the freedom from religion foundation on october twelfth one thousand nine hundred ninety two issued this proclamation whereas october twelfth marks the anniversary of the date on which  colony of massachusetts was the first of its kind requiring that evidence lost my place require that evidence and i did it in court be of zero bowl by the ordinary senses prisoner whereas the declaration forced the immediate terminations of the notorious salem witch trials since all the convictions invoked such quote evidence unquote or specters including quote angels and devils on the bow whereas twenty persons were condemned and cruelly executed nineteen hanged one pressed to death prior to governor of this declaration whereas governor phipps wrote that he stopped the proceedings quote because i saw many innocent persons might otherwise perish on quote including the fifty two people with pending cases of witchcraft all of whom were released within three months of his ruling whereas of the warships of human history surely one of the most seminal in terms of the elevation human than white men and the adoption of the scientific method that oct twelfth night sixteen ninety two whereas there have been many holidays for saints and superstition but never one commemorating reason rethought and state church separation we the people declare october twelfth freethought  you very much the invitation to talk to you talking puerility here i pass out a hand out that you could have i might share a little of my own background it might be relevant to myself i don't want to get too much into myself i want to talk about the influences of certain people bucky fuller particularly huge improvements in my life as it has them on and so forth there were finally i want to get down from starting to understanding things in a class and my grandmother my fraternity grandmother was the first woman ever to graduate from the university of michigan medical college in eight hundred eighty eight she broke the  last ceiling and we had a woman who stayed with us is the depression years thirty five years you press me a lot of people who are in bad shape wonderful woman who helped raise me like a second mother in the house she would do all the cooking and she was and also became a center for a great number of people through the samples so i was a very privileged background that i had in a certain sense and i just mentioned that because i was always interested in things in a large way i actually decided when finally getting the military draft out of the way and that sort of thing to go to university to study geography so i'm actually i guess in terms of nomenclature or something i would geograph and i think i was interested in geography because geography is something that you can be interested in a lot of eyes system to understanding and get away with it in terms of a world that is going academically just pell mell towards specialize ation of breaking everything down into its component parts rather than thinking system and i think i always wanted to do to do with something you can be economic geography or political geography critical geography you can get away with almost anything and still be interested in as i am everything i've made claim that they ought to have if you partment university of every thing because everything is interconnected as one system i love the idea of john lovelock as a james lovelock the guy on the idea of seeing the earth as an organic presence it's a little bit troubling to a lot of people with everything but what it is is  i ended up doing that and doing it and that's what i was thinking i was interested in i had printed by joe friendly want to see who produces television with me in the public access room happy to repeat the public access television multimedia production facility has just had their franchise renewed for a ten year period into the future so we have a financing system for independent leads production multimedia production of i would hope increasing the intellectually relevant content that can be done at no cost at all to the person that wants to do it and can now be distributed on the internet while worldwide that is going to be a source of a great deal of what would be curriculum in an autodidact big world that i think is emerging and i always sort of wanted that rather than the specialization but i did geography i did all the dissertation work two years how how intrepid or polish i was there as younger my wife and i at the time so to bolivia in a ten year old pontiac car without much money and all that sort of thing and had about one hundred flat tires where you had bought the whole tire out and pump it up by hand it went and did a year to happen bolivia study the i remember our indian culture which is a cultural heart it was four main things we'll get to the evolution narry pattern of social systems and so forth but it's very interesting we now know from understanding things that there were all africans homo sapiens species involved in africa and the people had to almost certainly and they had migrated out around the world and there was without jumping ahead too far there were four main places where they went through the process two hundred thousand years ago i think is the best guess or the best  christ at the time of the kaka that was very interesting to me is the geographer and one of the geographers i was and i was inspired by a site humboldt another wrote writers in geography it used to be a major curriculum thing in the old curriculum but we've gotten away from your major schools don't even allow to have such a department anymore because it's too comprehensive and they want specialisation because that's the trend that's one of the themes cultural where they developed through our civilization in in q one october and then three to you and i'm very interested in work i was down there for a year and i have really enjoyed is the i'm a proud people that evil morale us now is emerging has become the political leader of they've been treated shabbily as most indigenous peoples by the colonialization process ever since bizarro and so forth but now they're merging that gets into the modern who are trying to get a a comprehensive context and you want to get to that i want to get to the politico i have some of that in the the current moment but i get to the point now there is that some of the background