to freeway ricky ross and of course rick ross is a been recognized as a major pawn of the cia drug war game he was a pioneer in the crack cocaine trade in los angeles ross harvested millions of dollars a day as an unknown participant the cia and u s drug enforcement agency ops and then long after he got out of it they still shut him up and sent him to prison and ok what are you doing putting up with a government that went  t there's no outrage about that is not right about the big banks laundering three hundred eighty six billion dollars in two years bloomberg reported to banks alone wells fargo loco via three hundred and eighty plus billion type in big banks laundered three hundred plus billion it'll pop up bloomberg a p you name it from four years ago that's just want to make sure they paid one hundred eleven million dollars fine that's like you rob a bank for a million bucks paying a three thousand dollar fine it's a slap on the wrist they say they always flush the people that work for him and the cia as part of the iran contra scandal his shin inching was later reduced to less than twenty years and released in september two thousand and nine he's finally off the probation the harassment all of it able to put his book out he's currently in the process of creating a feature length film for his life story a crack in the system i admire rick ross because i talked to gary webb about it when when this came out about the cia and his trial he did really know about it he was blown away and everything suddenly made sense they said just shut up don't cooperate with this reporter and people and we'll go easy he didn't show the game life in prison that was clearly done politically so it was reduced but it doesn't matter the issue is he's repented of it the global warming cold front heads but thank you so much for coming you know i'm just blown away to be here i remember when when i was in prison and you tried to come down to see me and and make should i was ok in it was one of my dreams to sit here with you in the studio and here i am today in i'm just blown away man and thanks for having me here oh it's awesome to have you and your you're speaking to college students all over the country you're speaking of the black and rational congress press club and put out a report i mean that was when i really when it really hit me that a kerry was right you know because i mean it was it's hard for me to believe how can a little guy like me who wasn't supposed to succeed couldn't really couldn't write high school dropout i mean how could i you know be involved with something this big i mean it was just like totally shocking to me to be honest with you let's start at the beginning in the few minutes we had for breakfast start at the beginning your live your life get out i got to see the black panthers in you know i used to want to be a panther so i go to school in you know trying to be like any other normal kid you know want to be a police officer or airplane pilot started plant tennis in high school you know did pretty good made all city was offered scholarships but i couldn't read or write so when it was time to take the scholarships i couldn't couldn't go to college so i found myself with the one thing that i thought that i could count on was my tennis to get me out to get and i found it that was no longer an option for me so i found myself back in the streets in south central los angeles so i'm walking around trying to figure out you know what was i going to do with myself and couldn't get a job you know even though i was very hard worker had no problem you know rolling up my sleeves and doing whatever call wash in taking out trash  any any number of things this is anything that i could do to start making a living i was willing to do it well one of my friends came from college in he had to stuff stay right there we're going to come back there became the biggest cocaine you're on the west coast on record became the heart of an investigation that later the cia inspector general had to admit that the cia was involved bringing in the majority of the cocaine at least the west coast it's much bigger than that mena arkansas i've interviewed that the pilots that were there unloading the cocaine not just tossed plumlee is on record iran contra testimony but just show many others that were there and and then of cops talked about that they'd kill the cops i mean a lot of people died over this information understand this and everybody days like yeah we know they bring it and well why we didn't know this back in the ninety's there been the heroin com g out of southeast asia they blame a colonel or somebody this is organized this is short segment want to go back to you rick ross gittins great to have you here my friend i appreciate your courage and you're not shelling out yet that longer sentence you know for not backing down but let's get into now where you left off you can't get a job that pays well you don't have a criminal record you could've got a scholarship you could read write for cash and then your friend comes back from college yes so he introduces me to cocaine for the first why kids weren't smoking marijuana they delivered it i mean it's incredible they prime the whole deal oh absolutely it's almost like they get your mind ready so that when you when you get the opportunity interested it's called predictive programming go ahead i'm sorry shit what you're saying is absolutely right so my friend comes and he shows me his stuff never seen it before it was yellowish yellowish white mike cocaine was