from los angeles california here is that which is with john roger that which is as presented by and as i am the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to awakening the spiritual heart within each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual advisor of m s the founder and president of the institute for individual and world peace and other organizations for the purpose of improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and he has been teaching and conducting seminars for many years the seminars and titled what is a psychic vampire but after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about the movement lot of people in the world may have greater freedom than you do in lot of senses of the word because you know the law of spirit more and you know the spirit of spirit and you've been studying you know the process of living of being involved in this day to day activity so you've had a lot of exposure to annul a lot of connection to this energy we call god or spirit and when you start getting those types of exposures and energies you can't go on in the same type of attitude you had before that and the same type of habit patterns and the same type of whining and complaining and people think well i'm example because of this or that doesn't really apply to me because and then instead of working toward her common adversity really striving in terms of like that in durance you know outlasting the habit until it exhausts itself we fall back into our patterns of behavior and that could be terms of eating you're thinking you're sleeping working or not working and we fall into this and then when things start going really badly for us we complain against the spirit and that's been a real hard for me to understand that you say i want to travel the high country you know i want to know this i want to get into the soul realm and you know make token efforts token effort is to work in a group consciousness that doesn't do it either because there are all sorts of groups there working a group consciousness and there hasn't done it there's all sorts of people living together in a lot of places that hasn't done it and there's like a token support of somebody else of the having a difficulty and just supporting somebody doesn't give in to the higher realms and then it's almost like token spiritual exercise well i did  today and so therefore i am not exempt from anything else that happens all day long and those are really for you know pretty bad patterns of thinking it is quite true that whenever we enter onto the path of upliftment we enter into a path of adversity and often the adversity will be worse than ever was before step upon the spiritual path but we look at it as and adversity and collett that in terms of we're not getting the things we think we deserve the things we know we want and nobody's making a big to notice the superior consciousness that we carry and so we go through the nobody loves me and i'm separated and i'm and that's how pity it isn't well was me in and i'm not getting all the sex i need and i'm not getting the money i need and we through that whole catastrophic approach to life and yet a greater disaster would be to give you everything you want it just really be a disaster because surely through and we see people going around here doom and gloom doom and gloom doom and gloom with thinking what on earth have you got inside of you that is so adverse that all you do is cry and doom and gloom what is that makes you so special that you're being separated to being picked on your name is a job the devil can't get a hold of you and it's like well i go do this that doesn't work and i do this that doesn't work and i'm going to do that it didn't work most like why did you go do all of those things why it's like well i wanted to i i want people to love me and to respect and to worship me and and and to hold the holy sacrament over my picture well maybe they don't but they sure seem to give that attitude or they want to give the attitude i really know what's going on and that's why i feel so bad and that is just asinine approach those people are liars they just detestable light years they don't know what's going on it's true they're going through something there's no question about that but what is it that they're going through if it's not their own mechanistic thinking process or the habitual emotional throwing up and yet they profess knowledge of spirit and seem to have an insight full consciousness into what's going on with other people and yet they can't handle themselves they have this tremendous difficulty digesting food eating the right type of foods and before you know they are addicted addicted as though on some hard masquerading then as some form of spirituality movement of spiritual awareness because it's a movement has to have a few weirdos maybe quite a few maybe they're all weird i look around you people who live here and believe it or not and i hear what you say often to each other might surprise you and i catastrophe take a look at your life in truth is not more than it has ever been in truth the potential the before was always hanging out there someplace over the mountain is now on this side of the mountain and you're actually enjoying the very potential is your way on up to some goal but the goal should never be set outside of you see that's part of the fallacy we have well i didn't get the car like what are you doing inside yourself well i would die because i didn't get the car like that's a terrible thing to die inside because you do get something out there when i feel so badly about it but i i tell you what we're going to do we're going to break your nose and cut off your ears and we're going