seminars and titled ordinariness is next to god but after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about the movement i speak spontaneously or in a prompt to or inspirationally or some other i'm prepared lee and when there's a large group of people from diverse backgrounds then my little guardian angels run around teach one of your little guardian angels and get your little script of what you think you want to hear very it's very simple straightforward very mystical magical stuff usually when there's a large group from diverse different backgrounds i spend the first thirty five minutes doing vocabulary because we have our own terms that mean certain things in fact i just found out recently that the word radical means real good real in when i grew up radek old man way out not so hot so it's it's really true if you're going to know what we're talking about you pretty much have to give up your o frame of reference of what the words meant to you and should mean to us but they don't because when we get together and we're having a lot of fun we make up words and we give new meanings to words to people primarily brought us all together because we were in could have been israel or egypt or some place in greece last year traveling in the said how about doing a super you super to incite training for virginia beach mason virginia beach was pretty serious and they said you were there once before quite a few years ago and i said right and then i let it go for a little bit because i have been a lot of places i don't know where i've been because i just go in and out of them then when they said if we could get people together would you consent to come and do this and i in my mom of insanity i haven't regularly though which is kind of why i have fun i said yes of course i would do it for you two people i might not do it for anybody else on the planet but i certainly would do it for you to people so they did this and here i am so then they were talking about people saying next year at this time and i just looked at them deviously so because that may be true that you'll be here next year at this time but i'm hoping that i'll be someplace where it's warmer one of the largest chunks of information we dealt with for the last five days and here was the idea of the vision the perception your in how you see things in why you see him that way and why you start to respond to the things you see the way you do called your strategy and for the most part all of these are very sophisticated people and they all had their strategy down for their existence and their life and so we had a grand opportunity to come in and check for twenty twenty vision most of them had astigmatism so we started readjusting perceptions for people are giving them a different type of prescription to look at what they're looking at so that they could see is that really truly what i want to put out my life is that really truly what i want back in my life and do i really truly want to have these type of feelings and thoughts monitor the monitor me and run me and do i really want to be as unconscious as i am about the things i'm conscious about for the first day or two it was yes they did want all that some of them really were ready to fight for  and when people go to fight with me i say you win thank you please sit down they sit down with this funny terrible feeling that goes through down through the center of the earth because they think something happened there i won but if i won how come i don't feel so terrific is because they're being shown exactly the results of their strategy of restricted vision when they persist  there when they get irritated we say why is that irritation there and what are you doing with that not in those words because we have much more clever ways of doing it because if they know you're doing it that way they'll defeat you so we set up things for them to interface and relate back and forth with the whole group now if i sit and tell a person something there go yeah sure that may be true but it might not be but then when sixty three others start to say the same thing they start to say may be be they're probably wrong but if they're seeing it that way i'm probably doing something to give them that vision and so at that point all of us will start the self correcting mechanism insight doesn't care to change anybody it doesn't care to change your beliefs or get you to believe something else or to convince you of anything believe what you want to believe and if you really feel there's more of you than what you're really expressing and experiencing that greater potential  always hated that greater potential thing i i was beat up for five years by a person who had great potential a person worked for me they said this person's got great potential i know when somebody says they have great potential that means that's true and so after the first year i thought it was any time now this great potential is going to come whipping through here and after the second year i was trying to show them their great potential and how to get out if i here's great potential just do that the third year i was saying would you just please do anything and i call it great potential i finally found out that i have people around me that are very beautiful very handsome very intelligent very talented very knowledgeable quick witted mit would done with did and all those people seem to have a failure wrapped up in them and then i've got those people that don't have any of that all they have god is persistence and in durance and they just keep plugging in one day after another and they keep enduring to the end and those people win and it's amazing i've got talented people they can write songs they can dance they can write operas they can do plays they acted movies they don't but they can because they're talented and other people who don't have talent who are in those things all the time i've often felt that this ordinariness is next to godliness in this great potential is next to hell because it seems like i've always got to put up with something that's very distasteful when i'm in those areas maybe you've experienced that with people the one who is going to lead us and you're out in front pulling them come on let's get going and i know a couple married couples that would really stand up and cheer on that one because one