from santa monica california here is that which is with john rogers that which is presented by him as i am the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to awaking the spiritual heart within each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual and titled carrying the intention of the hard right after john rogers speaks will tell you a contain more information about the movement some of you are new to this expect nothing and you will not be disappointed that you're going to get exactly what you put into if you put happiness into this happiness will be returned and if you decide that you don't want to put anything into it happiness will still be returned because we're very selfish about that we want everyone to be happy and you know i'm i am always perplexed that we decide to choose one day the year called christmas to be nice to people and i went shopping a couple days ago and it is not the season to be nice to people that yes this is the season to get what you want and hopefully you know what you want but i'll tell you the best bargains for you people that are out there waiting don't open your presents until maybe three days after christmas then you get to go and try to win on the bargains because the saw going to mean the same thing a little bit later on anyway hopefully the one thing that will not be rodent decay would be how much we care for each other and that caring is real cryptic type of process to be involved with it was quite a few years ago we were doing some work in one of the seminars and i heard somebody say well that person i'm working with isn't caring i can i get somebody else and i just looked at them and they said well and i said well the pursing is a caring person they probably just don't care for you he looked at me said well that's it i want to get somebody who will care for me i said well try caring for that person and see what happens and totally disgusted with my answer jess you don't answer stuff like that to a woman who wants something else or a man but the person did go back and start caring about what was going on and later on came up and said i don't know where  which is all you have to do with a lot of people anyway just stand and wait for them to finish whatever their tirade is and then they'll come back into their balance and their joy and their happiness  spirit is moving across the room in a really nice nice way it's not amazing how that something that is in the us is independent of us and is in everybody else and once we move towards a it moves towards us and all we have to do is have an intention like all the shop in this room with the idea of let's care and the spirit of caring moves you know it's amazing it is a serious spirit it's one of just respect and honor most people think caring mean just posed to do this and then you do this and then why didn't you do this for me and why didn't you do that and  why didn't you do this and you didn't do that that's command that's not caring caring is the intention of your heart towards the intention of their heart and if you can produce loving had seen these little kids walk around here is very easy to do they just a list of their response immediately because you want some ice for them which tends to be one of those mistakes again we should want for them what is appropriate for them all of us had the spiritual promise inside of us when we were born and now we good to look at our life and see what we've done with this have we kept the promise are we keeping the promise and what is that promise or the promise is always been to know god and to love god with your body mind and soul and to lead your neighbor the same way a lot of people say no it says both love your neighbor as yourself sure modern day millennium information the difficulty is loving people the difficulty of loving people because so much you would like to love with them and yet we have forgotten the first thing the very first thing we have to trust the love of ourself before we can trust our love into someone else you have to trust to love yourself how would you dare go up to someone who you don't know real well and profess the spiritual loving to say i love you with that meaning more than the spiritual loving would they be traded they mislead you would they let you down probably why do we know that oh if i asked for a show of hands of history did everybody raise their hand about something happening like that in this life where somebody didn't deliver what they were supposed to deliver and they probably didn't know they're supposed to deliver the thing that's so appropriate about christ and christmas is a supposed to do low deliver to us hope and joy and yet my life to the christmas season has always been one of christmas was a time i didn't care for i like thanksgiving and i like halloween and i like valentine's day and i like my birthday that christmas always seemed to be so much had to be done in such a short period of time to please everybody and when i started to know a lot of people there are a lot of presents to buy so i would start buying the presents about six or nine months before christmas and it got so well i even now every star shop tomorrow and the next day you start shopping for next year's christmas you'll start having that consciousness in your mind and i think the boy this be a terrible thing to say but i'll say we have take the commercialism right out of that besides it's very expensive but then who's going to give you the thing you want who's going to give it to you you have to learn to give to your s strange that may be and yet it's so hard it's so hard we're told we're conditioned we're trained we see the beauty in other people and we want to be involved with them i mean it's almost a matter of life