know what was that turning point ok yeah ok well my turning point really was something i think that many many of our view was probably will identify with i call myself a product of the great recession so back in two thousand and nine i was part of that whole group of people who suddenly found themselves downsize i had worked for my previous company for twenty seven years and you know i was told to call in on and you tease me about it on january seventh two thousand and nine to find out whether or not i had a job and as a result of that call i found out that my position  i had the option at that point of staying within the company maybe taking a step down i was a hospital district sales manager and pharmaceutical industry or taking my package and getting bridge to retirement so  i would say after a couple of days of thinking in compton plaiting down for more you get to that point when you actually called at war and was told that you no longer had a position how how  was your feeling what were you going through like what was in your sock a you know what i immediately started to say go on to going to go into my computer say oh my god i don't have a resume because my intention was at that moment to just take another position inside you know my daughter she was in her last semester of college so that's what went through my head all right you know she's still in college i still need an income but a couple of days later actually my husband and i were at our doctor's appointment for our annual checkup and i remember turning to him and saying are you is it bad to say you're glad it's over and the reason i did that was said that was because within those short few days i really had an opportunity to like stop and think what was life like you know and i still want to continue in that and you know it's kind of scary because we've had friends in the past who were downsized and they stayed but ultimately later on just to find out they didn't have a job so i said to him you know what i think i'm going to take the chance i'm going to step out on faith because i knew that those last few years at work had really been stressful the industry was changing a lot i found that i was dreading more so going to work than truly enjoying it i truly enjoy the team that i manage i mean that was probably my bright spot but i gave myself somehow in those moments right chance to figure out what how do i really feel what did i really feel when i was there so so if you had to summarize those first few days of what you were going through like what were some of those deeper feelings i did you feel lost did you feel you know frustrated and no wade what were some of those things because i think a lot of our viewers would have a little comfort to know they are not the only one and that you a show honestly i never felt anger i really i never felt why me you know i do remember when i got the call my next stupid comment which i'd say now is a stupid comment to my manager was you mean all the years i've put in and you know all i've done mean absolutely nothing right but i think that's natural for people  never felt angry and i think i never felt angry was because deep down inside i knew i was not no longer happy there i was just buying my time because in seven years i was going to retire that was my plan to hang in there for the ride because i'm going to retire but i will say after i made that decision to leave i was totally cool with i had no idea what i was going to die and i felt tremendously  that point i made this decision what are you going to do and i felt lost because you know you have a routine correct thoughtless of the weather you enjoy or whatever you have this routine in the morning you get up you do certain things you go to work you come home right and there was an write natural right there was no longer routine do you feel that during that time where you felt lost that you wanted to be alone or did you want to be you know with with close people that you can actually talk about it or you weren't really ready to talk about it is the i think i was not ready to talk about it because i did not know what i wanted to do ok and i'll say and i say that because what i immediately did was because of my job to give us a placement service i naturally did that already i just automatically did the things that are logical right i did the placement i was going through you know looking for another job hopefully back in pharmaceuticals even though deep down inside i didn't want to do that i wanted to write it was a logical thing to do and i don't think i really wanted to talk about it because in turn i was doing something outwardly but internally it was a huge conflict so much so and i think i told you the story that one point my husband said to me i told you when this happened you need to go away and figure out what you want to do and he said you know i'm tartu walking around the house and you know not knowing what to write you because you days when you got the message and you know you're going through a lot of different emotions and then really taking a little bit of time away for yourself so this is like next step right tak pushed me to that next step to take time was because i actually i had an offer to interview ok but when i was talking to the gentleman about the position as he was telling me about the position my stomach crane's oh i had a really strong visceral i guess reaction to it and because i knew i was doing something i did not want to do again to go back into apparatus right back ali so i took that time off and what was strange  went away i treated myself to a spa that i kind of always wanted to go to but i clearly remember on that drive up something said to me you need to say out loud what you want well i couldn't say what i wanted because i didn't know what i wanted to write the only thing i could say was i don't want to go back and as soon as i said that out loud it was like a ton of weight around had been lifted off me last i finally gave my perspired so permission to acknowledge out loud what i didn't want to do writing though i didn't know at the time moving for what it was that i was going to do or you starting to journal at this point or now i know i didn't start until i actually went away and my last day at the spa had gone into the gift shop and it was this beautiful journal book and i purchased that and that's when i started to to journal because i took a book with me someone what i think she's she and that was really