amateur my gosh it's all the life or let's say i think a wife has a lot of things to think about especially if you're alive to be able to do that we are here today to hear the art and have the gre we get your name up there but dave is in a sense he's kind of a guiding inspiration for us here in the northwest in legal inspiration that is laws he's one of the people that takes the time to really study it to really teach it to really see where what it is he knows actually works not some kind of thing where you can you see this organizational operation called the bar which currently they can actually brief use you legal by the way that's interesting can i i have been denied legal have special it's still a very large estate that i had created after i founded seven has to companies eighteen years ago case five one six five one seven dealing with the legal definition of motor vehicle and i put the tooth in under chapter fifty nine subtitle six on the title forty nine federal as well and  the city with seattle the the prosecuting attorney filed with the seattle miscible court a motion for dismissal for problems which is exactly what i learned from you and i've studied the work for a long time i think that  d shows going to be mostly focusing on federal taxation and i've studied your section eighty three under there that they cannot touch and a lot of a done a lot a lot of studies on your work mr mullen i'm very excited that you're here and i'm very excited to be a co host here with you as well thank you yeah you're welcome thank you thank you will that preceded a lot of your time i respect for you david it was considered highly highly else when it does come on just because we can't i have sat through a lot of lectures you've taught you've educated you've inspired you know you've got w e v g o v dot that's a website and based on tax analysts and also some things like that up pulling people out of the i or else right more or less the trap that they set up for people they get they're basically annoying and they do get they to add to that that that same philosophy that you speak that also as applied to our rights you know that yeah for real the iraqis as far as i can see is a giant satanist coven types who organized crime tied to the vatican tied all the bad guys in one player i figure they're there pirates from some part of the galaxy they come little plants like this to harvest souls that's sort of the practical i can explain how they get so much power take over everything steal everything and get away with hardworking people becoming basically either killed or in slave vile makes no sense that we do all the work and we build all the countries and they steal all and yet we don't even teach that in school that's the number one teach that's good is art i mean yeah you carry the ball i don't really know anything other than i think the whole country has become victims we've all become victims of all of a time in history and it seems like that's all we have is the historical track record of being targeted by people who did nothing but just target us and got away with it you know hey well yeah you know i would like to add to that also my studies in technical game analysis psychology and what it talks about is that the work that mr moon has done that we have all learned so much from is that it is the truth itself and just because he than just because you've done this it changes everything the truth what these guys you know that are taking advantage of the country and just wait in the country what they're what they're doing is you know people are waking up  and again i say i'm just delighted to be here and and your truths sign and it changes everything we can only help you in the things that i've learned from you in the past one of the things that i couldn't believe it when i first heard this week to me first shock it was proven p twelve years to be a lecture you did with the most serious look at your face and i thought that's kind of like the you know the seal of you know this is real this is we're dealing with this i have no idea how these people have considered themselves evolved you know since this guy the two million year old bones that were found in africa these people don't seem to evolved of all period and yet they have all the power that we have to work overtime just to fight for and how to protect ourselves from them you know i mean that's it's they don't seem that's because they don't want to deal with the fact that they're wimps no it's a matter that honest people work hard they don't think that way they do things productively build countries can't talk about there right now books that you've written the website which i got in the background which i'm going to scroll road as we get some ideas don't tax analysis i've said things that i don't i mean only the website ok and i got it here and i've got the tax age which is right here in the back and that you mentioned something about that would be like the key one that you warrants years ago that i paid not knowing anything and when i could find i could not find anybody to help me they paid off over forty accounting companies follow me around after they stole millions of dollars from me used my money to pay off organized crime agency tied to bank of nazi america and you know you find out all the judges are on the boards of these banks and then when you go to file a case you're simply finally a case that's resided by a judge that's a president the bank that stole your money that makes sense but that's what happened to judge who now are i mean i can't i i mean all i can think of is i am one of the founders of move your phone network many many years ago and all i can think of is there is life out there i know it's intelligently more guided than we are and watching us and i'm thinking you know maybe there