journey fourteen years ago and she's though a reeky master and to day what i wanted you to help you discover what is reiki what it can do to you what all the benefits of these  very deep spiritual path after i had a divorce and i was building my business and unfortunately i had a business partner and things went horrifically the wrong way and and so through that i have been doing yoga and really you know getting into the practice of it more from a spiritual side than an exercise area and so i began meditating more and i took leni which is a very deep type of yoga and i just imbarked on further expanding myself into acupuncture and the thing i could find to really help move myself through the loss the stress managing my children and what was i going to do with my life so then i ended up in barking on a reiki master and using her to help me heal and i became very interested in it and so three years ago when i restarted the jewelry business i decided that i wanted to get more in depth in the regalia and i started taking classes with that specific teacher so  collected reiki one two and three in the u c reiki which is the base of reiki that most people study and then i decided they wanted to do more with the jury and so i met believe it or not around the corner from reiki master who has a very interesting background too and she teaches crystal fire reiki and so i became skilled in that and taught in that sort of level one and two and that  and then i said you know i love when i'm doing i went from the jewelry to becoming a practitioner and i said you know i really want to add more of the shia monic side and bring the elements in the crystals the jury and things like that and so i went to a mega institute and spent a week with a very famous master of monic woman and i became a actually comes from what's called the spiritual wisdom so it comes from the universal mind and it's the god and supreme being so it's a very deep thing that people when they say you know what kind of energy is this is it like voodoo no it actually comes from a very deep part of our consciousness and that comes from the creativity realms and also the genius and the miraculous it's called the bio field energy we're surrounding so we have we are living and we are and there jetted beings and so that life forces in us but it's also surrounding us so we are fully and meditated but also on a few reeky sessions and i was working with an amazing practitioner which is my next question you know how do you find or do you become a great practitioner and i felt the energy moving in my body so i am a believer absolutely and my so my question is how do you become you have to be gifted the re something that you have to be gifted so how did you realize is this something you realize you had in you or some to you realize when you were learning or is it just a question of learning so i believe that you know if you believe in past lives you know we won't get the into that but there are people that believe in that and i believe in that and so sometimes being the healer in another life sort of surfaces and so in this life i just found that it sort of just came  of me and the reiki energy is taken in in different ways in every practitioner so some you might feel the reiki some you might not  you know and it can be a moment of great and knowledge of that but you know how strong the energy flows through your practitioner is also oh how they've opened up and check how the energy is channeling through that depends on hope and i am well you need to be opened so right so i always say if you're in if the client is not open the energy won't flow so you know if they show up and they're open to coming to this type of healing modality then there are already but the you are still and blocking something can they feel the benefit after well what happens as a lot of people when they're more stuck in the mind and cannot shut the mind down and cannot relax so i feel like a lot of resistance they will take away something from it but i actually can feel that i have to like really i have to channel the energy because it's not me so i have to channel the energy and usually like i'll spend a lot more time on the head but i can also feel which is some practitioners don't have this but so i'm sort of an oracle to what's happening in the body of who i'm working on so i can feel either the anxiety or what's going to happen so so in the regular session you'll be fully clothed and you know we don't do any type of undressing but i do touch the body and i touch the body in specific places according to reiki touch we don't touch private areas we hover over them to let the energy move in my sash and so i clean the room and there jadick leave from every person and that's very the space then there's an issue that you can pick up other people's eyes pretty true because you know when you go into a place you can feel the energy if there is negative energy positive energy tension so it's really true that the energy is so wrong us and we can feel it we can feel it and we collect it so in the session so i do that but i work with crystals i know you brought some ways you can see can you show actually have points on them and so they actually generate the energy through the body a lot stronger so i like to put them in the client's hands while they're laying on the table and then i use this wonderful flat crystal and into the camera and and this goes directly on the center of the forehead and it helps to open up the third  and the crown area so i love this and then i also use smokey cords and these are for grounding the body so the usually go in between the legs on the lower part from the knees down and that helps to settle the body and go into a grounding a balance and then sometimes you sell a night and sell a night actually is a beautiful  crystal and that actually raises the vibration in the body in just a beautiful way so sometimes i lay those on the client were just so  benefits of reiki let's talk a bug what it's going to do for me or for your clients so the basis of reiki really is it brings a calming to the system but it's also going to open up where there's blockages in the chalk or a system which you know getting into that is a little deeper but we have you know all these different chalk whereas in our body and they actually hold the emotions and are actually our emotional body so when people come to me anxiety depression and stress i've worked on people that have all kinds of different ailments recovering from breast you know reconstructive surgery cancer issues actually the american health association now is really they have they're pushing reiki as a very top extra alternative healing and sloan kettering fox chase now have reiki practitioners in house as they feel that it's really helping people with nausea and just you know moving through going through different illnesses but i also find that a lot of people have they can't bring the mind down and they can't quiet themselves and with all this electronics that we have and  now everybody brings it is and so you know people and getting where you have disease it's really the body where the energy level is dropping and so when you become lower in your energy you become more susceptible and open to catching some type of illness or said yes i have to say you know having worked in pharma all my life i knew about clinical trials i did one for my  did my research on reiki before the interview and there's not that many studies but it looks like there is more and