welcome to new beginnings with karen delk i am so pleased to have returning chris mather managing director of princeton london partners welcome chris thank you so much it's wonderful to be here chris  i had a conversation on january fourth which was about two and a half weeks before donald trump was inaugurated president and we had lots to talk about because we were talking about the election the upcoming inauguration you volunteered for a year on his behalf i was a hillary supporter and now we're about one hundred twenty days into his administration today is may seventeenth and there's much to talk about i have notes you have no and of so we wanted to continue this conversation close to the hundred days and because of your travel schedule in mind this is the soonest we could do it i just want to acknowledge that when we had our first conversation that was actually a week before then president o encourage people if you're tired of having anonymous debates on social media then talk to people face to face you know about your differences of opinion not that we're here to persuade each other but it was really to understand each other so you and i actually preempted that by a week because we had already take the show and then president obama said what he said and i thought right we were already there so this is the continuation of that initial thought of you know your supporting donald trump and hillary did lose the election so we're not here to really talk about her per se but what i do want to ask you is given that he's one hundred days then how would you rate him is he doing the things that you were expecting well it's a complex answer as you might guess and the answer is yes and no i mean lots of people have looked at the first hundred days and said it's everything from a disaster to a disappointment to you know something slightly more come to mention that i think you know what we have here is his contract with the american voter which i think you're going to show  and he had these various areas that he said he was going to do things and he's done offend number of them and on some of them he's done a very good job and others he has sadly failed the health care being the most notable failure i think some of the spectacular things he's done was getting neil go such you know on to the supreme court that was great i think he's done a terrific job with jobs he has increased the employment and the employment this about to be increased immensely he has done a lot on immigration although he got incredibly unpopular on what he was doing on immigration i've never seen anything so misquoted as trump is stopping immigration whatever he literally chose the same six countries that president obama had chosen and said we're going to do extreme vetting on people come from there it wasn't because they were muslims it was because those six countries had been problematical and he as maybe isn't not known by many people is very pro immigration he his family are all immigrants i was a you know i'm a first time immigrant i moved here from the third largest immigrant i mean sorry muslim country in the world india and england and so he desperately wants us to have what he would call contributing immigrants who actually love this country and who want to actually be here and contribute what he doesn't want is illegal aliens and one of his achievements is that just i heard this morning that saying from the border patrols that the cross border immigration the illegals coming over from mexico is down seventy percent the wall is not yet funded he's only got twenty million out of twenty billion so that's a flop so far he still vowing that he's going to do it on the the jobs front was good security he's been very supportive of the police i mean there's been these terrible about the police and like i was my friend all those things i think he has been very supportive of our police forces and security he did get through the suggestions of the tax relief you know the simplification of the tax act and i think that's going to happen although it hasn't happened in truth it did didn't happen in the first one hundred days the health care bill the american health care act only made it through on day one hundred five so it technically missed his first hundred days and it's only has some controversial things you know the e p a and his views on climate change and so on and i think he's treading carefully in that arena and what is what is careful to describe how you see well i think that he is very skeptical about climate change the world is divided between all the scientists who say you know we should be really worried about climate change and those who say that the studies that have been done would perhaps flawed and perhaps don't prove things and what he is saying is w absolutely have to take care of this planet you know he reminds us that even african countries ban plastic bags lots of people have done way more than we have in protecting this planet he wants to protect the planet on the other hand he's not yet convinced th carbon dioxide is terrible the thing as people say is not yet convinced that we can't be mining the things and using coal without pollution so i mean when he's saying coal can come back if it's clean coal it can't be dirty polluting coal which is what people are trying to make out he's really energized and he's not and i think those are the main things he did have korea north korea thrown in his lap and i think he's done reasonably well with that although it's still scary i think his actions against isis have been effective he's actually taken actions and i think they've been effective so he's done a lot of the things but  usual suspects of the mainstream media and they truly hate him or they truly want to bring him down they have tried doing everything he can't be bought he can't really be bullied he's a fighter so now they're saying oh maybe he has also imus you know that's the latest thing you know i haven't heard that i know you had mentioned that before i was there yesterday thing you know so i haven't heard it i know people who see him fairly frequently i know these people personally and he they see him personally and he's a long way from having any form of all time it's ridiculous so that's the atmosphere he's dealing with he passed i think more executive orders than most other people i think he did thirty odd he saw i believe thirty nine heads of other countries so he did a lot to meet people around the world he did a lot to try to block the costs coming out of washington you know he put in this thing that if you want to enact a new resolution you've got to take two out so that we can have any expansion of cost if you look at all of the various resolutions he passed in his first hundred days i think they will have the effect of reducing by several billions the costs already being incurred i mean the executive order the executive orders