supposed to be white he's like no man this is it so in a deuces to me he gives me a little bit like fifty dollars worth he said go and see what you can do with it so i'll go around the neighborhood nomex and everybody nobody knows what it is and i'm going all over south central l a finally i run into a guy who was a pimp and he says let me see it and he takes it in east cooks it up and he says oh yes pretty good stuff and that's how i got started selling cocaine and i went from there to this one person would buy from me and in another one coming he would introduce me to somebody else into up you know some days i'm making three million dollars a day show you got it on the ground floor of it yeah absolutely told the ground it was totally an obvious i had never smoked at that time i was still tinkering on being a tennis player you know like i don't know if you don't make it in tennis you know  but you got to do some you know my mom's on my back right now because i'm living with my mom i'm not bringing any income and she's really going hard on me you know your bum you're not going to be doing which a life so i desperately want to do something now i need to make some money somewhere so when this opportunity came you know i thought it was a blessing from god you know i start off just helping mike was my friend you know make the money for him give him all the money and pretty soon i know the business goes from near making fifty bucks a week to you know like i said three million dollars a day sometimes that i was reading sometimes your brain and thirty million dollars that deal every few days yeah i mean if you have ten days you know you folks didn't even know what cocaine watch i'm a community nobody nobody knew a cocaine it was a rich white guy drug would have felt you know i felt dead when i first started selling cocaine i felt dead it was another because i've been discriminated against you know i've been to a hospital and they said no no you can't sit right there because this is a white only it's six and you have to go to the back so when i started selling cocaine the south about coke and it was another one of those things that they said no this is for white people and you guys can't have addictive terminal in a zombie yeah i mean that's that's that's what happened exactly how to turn it unbelievable we're going to break it all down eighty minute segment coming up we're going to floor get ready to roll just go through it all rick ross is our guest ground level of the cia crack cocaine epidemic and all the sudden years after he's out of it they want to get rid of all the loose ends trying to throw him in jail turns out all the people involved we all knew what was going on he came to visit shut your mouth you've got the floor you've told the story biggest cocaine dealer in west coast history and it came out your trial that the prosecution knew the government knew the d a knew the cia to that that you were one of their main distributors but you didn't even know i want to get to that relationship and more but you got to the point a few years to where you know tell the story did you ever use why are you so successful and then go ahead walk through everything that happened and then now what your message is to the use about what's really going on i will talk about gary webb and i did start using for a short time you know i got up to a point to where i thought he had about eighty nine thousand dollars i thought i was rich so you know when you're rich you start experimenting you know which went with the drugs and i looked up all the money was gone so i mediately quit using you know i went back and we go regrouped you know i learned from tennis when you're doing some wrong you go back and you figure out what you're doing wrong so i figured out that i could use any more if i want to be rich i had to stop using so i stopped using and i went on to get rich well i made a lot of money you know like i said i made three million dollars a day sometimes and it got to the point to w started seeing the effect that cocaine was having an inside of my community and it wasn't the effects that initially thought it was going to have you know i started seeing people pushing baskets i started seeing women walking the streets and women doing anything to get high and i started to rethink my position i was around eighty eight eighty nine at that time i do my hands up i say you know what i'm doing the cocaine business i got enough money i got more money now and i ever thought that i would have  life i got businesses so i walked away well what happened is the government came back and indicted me for the things that i'd already done went to prison years in prison i got out as media that i got out they had no plan on starting to call me and his goal was to get me back inside a drugs but i didn't want to go back i was trying to go straight to me for like six months to introduce him to one of my friends once i made an adoption handing a bag of money and the cops whooped in arrested all of us and he got me for broken a deal for make an introduction stand it i knew that they were going to be doing a drug deal and for that reason that i a abetted the crime but at doing that kind of gave me a life sentence when i was sitting in jail doing it during his life in his fight my case i was approached by a reporter gary with well gary came down he saw me he started talking handcuffed they got indicted as well so i mean gary webb he was like oh man this is big in which you think it is i'm thinking it and talking about the crook