january twenty seventh team so we're nearing our two year mark it's amazing how long you've been with the front center i started new york runners in october of two thousand and sixteen so just about the same amount of time as the run center started a few months before ok now there is really the first because it is yes it was it's a completely made up position specific to runner programming and products and really just kind of creating a different type of educational training and kind of cultural resources for the greater new york city running community and focusing and creating this place to be this epicenter of running quite a mandate i totally impressed up in doing just show for  nutrition or day or something history of romney or just a panel discussion where you have the great carrie corporate come in and talk about his day at that court so who comes up with all these different since i was seven so i have and working in different jobs for this i just have a general appreciation and curiosity of brut putting together running events putting things together like i said i gary corbett he's been a long fr of the road runners for a long time of course that was the co founder and president of the road runners ted corbett has the event named after him gary was out i want to do an event and i'm like perfect loved to create something for you and i chat when we make it happen we do book clubs and tell chats and all that stuff i mean that's just kind of the part of what i appreciate in the most satisfying thing about my job is being able to create all that stuff and think about it they have an idea and be able to make it happen to reflect of course every he couldn't believe standing room only there so moved demand of a finished first new york city marathon an elder veteran crying because we were there to hear him speak that moment  global reach so that you know we'll see in november how many people from every corner there are going to come to run center which is going to be super exciting you know i love to shirt thank you in fact i saw the shirt you guys did it events global running   and i work with against world records to actually create a record got the parameter set and there's very know a lot about guinness world records now but it's very specific standards of what you have to do we ended up doing two hundred fifty to two hundred fifty  miles with two hundred fifty people we had to run one mile consecutively and everybody had to run at least nine forty one pace so we did just that and it took thirty six hours and we had two hundred fifty people do it we unfortunately had one person just happened just fall off the treadmill which set apart our chance to actually have that record but it was still an incredible event and yes i was the two hundred forty ninth mile of that and this is this is the if i graduated my eighth grade with twenty six kids in my class my brother graduated nine so when i say small is extremely small and yeah it was it was like a very idyllic place to grow up it's in northwest new jersey kind of in the woods kind of lacked a little bit of worldview and perspective because it was a little bit of a bubble think of like pleasantville almost and that's kind of why i like enjoy being in new york now out of that a little bit but it i'd ride the bike with him and occasionally go for a light jog but he never really kind of pushed or anything to get me to run right this race in new jersey it's called the million run i think it still exists but we he was going out to run the five k and there was a kid's race and stuff and i said dad i want to run the race like yeah you know you get the kids interested in the kids or is like no i want to five k oh and he's a he's like ok and i think about it now you know i was i was actually thinking about this earlier is you know he was like train he was like geared up and ready for it and he could have just you know and i think you can just do the kids race but that's like a pretty nice dead thing to do you say all right come on jump in we'll see how it goes and kind of ditch the the effort that he was going to put in to run a fast college you probably or your family wanted you to decide on a career for yourself yes well with the planned exactly that that i graduated college and they're like you should get a job so i was pretty hard set in just getting any job and i was interviewed for a bunch of different stuff and i got a job at this recruiting firm was like a technical recruiting firm just because it was a job and was it was kind of pitched to me like a you know  you'll be helping people get jobs and it's like i can get behind that right it will what it really was sitting in a chair on the phone my boss literally sitting right in front of me and i'm cold calling i guess like h r raps to figure out like holes you know or like open positions and it seemed really invasive and i later ever my my my boss my then boss just i being coached through this talk while the other person's on and he's telling me exactly what to say and the person on the other line saying is somebody telling you exactly well i lasted five days there five days five days days i went out to lunch with my my boss then and  had a twenty five dollars cheeseburger is that some like fancy steak joint and i said i don't think i can do this anymore went back sunday paper i was out oh it was a great learning lesson because it really mean that again was like another  that i can't do things that i'm just not fully passionate about and it really kind of steered me towards understanding that hey you know i i really like running at that point i was bent into the pursuing that semiprofessionally professionally actually running and i thought hey like how can i enter twined what i what i really love in life and a professional you know and so what was the next step i started working with i did some stuff in college with nike running with their outsourcing agency and then it was actually my fifth year i came back for another year and we ended up winning n c a a championship for cross country thank you but so after that i still had some running goals that i wanted to pursue and decided you know if i don't very picky yes i just started trying to train full time and i went down to florida for a little bit and the summer i went out to mammoth lakes and smelt the training and a few really it months later so i started ok so so you retired from competitive running but i think you did something really interesting and durrance run with four other guys tell us about yes as my my competitive running career came to a close that was about like twenty twelve twenty thirteen ish i you know you kind of transition is where transition because running for me it really defined me and being a better runner was was so important and every single goal that i had in my life was was really connected to running figure out something else that challenge me knowing now you know like ok i did ninety hundred miles a week i'm not going to run much faster so what's another way to challenge myself and also running seems to be kind of a good weighted to test another limit as opposed to trying to going as fast as you can so i had a friend from brooks actually that had done this crazy run in the grand canyon where you run from the south rim to the north rim and then back to the south rim it's called when i first heard it i'm like that's absolute insanity would ever do that and then when i started thinking about another way to challenge i said i've always actually wanted to go to the grand canyon and what better way then to go and run every single step of it about forty seven miles and the elevation changes twenty thousand feet it's an unbelievable challenge and really one of the really honestly the coolest thing i've ever done in my life i don't know what thirteen fourteen hours so your college friend i mean you must have even bonded even closer to me yeah i mean that's that's what's incredible about running you know running has given me so much and it's given me so many friendships from from college and there's these time and space to celebrate running around in culture so we're going to have a really really good cast of panelists and all these people coming in to talk about running we're talking we're going to have an incredible pro field from the  tube content creator has millions billions of views i think he's a runner and he absolutely does run he's going to come and talk about running in filmmaking and how he uses running to kind of creatively fuel his process we are going to actually put  balance where innovation chat so it's really going to focus on just creating great conversations and stuff all about running and hopefully try to continue to grow it oh it will definitely grow so it's november oh right yeah well any final words but one thing that has really gotten me through through through my career and stuff is just being focused on and i'm kind of following my passion so i'm big on whatever that is for