it's sunday morning and we're studying old testament history we've worked our way through genesis and we've gotten into exodus and we're in the third chapter of exodus where moses meets god on the mountain on mount  he he has an encounter with the lord in a burning bush of fire whenever i'm studying the bible i want to help you understand the way that i think i believe everything is arranged in exact order i don't believe you can find the word fire where it's not related to everything else everyplace else that you've got fire in the bible now i'll notice when i'm reading a notice that when i read a let's read the first four verses again of egyptian over there in the second chapter and then we will get here in this third chapter and he has his first encounter with god you have to understand moses has never spoken to god before he doesn't even if he knows who he is the only knows  through to some is survive to retain their belief and knowledge of god but we know that most of them have not because moses would not have said whenever god colony notice what it notice what's being said when you look at a scripture moses would not have said he wouldn't have said what if the people in israel say what is the name of this god that sent you here to liberate us god moses would have said that if it had been common knowledge among the israelites and in bondage it had been common knowledge that they believed in god because evidently a great majority of our most marmie even all of them didn't his heart to be a believer and he puts it in our hearts no different than moses everything you find in the old testament is going to be a shadow according to hebrews ten and one shadow the word ischia it's the shade in the new testament is the very image the very image are the real the spiritual is the real now as we read here we see moses encountering god and whenever i read you read slow and notice what's happening and notice the words you you look here moses kept the flock of jethro his father in law the priest of midian and he led the flock to the back side of the desert and came to the mountain of god even two whole reb and the angel of the lord appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of the bush and immediately when i see flame of fire flying i'm looking at flame and i know that word flame is all through scripture and fire is  ultimate scripture now this will hit my mind as quick as i read something not because as talk this way when i first started studying fifty six feet seven years ago but because i've learned that god is sovereign and is not always easy sovereign over a reaction of the earth but he is mathematically sovereign and everything will blend with everything else and i see this and this comes to my mind flying and fire i know that jesus is coming back in flaming fire in second as well as one seven and eight in flaming fire he's going to take vengeance on all those that know not god and that obey not the gospel and when he comes back in flaming fire over there in revelation look at that  revelation one thing when he comes back in flaming fire well look it look at first second the silence first and all the sayings connect in my mind when i'm studying i think these things immediately second in chapter one and verse seven and you who are trouble rest with us with the lord jesus christ shall be revealed from heaven with this mighty angels that's when he comes back isn't it and flaming fire there's a blush of flaming far and god speaks to moses god speaks to moses god speaks out of a flaming fi now i believe the flaming far has to do with everywhere else you find flaming fire then how does jesus speak out of this flaming fire well let's read the rest of this in flaming five taking vengeance on them that know not go the gospel of our lord jesus christ now look at revelation i think these things go through my mind when i'm thinking revelation knighting then there has to be a speaking out of the flaming fire will there is look here in revelation i eleven i saw heaven opened and behold a white horse and he that set upon him was faithful in truth and the first century most of your commanding generals rode white horses and then righteousness he does judge and make war his eyes were as a flame of fire that you are back there again flame of fire and old is said were many crowns and he had a name written that no man named knew but he is not my word of fire in israel is wooden it will consume them so here's the word coming out of the mouth of christ it's a flaming fire isn't it in a tongue of fire was someone preaching the try you as though some strange thing happened and you there is a fiery trial that's tribulation that we go through and we're not willing when we first come to the knowledge of christ we first come to new birth birth we're not willing to speak out like we should that's because we are babies in the lord babies and i have people come to visit jim i just don't want to witness that much well you're probably not old enough yet i just don't know what to say to people don't try to learn a lot before you say something and soon as you learn to push who is forward tell them that ok it's quick as you can say see eighty say it with all the authority you can see a t v you know go ahead and say it it may be elementary but believe it or not most people out in the world don't know elementary they don't know dick and jane yet as far as spiritual things are concerned whoever dick and jane that was our first for a greater where i came from i don't think i have and will in a way all right i think of birth when we don't speak that's because we're we have a little faith a crucify us that much so we don't say a whole lot when you first begin to understand the truth so no i'm not this is not an excuse to set back and lay back and not do anything but don't worry when you're trying do the best you can and tell people what you know and if they ask you questions and you say just tell them i don't know but i'll see if i can find out for you there's nothing wrong with knowing just try to find out now let's go back over here to the third chapter and i'm going to get back into more this i also think of first   one in seven when the bible says that the trying your faith is more precious than go