feels of their polling one and the other feel that they're following along so the other has something to do to get at the one who's pulling thinks they're winning but the one who's following is really saying i'm letting the other person if you has to be explained you can't get it you know when these things you have to get started there's really no good news or bad news on life that's going up or down but there is a process that's very important to have called your attitude and the attitude is if you're going up this ratatouille afraid of success or if you're going down is your attitude t success because you have to get that vision straightened out if you're going down that's got to be failure it could be rest see there's an intellectual imperative was called if you call this thing bad you've got to intellectually be honest and look to see if it could be good and that type of vision therapy opens your mind and you get to find out you have a very good intellect and that you're very intelligent and you start to perceive in the darkness things that other people can't perceive in the light you get to look inside of yourself you get to see it change it modify it in the most wonderful thing is it doesn't matter what religion you're in what nationality what economic bracket well it just doesn't matter as long as you're a human being then you can find a place to use this for your own development i've been in this for a long time quite a few years ago when we first did this type of a training i viably said let's do another one let's do a step further let's don't just do that again what's next so we said let's experiment with another one then we sit down the few of us we said that was good but it's not going for the heart the loving the caring that we really want in our existence so we looked at it again and then we said well what we're really after here is insight into who we are and what we're doing an insight became the name at that point we started revamping rapidly everything that we were doing we looked at it so critically that some people were taking offense personally because it present an idea and we look at that idea so critically we keep telling look the ideas out there it's not you're ok we're looking at the idea and it took quite a while for them to know they could put an idea out and have it be looked at taken apart put back together and it wasn't them we also got to see that sometimes we put ourself in the things where we don't belong and then when it goes bad we start to blame that out there as to the realizing it originated here and it's got to be resolved here it's that you get married you have another little thing added in there called your spouse this is a baby shows up you have another big thing added in there called the one who's going to lead the family from that point on you know you people th dartmoor they don't have children you may go ha ha ha ha and you people that are married to have children go yeah that's what happened so that no one's born this family changed real fast i would have to go why would i go running to see what happened and the baby knew that so started way in a lot then we get to be adults we keep doing the same type of thing one thing that amazed me in the story of the boy who cried wolf you of we've all done a similar thing in our lives that we have cried out falsely for things hoping to get a greater advantage than what was really do us and then when it really became necessary  the ones that we cried out to just said pass and we entered into a hurt i've told this story to a few people i remember the tale to new people remember the day and that day was very memorable because i was ten thousand feet elevation with my dad in a truck he was driving on the road slanted down like this one side and this side it was sort of straight down and we were on the top amazing thing is that the part he was in was on the slope beside the part that i was in was on the straight side so we're driving along at ten thousand feet elevation and i was having a hard time breathing anyway but i figured that was an opportune time because i had my dad on the straight and narrow i mean there's no way you could take a side road to digress and i asked him you know one of those starts out questions like dad i'd like to ask you a question now my dad raised me so i know he didn't raise a dummy and i also knew my dad was a dummy he had the brakes on that pickup truck now the car should have all right slid over to the slope side but it didn't slid over to the cliff side and the slid over hit the brakes that car just fishtailed over and i hit the side the door in the windows open and i looked down there was the down there there was some clouds ignition off on the truck my dad was known to waste gasoline talking to his sons pulled out a cigarette he smoked camels by the way no filter tip for that macho man he could have just as easily thought in that car door put a foot against me said  because my dad didn't need a lot of people whose life since your mother and i raised you the way we raised you and if there's something we didn't do or you didn't like something we did you're smart enough to change that started up the car and took off i was so grateful that he started up the car his message got home drove for quite a while is called the skyline drive that's where you're on the skyline and there's no other mountains higher you're up there and i kept flashing back on the cliff in i thought was the altitude but i honestly and truly scared go off a little ways down in the middle and he said i saw some deer over in the middle and i didn't know it at the time but see that was the way my dad had to say i love you now been easy on me if you said i love you and i've been fast out of got it he said let's walk right around here now shown to you now there i was shaking from a near disaster of dying on top of the mountain oh i fell off the cliff in my mind went down to the clouds and was mashed on the rocks and the imagination folks as wonderful as the fantasies are wonderful what you can do and they absolutely destroy you we walked around  to this day how ten miles up the road he knew do was going to hide behind that tree flick in one ear but he took me into a secret  i've been upon the road since and i've driven down there by this way my dad did it we walked down around here we