this is a live program and in approximately twenty five minutes our phone lines will open a new god will have an opportunity to discuss some of the things we talk about and some topics that you may choose to discuss that we had that means as customary as always this is also an anniversary of the oklahoma federal building which killed not only adults but several children you know quite a large amount of all black children in oklahoma by terrorists claim that the car was stolen even though the car was just borrowed it wasn't stolen and they chased them into a small lake area where the young girls drove into the lake and the deputy stood by in st petersburg florida and just watched the mock been as they drown the dead then you could overhear the radio transmissions and hear them talking about whoa i hear them they just about go on now here they did now they just mock three little girls while they died in plain sight in real time and they did absolutely nothing with respect to calling emergency service fire department would have had to pull them out of the water they didn't try to do anything themselves they just observed it from a distance and watched their mom die you know drowned to death so this is the anniversary he wanted to release acknowledges that because they had only shows  ride of sorts and it was the responsibility those offices to stop their pursuit because these three girls were too young to really handle because i didn't know what they were doing became homages in the moment over indicted there was no further investigation to put those offices in daily should have lost their jobs in immediately been arrested but i didn't happen they were able to mock them and it's just a tragedy of sorts and  instead of mentioning the anniversary those other things that i mentioned i thought that it would be germane to our community to mention the passing of three young girls who didn't even start their lives yet who one necessarily died because of  by law enforcement people who we expect to put life over anything you know something like that just to occur very first topic the church burnings i know was mentioned not all that he was related to an officer a member of the service a police officer law enforcement officer this is his son now you know some people may may suspect you know how you know to father didn't  inkling that his son had these kind of notions but you know of course the father is not going to be on trial as the son who was arrested these yet to be charged of racially you know they're still not at this point a racial motivated charged with killing two black seniors in a louisville kentucky supermarket but he initiated his attack by trying to enter into a church you know he was observed congressman church where he of course intended to do damage so to black church have been the target of these these terroristic attacks and for night i'm everest as united states of america has been the united states of america so as michael has stated you know this is not a new ass of church bombings you know this is some of the same ole same ol as i stated over ninety black churches have been the target of these attacks so fortunately this individual has been arrested we believe that he should be charged with a racially motivated crime which of course adds additional time to assent is this is a terrorist act he should be charged with terrorism because that you know historically that was the motivation of talking in the black church so you know we'll see but you know fortunately he was arrested when he was now i think  that but it was four girls who were killed in birmingham now there has always been as in the world pointed out always been church bombings or or church burney these are the two has gone back and forth but the history of service especially in the south and this occurred in the south so they have it is absolutely rock because it's a foundation piece with respect to white supremacy serve some you know most people always look at cases you know civil rights workers what have you it was a service now what we have to understand that this evidence was overwhelming now you had the state fire marshal browning said two weeks ago that it was a lipp process it was difficult he wouldn't even say it that that it was awesome he was yes investigating the five but would not say it was aussie r c now that is cleared it's awesome and it all came big it was so eerily similar it all came from the same person now you have digital evidence from of this person to show that this was  pattern from matthews it was a pattern and with the digital information you see that he had first in his cell phone photos and videos of all three fi in his cell phone he even superimposed himself in these videos and he claimed responsibility in the video was there was a ten second to open a can of worms especially start with his father consequently this is why they they would they will call it a hate crime they would view him as a lone wolf as they did with dylan roof and so many others they will call them automatically without the value of really vista geisha they will call them lone wolves because now you can preclude a real iter dect interdicted investigation it's  background which will cause a wear and bring a whole host of other people into it so they are not going to do that they just going to consider them alone or will they go sit in a hate crime however they will not call it a terrorist attack therefore it will not be the extensive federal investigation or even a state statewide level investigation as to who is affiliates are and that's to teach that's what they do with white folks they would not classify them as terrorist talk about his father and his relationship you know does he know did he know this and was involved in these type of activities and i was reported that this young man that this person had  facebook page attached to a white supremacist groups to other groups who were involved in white supremacy and so forth so he has a background for lack of her more history and involving himself not saying this in fact the case that his father didn't know or maybe even have some kind of influence on his thought process on his lack of  respect for you the black church or whatever it is i just i just can't see the haleigh's father just so distant and in a relationship or knowing each other that he didn't have either a any influence influence all that was wasn't at least aware of some of his son's positions relative to white supremacy yeah is that you know and this is a problem a lot of times when you have people who have these white over white supremacy notions and they they don't try to hide it they're just outright racist but other individuals who may be white who don't consider themselves races say nothing to do nothing as it relates to check in that person you know that many times and in the police department when we had to sue the police department because this rac practice is discriminatory practices hostile work environment you know black officers always have to sue black officers always have to complain white officers who claim that they are racist never intervene and say oh this is not right they never intervene when they see that another officer is act and you know and