have world peace you know i mean but everybody has got to move and this is our purpose to teach to example so people can see why you w about you know what they did goodness they see in us the example they see in us was setting that example for the world it's not just for more because when the air is clear your children your children can believe that they are the same way as we do but people have got to realise what's gone on and i wanted to say something from a very different angle and while we're listening to these two beautiful sisters with their deep message and as many people as watching this show and while people are hearing them where they're going to be performing performing they're going to be speaking at an event this is people's forum for the st forum this friday night at seven o'clock it's going to be a wonderful event and they have been speaking at home and many other places and people are hearing and people are learning counter and something so powerful and i like to quote fidel castro in this in the last year of his life fidel castro said that the only hope for humanity is if we can somehow get through the media the international media control of people's consciousness so we have people controlled i mean for years they're out now forty if they were in forty one years during that time yes there was some move people speaking yes there was a struggle out here yes there was mia but what it takes to counter the power of this international media that not only controls the those who control the society not only the bad guy it's not only the the rich people in the corporate power but ordinary people run ordinary people people who don't who should who are good people and who are completely misled by this and that is so powerful and that's the truth and that is the that is what you know i do a lot of international work and you know some of it so for example for months and months and months people would hear what trump what the state department what the different media people were saying about venezuela which was not true which was clearly not true but that's what people hear and that's controls people's consciousness so when it comes to move being an activist in the movement i would hear i mean i was blessed early in the game to be introduced to some people one who respected like sufi bakari who was head of the free movie a coalition here in  city and i came to help her i was really brought in and met move through stuff people car so sufi would talk differently about the move along the brass would talk differently about it but it was very limited and of course i had access to move i met move through that work and began to see how my own prejudices and what i thought move was which i didn't know very much but that what they were was something completely different from my general feeling that they were very very different i don't feel that they're different when i what people don't have so i would hear people in the movement people very very well known widely respected people in the movement say things a bad move based completely on what they  hygiene was a problem they had too many animals they had in one house they had twenty dogs i remember this particular one in one house they had twenty two dogs they hadn't been in then house they hadn't counted the number of that's not what influenced their consciousness so people would repeat very sophisticated people not realizing they had been controlled by the media and would repeat what so another quote movie  up and scream at the people mover screaming at the police and the government at the state so all of these things distortions distortions distortions and people would say to me things like though they know better than me of course because there's always certain you know when you when you think you know everything you say it like that so they would say i know this someone told me that or i know it here you know with out people who are criticizing the government and us imperialism in a one million different ways would buy into the lies in the propaganda and accept what the media was putting into their heads and that is a phenomen that has fidel castro knew that because he had to live with the distortions of governments and us imperialism and all that against that government and what it did and what the price of a day and then we see it doing that in concert with the way we have been programmed to live and exempt of what is in is not so even making an argument about dogs is m young you're going to prison take us to that experience some of the things you had to endure and over com go into prison as as as as wimmin young women young women who were not murderers or or a machine gun malls or anything like that take us through that give us some sense of that and i mean this is not something you see on t v this was live you know we're sitting in the basement and we're seeing the sparks of the bullets ricocheting off the walls where we're sitting with our kids you know when we're seeing the water come in we're hearing the gunfire we're seeing in the water rise up and we're feeling like this is our last days we survived that and then after all of that we get put in prison for something we know we didn't do so we have to have the mindset to deal with that attack and then to deal with being separated from our family our kids and  children and deal with this situation and dealing with people who like you said because of the things in their mind and listening to the media they're all hate nuts because they believed everything that was said about this so not only are we half in a fight with the police we come to prison we have to defend ourselves with any other and maybe you know so we had to establish the trust with these inmates also you know and we've gone through different confrontations with inmates and staff because the thing here was  order was to break us to break us so every facility when we were isolated locked the way in and the whole kept away from the population and going through different things like the very  st thing st of all after that attack we were done around house for like three days with no food no anything we're laying on the metal cuts wood no mattresses and they you know newspapers and things and the after our arraignment they put us in a van to take us up to the house of correction and we get in a van is twenty eight month pregnant women and cops outside of the van arguing saying it's got to be all of us or we can't do it so we're like you know what are you talking about you know and when they kept arguing we just looked at each other we s something wrong is going down here you know we didn't know whether they was going to try to rape was be to kill us or all three but we got our handcuffs from behind this to the front and we because if all of us don't do it we can't do it meanwhile we've been sitting in this park in dock area for almost two hours so when they finally decided they could do it they start driving us stuff we know we could hear the explanation in the offices just accepted it but they had been waiting for us for like two or three hours this is the kind of things that we had to deal with throughout with every time we went to a different prison we had to in they might not in like this but they have to respect that example and this is how it has been throughout those forty years and you have some administrative and some officers that just didn't like us so they would try to stick the windows were like the coated windows that you couldn't see through but you hardly tell it was a day or night and they had three little holes drilled on top of that window and that was your source that was your source of air it got there that we had to take turns i would take the thing and the paper plate that they gave us and janine would sit down and i would use studios to weigh the air so we could get some circulation and then after my turn i would sit down and janine would stand  can get some circulation it got so bad down there that more started growing on the doors and the walls and everything now near and the way that we got out of that situation was some politicians came up and they were view restriction area restricted housing unit and we started hollering from the back hey and the people that came said they wanted to see back there and once they saw that mold was growing on the wall and we were put in that kind you ation in there for how long do we stay now we were near for about six months they let us out of that and put us in another cell that had bars but you could open the door and get air here but we've been through a lot of situations and on top of all of that you know in eighty five we were still in the hole and wait when you're in the hole you don't have any t v radio and you only get a phone call like once a week if something like that so we don't really know what's going on outside a memory of that restricted housing unit and the officer came to our door each door opened a door and said your son is dead shut the door went to the next door and we don't know what's going on we don't have a blow and the only way we found out exactly what was going on brother still imprisoned and as the prison called it would come suspicious circumstances but we know the circumstances weren't suspicious we know exactly what happened to them we want people to know that this system will stop at nothing i mean it's getting a little harder for them now because people are starting to feel about us to way you feel so they can't just do that anymore and get away with it we also want to thank everybody especially the new move your call ition it has helped support move all these years you know and everybody else out there who has helped support us and most of all our family i'm forty one years is a long time you know being away from your family having phone and you know a lot of people there were just neglected i mean some because they didn't have family you know they were great mentors to distil from him sent in the mail our family never once gave up on they will always be there for prison where they were threatening to harm us physically or lock us in the hole for no reason they would back off because they would be getting phone calls from france from germany in from new york from spain this is the kind of support we have head and our family have had helping them for all of these years and we just