where my dearest friends that ever i've known in all of my life and i think he's a dear friend a many people some of whom are of the persuasion of being part of the general society and others are major figures in terms of their importance intellectually and otherwise in new york and the world and that is joshua joshua wolinsky esquire i would add and welcome john so much it's such an honor and pleasure to be for a much better world well yeah i would thank you i'll take that and i have that bob but in any case the mutual admiration society but here we are coming just into the st part of the year two thousand and fourteen a lot going on and the program me this week we're going to try to be dealing with is i want to let the people know about your background which is very interesting and also about the phenomena of public access communications that men in mind had neighborhood network is part of and also about the changing environment within the city of new york with the change of administration from mr bloomberg  also your close association with our new borough president gale brewer which is very encouraging to me all of these things that maybe we could talk a little bit about today ok ok why don't we start with you you were longtime associated with the cuny right but your own back when you've been in new york all of your life yeah yeah yeah well believe it or not for eight or ten years i lived in washington d and that's when my matriarch whole family worked they were struggling in a common district like so many jewish women were struggling then and then one day during world war two they saw an ad in one of the newspapers you know for a purchasing commission in washington d c and they were  have tractors and he didn't have hobbit this they didn't even have hammers and screws they didn't have even hammer and sickle knowledge or appreciation of what goes on in the diplomatic or and cio right ok so in other words i don't think i would trust anyone any n g o s and any more i think they just they all in public were lation says they're in public will ations and they always want us say what sounds diplomatic status revoked because most of the diplomats not only mind their own presidents but they know what to say and how to say it how do you keep quiet and how to be non threatening controversial and generally not to achieve very much and they're into generalities you know i'm for world peace i'm world peace but the other the other side has to make all the compromise compromises and agree to everything and we should have the right to do whatever we damn please  lost respect from most non government organizations but i'll tell you one thing well quadea was a straight shooter and he spoke from the heart re o says the people who write under me would do we know everything closing the george washington bridge and i don't know what thinking about it oh yes yes i had dinner with him last night but i don't know  because of the depression and world war two a couple where we saw odd for me to find a really strong male pattern and i mean th departments in the bookstore and let me explain to you now some of the faculty who i work with at city college sometimes too little put store i worked for a bookstore down for zone by the city college they were the owner and they managed so it was an institutional store right so it was also the publisher of the city college present right and not a matter of yeah right and we had we had the ability to give free concerts socials and events that was a major place where there was a lot of intellectual break groundbreaking intellectualizing going on particularly a great deal of it where it was called the progressive tradition seems to have major major source of leadership intellectual the professor said you know so much more about the faculty senate and the politics and what's going on one of fuel has to make so finally i got professor  quoting crane wonderful yeah so wonderful guy and a lot of them yeah right yeah and people stop me all over they say i love men here is i used to yeah you've introduced me to him and i thank you for that eason jim children easters or with animal rights also yeah beautiful beautiful guy he was arrested for fighting for the rights to bayers and new jersey and yeah and then there are these interned ships that are coming up all over and years saying you were a listener of w b a i which is part of the pacifica network which it bit in place you know go hell and all that so that would bespeak generally what is called a progressive attitude towards society that they ought to pay some attention to or taking advantage yeah i mean giving advantage to the people who had long been disadvantaged over the long haul in our society rather than letting the people who have had all the money and power and so forth the power down to so you are a progressive and are progressive mentality and yeah i'm always  he's one of my talents this network and oh you are the champion network i don't think there's hardly anybody in new york b you don't know that's right you know and you're friendly with yeah i have even a consider her too competitive she isn't too competitive she's just what she has done is just unique not whole democracy now it's just  she has taken i think the th floor at two o seven west th street and couldn't turn that into a huge broadcasting facility  s the award for the most their most important story that had little coverage they would make a thing something that's very important and it was getting very little coverage and they were given an award for that pulled it off and when the rock war came and she was helping to organize that remember when they were to the iraq war the whole east side of manhattan was covered with people protesting that she was up on the podium organizing that and right along long she had been right along right in the cutting edge of that and being in touch with all kinds of people and she rich she is served the position that she's been able to carve out for herself in terms of an alternative media presence within the american model she had to be on and you know public television or you know advanced status and terms as a society that are than any of the things that we get on what's called the established media it would seem to me if you're of a progressive mentality  get two thousand and lie medical test send me a letter your primary doctor is no longer with us so they sent me a very nice poem with the new doctor administrator of the building and he comes back and he says the administrator never heard of that person can you call up the stock to have said yeah but this is a strange number this is a five hundred and twenty eight said a five hundred and twenty eight this upstate why would they give you an upstate doctor so i phone up the upstate number it's disconnected i had to go to a social so if there's anyone out there who tells me what regulatory agency can i go to complain about this that allied medical care  sent me of a primary physician that's non existent at an address where he wasn't nonexistent with the not upstate phone number that puts disconnected book son his son was murdered by best buy in other words his stepson went into a north carolina best buy store and tell you a lot i've had many conversations with gary no low over w p a and he has he has a very strange perception of he but you said you think this system is unraveled and yet you had a complaint it was something done wrong and so were it seems to me maybe it's worth mentioning that we've had a change in new york city we have got a new mayor we've got advantaged people yes some of the elders and some of the so there is some hope in that do you think and mr what do you make of the fact that mr de blasio won so overwhelmingly what does it say about the  the russians had decided to bury her in a crime when the wall i'll be darned so she's buried so a at one point and one mocks that the metropolitan opera paid to hammerstein money not to perform opera and compete with the metropolitan opera no kidding  i remember gale brewer helping you are no matter and taking great interest in you