cops you know it's like thirty five forty cops is running around robbin drug dealers taken in money  in they became drug dealers them selves ready because they was taking a drug from one person platinum on another person and selling them to this person and just you know just criminal enterprise i mean the whole the whole war on drugs is just like one big because when i was in prison i couldn't cry about my time you know if they gave me life since i had to do it a rest of my life in prison i could accept a death because i knew that what i was doing you know i knew i was selling drugs and i knew that i should have been selling drugs after a period of time you know it's the key to integrity and shanty i've learned is admitting when you've been wrong admitting and owning up to it but then there's the giant hypocrisy they're the ones bringing the drugs in and they're the ones putting you in jail that's a thousand times worse and they never own up to any of it in fact they shut up they're like they're god and they're clean and they're good that makes you want to throw up well you know that's what really really like started to affect me you know when i was in prison and i'm like period in court where you get to interview an informant because we never talk to the informant we don't know what inform is going to say you have no clue about what the person who's going to testify against you going to say so the court has a thing what i call a pretrial hearing i got to say i'm going to say doing trial so we don't know what this guy's going to say so we start your own able ever do a deposition no deposition with this guy so when we get to trial you don't have a clue what's going on all information to gary has we don't have his information and gary's not giving it to us he didn't give us this information at first because gary knew i had the relationship would l a times so i feel to gary was worried about me a leak in his information to jesse a times because you know men jesse catch still had a relationship where we talk once in a while so gary didn't give it to us we start trial and in the middle of a trial my lawyer keeps running back and forth to gary gary's an audience so he's trying to cover all the shop you didn't know that he could only ask it while it was happening live so he would get the end tell and they couldn't exactly i mean he had to do it like that almost because i may have given it to jesse not know what's so amazing even right now today you know it's it baffles me that people don't notice like the cia admitted they got they got a report you can go to their web site the report is only a website and people don't know it other inspector general please continue so you know gary was asking about certain names enrique remuda s in bandung talks about well my boss goes on a fish and chip with george bush and when they come back they say he is justified and means and all this type of stuff but this stuff still not make  know to me it doesn't make any sense you know i don't know i mean i'm learning about the court system one i'm near but you know i'm not a lawyer just still an obvious you know this is a guy couldn't read you know two years ago i couldn't read so i'm still learning what's going on so in eventually finish try to get me to a life sentence in a couple months later gary story come out very sends me a copy i get a copy the day before it comes a call gary on the phone and then we start to talk and he starts to tell me you know about the cia been involved about the contras because you know i really didn't know what the contras was had no clue what the contras was and definitely did not know that they were backed by illiterate steel i'm still a little bit had never read a book all this stuff complex you're busy anyway coming out ronald reagan not defending him he did know it was george herbert walker bush running all that as well keeping it from him so if the president didn't know you can't blame me for not knowing ye so i'm still a novice to all the stuff that's going on but when it comes out gary runs down to me he starts to tell me and i'm like i just got gary he's up to so the next thing i know a couple days later a snap their fingers and got you out of here so yeah yeah really no but you know i wasn't cooperating with what they wanted me to to do so that's why you're you know a hero overall cause more and more you had a chance once that came out that it had been going on to throw gary webb out of the every little thing you know like living with a movie you know what you didn't like about the movie how did you like this in the end you know it's like hey it's the spirit that people have to respect i mean this guy stood up for justice he fel in to the military base you know that they were then delivered to you every way yeah and what i don't i don't i don't feel that way about myself but i feel that way about guys right now in prison because right now we have guys in prison has been in prison twenty five and thirty years never shot anybody never carried a gun only deal with sold a lot of drugs and got a lot of time in the studio right now today yeah for those that don't know they were the guns are down at the street level or dealers might get robbed or something up at the top of the bodyguards i mean were there my money and you know i was mean when are you going to do it again you know the guys who carry guns robbing people that's because they broke when you got play money no anyway you want to gun is a tech you money that's right that's what good guns are for is protecting your