to cripple your feet so that from now on when you walk like you do and talk like you do and look like you do they'll be a good reason for it you are asked to god have a catastrophe so the from now on people won't have to say what are you going to they can see it it's like with  face like that no wonder you feel bad with the walk like that no wonder you feel bad you have a right to feel bad but people say well we don't have enough money we don't have enough cars we don't have enough clothing we don't have enough sex we don't have enough of enough and there's never going to be enough there will never be enough this world is designed that it has infinite resources now people say well what about oil well i'm afraid they're going to find out the oil did not come from petrified animals who died millions of years ago the earth is constantly producing oil all the time and i think they're going to really be surprises making deposits of oil where there were none before the world has infinite supply there's a logo of the planet who is in control of this planet who supply an infinite supply the psychic losses when there's a demand there is a supply if you demand agony is supplied to you you understand this some of you go around practicing big chief rain in the face then it's always a bad hard time and then you're saying i am not happy everybody knows that look at you it's like i'd like to be happy or what you do in order to be happy well i don't know maybe should read a book on what you do to be happy maybe some we should write a book of what to do until the happiness appears nobody believe this nobody is going to bring it to you nobody has ever found people bring you happiness have you ever found somehow it just seems to appear inside of you somehow you give up your separation your fighting your animosity as to swimming against the current you get in and go with the current and you say my what a great day that swim was so good i don't really feel like i've been swimming however because i'm not exhausted it's like well maybe to day you did some things correctly and most the problem you people have  total is stinking thinking if you were able to carry on all the conversations with everybody verbally that you do in your mind and yet see we weep we masquerade the great spirituality and we're always going to jump in with our opinion but our opinion is authoritative and  lot of people when i'm talking to they don't jump in with their opinion i just look at them and some i've even said i don't recall inviting you into this conversation but they want to be known and they're going to be no negative if they're not known positive they're going to be known that's not a compliment you see the trend of what we do we talk so much in our head the psych scatter and then since we're losing and we know we're losing my god there are ample proofs of demonstration people come up to and they say do you bad you say no you say you look so down i'm down it's like who was so meritorious about being down somebody tell me what is the metal that we get for being down that we want to stay there is there one is that you want people to notice you and have pity for you you know get a sign of wear on your head make it too little peek the says have pity a pitiful creature write it on my forehead so everybody will know and have pity people don't have pity who do you people gravitate towards most of the time you gravitate towards people who are doom and gloom and down the mouth and always this and always that or do you sort of like find the one who's like up and there's like a welcome feeling to be around them to be seen with them you find yourself like going where music's plain lively where people are laughing or do you go sit in the corner to ashes all over your head and it's a terrible day don't we see this there's anybody know the value of that i have never seen a i'm not saying i haven't done it this is no holier than thou pro church i just don't do it i could be very easy for me to say my god have pity on we can we can all play that game that knife cuts both ways and some of us are so sensitive to the vibrations in the room that we put a shill go around us to keep out those vibrations but that cuts both ways it's also a wall that imprisoned jew from communication so nobody touches you and reaches into you is because you shoe is a very effective shield so you make it a point to walk by people here comes all gloom of the mouth so you don't want to talk to read things so you try not to see them and you walk by then they turn around and say how come you don't like we how come they're ignoring me how come they snub me my god i do it twice if you give me a chance i do anything to get away from you anything i don't want to talk to you you're on notice don't talk to me like will talk if i'm happy yeah but there's not to much chance about that never happy is there any reason  here to be happy probably not so why be happy it's easier it is easier to live this planet being happy than it is live here being gloomy and down for one reason you're going to produce illness in your body and then you go see why me i'm spiritual you demanded of the illness and the psychic supplied it and it will do it and you hear people spiritual people getting sick it's like why do they get sick if there's a spiritual maybe they're not spiritual maybe you see them one hour every sunday and they're up there smiling and you find out i've gone to people who've written books you think boy i'd like to meet that person my god that's a great great book of course then you think it follows there must be something very great in that person to have written that book that's not true with a long of sweating enough plagiarism