though it be tried by fire we have to go through fire we have to learn god has to put us in the far before we learn to speak no we taught we speak out of the fire like god spoke out of the fire and jesus is going to speak out of the fire here and the tongues of fire when they're set upon them cloven tongues as a fire i said this wednesday it doesn't mean this kind of a tongue all these charismatic picture and pentecost pictures got they call that a cloven tongue split say there's a split right here no clo because it's a cloven cloven gloss glasses were foreign language and notice how ridiculous this is can you have a  said god said god said my words of fire he said that over there in jeremiah he said is not my word of fire that breaks in pieces so whenever you find the  the flames of fire you find the word of god coming out of it it takes fire to cause us to speak doesn't it takes in the more fire we go through and the more experience we have the more we speak out of the fire  mole we do that and what causes the fire holy ghost and the holy spirit is truth isn't holy ghost in the holy chapter i believe this verse eight verse seven or eight he says tag jerusalem in and you'll be until the holy ghost has come up on you and you shall be witnesses and a witness is one that speaks out and a witness says the word martis and we word martyr from that it means you're going to die for telling the truth people going to crucify you at least figure they for telling the truth now you've got far all through the scriptures but let me read the rest of this here in exodus the third chapter and out in verse two in the angel a lot appeared to him in a flame of fire out of the midst of the bush and he looked and behold the bush burned with fire and the bush was not burned now i'm still looking at the word bush but i do see fire and i see trials and i see speaking out of the fire moses said i will now turn aside and see this great sight why the bush is not burnt the bush may be a picture of us because i just occurred to me just now i didn't think of it before maybe a picture of us because we're not consumed by the far we are refined by the far away so the bush is not consumed and we're not consumed we speak we're refined and we speak out of the fire and only and then god is speaking out of the fire and when the lord saw that he turned aside all modes and said i will now turn aside and see this great sight why the bush is not bart and when the lord saw that he turned aside to see god called to him out of the midst of the bush god is speaking out of the burning bush he's speaking out of the fire is any he's talking to moses out of the fire when we get instruction from god it's out of the fire and when we it and i believe it because he said abraham rejoiced to see my day and he saw it they said you're not even fifty years old you see neighbor and he said before abraham was i am the i am god of the old testament he didn't raise the pharisees when he said i am that's his pieces and then acts two three and there appeared in them then the result tongues not four not not split not a little split tongue like this you've seen those pictures on cars and o still books and it is on the sea that that is not what it's talking about because these are jews from every nation under heaven and they all spoke a different gloss of a different foreign language they either spoke a foreign language or they spoke a dialect of the see illogic calls fire from heaven in second kings what actually the first king the eighty checker he faces off he speaks to god and god speaks out of the heavens calling fire down from heaven that's in the eighteenth after first kings when  from heaven and then when you get over into the scriptures of mark nine forty nine says everyone shall be salted with fire we're salted with fire and john  per fire this means breath this means fire this is the word spirit spirit and fire and we said this was an old ancient this is an old ancient term it was a stoic time that meant life lived mr xeno who began this began the stoics system they had all kinds of sayings and this was one of their sayings he said all the universe was a cosmos that's the word world in john three sixteen and it means an orderly arrangement his masculine gender and he said what gave this only arrangement kosmos life was no men her and that had been a saying for hundreds of years since mr seen at least three hundred years since mentions they know every one that heard the john the bad this knew that numa and spirit in five men live laugh so when you and i are going through the fire we speak out that's because we have the life in a us which is the spirit the holy spirit when we speak the spirit then the words of god come out of us let me give you a few more the the apostles asked jesus at one point luke nine fifty four let will talk all far from heaven luke twelve and perhaps this will help to straighten out some of these things we were the house friday night and jared said something about he said what really affected me was when you talked about wednesday night about god speaking out of the fire when i'm this is kind of the second half of this message i want to see this whole picture loot the twelve chapter of it and look here in verse forty nine i had come to see in five our own earth now do you see that better and more clear and what will if it be already a candle he said it's already started by the word of god i've already i tell you no he but rather division for from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided three against two and two against three the father shall be divided against the son over why the truth that's not the father is not an occasional guess in order to speak the truth had to grow we have to go through it that's all the mystery that we suffer this going through the fire is not fun it's not supposed to be fun in the from the world's viewpoint but it's joy when we gather together you have to go through the fog that is required or i don't like it when when i get mad at people they get mad at me and we fight we first what are you going to learn to get over it that have cuma tour and you grow up you the father shall be voted against the son the son is the father the mother against the daughter and the