she was eighty six in lexington she had her office there somewhere well eighty eight in like and columbus in columbus came over lace was a humming thing of justice being dispensed to people in real terms and i think it's very encouraging that she's the new borough president and then kanina for a woman of seventy five is amazing debt we have to eventually get back free tuition and the five following they've got a long way to go and the kids come out of a college now with great big piles of debt they're just burdened with debt and it's just a place to go to get a certificate of doing something that allows you to make money it seems to be the focus i guess it always has been to a degree but the the single focus that motivates human society is the getting or dispensing of money and i ask you there were periods where people didn't have that in mind they were thinking about doing are doing something worthwhile that's rather than something just to get money and i  influential in getting some discussion about some ownership into people's hands which may still be a major thing that has to be addressed this day we're taping the day yeah ok carolyn maloney is in our congress when she was on the city council yeah yes so what we're talking about it you were saying that you think the city do you think what are you positive leigh and client are negatively inclined about the pre human prospect let's just say to put the brain out on this support as th of january two thousand and fourteen we've got a lot of things there's some hopeful signs in terms of maybe some sort of a breakthrough with iran and other kinds of thing and then there's a lot of people who are very distant a great deal of discontent the congress has improved record of about five percent or something now this is your great deal of dysfunction are you optimistic pessimistic for the improvement of the human condition that would be element to programming that might be done here man at neighborhood network they would encourage the optimistic possibilities that are an errant in the current existential situation in universe yes it's important that we do program and i have an idea i've been to step over in the last few weeks all these really so i'm just learning seniors centers and most of the people you know i'll give you a clue and club seventy six jazz said there was a woman sitting one hundred and six years old wow these people you better believe they have by high i q but they don't talk so they don't in terms of senior citizen yes i was asking a question about your general sense of the prospect human prospects now are you optimistic or pessimistic or do you think about the political class the intellectual class do we need of that role do we need some sort of new ideas and could those ideas find their way into the public consciousness through the existence of something like public access cable television where you and i do programming and bring it back to you know also linking and we also have to keep an eye out for the distress i think that that traditional pacific and that were as in but where do you think do you think we could become a source of positive movement of this society through what we are going to catering we are but it's a very there e haud road and i'll be honest with you i heard every word you said and i'm i no doubt our role is an important one and we've got to do it we have a lot to share truck people must do much more for warner kept phoning me up and say you have an appointment with the technician from ten am to twelve noon and if you agree push say yes and push button one so i did that five times so what did i do since i have a lot of training he would them and then he adds i i removed the wires from my pocket and i took it down to ninety six straighten they looked at the box and the vibrancy or somehow the hate that is supposedly bringing in to focus and progressive agenda what is the progressive agenda for new york state ok for the united states of america and for the world what are the major com you a lot of people need help and he seems he's i've seen him at the senior centers he knows there are food pantries he knows that a lot of people are in trouble he knows to young people are in trouble because his son goes to college and he is going to start making those who can pay a little more pay a little more in other words richard wolfe said that the rich don't even pay thirty percent taxes at time right and i was ninety two percent yeah that time rise norris said of war it was way up there he says that we have to do that we have to charge them more and also he's mentioned the possibility of a stock transfer tot's if you and i  pay a tax every time we have a cup of coffee why can't the rich people pay a few cents every time they transfer stock yet stab wound very well in their words you think of the tobin tax too or they want to get that done it hasn't been able to get the political clout to do or not some of these things and then you've got this congress that is all about stop and so for those who have a hard time functioning but go ahead i'm sorry but we all know we all have to get our off are people coming through that are doing was designed movement and there are things that are going on in those four channels can be made there we go there's there we go here we are the lowest being that kind of person i kind words because when she was my show on my show she told me to story that that this stuff i talk caught two burglars coming into his apartment they' said when you were insured and hurt did you go to the hospital and said no so the da said how injured and hurt could he be he didn't go to the hospital so lynne stewart said well that's happened down through the ages that they were you'll notice the baby at spartak as yet jesus yet all the people of the major spiritual schools saying they should be concerned this system should be concerned for the least among us it's largely been ignored throughout all of history by the political class as yours seems it seems it still is certainly in terms of the capability that is evolved in the modern experience yeah we've got a capability of taking care of every body in a way with the new technology and so forth in a way that's never been characteristic of history there's a modeling that shows we may actually terms of capability have transcended again at the level of capability not the inherited institution we may have transcended the iron clad laws of scarcity itself there may be enough we have the st time in two hundred thousand years of our existence paul and the ecology that is the promise of the existing reality at the level of capability and we don't have political or inherited institutions in defining generation not just a store going to change one party to another or the news of the political time of qualitative transformation in evolutionary terms and there doesn't seem to be anywhere where that kind of thing that  intellectual challenge is put up there you've got sometimes every dimension major spiritual or or just intellectuals a humanist people who can address that but you've got to have some place where that kind of thing should be up on the and the money changers holy tabby they want what they always have but something is changing now that's the point no this thing they're talking about is something that's only been available to us for about thirty  relevant to perhaps avoiding war that would wipe out the species and liberating the human condition within an ecological context we need some place where that kind of thing can be brought up the zite guys does a really into this now the mov future there's others and so anyway public access is a great promise for that kind of days and i love but i get so much out of put and i'm going to most who intend to have a will mention that and put up a graphic of what people know about that and it's a pleasure to talk to josh bermondsey the dean networker man at neighborhood network if ever there was one and thank you so much  coming back again tomorrow that's it for now josh thanks for such a very very very well led life see it tomorrow please tune in