little complex well of course give you all the details finally got those referenda but better news from bermuda where which has been ordered by yet another court to restore marriage equality although that's not over either a transgender migrant fleeing persecution then died of neglect and the beating and ice custody this was back in may while the united states is now gassing toddlers at the border troops the thanksgiving parade got its first lesbian kiss and we're going to recall an earlier liberation of the event december first this saturday is world aids day we'll give you some and we will show you singer shawn mendez is talking about the rumors that he has a sexual orientation that is homosexual and again usa exclusive on barry manilow yes left over from our great guest rob shuter last week for more when we get to that at the end of the show we start in taiwan now what happened in taiwan the court ordered them last year to government was dragging its rear on this and not doing it not getting down to business on it they they passed some new law about referenda the right wing religious took advantage of it and got all got these referenda on the ballot and not just the taiwanese right wing but the american right wing because the alliance defending freedom of the national organization for marriage all the usual suspects got into the game and started pouring millions of dollars into taiwan to oppose any equality for same sex couples our side our side also put up some referenda froze same sex marriage there was another one on gay curriculum which was  related to us three of them or about marriage two of them more about education but the bottom line is we got skunked i mean we lost the we lost the marriage thing seventy two percent oppose same sex marriage  sixty one percent opposed to us on the curricular thing and we just didn't get it anywhere near the votes we needed on the on the others over here it is twenty five percent of the electorate to show up to pass these things and they not only did while we did see sort of when one of these referenda because one of the options offered on couples was a civil unions law and that that's not what we want it's not what we want but it passed well the point is they had to do something the court wasn't going to let them do nothing for gay couple people the court said you have to have yes basically marriage and people voted against marriage they don't have to vote for these were advisory  thought we you but we can still go to court and say to the constitutional court headway you know use you these are advisory referenda decide just said but the issue is that the government is going to propose probably a civil unions law because that's what people voted for and then we're going to have to decide whether to go to the court and ask for full marriage rights as opposed to the civil unions law and the court is going to have to decide whether or not civil the civil unions law is an adequate fulfillment of their order that to ban same sex marriage is unconstitutional against the taiwanese constitutional guarantees of equality what i've read and you could correct me is that if the legislature continues to do nothing that marriage equality goes into effect in may of two thousand and while that was the original scheme but the quote but the point is that this was not a binding referendum and no it wasn't but when the government does step up at which it is much more likely to do that not and proposes the civil union law then what happens well doesn't fulfill the court's mandate or doesn't well and the court and the could change its mind the court could read the handwriting on the wall and decide that they would allow this to stand as the civil unions law and not mandate full marriage rights the government is in a bit of disarray of these who rejects china's claim that taiwan is part of china well one of the reasons she lost power was because these referenda brought out the conservative voters as in the united states in two thousand and four are the bush administration making sure anti same sex marriage votes were on the ballots in states around the country brought out conservative vote yes i resist that and that interpretation i mean this is the law that is why they did it that is why they put it on the ballot call rove one of them on the ballot in this case yes but it's questionable it also could it also could activate our side and say hey we're trying to protect our friends well i think we were not prepared for that and i think we lost most  election yes we did so well so a similar thing happened in taiwan and the president in the face of all these right wing votes on the referendum lost some power in her purity better news from bermuda sure the saga of bermuda the court ordered them to do same sex marriage last year and they had it for a while and then the government said we don't want this and we're going to do civil unions so they did they became the first national government in the world to repeal sexually same sex marriage california voters did it as well but and then it was restored so that it then our side went back to court again and had been winning and the latest win was at their court of appeal and the only appeal that the government still has if they want to try to stop marriage equality is to go to the privy council in london because they're part of the commonwealth and the court of appeal said you can't have a day on this you got to start doing it again you guys are doing same sex marriage again now the twist on this is that the lawyers for the plaintiffs in this