than ten but i'm i'm hoping we're picking the ones that we've discussed at least i'll have to because those are practically the only films i've seen so let's do this let's just go start janet then marilyn then myself nine the wedding party and the israeli film which i loved eight identical blake seven ladybird six beatrice at dinner five the big sic for winter ever three interesting too the shape of water three faces places or in jackson heist next libras one of them is not two thousand and seventeen and five three billboards outside epping missouri well some of those you're mentioning i didn't see and i was scraping around some of them i forgot that i'd seen so i didn't put them on the list but i'm still sort of satisfied with my list and they're not after you get the down to about five they're not really in the kind of strategy order yeah so i'll start top to bottom shape of water dunkirk ladybird number three four and three billboards five baby driver six a quiet passion i think that was on our list seven the florida project eight the big six sick know gaining momentum we haven't seen that's correct i think just quickly these are the ones i haven't seen that might be on my list that downsizing the post all the money in the world a fantastic woman mollies game in the fade i have seen in two thousand and seventeen or whatever year it is and the first ten are usually films that were released the year before yeah yeah that's right taking time to get yeah yeah they take time for me to get around him and so i'm sort of the florida project which was my first choice was so unusual yeah and so fresh and so sad minutes contrasts between the lives of supposed discussed on the show so if you watch this you know they're the lives of these welfare motel people against disney world which was the florida project in the morning to disney when they were building it that's what they called it now of course the word project has two meanings new i just have never seen anything like it yeah to me it was the perfect combination of something that socially conscious and it is about the welfare of children which we should all be concerned  about and the difficulty of figuring out what to do about children who are at risk and their relationship with their parents who may not be terrific parents but they're their parents it's soul and child welfare is not a great option it's still up a pope because every parent we see should really be getting a minimum wage or hot a higher minimum you know this is part of the the discussion now in this country it's minimum wage these are single parents who can't live they just can't and that what they do they're not going to get out of this rut and their children are concerned to the right as well and that's the cycle that i think comes up experience and they just got naturals right in this whole thing i i certainly picked out i didn't have it as as high on the list well why not well one of the things i said this i think in our discussion we did had it on the show was it was a kind of a loose jointed thing that felt like it was drifting at some point to me of course it all came together at the end in a very powerful way but it took time you had to be patient with is on my list with somewhat reservation you mentioned that when we discussed in the well first of all i had reservations about no reservations but the other thing was that it was it was an amazingly well constructed but you sort of knew exactly where it was going yeah well sometimes those are good if you if it's a film that so tightly done and so expertly crafted that you appreciate the gravity appreciate the craft but it was nothing new nothing effects and now continuing with why i did but almost the same reasons as far as a project but for a different situation that's why i chose get out is number two because again i've never seen anything like it i don't think anyone has and at the time when it came out people were commenting about this like johnny is yeah you know it's such a sublime mixture of genres but also so relevant to that the plot doesn't make sense in the way it makes sense it doesn't make sense of the plot but it makes sense in a larger sense of what people people in the situation of the characters in this movie feel about what their lives are like that they feel control that they feel like they're there they don't have any power that only those things that that are raised and part of the  part of the comedy because it's also funny harry is that is that that feeling of that white people are completely oblivious to their privilege and that black people feel that they don't have any control over their lives so from as a social document this as a sort of what happened that it that it that it was discussed everywhere and i think  reality yes certainly the main character was adam and certainly the creature is right something that is magical right rather than something you what about the acting fine but i liked sally hawkins better in maadi will ok yeah i did and i mean maybe that's because it was such a melodrama but you know i do think that the set in this and also another film that wasn't on my list wonderstruck yeah it was just magical to watch oh yeah well that's why it's my number two because anything i have a prejudice for films that are gorgeous to have yes and it was even though it's about spaces that aren't conventionally beautiful that the laboratory in her apartment which is kind of seedy but there's something magical about it was certainly visually what he was able to do and you know let's say oh yes it's great that he used seventy millimeter and that the grain of the film is snake back there and everything like that and it's great to look at but it left me cold i had a very different reaction to it and i've seen several war films like to me one of the best war films ever made as big red one terrence malick and that's very philosophical that what get my red red line your thin red line you know that's what i'm thinking of but in any case i think about dunn kirk why that makes my list is simply as an immersive film experience whether or not it's conventional but as a piece of filmmaking it's incredible i mean if you see it in the theater with the full bore everything that's available to you there's there's little else like it especially for considering he's not using digital in the model that most people are probably going to see it on d v d on their homes it will lose a lot well you know that we'll say that's not enough that's not the director's fault and that doesn't other words it shouldn't take away from our appreciation of the film film right i think if you're going to be overwhelmed by the fact that it's enormous but i think at the time i remember i hadn't seen it but i remember you in this of that when i thought you had mentioned and at the time that there were three stories going on separately at three different were both written and directed by the same person yeah and i wonder if there is a trend now where people are given more control they they manage to get to have more impact no i think it's a matter of that that that a lot of the films we discuss on the show are more common in that area but but bob bob has a good point how many on your list on my list at least five six seven eight almost all of them were written and directed by the same person you're right and dunkirk is certainly not a in the small film you know and that's are and directed by christopher nolan you're right so i did it just occurred to me after i put together the  list some of the exceptions that we like like the we all had the big sic on there i think where you had michael showalter doing a screenplay by camilla nunn johnny and emily gordon who are essentially telling theirs their story  said he would come mail would not really have been a director i guess he doesn't have that in his wheelhouse so to speak not yet not yet maybe you could have but that's a case where that story and the acting as well the cast do excellent just couldn't have picked a better yes to do to do that story i i after watching the golden globes i mean i thought sam rockwell stood out when i saw the film and i loved for its mcdormand but after watching the don't know  so what other highlights why you were some of your things further down on the list as well things that you wanted to fly put put a couple of documentaries on my list yeah because i always like a very interesting film and just a of just a very interesting agnes varda and jay are both very interesting people and what they do with their art and their thoughts and their relationship in the film is just very interesting to watch you just want to be friends with them and hang around i sure felt that way when i saw it and i loved what they were doing and how they were elevating people that no attention paid to them their entire lives just by putting did a big picture of a little baby peeking over the wall i'm an actor grossed out all well anyway what i was going to say was at the time i really love that and then i asked my son in law day anyway and the other one i wanted to mention was frederick wiseman did this year he did a film called exley bridge which is about the new york public library on main reference library and branches  and it's just wonderful and heard of new york city and what an institution can do or what an indian ocean how they make their decisions about what to do because in that case they discuss at length that competing but they're not welfare office and they're not hospital but they are the ballet and there's the welfare of library the branches are definitely gritty there you see him returning and the other film i mentioned which is last two years if you would like his gritty it's called but but he doesn't there's no narration and there's no voiceover there's no there's no direct he just shows you the stuff and you make of it what you know that's his style is that all exactly that and i thought you would have lucky on your  project you have a really wonderful and everyone in the shape of water i thought was great sally hawkins richard jenkins michael shannon olivia spencer they were all really really good and  no need i saw that indonesian genocide there's two of them now and he has another which i haven't yet called the look of silence yet but the act of killing is amazing yet so odd stadium oddness it is very odd but completely compelling and horrifying well did anyone see loving vincent now i strike mary yeah but did you see it yeah i did i've never seen that kind of process before but anyway go to church ok well i just want to reiterate i'm i'm looking at some of these people who are writer directors for more output like that way martin mcdonagh watching for whatever he does it christopher nolan has had an interesting trajectory i