some technical difficulties here this morning but that will not stop changes from happening good morning this is changes and of course we are spoken word programmer it's hard so we're not affected by the technical difficulties that are happening so good morning i'm susan gregory the coordinating producer and with me today in the studio is travis barrington good morning tr news there's lots of kiddies who have hurting from them they come in with promises of jobs and income for the town and it usually doesn't end well it's not something people want in their community and for good reason waste which i looked up a little bit this morning and you know it's all about individuals on this level or local governments or even higher levels of government and business is an industry adopting practices that are composting and natural cycles and i show ecosystem diagrams and i always explain to them that everything gets really used in the us and then i show a landfill and i talk about what happens with people cycles and they can see right away that it's not the same thing like there's a there's all these stuff that just sits there it doesn't go back in and that's what we need to be doing is getting all of our resources back into a cycle so it's local level to do that because it's not going to be possible for us overnight to change the way industry works but feeling that a lot of people feel like this is a problem that's just too big or they say they  choices and shopping as well but they had a ninety eight percent rate only two percent of the things they were removing from their household ended up in the carpets so the rest were in the recycling the rest were in the rest for maybe in their  general ok so i didn't hear the whole start of your phone call we were having a little bit of difficulty with the headphones here but i think i got the just of it with you saying incinerators in a lot of places like denmark a useful thing  with very toxic material because you're burning plastic you're burning paper you're burning so many other things and the other really interesting thing i learned being part of the committee is that it's really hard to burn when there's no paper for example you know and  they're rethinking their incinerators as well because if i understand you saying about certain natural products being fire starters but if we're looking at burning garbage there's not going to be that type of control of what's being incinerator it's just going to be a big catch all definitely agree with a lot of the points you brought up and we're actually going to be discussing a few more things in that vein about reusing clothing and ideas that we have is your voice and i will for events and opportunities where we can get more of  you know we really would like to focus on and i'm the first and i think from that conference what i saw there was a lot of individual communities coming up with solutions and opportunities for zero waste i remember there was the name but there's a lot of small communities in ireland italy and norway and sweden where they started with a more grassroots local organization which is what we're hoping to do here and getting a lot of results at that level rather than starting with the big outpaces yeah exactly and and we have a lot of i d s and yes and she brought a few things i remember we were talking about before coming on today with clothing reusing and no money i mean how many events remember there was some at the last meeting yeah well back back in brazil i'm from there's this one small town that has these exchange fairs where people can bring their things and exchange with other people without currency and you know we we would like over to the whatever you buy some dried figure or something you know at the bank it's pretty and i don't want to get to that you know your lecture for the day well joy thank you so much in this is what i'm talking but we need to get a form going you know what we you know in my community there's a lot of changes that are occurring and i think that that's what needs to be brought to light of the things that are occurring and in our community it starts actually from from ourselves and for more we're actually where we are with ourselves and i find the idea of getting very sick with hypnosis and all sorts of things that they're doing to themselves and here it starts from the sun from the ground out so what we do in our community is we have something called we have council out ways to intimacy and so we start working on ourselves and starting from being very vulnerable to getting huge work on ourselves and that's where it actually start and then after that you know we have decided to cut called one straw society and they come up with amazing things all the time such as edible garden jurors which actually are very beneficial the community can people get to know about their gardens and stuff and we do talk about how we can get things differently when it comes to weight and stuff like that and on this friday we're actually doing something along those lines things so i take things that people throw away or put in the third store i see on the side of the road and i create art and i create lots of beautiful jewelry and clothing and their one star society have been actually trying to set up some workshops around  young women and young girls for their self esteem and getting them to bring in all of their stuff that they would want to get rid of you know bag a bag of shoes and clothes and jewelry and things that they don't feel that they can do anything with anymore and i would work with not just building something new out of what out of the old things that they have but working on their self esteem as well because you can't these things looking at it from one direction it's really really deep rooted that there's a reason or so wasteful know what i'm doing is turning turning things that people don't find any use for like i'll take east indian bangle they come in if they're for all the time and i'm first nations and some sound from and you know so i'm taking something and you know originally we took from our environment and we utilized everything so now we just have to do it a different way  we're not taking directly from the environment anymore but so much stuff that could be used and i'm creating beautiful things out of it for jewelry out of