is something to judgment that in the meantime people like you who are the people that we listen to give us a chance to be  the beginning of your intro you said that i have inspired he said he even speired us there are five of us so in washington state here  it's precious few people that have one single concern about the law in government until the government sets about imposing smart meters on everybody and then you get a wave of excitement through seattle and some activism and protest in with the the gun registration bill of the last election cycle there was some protest in front of the capitol other net really it's a ghost town in washington as it relates to activism in the there's a lot of people you could listen to and i work for the victims of the people that are out there that there's a crew out there that are responsible tax payer advocates and i say responsible only in the sense that they play the game the way the i r s requires and while i am a taxpayer advocate i do not operate in the same realm of understanding those folks will do exactly what i rest publications say to do and help you get back in the system on the other hand i have analyzed tax law in my analysis was complete in one nine hundred ninety four when i wrote my treatise called code breaker  and i looked at the tax code with the question of do americans owe a tax the second question do americans owe a tax when all they've done is sell their labor for compensation as a sole proprietor a self employed individual or an employee just those two questions require that you analyze the chapters that impose income taxes and that sets me apart from everything you would call the anti tax movement or the patriot movement which is basically a pack of morons that cause a lot of people to needlessly go to prison and while they have web sites curriculums and a client base maybe a fan club be better way to describe it i can so easily shoot them down it's disgusting i meet the people that go to those of after those folks of wasted all their money on meaningless materials and send quote unquote seminars and then they contact me because they're in trouble so i don't have anything really good to say about the anti tax movement and they're really only a couple people out there with their head on their shoulders regarding the tax code analysis and it's one thing to sit here and say i could shoot them down that easily here's your proof anybody that says income taxes collected through voluntary compliance or an income tax return this way file this and you'll get all your taxes back there using the word taxes and yet they are unaware of the existence of the statute that explains how all compensation for services is taxed according to the i r s chief counsel several circuit courts and tax court everybody agrees tax code section eighty three explains h paycheck and none of these people have any clue as to its existence its language its operation its relevance nobody and that includes your accountant it includes all the people that  block so harkening back to my my affirmation that i operate in a different realm there are plenty of people out there that will try to get you back in the system to get you out of ira's trouble whereas i've proven the i r s and the tax code are two entirely different things on we dot com on the federal income taxation page you'll see the  not the skeleton but the meat of the argument that americans have never been subject to the tax code as proven through the analysis of only several key statutes so i've narrowed it down to several key statutes when argued the way i argue august second two thousand and five the the department of justice faced this briefing in a civil suit a man called me in spring of zero five and says i fear i might be indicted for failure to file i just heard your name i never heard of you before somebody said you do good work any ideas and i said how would you like in it  proof that you sued the united states for proof the tax code applies to americans and they can't even debate you on three or four statutes so let's go for it so i brief the argument you see on the federal income taxation page there and submitted it as a brief behind the complaint saying all we want all he wants out of this lawsuit is answers to these questions if these conclusions are invalid and instead of put disproving the conclusions as invalid conclusions as faulty reasoning or analysis u s attorney steven bass asked for a protective order against the question and the judge issued a protective order prohibiting the plaintiffs from asking the government about those statutes and to this day they can go on record with their own interpretation of those statutes with the presumption i'm correct and armed with that protective order as exhibit number one i wrote a thirty three page racketeering extortion complaint fifty eight page memorandum included several exhibit a twelve page  notarized cover letter and served eighty members of congress with one hundred eighty pages cost me almost six thousand dollars that was january first of all six and i've never received so much as a punctuation mark reply from congress and since then that complaint in that briefing has been used by more than a dozen people to prevent their own indictment we've seen my office since two thousand six has caused the department of justice to shut down grand jury proceedings and the i r s has criminal investigations division to close investigations so that you know i hear from these people on my conference calls maybe year and a half after they file an affidavit with congress concurring agreeing with my criminal complaint saying on a similarly situated witness to crime and i hereby name these u s attorneys as similarly situated criminals and a year and a half later they'll pop up on one of my conference calls and