group and intuitive life coach and we're really here to talk a little bit today about some new programs that we've really been called to i'm going to say some things that we're introducing  within the world of change management and leadership development and thinking about we come at everything from what people need right what's the cry what's the call w dead talk to me a little bit about just your background and you know you've been on the show a bunch of different times so i think maybe our viewers might recognize you but like a little refresher around your kind of how you're called to some of the intuitive work and really i think a interesting lee what is that connection to the work you were doing right sure and thank you for having me again love to always be a return gues t just to give a little background on may about twenty plus years ago i started out with talent helping organizations to build their cultures whether it was recruiting or coming up with processes  working with leaders and really from that time on i really saw a huge difference in the way companies spoke about their cultures and the way that they actually recruit it and then to take it a step further the way they lived once people joined the organizations so for me that was kind of like a calling at that moment not that i was able to do anything about it at that time because i was busy building my career and to be honest a lot of leaders didn't really want to hear about that it's right i had to get time on people's calendar and basically camped out in their office for them to really listen to me about you know how to build a culture of excellence according to your strategy and you really have to learn to live what you are dictating out there right just what you're doing exactly doing exactly and you know people would always say how come we're not attracting the right talent well we would and then maybe they wouldn't stay because we really weren't living that way as a culture so that was kind of like a pet peeve of mine for a long time i always have been told what a great recruiter i was how great i was at helping put cultures together and when i was asked i was always given i would always give the answer that it's my intuition and it was always like well that's not measurable and i was like ok good start measurable so that was like a long time coming for me to try to prove that it was valuable and then finally i stopped trying to do that and i just said i'm going to be authentically myself i'm really not like anybody else and that's what makes me unique and i'm really going to seek out cultures that really organizations really that want to build that kind of a culture and want to work with an individual like me i'm really not for everyone you know and this work is not for everyone and it's definitely not and you don't need to be ready this way of building a culture is not for everyone so i would say probably in the last six or seven years going through transformations of my own with my own challenges i really started to get more in touch with my own intuition with my own inner self which led me on the path to meditation practices to really centering myself and really learning to love and accept myself and i think if i was to pick out one thing that's you know one common thread it's how do we feel about ourselves do we honor and love ourselves enough to step forward into what we're really meant to do right so for me it was a long journey as for many people especially women because we always feel unworthy so we never feel like we're good enough we always feel like how do we balance this what about this person i taking care of that i kind of stepped away from all that and really made myself the most important person and since i've done that everything has changed for me from my own transformation with my health and my wellness and my connection really to a higher authority which for me is god's right but it's really our creator and how how we got here and we're all connected energetically and a lot of the work that we do is really trying to connect people to change i process transformations in organizations so i think that the work that i do is very well aligned with the work that ally does as an organization and i think that us working together you and i i think that we have really become the voice of this work because we have the proof of how it works from a perspective of transformation and engaging people i really want to take it to the next level about engaging the individual centering the individual so that they show up as a whole person right they show up as more aligned with what their true purpose is right so that they can be resilient when they're taking on all of these different things challenges in business and i think that  that is a good synopsis i think of the journey and even you know as it relates to the work that we do and what we've experienced in corporate cultures and what you know as we've come in as  when we are trying to have people think about entirely changing their job role or it entirely interfacing with their job or whether it be the technology piece new process interfacing with new organizations new people within the organization there's a lot of trepidation and what i think we've seen year after year working with some you know very large fortune one hundred companies is the complexity of that help people as individuals respond to it because we tend to talk about organizational change as the organization right to adopt this guess what at the end of the day we're talking about each and every person each and every leader and so we took a step back even from the leadership perspective in an article we write about this a little bit to say you know we always preach about an procyon all the rest of the the godfathers of change are always saying leadership is the number one success factor in any change i mean you know this quote back to set me and trying to help leader show up how do you show up for your people what does that look like to be a sponsor so we're we're focusing in on that role but then we started to realize the leaders themselves were not either accepting the change and or dealing with so many