but then that's when i came upon i came back to detroit where i was home after we were i mean it was my home still and on the television then there was all this the world had changed enormously been away two years and the world it changed it was the time of the beatles and the hair was down to the backside and you had to get people going and you had the beatles and there was this thing there was something blowing in the wind bobby dylan said it was picked up by a lot of people and i said what in the world is this all about and i did get in touch with some of the people of johnston player latest sinclair johnson player was a revolutionary that john lennon was trying to get out of jail so for all of that they had an artist's workshop column and i would go over there just trying to understand what the hell's going on you know and and everything and so i got interested in that but then more to the point perhaps now when i'm talking up or trying to talk about now was on a television in a public time i believe it was still black and white i'm not sure but i can i can remember a television set in the corner where there was no programming at all or the television set with the indian head test pattern that people would watch and it was hard but anywhere on the public television there were two for two people who came on probably on public television one was by mr paul and he blew my mind he was a comprehensive intellectual of higher order another one and the same week the same with marshall mcluhan marshall mcluhan was a very interesting reader of the arts he was a great scholar of james joyce and being able to translate some of the the things of that in terms of the effects of media and taking a media analysis he was brilliant and they blew my mind and i just got off thinking about things comprehensively and so that's the background ok i got off and so i get to that i got i handed out  paper with my background and i've done about three thousand seven hundred hour long interviews with many of our intellectuals and so forth that political and i think the multimedia presentation of  information very important for reforming the human consciousness which i think is going through a qualitative major moment of transport patients even in the evolution of our consciousness and universe and so at this moment i mentioned assertion that i agreed with and i have been coming to exact conclusion as a university professor for a number of years that this generation it's hard to get your mind around in a sense this generation of  the current generation is it is the defining generation after ten thousand generations if we say two hundred thousand years there would be twenty year generational since it began over the long haul this this is the defining generation in terms of the evolution not only of human is systems and so forth but our consciousness itself and that's the thing that i feel we're living in that kind of time which is a great privilege it's also a great trauma because ninety nine point nine percent of all the species that have ever existed have gone extinct we now have in our hands through the extension of consciousness through what is called uniquely so technology and tools have gotten to a point where we have had  sociological political economic evolution to the point where the advantage that was given to the various princes down through the ages that the artistic or other communities could give to the political leadership of some weapons system that gave them an advantage over the tribe in the other really against which they could then attack steal their grain become strong make their products strong it's all call reality it's still rule understanding now it's moving into patterns that are our extensions of intellectual understanding and extensions of our some of the dialectic might well be rather than differentiating ourselves from the creatures or from the enquirer we're differentiating ourselves from those extensions of ourselves the mystery mcluhan james joyce wrote about so well is those that are now being extended with great exponentially increasing that line is not going we're actually coming to that kind of a period and it's good to try to put it into some sort of comprehensive context that just for a moment in there will get onto some of the political stuff that mostly makes up all the news that we talk about  e string theory we just then had a we had the unified field theory and you know and that and quantum mechanics and so were the terms of physics and now we get to a point where we had an understanding of the things we have to wilkinsons over a telescope array that has given us a picture of the shock wave of the big bang thirteen point eight billion years ago only two hundred thousand years after a certain current that's a pretty good measure of being able to take the measure of things by human conscious they i'm sorry they didn't  with that sort of mind so most of the intellectual world they would have been able to get a picture of the big bang thirteen point eight billion years ago within a nano second of its occur it measure it signals a measure of our being able candidate for somebody who's put it better intellectually then buckminster fuller in the body of his work send me a link please i would really like to try and do that but i've tried to do with nest more in terms of buckminster fuller his thing about  an operating manual for spaceship earth and his reading of things is absolutely better than george better than joyce and joyce was great but anyway he used to cast about it seemed to put it yet a great sense of humor too we had a letter from his colleague thomas dunn who gave two to marcia marcia marcia that there's a major display of the black mountain work that they did that's in there our gallery currently in new york city we can make you aware of that but that in a way might mean he used to cast about and he would say what is the purpose you know one diversion mankind has had the ability to contemplate the larger issues like what's it all about alfie we've had that we're blessed or cursed with that ability of soft reflective consciousness and we have had to suffer for humanity james joyce in history is a nightmare from which i'm attempting to awaken the theme of today's talk is we may be on the verge of awakening from that nightmare of history injustice by and large and which