israel i surpassed in number size and sophistication of its nukes countries like britain france and china doctor even him so he joins me we revisit the sampson option of that he was going to be humiliated so he was willing to kill himself along with everybody else in the in the process take it was humiliating as with him now can there be any doubt for viewers that israel is a nuclear power you have the u two flights photographing that the mona nuclear reactor and this goes back to the fifty's that's actually from the fifty's yeah i'm talking about then then you have t were shocking according to her son his book intel types thought that israel only out of maybe a few dozen but he revealed that they had a couple hundred and they come by to do five or ten  reactor kennedy wanted nonproliferation of nukes and he especially wanted nonproliferation in the hands of israeli jews because of what it would mean to the arab world that region but he was never successful that even since then israel is enjoyed a free ride as a nuclear rogue state you get country like the united states allowing itself to be exploited to that level american jews it even possible for israel to get nuclear weapons without american complicity when you have scientists heat in america working on their medicare nuclear program you have medicare and nuclear commission head  became from the united states including the money american jews behind the fund raising for the dimona project were that something special was as they were calling it the same yeah so quite a bit of the money naturally came from rich big money making machines for both of them is on it again this is against the non stated nonproliferation policies of the united states which kennedy was trying to enforce but wasn't successful because of the money and the choke hold that even then they had the material from the united states to to israel but then left out on canvas like south africa gave them some material as well because south africa was under the sanctions and that they had this relationship with israel that they would give them material and that this thing and stuff like that and then isn't it and will act as a conduit for some commission activity for south africa to go out on the sanctions  israel they're playing that role that it played later in the iran contra you know will circumvent you know sanctions on this country i think if they have morning come when they're just being appetite steve thank god that south to be applied to israel in order to teach it how to behave itself the name jonathan pollard probably has been heard by many americans it comes up a lot it certainly comes up and seymour hersh's book the samson option you want to this what he was doing a favor to israel and that makes him a hero in that i is and this points out the fact that it was brought out by seymour hersh in the book the sampson option and that you know israel has friends throughout the state department he could have extended estimate of israel's arsenal of nuclear weapons of mass destruction to the all the minimum now is the hundred and fifty five the jimmy carter era said without would that wasn't i think it two thousand and six or something like that and i would imagine that like three four hundred maybe five on the nuclear weapons they can do there to put a serious wall up of europe the heart when a russian and you think maybe someday the united states isn't actually a nucle thousand i have a report here israel a test launched from a summary of a cruise missile from it hit a target nine hundred fifty miles away when is there any was thinking about hitting it on israel's took out the syrian reactor in two thousand and seven it was called operation orchard or something it was reported that it was a five hundred pound bomb but it was huge some speculation that it might have been a small nuke but it doesn't  iraqi nuclear reactor which was being built with the help of from the french ironically in really any review of israel since it's had its nukes kind of reinforces this idea of aggressor posture now that you are in possession of new european aggressor we've seen the one thousand nine hundred one invasion of lebanon twenty thousand mostly civilians were slaughtered as ariel india team together and take out pakistan obviously after the muslims there there isn't any sort of fair to the nuclear weapons of pakistan as the islamic bomb and it's actually causing them quite a bit of distress that also there is a s an option of the option to annihilate yourself and your opponent but it actually gives you this bailed threat opportunity where you can get away with things you have his umbrell fly everybody else and somehow like put them in a position where there is nothing they can do about israel so might as we'll submit to it can we say that nukes explains why israel acts with such impunity and does such terrible things because it really can get away with it look at look at how is it in this so i get a sieve about that thinking of the iranian nuclear program which is actually a peaceful broken arm is not designed to carry it because it was an anything and in fact the iran is a member of the lung proliferation treaty unlike isn't it were never accepted to all been its facilities for international inspection and the whole idea is to make sure that nobody else in the middle east with have nuclear weapons so that isn't any continues to dictate what the what it wants in the middle east a lot a lot of the scholars on nuclear strategy and tactics bring up the term useful versus usable can you go into bed a little bit on israel with its arsenal nuclear weaponry how useful and how usable or they when they are a definitely useful because they give them that position of power that they can accept or not accept what the wall of the stilling them and then if they let the states forces them to the something the owner was a wave the flag people call it no no there are many new works that could actually cause quite a bit of local damage without causing it when you clear when you're talking about land lines you're talking when you say mini nukes you're talking about or tillery  they have this psychology or psyche of thinking that they are above the rest of the world so there's nothing that wholesome and jack they are never going to actually stop on their own the whole world little have to come together and use effective we see a great example of the problem with the parker see that out of one point five billion muslims in the world at that they are witnessing the double standard of how israel that has nuclear weapons is getting away going to redraw the map in the middle east it can get away with it nothing can stop it nobody intervenes when it slaughters twenty thousand civilians as it did in lebanon or the fourteen hundred not that long ago in g generals seizing is really nuclear arsenal and going nowhere that cannot be ruled out it's really palpable especially if you consider the revelations that have come out of max blumenthal's book and goliath just how slanting towards the radical israel is so we have to give some credibility what israel shock is saying that there could be a coup in israel when you have people who think of themselves as chosen and above the rest of the wall at the end of the rest of the all of those they have to set of them then you really have a formula over this us that they have adopted rationally adopted a policy of irrationality which makes them  crazy how can we do you deal with a country that is committed to rationality how can we sanction them even without tipping them over when will you when you have a person who is a mentally crazy you money that's being put in the political system because that's actually allowing some will feed people including wolf is used to literally by the system again bravo for bringing that up because i've heard a pack analog a lobby group to the bloods in the crips just being a boys club it's time we really take a hard look at apac and the people who are part of it because it's looking ever more s and you know we were in a pickle here absolutely dr uber him sooty i want to thank you very very much for this lively discussion let's hope that despite israel's sampson option that there is some reason to pressure we can put on them so that we can stabilize them that he's otherwise we know that every every arab nation will have to seek for its own defense a nuclear arsenal as well bill is only as good to talk to