you again thank you it's my honor to sit with you and to be a part of your radio show we're going to move right along i have some questions for you and if you're ready we can get started yes ok you know you're working around the clock on this important event slated for october tenth twenty fifteen it would take place on the national mall and must be taken a toll on your health and you're spending large sums of money on the justices or else who say what do you hope to gain and what do you hope to accomplish first the greatest accomplishment of all is to unify our people and i struggle under one theme that rises above all personal and organization agendas and that theme is justice justice is a principle of fair dealing it's the greatest of those principles and the honorable elijah muhammad taught us that justice is the law that distinguishes between right and wrong it's clear that black people in america happen not receive justice fair treatment equal treatment under the law it's clear that the native americans the degeneracy people of this hemisphere have not been treated clear that women who don't get equal pay for equal work have not been treated fairly it's clear again that the soldiers who have gone away to fight for this nation this is a lance great war that has lasted longer than any other war was fought on the basis of  policy that was not in a court with that she bangs not fair treatment so when you look at all those who have a gripe and no real avenue for the region dress of their grievances what greater thing then for all of us to unite and form a great brotherhood seeking justice as you know the nepalese members of the united nations armed forces who were the victims of chol flowed down into the capital of haiti poisoning the waters of blood the united nations is not treating the haitian people fairly by admitting that this is what happened so that reparation can be given to haiti for what the haitians have suffered behind that e then or we see the tragedy of nature so we invested in a water purifying system that could clear in that water and we thank god that we were able to give it to our brothers and sisters in haiti but being need was so much more now the haitians are suffering between themselves and our brothers and sisters and their brothers and sisters in the dominican republic who don't see the haitians as their brothers and sisters this is the product of white supremacy they created a brown people back into mixing their blood in their african blood and then imposed on them spanish language  language young ones that spanish culture french culture that hatred that exists between france and spain imposed on the people and now regret own family made that way by the white man putting his blood into africans and telling the lie that you're better than your black brother there wouldn't be a brown man if there were no black men we are the father of it all so if you cannot are not and respect your own father and hate him after he got your freedom and then the united nations will not sanction the dominican republic took all of more equity and you have this if it continues will lead to a tree of white supremacy its roots have to be exposed that that tree means die that we may live regardless of race creed or color in peace and with each other and the stench remains and the dunes remain i would like to turn your attention to refuse closer to home there's a solid archaeological evidence that african sailors more specifically the finnish and came to the eastern shores of the us over fifty thousand years ago and coexist with native people also several tribes became involved in an international trade on the high seas through to finish an effort sometime they've always had in the last million man march sense that what has been the status of the relationships in alliances between our peoples have these bonds binge gran and if so how if not why not to be very honest there's always if you by well meaning people to put the black and the real together i have been involved in that for nearly forty some years maybe more but joining the black and the rich still has to go through the way the white people have infected the re traits of our mixture with our native american family when master father mohammad came to america from mecca to follower unless you re cited the student enrollment and these were called the rules of islam meaning that these were guiding principles of and the first question was who is the original name but some of us have never heard a question like that so he gave us the answer the answer is the original man is the asiatic black man the make the owner the cream of the planet earth the god of the universe now many of the native people that come among us they mix their blood among us and as we get lighter we come under their sway so jest as it was in the dominican republic and stories about us and we were told stories about them so we got to get through all of the propaganda all of the lies to build trust with each other we've made some very good attendance but the honorable elijah muhammad in those rules of islam asked us the question what is the population of the original nation in the wilderness of north america and all over the planet or and the answer at that time in nineteen thirty seventeen million with the two million indians making the total of nineteen million in the wilderness of north america four billion four hundred ago a white man was in on the planet then so it was an easy for us to into mingle with one another because we are brother of each other's blood and bone of each other's bo rich rebut so a we we are poor individually but this year alone our economy they say we will have one point three trillion dollars coming through our hands but we are consumers and so are our native american brothers and sisters so the enemy makes us consumers where we used to be been done ourselves before he came we were eating rebuild our own homes no matter how crude they were they were ours we learn how to live how to master the environment into which we go were bred and born but today something in what is called the united states really have over three hundred something over five hundred tribes fifty eight million acres of land is in trust repairing on understand that fifty eight million acres and much of it is in front to the united states government do me give me some information on that it appears as though hundred fifty years ago when we were under constant physical attack genocid practices that once we became quote unquote in their eyes civilized enough to talk to they told us that we will take your lands and and and and you entrust them and us and we'll watch out for you and that was a trick there are over six hundred twenty seven treaties signed between my people and the united states government that they've never lived up to they have not kept one treaty in the entirety of the hundred fifty years that they've been here there were twelve hundred a regional tribes governments here in north america before they got here we had a centralized government thirty miles east of east saint louis we were sent our representatives from all twelve hundred nations every year to sit in conference with each other they did not have democracy they did not know what democracy was until they came here and saw what we were doing their united states constitution is not theirs the iroquois confederacy from up in new york six nations they had the great law of peace and if you go to your computer imprint out the great law of peace and print out the u s constitution