continues and is re outdated institutions inherited from history but poor use to cast about from a position of the design science decade research of understanding the reality in a very large cont intellectually that was sixty five seventy five but he cast a vavi said what is their purpose that's something people are interested in we had to invent explanations for the larger issue of creation stories and so forth and all of that and we can understand where they have and i think we have to give some credence to those because they've been very influential in in in ethics and other kinds of things that matter toward a civilized order of the barbarism which we work but we have to have some pro magna people must have sat and thought what's it all about and they would say well it was the god of the masters or they would invent some sort of thing and this is happened largely i think that's probably what under for it we have the idea of our demise and so forth i'm like a crocodile or something else anyway that he cast about me said well he thought the work that there very well the mathematics is elegant i understand it is that they're very well maybe this universe we know thirteen point eight billion years ago which we've got the ability to take a photograph o within a nano second is saying is screaming something news going on and it is very likely that this universe is part of a parallel universe and they're connected by wormholes systems unpredicted by the sum of the parts there is something more than the sum of the parts of a let's say maximally gauge system that is a resonance in that indirect comedy's matter and universe and it might very well be that  we're coming to it so it is so the second law of thermodynamics is an anti an appropriate function the evolution of consciousness itself moves across entropy and brings increased pattern of conscious understanding to the process of which we are all a collective part and that might be the purpose of evolution which we now can understand how things came to be since the enlightenment and mister darwin and so forth we could have an explanation that is  thinking and is not based upon politically oriented creation stories that are going to get gravitating to human behavior in historical terms so we can have an understanding of that and that's what  s is important big time stuff and no it's still a synergistic universe and even as we get to a point where perhaps in our time we get to a point where there will be a residency into a comp where on the process of it was crazy and so what we're coming to the end of two hundred thousand years of the human experience we're coming to the end of that and what would that one thing that that would how would you measure how would you deal with something like that and in this time fuller and others did that that extension of consciousness that is the technology ok there are implications of all of that has reached the point let's say taken o dialectic one side we have the weapons of destruction that have evolved ever more lethal they finally reached according to the modeling they finally reached the point that it was absolutely right now out of our wits we're going to destroy most all of civilization by opinion from cuba and russia ok even at that there would have been as apparently that was sixty two but by the weapons systems by which political entities renee able to rule over their story and so forth became species lethal that is if they were to be unleashed do they have been throughout almost all of human history which is a nightmare it would mean apparently don't even have to go to nuclear winter but apparently it have the ability to destroy the entire homo sapiens species in the modeling was alive at the end of it i remember when that was recent it's just now it was recent we couldn't do that we were imposed to we were gestating in our ability to do to fill or deal with the evolutionary process of which we are a part so a qualitative new reality in terms of in terms of capability and you want to make a distinction between the reified institutions that makes up what's called reality reported in the news and in the the technology of our species lethal ok and then what on the positive side or if there is this is something on the positive side would be excellent students usually equally significant in the evolutionary sense to the fact that we now have finally at the end of a long running process made got the ability where we can stop the whole process what would be equally significance that would have political meaning and reality the way the news reports and every buckminster fuller more than anybody else in my humble opinion and that's what the they hand out that i give you is not about i've got some graphs if you want to now we're getting down to nevermind making we're getting now down to reality of it as a basic grounding for that and now we're getting down to the let's say what's reported in the news the reality of the moment the wall street occupation in the seventy five they took a survey of the trends in human capability to develop he had he had taken the idea of synergy behavior a system he had done to design science revolution outside of the political process and he it made up what they had made up a survey of our capability of humanity to provide a context where you would get a measurement haves and have nots we talk about haves and have nots in the world trouble cutting their stuff as haves and have not you get to a way of measuring that your deck to have a definition of it it's hard to get a definition of it but he came up with it and he said that we can see through this coming into this century there we get to a point the world war one world war two is going exponential they were reaching a point where we had reached a point where something on the order of twenty four percent in there they're figuring you can go check it out we're having this now is very hard to do because it's so fact to assume that there is not nearly enough for everybody in fact that's been the principal context of accepted notions a real politic and an economic thinking and so forth but he got that point he said we were heading in one thousand nine hundred eighty two he wrote this just as a result is that in his projection he wrote this and he said we had a twenty year period of imminent crisis this hundred fifty two to where