hello welcome to the rb show up close and personal i'm your host venus and i'm here always to help you make it through this musical dance we call life and to do that you know i talked to notable could people in the community so they can give us tips to help us make it through today my guess is a singer's singer and what i mean by that is when he hits the notes they go all through your body and make them shiver he's a musical director he is one of the featured soloist on the gospel group still award winning gospel group car  the car singers he is a wonderful gentle spirited man of god and i'm so delighted that he's here to hang out with us today don't be still troy thank you so much for being here welcome because the base attribute is necessary and it's good it's a good foundation but i'm grateful yeah i'm glad you said that because a lot of people view it they think that they can just wake up that way and i don't need any training and even if you do even if god does give  mother stories always tell the joke about pastor since you know bishop can play always can play and he's just been gifted and passed a can and so he would always go over the piano and pray that something would come out and of course you think it is so you all can do that you know you you know wasn't anything special so we all just me and the rest of my siblings just saying and eventually i started to get comments and different things that people would say from high school and other churches where you can really see them like wow really ok i don't know who i was about seventeen or eighteen before i really was a really i had something maybe a little different were you singing at school or and i'm just first baptist right now as you know i'm from just started there in december i'm excited about what's going on there's it's a great ministry and the friends would tell you that is considered the highest male voice so my goodness i want to be a soprano i'm not going to off camera i'll tell you what i do when i'm in the tennis section ok i don't voices and bring them all together for this wonderful moloney piece of music a lot of piece of music that we we produce well do you get frustrated there are times when i go sometimes you know if you're prepared and you should always be as a leader and live any type of director for anything but especially with concerning music i mean you need to be prepared or sometimes you just don't get what you're looking for what you're asking for  right and i'm working with adults so i've been through all the power things the leadership mistakes that you make there you know at a very young age so birds are more became where you know the dog was even to go out you know so again i haven't always been like yeah and i think it's really hard for a younger person to try to manage and teach adults something absolutely because they tend to forget that ok these people are older than you actually a little bit more seasoned so you have to kind of think out of your box and go beyond yourself to know that you know there's a certain way you speak to them so you can get what you want from that but they got with me and they let me ok let me tell you i even have to do that sometimes with the seniors and actually we were sitting one of his songs you know that nine months and it was it was just maybe a year before he passed so that was a highlight you know but the entire hawkins family  you know i want to know that you're listening to me if it wasn't for you listening where would i be so always approach me but when i meet people i'm like starstruck sometimes i'm like because especially they were my idols are you know just like when i first started working at the radio everybody there w my idols so i was like this is cool i don't and now colly you know it's that interesting position so when you meet people like that that you've looked up to how do you feel how do you handle it i feel the same exact way i'm completely starstruck the first time or i think one of the first people i met working with professionals used to work for donnie mcclurkin for a few years before i started with her car but singing with them and working with them has afforded me the opportunity to meet a lot of greats and one of them i think one of the first ones i've met was under a crowd who definitely followed and studied to the tee and i was just little nuts mr what their door please and what i know anyway so tell me let's let's stop stay where we are with the second for a minute before we move into her car ok so you've done some stuff know right come in here right pants paul just then you know that if you're not right then you know coming back again absolutely you know sit in it so it's really important and i say that specifically for the young folks you know it's really important you know they have a different culture than we do but when it gets to where the money is where you want all those really good contacts it's about that impression a lot of time to goes beyond what you're able to do with your ability your given your talent because you can have everything the entire package right  to get along with or easy to work with and people who will second guess you know look at you before they book the guy who is over here who does all the same things but he's easier to work with right that's true that's true i actually had somebody tell me that about me you know perf crossed with curb very circumstantial he had been looking for a male sigur the former sigar corey had been gone for about a year and he was looking for cigarette leave his it's not a problem for him to farms it because obviously again he knows a lot of people he was looking for the right fit at least that's what he told me and after about a year he  was having a conversation with for a bit of his who happened to know me and the friend recommended and suggested my name curtis happened to be in new jersey some two weeks later at my church ok is any of that kind of stuff truly again it depends on the individual and it depends on the individual or the group of people that you're traveling with whoever whoever else is on the ticket who you know there's a lot of truth there so if there's some people on the ticket that are not a part of her car the don't have a choice to put together too much about you know even if you don't like i mean this is my family but no we love each other very much so how many of the people of the original or actually the absolute o off camera telling you that some of the songs i listened to off the last night ok and i picked you out fountain of groups ok in my opinion i think this is one of the best works that i've done with kurt really has gotten a lot of airplay but it's a tremendous truck see now that's why i need to bring some kind of background music into the show because what i like to do is get airplay to really good songs that are not get any attention it really bothers me and so that's why i had on the beach to radio shows a lot i can do that because it's some awesome song absolutely now when i did the radio have some stuff can we collaborate absolutely good because i got some stuff i got you know i haven't written a gospel song yet ok this is a lot of love an r and b and jazz and stuff so you know i got those things so but i'm looking for somebody to collaborate with s from t v years ago twenty years ago thirty years ago that was laid for what's happening right now but i think it's still good it's all still good every german today to include girls for music has evolved into something that's just going to work for words with today's listeners are looking for today this is this really important so i kind of have a problem with some of the gospel music that you know i don't go to clubs a lot but when i would go to the club i would hear a song even sometimes when we have programs at church they'll play a song and you know people will start moving you know the secular movements and when i guess i go wait a minute i can't do that i walk in so a cookout unable to play or something by somebody i knew at the time and i had interviewed them yet and i start to women that's a gospel song keep still so you know i kind of i can't get into that ok so how do you feel about that well i mean i think there are things i don't i don't find anything wrong with i when you go to the chair i mean if you go to a club and you hear that music it's like i can move this way that it's like you know let me just rock back of all i'm glad my head you know maybe i'll do a little bit but you know you've got to remember too sometimes  people that listen to church music sports are people that's their life yeah so i mean you can't take that away from them whatever it is that they need to do to express themselves with the music sometimes of the dilemma happened yeah i mean i do believe that you know i also he's originally from  so what would you say to people who want to do what you do well let's start with the music and quickly let's start because i want to both of it let's start with music director first and then sing it with a think the first thing that you need to do is to be qualified to do that and in order to do that you've got to really know what you're doing so how do you do that you gotta you've got to know that you've got to put your time and ok and i'm sorry training is very important whether it's formal or whether it's in the church as you're going along the whole point is to be qualified to do that everybody just can't pick up and decide oh well as a goal of course i'm going to be