disappointing for us to talk about the power of the sickle when this is just to my oldest boy about you and who you well i think to understand who i am it's a little bit to understand how i approach personal training or changing people's lives i kind of look if you look at my title my todo is you know i'm a fitness studio owner of kinetics three sixty i'm a corporate fitness trainer and i'm also a personal trainer but i look at it a little bit differently i look at it that are two steps basically you have the physical coaching you have the mental coach and i believe as a personal trainer that you have to handle both you know a lot of times people come in and it's not just about being physically better a lot of times their stuff inside that you have to get to the root of as well so i believe in mentally coaching them and physically coaching them so it makes you a section on the different from all of us i think that it does set me up a little bit different when people come in you know i believe in personal training but it's kind of lost its meaning personal training means personal personal to the person that's coming and everybody that comes in has different goals different needs different ones you know i don't do what a lot of trainers out there do they do basic cookie cutter programs i look at each individual as an individual and when they come in i sit down identify with them i figure out what's really what's making them tick why are they struggling why are they coming to me you know why haven't they been successful before i think sometimes it's important to get you know learn a little bit about the background understand who you're dealing with as a person and then create a program for them interested i like that so what can i ask but for me t generally like i said you know so you come in you know we sit down and we basically have a fitness assessment you know i sit down i talk to you about your goals and everything with me is in three months and six month increments and i came from a teaching background so i look at smart goals you know it has to be specific measurable attainable and relative untimely to each individual a lot of trainers just sit there and say ok you want to lose twenty pounds this is what you need to do not really like that right because you're not involved in their life you need to figure out can they really get to the gym three times a week are they only going to come to you wants how's their nutrition what are they going to do when they're not with you are they using you for accountability you know there's so many different things that are involved with the physical fitness and the mental aspect of training sometimes you have to train the mind to you know take the can't out of their mind and only putting can i can do this but maybe i don't need to do it five times a week maybe it's about realistic expectations so i sit down there and i figure out what's realistic for them what's going to work for them because there are the individual and then what i'll do is i usually show them you know around the studio and then i discuss what's your limitations do you have any past injuries have you trained with a trainer before if you have why did you stop because if you can get to the root of why they stopped you can come up with an excellent program for them to continue and then we work on a little bit you know just a little bit on each machine limitations core stabilization flexibility and a little bit of lean muscle mass exercise building and also flexibility and stretching that's all important then i sit them down and i say well what's feasible what's what's acceptable to you what's going to work to you because if it doesn't work for you you're not going to come back you're not going to stick with the program and then we sit down and we say ok well now we need a six month goal and six month goals got to be a little bit different than your three month goal because three month is what's in everybody's head nobody ever thinks about the long term you know what's going to happen four months from now what's going to happen when life gets in the way so that's what i do i try to break down the mental barriers i try to set up realistic expectations for them which is really the keys to their success i love i love them wow so how would you describe what you do charge if we live how would you describe it i would say that i change people's lives for the better i when when people meet me whether they train with me whether they come in and just meet me and have an orientation session i want when them when they leave i want it to have an impact on their life you know even if they're not going to train with me when they leave there like you know when they go out to lunch maybe they eat something healthier maybe they walk from the parking lot instead of parking close to the store maybe they do a routine at home that's just five minutes extra of exercise maybe they meditate whatever it is it's changed their lives for the better when somebody meets me i want to have that positive impact so your idea clients will be well by train everybody i mean i could tell you train eight year old kids that are just trying to get moving you know because the public schools have changed what exercises in schools so a lot of times you know i'll do like a little younger kid classes all the way up to somebody that's a little bit more in the quote unquote senior citizen i don't like to use that term more in the geriatric preventing life skills and when things are working in their life you know off right is osteoporosis all these different things that happen as life continues but my ideal clients anybody that wants to change their life anybody that wants to make a difference you know because if you come in and you don't want to make a difference it's an uphill battle but if you come in your mind is right you're ready to come and you're like i'm ready to make a can you share with my view absolutely i mean i have had everybody that are just in a mental rut you know they're stuck they can't lose weight or they just got a really bad health diagnosis and they're kind of at the down of their luck there at the bottom of the ladder and it's my job to pick them up and move them up those steps so that ladder and to set these goals that oh my god look at successful you can be look what you've already done you know stop keep looking ahead turn around look at how far you've come everybody's always focused and moving ahead moving ahead they never turn around to look at how far they've already come that's what i try to do and i've done that with people with weight loss journeys i've had clients lose over one hundred pounds i've done that with people that are recovering from cancer you know that went from being able to you know i started training them before they were diagnosed then they were diagnosed and they had to start over you know i constantly tell clients all the time it's about reinventing your fitness level every once in a while right case in point with me i was a huge martial artist a huge power lifter i worked out all the time then i had bilateral ingall hernia