other yes strategic changes within the organization let's play well ones out within their own lives yes yes so so i will never forget years ago when we were going to genetic and they shifted to taking a look at the whole person right and that's really what i think came to light for us yeah that this is really about the whole person we can say it's organizational and we've worked with so many different initiatives that you know it's about the organization it's not it's about the person and how can a leader if they're not really prepared to take people with them right there not ready them so right now can they take that ball with them so it does get personal and i think there are schools of thought out there that say oh you know it's got to be bottom line metrics driven r o y quantifiable let's you know let's see the numbers and that's all well and good but we are people and at the end of the day how we are wired how our brains are wired how we metabolize change and and other interfaces in our life really makes the difference so emotional spiritual and you know there's a whole bunch of components well and i think that we have to change the rhetoric out there instead of talking about the r a y and talking about you know the profit and how much money are we making and what market are we serving we need to put people first i mean we see that as a challenge in change management all the time technology comes in processes come in and the people are very rarely thought of or consulted yes so they never feel part of the process to begin with right so i think if you want to build a culture of excellence that is resulting in from the leadership right down to you know each individual you really have to live that way and i think it's important that we recognise that in order for that to happen it does start with the individual and if that individual is a c e o or a leader of a large business unit then they have to incorporate that into the way that they live work and show up otherwise they're not authentic and people know when you're not authentic right and that's kind of some of the things that i go into you know it's energy right we walk into a room going to magically we feel the energy of the room the people in it so if people have come to a meeting and everybody gets there on time but they're all looking at their emails and their phones and maybe they're thinking about a loved one that they left home that was ill and they're worried about them how does that have any i can't even imagine what the energy is at that causes because i've been in those situations when somebody hosting a meeting and wants to talk about someone and everybody is preoccupied so you kind of like taking a step back it's presence i mean it's being present one of the first things that's part of our program is presence and focus right what and what isn't mean right and how do we how do we deliberately pay attention on purpose and move out the distractions in a way where i can really be here with you well that's it and there are so many just directions in our lives everywhere i mean everybody knows when you get home at night you want to sit down with your family and have dinner sometimes your kids want to bring electronics or maybe sometimes your husband wants to bring you know the electronics to the table and you have to say hey this is our time you know i think we have to get better at that i was thinking about it so that was like what's different about how i grew up and how my grandchildren are growing up and i think it was because people really care of her each other we didn't have all the technology but we had everybody's parent everybody's neighbor was watching out for you if you did something wrong your mother got a phone call or somebody walked over to the house and cared about you right anough to say hey i'm looking out for you so i think it's the same thing that we have to get back to basics again that we have to start caring about one another because we are all connected and once we understand and truly believe that then we can take the step forward and i think that's the initial thing that we need to get people to understand that we are all one we are all connected we are part of a greater good no matter what role we play no matter what our personality is what our ethnic background is no matter what it is we are part of a greater energy that's here to do something amazing so let's do it yeah yeah yeah no i think that i think that as as human beings i mean you know we go back to our basic core human needs and you know connectedness along contribution those are couper core elements of of how we're wired and what we need and i think you know it's funny because people talk about being more connected with technology but obviously that's a that's a argument that's out there i have because it we're connected via via the technology transactional transactional rather than  and you are speaking to you i'm listening to you i'm giving you that space for you to speak to me and build that relationship and listen it showing up everywhere right and showing up in our schools as we say yes so we really need to take th are not showing up you know when i mean that's obviously a big big part of it it's and the young children will become the future leaders so i think it's so important we as parents as individuals wherever we can to start talking about this and i think we have to have a greater voice we talk about it all all the time we need to create a movement around this i'm tired of talking about it i'm going to really be an activist about this and i mean i am i listen my personality i'm not saying i'm you know a shrinking violet i'm not  leaders a lot of leaders say all that sounds great and then all of a sudden everything dies down because they don't know how they're going to explain it to anyone who cares and this is what we've been trying to do i mean we we've created experiences right whether it's conferences or facilitated events where people are our resiliency workshops women's leadership workshops i mean we've created events to give people that ability to connect and when we're working within an organization we look to do the same if we