say so and so i joined your complaint a year and a half ago and i'll ask them have you heard anything since they say no no nobody's called me the grand jury hasn't they haven't subpoenaed any more of my relatives to testify against me and no indictment and that's more than a dozen people who have benefited from this complaint based on only several key statutes and the tax code is more than twenty pounds of rice paper with its regulations over eight million words and when you you have to study a great deal of it to arrive at a couple of baseline conclusions there are plenty of things you can study that don't lead to a controversy and i only teach the things that prove there's a discrepancy between the i r s and what it says is its authority and the actual letter of the law and that's what i specialize in is after having analyzed mountains of information statutes case law i've come to several key conclusions regarding these several statutes that impose the biggest damage to the i r s is argument that it has all the authority it claims to have and you see this on we've ego dot com on the federal income taxation page and as you look at the tax code when you filed your tax return when you have paid all that the i r s says you owe they are not acting against you but there is a process in place whereby what they say are income taxes are imposed and it narrows the entire tax code down to four chapters five chapters if you include the chapter on the w four form but that doesn't impose a tax it only imposes the w four form withholding method so we're going to forget about chapter twenty four because it doesn't even impose a tax the question is do americans owe a tax as those taxes are imposed by the tax code and looking first at those four chapters i've chosen to key upon the definition of citizen in those four chapters those chapters are chapters one to twenty one and twenty four excuse me chapters one two twenty one and twenty three chapter twenty four is the w four form chapter twenty three is the federal unemployment tax act in excise tax paid by employers but it happens to come right out of your paycheck chapter twenty three section three three zero six j for the purposes of this chapter an individual who is a citizen of the commonwealth of puerto rico or the virgin islands but not otherwise a citizen of the united states well that's the citizen that's the citizen they say i am that i'm a citizen of the united states and that definition just expressively excluded me and i understand there's a million things to research and it's all in one place  in one pile and the government doesn't have to speak about it and so just to narrow your argument down to this precise equation i'm outlining was for four and a half years  of solid research of nothing but tax code and regulations so i'm going to say that regulation of that statute scares me three three zero six j expressly excludes me and so i don't owe the federal unemployment tax act sums imposed by chapter twenty three i moved into chapter twenty one fica employees the federal insurance contributions act section three one two one has the same definition of citizen the federal unemployment tax act and the old age survivors disability insurance social security retirement were part of the one nine hundred thirty five social security act it wasn't until nine hundred sixty five that medicare was added to the act and since i have the same definition of citizen in chapter twenty one fica for the employee i claim that's not my citizenship it expressively excludes me because in parentheses it says but not otherwise a citizen of the united states i don't make the argument that i'm not a citizen of the united states that's what the government says i am fine that's fine with me because when i am that citizen i've got tons of protections against what they do to everybody every day chapter two social security self employed section fourteen zero two b will tell you who is not a nonresident alien for the purposes of the chapter somebody who's not a nonresident alien is obviously a resident citizen for the purposes of this chapter this person is a resident citizen a person who is not a citizen of the united states but who is a citizen or resident of the commonwealth puerto rico guam american samoa or the virgin islands that's not me and what i've just done is make it formulated an argument based on statute against three chapters that they use again in daily life out of the four chapters that come into play just excluded three of them i've narrowed the tax code down to chapter one only and you go to the statutory definition of citizen in chapter one if you can find it you go to the index you go to the table of contents you search through section one through thirteen ninety nine and you will not find in chapter one a definition of the term citizen as you do in the other chapters which is a inadequacy in statutory construction under section one of the tax code that imposes the taxes for a married individual finally jointly severally head of household surviving spouse single individual trusts and capital gains you find no mention of the term citizen they say an individual or for all i know that could be the individual in chapter twenty one they need to be more specific but there is no definition of citizen and under section one of the tax code they wrote a regulation says who as this tax citizens of the united states wherever they live yes wherever they reside who is a citizen of the united states that any person born or naturalized in the united states and subject to its jurisdiction section one doesn't say anything of that the regulation does all the work to implicate me as a citizen of the united states as a person whom i owe the chapter one task in violation of the sixteenth amendment that says congress can land