and look at them the parallels are to raise our children and they stole all of that and incorporated it in that doctrine that george w bush considered as a g d piece of paper and this is how they got their constitution they took it from us brother thank you so much brother for sharing that us because we're dealing with a people that broke every treaty with the native people and told every lie and me every promise to us none of which has been fulfilled and if you go down to haiti or the dominican republic or into central and south america he's done the same thing so today why should we trust like why should we trust a deceiver and allow that deceiver to come between us so in those days we could communicate with each other and we knew how to treat each other as we should be treated we don't call that religion we call that the nature of god that is in each one of us we don't need a book if we live what is in ourselves we inlands according to what i've read the wealth is one point five trillion dollars in material  that is under the ground i visited navajo land the navajo nation and i was amazed at what was under the la but how much of it was being leased or extracted by no means so for me my dear brother the future is really ou we are already on the last reserves of mineral strength in america it's on the land let me let me tell you i'm working with the apache and i'm working with the navajos and some issues they're coming to washington d c on the twenty first twenty second of this month protests to go to have capitol hill and hopefully give them help but john mccain company the tonto natural forest national for is in arizona right and right in that that that conclave of land is where apaches were slaughtered back in eighteen hundreds this is where the apaches go once a month to do their spiritual and ceremonial praises and getting together as a people to bring them closer together spiritually john mccain attempted to sell that land to resolution copper mining company however one of the spanish speaking indian brothers who just happened to be a representative from the state of arizona ro ro hava got his hands in the middle of it and introduce a bill and took the legs out of right from under john mccain this is what we deal with we have so much to give but so much that is in control of those that continue to press us to oppress black brothers and sisters to oppress our yellow brothers and sisters to oppress the poor whites this is what we deal with and if we do not stay on top of what they do and their tactics they will continue to take all throughout indian country mr minister in south dakota arizona the little colorado river runs through the reservation but they can't get that water because some corporation says it's ours it is not there's nothing that god has put on earth belongs to any one group of people or any one corporation or conglomeration of corporations are certain get off like this but you know but the truth has to be told and as long as we don't give the facts and tell the truth about what's going on there we're doing for destruction window for destruction as an american indian people as black people as the whole entire human family all the more reason why our unity and our bond of brotherly love with each other will give us the strength to overturn and force the land back into our hands break the lease is never suck in the life blood of the native american people we can't do it as long as you are where you are we are where we are and the tribes not forming that great bun so that when big come to washington on the twenty four thought the twenty second and petition the government sits back and listens and say years yes years away with because you don't have the power to make us do right the honorable elijah muhammad said even the devil will do good under the gun but you gotta have it and the gun that i'm talking about is not the best tool but firing the cannon of our unity big can not listen to me good they cannot keep hold of that when we are united we can force america to do right by us yes we can they can not afford people and b is not a threat in the speech of the prophet you know something brother every year since i've been on the air deputy have to be which is fifteen years i'm the only native american voice on the radio east of the mississippi going on f m radio every year i ask my listeners and supporters to help me fill two to three fifty arizona and people have been good in helping us through this but you know i'm hearing what you're saying and it makes sense that if we were  then we could eliminate poverty within our all communities if we were united then we could stop the defamation of mother earth if we were united we can stop pollution in our waters if we were united we could bring that in to the pollution that comes from coal and digging for oil if we were unite then we would be able to find the answers that our ancestors had mine and yours thousands of years ago when god told us that we are the caretakers of the earth we could find the way back to natural living through solar energy that's free through energy from the water that's free but as long as there is not a dollar sign on it they're not interested and they don't hear about the people that's why my dear brother when you say if if if if if we were united in  is our division is in their interest because as long as we are not united they could continue to do as the been doing and john mccain and the machines of this country will continue to rob the indians of the value of the land keep us divided keep us poor that is their tactic that's their goal now if we feet that we have control over we can feed croak shelter produce jobs because it's all in the land so some of my brothers used to say free t land and if the land and much of it is in trust we need to free the land and we can do it if we are united then wait a minute and we are willing to not talk about it but be willing to pay the price to free the land that is no freedom without the shedding of blood i'm sorry to have to say that nonviolence is not going to bring the land back to us our unity will keep us from having to fire a shot but if we are not united the only way we're going to get what belongs to us is to make up our minds either to live to get it or die trying to get and when you are willing and not afraid anymore to pay the price for freedom don't let this point man tell you the final and so wrong every damn thing that he got he got it by being violent killing people raping and robbing and murdering he's doing it as we speak and then hates i don't know why men think you're better than god when god in the bible said he loved jacob buddy hated esau in the bible he said no man can serve two masters he loved one and he beat other they have made us little as sheep that they can walk over and run over but when we decide it's over and we should make that erase the problem that's our we gotta change the one of the things that i ancient people knew yours and mine when it got to the point where they would be extinguished they had to fight even if they lost the head to fight so the great wiring of spirit came up o somebody asked me the other saving me from a passion that's ok was me can you forgive him and i looked at him i said no i cannot forgive him because he knew what he was doing he was cold when we make up our mind we're not taking it no more because it's better to be dead then to live under tyranny all the days of your life this is why our merica separated from england ninety tribes youth from fourteen to twenty