family and your money actor in an account of the real life events that happen in homes and a documentary in kill the messenger of the hit movie out about the late gary webb i want to hit this right now before we talk about what the cia said to you about your message to young people about where you see the country in the world going then one of the phones up because they'll ask a lot of questions that i didn't think to ask we're also going to send out a twitter hash tag show folks can respond just whatever they want to come up with task questions of rick ross who's in studio with us but in the few minutes we have before break rick we've talked a lot about this he was coming out with a new book he was talking to me he wasn't ready to come back on intelligent book came out he wanted me to put online bibliography up a bunch of documents he was talking about other people he was talking to you i talked to you right after they killed him or he committed suicide as they say in jail you didn't buy it he  told you they've been breaking his house he had to move they threaten him i like how the movie basically implies they killed him but it ends before they kill him this story him shoot himself twice in the head what did gary webb talk to you before he died and he talked to me about how he was he was very excited he had all the proof to back up what he said you know he told me he was going to keep going it was going to get to the bottom of it in that he was going to stop until he was done with it and he did tell me about a new book that he was working on and he acts me if i would be a part of that as well so i mean you know i was talking to kevin when kevin is one that told me about what happened to gary and i was like what i couldn't believe it in a rafter when i spoke to you you know and that's when you a you think they killed him i mean it looks like it to me i mean just just i'm not a forensic anything like that so i really can't say if it's possible that somebody could shoot himself in the head twice but it just seems to me that that a person could take a gun  he wants to get a hip hop but now it's a weapon and of course a lot of insiders a professor graff and others have documented that i've talked to famous people but i can't say their names multiple major rock n roll stars who were in the meetings at m t v where they said sorry rock n roll gone we're bringing in the hip hop gangster rap where weaponize and that's the word from the chiefs and boy they've done a job so that's coming out the next segment getting back to gary webb when you want to promote there hung out with a runner who also helped finance said that a great job knowing the story as good as i do i was really freaked out because it was so accurate obvious they couldn't show everything but it was a show and they really i think captured his spirit i really admire renner no i do too i do too and i met renner right at the end to screen that i had never met before but i spoke on the phone and to meet his wife and his kids in just a whole environment was like man everything to gary was was no one was still alive you know to know that he had and i wonder how it's so called that's why they had the killing because they tried to kill him in the media and then that didn't work so they just killed him you know the n s a the story i mean if it wasn't for the internet does story would have been dead you know from from the start but the thing about it was so good is that it was the first time a major newspaper had ever to release a story on a new phone in it so once it hit that internet you know it just started going from telling the person to person to person and you know another thing it was the first time that backs it ever really came out on the internet the way they did it really came out in iowa let's talk about that when we come back and then we'll get into the hip hop in your message to young people but we want to find those clips like we're a mike rupert confronts the cia director i'm actually in waters does you can find start talking about that so well you know he came south central because it was such an hour in south central l a you know blacks are mobilizing and they want it they want to something done you know they want to answer people hey kids in prison and i mean you know really devastated the black community you know we're right now we have six hundred thousand black men in prison for selling drugs you know biden's you know not rapes not not robberies just just drugs you know marijuana cocaine  and these people want to dance or they want to know why would a kid's taken away so long you know i have a body eleven friends has been in prison right now twenty six years from selling drugs twenty maybe even thirty some of them so people want answers  want to get into hip hop that you show a is the new crack cocaine epidemic culture war machine and i've got some amazing testimony i can give you on that exact fact backing up what you have to say tell folks w you told me off air well i'll believe that what they've done is they've taken hip hop and they made it can or used to be a drug dealer you know when i sold drugs i hear it i don't want to buy i know i sold drugs but now they've got these guys who've never s technically you know one guy was a correctional officer who goes by the name of rick ross now he took my whole identity and a court said he could do it and he could prance around the country and say that he's me and take my whole life when in use it and there was nothing i could do about i can't stop in even ruby are