ventile he is the campaign manager for the team in training pavel sister talia ed one of the lead coaches for university settlement ozzie histon and we grew up in ithaca new york is very athletic as a kid he played soccer and he was he really loves soccer and lacrosse and he was telling me about some of the training they did for soccer which involved a lot of running as he got a little older he got into dance and musical theater he over the years worked for disney and a lot of kind of off broadway stuff mostly as a dancer he would go around and do a lot of kind of corporate team building kind of stuff which doesn't really let on how cool it was do these drumming about ok so it wasn't just a fixed place a place he wanted to exact so he would come to magnetic personality really a magnetic personality and that he really kind of brought out the best in people and i know it sounds like he could really get moved here in the eighty's and then he moved down to florida to work with this me and i moved here and one nine hundred ninety and he moved back i can't remember when but shortly there after the lower east side yes he was he was when he turned to huge radio because i think you dubbed him the mayor of grand street i did so tell us how did you be so i met paul i guess it's maybe about nine or ten years ago when my daughter and his younger daughter ell part apartment and so i got to know him through through the school and through our daughters and years later when i started the community track team i was on our team for a couple of years and i got to know him further through that but i would echo really everything tallia said about his be we would have the elementary school p s one time in the lower east side would have an annual fundraiser every year probably would put together a band of dads it was basically kind of loosely based on a drinking group that he had put together called the grandad's grand dad get it because we're all a bunch of cops in apartment buildings on grand street where a lot of us live so they would he would rally the troops and get these dads together some of who  never have actually been musicians or have ever performed on a stage before and he would put together a band and they would learn songs that would relate to the theme of the fundraiser you know we'd have one on one was on the eighty's and one was on the seventy's that was a really classic one that had the y m c a and everything people so it was just really really brought together the community for that big celebration that was a fundraiser for the school and it was hilarious it was just everybody was laughing they would be talking about it for weeks afterwards and really he was the stage manager he was like front and center and he was the one who got everyone to show up at the rehearsals and do all these things and i feel like that's something that's a special quality about him that he could just rally the troops and make you want to do something like be in a rock band that you may never have actually wanted to do group because i think all of us in our way that connected with him in different aspects of his life recognize that he had this special quality you know that's hard to put a name on but i think it relates to a t shirt that he had yes can you and talk about the t know what was going on and what his experiences were and after he finished his treatment he sent out a last email about it you know about how he'd he'd beat cancer and what his plans were now and musically related you know after going through the treatment and moving forward now now it was starting his life post cancer and that he would  it's i'm sure the same magnitude for everybody and it's kind of a humbling thing when when you need to have a of huge loss and they feel it's so devastating to your family and then it's it's humbling when you you realize how many people are dealing with a similar loss it's it's it's humbling and makes you feel i guess  i don't know if it makes for worse because i think for anybody losing their brother losing their husband losing their father son would be devastating right this very fresh this happened last august last august the university tell me what do you guys do part of the settlement the houses with the movement that happened in the eight hundred so where you had these pretty affluent individuals that came to the communities and realized that the and it was an immigrant community primarily in louis side at the time and they came and they just saw the level of poverty that existed at the time and it was just like we want to be able to give resources of light in a particular way to to allow people an opportunity so kind of see that there's something more something better so that's what it's all my houses started from come was this basic idea university settlement was one of the first ones in eighteen eighty six to come on the scene and hope for those services something to several locations university someone is huge at this point there are many different operates many different programs that are under the umbrella of universities not only and one of them is to be can program which i work with to kinda services so you know from from womb to tomb to cling on this idea of just like the family was the main purpose of support and if you can support the family then people can do great things right from that place but that's  in what is your role as to university so i started working with university center about eighteen years ago i was moved to the lower east side about twenty years ago and i was working within a community garden at the time with this other organisation called open road and we were providing services youth services that the time so we were running little after the after school type of programming at that time and then university settlement moved into the east side which is the  school that they currently are right now and they started to kind of reach out to us you know provide some kind of support and services so base pretty much a group from that from that relationship and i've been i've been coaching and teaching and doing various different things from that are you yourself a runner yes i was a sprinter i was not much of a distance runner i'm kind of moving into it in my later stages of just like kind of embracing it so the five k s is a doable event for me  and hurdle has always been kind of prohibitive because of the hurdles themselves and just so being able to kind of buy you know more equipment that would help us to kind of expand the program a bit offer them way more opportunities but just have more things  i'm really excited about it because paul and i were both getting into running and i started running maybe a year or two ago and he was getting into running with his recovery and we would talk about it a lot and  fitness a lot and our plans and goals and and our progress ok and he had been running a lot in the east river card and getting ready to do he was going to do a spartan  sprint race with his friends and he was also just kind of coming back into himself and physically and his his plans for exercise  he was planning to make exercise and running a part of his kind of fitness and he was hoping to do a five k maybe a few times a year just to give his himself i goals to w and train towards and keep his his like athletically you know active and and because of that if doing a five k is is really apt and especially something that we like patients and so my fund raising campaign that i direct in new york city is we have runner runners and walkers and we have triathlete and we have cyclists we actually have hikers now as well we have a hike in the room we provide training and support and additionally fundraising support while they try to make fundraising calls while they train for an event so i have some experience in that sort of thing and i fell into it by doing it myself as a participant for another cancer charity and a lot of most of my fund raising has been around cancer  and with a lot of cancer in my family and friends circle we're talking about a little earlier and i also co founded and coached a youth running club in the lower east side called five points runners and a few years back we had sponsored a similar five k actually that i'm pretty sure i'll take public transit but i'm pretty sure he was around around the time and they have maybe ellen might have run it and they may have been helped to fundraise for it and so we did a similar type run where with a five k on the lower east side it was a pretty small race we had some of our families that were involved in the program doing some fund raising to benefit the club which is a nonprofit which call to fight twenty five points runners yes one point that sounds familiar that came out of some of those neighbors were and close friends were really looking for a way to celebrate his life and to commemorate you know that kind of thing and i think because of everything what how he was thing about how opened a new ferry route a couple of weeks ago right along the lower east side and it stretches from wall street stops right at corners of park and five i think coast and east the street the east river traffic is right sort of between those two stops and then it goes up to thirty fourth street and across to long island city idea that you know we're coming together to celebrate life and you know he's he was a testament of that and i think that that you've given us the opportunity to share that is amazing and thank you my so excited about this run and just proud to be part of it and it's really a great way to remember my brother and celebrate his life i think he i mean i wish i