daughter against the mother the mother in law against her daughter in law and the daughter in law against her mother in law and that is the fire and look at matthew ten says the same words same words  dean this is our fire fire finding fire we have to be inflaming fire that's how you refine gold you put it you take gold or it's not any good until you put it in the fire and you're not  because you don't do the works of god the bible says confess is the exact opposite it means to agree with confess is what homilies h o m m l o g e l so when we when we are of the same homo logos of the same word we agree with if you agree with christ you don't just confess christ by walking down enough you talk about it daily and that put you in the fire you have to be in the fire and you have everybody's got be miserable somewhere sometime the thing this is not a happy fun and games thing every day whenever you're looking for at the fun and games that's not it you have a gym my life gets so tough and it gets it's tough it's supposed to be tough it's father you ever walked around in a fire before there were three he were children were in a five day and not one not even a hair was burned on their bodies and we're just just like the burning bush the bush wasn't consume they weren't consumed and you and i won't be concerned but we will be refined it will speak out of the fire and so we did we learn to witness out of the fire and he said but he says look here in in  chapter of matthew thing that i come to send peace on earth in verse thirty four ike i came not to see in peace but a sword and it's going to cut barry's into a man's more let's read it i start to quote it but variance against father and the daughter against her mother and daughter in law against her mother in law all this is all over the scripture is and a man's shall be they of his own house jim when i can i make my mother believe whenever you become the holy spirit if you ever try to figure it out then god will quicken who he wails you have to be in the fire and the longer you're in the fire the less she care about what anybody says about you if you can stand the fire long enough you surrender up to god and you quit want to live for yourself and if that ever happens which it would happen to you if you live long enough people think i'm awful hard i think you're just too hard i have people say i'm just tired of i'm just tired of this message oh more the love of god why and what you want more for lay or adopt a which is you want you want more guy pay well i got days walking after god commandments  that produces fire doesn't it you can't get away from the fire you won't love are you wont for layo i like i like chocolate i like ice cream i like my car like my dog i like to means favor that has been underneath you didn't do anything to merit eternal life so we pick you out and he burnt you and says now you have to go the only way to heaven is through the fire that's the narrow way he saves us to put us in the fire and then were we were saved we are being saved we shall be saved as we go through the fire because saved is the word sold so it means to be taken from one point all the way through the fire to another point and to big protected through the fire through the whole deliverance that's what it means now deal with it if i had a guy come here one time he said can we take off on friday and go party i said no no you can't take off on friday go party there is no day off there is no part time christianity you might it might take a day off and you may be a baby believer but god's got more fire for you you can't get away from he said jim but i don't do what you say or don't do what i say god do what he won't in your life if you belong and the father is a requirement all i'm trying to do is tell you what the instruction book says the book says i have to go through the fire and i have been through so much fire i have been down to hell and back so many times i can't get i've laid on my deathbed have i been in blizzards and tornadoes thinking i was going to die you have been o refine me so i would stand here in the word of god would come out of the fire and it's come it has come out of the fire that i've gone through in the past and it'll come out of your mouth when you go in the fire just like it came out of the bush and you will not be consumed just like the bush wasn't concerned now where was i and a man's faucheux be they those of his own house so how can you get your mother say you can't but she's so life for my sake shall find it you have to lose this life that's all there is to it this is not my requirements this is god's requirement i'm preaching to us i'm preaching to me as much as i'm  in him that sent may he the receive of the prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward and he the receive of righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward now when we go out we give people the tru another term for the truth is holy spirit another term is a living water living water was cold water that's the next verse cold water that in heaven it cold water they had to keep their water in cisterns they were flies in the cisterns they were laying eggs in the sisters and they hated to drink water out of the cisterns when they could get a living water which was down underground a jacob's well in northern israel when jesus was at jacob's well with the woman of the well some area and and they called moving water and mountains and they called water and strange under the ground they called it living water because it was moving they said it was alive and that's why a lot of the pagans worship these rivers and streams because that was moving or leave it what they call living water jesus told the woman he said i'll give you living water and you'll never thirst again what she called the living water that water out of the bottom jacob's well the jesus was calling living water the holy spirit she said how can you give me living water the well is very deep and you didn't bring a rock to draw with he said i'm not talking about that i'm talking about the holy spirit so the holy spirit is living water that was down in those wells way down in the bottom of the maybe a hundred feet down and it was colored water and that's what the next