you can write any type of book that can be good and i went to visit written books and i i was in the door too long till the bloodshot eyes and stomach was upset it was like oh i played the dummy i walked into here without running my protection gee they were spiritual vulnerable was i well i do lust around protection already but it's like close in a barn door after horses run away or you know giving medicine to a dead horse it's just too late so why do you try to salvage what you've got and in the moment of that type of adversity to be happy is a yeoman's job but it strengthens me to overcome that frequency that was just washing me out like i would have given anything to have passed out like oh just pass out eighty years away from here and i couldn't do it so i was like well why don't i do this like who do these teachings work it's like well we're going to see pretty fast when all it was used for was to strengthen me if we can truly and i use the word can because you probably won't you could but you won't if you could look at all the situations that come your way as another stepping stone a nother thing to strengthen you something else to make you so strong you can't fall no matter what comes your way is like thank you lord my god that's the next thing i'm going to use to strengthen myself i'm going to leave the position i'm in because that position does not see the face of god i'm just going to have to give it up and those are by far easier words to say than does the process to do because we have a basic fundamental process inside of us  says i don't know what i'll get but i know what i've got as bad as it is and how did you get to that point it's like well i took a chance one day i just ran away from home and i said anything can be better than this it might very well be then that you haven't come up to that point where it's bad for you where you're sick of being sick where you have changed like anything can be as good as this nothing can be as bad at that point you may have the nerve or the courage to change i admire people a backhanded sort of way who can stay in the same rut year after year after year after year because they are fighting and struggling the very process of existence they're going to maintain twenty one when they're forty and there's nothing quite so ridiculous to my point of view as a fat old lady wearing short dresses dressed like a bobby soxer and comb her hair and trying to dress like that every look sam says my god grow up i think what we're really saying is mature come to the present does that mean you have to act old you don't have to act anything you don't have to dramatize your existence all you have to do is breathe in breathe out just loving consciousness of that person is present do i have to do anything with this you see part of the fallacy is we say well i want to travel i want to see god what is there i can do to do this we say would you mind doing the dishes and they w so would you mind taking out the garbage and they won't do it and the same thing i can do to help is like yeah get away from the dishes and stay away from the garbage you won't do it and it's got to go so they find their jobs being isolated isolated isolated until they are separated then they say why are you doing this to me it's like you have earned the right to do this you have earned the right and you're falling people who are close with me have to earn the right to work the next day because they work today doesn't mean you know automatically do you get to work tomorrow you may be around but you will get to work and i have had people on my staff who come to work with me and i say what i do as i want to sit down relax and have a hard life they get so tired of not being able to wash their own dish they get so tired of being waited on hand and foot they get so extremely tired of not being able hang up their own clothes somebody else hangs them up for them drives the car for them wash their clothes for me put them away for them get their food for them until they finally say what can i do to help out we say how bad you really want to help you say well i'll do anything wash the dishes and take out the garbage and they break their back to doing this in my god i've never enjoyed it so much as washing dishes and taking out the garbage thank god you've let me become one of the group so just that moment you have to earn the right to do another one and they finally find out that they must truly give into the group to be of service truly give but see all these fallacies when do i get mine and we have those vampires their psyche vampires who just live off the energy the group won't put anything into the group and the group knows who they are intuitively because they do not have a radiant vibrant smile they do not have the glow of love in their face and their eyes have doom and gloom and they just keep view so when they come around you're saying hey i don't like your vibes when you're around you walk out i feel like i've been run through a knot hole and i don't i don't want to be around you then they will feel more shut move course the answer is quite obvious who also put up with me who else is going to allow me to do this in my city i gotta give enough as it is no you've only given enough when you feel like you haven't given you understand that it's like well i washed dishes today i should have a dome again it's like well you ate food today shouldn't have to eat food again either to say what that's right ridiculous it's all the same ridiculous thing it's all on the planet it's all here so then we want to take sides with each other get somebody else it's a fallacy you're taking sides against the traveler because the traveler resides in each one more