about what it takes to be a dietitian and things that we could improve on in our lives so to jump right into it how much schooling or what do you do to become and stay a dietician well first i want to thank you for having me i think this is and it takes a lot of work it takes a lot of science and interest in your body because what you need to know is how food affects every organ so that's a big thanks curve right you have to have four years of graduate  undergraduate school and one year of an internship and then you have to sit in this big test and even after that then you have to like every year you have to continue with continuing that credits so you always have to learn because nutrition things change all the time so it's an ongoing thing i've been doing this now for close to thirty five years i've been doing it so things change all the time what was good one year is going to be different the next year so you have to really keep up with it  do you think that it would be a good career for other people to look into yes especially for a lot of reasons one because where the food we eat is so different now than it was and people aren't coming it's a lot of fast food a lot of packaged food so we have an increase in allergies we have an increase in obesity we have an increase in diabetes and it really all stems from the fact that we don't grow our food anymore in that way to rely on other people to make it so what they put in it is hurting us so would really be helpful in my profession to start the christian education at a very young age but we need people to help us do that so i think it's yes definitely worthwhile if you like math and science because like i said it's biochemistry  lista and other stuff yes the diabetes is complicated but it's like the fastest growing disease right now and it stems from really really bad food and not so much sugar as you would think because of diabetes but it comes from or having awful lot of carbohydrates in general and most of our foods now even the juices are very sweet we don't have fresh fruit anymore it's like  smoothies and then just wait concentrated and sure so to take this much to make this much orange juice you may need four or five hours oranges but if i gave you four or five oranges you just couldn't eat them is just too much it's not the way meant to be so it's i our food is really hurting us because the number one enemy is sugar for sure yeah that's what i would say so going back to our first question for people who may not know what is the difference between a dietician and a nutritionist attrition is two so it's it's a very wide bucket and doesn't mean the same as a registered dietitian so if you want to really go the route of you know full on science and math and really know and be hired in a hospital be taken seriously then you have to become a registered dietitian so what's the number one thing you learned about yourself or something that you for being a tide you know it's interesting question because when i was going to school i went to high school i like math and science and i just did well in it and my guidance counselor said to me well you should be a dietician and i said ok well what is that  to spell it and you know anything about it and i went to school and i did well and it wasn't until i went through my internship i realized what a dietician was so it just by chance i happen to like cooking and eating and i like to be healthy  mom was a farmer so we had always had fresh fruits and vegetables so really just by chance i liked nutrition it didn't i didn't go into it liking dishes and i developed a love for food and science and bringing it together what i but you really could teach them and help them a lot i'm in a position that i have a lot of time spend with people and i really enjoy that i learned that i really enjoy that what does your job until so in the mornings i see pregnant women and babies and that's like the highlight of my day so they become bigger and bigger and bigger and then they pop in and get this little baby and then i help them because i'm also electrician consult and i help them with their first food so it's a really great honor to be able to the baby's first food that i'm part of that and it's really really sweet in the afternoon contracts while most afternoons do but i see a lot of adults with diseases are related to food so that morning you know just a little bit more joyful in the afternoon that there's that joyful it's just know you're trying to tell people what not to do whereas in the morning i'm hoping to help them do it not do it from the beginning if you had success helping these people yes i've had success in teaching them  i used to feel badly if they didn't lose weight or their blood sugar was in control of their cholesterol didn't work out or they had some stomach problems continuing because i took it personally but i can only teach you i can't go home with you and make you something or not something so success for me means developing a good relationship with someone that they can trust me and come to me for advice and education so i guess i'm very successful in teaching but i can't make them two things you know so for people who are having a hard time finding healthier foods because they think it would taste as good did they ever have struggles in changing or did they ever make progress and then shift back when they were having a hard day yes it takes like three to four and five weeks for you to develop new taste but they grow back so for instance if you just use eating mcdonald's and oreo cookies francis and soda i mean your taste buds want that they crave that and your brain wants that and craves that because a lot of communication going on so you become addicted to truly truly become addicted to it especially sugar so if you really abstain from those kinds of things from three to five weeks food normal food sites taste better for you because then you get brand new taste buds so there's a lot of success if you stay with the program that they do fall off but for the most part something does click at some point and they realize now this is what i want to do and it happens sometimes it doesn't happen all the times but everybody so when you were studying to become a dietician or perhaps in the early stages of being one did you ever think maybe this is what i want you or this meeting is too hard or were you always like this is what i was meant to do you know that's an interesting question i always liked women working with women and children so also all my