and their and we're not going to be involved with them we're not going to there's no way to be involved with everybody there's just no way especially in the way that they want it which is they want to everybody get together physical remember that big song came out let's get physical a tremendously popular song the sub just appointing because there's no way to get physical with everybody in this you are real fast and the only thing that i know this fast is the spirit to this in all places at the same time and that i said well here we go again we're being led down the path of disappointment what do we do when that happens we're going to turn back into the hurt place we're going to turn there is this going to command attention it's going to demand attention and it's going to have us do repair work the disappointments the crazies the upset in us all based upon we were promised something and who promised us that we look in the mirror will find the answer to god promised to us well from everything i've read he didn't christ promises all that mirror thing i've read he did neither so what is this promise that we're dealing with to know the nature of the divine to know the nature of the divine to experience that nature of the divine to look in the eyes of someone else and see the spirit of god shining through them and to know that you can go to them because the soul can be seen but this certainly does reflect the spirit of the soul and that reflection can be seen and eyes and we have to come forward more and more in ourselves not to give to someone else that's going to happen that will happen automatically the overflow of your own consciousness of love is going to come forward i know many many many of you and your children and i see how you treat your children and sometimes i'm i get a little disappointed that you want the child to be like you i think you're nice but do you think you'd be nice to have the child be like the child there's a saying in the bible thought of your mother and father and there's another one that says to honor and obey and the ones that really mean were to follow commandments of someone else who doesn't know how to live their life real well are we here to find a new way christ came on the planet because he said there's got to be a new way all the old is working all the news working but the new hasn't come into its fullness yet and was never declared to be in the fullness at the time and people are declaring the fullness of the gospel right now on the planet and it is not here and there's going to be a lot of disappointment because we're expecting health wealth and happiness and joy and thanksgiving and just really glad the we're alive now why the big disappointments and why the upset in this and why the hurt because that gospel and good news or the good message of the lord is not being lived out on the planet it's still to appear as it appears in each one of us each one of us have to open up when do we do that well yesterday would've been ok tomorrow would be all right and next year will be all right how about right now when you could look back inside and say well where do i find this elusive christ where is this being hanging out that's inside of me where is this kingdom of heaven in me where it says god dwells who if that's so true why don't i know that because it's not dwelling there as materialism dwelling there as invisibility and invisibility is a very real substance years ago i was taking a class and in the university and they were going to the colors and they did they read your into the l of the green and they were doing all sorts of variations and i saw the instructor sitting there just sort of listening to everybody and i thought well this guy is sleeping i don't know if he knows what's gone on and that we're all through it all was said and he said there's one color you've missed well there's no way in that class of smart people that could have missed any color they had colors i didn't know if some of the things they said were colors but if you don't know you sit and listen because maybe you'll learn and so they all gave up and he said well the color is clear and there is a color clear but you can't see it until you move to that place where that appears and some people can't see red because they can't move that place to they see red and we call it being color blind i just call it being color unaware just not aware of that how do people put things together in such a strange way that you pay them a lot of money to decorate your house when maybe your tastes are just as good because we have to unfold the newness we have to do that our boredom is our lack of creativity our sadness as our lack of doing when we're not moving in the spirit of our li we're moving in the doldrums of our life and that exists those are real most of us have experienced that and we've experienced in such a way that we don't want to have more of it when i grew up we all lived a lot because everybody was trying to be something better than what they were they're always saying they had this they had this and they did this and they did that and they did this and they did that when the truth came out nobody did in the a but why on earth where were we doing that trying to find something exciting about ourselves that would be attractive to someone else it's not boil down to we're already attractive we're already there and all we did was start to detract from who we are and we bought into that psychological pattern of holding up false images and pretending that size we got so far away from who we are and this isn't just unique to us in our time we can look back historically and start to see it unfolding just cascading down through history and it won't be a whole deal cascade into the future