verse says know was lose a reward but when you give cold water you are giving living what are you giving the holy spirit and you get in the virus for that's what this thing is all about then over there in first corinthians three thirteen three thirteen fire you never become a witness until you do you learn more and go through a lot of experience and then you get in the fire and it we're not talking about your chronological age we're talking about your age in the flesh some people young fifty five sixty sixty five and seventy they just started bleeding a while back but then you can and you can't sit back and say i regret that i was so old when i found out the truth you found out the truth the exact day that god wanted you to you weren't supposed to monitor before you were supposed to find it at the end no time before no time later where was i going first corinthians three let's read let's read a little before for the day shall declare it because it shall be revenged by fire and the fire shall try every man's work what sort it is have i done the wrong word that was burned yes i've done some bad work in my life and it was burned like a fire if any man's work abide if it stays or continues if it may know  not be consumed god's going to get rid of self that goes out there and builds on the wrong thing yet so as by fire yet another word you can waste your time preaching if it's not the truth now i don't waver most these people in these churches are even believers don't even believe there i believe the ones that are believers their works are going to be burned like  you know i've got some bridges that have been a disappointment to me particularly john macarthur because i felt like he had a tender heart and he's got a tender heart times but he's so messed up on rapture and on praetorian been on millennium and on christmas and easter and and even messed up a little own free will and predestination a pretty good predestination down the line you know come up and say predestination for you are walking hand in hand and if he is john told the whole truth he's got ten thousand attendance on sunday morning he would increase church if he told it all the time and sometimes when he tells it a lot of these predestination is soften it up course kind of palatable or you can swallow it i don't want to man to swallow it unless he's in a you slow down let me see what is talking about hebrews one in verse one taber loose is about believers believing christians this is not a book written to the jews only that's not what this is for all through this we study on this and i'm of the through this whole book we've studied all through it he's talking about the shadows in the very image is he talks about male kids that make the high priests now of this temple of god whose temple way are he says over there in that comes into our hearts and sprinkles our hearts now back to chapter one of hebrews god who at sundry times our barriers times many are portions of times in diverse manners we get the word diverse from that in many ways it just means in many ways and manners speck in times past under the father's by the profits he spoke to the fathers by the prophets not he's going to talk about the glory and the express it be age of his person by the way the word image is the word interesting isn't it won't go into the new in time it's understanding god is what it is and of his person upholding all things by the word of his power when he had himself purged our sand sat down the right hand the fathers by the angels prophets the prophets were angles are messengers of god that's what he's talking about his messengers his ministers an angel it could be a heavenly creature but it can also be me and you because all the church pastors were called angels are messengers and it was this simple greek word messenger that's all it means agree that mean a heave can be but it just may be man you didn't say is being made much so much better then if he's talking about the angles preaching he's talking about christ who is much better than the profits are any of the preachers as he had by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they were under which of the messengers of god when you see angel think messenger of god because that's all it means don't even add heavenly unless you think of us as the heavenly he's placed us in heavenly places in the heavens was israel and we're spiritual israel right all these things come to m god doesn't do that he's talking about being spoken to by the prophets and then he starts talking about the angles which is another name for the prophets it's another title for the prophet but under which of the profits preachers angels said he had let all the angels because he's greater than the engines and the angles he say it or the messengers who make it is angels or his messengers spirits and his ministers a flame e thrower good grief look at that one more time revelation eleven revelation eleven on this give you a quick rundown you know this is one of the great conundrums is one of the great puzzles i'm not going to use it and that let you know what that is is one of the great puzzles of the bible to most men unless you define hate it's not hard and usually you find everything in the book of revelation quoted somewhere or read furry back to the old testament when he says verse three i will give power to my two witnesses and they show prophesied a thousand two hundred threescore days that's half of seven years a jewish calendar two hundred sixty days or it's called forty two months our time time and dividing of times they need two witnesses and two when this is what it takes to reach to confirm any thing you have two witnesses when he says you've got two witnesses that's jewish law and he says and people want to know who these are they are how do these two witnesses these are what ve trees quoted directly from zachariah the fourth chapter the last few verses there these are the two olive trees and the two candlesticks standing before the god of the earth and well i got it show it to you again because i got to get a verse five zachariah the four chapters that graph for that's the next the last book of the old testament he's talking about the candle sticks and the candle sticks earlier in this book