and vehicle c r raise i think there are some other things he was doing to try to contain and perhaps even reduce the costs of washington yeah well let's you know parcel off the item so in summary you feel that he is doing an eighty b c d e or f how would you rate him he's doing a mixture of bees and cities with a couple of f s like for health care you know every time you have to say he just didn't make ok so let's talk about first the muslim band which i'm calling it a muslim band because the primary people who are impacted whether they were green card holders or h one b visas or on a visitor's b visa were overnight barred from entering the country  response has been you know this is not what america's about right the you know the the statue of liberty is a symbol of welcoming people of helping people and i think the reaction that we saw was people were outraged that this was being an acted yes we're concerned about protecting our borders but the way in which it was done was not one in which it was helpful and there were individuals who were either students employees professors business people regular which you know the implementation execution of this administration has not run smoothly correct and many of the approaches i think it's his style i think this is what you know it's repeated now we're seeing it this is how  operates he likes dissension he likes a lot of activity and kicking up the dirt and kind of moving on to the next thing and so it has not been a smooth scandalous free first one hundred twenty days where we agree with that yes oh yes no absolutely i would say that it was miss mischaracterized by the press on the other hand i don't think anyone could argue that it was poorly executed it was done in a very slapdash way too fast manner that cause all kinds of people who shouldn't have been stopped to be stopped some sent back that was a great challenge and a great problem which is why i think when you check like you did yesterday people are not trying to enter this country because they don't feel welcome and it sets the tone and that's part of what his america first is all about is that he's he's about america first and that's only for certain americans that's not there well and i think that i have tried to talk with him the usual contacts about this and encourage him to say look everyone is welcome to america we love immigrants we always in all of our history welcomed immigrants except those who come here saying i hate you and i want to kill you that would seem to be unattractive and if we are to try to go into mexico if  are some things on the internet which are hysterical which are things like what does it take if you try to go into mexico and the the the regulations of trying to get in and become a citizen into mexico a much tougher than ours and if you want to get into saudi arabia of these other countries that are kicking up the shindig they have equally more strict regulations about getting in but one he did do it terribly badly in my and your opinion and to it was then mischaracterized as he trying to stop all immigration which is not the truth you know you know what i don't think it was characterized that he was trying to stop all immigration it was characterized that he was trying to stop muslim immigration because the six countries happened to be right  muslim countries and so since from the beginning when he attacked the gold star family who were muslim immigrants his he's been consistent in his approach his tone his target ok so you know isis is is is a radical islam and so he's been very consistent from the campaign to throughout his presidency so i don't think it was  mischaracterized i think what what happens now is people are saying well no it wasn't against muslims it was against immigration well immigration are two different things because he would come at it from two different vantage points he's come at it from  mexico which is our neighbor south and he's come at it from the muslim man when he had trudeau he even talked about nafta which is the north american trade agreement that has our northern and southern no and he's even suggested that maybe there need to be tariffs or imports coming in from canada and high exports for items go and how was something we didn't mention because i missed it in my characterization or my summary he said he was going to ban i have to and he has really they did that as he's going to renegotiate nafta and that is what they're doing as we sit there actually renegotiating it but just just clarification i would say it wasn't a muslim ban because he didn't touch the mega muslim countries or through india indonesia pakistan the song he chose six that had been singled out as having a lot of terrorists coming in amongst the immigrants and he said and till we can properly vet those imagine how would you do like reference checks or anything on this flood we i think we mentioned last time we bring in a million six hundred thousand people roughly a year five thousand a day or whatever it's very hard to vet those people and we didn't have the systems in place and he said until we have those systems in place until those guys get off their whatnots and put something proper in place we're going to be tough on anyone coming in from those countries and it wasn't a very well executed as we've said the ones coming in from mexico with the drug bearing you know immigrants or just illegal immigrants coming in for other somewhat nefarious  reasons lots of immigrants are coming in from mexico in legal ways and those are not being stopped talking the ones i was referring to where the seventy percent down is the ones they're catching by the border patrol is coming in the night with drugs and with other things so that's what's down there and i again i'm saying he really doesn't know this country needs immigrants the other thing that as you know he instituted in one of his executive orders was an investigation of voter fraud because there have been several saying we can't have illegal aliens who get in and cost our welfare billions of dollars voter legally and bringing drugs those are the ones he's not thrilled about being here immigrants who contribute and who love us very welcome sure so let's just one package which he just said in terms of the individuals who you think are committing voter fraud the person he put in charge of was the individual and it was proven and he was sued more than once or his voter suppression so that's who he's put in charge and the voter suppression impacts the people of color brown black hispanic people which obviously i'm not a supporter no i wouldn't be i but i did not know that yes that's who he's put in charge and that person has multiple times because of voter suppression out of kansas so it's it's i think that is not holding costs down to your point earlier and i think that is a non issue and in the sense that are there dead people on the rolls yes are