this elusive christ will be the one that is holding all this together allowing us to try out all the different things i was really surprised as meditating the other day and i want my eyes that just startled me that i opened them because usually i come out in a very slow stage because i get spacey if i come out too fast i get a headache the lights will be too bright i tend to get a little on every page but when i come out of a slow life i feel a little better towards it and the mazing thing was coming out of this base of spirit is not a fun thing to do and consequently i wasn't anxious looking to go back into that space and spirit something inside me said i don't want to do that and that i don't want to come out like that knowing full well you come out the way you come out and you go in the way you go in and some people will do it in many many different ways i've never found a wrong way to be loving i found a way to smother love i found ways to do that to want people to do it your way the way you want it the way you think it's best for you and run your hurt your hurt feelings run your hurt as though that is spirituality run disappointment low that's so goal that we're all aiming for run expectation of people supplying for us the wherewithal when we are there where with all our self we are our source we're not the total source we're a combination a combination of people that come together how do we say i love you when you already know i do how do you say i love you in a way that you get that beyond that i love you how do we do that certainly not found in the words when we get married we have children then we take that serve honoring that child in the way it is to grow because that's a new christ we start to bend it into the way we think it should go before you do that look in the mirror to see if you're really satisfied with the way you women take a really good look and then let the child be who they are supplied them with what they can use to help them grow in the way they're to go you'll find that they will honor and respect you we're having a lot of trouble in our world today in our country in our schools in education in the future about us who are the young people because we're teaching them to be like us and that we're not going to the future we have to die so the future can appear and we've got to let ourselves be open to the creation as it flows through and we're not there there will be calamities there will be a lot of catastrophes but it won't matter until it happens to you and when the happens to you it's going to be too late for you to care and for it to matter it will be over those are good news and bad news all in the same statement because now it becomes a cleansing and then it gets purified then it gets replenished if that's something that's going to take place we can enter into it right now we don't have to wait we can start by doing little little tiny things remember the movie brother son sister they say do few things in doom well that's all we have to do just the things we're doing now do it as best as you can if you're listening listen the best you can if you're watching watch the best you can if you're being just be the best you can there's nothing to fret over there's nothing to get upset about life is going to go on with or without you i look at my life and i go wow that person that i've known for thirty some years die and you know i miss them physically i go you know i keep saying you know how some sourness that i've been dead now about twenty years ago i mean maybe i should be able to answer that then how are they my parents died such pain oh my god i couldn't believe there could be pain walking around like that and then that pain went away it was amazing all the times i left them because i didn't like them i didn't like what they did that i left i would go away from home and always come back when i ran out of money which was what parents are supposed to do i guess what mine were i don't know about you people the pain went away but them remembrance of them stayed and i remember one day when my dad it really give me a while for it he told me where things were and i had the marks to show up and i realize that his hitting me healed me i don't know how i came into that but my dad hitting me heal me thanks accepted whatever happened as that's what happened not that i deserved or i didn't deserve it just that's what happened and it was amazing after that time we no longer were father and son but we were really good friends and the friendship is what i miss more than a father and the friendships that we have amongst us the ones where you had to just feel like you'd like to take a person and just cuddle up to him and hold a real cirrhotic it's not sexual it's errol's it is the touching the feeling the the the pulsing of life as it comes to them and how they live their life and how they're presenting their li all sudden gets very very intriguing because down the mall watching some of the people put up a decorations and they were putting up different ones and and but most the time they're all the same as i said christmas decorations like it's of hard to look at this beautiful tree here and not say christmas tree as that hard look at these flowers and say christmas flowers or not christmas flowers because that's that's the connection and yet the connections should not limit us because often our connections to a person is the restriction and the limitation that we're going to place upon our life and our future behavior and we have to watch out because that will lead to separation and divorce we've got to connect to people in freedom connecting to them and freedom comes down to just a few basic basic things and as yours is in your hands and i watched the greatness