fact of creating compartments in which particular operations are carried out and these operations on the one hand may have forth within the cia you know the entire career that i spent in the cia i was in the analysis half of the cia the other half being the operational  or you could call it the dirty tricks saf you could call it just the half that did things rather than only talked about things and wrote about things i was in the analytical half of the agency very seventy's for two and a half years in vietnam if you just stayed in washington as an analyst for the cia you really only were pretty fully compartmentalized away from operational work done in the agency and you did not have a need to know and the discipline in the agency was pretty darn good like most peer ocracy so there's tension between the people at the top of the organization and those from the time the why the compartmentalisation in some instances creates a means for different political factions to write their own foreign policy one of the reasons we have trouble understanding how things actually happen behind the scenes is because of inherent to intelligence organization those and so even within a very secret operation there are many more secret levels there are many more cells competing factions and what have you and there are fascinating stories for example about how o p c the office of policy coordination which really became the hub of the covert operations the cia would do all over the world very often we had situations where the cia was investigating something and o p c was actually doing something and hiding it from the rest of cia and putting false material into the files to prevent discovery and so this is very complex very deep very profound material it's something we need to do much much more research on an important compartment and the u s intelligence bureaucracy is the engine or nongovernmental organization the majority of these groups american foundations calling them by impressive sounding of meaningless names their sole function was the channel money from the cia to let second kind of foundation now these foundations will reveal some obscure some well known all involved in legitimate philanthropy but now in addition they agreed to become conduits for central intelligence mixing up the government money with their own and then passing it on to the ever growing list of private organizations which during the saudis that is in the sixty's were climbing aboard the cia payroll let's take a closer look at those legitimate foundations which became c i a payout agencies they are among the fifteen thousand charitable funds that have sprung up in america in response points later those social consciences of the rich part of the structure of our tax laws they are the operative arms of what is commonly called the american establishment the power structure of moneyed families all gas law firms prestigious universities which have so much influenc shaping american life and national policy since world war two c b s newsman norman global reports on some of the foundations which channeled money for the cia this building is seventy three treatment street boston just under its windows live the historic old granary burial ground last resting place of such revolutionary patriots of samuel adams and paul revere the building directory doesn't list it but tax reports of the granary fund show its home is room three twenty nine which turns out to be the law firm of hemingway and barns no one there would talk before c b s news cameras about the ground refund  proved universal among the foundations but grand refund reports are signed by george h kidder mr cator is listed in who's who in america among his former associations the initials c cia going around behind the scenes and trying to manipulate the process secretly by inserting money here and instructions there and so forth they have now a psychic which is this national endowment for democracy good morning and and welcome it's good to have you all here to help celebrate the launching of a program with a vision and a noble purpose and national endowment for democracy is just as we've been told more than bipartisan the establishment of the coup was actually sponsored by the united states itself the national endowment for democracy and funneled millions of dollars to venezuelan dissident groups and politicians many of her ticket cabinet positions in parent when an actual uprising arose in response to according to the cia's turner agents cannot engage in secret operations of any kind within the countries of the u k australia canada and new zealand without the explicit prior approval of the host government and shockingly australia's intelligence services since assuming power in australia whitman's labor government hadn't acted as a series of these included raises in wages when the new going to hand bank of sydney australia collapsed in one nine hundred eighty what appeared at first glance to be just another bank failure but after australian authorities began taking a closer look they discovered a tangled web of intrigue with all the elements of a bestselling spy novel a mysterious death the body later dug up from its grave illegal currency transactions big time drug operations and the central intelligence agency we were to become  neil evans given immunity from prosecution agreed to talk about the new going to hand operation on australian television from his account and others the bank had its genesis during the vietnam war four of the original stock holders were americans who addresses as air america army post office san francisco air america was the cia airline in indochina hauling men and supplies on clandestine missions and according to former cia agents even drugs out of the so called golden triangle where the borders of burma laos and thailand converge knew going hand sent neil evans to the thai city of chiang mai the commercial center of the drug trade he claims the c made millions and used the money to finance some of it secret projects the idea was that the money would be deposited with the new can hand bank by the cia through various channels hardly any of its top people were bankers many were american civilians and former high ranking military officers with ties to u s intelligence when they found the body of australian businessman frank knew given the bank's chairman shot to death a few months before the bank went under they discovered in his pocket the business card of this man william colby former director of the cia a new partner was michael hand an american green berets who served two tours in vietnam one of them for the central intelligence agency he disappeared a short while after the bank collapsed and is now believed to be did australian newspapers reported a connection between new can hand and the u s navy's super secret intelligence unit known as task force one fifty seven among its top agents cia man edwin wilson now under indictment for selling arms and explosives to libyan dictator moammar gadhafi and a man named patry lumas