case who are suing for same sex marriage said that they found a new way to go forward on the grounds of freedom of conscience and the glorious lady this was her brother lucia narry approach and it could be used elsewhere including in the cayman islands which is going to hear a case in february says as opposed to relying on specific nondiscrimination laws for sexual orientation to bermuda constitution does not protect sexual orientation but the more it does and well the constitution protects freedom of conscience and that's how they argued this case as the united states does not nationally protect sexual orientation and discrimination and except maybe in an interpretation we're still waiting for title seven or title mine  and the decision of the marriage case in the supreme court the you know burger fell decision did not rely on sexual orientation not discrimination law and relied on equal protection and  court there are decided that same sex couples can use assisted reproduction and both be designated as parents of a child under that process that's good to go back to domestic news been then go back to international now i see i was about to go through all the marriage news internationally sure ok my mistake oh it's all right trump all right well before we get to the pinch hit for cindy hyde smith and she still has the holds the distinction of being and this is a dubious distinction the most races senator in the united states i would argue that there are so many to choose from she's more overt so well sure that i think a lot of them have said some very racist things anyway trump's big move this last week was against again transgender people in the military now that he's got the supreme roberts he's now trying to leapfrog the lower courts and go directly to his packed supreme court to get them to lift the injunctions against his proposed  this item i thought was a little light because i didn't see any mention the fact that transfer people are serving in your current way in the military and that everything he's done has not stopped that and technically under the law but but they're there they are making their lives miserable so let's be clear and the williamson institute estimates there are fifteen thousand plus trams people serving in the military most of them not out oh absolutely but they're there and trump with all his new variant has not succeeded in getting rid of any of them yet and they're serving happily and  and this is all nonsense and i suspect he is not going to succeed in his attempt to leapfrog regular system and then there's the office of personnel management they have now with the obama guidance on gender identity and they say that they are saying that gender specific jobs in federal government should be assigned according to biological sex now what jobs are they talking about i don't know but they also have been put in some general statement of nondiscrimination well they left the obama executive order on l g b t in place but they're doing everything they can to sort of i mean absolutely the gender identity guidance page was all about how to support and protect transgender workers and that has now gone from there their website and then there's all the stuff going on at the border of course this was the week that they approved lethal force at the border and  and we read about more about the transgender asylum seeker who died at the border roxana hernandez rodriguez thirty three years old transferred woman from honduras had been in and out of the united states several day they originally government autopsy said that she had died of complications of hiv and dehydration but then her representatives commissioned a second autopsy and the news is that they found these bruises and evidence of her having been beaten in they're saying in ice custody now in fact this is a private prison system where she was being kept and so between ice in the private prison system she was beaten to death and that has been revealed just by this outside second autopsy so they're the advocates are suing the government always a tough thing to do but they're children toddlers being gassed at the border i mean my this picture has been all over the world and there's absolutely appalling and but it was nice to see this week that anti government militia leader a to it's no skin tone out there being very short sighted because if we don't continue to enrich the population of the united states with immigration this country is going to shrivel and die much quicker it's certainly happening right now before our eyes well also on the border that's a segue in tucson arizona a widower michael eli sixty five years old has represented by lambda legal is filing for social security survivor's benefits he was married to his partner james taylor they were together for forty three years and as soon as marriage became legal in arizona and two thousand and fourteen they got married within three weeks after legalization but then james died six months later but you can only get survivor's benefits if you've been married for nine months nine months and so social security turned him down now the late husband was the prime breadwinner for the family and so getting his survivor benefits is extremely important and so m now suing and saying we were together for forty three years who were not allowed to get married there are a number of these cases working their way through the courts and there was even the case of a guy who had had a commitment ceremony who was ordered by the court to pay a divorce settlement many years later from somebody broke up