which is with john watching that which is presented by m s i the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to awakening the spiritual heart within each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual advisor of n s a the founder and president of the institute for individual and world peace founder of the heartfelt foundation and other organizations dedicated to improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and he has been teaching and conducting seminars for many years right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about  as i have a few premises that i work by one as if i can have fun doing this i don't want to do it in tune as if you don't have fun with me i don't want you to do it either and if you don't want it with me there i don't want you here but we don't want you to go so everybody has to have fun now fun isn't necessarily mean go crazy the only way you're going to be able to get anything out of this is just to pretend like i know what i'm talking about in so i'm going to explain why things happen the way they do and i know you've read all the philosophers books not the world and they gave you a philosophy as to why it happened that way and you read all the books and you didn't believe it and i didn't either so i decided i would go find out now what we teach there is a very simple thing is just  travel i sometimes you for it to myself as a travel agent there's more to that joke than meets the year but what we actually do is transcend the soul because actually most everyone console travel now i'm sure everyone this group are sophisticated enough to hear heard of the word astral travel let me draw a little diagram for enough flip the page so you can understand what i'm talking about and i'm going to do this from the bottom up so that you can get an idea of what i'm talking about where we are right now you won't mind my back a little bit will you and i'm going to be saying this is i go along because you're on a slant and this physical world is a world that can be seen touched smelt felt in terms of reaching out right above that is another world that's rather invisible in terms of the material world and we call that the astral and you can play along with these words and get a lot of strange things out of if you don't watch how you pronounce them it is a matter of fact the more crazy arthur pronunciation of the word the more accurate you are  exists and that level this level here would equate with the imagination thought or idea put it in a form and put it inside every one of us when we close our eyes we go immediately into the astral level i go like this i'm immediately in the astr level talking to you into the physical level it takes place automatically lot of people don't know that now i am really doing very simplified approach on this because it's extremely the word karma is probably a sanskrit term that's come from eastern philosophy the equivalent in judeo christian philosophies as you so so you reap but that gets a long word to start spelling when you have limited space i just belive that karma it works two ways is called action or inaction or the ability to have action i say two is three ways this is probably the most terrible one we have to deal with another word for it is called emotion it's not just right that above here now emotions are often what you call your feelings but emotions is actually a contraction of words meaning energy emotion so when we're have them emotions aside of us were actually having energy moving through us the difficulty of that is sometimes we don't like that right above this would be the mental and sometimes we referred to this is the mind area one guy sa that the brain i said no the brain is an organ that is association the combined and lot of people doing brain mind studies the mind is outside of the brain the brain is the something the routs this theory here people think would be real important the mental area probably another word to put on this would be intellectual so i'll write that above i'm not using the word intelligence intellectual and i'm going to find that for you as what we get out here in the world from the books in our teachers we put in we memorize it we put it back out to our mouth to their ears to their head and then they say yes or no or we put down paper and it goes to their hands their eyes back their head back down the paper yes or no and back to you that's the intellect the soul is the intelligence it's just no you don't  use anything other than the physical right now and intelligence to know that you're sitting in a chair if you don't have to do astral cause or mental or intellectual you can just know it but you may not know a lot of things about about the sitting in the chair because you're not focused on it then there's another level up here that is called the theory some metaphysical groups refer to the body and then they call it a theory double as though it's another body that that hangs around it there is one and i'm not referring to that i call that the body double or the body imagery or the body mirror so that people get the idea that it does look like your physical body sometimes got a little grey film around the body and you can see it around people in if you're seeing colors in it an energy moving around it you're seeing another energy field this book called the aura which means color this  theory another word for is just the unconscious one of you see here by the time i got unconscious bill i'd been doing that thing called plan ahead for comes down the side of the board but as long as you get the idea right above this unconscious means no awareness that it's there now human beings have developed with all of this ability an extremely powerful ability to hallucinate in the end conscious and i know your psychiatrist knew probably dealt with these ideas before now when we are in the astral level we have fantasies or daydreams probably the daydreams be stuck right in here between the astral in the cars or in the physical would be daydreams where the child goes to school and they're off daydreaming about something or the teacher says quit your daydreaming and get back to class that teacher doesn't know what's  daydreaming is one of the most profound experiences we can have to get away from things