years i've been in return child h i really enjoy helping young women and children as i felt like they were the easiest to help and to prevent diseases later on it was hard because like i said earlier i would take it personally if this person came back month after month that they didn't lose weight that they gain weight and they were like major obese for even if they had surgery to reduce systemic and lose weight and they weren't successful there so it was hard to feel like oh my gosh you know what am i doing i'm not really helping this person  days like that yes who has been your most rewarding moments are most rewarding moments are when i can help somebody do up question when i can make someone that may help them coke and neal when someone when i come back and i say so how did i go i gave you a bunch of recipes did you try something and they come in they bring me their samples or they take a picture of something is this is when i made so yes that's and then they'll come back and say now i can do ten depends on a lot of things so let's just say you were dancer i don't know what you do sports wise but if you're dancer and you dance and you work out hard because dancers you would think but they work really really hard and so you would need more carbohydrates let's say because you're burning a lot of but let's just say you're a life you want to build you want to be a body builder for whatever reason that's what you want to do maybe maybe you don't maybe don't so you would need a little bit more protein but let's just say you on the other hand have some food allergies so we have to take that into consideration or maybe at some some issues you know some people just have lactose intolerance and they should have milk or something so it's very individual which is what makes my job interesting there's no one set thing for anybody so you have to really develop that relationship find out what your needs are what your likes and dislikes are what works in your family maybe you don't have a lot of it maybe you don't have a lot of money maybe you have someone to cook for you you know that would be easy but maybe you don't maybe you just live with grandma you know and cat we should be thinking about always right exactly right you should be thinking about your weight you shouldn't especially girls and we're the hardest on ourselves as far as that's concerned but there are certain things that you need you need vitamins and minerals and you know to to answer your question more completely we all need x amount of vitamins and minerals we need x amount of cows and we need x amount of things so those everybody needs so individual activities and stuff like that but that's what we should be thinking we should be thinking about our hair and nails and but how to make it better from the inside not trying to have a great champ who are great polish or whatever like we should be eating better not thinking about weight but just thinking about what's best for my body and healthy food unfortunately it's a treat but as a treat should be every day because then it would be a treat so you have a birthday or you have some celebration so it's once a month i mean the something where i would just say well once a month i'll have to serve in that every day you don't really eat it every day just don't in my school i had m and m and it was like if we period for everyone and you go to the cafeteria and they have cake think cupcakes and all this like junk and now it's all apples and bananas right and everyone sugar high we are getting high on the sugar and it is affecting us it does affect us it changes our metabolically it really really does that is the problem so what i say is the limit for you girl should be like forty grams of sugar per day ok so if you start looking at labels and i'm talking about added sugar not what's in the mail or fruits because the sugar in those so the yogurt let's say or some of the chips or the jelly that you put on your peanut butter and jelly or the peanut butter or even the bread some breads have raisins and immense you know cinnamon and all this stuff in there but so forty five grams max one soda thing would give it to you so if that's how you want to spend a day go for it but there's one thing you have to know about sugar it prevents the absorption of calcium and the molecule looks very similar to vitamin c so it competes for metabolism with vitamin c the is really important so is calcium so if you have a high sugar content down it you can have low calcium low adamancy that's why we have those limits forty five max so if you want to spend it on soda smell of a certain taste and a little bit of taste on the rubber so that sosa convinced the brain for people who may have diabetes or just should drink water to think that they're drinking something other than water i don't know if you if you've heard of this and not just found out about it because it started yelling something i want to start to take out of the media i just thought it was interesting and i was if you knew about i was going to ask you what you thought of it i have to think that so we're fooling the brain into thinking we're eating something good but we're really not i mean some people who are used to like there's a coke flavor when we put fizzy water into it and some people complain that doesn't taste like coke but i think they're comparing like you know hormones will rise so it makes sense if you're thinking and smelling it that you're dopamine levels will rise and make you feel good that there's science behind that so it's interesting i have to look into that and what is it called what's a cup called i believe it's called the right love to bake but it's hard to break something that tastes good it's moist and the sugar affects the texture while also making it healthy so do you have any advice for welker have you tried using pum a pumpkin or apple sauce or banana head of the oil so one can appear a pumpkin right with no additives like no flavoring is just plain pureed in can't and you take out the oils that they suggest you put in i think it's usually like sort of a cup of a fourth one cup of something right and you don't you substitute that and it really makes it more ice plus it gives it a boost of vitamin a and fiber so try it it's really g  the food industry preys on the local nomics that is folks they do they know that the kitchen hooked fast food is addictive it's designed that way oreos and doritos and one of those orangey things cheetos that it tastes and those crumbly things stay on