of young children growing up and i watched the greatness of parents letting the child unfold in the direction that is gainful for them where they're going to gain thank god that they're young so we can pick them up and hug them and kissed them because when they get all of you do it they might not like it and so you get all that in while they're young you know what that's called spoiling them and so later on they're going to go out look for somebody else that's a stranger to do it for him and you're there as a relative willing to do it and won't let you and isn't that life isn't that just the way it goes there's a lot of people who use the word they shut down inside and yet the very the very ones who will come to you for help when we do want to happens we help them because we have a in the tour spirit working and it just needs to be matured far too often we want to help up the wrong so the latter then we get the top we break the rungs of the ladder so it's harder for the next ones to come when we first join everybody's allowed in after we get so many and we start laying down restrictions of what you have to do in order to join to start setting up the elite in the supply i remember looking back over some literature dealing with healing with people and they would call that medicine back at that time and just call it healing when people were in war and in battles and they would get struck down and their life blood was going out of them they didn't yell medic  help because whoever came with that that was staying there lie was their healer was their loved one was their beloved was the one who had mercy on them and would teach them mercy to another and real help and nobody helps us when i've had it by the way i've had flat tires on stormy snowy roads up in the mountains and you need some help to change a tire and cars go by and they go by and you think one day i'll get even you're not going to get even you're going to get out there and you're going to be cold and you're going to change the tire what you've got to do and then if you see somebody else is to say now they're getting theirs remember how you had yours and what you wanted and see if you can supply them that quality and sometimes it is just comes in the car and get warm why not going to change a tire for you to retire but you can get warm while you're waiting to do that we watch the youngsters up here performing i don't know if out every get over being having ill is feeling about kids performing i would always have that sense inside like i want to do it so well you know they always do it so well even the things that i think will best not according to the and that's where i have my problem is that i have a plan cording to the plan and the plans been written down and everybody's rehearsed it and we all know what it is and somebody not doing it this and to hell with the plan and they haven't with the youngsters because they're going to do it their way and that's the was to me was always the most wonderful thing is how do i get myself in with this show that's going on where the stand back and feel ill at ease something won't go right it's going to go the way it goes we're going to perform the way we perform i've never done anything right the first time i don't have that ability i don't even have the bill to do it right the second time i do it differently the second time i re real well and i know that way and then the next thing i do is different and if i do it again it's different i've been talking about soul transcendence for thirty some years and i've never said the same thing the same way in over some six thousand seminars there's got to be at least six billion ways to say this them so why should there be a plan or a rule to say it there's got to be many ways to love th got to be many ways to love what then is the problem that christ cannot remain inside of us as the divine love or why it's very simple we're occupying that spot or occupying the spot and we're not loving we're not producing the loving quality just take a second go back inside try to find a place that has some irritation i shouldn't be too hard some reluctance stubbornness or let's look for some right just miss right just us that we got a lot of that and let's love that as it is not changing it to something else don't change it to grace or joy or happiness just love it as it is let it be ok that you have that inside of you let it be welcome inside of you and bible said something interesting that says oh something i don't do you sack you know word for word from the bible because i don't think it was ever word for word in the beginning but embrace evil does that mean go do that no it means just hold calm and let it be and it will flee from you where does it go and dissolves into you as energy because god created one energy and then said do with it as you want to do and we've been doing it so now we have to label it and so we label it good and bad so we can be on the good side when we're on the bad side let's go to the bad place inside just a bad place wherever that is and let it be ok it's not standing up to say i'm bad come follow me it's just recognizing that there are times a side of you when things aren't going to be as wonderful in grace as you might think they should be being a spiritual divine person how can we look at that if god created all things and there's sure a lot of proof about that maybe didn't create it in this present physical manifestation he said you get to do that then god is in the good and the bad and if he's in the good of the bad and that's us and that's our father nessa creator maybe there isn't good and bad maybe there just is and we have to come to what is and accept what is as not like or dislike but as are truly mary christ mass