just like you everything so they take these guys and these guys say well i got to the position i'm in right now today by selling drugs kids is that if you go out you sell drugs and you can become a great rock star like myself and never go to prison and i think that that's a false messages to be given people  feel hopeless and notice they don't indict the people that are fake and claim all that you know they want them out there like a lantern fish has that light to get a little fish swam over so they can eat them exactly and that's what i believe i mean if i truth you know and let him know that technically he's never sold drugs and that he didn't get his money from selling drugs at universal giving the money to do the things that he's doing it is ok to admit did it that you never did it and not let our kids believe that they can go out and sail drugs and never pay a penalty for doing  does it make you angry to see him doing up well really the whole culture i mean i'm disappoint in the whole culture really not not really him because i don't think that he understands what he's doing  to him i believe that he's making a living and he's almost like i was when i sold drugs so he don't understand what you are actually doing it taking the risk he's out there shelling though even though these guys are fake gangsters they're always getting shot up and killed because real gangsters come after him or other people that think they're gangsters come after him it's totally sick it is it is but then you know you go to school and guess what you hear on the radio  to get in with my message than it is for them they'll pay these guys hundred thousand dollars a company or until the kids how much drugs they sold and how glorious it is a sale drugs and they don't want me on campus because you're going to tell them it's the government it'll ruin your life don't touch it and by the way you're going to prison forever if you don't and it's that message that will keep kids off drugs not the one of all it's sexy and fun and you want to get involved in this is how you really start in how to live your life it makes me sick and it will give you a job where you can get a job on a street oh i got a job for you in prison it's called a unicorn and you can make money prison money twenty five cents an hour clothes for you you have none to worry about any and then the good ole boys shit around you and i got hot tubs and cable on imprisoned a shame i don't work and then they wonder why their son or daughter can't get a job in a factory because the factories are all built on the side of the presence and start twenty five cents an hour yet in a choice you as much as fifty cent a minute for a phone call so you've got to work two hours to talk to your wife or your girlfriend your son or daughter for two minutes yes absolutely and then you know visits only that you visit twice a week it is such an evil plan and then you may be like i was you know where your family is in a and you got you in texarkana texas so you may only see a family once a year if you're lucky if you're lucky you'll hear about to cross thinking about all those kids get sucked in by those spiders run by universal all arrested i mean they're there they're upset of webs to catch kids and put them in that prison absolutely absolutely when you know they got what they call now i just spoke at a conference in san francisco they call it  that the biggest present operational world was financing shapira at the school and was they're admitting they're preparing those kids to go to prison that the whole thing is just an induction pipeline right into the prison is crazy i can't believe it i mean people stand around in and go for something like this in a can do it well there are people out professor griffin others that are exposing what's happening and hip hop yeah yeah i spoke to professor is griffin will pound on some things totally on the ground it's going to be up to us you know and the people in the streets like you know what you're doing right now i mean mainstream won't touch me they won't give me interview they won't talk to me a drug dealer in my studio never you're the real wreck ross and don't use drugs they've got the other rick ross running around making kids think it's sexy and i want him in the schools that's because the spiders want to get those kids will absolutely stay there i want to come back get in anything else  want to government take phone calls and i'll tell you my story about the inside had more i want to say about quote dumbing down it was describing it like well i guess training wheels on the kids riding the president get more into that wreck roger talk about hip hop and how they program the kids on how they're supposed to act well you know like myself alex they made me believe that that i was dumb did i couldn't read and you know people ask me all the time who was it was it my mom who didn't teach me how to read was a disco well i don't really know what i do know is that i had come up with a mentality about myself that if i was dumb that i was stupid then i should be was at the end at  was when i looked around from a prison cell and i started to look at all my friends that they all thought the same way and it was this program aimed at put us in this position that dealing drugs in gang banging was easy for us to accept and i believe that hip hop is doing that right now but on a more massive scale the kids now in a way pants like we used to they talk mean i mean they must be really proud of of of the masterful job they've done and now they're