surgery ok i couldn't even get out of bed ok so when i went back to the gym after i was you know i was stuck in bed for seventeen days i came out and i'm like i'm not lifting fifty pound dumbbells right now i'm lifting five pound dumbbells but you know what you set goals you mark things down on your calendar you look at your realistic journey and you say you know what i'm reinventing where i was everybody reinvents every ten years you probably reinvent your reinventing your job your reinvent with your family your reinvent with fitness and your mental outlook as well two things i hear on a regular basis more no time everybody doesn't think they have time if they have time to do all sorts of crazy things like scroll on facebook or driving go get a cup of coffee or just through tedious tedious things tedious tasks you know it starts with small steps start with five minutes of time ten minutes a time over some you look at a year and you're doing a half hour of time so that's the big thing everybody is and think they have time it's not that they don't have time everybody's got that same twenty four hours in a day it's how you use it that matters right everybody's got time it's about prioritizing prioritizing your health is what's important problem arises that's what it's about and that's what i do i basically like i said i'm a life coach i prioritize what they're doing in their life to make time to make them healthy how do you make your clients comfortable a lot of people don't want to go you know in tool some you know you know what i to so have you make the comfortable white well the ways of the keep coming back to you well i think the first thing that's very important with me is i wasn't born looking the way that i look i was overweight so when clients come in and they read on my website that i lost seventy six pounds and they read that you know i'm asthmatic and i've done all these crazy things they're like well wait a minute it's more real than somebody that just genetically was born and looks the way that they look so i think that they know that i that i live it every day and i work hard every day to stay in the shape that i'm in so i think it makes it more real which i think is very important and i'm very easy going i'm a straight shooter i tell him i don't promise some things that i can't do you know i don't sit there and tell them that in in twelve weeks they're going to be they're going to lose forty five pounds in this and that i don't do that we set weekly goals weekly expectations that even then when they come in they can see that it's not too far ahead it's just small steps to get to that big mile and i think it makes them feel comfortable and i have a huge background bachelor of science in can easily applied fitness movement science at penn state one of the top ten universities and i'm passionate and people pick up on my passion i live it i love it i love making a difference changing people's lives and people know it and when and they can see it you can't hide can't get back time you can't get back the marks to put on your body you can't get back what happens in your life in the past you can only move forward so i think anybody if they get that bug or they get that drive that they want to miss themselves feel better mentally and physically the time to start is now but i think really big right now and i'm big and is you youth is big because you create your habits when you're young you know if you're sitting around on the couch watching t v and playing these video games you're not out there i remember when i was a kid when you were outside playing six o'clock at night your mom and dad didn't know where you were you're out playing in the park or in the woods you're doing things everybody's now so sedentary sitting on the couch playing their video games on their phones and then moving they're now moving so the key really isn't moving when you're young and that also goes you never know who's watching you i have kids you know they watch me all the time i never sit still i'm always on the go i don't sit around that's not what it's about your kids are watching you so you know you're with his kid that being said if you're somebody that's you know in a in a sedentary job you're not getting a lot of activity that maybe you're getting when you were in college your time to get started is now everybody's time is now you can look and see everybody's different levels and what they're doing in life and they can all benefit from health reason why corporate fitness is like california and california is big  apple are big with bringing fitness to their employees course they are big we sit in there and bring it there because they know that their employees are just sitting there and a productive staff is a healthy staff  and they know that urban outfitters is another one in philadelphia that i used to be their corporate fitness director because their employees if you're healthy you're more productive you nailed it i love that disses disses this is this absolutely because at that time they're working to prevent injury they're working because of what life's throwing at them you know they need to work now but the program changes and that's where i set myself a little bit different than other trainers and it's a special population case somebody coming in at sixty five years old that has really really bad balance and you're trying to hope that in the winter shoes and fall in the snow that you can strengthen her core so much that she has better balance that you can work on building up their bone density so that they don't break their head so that these things don't happen life won't get in their way because you're building them up so it's a whole different thing when you're training people that are over sixty years old because that's when all those different injuries seventy or genetics that's when genetics and heredity and all that sets in and now it's about preventing it being preventive medicine instead of just improving strengths what would you tell people who have tried all dick who possibly you know to lose weight and decide to be going nowhere what i mean you know what i'm talking about absolutely what would you tell people a day well i think usually the key to that is something inside there is something inside and that is a mental block an obstacle that they're not getting past you know because they're not because if you take away all your obstacles in your mental barriers you can be successful in anything but there's always something in the way whether it's thir more whether they don't understand how to do it or they don't feel it's beneficial there's some sort of negative there that's getting in their way and if they can figure out a way to jump over that then they're going to be amazed with what they can accomplish w does going i think a lot of it is going to go into more of downloading fitness apps and downloading workouts that you can do another some of that now but i think it's going to go into more of a virtual realm it's going to be more virtual trainers which is great and it'll be cheaper and it'll be good in that regard what