to education this show is about lifelong learning teaching and mentoring with very special guest today i'm working with reverend robert make knight who is the host for the shows that we have with education in our community and our special guest today is mr roy clay mr clay has an extensive background where he was the city council person and also the vice mayor of the city of palo alto california and i understand you live in oakland at the present time thank you for coming to oakland oakland is a stranger's paradise i had heard another line that says oakland is a place to lose the blues that's a show a television show that's been going on for twenty two years and it really is celebrates the positive movers and shakers and image makers and what i have heard about you and looked on the internet and discovered about you that you have been making things happen from the very beginning as it relates to technology revenue big night and i have the privilege of working with you today to let people know of the history makers that are here in the bay i was going to go to college so i didn't know what it was and then my mother would have me visit my older sister's college in  a midnight this is amazing to hear because you would think that if was working that this would not have happened but you were sitting down yes isn't that something yes this happened all over the country and so they had to verify where he was coming from before they would allow him to leave where he was coming from and you were with him i was with him in the our eyes and so they then with that as the opening up to your experiences and then your mother and her you know her indicating that you should not let that keep you from being the very best that you could be did you find that you had to go over that again in your life just repeatedly was that over well no it continues it continues oh it does that is i learned that wherever i want i had to be as good as i could be and facts i was talking to believe that i had to be better to be considered equal yes yes yes and i i went through my first college integrated express was at st louis university and i i thought i could be as good as anybody a fifty that's correct and the reason that computers in the fifty's were used by various industries and they were a computer that would have the capability you could just computer now would we looked at the various things that could be done we never considered what might be done in space we never thought about going into space because yes the computer needed to operate develop a computer that would enable packet instrumentation to access data choir data and to send it back so that you could operate impress the company was very successful i was doing something that even though they were not building computers that they were successful so successful what they did at the whatever they built somebody would look at that and then you received no credit no and no money no now i left a well i but how could they have the power to do that well because they bought it five inches tall david packard to six feet tall five at the time he got i was sure as a young man you got the wrong attitude if you brought us into this business it is your elevator i can now hold my hero up a little higher no matter if by the only african american in the city when i get on the elevator i know there's a black man in the elevator  into education in our community this show is about lifelong learning teaching and mentoring reverend robert blake knight is our host today and i'm a co host with him and our special guest is mr roy l clay and he was going to he was in the process of sharing with us on part one of the same show the us something about his career when he was working with hewlett packard packard and the evolution of his contribution to technology i believe it was in the computer and we wanted to make sure that we heard the success story part of it are the rest of the story i reckon with my would you introduce the get us back on track again and the time i had become general manager of the computer division they say i was not a computer activity and bill came to my office and  increased number of stop options about computers and i knew that i knew more than anybody had h p but that was the reason why he didn't want me in that position and when my mother told me that if you're the best you ought to be considered for that and i met i remember when when that company had that and he remember him that just do the things that you know how to do well and the best of all alternatives to do things not only can you do well but also that you like to do that  m when they decided to develop the personal computer and nobody knew that in fact  did not want that publicise that he made that kept quiet and i happened to know find out about them by pure coincidence but what they were purchase personal computer that they don't they had raw talent to make it not too big to get that computer into the market price they had to make that underwriters laboratories required that after manufacturing was complete state publicized user apple computer that was electrocuted by using them not more than three weeks ago well just recently yeah very recently and i talked to apple and that should mean that they are the person who was using the the computer and unless you could it we got a not a learned how to do something well and the just turned eighty four last week and i'm trying to determine what i want to do when i built my grow up years so that when you know that when you were working on the computer and all of that what was what did you like done great thing has conceived what what he or she wants to do and how to make it happen and who are you doing it for why you do it i think of george washington carver also because  persistent and he had he was the flowers of plants making them grow and he was just focused very focused and enjoyed what he was doing at a passion at a time when and somehow it gets done and it's nice when it's done easily but i'm thinking you had obstruction a little bit at least for obstruction well that came along yeah th disrespected and george washington carver was brought to congress to speak and when he was there they went ahead and they were so late that they went into the in part of the day and then they were only giving him fifteen minutes to speak but the support that i got my family the neighborhood where i was reared and their support that i got from my wife ten and i want to share with you at the conclusion of this program google the name roe i l clay and find out who's in that computer that you are now working on thank you so much for being a part of education in our community i'm till next time this is reverend robert mcknight