has also been find out what involvement the back might have had in the one nine hundred seventy five downfall of the labor party government meanwhile investigators on three continents are attempting to trace fifteen million dollars missing from the accounts of depositors including many americans here in this country the cia denies any involvement with drug operations in indochina the new going to hand back itself or the deaths of the two men who ran it gary sheppard c b s news los angeles in addition to th during the cold war for disposing of unwanted foreign leaders some of the plots called for lethal manufactured here among the most disturbing cia documents from the cold war period is the agency's how to guide on assassination beginning with the ironic disclaimer that murder is not morally justifiable it goes on to state the killing only casually investigate justify sid carnage during the cold war the official test of the kishen was to present the spread of communism and to promote what was termed the national interest what does national interest mean to you if you have a feeling that there is some document that is revised every year every couple of years some document that exists in the u s government that is headlined u s national interests and every year every other year this is gone over carefully by groups of people high in the government and approved these are our national interests that never ever once happens every single administration has and is able to make up as it goes along what it thinks the u s national interests are every single individual who works in the government  very well have in his own mind a list of what he thinks the national interests of the country are either the phrase national security or the phrase national life it has real meaning other than to be a political tool for keeping the public uninformed essentially the elite in its ignorance and in its obsessive desire to maintain secrecy and not be accountable to the public simple explanations they seek reasons that they can use as a gene pool that will allow the public to believe in what they're doing or to ignore what they're doing what most americans don't realize is that we the people are being held accountable by foreign publics for what is done in our name i'm john perkins and i'm a former economic hitman but we can always hit men dead essentially was to create the world's first truly global empire i was recruited by the n s a while i was attending boston university back in the sixt they put me through a series of tests and clued ng lie detector tests psychological tests and in that process they determined that i had the potential for being a good economic hit man they also discovered a number of weaknesses  character that would make it fairly easy for them to hook me into doing this job and so they they offered me a job as a trainee and it's interesting you know when you when you accept a job like that with the n s a they'll tell you exactly what you're going to be doing they tell you that for the next year or so you're going to be training and then at the end of that period of time they'll really determine what you're going to be doing but ultimately i ended up becoming an economic hit man we did it by using many different means but perhaps the most common was to identify a third world country with resources that our corporations covet like oil and then arrange a huge loan to that country from our in a zation like the world bank or one of its sisters but that country never actually received the money instead the money went to our own corporations to build big infrastructure projects in that country like power plants and industrial parks things that would help the very rich people in that country as well as our own corporations but not the majority of the people who are too poor to buy a le cheaply or what with us on the next critical un vote or send troops in support of ours to some place in the world like iraq and in that way we've created the sample on the few occasions when we cannot make it men fail of panama and because i failed to corrupt them failed to bring them around failed to get them to take on these loans that were so destructive to their countries and they were both assassinated by the cia supported jackals the economist but we would use this term economic hit man tongue in cheek and the jackals usually people who work for private sector what they call security firms or a company that will have a semi legitimate contract with some branch of the government to do something just protect our personnel and embassy overseas or maybe protect a media crew overseas and they'll be paid to do that but they'll be one person in that organization money's coming through these other channels sometimes the channels are what they call the black box money is from the cia money coming through these channels for hire this one person who is essentially an assassin on the few occasions when the jackals and the economic hit men both say oh then we send in the military we have an empire you have to ask yourself who is the emperor whether an emperor someone who is not elected and doesn't serve a limited term and doesn't report to anyone we do have a group of people that i call the corporatocracy which are the people who run our biggest corporations who do fit that definition they're not elected they don't serve a limited term and they don't report to anyone they like to say they report to their boards of directors but they're all each other's boards of directors and then the boards of directors basically rubber stamp but the c e o wants to do so this is the modern equivalent of the emperor they're all driven by one single motive one goal and that is to maximize profits regardless of the social and environmental cause and in heading for that goal they've created a world that's very dangerous very unfair unsustainable world that i certainly don't want to pass on to my grandson costs these private contractors have repeatedly rocked the u s taxpayer for billions of dollars from a military intelligence perspective benefactors a case in point is done career clients have included the drug enforcement agency the department of defense department of state the i r s f b i and of course every day the people of dine corp international are hard at work supporting defense diplomacy and development initiatives because we believe in the religious commitment that has made us a leader in providing government support solutions with twenty two thousand employees in thirty nine countries we provide total support in aviation and land systems logistics training inventory intelligence international development watched president bush deliver a moving speech at the united nations in september two thousand and three and which the mission even mentioned the crisis of the sex trade the president called for the punishment of those involved in this horrible business but at the very moment of that speech dein core was exposed for having been involved in the buying and selling of young women and children