these items and making dream catchers that are intricately made out of cable fencing and you know the intention of the medicine right and the fact is that when i'm putting that kind of work into people think that it's something completely brand new but it's actually made from things that people get rid of and i talked to a friend yesterday named laura walker and she works for one strong society and she talks to ken and she who is in charge of lot of these things and we are doing on friday within one night we came up with this friday we're going to have a whole bunch of people we have a creativity night and people can come in create stuff or make food or play music and what we do is we just we're going to we're going to have a giveaway where all the artists that come are going to put something in the center and it's going to be a giveaway so everybody will get something from artists and then we get fifteen minutes to lay out all our product and people come by from not little store that we make you know these are these are small approaches to zero waste but they actually on a whole they're really actually quite big because when people actually start getting their heads out of the screens and start being creative which  way that's the pathway back to where we need to take care of ourselves you know it's the way that we can actually bridge it and not what it's about right now is breaking and we really have to do that we're really at that point right now where it's essential we really have to get you know what together and you know and we're doing such such amazing things and i want to mention kids earlier they had technical difficulties for your radio station and i called in those quite upset because into a kind of kind of a different story you know and that's going to be probably a bridge is the topic with the other topic and it's a much to get into but the point why is it that i was really upset that know something so i did call and i do you want to put it out there to anyone that listen for three years station to completely support it because we support so much all this technology and you know from what i heard having old computers and having all the stuff i'm not a computer person but i certainly like this radio station and i had explained that we have amazing d j s around the coast and i'm putting out the call to d j dino and many others here larry to be able to play at maybe a or hereditary in my culture and i just really go out and serve and so i'm asking for everyone to step up and serve to serve what you know serve our highest good and i really absolutely believe in its radio station i enjoy every show amazing ideas because i'm not in that kind of world and i'm not disconnected i'm really very very involved in community and i feel like i've thirty nine years old and i have raised more kids than you could ever imagine and my friends are all grown up i have two that are one twenty five one's going to be twenty two today and i have a grandson already and i've done a launching pad for home affairs unit agreement after care i see how things work on every level i've done every level of care might be a grandparent and how i'm able to step back and see what actually needs to happen you know and that's the only way you can see is actually being completely part of it so there's there's something to be said about sitting looking at the e mail and actually doing it yet though you know my day consists of even like going to are you know the gumboot count in roberts creek which is the most amazing place i've heard just sitting there and having amazing conversations with people and making that change on on a local level because you can really only take care where you live you know and originally that's what first nations people did and they spilled their wealth over to their community and that's why we had houses so you know a lot of the stuff even even on the station and around the other program that was just on doesn't really explain a lot of that and you know we really wanted to change o village and therefore nobody had hoarding in taking for themselves and we wouldn't be having the issues we're having right now if that was the case so i really absolutely put that out there and night and my way is just to go out there and be of service and that's what we need to do we need to get out of being inside and go be a service and be outside again i don't see people out at the beach or very much anymore at the people very much anymore so i always like get outside you know how can you care about the way constructing new articles with old thing and they also have a self esteem building portion of that as there is no mirrors at the event and we're just encouraged to rely on feedback from people who are there in a very positive way oh wow i've never is for residential at the moment and what that means is if you're in a single family home unit you have the curbside pick up of green bin recycling and garbage but a lot of people you know it was a small community but we do have a few quite a few townhouses apartments that sort of thing and you know beared quirk those buildings aren't service the same way single families are and a lot of them only have garbage pickup or they have limited recycling and one of the projects  so just like your regular green bin and what we're hoping to do from that is get a sort of pamphlet in the guidebook created with the results of this pilot program that people in other apartments townhouses can take to the building manager and say we want this as that touches on just getting out in the community of being more conscious of your decisions and purchases and purchasing less and using less and finding new uses for all these other things and i think the common thread through all of it is just roles there's facilitating roles there's all kinds of things that can be done pretty much anything that interests you there's there's a role for it in zero waste it's not just all sort of recycling and looking at numbers on plastic packaging which think you so much that's been a great show today very highly wonderful thanks again to the kollars yeah that is our show tonight and again next week when librarians on the radio will have an action packed show on democracy in time for the federal election and on behalf of our production team thanks so much for joining us