deploying that hip hop culture into everything it's just it's just it's taking over oh absolutely endorsements i mean big big companies you know companies that wouldn't touch that type of lifestyle before you know it is all over let i want to have kids were in sports jackets and doing well and you've got a future in your vet now your crap and now the rock n roll music so are all dead we have no future humans are cried they need us to feel bad you know i couldn't read but i eventually started doing you know i found an issue that eventually helped me get out of prison so you know i wrote a book now in a couple when you're here warning people about drugs right now absolutely and that's what matters is you've changed you understand what you did wrong and that's more valuable than somebody that everyone went to the trials tribulations you're a veteran a veteran of this tearing me and you're here seeing through the matrix now that's a beautiful thing it's like crisis on the cross and he's there  safe and everything and the thief apologizes except that his heart's right and cry says tonight he'll be with me in paradise but the soldiers are by they just went along with it yeah they think they're winners in this world they're not absolutely well we've got to warn the young people to never use drugs the first time i mean marijuana is a gateway but that doesn't mean we shouldn't criminalize it just so they can throw you in jail but the whole drug culture is ruin people and the prescription drugs are pushing on kids and the schools are worse than the illegal drugs and just stay away from them and realize you're nonempty if you get bad grades and it's a got to go to the dark side you're not empty just because you have a bunch of money you can paint you can do music you can go out and help people you can eat that's what's going to empower you is going out standing up to bullies not just feeling bad because you don't live like people on television we all can't be on television it is crazy that they tell us that you know if you don't have a pair of jordan's dead you're not special well i mean i was happy before i had all this responsibility was quote on radio and t v and barely had mine about three pairs of shoes a year you know that was rich compared to poor people i mean i was totally happy i was thinking back to the years when i was you know out of high school and stuff and parents were giving me no help because i didn't ask for it really and i was so poor it was the happiest time of my life that all these responsibilities and the rest of it and i'm not saying people should become successful it's just that what matters is that you're a good person that's the real value it is it is and that you care about others because when you don't care about other people in i believe you do worse in a lot of people that is empowering i don't care about anything but you dollars you know i tell you enjoy hurting people yeah i mean it's a diabolical plan to ship heroin and to get millions of americans addicted from the fifty's on and then to bring in cocaine weaponized that is crack which is a cia recipe that was  deploy it right in the black neighborhoods i mean that's a nasty thing to do it is absolutely to a people that doesn't have this hopeless then this shell of a thug culture because let me tell you you know i'm downtown austin and there's you know as i call him black klan members whatever just black thug culture there's white that culture as well but they've been told it's ok to hate white people i mean it's you know it's but i don't i see the plan though i see the whole programming to make them like that and to make them hate me and then i realize how it's all to pottery in crack or identical drugs except one is smokable and one is not smokable so but a year ago they changed eighteen and one but they should have made eighteen the one in initiative may retroactive you know see if a guy's been in jail twenty five or thirty years but if it was eighteen to one he would only got five years in prison so they would hold him some time he would be released the motto only agree of your nonviolent you should be released period because the government shipped him to begin with  like if you're judge was the guy that shot told you the cocaine and then now he's presiding over sitting in a jail for life if that's what it is it be like if hitler ran the nuremberg trials i mean it's just it's folks they all say that they've heard the same stories and some of the memos have come out about the cia behind rock n roll to create the revolutions you know behind bringing l s d and that's pretty classified but in the early ninety's they said look rock's going to be dead get ready we're going to bring in hip hop and we're going against horizon this is from the guys upstairs the government wants this sumner redstone and viacom has been ordered to do this and big managers and people were all brought in and they said you better start flipping to this that's why i saw a lot of heavy metal guys start doing rap albums and you know you know getting other folks in with them and things because they were told we're going to play these on the record and we're going to put this on the air and then i talk about my personal self i experimented here and there once or twice with hard drugs always had such horrible hangovers that i being a meth and fed him a couple times cocaine a few times i'm on record about that i just didn't like it yet i've always been a nicotine alcohol type guy and that have transcended pretty much as well but his