collect the tax it has to be a statute this is the first argument it's a violation of the sixteenth amendment is a tax imposed on americans strictly through the  promulgated of regulations under section one you can't impose a tax through regulation when you read the federal income taxation page of weaving gov dot com it starts at the top of the page with three three zero six j i'm not chapter twenty three chapter twenty one section three one two one i'm not fica chapter two fourteen zero two be definition a citizen that's not me i'm not the self employed social security citizen i'm left only with chapter one and section one is there is in its entirety on that page and you never see a mention of section or of the united states citizen in the statute and so at this point you stop and if you agree with me here's the conclusion i would assert is that to this point we still don't have a tax code that applies to american and then they said write a regulation and that's when they wrote one point one dash one to complete the imposition of the chapter one tax on americans and then they steal social security from you by saying you're that citizen so there's the first primary argument to answer the question do citizens of the united states oh a tax on the tax code not those first three taxes and they only zero chapter one because the regulation was written and that's unconstitutional because  sixteenth amendment says congress can lay collect this tax it has to be a statute this is an argument they needed a protective order against in two thousand and five checkmate the second argument on that same federal income taxation page is the answer to the question when all i've done is sell my conference my services for compensation is there an income tax imposed on that and when you look at t code section eighty three you'll see there that there's case law right there from tax court several circuit court from one thousand nine hundred seventy nine through two thousand and eleven section eighty three applies to all compensation it explains h tax it it governs the taxation of property transferred in connection with the performance of services and it provides for the determination of what is to be included in gross income so i don't have a choice you don't have a choice the i r s doesn't have a choice the d o j the judge nobody has a choice and yet the government will not go on record with its own interpretation of section eighty three section eighty three says if in connection with the performance of services property is transferred the excess of the value of that property over the amount paid shall be included in gross income you have to determine what the amount paid is before you know what the excess i and there's a lot of morons out there of say income isn't defined in the code because some judge said that a long time ago section eighty three is the definition of income income as profit cost defines profit and section eighty three defines cost and it says only the excess over the amount paid is gross income i've been up against the government with this time and time and time again in court they can't even put their own interpretation of section eighty three on the record that's the answer to the second question here's the third question if i owed social security it's an income tax if section eighty three applies to all compensation it applies to wages in chapter twenty one in fica it applies to chapter two self employment earnings social security income tax so even if i were subject to social security section eighty three has to operate before you can say i owe those taxes so they're stealing social security two ways i'm not that citizen and it's an income tax you deprive me of section eighty three to impose social security on my wages as well so here's in just to argument i've got a blanket of conclusions that prove we've never owed a dime to the i r s under any of those four chapters period and in large in large part i would say the umbrella that i speak under when i outlined these is the umbrella you don't understand your relationship with your government american you don't understand you still use the word income tax i filed a racketeering and extortion complaint with eighty members of congress that has since two thousand six prevented a dozen indictments and shut down grand jury proceedings does that mean i'm wrong if i were wrong they could go on record with their own interpretation of the law they can we've never owed a penny and so in why did view you see that your relationship with your government is the same relationship you have with the person that steals your identity and drains your bank account your relationship with your federal government is the same as the person that your relationship with a person that breaks through your front door with a battering ram under a falsely obtained search warrant your relationship with your government is the same as the relationship you have with the person that carjacked your car gunpoint and forces your family out of your car that's your relationship with government because as you'll see on the state income taxation page  many different states income tax statutes that say what you owe the state is in relation to what you owe the fed or adjusted gross income for the state is what the federal internal revenue code says is your your adjusted gross income your tax liability so it's all built on what is your federal liabilities that's how much you owe the state so state income taxes fall under the  attack under section eighty three that are used federally and when you understand that the state is stealing from you as well as the fed in the states that imposing come taxes for instance new york section six ten six eleven six twelve and you'll see other statutes there massachusetts indiana south carolina a whole bunch