is depression amongst black males and eaten by sitting here have experienced it and want to testify how we dealt with it how to deal with us and hopefully we can reach out and attract some contributions from our audience in terms of how we can proceed from here first and especially how we can affect on you so you first and let us come up with a definition for depression ok well according to the book psychological disorders a little treatment of solomon  clinical depression are persistent sat eight hours are empty moods may be too much or too little middle of the night or early morning waking reduced appetite and weight lost or increased appetite and weight gain loss of pleasure interest in activities once enjoyed including sex restlessness and irritability persistent physical symptoms that do not respond to treatment such as chronic pain ind igestion disorders difficulty concentrating remembering or making decisions fatigue or loss of energy feeling guilty hopeless or worthless thoughts of suicide or death and what they say you have five or more of these symptoms for two weeks or more you could have not do have but you could have clinical depression and should see your doctor or a qualified mental health professional  in these feelings and so that was really a door opener for me to go and get my own help one of my friend in order mentors roosevelt however made it possible for me to go to a mental health professional and get treatment and get medication and that was how i want to come in here and sort of an appointment for later he said well let me tell you something let me for a couple of minutes let me tell you a little bit about my life and the minister there for five minutes and told me about come through may be touched and reach out for help and be a benefit not only to themselves but to somebody else that may be going through it in their own lives right into and on today that know we're talking about  state that we just operate in that we don't even know that we're operating inside of you know there's a constant you know just in my own experience coming through gang gang life you know there's a there's just constantly that either the real up friends most of the time friends would come in they would move there and then also and they would move away so i never really had kids my age around much to really enjoy i was teased a lot as a kid  whole bunch of pills which a friend of mine actually prevent it from do and i used to just kind of walk down to the street sometimes you know just purposely trying to get hit by a car you know i had a gun one time that let's just kind of contemplate shooting myself but didn't but i think some of the things that helped me overcome a lot of that was through sports through the martial arts which our lives and they give us certain sides right there's you know they give a certain size it signals that something is going on with them and you know just being the awareness of not ignore no signs little people people that are dealing with this there's a feeling that you know i don't know what this all alone and nobody cares you know they you know people reach out in different ways and you know just being just of awareness when there's a difference in people in your lives used to be you know we just got to talking about why being willing to be nosy like sometimes it's ok to be you know you know sometimes being nosey can actually save somebody's life yes and so you know just being aware situationally aware of what's going on with people that you care but if you think about it a young black male going to school all the history is euro centric you know we don't learn about the great black warriors or great black scholars unless we go outside the here on the on the web site right on mental health america dot net and they've got the causes of clinical depression and one of the causes that can't clinical depression that i was in the arenas that cut cognitive ok and what they say is that people with negative thinking patterns ok and low self esteem ok are more likely to develop clinical depression oh oh so are you saying that this is this could be pertained to mechanism for bringing all cognitive depression work and inside the educational facilities is that there are kids particularly black kids or in black males that are always labeled a special wit they are also  witnessed black male who was in eighth grade who cannot read being passed off into high school and i'm like well how does this work and i mean and so awesome yeah and i see so much one man working in the position i'm in and i see so much of how these kids are passive the system they're allowed to skip classes you know they're allowed to do other things in their enabled and no one wants to deal with it no one wants to touch it no one wants to try to assist and if you try to bring up something like i do like i try to speak up and stuff they try to silence you or they try to find something to the fire you and so on the so they target you which is what i feel i'm currently going through right now and so they make it a  really work environment for you you know to twenty get you out there but you know there's just so much going on in these educational systems and i'm really glad that you know that this whole educational piece that was brought on oprah last week was really  brought out because attention need to be brought to it it's something that has been going on for a long time just like the depression which you know is also in relation to the educational because when you are failed in your education it depresses you you know that challenge when you're not made out to be or give an opportunity to be all that you really can be here you know if you look at another one of the causes that are present on the web site and one of the other causes they say is situational depression and what they say is difficult life means including divorce financial problems or death death of a loved one can contribute to clinical depression  parent presence specially black parents you don't see them coming in and checking up on their kids much you don't see them coming in and spin in time and talking to the teachers or tons of the principal or talking to counselors or whatever  how's my kid do and you know taking a bench they just drop him off or some of the school they go to where can that sit and so you know a lot of times there are these issues and the only time that you might get a chance see these parents is when something negative has happened and so you know i promoted in the society when they started saying that you could call the police on your parents you know then then that adds up to that was the styles of clothes you know they start they start to start up  on the clothes and lower and lower on the bus line so you have thirteen or fourteen year old girls walking around looking like grown women you know and all this was not done arbitrarily this is deliberate so these girls could have babies you know so they want so they dropped out of school they had two or three or four year old some kind of did they want the mothers in some kind of program the father is not there because he wasn't making a baby to be a father he was making the baby because it was fun of people today and hope that people will take a balance of you know the information and you know definitely if they have questions to please call the number that's on the screen the two zero six seven two to forward to eight and you know hopefully this