while all of this was going on in cork kept the pentagon contract to administer the small parts man threats vexing and is now working on a plate vaccine through the joint vaccine acquisition program mr secretary is it policy of the u s government to reward companies that traffic in women and little girls thank you representative the first answer to your first question is is no absolutely not the policy of the united states government is clear unambiguous and opposed to to the activities that you described the second question well how do you explain the fact that dying corps and its successor  companies have received and continue to receive government contracts i would have to go in and find the facts but there are laws and rules and regulations with respect to government contracts and there are times that corporations do things they should not do in which case they tend to be suspended for some period there are times then that the on of the laws and the rules and regulations for the that passed by the congress and implemented by the executive branch  corporations can get off of the pen out of the penalty box if you will and be permitted to engage in contracts with the government they're not generally not barred in perpetuity this contract this the basic premise that i would say this is a unit known as the joint special operations command jaison it's a separately in the pen and unit that does not report the congress at least in the years i know about and i spent if people read a story about last summer the new yorker the congress people very upset the senior leadership it has been given executive authority by the president as many as twelve countries to go in and kill we're talking about high value targets at that's up the correct recently it was revealed that jason has been training should add that the brits and even the e u have basically moved away from that terrorism name because again they like having these guys i mean if somebody else can do the dirty work and you can make an absolute denial as we have seen from the li our secretary of state who said we are absolutely not involved in the assassination of these five scientists and we have absolutely said it definitively isn't it nice to have an organization i'm not suggesting this is the organization but it's nice to have an that the current annual budget for america sixteen intelligence agencies is a remarkable seventy five billion dollars more than the entire military budgets of major powers such as the u k france besides there's no accountability and therefore they'll go on i mean general hayden who's now violated the constitution twice once with wireless smart tapping the second time with torture and rendition hayden is on record as saying that any time he wanted to close down a program at n  a the guy who would lose his status in his money this program was the only one who could tell about it so no oversight has really created a monster there are sixteen intelligence agencies it turns out that the state department which costs almost nothing produces the most value with open source intelligence with information that is not stolen and is legal and ethical and then you have the cia which has a mishmash of analysis and a mishmash of clandestine collection and then after that come the technical the national security agency which does signals intelligence including warrantless wiretapping and some other elements and along the short of it is that we're spending sixty to seventy five billion dollars of which  cia spends no more than six billion and we're spending it on things that don't work lockheed will spend one hundred million dollars of the taxpayers money on a satellite nettled self destruct the launch pad at lockheed will be given a contract to build another one i mean this is nuts policymakers are so stupid they would rather a secret picture than an intelligent human analysis and so the whole system is rotten the next president can safely cut the secret budget by eighty percent and move that money into education and open sources and do besley better not just for america but for the rest of the world to hold that information can be given for free and in sense made form so right now our government is completely out of touch with reality and it's the keystone cops on rumsfeld promised change but the next day the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism the war on waste seems to have been forgotten my all three budget calls for more than forty eight billion dollars in new defense spending more money for the pentagon when its own auditors admit the military cannot account for twenty five percent of what it already spends according to some estimates we cannot track two point three trillion dollars in transactions two point three trillion with a t that's eight thousand dollars for every man woman and child in america twenty years ago pentagon employee franklin see spenny made headlines exposing what he calls the accounting games i've also killed there and although he does not speak for the pentagon he believes the problem has gotten worse those numbers are pie in the sky the books are cooked routinely year after year after year retired vice admiral jack shanahan commanded the navy's second fleet the first time donald rumsfeld served as defense secretary with good financial oversight we could find forty eight billion dollars it would change and that be over with out every day at the taxpayer in the two and a half minutes since this report began the pentagon has spent nearly two million dollars and it may never know where twenty five percent of those tax dollars  acres with floor space totaling within seven million square feet it's usually consumption of electricity is four hundred ninety million kill one hour equaling maryland can only analyze a tiny portion of the information they intercept yet the very fact that they have claimed the right to spy on american citizens is a gross violation of their mandate similarily the cia which is prohibited from conducting internal security functions within the united states has repeatedly broken its own rules under operation chaos the agency spied on leftists during the civil rights era do you have any people being paid by the cia who are contributing to a major circulation american journal we do have people who submit the truth to other true american journalists do you have any people paid by the cia are i who are working nation network this i think gets into the kind of getting into the details mr chairman that i'd like to get into an executive session it is a great honor to be here with the men and women of the cia i've been eager to come out here to langley for some time so i can deliver a simple message to you in person on behalf of the american people thank you thank you for all the work that you do to protect the american people and the freedom that we all cherish was characterized by corruption and political and was closed down by constantine in three twelve eighty three hundred fifty three years earlier julius caesar crossed the river