initial start for us an artist that made you feel like you wanted to be an artist was this the slow process was of did it come early did it i guess early more like as it invented itself the no in the life of everything i barely know there was a separation i just i was always different you know in a way where i had a learning disability and i couldn't thrive that well in school and i realized a lot of my reasoning for that was my understanding on the rabbit  pretty much a lot of people you know everybody around me you know was life was moving on and i just felt like i just kept like a beehive simply because my learning could really read books that well i couldn't understand a lot of things and  came down to it being where i was more of a visual artist everything that i understood i soul and you know storyboards i saw pictures and as i started to wonder think step things and a lot of times when i read a book i would just try to draw a scene and i'm really slow but reading a book because the take that you know if i throw them but that was just my way of understanding it so i think that's how i just sort of tried to survive this world is droll and use that as a basis for everything when did you become interested in art  was a medium that really spoke to me it was different than painting still life anything as far as art went in the world it just didn't really speak out to be as much as storyboarding in comics that i never really got to touch any of the superheroes or any of their stories  of the characters substories universes none of that fascinated me was the way of telling a story through the visual means through panel panel juxtaposition and the time piecing spent the sides of the panel next to lot of artists and stuff i didn't really like that whole world as i soon found out there was a lot of arrogance to a lot of competition and that's not what i was about i wasn't about working for people and working on other superheroes doing their stories i just wanted to tell a editor or writer or orders whoever you're talking to and you know luck has a lot to do with it and you know after going in there and trying to talk to all these guys i do realize that much for conversation i can't talk to and so as a five i never met any of these guys this was all done virtually just over the internet so you know i did my thing on the regular bosom team piece of paper and stand in the downsize them who were all at staples being just retail what inspires you as an artist i mean if you know is there something is it something specific that inspires you orders of like an artist to learn or do you were sort of more in your own in your own mind as it were  i guess just the realities of everything in life i ve work at my job and something comes to me in the blue and it's hard to see what it's because there's tons out there you know i mean i mean inspired by the move on i notice that you draw on a pretty wide variety of art styles is this something that came naturally to you or is that something that you learned a little bit of both  i really looked towards a lot of eastern comics manga and i loved a lot of their styles because the really got are interested in something you study it and you're really involved in it it starts embedding itself into you so when you start drawing and you're not thinking of any style you just want to draw something in order to draw that you have to have some kind of motivation or a point where you start an emotion and for me it's emotion you know it's what i feel needs to be on a piece of paper and so they motion reaches apart your brain i guess that connects to your hand and when you start drawing the style just appears immediately like as if reading the script and getting into it make character and the world around him and how we have to survive everything was blown to pieces and he was in this real frigid state of mind he lost his family he lost his world he has two goals in the future he has and you know why he's a way and that's the emotion that is displayed to this character it carly and he  i guess when you're drawing that you sort of almost channel away that type of emotion so all the lines everything i was doing all the substructure it would come out real grief and that was just natural  you know so so you take your art style and your or your cue for the art style for a particular picture that you draw or say in this case a comic for the comic and then you sort of or you read that emotion or of where you're drawing something you know you feel like this there is a you know you feel particular way about how what's happening in this image and this sort of informs your art style yet anyway what really i guess you can say happens most of the time in general is that you get the scripts you read the scene you develop sort of a half emotion about it you just read it you haven't seen any of it visually at least that's what happens in me so then there comes the draft and draft is most important just a rough draft because that's where you're not working on any kind of structure born with the combination of the script and the draft and through that you pull that emotion out and then you start your file and that's like the refined product taking a crystal ball from the earth chipping away at the little based on you know something your feeling of that particular moment or you know do you maybe think about something ahead of time before you make the drive or do you just absent mindedly start you know drawing something you know most of the time it's not  actually i do have sort of a premeditation to it a lot of times it happens when i'm driving when i'm at work when i'm doing things where i don't have a piece of paper in front of me but i'm also in a state where i'm just kind of spac out what they call and that's where you just start scene something out of nowhere it just doesn't always have to be out of nowhere you can hear a song and when you hear that song you think of the paper and your hand just starts to automatically recall those images and i think that's the basis of were you know i would start with a lot of characters delving in a  little bit into yourself as a person because he's a sorry if this is maybe a little personal but has any of some of