so in some of you here than in others why because of that serving giving loving consciousness not for the group approval not that you do right so people like you that's nonsense also you do right because that's the right thing to do even if you want to do wrong those people are crashing right through the veil into spirit into the soul they're probably going to keep right on going into the heart of god because they're moving that way and it isn't a path where and you're going to save everyone a husband may make a wife might not or the other way around or a child may make it the parents won't and you've been raised in the community these are just things that do happen it's individualistic in terms of consciousness inside of ourselves not as force but as wisdom with differences like this is dirty it's got to be cleaned doesn't matter which arm of god god uses my arms or their arms it's going to be cleaned and you clean it but we enter into the fallacy of separateness and you need us i read the article the movement newspaper says god did make an ordinary person every person is unique which makes everybody ordinary so we say we're all unique equally ordinary and i look at us as probably uniquely ordinary i don't see a thing greater in terms of personality in terms of structure in terms of finances than anybody else i do find a uniqueness in here in the movement i see people come in during seminars there  is unique this you can tell those who are in the movement of spiritual awareness and those who are in the seminar and they may not be in the movement of spiritual and awareness though they're in that type of a seminar they have a look  have something in there they have a certain feeling response when you look at them you say inside of you god i love you and you have to do a thing with that you see we start to feel this flow of energy we start to feel joyfulness and then it's what do i do with that i don't know what to do with that i don't know what to do with that i don't know what to do with that it's like you don't do anything with that but you do stop doing what you're doing attempting to do that stop exerting and frustrating yourself people get very blissful you know and it almost discombobulate can i give to somebody now you can't do anything with it and what's its value you parry don't have bliss you would ask a question like that i mean its value is it itself that feeling that just ricochets all over on the but there is this this movement of consciousness inside of you and you do have a sense of of joy you may see was there anything i do yes you can smile you can be happy i had a person visiting with me quite some time ago and we're going to do initiation and person just had one these life where everything was kaka they used a different word they said to me and i just looked at him i said well you know you don't have to put up with that and i said it's easy for you to say that you're free and i said and that's why i say it direction they said well if i could just feel good just for once just feel good this life was so boring so dull the first year i was in the movement gee it was really exciting and it was really glorious and then it was really fun and made a lot of wonderful beautiful people and i found a lot of it just phony missile is pretty good i don't suppose it took much detective work and of course their response is why i said way i had do is look in the mirror and i had i'm just so jumpy i thought i could just go like that towards them and they would just go home i said well no how's life they said well this is really exciting i said if i could do that would i be free and i said yeah but you have to start out they said i says we got to think in your mind what the look on their face to be like when you jumped on thi said well i'm happy now i said i was ready to do the initiation now i had do was to solve them in terms of a loving consciousness to move them we can all of us ourself by confronting the dilemma of our disposition we can start thinking happy we can get an image of happy and we can hold on to that image of happy and we can start walking around a pretty soon it's happy for a few days i've been pretty ill and then i had said i would do this and i was thinking boy if i get anything to get out of that anything to get out individual who's bringing joy to the party do and their body i met this is my god you're so up in your energy so bright and vital and you look so happy when i am but they said were you twenty minutes god said no i was just maintaining status quo but i wasn't unhappy i wasn't going to go ahead manifest that because jeanne there's enough of that around who needs to add more to that we come down here and people say oh you look so nice she looks healthy i said if we don't get this seminar going before too long i'm going to go home go to bed i'm tired of people look at me nana think we don't look tired you don't have to look tired to be tired you don't have to look rich to be rich to be nice though if that worked it doesn't we can overcome any circumstance that presents itself to us at any time but we won't and we don't and then we blame people or other people for our dilemma and it's ours how can we blame them with any kind of ration now and make hold we can't so then we have to fire them to make sure that we stick is like putting the tell on the donkey but just doesn't seem to work it's a game and we come to the conclusions in ourselves over and over and over the for going to be happy we must be happy i was talking to some people who are going into business and they said well in this type of business we don't expect to make money for maybe a year too my point of yours i hope you've got a lot of reserve