are not working with an enlightened later how exactly they say we don't have time for that we don't have money for that you know this is a new technology that impacts five thousand people but guess what they have to use it right right but that's not the truth you know it really isn't the truth anymore in organizations that we're working because we don't have it's not a hierarchy all structure anymore you will do it because i say so what sometimes people will sit in meetings and smile and nod and go out and do whatever they want exactly exactly use there's broad sheets of their work around r you know trying to get people to understand the even if we're talking technology transactional process new ways of adapting to new behaviors that you need to show up with to do your job differently doesn't matter what it is it's like we need to spend some time you need to spend a little bit of time on it because it's a whole person well when you get what i want you know rahm's like machines we can't just say oh yeah we're implementing this and this is coming out this day so our everyone will do this day to absolutely and i think work that way i think it's a goal driven you know whether you're ego driven because you're leader that wants to get it done and move on to the next thing or whether you were sitting there and in your heart you're saying i don't want to do this but you're going to play along with it because that's what you're supposed to do and then you may talk to three other people and say who cares i'm going to do it my way anyway so i think that we just have to really create a safe space where people can feel comfortable to be honest and authentic because i think truthfulness is like the number one thing and it's hard to be truthful because you have to look into the mirror and you have to admit what you say but it comes back to culture yeah i mean you mentioned that earlier and i have i have actually heard it firsthand from several client organizations that we work with then it is the culture is not always set up for to know it's not not it's and so nine tenths of the ten people are insecure and they do not feel comfortable giving honest feedback they don't right so how do you set up a culture of that and to start with with leaders who have basic measuring control of that of that culture on some level they can start being the ones where you have to lea even if they hear the word wrong when you witness it is it witness it and you're a leader that can be honest about your strengths and your shortcomings and i'm not talking paid this these are the ten times i screwed up i'm just talking about being honest with your emotions and your reactions but to be able to do that successfully on the back up another step is what we're talking about right right is about being able to form something and bring people through a process in a program where they can start owning some of that they can they can get into how do i show off what's my character what's  presence i may think on this but if i'm showing up to the rest of the world in a very different way it's disconnected nonaligned and then it also creates a different energy if you're saying that i show up this way as an individual and my organization that i'm running shows up this way people know right away that's not authentic because they're experiencing everyday life there and we spend a lot of hours in our jobs so and you know when we do a lot of work around strategic planning it's really we weigh heavily on mission and vision and values and let's be clear if we say we are valuing this particular behavior yes how does it show up absolute house or how is our leadership demonstrating that value people perceiving it because like you said if you're if you're if you're dead if you're speaking one thing demonstrating something very different the perception over here is going to be completely disconnect and it has to be consistent through the whole organization because in my years of talent i was always the first person that an individual would speak with before even getting into the company to meet with anyone else and i had to make sure that i was doing a great job representing who we were as a culture no matter what organization i was representing and i couldn't do that authentically if i didn't feel aligned with the leadership but i don't have to tell you there were jobs that i didn't take because of that yes because i knew i couldn't lie to people will just get them in the door tell them this and tell them that when i know it's not true but a lot of organizations are doing that yet of people in their roles we take a look at are people really sated right or the associated or they are they really loving their jobs and they do they feel fulfilled they don't you know and it may not be because they weren't meant to do that particular job it's because this business alignment oh absolutely and when we talk about resilience it's all it's all over right it's how do we become resolving it when we've lost our jobs and we have to retrain ourselves and figure out how to market ourselves again and how to how does an organization see that is a value i mean sometimes an organ you know leaders in an organization would say i don't want to hire that person they've been out of work for six months and i would be like but what happened to them did somebody else do they have a bottom here with because service same person they worked in this industry forever why are we so worried about but they were they want people who are in the workforce who are doing the work and i'm saying to myself maybe that person didn't want to be in that organization and it was the cultural fit to begin with so we need to hire for culture and train for skills i asked that was my big thing and you know i get pushback on it but this is where i had to be authentic and choose who i worked  for and of course working with you has been so awesome and you've allowed me to do that so now i want to go out and do that for other organizations without a lie and you know i'm going to put like a call to action out there if there's anybody watching that really wants to be bold and brave enough to stand up and start talking