nine eleven it's happened it's used to justify the invasion of iraq after afghanistan you're now in iraq and you're going to look you're in charge of looking for other weapons of mass destruction in iraq fortunately  and this was of course to continue the pretext that we were looking for the weapons of mass destruction because they didn't want to leave iraq right and you found them but they didn't want the world to know that they'd been found ok now quickly only have about another ten minutes and i want you to if you could we got this message it's really important people need to understand that the weapons of mass destruction were in iraq that george herbert walker bush and dick cheney who was under george herbert walker bush president the secretary of defense shipped them to saddam hussein when he was our man in iraq that greg ford the man that you're listening to found them in iraq in two thousand and three and the pentagon said get rid of them don't let the world know they're there because obviously they wanted to have a pretext for staying in iraq so that's that now i want to move forward if you will to two critical pieces of your experience if you could tell us what happened to cause you to first off if you could tell us how you recruited  baghdadi who is to this day claim to be the leader of isis and therefore that that al baghdadi the head of isis was recruited by the united states army number one and number two what happened when you blew the whistle on the illegal torture at abu ghraib prison and what happened to you personally in response that has led to your court case that's now in the ninth circuit federal court of appeals in san francisco so let me let me interject here greg if i could the worst that the american public has been told happened in abu ghraib and other other cia black sites in military intelligence interrogation prisons is waterboarding but you've told me that these prisoners that their clothes were set on fire intentionally they were intentionally burned as they were go rotted which is basically choking them with a wire around the neck and a lot worse than that  law that you filed up through your military chain of command the complaints against this illegal activity and now you're going to tell us what our own military did to you in response well having pretty quickly  the correct ok now because we're getting short on time if you could do two things we got about three minutes if you could just tell us where your case is now and i would like everyone to know that i actually got great together with his current attorney who is helping him at the night circuit so i'm very proud of having been able to help in this in this way and then if you could just tell us your experience please very briefly after that because it's very critical to nine eleven truth of when tony shaffer who is the army head of the able danger data mining intelligence operation before nine eleven that we're tracking some of the alleged  alleged underlined hijackers of nine eleven your experience at fort what you can in july of two thousand and one before nine eleven if you could tell us about that ok now greg please tell us because we've got about a minute and a half i want you to confirm what you've told to me i want to hear it in your own voice that tony shaffer who is the lead briefer at that able danger  at fort huachuca which is army intelligence headquarters in arizona you have told me that he was asked a question by someone amongst the students the you know the trainees like yourself who were there in the room and he was in the queues or days afterwards