we were going to go it got up to about thirty four forty eight thirty five thirty eight percent of the world population as world population not the united states not new york or anything like that the world population in terms of capability as the most important premises you can possibly imagine that has political meaning and it's never mentioned if you know it i'm just saying i have this talk i want to call attention to some major thinkers who give us some ways of looking at things like wall street and everything else that's going on in terms of the larger context the idea that we actually may have as a human species with our given capability actually transcended for the future have some political rhetoric that's the most important call qualitative transformation in the history of mankind a paradigm a paradigm a paradigm a paradigm shift that is never mentioned in his father's from this never brought up because everybody is all caught up in iraq is that the about politics and politics of the moment and so forth into it revolves around largely if you look at it it revolves around the private sector versus the public sector view of things  in terms of from the enlightenment in the evolution of human institutions and so forth and it's the private sector versus the public sector and how do we deal with it is intellectual if we're comprehensive intellectuals interested in these questions not just looking at soundbites on the nudes and looking at things the norm or is there a new context that could be introduced into the thinking what does that mean the kids the youth all over the world are going down to wall street trying to say we need something new we have to see thinks differently than the intellectuals have fallen down on the job my suggestion is that they haven't been thinking about things comprehensively like our leaving poets have asked us to do we're just talking all about politics and one of the questions is you for good or ill we have to deal with the political realities that have evolved and we've got down now to where we have a situation as to is it comes down finally it comes down to economics we have a lot of at my suggestion is that it is time for the intellectual community to have a serious discussion or thought or introducing of an idea or context of thought into the environment to be considered by one and all and it's not being introduced so it's frustrating that it's not so that's what i was trying to get across to there for whatever it's worth it will be in the multimedia but it is around the idea of economics ultimately private sector public sector and when you get to that i was you talking would leave breakfast like i said when you get down to that that comes down private sector private property government government activity and and i think that the for whatever it's worth the other graphic i have to put it out that i'm almost done so i'm sorry people heard or saw what i don't know why they're telling me to stop isn't i mean i i just seems to me that's the case i mean i just assume intellectuals are of what is called generally a progressive left wing you know but there are exceptions i think what is needed i private sector the private property principle that we have a system in the united states or in the world actually you've got a tiny plutocratic class that owns all the theory and so forth but the title of the book is a very interesting one to put before i would presume the majority of progressive minded people within their free thinking institution the title of the book is the capitalist manifesto i think its time is waiting for shakespeare says per the progressive it deals with the idea of rather than by the labor theory of value in distributing all buying power to the mass of the people through their jobs and it is there in a context where all the capital instruments are owned by a tiny plutocratic class we should democratize ownership of the capital instruments massively as a way of getting demand into the hands of the people to be able to clear the market pain said john maynard keynes who set up the whole system they were living under said that you will be compared with something in your maturity the children of a grandchildren nine hundred thirty year over there is hard to understand massive technologically induced on employment so one charter would be good for you to keep in your mind is there anything to  here this one point that you were here this is this chart true or not this is another one i put in the thing you consider if you will i'm not looking for a little thing here i'm looking for a big and so that's a little you know a technological instrument that's the direction it's it is leisure there's going to have to be coming and opening up on the goods of civilization art and all the other things that take a second place to creating jobs for everybody i mean you state is all one by a small coterie of people around the world in each political entity that has to be challenged by the progressive community and they're all caught up with saying how great it is to work on the estate owned by the people is rather like an attitude of of certain there was on a feudal estate and the lord owned all of that and that's a current thing rather than just singing how important it is to the work and to distribute income and buying power to the masses of the people that's virtually everybody through labor which is workers done it's always going to be there oh you need to have a different critique of it if we're not going to lead to a collapse of the world order which will lead to irrationality breaking loose which could lead to the one thing you really want to keep in mind as a responsible citizen is the unleashing of the un godly species lethal weapon systems that are in the american arsenal that's the major thought out of prostration because they don't have a system they can make and the kids out here are giving us a signal they want something new they don't want to talk about it give you a job or give you what ownership of capital the capital is all concentrated is getting more so and the left except that they accept the premise is perfectly all right for the capital before going away work is concentrated the way it had it's ridiculous you've got to have an alternative thing and this is the order ship five percent on all the asset you know what up with the homestead