appropriately so his father you know you know the true and the and the rot of the three so perhaps you know and i'm not going to condemn the fall because i don't know him right right but you know they occur they never want to charge him as a terrorist because like michael said they have to broaden their scope in terms of this individual's communications who he was in contact with and there's you stated it might be a reflection of his father you know or relatives w i mean it lease at least start with the freed he did call the for him before he even started the five years he did second video talking about black church burnings before he even started so worst case scenario start with that frame why did he communicate to that person is that the chain of command is that one of the people that he's affiliated with and him over him is there command structure in place so when there is so we don't even have to look at the father the father is a law enforcement person a deputy ok i'm just saying start a start  we you know you've already looked into his phone you have his cell phone go deep into that cellphone get on his computer start there start the way you would do any investigation start the way you would do it if you didn't hurt this philosophies and opinions marcus garvey or this you would look in more a real investigation develop where as to all the affiliates associates networks organizations what have you you would do all of that so they do this in this particular case because on this your responsibility because even though there was not a loss of life thank god in this particular situation this was a person or in the movie young person with the energy to continue doing this  there would have been a loss of life so you should do yourself proud as a state louisiana which ugly history of killing black folks that know is the i'm and massacres in the like you should at least try to eradicate some of that history by doing the right thing which would be to find out how deep of how deep a level a white supremacy is involved with and these known organizations that had been in louisiana they do these kind of  and be a child wouldn't stop walking away from him he he claims that the child had a serious look on his face while he ignored him he had a clinch for his and agitated expression his brow was turned down with i don't know i don't know how your eyebrows turned downward but he claimed that as our browns turned down wood and that the young man took his fist and was putting punching his open palm in his other hand consequently he snatched shadow while he was walking away from a mind you he snatched it shall pick them up over that's a given i'm going to give the deputy day that he ignored his or is orders to stop and he walked away but before he turned and walked away he was able to notice that agitated expression his our brown was down wood and then he was pounding his fist into an open palm and walked away man you have to all of that so obviously the eleven year old was in control he was able to walk away what what gives you permission in the right to now snatch him lift them all over your head and slam them down to the ground and then cuff him and arrest an eleven year old for refusing a verbal command from a teacher let's say it started with the teacher so because he was so cold this dropped of in class and did not listen to the teacher he ends up being slammed to the ground would you cheering a little white girl or a little white boy the same happening all over the country does happen far too often and in all of us know as former law enforcement officers that we use physical force it should be consistent with the force that's being used that the that the department you're trying to apprehend is being used against you so it should be equal or perhaps a little more now for simply eleven yo chouteau i don't know what kind of force that needs to be utilized in terms of apprehend eleven yo chow but to lift him up in slim body slam and you can actually kill somebody by doing that absolutely totally ridiculous and for the mere fact that it was on on on video you know shows that these officers you know their criminal behavior is outrageous and the only time you really should cut the eleven year old is when he as as you stated you know they definitely should be some kind of discipline but we're seeing this far too often you know this rough rough treatment of children and all he's doing is walking away or he's going to weigh you know i mean you know if you want to if you want to tell the kid you listen man i want to speak to you and try to end in a police officer's responsibility is to you know to dissolve or lower the tense tense of the of a situation is trying to bring calm to it not to bring it to our community but it's people and that is so much deeper than that because there is no way that anyone could find the ability to justify the treatment of anyone a sixteen year old kid in that manner i missed you know i mean eleven year old child  that meant it is ridiculous and then now you have to think about it the officer did it his supervisor for lack of a better term condoned it that's right there is a  children about with seat i mean this is ridiculous and so you know and i always say this we really have to revisit our response we have to revisit our response on the attacks on african people what you know and i concur with what i say that we the know for hundreds of years in the south though they have acted independently as if they had no may is no government is would have you know a state attorney generals the other they have congressional seats that are black in florida their state assembly seats in florida that are black obviously other republicans one run the state you know that's a given however they are black individuals and black on he refused a verbal command he pounded his fear is but the bottom line was what all is said and done if you give that any merit or gravity how do you explain him walking to do something like that to a white person but they allowed it and now the whole world sees it you have elected officials in florida they have to do your job for once you sit back and let the jack check not representing people today in florida you have elected see uses to your point and we talked about this many times in our program you know where we see because we with the advent of videos now we're seeing a lot of these horrific criminal activities you know being can commit conducted by police officers but it a very real sense i mean we have to start romanticizing the role of police officers police officers are always been this aggressive and when you look at the formation of these powerful police officers up always been members of the klan has always been members of anti black organizations and they doubted that during the sixty's you know police officers would be in assault them biota black people just for one vote just for one to register to vote it was police officers blacks arrested blacks falsely trumped up charges then we have stopped question if as we have so brothers is that what i'm saying is that this friction this animosity is hatred for members of our community has always existed and we can romanticize about police officers look  they have a very dark