the catalyst that started me journaling because it was things in there she talked about you know we were where eagles we were meant to store we were meant for adventure for things not eyes be the brain and all the questions that i started ask about where i want to go and what is out there for me i've found books that kind of i answered those questions so that became part of what i journal right so so quickly let us know myself to just sit and just for the first time probably just the stress and just really a lot of time just stare into space and kind of just think about past things moving you my last day there there was a lady that she asked if she could have breakfast with me and we started talking and she said to me you know we were telling our stories we're right here so i told my little story i kind of came to figure out what i wanted to do moving forward and she said to me what did you decide and i told her well i've decided i'm not going back into the end history i don't know what i want to do but i'm decide i want to step out on stage and find out what it truly supposed to do because i believe we all have a plan and she looked at me and she said you have chosen wisely grasshopper yeah that is really cool that it actually that has i've carried that forward and some of the programs that i've done but then after that coming back home i told my husband he said ok great now just figure out what you want to do right so the next part of the process was really sort of trying to find test different thing right right given the mess so i knew what i know and it's been that i new skills and talents and so forth that i had from my corporate environment i had over when i combined my previous position approach and before that when i worked for another pharmaceutical industry i had thirty years in pharmaceutical sales and marketing more surprised areas so that i knew right so what i did from that point on i had an opportunity to work with some of my husband's clients and taking that those little skills are in the right the amazing thing was i started doing what i knew right and then when things came up that i really did not know i was step and i was still standing right i take it out is right and when i wasn't sure someone or something or ask can i and that's an important point for us all to remember is that sometimes we don't know what that next step is but once we're willing to take some steps exactly the universe and god and everybody tries to help you to figure out what that's not at all and start out with what you do know like i knew certain skills that i did have right  but i would also say i during that time when i was working i allowed myself even through being stressed out and everything to find something that i love doing which is how i met you or i and then ultimately that even came into play later on as something i later on enjoying project we've done together so so tell us a little bit about how how did the idea of life two point zero how  job you were always certain how are you doing how are you managing or they would say to me i'm going to be downsized i know it's going to happen to me i need to talk to you or i'm thinking about retiring what am i going to do so really that got me to start thinking that maybe there was a message or something right that you can help by that was all right this journey had another part to it so i ended up going to california to take a co developing seminars and what was funny was at that point i didn't really have my message right kind of new when i was thinking to do but when i left there i had that message it became clear with yeah it was so clear it was different from what i imagined it was going to be right but it was crystal clear so so wonderful things that we want to you know let you guys listening know that it is ok if you don't have to have one hundred percent from what i am magic but i do find that the things that i that are joyal to me i enjoy doing even things that i did not fully understand skills and talents that i had they've all kind of meshed together into this as a manager i love training and developing my ride so to have the opportunity to do under the live two point zero program seminars and webinars right to right that just all falls into place ride right so so tell us about the different areas that the life two point i said address for our community right so what i wanted to do was it's really geared towards professional baby boomer women because that's right who i am and what i know but it's really saying to to us to women to all of those who are actually go have gone through this are looking to figure out what do i do in the second part of life your chief mints are not over it's a continuation and start to look at all the things that maybe you put on the shelf those dreams those things are a lot about so it's really trying to get people back in tune with their passions their talents and skills and enjoy so through that we have several programs we have a full day a lot of people don't take the time or never had the time right to really dig that deep and to really understand that it is ok i don't have to be defined by right manager a vice president whatever  i am me right so right and that's the part that is so amazing when i do the seminars and workshops is people are still so stuck on what they then i don't know why i write and i think it's because of are so excited success is like what you did to find out who you are what you did on your job that it's sometimes hard for people to say ok let me step away from that let me find out who i am again any of us so as as a parent or or spouse or whatever and i try to really encourage people to take the time to be so was for a few minutes right to sit to really like and it's not i don't feel it's being selfish i feel it's like putting on your own oxygen mask  you have to take care of you first and you have to know what's going to make you happy that this is this is you know the next part of your life which really try to make it design it so that you have control over right right and that's the main message is really to find out what people love to do and how can they either do it on a voluntary basis if that's what they want to die or you know monetize it right and how to reinvent themselves and i think that you know because i keep stressing passion purpose because we have three little words and passion purpose possibilities because i truly believe that whatever our purposes that purpose is