insisted that they change the name from manchester i suppose not to be confused with new hampshire but that's neither here nor there anyway it's manchester connecticut well yeah in any case this is about  suburban boston isn't that on quincy quincy massachusetts and he's gotten the bad news that his brother has died and left him in charge of finances and his nephew who is going to school in manchester by the city which is quite a distance from where the uncle is living so this causes a lot of problems he doesn't really want to take care of the kid don't want to move he's urge by the lawyer to think about it and gradually by turns he winds up there at least temporarily he thinks taking over affairs were includes approach that has to be fixed up and a number of other things the interesting thing about this film is it's kind of flashes forward and backward in time so you get a picture of why the casey affleck character would just name me lee why lead is so down in the dumps most of the time he just seems to be although he deals with people all the time in his daily work he's just kind of disconnected emotionally from from people he's divorced see he's not very connected with  one way or another but it's a kind of film that turns up a number of surprises which can be very revealing and at the same time very emotionally involving it involves a tragedy or two which i must say took me by surprise and i was very affected by the events that take place and by the acting which is very low key interesting very subtle yet this is one film where i feel that the past and so the flashbacks are more psychologically motivated by his remembering good times and bad times in the past brought up by things that are happening in the present and his life is also as you could see  had was fractured or completely broken up at one point in his life and he still has a put the pieces together yet so he's thematic the animal only very very apt affleck is thinking and something comes up and then he starts thinking about but they don't clearly didn't very very much by the editing process did any of you find it confusing it's never confusing but there's one s because of these kind of flashbacks where he's sitting in the attorney's office and there are particular scenes from a nap a sort of his wife but her quick flashes quick lashes back and says are you see his thought process where he's distracted by the interruption of was very important because this is obviously this sort of very small town where everybody knows everybody everybody knows everybody's history and you can't escape it which is one of the reasons why we find it difficult to go home is because he is going somewhere where he has some sort of indelible incident has happened and we will say why exactly but indelible incident i know in princeton which is probably a bigger town returning to town and trying to pick his wife up again on the other hand i think it was his brother's scheme in leaving him the guardianship of their son to get him back to town to get dramatic you know it wasn't at all like that it was loving and i also think that placing it in massachusetts is very it's very it's a very specific place and you know there's a whole series of movies and novels that are are placed in massachusetts the particularly dennis lehane a movie is based on this lane where massachusetts is a very important state or working  what they have there in this is specially this area of messages that says what he calls white working class privilege and what does casey ethics character lose but that he loses it all and key is just never going to heal he's just not going to get stronger he's not going to overcome this that he's lost everything i think it took over is also interesting to me that the two suburbs that are mentioned are parts of boston that i mentioned where he has with his first job and then later on a second job are our privacy and charlestown which are two very specific white working class but they do show that he has difficult relations with his has it seems like the one emotion that he does allow himself is anger and that takes lots of just forms of yelling at this woman but also violence  he is nothing if not self controlled in fact to the point of the well well up to a certain point he is i think i think he affleck said this in an interview this character is you think it was misplaced or music i think it was very pointedly put in there to contrast with the other parts that are more violent or more tragedy he's playing up the emotion and i think appropriately because this is the whole movie revolves around bad and you need to feel that tragic emotion were you thinking it was more manipulate you this is not saying that this is the music they'd be listening to right or that would be in his hair tomorrow but if showing that he's trying to show that when a tragedy absolutely of it was that that underlined that to me that this horrible tragedy i think maybe this is the tragic brother dying but life goes on and everybody is going about their ordinary business even though everybody knows about that affected by it except the primary people the yeah i am i can't remember the scene but that got across to me and some polish at the funeral where he sort of the it was sort of outside people that the incident was his fault and some people did not and it was just a tragedy and others are blaming him but i also think that it even if someone is not to blame there can be a reaction to  that was where you could see actually the characters kind of relax yes not only have flashbacks but the nephew obviously has a relationship with the boat that that symbolizes for him the sort of freedom that you have been outside of town and you're out on the water you're out of your you're out of the structure and that you can feel somewhat free and the associates that with you know his father and their time together that they were alone having fun fishing and that that's why i can't let go of the boat and that was very wise of him i think he needed the boat he needed the good times the good times and the reason that is cause some degree of conversation about this film is the humor and there's a lot of humor and yes fifteen year old boys and me in those flashbacks that you mentioned before in those flashbacks basically under these layers of agony and so in the relationship he has with this is that you and you see him fooling around in the time on the boat from the time the nephew is seven or eight it's they still have that same sort of bantering o things i do yeah there's a lot of a lot of insulting back and forth which is a way that sometimes maybe particularly men can express affection for each other at least  the humor i guess he was trying to show this as naturalistically as possible what tragedy does to you it isn't like in fiction when you know you get some kind of a release and you move on you can move forward but you can't move about somebody who has died and how it effects the people who are left right and maybe how it always affects the people who affects them throughout their life yes that it's not just a grief period and then everything's ok i think playing that we do yeah sort of been trained to think we're going to get that well i think that that there there is this is a theory of the stages of grief and he keeps showing people who are stuck at one part of it they haven't moved to the next step of you know many steps there are supposedly they've stuck and they can't get out of it they're just spinning their wheels in one place and it needs something like this movie it needs some sort of other things happening in your life to move to the next step which in this he does in a tiny tiny where we just showed you how how i mean i think i thought at the end of the film so i want to hear what you said that it is absolutely true one would never be able to wake up any single morning and not remember that this happened i think it was wonderfully actually p a by the fact that at some point at some point patrick who has been sort of at loggerheads with his uncle who goes into his uncle's room and looks at some some family pictures on the sin in catholicism you can be forgiven but that's a totally even human thing that there really for this maybe some people could could forgive themselves but i don't think you're right i don't think most people could forgive themselves that they wouldn't be so even if he was totally not for i think any any one who loses people in this kind of way couldn't help but feel some tinge of guilt that they're not also dead yes and also that they how can they move on when it's their duty to remember yeah they have it's their job to forgives him and yes i agree i think she at least wants to say that maybe i'm going on this well it doesn't it doesn't lay very well with him i mean for him and it's not a relief  she wants she feels guilty about how she treated him and she thinks she needs to she needs to relieve her own guilt yeah sure visa v him right and that just shows you how different people react  keep it in some ways this is a release for her yeah that and enabled her to you know get that out and then maybe be able to give herself more to h the whole situation of everyone who has ever sat in and the university breathes particularly grief after tragedy i mean i think there was grief for everybody s people who really know how to structure would like also had yeah i structure with holes in the timeline that make you have to a very very reticent people with very strong feelings where you have to kind of fill in for that for get them great film great film by a great filmmaker and i want to see more and he was in it too i