more studies and as it's been used as an alternative therapy to help patients in more and more feel after a session while everyone takes the energy and differently and so it's hard to say specifically but most people do some people falsely some people actually have visual experience says but everyone the basis and the overall of how they feel is they feel very relaxed very com it's i've had people say wow it's even better than the massage because it really lifts the the person up and you're energetically in the whole different state you know so that's the overall sometimes after though i i actually am a very hands on practitioner and i take this very seriously because i'm working in an emotional body and so within twenty four hours i usually message the client and i ask how they're doing because sometimes believe it or not emotions come up and they might you know take the energy and they might get really emotional and they might feel agitated they might feel upset  field i actually can send an urgency and so i will say to them you know and i'll send the energy and when they send the energy i can actually feel through my hands that they're receiving it and then i just cut the energy from me to them and most of the time i'll texan like an hour or two later how you feeling how are things going to feel so much better i feel more relaxed feels agitated so you can actually talk from a very good experience so my son who had second degree burns all down the front of his legs and he was in the burn unit in d c and raw skin i mean horrific and i actually won then and i did reiki on him for two days straight and pulled a lot of the feet out of his body to the point where he actually got cold and then slept for several hours that sometimes what happens to if someone has a very big trauma to the body like that and so within a couple of weeks he actually went back to see the doctor for his check up and she said i've never seen a one heal like this what would you do so he said well my mother did reiki and she said wow that's amazing so you know so it can be used in many different ways and i've actually had some clients who actually had plastic surgery and i've worked on them i've had reconstructive patients and what happens is the reiki actually pulls all  the trauma to the body so there's like the soreness in the healing get to energy exactly so that gets pulled out and you can heal much much quicker so yeah what makes  the the journey that i had and really the challenges that i i had in my life i want to be able to be the healer that i am and i strongly believe that people that are doing what i'm doing really have to do the work on themselves in order to be able to be open and have no judgment and hold the space for people that come in as clients and as my teacher says to me that god sends you who who needs to be healed and the level that you can handle and so i've had some challenging clients they're going through very different you know life situations some illnesses and unmemorable to manage that in a great way and i feel because i've really done the healing work on myself i understand that the energy is not mine and i tell that to the clients the life because once you're tuned with that's how we get the energy it will stay with me but you know you can have a practitioner who has not really done the work and you can actually end up getting sacked because of the person comes from an ego base and there you have not done the work they're working in your energy field and so you have to be able to step out of that and understand that you're just a channel but not be holding anything that is from your issues and so that's where i say you know to be a really great master practitioner that's what i would look for in a practitioner so what drove you you never stop growing and the master program the program was a week and intense every single day we were doing your practicing clients well believe it or not we did a lot of journey traveling in in the spiritual realm and so that's where you actually learn how to journey and travel and move the energy and you also become aware of how expansive this is but i've done different programs i actually did what was called a lion's gate retreat for two days very very deep peeling and i learned about sacred geometry and you know there's different there's layers to all of this and so for me it can never stop and then i am able to work with the client and say oh you know what i remember when i took this weekend retreat we learned about like this a corollary and actually the different layers of you know dimension one two three and you know where that's all coming from and where we are as a collective and i know now how this sort of help my clients with how they're thinking and where their patterning is coming from and that's all from just continual learning so one of my last question is how many minimal two sessions back to back and we try to get the client in within a six day period because based really you look at it as you have a bucket of water which is filled to the top and then as you go through different situations in life the bucket gets kicked the water spills over we go down we go down mary and so depending on how low that bucket is and water that's what i have to try and refill for you so yeah and so for order for you to really hold the energy the consistent and the closeness in the first couple of sessions at least to the three is where we're going to be able to keep you at that level and then from there i usually say ok let's see how you're holding the energy maybe you can go for several weeks and i have some people though message me and say you know what i feel like i've dropped and i need him in  serious yes i like to talk to the person i can actually feel in the body where they actually have blocks just from talking and getting information and finding out what's going on in their life and then you know i explain to them how the sessions are going to work and believe it or not by that point that's a half hour gone yes and then i do fifteen minutes of breaking on them and ten minutes at the end i explain to them what i felt and what was worked on so that they understand and they just don't leave and they're in the dark and you know i don't know what's going on and they actually leave with homework because i have them do different things so you know they'll follow up with journaling and i have them do a lot of bathing some i have to do grounding work essential oils are part of what i do i might have them do acupuncture and i believe in larry in other mo dalla these so i had a client who was doing therapy and seeing me and she was going through a very traumatic time in her life and she needed the emotional support so you know and then i have another client who does acupuncture and sees me so there's all different the bans on the person how much are you asking for the for all show that about one hundred seventy five dollars for one and a half hour for an hour and a half last question should be but how do you how do you how do you know it's working is this something that you feel like ok you can feel the energy moving or you can  or how do i feel or how's the client or client well so i have a lot of people that say that you know they feel very peaceful they definitely feel a shift that they're much calmer i can also see and clients when they come they also begin to unravel things themselves so i'll say to them you know if you look at what you texted me do you see that your answer is right there