two what is their future what kind of future will we give to them if all we can to give to them is what we once had what we once did how we once lived and today we're living under tyranny and oppression no we have to give our children a future and the future to is in the land but the land is in trust day hell it is we can bring back trust but it's going to take unity to do it believe me call a point to a year and a half a little over almost a year and a half ago because of all those thousands of people that i've met over my years conversations with people that look like african american people and when you really get down to the nit in the oh my my grandma was a cherokee or my great great grandfather was i think it was a seminal and because of the the stolen heritage of american indians who are black blood of black people with indian blood i felt that it was time to bring about a new organization that we call in c b national congress of black american people indians and when i made the announcement in six months there were car loads of people from california oklahoma the brasco people that came out of the wanted not people in massachusetts people from bus loads of people from atlanta they all converged on washington d c at this little church that only  maybe two thousand people in the aisles were packed they were outside all around the block and i asked them why did you come because i had to see my family and i said what family i'm black and i'm indian and i have never been to anything where black indians or any is where black blood came together under one roof this was the first time in the history of this republic that black folks of indian blood and any of the folks who were black blood was able to come together as a people and not feel ridiculed marginalized subjugated because they stood up and told the world who they are i would like to invite the nation of islam in especially you my brother to be a part of who we are because we are already connected by blood so celebration goes on i would like building on that beautiful picture of black men and women who have indian roots and written men and women who are indian men and women that have some black ten ten fifteen that's the date that will go down in history i would like to see all the tr those that know that their roots are entered twined and those that don't you have a legitimate grievance to put before the united states government we have a legitimate grievance to put before the united states government all of the matters of justice are small in comparison to the rear and the black even though latino family must have their grievances redress there is no grief that anybody has that's more difficulty to solve than the problem of the black and the reason may i say my son knew how to go in the wilderness and build a tent where they stayed i watched my way they put a blanket over her mom because she has indian roots and they danced my wife had never danced but there she was with the enemy has kept us apart and we must break down these barriers because the same spirit then i saw when one letter lone w invited me to the son name ends in the four corners with the navaho when the hopi are and the government was coming to take their land and the muslims went with me my wife my children we went there to stand with the novel whole and the hopi not knowing whether that we will have to fight to maintain that land god bless those we didn't have to fight but we went there to be with our brothers and sisters in a time of trouble we cannot let tintin fifteen just be something with a few tribal members coming that indian nation has to show family a future for them and we can't be afraid to step up to what is deep man did of us back to defend the life you were to walk into any mosque in america and you just laid your hands on the first person or third person fifth person that you see you realized you laying hands on a native american i believe there were only eight percent of the slaves that came to america so how is it that there are so many more people that they claim a black african american american this is black yeah no we are the original people of the earth i remember a few years ago i was in africa and the pope i think it's john paul done to the indigenous people so while i was in africa he was saying that we should forgive i put a then ask us to forgive but no forgiveness before repentance and this is what i want to say to my black brothers and sisters who want to forgive want to forgive for what we've been through the blacks in america for four hundred and sixty years and the native people over five hundred yea forgiving is good times that's an infinity of forgiveness but let me say this the forgiving family jesus was not saying forgive satan satan were born to do evil there's no forgiveness for him there's destruction for him it is you and i who have been made other than ourselves because of being under them they bred their evil nature into us so i'm lookin at a red man but i might be lookin at my enemy parading as a native american don't lie to yourself you've been made white under your red skin like we have been made white under black skin so you don't know what day hell are dealing with when you deal with us because one day we act like we are the real native american the real black man the real mexican and then out of mouth will come tannic expression greed and lust that's why we sell out our people that's why on the indian so called reservation or indian lands t these white people who have literally taken the wealth from your land and made a few people rich this is their pattern all over the earth and it's this kind of indian this how did they get everything from you and you have nothing they come in posing as a friend that's how they got to texas they came in little by little then the next thing you know they wanted to bring slavery into texas and be a riginal mexican would not have it wall broke up in they took texas they took arizona they took new mexico they took california to be diplomatic to hell with you diplomats and your foolish diplomacy speak straight words because those are the words that will bring about a change not delicate language that i want to be politically correct can you be politically correct when you are blind deaf and dumb and destroyed by your enemy to hell with you and your political correctness be a man be a woman and speak the truth and then act on that truth if it comes to that stand up and we won't have to have these kind of radio broadcasts in the future we'll be sitting down talking about what we have done what we have built what we have given to our children rather than what they do very candid open discussion about the truth about was really going on in america as was the native american the black american the yellow american the poor white american the truth and this is probably a once in a lifetime opportunity and i'm very happy to be sitting in front of you look at in your eyes talking to you my grandfather used to always tell that you always look a man in his eyes because the pathway to the heart is through the eyes and if you look away you better be where aware that man the will not look in your eyes i want to i want to ask you something brother minister you met with president barack obama when he was a u s senator on capitol hill at a congressional black caucus meeting in two thousand and five know that he is the president of the united states and one of the most popular speakers before black groups in fact he addresses the n w a sci fi convention next week in