of different states california code section one seven zero eight one adopts by reference subchapter of the internal revenue code that includes section eighty three eighty three is state law in california and you won't find a single accountant that knows how to comply with california code section one seven zero eight one so the states are stealing too and all of it is built on just the several statutes you see on the federal income taxation page that we've each got dot com your relationship with your government is one of chattel they own us and in nineteen thirteen a bunch of bankers got together purchased a bunch of congressman and said let's steal from three hundred twenty million gun o and they did it they've got the federal reserve act the sixteenth amendment for income taxes and the seventeenth amendment that says senators will no longer be elected or appointed by state legislatures they're going to be elected by the citizens who are the citizens a bunch of farmers and drill press operators this is one hundred thirteen and look how well it's turned out for the bankers they've got a tax code that weighs over twenty pounds chronologically it goes like this  thirteen federal reserve act sixteenth amendment seventeenth amendment one nine hundred thirty five the social security act f d r the second most accomplished beef in history one hundred thirty nine the first tax code section thirty eight eleven was is the statutory foundation for social security then in one thousand nine hundred fifty four they rewrote the tax code and split section thirty eight eleven into chapters two and twenty one according to tax code section seven six five one parentheses for parentheses a which you'll see on weaving dot com and you'll see a photograph of section thirty eight eleven right there out of the thirty nine code then in one thousand nine hundred sixty five they added medicare as an additional tax under the social security act of one thousand thirty five section two eleven of that act had the same definition of citizen as you see in fourteen zero to be self employment social security in the tax code title forty two where they dispense social security benefits section four eleven b two the same definition of format twenty five hundred pages control a turns the whole thing blue control see copies everything that's in blue and then i went into a microsoft word document control be pasted it all into a microsoft word document control age what do you want to search for what do you want to replace i want to search for the word security what do you want to replace it with i want to replace it with the word security but an eighteen pick bold and a talent and i want to do the same thing with the word growth the same thing with the word revenue and the same thing with the word treasury so that everywhere it says gross income internal revenue code social security or secretary of the treasury in the health care bill it stands out like a sore thumb in big black bold in a taluk eighteen pick letters and then i went back through the social through the health care bill and found that half of it is an amendment to the social security act which does not apply to americans and one sixth of it is an amendment to chapter one of the internal revenue code which doesn't apply to americans except through that regulation which is unlawful they can't do that with a regulation and what that exposes is that the social security act which originally was unmanageable very complex it stands as a place where they can simply dream up a scheme of taxation and plug it into the social security act to operate as an additional excise upon our society to steal another percentage of our g d p you've got to get health insurance now who i get that from health insurance companies who owns that the bankers that own the government and so it's another way for them to get a whole bunch of money right out of our pocket then you have jonathan gruber who from mit a quote unquote professor who's never heard of section eighty three of the tax code probably because he's a moron and not really a professor thought up the idea of we have these cattle act plants that some blue ribbon employers gave their employees as part of their their employment where you get a deluxe health care plan and the government wasn't taxing those and he said why don't we tax those at the point of sale from the health insurance provider to the employer tax the provider so they can afford to offer many more and the cost of course was handed down to the employers that were purchasing the plan and they said told their employees we can't afford to give you benefits anymore we're taking away your benefits but we'll pay you a higher wage  salary that benefits the government this way they now these employees were paid more in their salary and the government taxes salaries and the government makes an extra two hundred forty billion with a b billion dollars more per year two hundred forty billion dollars more by taxing the health insurance plan at the provider level to where the employer can't afford to buy the plans and instead pays a higher salary that the government can come in and quote unquote tax when in fact the american citizen the u s citizen does not owe any of these taxes to begin with what you have is not the progressive income tax you have the progressive racketeering scheme from the onset the bankers put this in place because they feel they should steal from three hundred twenty million gun owners what do you get when you steal from a gun owner and i'm waiting for the american to wake up to some very simple argument i've just covered two arguments that do the heaviest lifting and i've cited how many statutes six or seven can you learn that many can you look at that and tell me oh that's my citizenship if it is i can't help you