history as relates to african americans members in african american communities and i think we've long said that it's time for our legislatures because they not only write laws but they shouldn't force war that we have a look at last voice but a country today because they're killing us the assault is the abuses and when it's on video and they get away with it so you know we cannot have these individuals walk through our community was so much power so much a darty and unchecked you know we just say i mean it's very unfortunate that we move on then he said be a national form on law enforcement in this country and two thousand and one thing well you know what i mean you had to sort of right we run out of time because we have a couple of more topics but one thing that i want to say relative to what you said you know i've been watching the media as it relates to politics just general and you know there's a lot of new people that are in congress right who have different positions when i say because some people are taking really starts positions for the community that they believe elected them and that they represent that is not happening in our community example being failed by our elected officials who are supposed to be standing in a position a st position to address things which make attacks that occur in our community so you know one day i want to have a real discussion on i will politicians and how they're failing us because i want people to take a look at somebody like that to put into being attacked  well that you brought up comic leasing because that was ignored from the abolition of slavery so you're talking about from eight hundred sixty five all the way to the one nine hundred thirty so you're talking about a sixty five seventy year process they went on that was ignored they went on in north carolina south carolina mississippi alabama georgia tennessee all of these places the comic leasing which means you could be arrested without the commission of a crime bank you would do you work you say you don't work you get locked up even if you you do say you work you get in line and guess what if they catch you out sad they're gonna lock you up and once they lock you up and so state governments ignored it but just as importantly the federal government ignored it organizations like the n w c p with the president's word whether it was roosevelt wilson and all these other presidents they ignored it they the first president to ever addressed commie gleason and took steps to abolish it was franklin delano roosevelt the best president of the last century he was the first one to because of the onus was on him all know we know it goes without saying that crime in america has a black face unfortunately because there's a white media is not there we excessive when it comes to crime because the greatest crimes have been committed by white folks and i wish one w challenge me on that and i lay down all the massacres and all the dirty crimes that you've done and that you're doing terribly right now but they queue for also the fact that not only was the president he had of attorney general sessions who addressed the sheriffs are the largest convention of service in america then national board and he addressed that convention at national convention and he told them he respected service for their history he men's names and more than this a woeful bliss with crosses burn each day which children of a mighty god use caution as they pray alas the living god exclaimed i am but why am business in a hole in his gold money but hopefully the venezuelan people will say we rather be poor and free as opposed to having a couple of trunkless and be a slave to europe and the united states of america because that's what united states wants to do they want to re aggressions but the west on these and i don't see people like to define them as these these third world nations and i refuse to say exactly you know not refuse to say that we have to be a real collective response because these people  that a lot of land american countries have freed them selves and have elected presidents who believe in a different kind of philosophy more of of socialist nature where the natural resource should be shared as opposed to one company or one family only in natural resources  from quick question or comment i've hundred sixty black men or straw that's right that means they probably was robbing him every two minutes trumped up charges by the police department and they still are trying to protect their community to make america think that people malcolm x love black people on a ball large a mob of lewis black i love black people don't disrespect black who they hate him so your analysis is incorrect i understand what you're saying but don't think that if we love each other and if we respect each other that those i know what it is when two people don't know each other that there is this big bear on the car is that it going on with two black people bump into each other they don't know each other and since i've been of adult and found the stupid then i apologize step on somebody is put on a step on mine i'm the first one to say excuse me i'm sorry you know i do that i do that as a practice i will continue to do that because we don't know what's on people's minds those are all indicators of bigger problems those are things that happen in so called the so called ghetto you know those are things that happen when people are deeply entrenched in poverty and they have insurmountable problems or at least what they perceive to be insurmountable problems so that's indicative of rich people they don't start fighting when they if they bump into each other that's  and unfortunately this is part of negative pathologies that we've inherited because we are nice people we are decent people by very nature so if you can't buy that you know and i'm not telling you to do it but i'm  stamp a person bumps in the you or you bump into them it's nothing wrong with saying i'm sorry first you know was nothing wrong with bad weather that i don't believe that there was a connection between the white supremacy and hate the white people show african people and africans peoples response amongst one another i don't see the connection i don't see in that system you know there's been attacks on african people while white folks since the beginning the time since we've been here so we can attach their mistreatment of our community based on the issues that we have within our own community so but i think should revisit it if you can and just try to look at it from another perspective  is detrimental to the black community we're suffering from disagree cation worse than anybody they're using eminent domain they're using whatever the protocols anything on the their bits that it's going to flatbush that's going on in various areas where white folks are coming from all over being through us and those black people have moved out we don't know where yet you know the city had a thing i think they were when they were moving people to jersey and kitty cat love you all knowledge is power and cut mass the we love you virus glad to see that you get much much much better your cut massacre fast break the rest of us a certainly the stakes are higher we understand the