walked around to the meadow walk to look the tree still there but no ears  or seven deer just come bounding out to see who was yelling to come in and out looking over at this he said now can you see the  dear dad if i know he can a crushed me out to him but not hard because after all that came bambi and his mother and his father and brothers and sisters is a beautiful me and you just if you're smart you take moment is drene call of that into all your senses way down inside of you and often i just recall back how he would share the loving in different ways and once a long long time ago when my father died by the way he got tired of my mother got tired just a little sooner she took off you know what he said my mother died he said you know you mothers like that should always go ahead and get the house cleaned up before i showed up and you know it was a throwaway statement just happened to be that's the truth we all sit there with tears coming down our eyes crying over all this thing is there's nothing to cry about she's ok we go we know she ok but it's so romantic the way you two have this love affair about how you fight make things work better i realized that my dad had that with everybody and i realized he learned it from my mother but i think he taught her how to teach him in the beginning this thing goes back into the mists of time it really gets down to i don't know who did it but i really so thankful that i was on the receiving of whatever well once i was on the end of his boot i don't know if i really appreciated that one but mostly well yeah i guess i do because it was for me that he did it wasn't  was to get my attention so he could talk to me is wonderful to have somebody that cares that much sometimes we're really blessed to have people in our lives who give us a legacy that endures every day and i was lucky to have a mother father that taught me and i knew i was going along to do things to me not catch it and that come with an around the corner and i remember my father telling my mother wishes he just keep coming back with these things she looked at him she said don't look at me as i suppose to be like my father well i was like i'm both the good good not the bad just the good the bad i developed on my own i mean if i'm good enough to be good i'm good enough to be bad what aren't we don't we all have that ability to do the bad so i can sit and see the intellectual imperative is to open the field of vision to see more of whatever is there that's the imperative that's going on across the  planet is amazing how we can come into a room with something that is just bothering us so that's right here that's how we can see the old cliche can't see the forest for the tree and then we get joy inside of the something happens it's beautiful and we don't care to see the forest that tree is so beautiful it represents the forest that's what love is that's what happens when you see that one that you can stand in front of and see the world by looking at them will be the one you marry and then you will love the world to that one now a few of us when we were younger we tried to love the world to each and every one of them there's there's too many take it from me there's too many the only thing i ever i can say ever respected i respect a few other things about errol flynn is when he cried because he can make love to all the beautiful women in the world well he can make love to all the ugly ones either so i did i just didn't figure why even bother crying about anything but there was he was negligent to not find the one and in the one love the many there is an old biblical quotation called love god with all your body mind and soul and your neighbor as yourself so what do we do as we really say i love god body mind soul and then rob the neighbor and if you stop to think about it the skull vision therapy love god with all your body mind and soul and your neighbor as yourself means you gotta love yourself because if you can love me like you love you i don't want that and i want you to really start loving you are fall off a lot when you're really loving you and your given you all the good things in life and creating more then start to share the love at that point we start to have this abundance of prosperity at that point i think we all can love god with all our body mind and soul because the physical world is taken care of but you understand the idea there some people have got it mixed up they've got yourself so far down the line you lack self esteem enough to pick yourself up we have to take and find out who we are as individuals and we can do it through mirrors we can look in the mirror and say that's me course when he gets older that's me too but older me or we can look at somebody who the foremost thing here is to be honest and that everything you say is going to be dropped right here in this room and we good that you are in is going to go out with you and all the bad you go and leave and we'll clean up the room after you leave we'll handle it oh well it gets to be a real challenge do i then there to show my goodness so each time you step a little bit more into your goodness and each time a little more a little more and at some point you declare this is my goodness and you rant and rave and go fanatically crazy and just yell  tell me how wonderful insight is in there running down the street to get away from it and you wonder why they're running away i got news for you they know crazy people when they see on the get out of here then you come into this training and we start to show you the strategies the correcting of the vision you get can you go this is it that's just another nonsense statement this is it for right now and that now has just passed and we're in a brand new one and what are you doing with this new one that just keeps showing up do you keep resurrecting the joy of your spirit if you keep allowing a space for you to regenerate yourself if you haven't you didn't get it if you are you're well on your way and you will keep transform and you will keep trance and one day you'll look at yourself in the mirror and see the one you've been looking for i don't know what you're going to do on that day you pyecraft the mere undoubtably you know take that mirror and frame it and think that's the only one that's going to show you anything rest assured a lot of the mirrors in