with twenty years ago so we'll see how this all plays out and in virginia norfolk virginia firefighter scott phillips gartner fifty five years old is suing the city he was he was a firefighter for many years he married his boyfriend four years ago when he was fifty one and he then was incredibly harassed demoted from his job  transferred to interland and really forced out forced to resign so he is now suing the city of norfolk for that kind of treatment i had a couple of other trip nodes  suppression he goes way back and he's been doing a lot of stuff in the last decade as well so mike pence would have to break a tie to get him through that's the bad news and you know people have taught told us lately it's very hard to listen to all this stuff and so very depressing but i want you to think about the fact that when the democrats take power in the house in january there are five house committees that are going to investigate that's a good boss and among them is maxine waters who is going to go after him after her for violations of civil rights including of transgender rights and mark to cano the out gay representative from california who's going to look at how she did rail the benefits of tens of thousands of  veterans we lost a fundamentally important activist this week ray hill from houston he he died in seventy eight he was a legendary activist now he was a teen of angeles a jewel thief went to prison for four years the and then came out and started a radio show called the prison show he was absolutely legendary for his support of people in prison he went to the supreme court to fight for his right to yell at cops who are harassing people a won that was a fundamentally important decision he he was known as a citizen provocative or in one nine hundred seventy seven he got involved with the fight against anita bryant who was trying to get rid of us and she well she was successful in the first referendum against l g b to rights florida in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight he and others convened something called town meeting one in houston and that was the big organizing meeting for the community in houston many organizations came out of that and it was that he was very involved in the marches on washington and that one at one of them i believe i think it was the how to be the eighty seven march mashable congress while we were down there for the march on washington he was very serious about democratizing the movement and making it national he hung out with harvey milk with edward all be with tennessee williams he h parents what he was young he was very well dressed and his parents were very afraid he would grow up to be a republican and they were very relieved when he told them that it no i'm not a revolver and i'm gay and he was quite a character lovely guy and i just remember had this it's not particularly game or have we all went out to a chinese restaurant together after a meeting and he just says he says to the owner of the place we have six dollars do your best order anything he said so i made a documentary about him called the trouble with ray and we have excerpt from it that has some wonderful stories at it so we wanted to share that with you attitude in regard to sex i came out in the late fifties and i got away with everything but i made damn sure that everybody knew that i would say gay and since i've talked about it it was so much a weapon they could use in my presence everybody said it was courage the courage to be honest but i think that the line between courage and insanity or madness  my official name is raymond wayne not injured i was born in bad to small memorial hospital which was across the street from city  of the patrons would be like in a line up people just wince when i say this but to the gay movement the bars were want the churches were to black movement it was the only institution they would have us happy and so as long as we were contained in bars they didn't have to worry about the lobbies of the banks and their desk in their loss or their hospital but that also made it easy murphy of the vice squad his wife left him for a big lesbian by the name of a big seal well we all knew big seal and he being the lieutenant in the vice squad raided the lesbian bars to kind of get even so the cops would come in and arrest everyone men in the bar who had pancakes with zippers or buttons in the front the zipper was on the side you're all right and zipper was in the back you were right but if the zipper was in the front that was perceived by the police officers to be cross dressing so when the cops would come ian all of the women would go to the women germ and turn their pants around and i don't know if you've seen or heard of lesbians with levis on backwards but it is not a pretty sight but brother or your sister and say i'm hurting we haven't always thought about  we think a lot differently about that and you're welcome i'm glad you have played a role in that i certainly didn't do that by myself and i made so many damn fool mistakes that i could talk about those but i don't because i get to write this script and if you get t where a hill seventy eight there will be a funeral memorial service for him on the steps of city hall in houston this sunday at two pm a nice partner regarded him as her mentor a true pioneer pioneer now pioneering moment happened at the thanksgiving day parade it's hard to believe it's twenty eighteen but you know they they showed a scene from the musical the prom which i ha been promoting as the best musical on broadway and at the actually show