these emotional traumas that you know you've been dealt over the past you know five or so years you know how has that sort of informed your work if at all yeah totally i think it's that's that's a really good question i mean if there's a really important role that person all experience that definitely shows through your your hand and your work you get a lot more broad range of things you can do on paper with more emotions i mean you know it's like a double edged sword you know it's it's hard to do a lot of things in life on certain days when you're too emotional you know you can troll but if you take those emotions and you put it on paper at the right time you can really seriously crease magic  i say what happens there is when the people you're working with try to force not necessarily force but they really want you to work on something and you feel pressured by the art and by yourself and you're like oh i have to work on this to overcome this challenge or prove myself like for example i was working on the scene that was a hospital scene and i had previously did a few short stories for this anthology and i successfully no problem and it was for a torrent ology and then they want to do this third fall story it was a hospital scene and i knew very off the bat i didn't want to do it because i had a lot of recent things happening you know with some loved ones being in the hospital and hit me  a very duty that's their only you're a very emotional artist like you a lot of what you do as an artist and you know the artwork that you produce sometimes it's not helpful at all and you know is there something that you do that you know maybe helps you sort of expect it again it's try and yeah exactly so how do you you know where do you need to go well what i order it's to sort of bring yourself back into being able to draw i try to reconnect with what i'm already familiar with if i rip up a project that i don't feel comfortable with that i try to move immediately you know next time i draw to something i'm familiar and good at even if i don't need to do it it's just to get back into the game get my hand moving again after the hospital scene a source of a survival from drawing that when i went back into it i started board and then from there you're looking at it and it just starts come alive and you just your hand moves and get all these suede movements and that's sort of like the positive emotion coming back out surfacing again and then from that point in the middle of painting i'll  at all you know but you do it and you were not i honestly with that much emotional life and the time that i have i just want to spend as much time as i have on this earth doing what i want to do i guess what makes me happy is knowing that one day my comic that i have inside of me i've been working on since i was fifteen it's called you know and it makes me happy knowing that one day i'm going to complete that it's going to come alive because you know as i was writing it i went through life and all these characters are sort of opening became parts of me in my emotions of a different person each day nail into each different character and then once i complete like an issue of this comic which i've done i reread it and look at it like wow you know it's this is the essence of life this is what makes me happy is just forgetting everything else on the outside will problems everything just completely taken a leaf from my head in the moment and just being one hundred percent in the story like it was the only reality at the moment and seeing this new characters come alive they sort of create their own personalities you know i just sort of create them and give a little push and now they just go off and amaze me and i'm like wow you know you guys are talking to me like it's you know you have your own mind and stuff so there's a lot of mysteries out there with your own mind and your subconscious you create things and then when she comes back to you it starts talking back to you in a way you start really learning that you know there's a lot of invisible mysterious stuff inside the brain and  do you have anything that you you need that you might want to say to me be another artist you know maybe someone who's kind of starting out really you know kind of just your general sort of outlook on you know maybe what they where they should maybe start pushing themselves well like artistically or on you own the our world as much  social media and everything out there is trying to push it to exposure self exposure self if you work out there move along make money come a career that's not where it is at all that's all external stuff or is internal it's your own personal journey inside of you so if you're in arjun you're trying to break into the art world and you don't have any kind of personal journey inside if you don't have area that you can recluse to the universe that you can call your own and get wrapped up in that what you're creating are just images that have no meaning images you're making for other people stuff they want you to do stuff the you know who outside world is pushing you to do and that's a different type of artist  saying it's bad you know things really good or bad it's just what it is you know it's that if there's an emptiness to something there's no meaning to it a lot of people look right through it and just see an image they just see a style with nothing underneath you know it has to have me do you have any sort of final thoughts on where you've come from where you are and me be where you're going as an artist yeah well i mean this is a piano and then drop the drums and i got back to the piano started making my own soundtrack to my story actually because i want to make a video game one day and a series and the complete series is the story of this i really feel passion about it and so what my means is that you know we've out west you might be a job at night my art and my music but i want to use my music to get into the video game industry and create music for video games start mingling with companies start meeting people producers start just networking through the underground you know alleyways of the industry not the cons and not external social things through and through that use that