life will reflect back to you have a very dear friend who took insight one they said it's a good training took insight and he said this is the best around because that really is the one that i started to wake up and know i was ok and i made that in a little special place called i won't forgive you and so just periodic he he dips back into himself by the group energy and comes forward newer more dynamic brighter more wonderful and he's my friend and i get to enjoy all that and i think that's terrific so when he's going to do something like that i encourage him to go for it do it do it do it because i'm very selfish when it comes out to get rid of some of those old nasty habits he's still got and get some newer ones that he will then make old nasty habits later on like we all do right and then he'll get rid of those and go get some new ones and the wonderful things that i had five years ago are real bad habits today and a few people want to know what does g r do in his spare time is getting rid of bad habits and cultivating new ones but i'm trying not to get him in the habit area i'm trying to get them in the spontaneous awake area but as soon as you get a laugh with a joke to me that he would repeat himself when he was head of a big corporation and you don't do things like that i need to tell this joke and we'd laugh and within about three or four seconds he was back in telling the joke and of course the member of the family would be going we all knew who were the brothers and sisters were in the room because we going to like this my mother said they're going like this she'd heard the joke so many times maybe ten thousand so i thought once and for all i'm going to cure my father my father knew enough for both of us but he didn't let let on like that for years and i said dad you just told that joke why did you repeat it in their brain the room got real quiet i was sure it was on their mind to and i said some of you not get the joke second time and half a dozen people raise their hand and you know what my dad did he told a joke again six of ten didn't get it they should it's a good joke you know and the third time i was laughing as hard as i was the first time but i didn't laugh a second time because i was embarrassed because of my because of my inability to understand that my dad knew how to tell jokes so everybody got it and i found out he would repeat things to people because he says people don't get it the first time say what and had  a very very nice way of saying you're not the brightest one in the neighborhood at least you'll have the information when i get through to you and he would repeat thank god he repeated to me i repeat i think it's genetics i think my dad might have granted him to me my mother must have been clapping in the sidelines because my look for her proves she was going very good you got it yes sir but never could tell his jokes like he could tell his jokes and i found out later my mother said he makes those up and what was funny is before that i often wondered where do jokes come from listen to this man talk and he would spontaneously with information that people would say he would make up a joke but his jokes always put the point over he would and would always be there would walk away you might not know what he said but you'd repeat the jokes and then you'd have the information is a wonderful way i found out that the key was humor not the joke humor because they laughed it was the humor when you're laughing and you're open the information gets in you found out we did a lot of things that were just spontaneously very funny and something you would get in you would even get in deeper to yourself and who you were inside there started getting out a little bit more and at some point it started they started to meet and there's that you enter a new start to me re amazed that people the room started to look different to you their faces would get clear and one you thought who wasn't so good looking also then was really quite nice looking and as you got clear and clear with your inner and outer it here's something very beautiful come out of them some part of you go our remember that that was good that was good and some of you open your books and start to write it down and able to suffer saw some of you  nudging the pursuit what was that need repeat what it was need to finish writing it down you sit there close your book and just gloat doesn't really gloat i was really wonderful to watch that i was going to call you breaking the rules onside talking but not when you're gloating over pleasure over game over enriching yourself nurturing yourself in letting yourself and that's all done because you cared enough to support yourself and you cared enough to say i want more in this life than what i am presently experiencing there is a real terrible truth that comes with our life sometimes people don't get this truth but i will tell it to you because if you do get it but time you get that door going out of here you're going to be making some changes the truth is this you've got exactly what you've got and you are exactly what you are because of all the things you've done up to this moment no more no less and if you're not happy with that you're going to have to change something because if you keep doing what you've been doing what you've got now will continue right on into your future and it will be as bleak as it looks and feels right now or given that you've made the changes it'll be as wonderful as you've got it going right now given that you don't revert back i just hope people be eager eaters just go out to just chunk off the next one of a dozen doing a good swallow and get for another one before that taste settles in your mouth being to another one most people don't live their life fully alive fully aware fully human they don't exist in the complacency of the comfort of what used to be and in that they declare security folks that's  it's falling apart around you our security all of it is to keep that advancement moving forward on some front in your life in some front when you start to go see now get into an insight seminar at least you'll do it happy but there's a darn good chance that you'll be challenged with a vitality a view your eternal essence and you'll call your personality into order real fast and you'll make that mind of yours start to the grave