people who move to different states like you have and i have to cancel our voter registration no even steve bannon was when he started talking about this right after his inauguration was shown to have been on multiple voting records that happens and that does need to be cleaned up but to put a task force where this issue is a waste of taxpayer money it's a diversion and it's not a serious issue i'm saying is it an issue yes is it a serious issue that needs to be addressed now in my opinion it doesn't and the person he put in charge is not the type of person that i would support because that person has been sued at least four times when i were there voter suppression well i don't care for him either i don't care for him for other reasons which we don't need to go into and i did not know that information you just shared so i do think he's a poor choice i do think from the sources we have members of the team and the team as americans for innovation i believe the website showing during this had proved to them so looking at various documents and various results that there was fairly substantial voter fraud and if you're extrapolate what they found it would say it was substantial across the country amounting to millions so i do think that that is an important issue i do synchronistic it hurt his his election the fourteen million that he claims he helped to register to vote they overwhelmingly eighty percent of them voted for him and you know i'm not saying that it doesn't need to be addressed i'm just saying that i just think and yet the person he selected and i think to sp taxpayer money on this i think we agree yeah it's not so it's not good don't could you change him yeah let's let's go back to something else about his support of the police yes you're correct he does support the police and he has done it in a way that i personally actually take issue with i have members of my family who have been on the police force who have integrated the police in the sheriff's department in their respective communities so i have to state say that first i understand the importance of what the police do i call in the police i expect them to keep me and my family and my willing to not have background checks for individuals he wants to take to not only be part of the police but part of border control part of security whatever form which is a huge huge problem in the group and the other thing that i'm very concerned about that either i mean he's signing all these executive orders so quickly his  his advisors who i'm also not a big fan of because their stated at least one or two of them have stated their objective is to destroy the government in the sense of  how it operates and we're that's partly happening really happening again unfortunately we have to agree that he is surrounded by people who need to be accepted in the very close people who should be  now and i agree and that is a great distress and i agree with you on the background checks and so on this with the other the other alarming thing and i'm coupling things that happened prior to him becoming president with his march of of you know in his view everything is perilous his inauguration speech that his campaign acceptance speech supported that he thinks that threat is around the corner and i'm not saying that there aren't threats on the u s but it's not as dire as a picture he painted but he's painting that picture because he says i alone can fix it and then he's putting in place and dismantling things that personally i don't agree with and one of them is is he has deemed not declassified but he is removed from the list other organizations where he has said no there they're off the list and again it's consistent from his campaign to his presidency how he's done this  and we also have a local police force in major cities and in some rural areas that have taken on military equipment that the military is no longer using so when you couple the militarization of local police forces not everywhere but in some places him also saying well we don't need to do background checks because we need to you know increase border security we need to increase security period he's taken groups that have been identified as internal terrorist threats within the u s and he's he said no those groups are no longer he says he's signed orders to that if i didn't know that did he say for now or forever because you know if there's no forever and i was going to tell you when he's done this because it was  it was alarming and i certainly would agree i think this was on february sixth he removes white supremacy groups from the counter extremism and that was on monday february sixth very surprising and so there is there are some things that he's done that is just you know troubling i certainly agree on the ku klux klan probably the most unattractive yeah that's ever one there is there are other groups the right group spencer who heads that you know is is part of the breitbart organization which steve bannon is a part of  and so i i don't see him in favor ability i'm not there and of course we're not even talking about the recent so sedation that's rapidly two weeks so you're saying yes to supporting the police of course but do it right is what you're saying no i'm saying do it right and don't do it in the sense that you are turning groups against each other and police have open license  it feels like with this president there certainly was they felt that way before but it just increases that and it's a bit troubling we have such little time thirty seconds so took the last thirty seconds to you well you are very kind i would say it's been bumpy you know the one hundred days was i think roosevelt said you know when the country was desperate and they wanted to get everyone working together and they did hundred seventy executive orders because everyone congress and the senate were going to depression work together to get out of the depression now we are in a bumpy place and no one is working together and so and he has all he has all the bridge and he has dishes all of the running if the congress ok you here's my biggest disappointment that's my big disappointment a man who i still believe in i still support absolutely why he has mind himself one with his closest advisers some of whom i think were a big mistake and should be purged to why he has not been able to corral those various bodies that he now has on his side and honestly i  blame the mainstream media for attacking him but he is not helping himself so i think he has a lot to answer for i still completely believe in him he's had a very bumpy first hundred days not the worst though if you look at history he's actually achieved more than a lot of other presidents but he has got to get his act together and he has got to find a way to get people working together and i would appeal to the mainstream media to just stop this insane bloodbath against him ok i'll let that