about fifty of this there's no accountability right these people are signing up for these products ok but nobody's making sure they're doing it there is no accountability there and there's no proper instruction if you sign on for any of those things you read at the bottom if you get injured broken rib you know injured knee anything it's your own responsibility that's because nobody's keeping an eye on you nobody is showing you proper technique nobody's showing any of that so i think that that's where that stuff lacks so i think there will always be i think the big jim's will disappear and i think it'll be more the boutique and more specific personal training studios then the big corporation gems but there you're always going to have those downloads in those videos and stuff where you went to a kind of three system i went to kinetic three sixty because i wanted to create something that was designed for the clients i've been in the business for over twenty years and i listen to clients and a lot of their needs weren't being met so i designed a studio that was big enough to have all the equipment that i needed but small enough where people don't feel intimidated or they feel that they're just the number to me everybody knows everybody's name we're like a family and that's how i treated you know and that's why design can extra sixty because we're results driven and success oriented  wife says i work twenty four seventh's i get text from clients at two in the morning you know on their nutrition and i get six thirty in the morning how successful they are that drives me success of my clients drives me i am one of those people to just feeds on the energy and success and passion that my clients are then picking up because i made a difference in their life whether it's that they can hang out with their kids getting on the floor crawling around whether it's that they feel better whether they're recovering from an illness and they're getting their strength back whatever it is i am making a difference and that's what drives me off that now you know you you mention the body you almost of it passionate about the ute now i understand that one o actually hit do you know what i try to tell people and it starts with the clients at my studio that have kids now get your kid involved in a sport get your kid to have an outside hobby get them off the phones and get them off the t you know it's really about you setting the tone for your children and saying enough go outside enjoy the environment and you know just stop focusing so much on this graphic and all that stuff and then it's about you know finding you know sometimes it's an individual sport like martial arts other times it's a team sport you know those start then hanging out with those kids because they all have the same goals they're all team oriented and it just it breeds success and it makes them trying to be physically aware is i do believe one thing is media i believe that magazines you know the magazine covers and you can look like this person and the reality shows biggest loser and all those different things they're false representation of life it's not real it's not real the pictures in the magazines they're airbrushed the biggest loser there's fifty five takes and there's a doctor right there because they have situations on a regular basis but people watch this and they think it's real and they think i can be that person i have people coming in on time can i do what they did on the biggest loser you know you can't do what they did you're going to you're going to tear your kneecap off like you can't do these things so i think the dad is a big enemy of fitness and then the other is cheap the big corporate chan's nine dollars to join do whatever you want those places they don't care about you they don't care about you you're a number to them they want to sell as many memberships and get as many people in there and hope you don't come because they know that you're not going to check that that money is coming out of your cow you know so i would say that those are the two wow what about the times i like that because a l you can listen to everything i tell you and do everything that i do in the gym with it and do everything physically but if you don't change your eating outlook you're not going to get all the results you might only get sixty percent of what you're looking for one so i think nutrition is key but i think the big thing with nutrition that people worry about is their like they think it's all or nothing and it's not you know moderation is kid everybody lives everyone wants to go out and have a drink everyone take on a birthday everybody wants to do these things right it's moderation if you know you're doing some day here yeah if you're doing something you're having cake don't have a drink at the same time you know pick and choose and realize that you're not your body is not to be like oh my god you just had that cake everything's lost it's not and it's about baby steps look in your routine what you're doing on a regular basis and make small changes that are feasible to to help you you know if you try to take too many big changes you're going to fail about that i mean it is you cannot change about life if we happen you know what i mean what people does situation what would you sit today well i think people and you're right i mean you stole my line life happens you can't change a life and things are going to come out of left field you're not going to see coming that you didn't think about today ok but if you let it get you down and you think about it that way you're always going to be on the bottom right it's your outlook it's your mental outlook how you look at things you know everybody's got peaks and valleys right everybody but when you're down it's your outlook in how you handle yourself when you're down there you know because you know you've got people you look at them right somebody is you know maybe hit a down part in their life but you might not even know it because they don't mentally show it because they have come to terms in their mind that they're going to look at a positive there's always somebody who has it worse there's always somebody that's looking at things worse than you keep trying to look at the positive there's positive in everything even in the most negative situation you can find that silver lining and i really do believe that and i believe that with my life that i live i have different things that go on in my life that people would say would get them who i think was important and what people need to realize is it starts young so as far as the youth go it's really about ride a bike get outside throw the ball small changes will make big results in your life later and with the parents and the audience that's watching at home small changes moderation is key just change something small in your life you will look back and be like wow want to change this made i can't believe that all i did was change his little thing and now look at how far i've come that's really what it's about small small changes equal huge big results do you have a website up people can reach y