the scene where the two women young women at the prom kiss and this was you know considered a breakthrough the right wing went nuts said that millions of small children were exposed to this but most of the people just enjoyed it well it turns out the thanksgiving day parade has an enormous audience it's one of the highest rated shows of all over there to do when you're cooking the turkey and things you watch the thanksgiving i got to watch it in person for the first time in my life this year hasn't been lately so this was not the first liberation of the parade that would have been back in two american psychiatric association finally stopped calling gay people a disease and as soon as we were seen as a civil rights movement that was the change we were not just a person here a person there you know these devi it was this is an illegitimate minority the war was won in my opinion and it's these little battle along came the wonderful institution macy's asking if i would be in the thanksgiving day parade as edna i mean since i was a kid i wanted to be in the thanksgiving day parade and i wanted to hold one of the balloons and be one of the clowns i mean i never thought i'd actually ride on the float i mean  people i thought would the world turn against this person and it seemed like a perfect subject for a so i wrote it so i wrote a piece and i sent it to the to the times a couple of weeks before the political statement or that is the you know there's a difference between harvey writing in the times and you know there were two different events one was that i was going to ride in the parade that's purely entertainment one was that i wrote an op ed piece i didn't expect to marry the two things together on that morning i was i was certainly asked about it and there was fine i wasn't there but you know it was in was in the macy's day parade to make a political statement i was saying what if and that was the point of that article what if santa claus was gay what his image be torn down wouldn't get rid of that man in the red suit would you do all of that what would happen probably the truth is it just go into denial with everybody else white the controversy at the time i think people would accept santo's gave these days but i agree with them i think some people would just be in denial set up asses again santa claus is white who is that  a way kid out a way well right back to the bad news you know in boston we told you that somebody was making threatening phone calls to gay bars in their seventies saying he was going to shoot up the bars well an unnamed sixteen year old from new hampshire has been arrested in the case he's got a bunch of outstanding warrants so he's being held as a fugitive from justice but the manager of the alley bar which is one of them or rocco monica told the boston herald nobody wants to prosecute someone and ruin someone's life he hopes he will see that we're not the end of be and they'll see that it's ok to be who you are well ok but you know we just used to call places and say is your refrigerator running w well i do want to say something can we get you know there it is but but no what it says it says please stop your gay agenda so are bigots becoming more polite they're saying now they are going to repaint the mirror also soon and i think it was actually a lovely you know when they put up the stonewall statues in sheridan square to a lesbian couple of the gay couple people said it's going to be a sconce and source of vandalism i said but they go after the structures that they go after us but i don't remember them ever being there was a little vandalism but nothing major it's the george segal statues people that more upset of the fact that they were so they white white white as the tall guy it's going to be on december first at the judson memorial church there on washington square south december first at new noon to three pm on saturday and next wednesday here is the big event the reclaim pride town hall meeting wednesday seven to nine pm december fifth this is the meeting where we're going to get everybody together to start getting really detailed about our organization for the march the stonewall fifty march for human rights and social justice that we're going to hold next june i think we're really gaining momentum on this i think it's going to be huge lots of people are starting to get involved and come on board full disclosure we're involved and we have made that clear all along but if you're if you want to hear more about the organizing of this start joining a committee to get some stuff done there are lots of different things to do and i don't feel like coming to new york wait let me just give them the details sure reclaim pride town hall meeting wednesday seven to nine pm at the people's forum three twenty west thirty seventh street we meet there every wednesday night but the town hall meeting next week is going to be a big one between eighth and ninth avenues but one of the things we're emphasizing here if you're hearing us all over the world how about have a march on june thirtieth the last sunday in june in new york ten yeah it's commemorating the all celebrating the stone wall and i mean far and ites we need to fight today and tomorrow right this should be i mean we know you all have pride march and most of you have pride marches and right down to your little town but on june thirtieth we should all be out marching across the world for a stonewall fifth there's a sound a little grandiose well this is what we think we need to do is an international movement you hear everywhere you