act replete united states and then it lay a lot it's still all the assets are owned by a tiny class and we just accept that we've got  challenge that you know we hoist capitalism on its own petard as mr shakespeare said our ownership of capital should be a major way in which income is going to be capitalised immense and access to credit have capitalised immense of the technology to producing wealth to everybody as a way of getting income freeing them from where he had slavery not asking them to be accepted within it and that has to be something that comes up within the progressive community in the interest of saving the world from destroying itself in my humble opinion best called out in the paper and those are the three graphs that i brought and that's and that's the context of what we're doing is going to be primarily do within what i call public access i think it's a multimedia is the way the thing is going to be done is very frustrating to watch the news and so forth but i think it's going to emerge i think it's going to emerge you know probably out of this question transcend scarcity is a possible when you get an ontological talk systems critical thinking view of the reality of the universe within the system i understand the physics of the universe and the whole larger issues which is har intellectual challenge of humanity and then secondly is there anything to be said for the fact that within the context of evolution itself which we now have a narrative for we're going to understand things without the creation stories the things we had to have coming killing each other over who gets a piece of bread to eat ready movie thinking about it we're going to be concerned with the goods of civilization which are the goods of art and the major features other than making goods and services that can be done we're going all over the five hundred thousand you're going to have to do it so you have to do is understand from their perspective but you can't allow them to say oh we're just going to create we're job creators in my humble opinion see that's the big labor theory of valu federal structure i kept little diffusion reinsurance corporation that would take the place of the swaps and derivatives that were done in the private sector and messed it up everywhere in the private sector partly because the left didn't criticize it the government would be we don't want to do away with the private sector we don't want to do away with the government say ok you want a mixed economy and you've got is the mix their private sector has to be the responsibility market you want to bring that over into the government that allows the affective dissemination of ownership to say things like housing the infrastructure all the things that are say and don't make it a big crack shoo away the whole thing became there's a crapshoot of people taking making a crapshoot in the private sector but a way can do this so if you want to bring that risk it's a little next to the federal reserve you have to re insuring a industry that does commercial insured and it's insurance against the various levels of risk in the economic order but it should be in the government that reassuring thing of the industry and it could be done on market principles but it would be the government is setting the context i with the economy is going to be ordered and you don't believe all the risk taking could be done by private sector n b s who are going to  make it into a crapshoot maker so air all the venture capital i mean the venture things are all going to be put in with the same thing like housing in the things that are secure then make it so that you could have a you're going to distribute demand capital ownership you can distribute public private sector capital asset ownership by people as a way of them getting money rather than they're working on the estate of the people with all the capital so able to live what you can see a picture of is people living comfortable lives with an income coming so that they can live and do what they want to do not what some economic model says they have to do or a slave like way to get money to feed the kids which is what we're expecting now through this labor theory of value saving their labor so important can you understand oh i'm sorry it's not a little bit yeah yes go ahead well maybe that thing going i'm not sure exactly what you need to do is get it politically relevant in my opinion in the united states political system i think it's a thing for the democrats to do to see it's a private property is great everything so you don't you know that because that's been in place for a long time and everything but we're coming to that now and one of the louis calif so is the one who was going to russell walling was behind you've got you've got but it was only to eat out was only for the corporate in place it's got to be much larger for the whole friggin a con the whole principle is being changed because the reality is being changed the major thing that gives advantage in the republicans and it's not you know it's not winning against that it's something you're going to host them include them on the thing because you're talking about spreading capital ownership to everybody as a way of distributing income so that the people will have income to do what they want to do like say paint or make art or make love or take care of their kids or do what they want rather than having to be a wage slave o system that doesn't need them increasing them and you don't want to encourage things are going to make labor make work in order for people to do things because there's a half percent gate out the profit margin that's not adequate to what the future  unique this is the water breaking this is we're coming to a vision of our coming into a new relationship in the universe we're transcending human time just organise evolution we're coming we're probably going to become if we make it economic security and even the goods of civilization in the hands of the masses of everybody so everybody is doing what they want to do rather than what they're being forced to do by all these ideas is not nearly enough that's got to be said sensitive t world history has been a hard struggle of my own system for two hundred thousand years and we've got all the resources were there when we came out of the cave it's change it's change and we're coming to an