get up and get going again because there's no end when you declare the end and you're still walking around you lied it's you can't live a lie and you can't live with a liar when somebody says it's too hard i can't do it just see what they need to nurture them so well maybe you need two more minutes of rest here they go thank you for caring i do need the rest don't run your rules of what it should be somebody else but look into have a compassionate heart and look into but three and a half weeks ago i had a couple get divorced and i said to her why are you going to get divorced as i can't do anything to please him everything i do he doesn't like so well scratch his back why you think he's turned his back toward you do me a favor really do me a favor she suggests anything i say go scratch his back she's alright for god's sake i'll go scratches back i said don't make because she was going to scratch his back you got to stand hooked on back scratch she told me he loved to have his back how did you know he loved to have his back scratch i said because all men love to have their backs so what about the women i says they love to have their back scratched also i says but be creative about this is what i said there are ways we can scratch each other's backs at the same time i said think i think maybe the wow turned into mom fact i'd be willing to bet i don't gamble so i bet on see these are this little tiny things they don't amount to anything in this world except they make this world do you understand that your joy in this world one amount to anything in this world but it'll make this war get the difference it'll make the world it's much bigger because you're going to go up to somebody and you're going to treat them nice they're going to turn around and treat somebody else nice and maybe somebody down the line is going to thwart it so you can have to go back to them nice  and personal get further and further down the line if we took that awareness of loving and turned around and significantly shared it with two others and they along with the original to share it with more i think it was something like thirty two to thirty three days you could have a planet full of loving dancing people who'd be singing and dancing good gravy could we stand that well let's just do that many in a year thirty three years you could have i'd like to be in the music business because it can be a lot of records to be so law that dancing is going to be a lot of music playing like being a shoe business with all that dancing is going to have a lot of issues my entrepreneurial instincts forward but even of that not that with all the singing that we do in our own form of dancing i think we'd be glad to see each other i am looking for the day and i have i found a while for everybody but i found out now that i got to be careful hanky blew my nose i figured we're family then they just looked at me they said that's really neat you're human aren't you i go yeah yeah i mean human we know you're difference not television i said i wear make i said no i said having the screened you have it so that's eighteen inch i said i'll get a great big six foot when i'm bigger than life and that i look entirely different big screen and they said oh you're just like that aren't you have fun eyes of course start to laugh and joke with them here they come up strangers in minutes we have friendship going we start talking about the intimate things instead of bantering to keep them off so they can get me and it hurts but every time he comes back to play i know he didn't know that so i've trained him now he goes leave i say cheerio no kickoffs he knows we needs a closet tucked him pussy have to train him his kick off was against me it was for wherever he was going you have to remember that with people when they leave you it isn't the rejection of you it's the position of where they're going the new thing they're going for system on their way help them go they'll be back see the thing that's important here is if you give good information good clean information and good nurturing clean information how far do you think people are going to go until they come back for more of that if you're having marital problems with your wife your husband you be the best in bed she can he can find a simple as that no matter where they go to have to be back there good so they won't go because of the disappointing they'll stay that's very important they don't like to eat with you learn how to cook cook the food the way they like or not the way you think they should like it there is a thing here called you can please people without sacrificing your own integrity you can please them out of a loving and caring for their happiness and then that you'll maintain your integrity and there's also see a big word i take a big important secret never come in with a great big bright light of how bright you are because you may be walking in a room of darkness and that bright light will make him turn away to hide in the darkness and then all the good things you got form won't be able to be used so go in there is a friend who cares and show me that you care and don't manipulate them but show them how to manage their life to a higher efficiency rate of return so what they put out they get back at a really efficient rate and how to use their life more efficiently and in that just are asking voltaire was a real religious man i'm sure he's a very spiritual man my mother use the word light but i think that if we let the people see the spirit that we work with  loving that is ingrained in their spirit that that that's inside them will select them to learn more and if they don't and they walk to a different beat love them because who knows maybe one day you might walk to that same beat you never know do you just take this day that comes love and love the people in it in rejoice because tomorrow the day is coming right along and what you got today leave it here and pick up tomorrow and take the good with you and amplify it because tomorrow's got a lot of good gifts and why it's christmas every day on this planet john rogers closing words for pay rush pay shana which mean the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you've heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book about john roger and m s i 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