go bail that they will come yes you do yes they will all right plaza to city hall ok all right in writer university in new jersey the school removed chick fil a from a survey of restaurants the students might want to have the first out gay or lesbian sure in the whole state of california shannon moon fifty years old who worked in the department for twenty eight years was elected sheriff and she has been out since high school graduations all right international news yes in hong kong the legislative council by a narrow vote of twenty seven to twenty four rejected equal rights for same sex couples in china last week we told you about the novelist who was sentenced to ten years for putting a gay sex scene in her novel ten years well now the government is offering eighty six thousand five hundred dollar rewards for snitching on people who publish pornography the government is also stepping up raids on publishers bookstores and internet cafes to find illegal content in northern ireland on the court decision on marriage equality it has been postponed until next year and in costa rica marriage for same sex couples will become a reality in may of twenty twenty because they just finally finalize the decision the rule says it takes effect in eighteen months or the government can do something soon back to china for a second dolce and gabbana those miserable creatures had to publicly apologize to china for a series of racist promo videos for their fashion show in shanghai which had to be canceled over this because that was so toxic you know they of course had to apologize when they said the people shouldn't be parents these are gay people who said this so long as we're in china in nother story from hong kong a married gay man is suing for housing rights and benefits that are available to opposite sex couples in the united kingdom they're debating a gender recognition law to streamline the process of changing your birth certificate in new zealand in auckland new zealand the pride parade there is in an uproar because police officers in uniform have been banned from the pride parade and the police the army major corporate sponsors are pulling out of the parade  minneapolis in toronto in london they have banned cops in uniform from the pride parade since the controversy currently in new york for next year has been for a couple of years heard your pride committee just insist that you know everybody can march we're having a civil rights march where i don't think uniformed officer there's going to be allowed all were happy to happen to have people who happen to be cops but i don't think police officers are allowed to march in demonstrations maybe not but  it's a big controversy in new zealand in russia the european court of human rights says that russian courts have been wrong to reject requests to hold pride parades we'll russia which won the national book award here in the united states but is not making it through customs i mean right the way president sebastian pinera signed a bill to let trans people over fourteen update their legal documents according to their true true gender and this really gives me hope because this is a fascist country and a pinochet and now look how far they've come so maybe i'm over come our fashions period and have a period of opening and look and the ban a few months ago so now delhi has held its first pride parade since that was overturned and it's the biggest one in a long time thousands of people showed up and it was a huge success and i just thought this guy was so striking and had struck the anti cross dressing law public crossdressing well the president of guyana has applauded that decision and says that he wants to institute a robust education campaigns about human rights he wants to publicly all over the country that would be fantastic not sure what kind of education is needed here but you know gareth thomas the rock is the rutgers me yes yeah he player he hired he was gay bashed in cardiff and sales yeah so the teams in wales and france were wearing rainbow laces and support of him a sixteen year old boy another sixteen year old was arrested for this and for the for the bashing but some of the england players that's who does most of the bashing is teenage and early twenty's guys of all kinds racists bashing gay bashing  a mexican couple living in new york are the first same sex couple allowed to marry at the mexican consulate here in new york and they got a special ruling to allow them to do so in new york city and there they are getting married congratulations to them in the german car don't care hard you are not the mule one of the we have he blames a mafia like homosexual network for the catholic church is is world aids day december first and there are saturday activities pool across the globe there are let me mention a few in new york because that's what we know about because we're here and in fact the  community center here is starting on friday nov thirtieth the day before the official day with a commemoration of and in the afternoon from four to seven pm celebration of people living with the virus and they're offering free h i v testing conducted by the mt sinai adolescent program and a lot of organizations that offer services to people living with hiv are going to show up and inform people about the  services that's friday four to seven pm at the community center not on world aids day itself since we do have an aids memorial now on seventh avenue at twelfth street at four thirty they're going to have something called light the fight with projections by vigil a candlelight