always going to be a little bit about the different areas for the i know we have a key line right right so areas are going to come up on the side so yeah those are going to be on the slide now so just wanted to talk a little bit about the areas that we try to cover on the show our career work learning voluntary right because career is not there a lot of people who don't want to go back to work or act so they should think of maybe going going back to school or volunteer and that's kind of that fits into th first before we start i have to say that you and i are part of this together because you wanted things that we do talk about in the workshop is having a support system those people that are your biggest cheerleaders right let let people know that we're in this together ok and money got a little bit about that because that's really yeah yeah you know and because you know so many people when i think about like to point on and finances we plan so much about we tire men and trying to have that money available or time but money is i like people to think about what do you want to do in this part of your life and then financially how are you going to do it so there's that mean that you have to budget a little bit more or you have to tweak your budget because the kid eighty areas that we focus are really are a key here is that we say are areas for living life to the fullest and little so you kind of have to have all of these areas right and downwards so money still is a big part and i think for us like to point out of the money we do have how do we make that money last harat dry and on some other shows we will have people that will help us to figure out how to make that money go a little further right right how to be conscious of how will i will use it and then we have the health health physical environment but it's it's your air your personal spaces your rabbi so right so those are all the areas that we will cover on the show a different times talking about different things and really trying to glasses but the first thing i want people to understand that like to point out as i said it's not the end of a cheeseman or your dreams it's really now taking it to the second level all the things that you have put on that you said i can't get to an art can do this because of whatever this is time now to do and in life point it's also about doing things afraid and i tell you harry things that i've done that i'm like ok i don't know how to do this or what but i just force myself  to just do it and it's ok it's ok that you know that because that's how we are never you know an expert in every field and the first time you do something it is a little scared and sometimes the doing right right then it's about as i said having that support oh absolutely so the brain is one of my support systems and i have a couple other dear friends and what we do is we have a ladies night out oh that's  awful that we come together whatever issues or whatever we're going to run under the table and the nice part about that is we give each other like a two second pity party and yeah ok let's go to the how to how do you how do we get beyond this but but before you go on to the next point is the support system them sometimes that support system is not your immediate family that so talk a little bit about that or not because norm is i think what comes to mind i remember when my husband he left corporate and he started his business and people would say that he find a job yet what i knew that he wanted to start a business isn't right th times people aren't on the same way with and a lot of times unfortunately a lot of their fears and negativity come into play and that you don't run but i mean just know that they're not trying to be mean to you or anything like that they're just trying to look out for your best interest but that is all they know remember you're the person that has the dream you're the person and know what that dream supposed to look like and if you were not the person to execute that dream you would not have been given that dream exactly so you have to find other people that believe in you and believe in your injury are well and know that you know i understand that your value and sometimes traits in you that you don't see in yourself so i know you have pushed me many times and i'm like me along but you push me i let my husband has pushed me other people have and when they when they come at you when it's not maybe what you want to hear you know that they're coming at you with theirs and correct to rival success right right and then there was one other thing letting your passion reflecting the importance of moving trying right finding what you're for and that's i think the heart of what we try to do in life two point zero is identify what is what is a true passion about what are those skills and talents that you truly love doing and then passion and purpose date men and it's on the screen at the moment but since neither one of us i'll let you talk generally yeah well you know what i did is you know we all have you know we plan and we together for you and my passion of purpose statement which you and i both can't read my point basically just talks about my values it talks about those things that i enjoy doing my gifts my talents which i think is the gift of encouraging and inspiring people right of empathy and then it also talks about the fact that i value my family i value empathy i i'm passionate about helping people that are less fortunate or i but i also talk about the fact that my my journey has kind of taken me to the point where i realize that i no longer want to follow straight road follow the cricket turns and cricket grows because in that process of going through the cricket cook at roll it helps me to understand a little bit better more who i am so my job is to follow the cricket rather than the running the straight path and then because i took and what we also do is we kind of put together a lot of things that you enjoy doing and i find that one of my passions was was travelling in education and i thought you know what that comes in a sense that i want i want to be a student of the earth right we're all right to know and learn about all but the beauty and that exists in this place called earth so it kind of is a full  circle statement of who i am and where i want to go also thank you thank you so much and far you know shedding some light on how this all came about and some of the points that we cover in the show and