your tongue so there's a party going on in your tongue and those dopamine levels are rising and rising and once it's out a mouthful wait a minute we need more so they prey on you to get addicted organic food costs a lot because the government just regulates so many things you have to prove certain order to use and you have to prove that those animals are not just cage and you have to prove that you haven't fed them any certain things and all of that is tested and you have to pay for someone to come in and test that so every step of the way of you growing anything cost you money that's why you're getting food cost well but now there's a trend more for bigger farms and so maybe the costs will go down i've seen the costs go down so my advice to you is find out what the dirty dozen are the dirty dozen are those fruits and vegetables that are highly pesticides not all of them are so if you like broccoli apples carrots peaches find out if they're they're one of the twelve people twelve that she was fruits and vegetables that are highly contaminated if they're not then you but you know then you can have the other you know but if you can afford it just buy the best food you can afford but the food industry preys on the people don't have a lot of money that's why they have dolman use ok so i went to school which is kind of opposite what having your schools you guys had more junky and then it turned you healthier capitals and carrots and all that kind of stuff at my school we used to have like there's this one line with like kind of like the more junk food and then other side had what we call it hot lunches centers like that where you make you and say which is and they used to say it's like vegetables and it would rotate around different parts of the world and you are required to have a vegetable before you left you can have other stuff but your choir to have a vegetable or fruit or sometimes both depending on what could day it was it was already there's little exception but i used to buy lunch every single day and i noticed that the line on my side was getting shorter and shorter every single day and the lunch lunch and he told me you know you're like the last one coming and eventually they had to combine the lines and the line became much longer so i eventually started bringing lunch and when i came back again when i forgot my lunch it gone the vegetable line was gone and now all i see they're bringing in all like they're bringing in ice cream i don't know if you've heard of dippin dots or pretzel machine we have cookies and they make them so cheap they make it cheaper to just buy  cookies and ice cream and stuff and my friends are coming back with pizza and they thinking it tells me like oh my gosh you know this green this tomato which is a vegetable even if there is added sugar and cheese you know i've got everything that i need and  just shaking my head so i don't know how i can do anything about this but i guess do you have any advice for the schools like this well i don't know what form the vegetables take you know what i mean because sometimes i my suggestion to the schools is to go back to making soup there are other metals in there just and just make likes fruit salad and put a little whipped cream on there like make natural home  fresh with cream and like just make it nice to taste it doesn't have to be so stark i mean i don't know i haven't seen what they look like but i i would venture to guess that it's not the best presentation so if you put a little effort into a political onions and garlic and maybe you know sesame seeds and you know make them you know broccoli look good and you know make it smell good and you know like wow this or just do fruit kebabs like isn't it's all about presentation like you set smells seeing you know if you present it nicely suggestion would be is to get like a bunch of girls like you and say we're cooking today or grade seven is going to cook or one class a great set because you may have too many classes but you know you may just say oh and these kids are going to develop the menu and they're going to cook and then they're going to do a presentation like make a thing but just to slap something on the plate and say well here you go and you have to eat it see her agree with that you have to have free choice too but you have to make it appealing so my suggestion is to find out who's cooking and give them some good that don't have normal weight and remember that these feel good hormones rise every time you have something that tastes good we're driven to eat right as humans because if we didn't eat we wouldn't something by but eating is a pain because you got a cook you got  for those folks that rely on that hormone just to feel good because they feel bad imagine you know your home you go home to an empty house or you have a bad situation being bullied or whatever whatever then you know you're relying on these foods to feel good of times it's like war or what i crave like once i actually get healthy food i actually think it tastes pretty good but it's getting there i think is the hard part or i think there was a study done a while ago i  facebook that set that people at rec donald this is like a survey that they did that order of salad were also weren't likely to get like a giant burger because they felt better because they were getting a salad and they ended up ingesting war bad stuff more calories right so do you have anything to comment about that well actually mcdonald's is doing away with all that so they decided they were going after a population of people that were never going there anyway like i would never go there to get something i would say never that's a lot but i would i don't know they have a chili so they were trying to get me to go there or people like me and they spent a lot of money advertising to do that and they just realized you know what's not working let's just stick to our bad food because that's what we're good at and those little come will come and we're not going to compete so i mean they had old meal they had salads but that still didn't make healthy people go there just the people that like that kind of food are going to go there i would suggest again if you do it once a month maybe not maybe mcdonald's maybe a couple times a year things like that just limit that just limit because this is really still i can say about this just no vitamins no minerals just a lot of sodium and a lot of fat all right well we're kind of at a wrapping up tire so i just like to thank you so much for coming on