it's like well not too much too much reserve it's like well with the type of philosophy you've got i don't want to be in business with you i wouldn't go to business with you i don't really want to be around you and their point of view is not realistic to think of earning money any sooner than a year ok then the question is what point down the year does it change from not making money to making money where is the magic date what will that day be like will a son be shining will be raining will be noon or four o'clock or ten o'clock what will that day of success be like s going to look like and they didn't know so then maybe today's that today's the day you start making the money today's the day you start developing your talent today's the day not some undescribable point down there this is the day when the genius creativity is apparent this is the day you clean up the dirty drawers this is the day you wash the dish this is the day the god is created it's yours if you're waiting for us like twenty years from now be rich it's like what you going to do to get rich in twenty years twenty years somehow you're just going to be rich it's like no one will manage it how are you going to manage it so don't ask me questions like that those are the questions that must be asked if you're going to break the syndrome of failure when are you going to be healthy five years from now next year when the same chains next year when you get a new job when you get your tax return back when your aunt die your mother dies you inherit the world what point does this change what point i don't know what points changes but i know at what point i start working to make it change it's on this breath right now this is the moment people say i'm going to stop smoking so when you go to stop smoking i say it will sometime but i will se when next week what will that day be like what must it set itself up to be for you to change your going to lose weight who in what makes that day be like that you start changing what must you do every day to make that day of change a true change what must be if you're going to study for an examination when do you start studying for the examination when did you know the examination was coming in yesterday when did you start studying maybe tomorrow you should start studying yesterday because you had knowledge of that event and that knowledge of that event says right now you start moving towards it you may not open a book yet you may be sitting in your mind reviewing all the things you can remember from that course you may not stop changing the  diet now you may be looking at the food you're eating as you eat it getting familiar with what you're putting in your mouth and how often you're putting it in there and how you're eating it and how you're chewing it you become a very familiar with your errors with that thing that keeps writing failure inside of you when you see a worker who's working for you that you're going to fire you fire him on the moment no you start looking at those things that are disruptive to your organization and you start writing them down date time place what you did what you should have done what i don't like about it and also what you do like or you just go through life picking and fault finding then when that moment of change comes we are in the change and we have been creating the change in some point in there it moves inside of us and you may say i looked at the clock ten o'clock and i just knew at that moment i had changed fine very often we don't know that one we're less it's a great illumination takes place we say aha i saw the light the voice spoke it's a daily ongoing process and we get a spontaneous breakthrough is called genius somebody once explained to me that they said you know it's like ninety nine percent perspiration one percent inspiration i said wrong it's one hundred percent perspiration that inspiration seem to come on top of all of that and you wonder word came from and we still often don't know where it comes from or just a see it we struggle we look at something for a long hours we try to figure out a mathematical problem we try to understand interpret languages we try to read a scripture from the bible to understand it we go over and over and over and over and over because you are who you think you are i got news for you you're cockeyed crazy you're on the way to hell and you know what the biggest lie in hell is that there's no heaven heaven is a big lie  wondered why deep down inside and all these years we've been working together i tell you the truth time after time after time after time after time after time till you probably get sick of it and yet any time you take any of the principles i give you and you would hold to that as you would grasp an errand rod for salvation you would lift yourself right about of it and continue on any one of the princip love unconditionally be of service be happy be joyful any one of these things if you felt all along the way though you'd be happy and joyful in the midst of failure that's practical believe me i just don't see any reason why people have to die every day before they what value is it to make people fearful when not given that little buoyancy of support of confidence i won't lie to you to give you confidence or support the bill is going to fall down i will say oh i don't think it will to make you feel comfortable as it's coming down and get out of my way let's do that let's make the change but to sit in confusion and say i'm confused i'm so confused doesn't do anything to make you not confused nor does again my support thinking oh you poor confused to stop demanding of the impossible stop trying to live your life in terms of somebody else's opinion stop having