well we say this too is of the divine it will pass will pass all the good times past the bad times past it can't hurt forever you can't feel bad for ever why because everything changes here when you get a good meditation and you have a real good prayer and you know that god's in the kingdom of heaven and you feel the presence of that spark of divine you want to forever and then you don't get it and then use that feeling to beat yourself up with when it's a good feeling and you're not going to use it to beat yourself up and make you feel bad why you know what you need most if you're down up and energy you don't need to beat yourself up for being down i'm a spiritual person i shouldn't be feeling down and depressed so i'll beat myself up i'll think of all the bad things that i am all you doing is reviewing all your abilities it had to be able to be bad find that your life generally starts to smooth out the bumps and there start to some of them the caring starts to move forward and then we see somebody else and we think we could have them they should be better yeah that's who i really want that other person and that other person is looking at somebody else and that person is looking at somebody else and the eyes are always going to be hungry they're always going to be looking at how we look is really important we look with the eyes of loving that we look at them and we look at them with loving what are they going to say oh you're hitting on me i'm sure sure yeah of course that's what that is so you don't like it or tough you can't do anything about it that's inside of me it's when you look at a car and you like the car and your wife doesn't you're hitting on the car by the way because she sees the brand new dress or whatever it is she's hitting on it what is that euphemism for just letting our desires move out and touch into the world and say this i like this i want to be with this i want to go with this person i want to eat with i want to drink with them i want to be with them and then you don't what is that first you want to be with them then you don't change you're not supposed to change that's the problem with you is you have to have me change and i am changing i can't keep like i am i can't keep the happiness and the joy i can't keep it i can't keep depressed i can't keep painful i just can't do it but even the happiness and the joy that can be bomber time i've tried to spend a lot of time trying to find out how do you hold how do you hold god how do you hold christ how do you hold how do you hold love how do you hold that and i found out a very strange thing it was holding me i was holding nothing and i said gee i'm at the mercy of all of that and i started writing to my victim consciousness you can use  how easy it is to go from real good thing into a real bad thing without too much effort mind took no effort at all i'd sort of slipped then a said redirect re direct and each time i redirect i know i can be born a new i can be born again i can come back up again i keep getting that chance over and over over and when this flu was going around  really terrible people were just filling up hospitals is that they have nothing else to do except be sick no reason to go the hospital say they would just put me on beds until you got better and send you back out with the big prescription bill what was all this about this is about being human in the physical body this is something that was set up a long time ago and we walked to we walked through it but do we have to crawl through it if you have to get through it crawling you do is understandable if you have to try not to sure why we all want to be elegant and we all want to be very good and have everything moving along just perfectly it when i was talking to some pastors friends of mine and i told him i says you know god is very elusive and it's like when you're on the wrong track so i might being the god is very elusive they say well if you were doing what we're doing it would be a loose whom i said yeah so we talked a little bit more found out it was lucid for them also  i think that we have to be open to christ being allusive to us in order to reach all of us if we get rigid with what it does if the lord is going to come to everybody and as far as i know that's that's on schedule as whether we are come to the lord and that we don't know about that schedule yet we're still watching people struggle with trying to get that they think it should be one way all the time and yet there was a statement that i read in the bible but i thought was absolutely marvelous and it was something along this line what we've started doing here christ will make perfect in the spirit you know i just shared a whole lot of worry and concern because i was thinking how if you can make anything perfect with what he's got to work with me i know what's in there i know what what the deal is i know my resistances i know my stubbornness is i know might tenacity he's got his hands full then i realized he was talking about when i was in a better position i knew it meant spiritually i knew that in that place everything would be all right but i had to let it happen and it became very easy with all this flus going around i found one thing that people were doing over and over and over and i got a lot of mail from you people lot of phone calls everybody was hanging on to the sore throats on their cards this is what can i do about the sore throat this cough i said stop that guess what they had to do stop coughing how they went about that was their business totally their business some say what do you do as a whole cough drop works for me does that mean i want to hold no i want to go into the cough drop i got that there to distract it from me i don't want it but what happens