evolution moves ninety nine percent or ninety and point nine percent of all species have gone extinct we're on the verge of being able to our own hand to go extinct in the evolutionary process and moving about and trying to cope with function in universe it's a crucial i think it's either annihilated or eliminated i think that's where it's heading if we are what do we do it we're going to put in drones all over the it's like some terrible dystopian fortune and all they talk about is they don't they don't have a v the kids want a vision of qualitative new they're they're forcing it they're forcing it back god i'm glad they've got that thing going because they're more in touch with the we need something to relates to the future rather than reifies the past we have to make a transformation and it is it's a really crucial time because there's never been a time like this we couldn't have done at nine hundred thirty we couldn't have done it nine hundred seventy we couldn't have done it any  relationship between everything so i'm looking at everything so i don't know and most of the kind the intellectual community has been co opted by spear is divide and conquer the good great pirates who run specialization the term comes trippingly off the trunk jack of all trades master of none no sense thinking about everything no sense thinking system will thing systems people run the world and what will do is create great mr ford used to say that he said they created graduate schools as a conscious effort to get the best minds coming not worried about the dollars but the best minds coming up so specialized out on something i've economics and politics it's all interrelated now if you're doing that everybody's getting their identity from the thing they know a lot about special interest co ops it makes innocuous the electoral community they're not they're not doing their job evolution i'm sorry yeah you're going to need we're always we're going to have to enter history we can't we're not going to just go by history and all the ins and all of our architectures out of date all of our thinking at practically every institution we have there all this together is out of date with what meat cheese that it could have been somebody else the future influences the present as much as the past we're in thrall to the past has always happened and we're going to anger to history yes but we need to have a pattern that relates to the punctuated equilibrium the way the new emerging so we're going to start incorporating links between all of these different things and that's called spread that's called comprehensive that's what mr fuller was that's what i try to be but i don't know and so everybody that training's to has a script to the old systems is out of date because it doesn't work and the visionaries are considered crazy and the people in the middle crazy look at they did to galil seventy years out there we will finally get to the point where it will be some of these things i'm talking about here will become relevant in terms of evolution developing in the old way revival of the city i'm saying to him on the think we ain't got that long i guess the phrase on stands for that's going to beginning of the universe for everything began the year five thousand seven hundred seventy two that's the creation story yes for most every one of our poorer you know i mean i'm sorry i don't mean to be a but i think we have to respect the spiritual traditions and everything because by god people have lived in such a dire straits and they had to have some sort of understanding of dealing with this ok block of consciousness that's been what's it about they had to have something even so we've known that they the university down at long beach with mr reagan up in sacramento and that vietnam war with napalm it burnt to the bone four million people killed there was a whole anyway i was there and they used to come into the class and i got a friend of mine i believe in public access in terms of multimedia george stone is the godfather of that he's a wonderful man ninety two years old he's been doing it forever great filmmaker and he complained we did a program we brought it up it's gotten worse and in they say mr stone what do i have to do to get an eighty in your class i have to get my transcript to get into harvard business school so i can make some money and that's our director over directed what do i have to do in order to get what you're doing that's wrong where they should be doing is pursuing knowledge for the joy of now right by the other guy daft if they're really interested they're not free to do that because the economic system is so insulated and now they come over dead universities are going to close down maybe it's good if they do there's just all co opted by specialization but the thing is i used to do what i did i got in trouble for it because every day when i started to new new semester in september they would come into the class and i said far as i'm concerned you're always give everybody give everybody a day right now the girl a ride will be here every day and i will come every day if you want to come i want to get rid of the authorit because you know and i don't want him anyway but they would do that and then my class got killed at the smartest people in canada and had nothing to do with the institutional structure you see and we made a lot of trouble we where you can go and you can learn all kinds of great stuff you don't have to listen some guy ego tripping i want to aspect of one aspect of what aspect of a disability which is what they do in the name of a scholarship and then you're going to get tenure it's not going to work started doing public access is the longest running series in the country on public access that's free you can go there and you don't have to be doing anything for money a mention that you can do something where you don't have to get a grant you don't have to be concerned with money they if this thing is correct this is terrible if this is correct labor is going to the vanishing point in terms of goods and services and the economy world economy it's not the laborers import you know the guy on the line in the ago and nine hundred seventy that's the point there's a new thing and that's what the kids are picking up on and it is so frustrating that go into one of the sub parts of what the previous going on when it