if you're so to retriev ignorant you can look right at the definition a citizen in those chapters and say that's me i owe social security i can't help you but if you if you if you do look at those definitions and say that's definitely not me gov dot com you'll see that there's publications for sale take from caesar volumes one into volume one is the one hundred eighty page complaint i served on congress in two thousand and six volume two is an appellate briefing as if it were to be filed in to let's say the ninth circuit court of appeals of these two arguments with a history of where they've been docket numbers quotes of the the way the courts have chosen to dispose of these arguments while not indulging them you also have the supplemental briefing from august of two thousand and fourteen and the supplemental briefing from just february a couple months ago that i filed on top of those complaints with three committees in congress and then you'll also see there's a code breaker in the section eighty three equation a manual about section eighty three that i wrote in one thousand nine hundred four i added thirty pages up to it a year ago as an epilogue to bring it up to date and published it there's a flash drive with three hours forty five minutes of instruction on and seven video segment where i start you at the beginning with the maxims you have to follow when you interpret statute regulations can't deviate from statute congress writes the law has to be interpreted fairly without within differences between the government and the taxpayer and that you have to go by on or precedent if it's the supreme court to says something you're bound by very easy to understand maxims of law canons of statutory interpretation void for vagueness if the average individual can't understand the law the individual wins when a controversy arises under that law so forth and then i get into a couple of different aspects of the tax code in order you watch those videos and it comes to a segment called tax code from the ground up where i summarized everything i just taught you about statute and then i build on top of that the understanding of the regulations they wrote to change the tax codes the statutes they ignore to pound on their chest the way they do when they in fact from the beginning of had no authority whatsoever and to show you that the tax codes perfect and the i r s is operating in outright defiance of the letter of the law in the tax code and with this understanding comes the understanding that your relationship with government is this you are the personal possession of a hate group the government is a hate group a racketeering and extortion scheme that operates to protect its felons in mass from the letter of the law at any cost no matter what they have to look like in the process and now you have hillary clinton tell you what there is a fire storm brewing over her head is going to come crashing down and if it doesn't drive her out of candidacy for the life of me and i've been saying this for years i don't know what's wrong with america but another exclamation points about to be put on all that with the scandal that's brewing regarding the clinton foundation and all these donations they've accepted from russian companies that are buying interest in your rainy i'm mine in utah contributions to the fund corresponding with dealings in the state department at the same time where hillary is determining oil deals or whatever and there's companies in colombia that stand to gain at the same time they're paying bill clinton  half a million dollars as a guest speaker there's a fire storm brewing over these contributions to the clinton fund right now and it makes me happy to see them so early on the trail of these contributions we've still got sixteen months i think till the election maybe fifteen and people are already on this like a stink there's a book out about it and it's just one little facet of the corruption of the federal government but these revenue streams that i've proven have always been illegal they've operated to do what for americans seniors social security  grade some of it's been spent on roads maybe but the rest of it spent on aircraft carriers and campaigns in the banker's image but in my name to set camels on fire and kill a generation of iraqis with depleted uranium ammunition that's all over their landscape so their children are born with deformities that will simply revile you and haunt your dreams and the rest of the world has put a target on my back to where the kids go to school and you have to wonder are they going to survive school today because if it's not a school cop that shoots them it could be a bomber that says the best way to go out in a blaze of glory in the name of isis is to wear a backpack into the crowd of schoolchildren waiting for the bus and detonate it as a suicide bomber and all of this comes from the gross mismanagement of our society and our economy by a group of bankers that think gun owners should be fleeced to the point where their kids are malnourished so bottom line on everything i've done and this is just income taxation you look at the chain of abuse how long it's been the chronology of it the way they've accomplished it and i would hope it's enough to get you to pick up at least a picket sign or the phone or your get on your computer and write a letter to your congressman and complain and certain documents and the arguments i've just gone over and the motor vehicle code citizen's arrest the right to arrest a felon what wouldn't you give to be able to prove to any r s agent that approaches you that they're a felon just for opening their mouth to you because it gives you the dominion a citizen's arrest ok so i've put as much on the web for free as i can afford to but in summary it's all right there in its nucleus