vigil at the memorial there on twelve straight in seventh avenue and then there is a procession to st john's church on christopher storey eighty one christopher street where they're going to be reading the names of people who have died and have performers and speakers so that's six thirty on saturday at st john's on crystal s v a theater down the block from us at seven thirty west twenty third street three thirty three ministrations present for world aids day is is to not publicize the fact that if you want to sign up for the n c a a again this year we've shortened the time period you could do it on the federal registry for the a c a it now expires on december fifteenth so if you need the federal website you've got to do it by december fifteenth if you want to sign up for the a c l u in a place like new york we have our own marketplace and you can do it until january thirty first but so pay attention to this because your home for insurance is at risk well the other thing they're doing is you know how they promise to cut the prices of prescription drugs well they're going to do it with medicare by reducing the number of drugs available on the formularies so that  this is particularly hurtful to people with hiv because people are so different in the drugs that work for them so you need a wide range of drugs available but they're only going to make a few drugs available on the grounds that will be cheaper but this is not something that people are crazy about killing us all well carl smith from the aids institute says the trumpet ministration proposals bad medicine dangerous to people living with hiv not all age i v medications of the same care part d program is working well for people with hiv and there is no reason to take these draconian act and they hate and you know whatever well a new report out about  gay or bisexual teen boys using prep awareness has risen quite a bit in the last few years and summed up to fifty five percent now but if any of this covered by insurance but of course a lot of teen boys don't want to say to their parents i want to get on pup and that's what the under your insurance so and if you want to pay for it yourself it could be two thousand dollars a month or so and there has been no real national campaign on teenagers and prep getting them on it the way there has been for some other things well and there's a slow climb for everyone else too and then there's this crazy story out of china of this scientist who claims he edited a gene in an embryo to prevent hiv transmission from an infected father to the child he was conceiving with the mother and everybody's up in arms because they said this is malpractise and you're tinkering with nature and you didn't have to do it in this case because there are other ways to prevent hiv transmission and now no one even knows whether he's telling the truth about what he did it's crazy it was literally called crazy by some of the other scientists so we should we  think we have time to run this tape all right so the sero project run by shawn strootman others is a great project mostly about criminalization of h i v and they hold an annual conference called we the positive summit held this year in jackson mississippi and out of it they made this tape that was people with hiv talking about their experience with the virus and it's called sing your song people living with hiv networks changed lives on team on those are like the closest people in my life and i'm told i'm not one of those people some kind of like trying to educate myself like prepare need to know what can i do to stop just a right  in those people you know that it's so strange to me that as good as things are medically and people are living longer and all that social stigma against people with hiv is rising how do i open up about that which is the most challenging thing in me and that is that i'm living with aids every how do i take that and turn it out being involved with other people having with h l v that's what does it for me the one voice makes you look like you're just crazy and you're just angry and you're just permanently damaged but two voices begins they're going to have a totally different tone about it and three and four five and six seven voices standing in the same public imo voice is powerful it woke me up united states it is so let's move on to entertainment where you all have a chance to see k d lang december fourteenth she's going to be great performances doing her landmarks live concert there and then they're going to stream it as well as she's going to do her album twenty five years ago at the majestic theater in san antonio so check that out yeah including things like constant craving a big hit from that album i noticed the death of bernardo bertolucci and what that sat in here a couple of times has written about the trends and body building in documentary man made which you can see for the new yorker quite an extensive piece and you can see that december twelfth at the community center here at sununu fest bent young singer sean member is took to you tube to clarify that he's not gay but it shouldn't matter and we'll include the link it's a short video we'll send it with our e mail just sign up barry manilow hyaline here in new york on the left his assistant mark hulett on the right rob shuter is husband bruce sussman who is the songwriting partner of barry manilow they wrote copacabana together so they're all hanging around at rob and bruce's apartment barry and marc and barry says i'd like to go up on the highli there are tourist buses and locals singing story rob