is the refined churches and you think god has changed his mind on that and what comes out of the candle stick what is a candle stick far out it's for flame to come out of the top of it isn't it and it were very fine church in the flame comes out of the camel six the flame comes out of our mouth doesn't it and that's the word of god is not my word a far notice all of this goes together doesn't and we're not saying we're go tells you what the two olive trees are he said these are the two olive trees there in revelation eleven in forward in a these are the two olive trees well what are the olive trees there and and  talking about the candlesticks in the olive trees giving all to the candlestick so the two olive trees we need to know what they are he tells exactly who they are verse twelve and i answered again and sent him what days to olive branches what do i think that's the same question what are these two olive trees these are the two olive trees these two witnesses we know are the two witnesses don't we know that zachariah isn't a great day in the moon i don't know what's wrong i mean i've heard that this is the great one of the great confusions of the bible no it's not these are the two all adrift these are the two anointed once all you have to know is there were two that stood by god in the earth that represented god in the earth stand by standing by god means to represent god there were two that were known in the old testament the two that were known it was the priest and the king and that's all it represented god in the earth there was a prophet that god would pick out and he would be anointed with he would be anointed but that was a spiritual man these were literal men representing god and the earth was the prophet didn't represent god in the earth he went directly to the priest in the klang and says this man to be the priest out of the trap of aaron the levi witnesses there and first amethi or chapters on over there and hebrews attend chapter you find that these men died in the mouth of two witnesses without mercy before god it's always two witnesses so the two witnesses look here let me put it up here like it is the bible says they are two witnesses witnesses that when we speak and that's when we become two witnesses that's the inner man in the outer man when god calls the out amanda vote with the inner man which is christ in you and the other man is self through the years as you die as the old as  you got christ in you and you have cell phone the outside and then as you learn to die daily through the years it burns out all of self to the five keep saying that it burns out self and you learn to be witnesses and you speak out of the fire and then when you get to be old what really makes you uncomfortable let me tell you what makes you uncomfortable here you are a baby believer and they see this first little far that gets the point where you want to quit it's when you get way down here pass halfway that's when you feel like you are outnumbering the world is just you and god and you feel like you're in a majority because your god is a majority of one and when you learn enough truth she always have words to shoot back with a woman at the post office because if they're elected god they want if they're not they won't it's real simple well now what are the the two witnesses the two that when it says standing before the god of the earth that means representing god in the earth the two that represent god in the earth is the priest in the game priest in games and when you look there at revelation the first chapter of revelation revelation the first chapter relation on know the word of god comes out of there man it isn't that fairly simple all you have to do is do a lot of research in the old testament first of all you've got to read law be familiar with it when i saw this years ago i mean did i oh wait hebrews one i don't have time to go to all the faces hebrews one he says in verse seven and have the angles are of the preachers he a throne oh god is for every and ever a scepter of righteousness is the scepter of liking them and you're not going to understand these things unless you come to a place of understanding that wherever you find farts related everywhere else you've done far it'll consume the unbeliever but in a refined somewhere like the bush that burned will not be destroyed it will refine it and will speak out of the fire the fire you have to learn to embrace th fire because you're going to go through it no matter what you think or how you feel that's all there is to it if you're believer why don't want to go through the fire where you can quit go quit go ahead i mean i can quit jer i want a little bit more love of god and grace but his word was in my heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones i can't do it sometimes i want to quit but i can't i'm jim brown your bible teacher here grace and truth ministries if you lack of free tape they are free we won't solicit you the tapes are free we'll send we send you one just call us at one eight hundred six two five saturn easter is pagan it's the old feast of ishtar and we of course we actually don't believe in halloween and we believe in predestination but we believe a lot dave or than a lot of the calvinist in the predestination is we believe god cre evil and that god wants everything to happen that is happening and we believe that god's light vessels of wrath fitted him for destruction and vessels of margy which he's for prepared to glory and we also believe that you have to carry your cross daily because that's what predestination is about and we believe you have to agonize over sand and you have to repay and of sand there has to be a new birth and we believe that baptism is blood in the first century but baptism a martyrdom and we and when jesus said i have a baptism be baptized with he's talking about a death a martyrdom was called a blood bath does it and we don't believe in crackers and grape juice we believe jesus is leading the last passover and we believe in a spiritual passover and many many more things if you'd like to come and see this and learn more about what we believe just call us one eight hundred six two five five zero nine  r six one five eight two four eight five zero to come and jo