if you want to know more if you want to read about it if you want something for your bookshelf for reference matter in the future by the materials get the videos you'll never see anybody due to the tax code what i do on that flash drive that has the video segments and if this doesn't cause you to acquire a brand new understanding of your relationship with government i don't know what will  and a page a shopping cart page will pop up and type in will that's our host ok w i l l and you will receive ten percent off the price of materials and another ten percent w go to support the host temper sent off the item and you'll contribute to will's effort here with his wonderful television show to hopefully support  the effort to get the word out you have to wake up when there's so much prove right in one place and it's not it's not a matter of political controversy this is about the law you're being stolen from by democrats and republicans everybody in the federal government steals from you this way and when i can prove that to you and show you that it's actually prevented indictment i don't know i can't tell you what kind of a feeling of satisfaction it gives you to hear from somebody saying the grand jury has been shut down the government went home and this person stood to go to prison on false charges when i can help somebody out of that mess it's  motor vehicle page there also we might want to mention that there are some some c d s and whatnot available for those because they're fantastic you'll see him right there on the web site motor vehicle code page i'm here to talk mostly about the income tax today understood but there's also a video on the you tube channel about public vehicular travel which the legislatures across the united states on a state level say is a right highways are open as a matter of right to public vehicular travel if you go to the see google altavista and yahoo click on google it's a search automatic search on google for the phrase open as a matter of right public vehicle or travel you'll get two point three million hits while the the roads are open it's a matter of right everywhere it's not a privilege they're stealing under the motor vehicle code as well it's amazing we're used to and you know it is yeah it's it's a different form of being the old west but it's still the old west kind of thing it's yeah the old west wasn't about high technology and these people have made technology of law the law has been so overdone the complexities are enormous and it's so they have places to hide from everybody except those who are willing to do the amount of work i've done well i don't know where i read it but i remember i read that if you don't know what your rights are you don't have it that's right you don't know where you stand you don't know anything well that's i mean i mean i'm thrilled i mean that was like two thousand and eight on the seattle miniscule court case five one six five one seven but it rips the whole court system up and they know it it's all built on crime and the theories of the anti tax movement about i must have assessed myself i must use the zip code i must have done a whole bunch of really weird stuff they've come up with all those are conclusions based on a presumption th work also he said that jesus christ buddha and krishna all said the same thing the only real sin there is is ignorance and that sure feels right to me at this time the country full of it and people are waking up slowly day feel it takes time it's their problem i'm already awake i can appear like this and what americans do with and to their country is their business it's it's out of my hands yes i've done as much as i can this and i do what i can to keep the government from speaking to me and if you want a permanent relationship with the i r s ignore me that's right that's right i mean i'm excited about the whole the whole truth matter here very excited and i think that people will as they wake up as we wake up they will turn to people that have the truth about what you're speaking of i mean competition with the anti tax movement they're all willing to yell louder than i do they're all willing to spend thousands of dollars on their website and they refuse to learn anything and yet they're out there pounding their chest telling everybody they can help them and when those people are facing an indictment they find me yes because they followed these other morons yes right up to the gates of hell and then the gates open and then they go obviously have been doing the wrong thing and then they find me so there's one fellow that i knew way back when who was with the patriot act and he refused to be taxes and he went to federal prison and the other guy who ran patriot act same thing on that there's a million stories out there what i was getting to though is that i can't be heard among the c shysters that are screaming at everybody that they have the answers so what americans do is their business i'm not going to stand around and compete with all these others all i can do is all i can do it's all on the web when you see that i've got the truth if you understand it to be the truth of course i'm not here to babysit you or beat you up or sell you something if you look at the truth if you can't recognize it at the truth go back to your oprah show i have nothing for you well you do actually you do and i know it and a lot of other people know  too when you met me it was probably more than thirteen years ago maybe fourteen one hundred ninety eight you said you had a certain problem and i said i didn't know if i could help you i you one document didn't even asked the court to vacate the case in that document and the court vacated the case rather than even look at the documents oh yes i remember you know your conviction on this misdemeanor you're free to go