when you ha right now that's it over over them and then you start feeling better to go never mind or you know when the angel of death comes by to say hello how are you we're going on a trip you don't get to say oh never mind but you're going to find out the elusive one that we worship in spirit you will be able to know very clearly in spirit very clearly and if you can go into all the things that christ said do these things that i do you too will do and you'll even do some that are might be quite different gives us an opportunity is progress and to continue progressing and to continue progressing that's not a statement of evolution but it is an evolutionary statement we're not through here if you don't like today you might not like tomorrow is going to be here and you might then have a chance to like tomorrow if there's something you don't like about the other person instead of getting them to change it see if you can get yourself to like that i have a have a couple there they marry for quite a while i laugh about because they're their marriage not married i mean they're married but they're not married because they fight and you all know you don't fight when you're married but right in the midst of their fighting one will start laughing and it just ruins the fight and the other one just so angry that they ruin the fight that they try to fight hard and then also they start  don't know that this whole thing is tied together and sits in the same bag fighting and laughing and loving is all in the same thing we've got to say if you fight too much you're together can you learn to like each other while you have disagreements can you learn to like that person's other point of view can you put up with it can you tolerate it i mean is there any kind of common ground you know one the common ground that we end up with a lot of times hate can you hate that person and like them as hard because most time hate says get away but i'm telling you that's not the way it works any kind of connection to the other person is a connection in spirit and is to be blessed is to be looked at with loving care the child that each one of us is the child that was adored by parents and some of us left it back there at two and three years of age or eight or nine  you think the father of an end of a solid gives us things we turn him down why because we're going to show him a thing or two but next christmas he'll be here give this more things again it's nice does make us wonder will there be another year we do this i wonder if that's what spirit of god or christ will want from us to do this again or he might say you're going to doing something else now and can traditions run our awareness of right now we're not living in the presence of the spirit of god and the holy ones we're not living there we're living in a make believe in the memory in a fantasy in the imagination and we've got to come to here and now and if we do if you can just get here for a second you will find everything is all right if you just let go of whatever that distraction is that comes at you keep being with what is then how do we get ahead in this world who said we're to do that who said we're to get ahead in this world could that be that that might be an approach that is in error and that maybe we're to just assist everyone in this world does that become a political statement that by christ was crucified as a political statement that was christ was born for every man to have a new chance or those just statements and you're going to put all your joint happiness on whether you get that new contract signed or that you bonus or the new raise in pay or this or that and that's going to change you're putting your happiness on something that's going to deteriorate fall apart you better put your happiness on your heart so you can take it with you start to build up more connection to the kingdom of heaven start to find more reason to go in and be thankful that you can even be thankful the other day someone that said to me how are you i said i really am really good and you know i really feel good that i can tell you i really feel good i had double goodness going and didn't even know it and i sit back in the car and just just relax thought here that's good to feel good and know you feel good and to share the goodness and the so good out here and then i went to sleep for a while i got too good wasn't used to all of that i'm much more used to it now if i want to go to sleep i just go to a real good movie and sit down  about five minutes i'm gone now when i wake up i say was that a good movie they said yeah i go well listen oh great get another two hours good sleep when that shows up again i think that we've got to resolve not make what they call this new year's resolutions just resolve that we're going to work out a little bit more even when it's going real bad  and it's terrible and we're really being pushed around by the negativity of the world and the things that just know it can get worse hatred and resentment that's a real strong one that's really strong get a hold of that one make it an ally get it senate filled and start using that energy fill because you stay angry for the longest period of time look how sustaining it can be for you get a hold of that energy and transfer it over use it for your goodness and for the goodness of others and merry christmas and happy new year john rogers closing words for beirut which mean the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you've heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book about write to that witches post office box five on three nine three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one one one three five this has been that which is with john rogers thanks for joining