folks that are seen more as always get back on cigarettes when i do but long story short share of the border who later got busted he was fine drugs into the rock hall airport we live in the richest county in texas right outside dallas rock on a lake and i would be at a fluent peoples houses for a party when their parents are out of town the cheerleader down the streets having a party all fourteen year olds are over there and then there be sixteen year olds nineteen year olds come over wild parties pull parties and the police car would pull up and then they'd come in to go we got flooding it with drugs and they would want to search my car and i go man i saw you two years ago deliver drugs beat me up take you to jail threaten to hang me told my dad's lawyer move out of we're going to kill him basically yeah and a couple years we moved out and a lot of the feds came in and busted him but again that's the big drug dealer bust the little drug dealer you know you know that's why they don't like you alice because you know you go keep it one hundred you know let them know exactly what's going on well i want to say that about the cops dealing drugs till they want to search me and drive and were going to a party and they're like all right i got your minor possession i was just like your drug dealer almost like the fox wants an in house well yeah it's like you're a drug dealer you're going to give me a ticket take my beer those because that the operative that he was was a supplier from the air force base hadn't told him that so i don't mean to answer his question for you but yeah i mean what motivated you to deal drugs i think you said that money privately money yeah  i was tired of my mom struggling in not having food a new refrigerator you know there's been days that me and my brothers and sisters woke up and i was not in any heat i've got a question to ask you thank you caller i appreciate i'm trying to be mean you just answered that  what does your mother think like that scarface story what does your mother think when suddenly you have all this money but you know my mom put me out of the house when she first found out i was dealing drugs you know my mom was die once you start to do that then you can start attacking me because people are dumb in remember how i was i was dumb into it you know i never read a book you know never heard and if you nothing i don't know anything so anything that somebody government brings in the drugs here's the biggest present his book where he had met shit and when you're old enough to read it and i mean and i just thought everybody knew this stuff and then there were the police dealing drugs like my dad saddened and then i've had serco on i think about his story you know they just police shot him in the face yeah i mean because he didn't want to deal drugs i mean that he said the entire new york narcotics department and we're all doing drugs i said how what percentage he said one hundred percent so maybe you're that got to reach out to the family have you talked to him since the movie premiere i spoke to no not since the i spoke to the wife at ed link you know we talked for about fifteen minutes because a first time that we had time to sit and talk out of outside of prison when i was in prison i stuff on an internet site and i was like oh ok but and then he was like he did really cuss lobbies like damn it when you're ready to do something about this you give me a call bang i'm sure somebody probably got those notes now and i'd be surprised if his wife still has that stuff but he was passionate i mean he was telling me you need to you need to get on without a doubt i mean gary was he was well into the emmy gary told me before that people have died for going down this road you know i mean he's like a wick when you got on the street here you know i gotta know going down the drug street selling drugs you could get know if you wasn't inside you really didn't know what i was doing you know exactly all these fake rappers say run around and show your wealth off you're going to get arrested in ten minutes acting like that and yeah yeah i mean real drug dealers folks real mob chiefs and people are living in small houses in gated communities keeping their head down you nobody nobody if you don't know me you know i was rich i mean my family day starts you noted at the end they didn't know how rich i was they knew i was wealthy didn't when they called me for rent money in repossession money to get a car back that i could do that but they didn't know that i was making you know three million dollars a day in struthers i was telling they didn't understand it so to general public didn't know band on knew him but everybody else didn't really know so and i love how they came back to burn you later there's a toddler stanch that was really crazy to me you know how they would take the guy that was supplying all the drugs you know michael said it in the movie i mean it was one of ours that i really liked about my and then the needle was santa claus and i was exactly exactly boys thank you caller great caution rob who was in a store one of i think was rob to tell me about i saw the report they did and they have a who's the mass dealer breaking bad number one show for a while and i never really watched it and i had a  because i knew and of course it made meth get even more popular absolutely you know to show a guided breaks bad in everybody except in the end he gets an egg i think that show got so many awards it was crazy but that's the same thing that happened with me with super