about this work and actually start doing this work let's get out there and let's do this let's just stop talking about it so much and let's really get people into these programs and let's start the conversation so that we know what it is that organizations really want is this what they want are they brave enough to be true for it because this is true whether it's their talent brand whether it's their culture you know and for some people culture is a big word it's it's it's what do you what do your teams look like what are your you know how how are people showing up exactly what's the environment is somebody i knew was a leader i was reading an article about who said y get involved in those situations yeah and how often we hear well you know it's all going to be fine you know everybody's and then you have all these people who are figuring out to have a job and if i do have a job how am i supposed to show up right so how are we communicating with them how rain gauging them and how are we helping them redefine themselves so this this is what i think this program is about this program is about if you're a new leader and you know you've got some challenges because of you know maybe you were put into a position where you got to do things that's a little out of your comfort zone and you've never done that before this is an amazing program for that if you or an organization that has gone through like a merger or acquisition and you're really unsure about how do i go about this how do i really prepare a leadership this is another way yeah and i think so you're right and i think this this fits into almost like three different categories we originally were looking at this as part of our change strategy right of the work that we're already doing right so you know coming in working with leaders on major change you know helping develop communication plans and executing getting people involved in everything from video to making movies to all kinds are really fun things including social media here and then training educating people and getting people really up to speed right so that's kind of been the gamut for us right and now incorporating this stronger leadership program is part of that is what is really making a big difference but you know like you said them where we're also taking this offering and offering it just as as a as a simple leadership development let's let's start here right i mean really it helps align leaders that are working together and then it helps them personally develop so it's fantastic and then we're going to offer it as a public offering as well which which really comes down to a call to action because it will be advertised on our isolations group linked in is we're going to reach relaunch that  right our personal linked in page is our website ally solutions group dot com but we're going to we're going to we're going to take this out so if you're if you're searching for purpose and you're searching for  meaning around what what you are supposed to be doing even in life right this this is this programs for everyone it starts with leaders but it really cascades to to just about everybody well it goes back to the individual if we're not aligned as individuals and we don't understand what our purpose is why we get up in the morning why we're here i don't really understand how we can do anything else at least for me that's how it affected me i mean you know i was pretty successful i was doing i was doing the same thing you know making the money doing what i thought i was supposed to be doing but then one day it just didn't feel balanced to me and i felt like i was putting myself first right and i was listening to the noise out there that was saying well you have to conform and be this way yeah and that's the part that's hard for me because i'm not a conformist to begin with but i just feel like where i am at this point in my life i really want to you know people of change that matter so yes and i love that slogan change that matter we we it's it's his whole mission and purpose and we are completely aligned there and i think that if that's your mission and purpose and you find out that that's what it is that you want to follow a path yeah that resonates in that manner so that's me right and so how do you reconnect with yourself to really again we started the conversation with intuition connects with god higher power yeah and really be guided in life that's that is you know at the end of the day kida and that comes from really starting the awakening process with which is really self realisation and that's really finding time alone it could be five minutes a day be three minutes yes just sitting with yourself getting rid of the noise just sitting with yourself yeah and really listening to the inner self and saying what is it that the inner voice is telling me now that i've gotten rid of all the noise because that's what we have to do yeah that's the purpose of your ability to calm yourself and clear your mind yeah it's schwinn you know crisis happens and stress happens that's the problem we get reactive and it's where it's where these emotions hit our brain right we wanted to be in our front cortex where we're making you know some sound decisions that we feel centered in those decisions or is it going to hit our middle and we're going to be angry and upset and reactive and so that is a part of our program that i think is is fantastic yes is teaching people that and then listen their practice we can coach that right we've got all kinds of diversion coach that he has that but at the end of the day you know you need to make the decision as an end and there's no right way or wrong way cheer way it your way it's what works for you so we introduce all this absolutely and that's what i think is unique about it because we're combining so much we're not putting it on the side and i think that's where it gets watered down yeah it's not just  wellness thing it is integrated with who we are as a whole person and i always show up in every area of our life so i think that's why would the way we're presenting it is very unique yeah and i think it's very needed and to learn more about this you can connect with