we're here at cafe international with host tyler gordon tyler how you doing well thank you how did you get this how well i took it over three years ago coming this august from mom girl maria was what he friended through here in the oh it was really slow there was only like three people on the list was predominantly focused towards singing i mean poetry spoken word i was like two people do in spoken word and one or two people doing music mean this other guy on jase old i've seen a long time i miss them and she was going on vacation for a month and i said well take it over you know and for a month and she went away and i went to all the other open my snog this was like three years ago that was a lot more big open my spec then like the canvas was still around right right hand off of the people on tuesdays was another good one so i went promoted all those and like rather quickly became we've got like ten to fifteen people every night and the show and with two songs of peace and what three three hours yeah we get out here by like eleven so that's pretty packed right right there yeah so so when she came back last very short i ended up keeping it there was some politics with the owner and her in me was some he said she said stuff and somehow ended up with it so ok yeah that's how i got it so give me a little bit about you background where you're from how do you get here found with massachusetts cape cod was came out here to chase dreams i guess you know that francisco dreams yeah rock n roll dreams rock n roll dreams i guess the obvious question was how is that working so market once the mercy mercy me so many people named coexist i mean there's a couple people at least well one hip hop band that has a you tube video that sings they seem like they want to be in sync you know they sing about exist i don't get it if you're going to be co exist you got to say something that you know well tell me about that so co exist i've heard that coexist is not just a bumper sticker no i think i said that and well that's the first time i heard it  see the truth do it because you know it obviously has a bumper sticker you know what i think it is that  we as a society we're all caught up in self centered fear and like how other people visualize this and we all want to be liked by others and i for myself i'm working on getting out of that and oh this is a touchy subject i don't know why i'm going here on camera specially some of coexist songs just about learning how to love yourself and be open and honest and through that you can learn how to love other people and like the codes this bumper sticker has to do with religions and i believe they're really believe that religion gets in gods way right and organized religion organized religion gets in god's way i believe in the energy around us the earth these planets the universe is i don't know but i just think that if people can let go of someone or their fears of judgment and everything on it it would make it easier society to co exist easier together  different but we all have the same self centered fear for lack of a better aware of what scared of what other people think and the way we act certain way that we might not be in our heart our head tells us to act that way but it's not what's in our heart right right right yeah people in that he was analyzing that were trying to give back because they had gone beyond me me me they were actually really rich people you know so they were they were feeling bad and their way of like getting to the next level was to figure out how to give back t people which is actually what you're talking about everybody should be you don't have to be rich today to get there you just need to need to know how to get there yeah money gets in the way of things i think you know people think people a lot of money made things a lot got everything everything's great i got all this money and it was like most of my have no soul have there are empty inside they think they can buy everything that i write some happy yeah it doesn't matter to them having money was just like