two goals out there this goal will go the blocks you take one and move on it so it's wrong it will be all the way before long and don't feel bad of making a wrong approach an error wrong direction that happens all the time and a lot of people how could you possibly miss something as obvious is that as important i know more one guys walk down street the zipper down yesterday these are laughable situations you know these things that are that are so horrendous and so embarrassing and tragic are later on are good stories in terms of people make crack up over what happened there when you did it it was a catastrophe and usually it's on yourself and if it's going to be funny later on it's funny right then so you get to enjoy it while you're doing it and all the hundreds of thousands times you get to tell it until it becomes boring and then you go and create another embarrassing situation or even it can be a catastrophe the car wreck you're in and how you were so frightened their body was cut and bleeding and that story be told for years from now how many of you have heard operations people have never had cancer all of my body is just all over and they cut we should probably have a sign all over this says be happy smile be joyful when not just one might be crazy we should be allowed to be crazy and our own community none of you really look alike act alike never different occupations points of view but one thing we have in common is that spirit inside of us that we call the traveller and that is that common denominator that in the midst of everything that goes on somebody will catch it and they start laughing and the whole thing shifts from the dread of the doom to how firm but that's the idea should be the consciousness of tom sawyer you know whitewash the fence of friends and get everybody on the fence but not make them feel like they were ripped off but like we're some more fans until maybe that's let me pay for a while and it should be that cooperation that oneness comradery the fellowship spiritual loving the should be that loving respect here and that your focus is not the individual but the god form and keep that present and we walk through life and we make our bodies healthy we make them healthy we don't just what we have dominion and control over it and we do that and we make our thinking think straight and we put our feelings in good balance and we hold it there and we don't give our body over to poor nutrition and bad habits even if we don't feel like it is easy to control when you feel like it but what's the challenge what have you gained it's that moment when you don't feel like it and you don't want to do that you jump up and do it but if the attitude is not happy to do it you have again you've just done the process and there's no gain in the process it's just mechanistic make everything a one suit consciousness move somebody walks by you and they're down you know you can still in thought save you wish them happiness wish them up but don't try to take it from them they've got to learn how to give it up they've got to learn the process of how to get out of it or from then on they come to you is a beast of burden and you have to carry them and carry them foolish you don't fish for me teach them how to fish then they can feed themselves be happy with each other you have the spirit present so unique opportunity to take advantage of the opportunity not in greed not an adverse not in aggressiveness but in most cooperation loving shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey of a soul call this number one eight hundred eight nine nine two six six five you can send an e mail to service desk at m gene or write to that which is post office box five one three one three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one dash one nine three five this has been that which is with john rogers thanks for joining us take a deep breath and but receive the air into you know take it into you receive it into and then let it go out has not been receiving into  don't take a breath then because that's force just receive it in his very frankly something else is bringing you other than you because you can't stop that not that to do you see even in the grass is a breath of god the divine spirit the for anything less than that you couldn't exist so let a spiral your conscious energies inside and wherever there's a block of wood with black aside you've got to receive it you can't force it can't do anything with that you may not even know that it's happening but if your intention is to have it happen to receive an air interest negative blocks you may still have blocks there but they're not negative they may be useful to you as building platforms you're already past your own ego statement and you're seeing into the spirit right now just by breathing into it the colors you see in your in a vision will be the color of oxygen that you're going to breathe telling you you need that vibration disc just keep doing this is called so harsh yoga just the natural way of breathing him breathing out you know why you don't have to believe anything because it's a spirit doing it in the few believe you don't believe and still does it that's why it's closer to you than your hands and feet and you people are doing this with us if you have an acre pain someplace breathe the oxygen right into that area with whatever colored lights on just keep doing it and it will naturally normally select away from this too with what it can in peace that you're feeling is a presence of the holy spirit because it brings peace that you can understand and you got into the bottom part of the pitcher and now it's just like how to maintain and fulfill that more anything else thank you