that are around pleasant einstein daydream edison daydream everybody daydreams what we call it when we're  dog preoccupation now let's just see how honest this group is while i've been talking up here how many of you have gone away and thought of something else even just first second and came back in kids daydreaming and adults preoccupation with something really need about daydreaming if you go and do your day dream you will be a happier more fulfilled person and if you can handle your preoccupation either go do it if it's mines bora bora in tahiti so i get down there every once in a while while i'm there i don't have any preoccupations i don't think of the united states or  anything it's just there it is me in the fish and snorkeling and getting caught up on the coral was riding on a boat out there i was all showered and dressed up to go to dinner john here everybody should know who this is where all the people the world this is this is john this is the one who sunk the boat there is i've been out all day long i was tired and they said go for a ride and i said all wonderful go for a ride yeah because i would be a little preoccupied with it we need to get out there and watch the sunset and so we got out there and as we're going travelling along john in front i'm the million it's very pleasant and you can look down the roof far in the water just clear fish that are probably that big look this big because they're so far down as we're going down there mind my business and i'm leaning back watching for the sunset john my face for a guide says oh look at the orange fish and he said look at the orange fish he didn't look on the side with the outrigger was had been safe but that  i know in his mind in his will in his way he saw an orange fish if you believe that he also saw forty two octopus when they go to put things on your head and you ask if they're going to what they're going to say let's take a second you know you're going to shock treatments tell me it was an orange fish you give it up just give it up real fast in this area that's the daydreaming  d four and preoccupation with p t o if you can't actually do the thing that is preoccupying you you become present and all of these levels come present at exactly the same time at that moment there is such a sense of phone a society of you now there's one time that this will happen with most all people who are married having conjugal relationships that all of these things come present one time and that is at the moment that the partners climax together in the connubial relationship called sexual intercourse at that moment it brings all levels of consciousness together at one point that's why people are really caught up in having sexual intercourse because it isn't the sex that does it it's coming together all at one point like and you go my god that's fantastic folks it can be just as fantastic without doing with anybody else just bringing all the level you know there's just there's two things that can be said about masturbation that one is you don't have to look your best and the other one is you can practice to get it ri another man other than that let me tell you spiritually it is a waste of your energy and so it would be far better for it not to do it your go say well what happens if it just happens and voluntarily well i taught school for a good many years and i'd catch kids cheating and i say you're cheating they said no it was my i just went over there i didn't have a thing to do about my i just went over there i said your eyes just jumped out walked over looked at the paper came back you'd have to do with it go right and they have stuff in on the hands and i say you know you're looking at your hand you have something written on it i don't it wasn't me as my pen put it on there i didn't have a thing to do with it i have never heard such innocence out of such cheaters so when people go to say something like this what they're saying is i don't have any control or authority over my life as a human being that's nonsense we have a certain amount you say we have total we don't if we did would have everything we've always wanted but we have enough in this level right here this cause a level is the big cause that comes back into the physical to causes disturbances it goes like this honey would you like to go the movie tonight i don't feel like it that's the causal level i don't feel like what they're really saying is i'm much more preoccupied with staying home and being with you and being close and being intimate and just been loving with you but what they say is i don't feel like well later on when the husband and the wife don't go to the movie then she says should we go to bed early and watch t v and he says no i think i'll sit in the dan and watch t v for i want to watch a football game he knows why she didn't want to go to the show now she knows why he doesn't want to come to bed all of this action comes right out of this level here it's called getting even now i don't know if you know that but revenge can be sweet vindictive is a terrible atrocity to do with yourself and others but revenge is when you're getting even somebody does something and you come back with a real sharp one and you laugh and you have a lot of fun together vindictiveness when you plan  complot all along of how you going to get them and revenge is when the opportunity comes up and you take it like i had it here with johnny that was my revenge is complete it's all over maybe a purple fish i don't care but it's on ta goldfish orange orange come to think about i did see that fish in that or some was doing a real strong thought projection thought projections come out of this area here of the mental we've been taught for a long time by people who are in behavioristic psychology called studying rats that grew up in the field but we've ample proof now that the human being is both a sending and receiving instrument not only to self to others but to the cosmic and to the universe and to the invisible we're really tuned in now for tuned in why as we're not getting to know what we want to know this area right here call emotions is the biggest block right there just the feeling level itself can do so much somebody says something to you don't like it so you feel like well i won't talk to them so you withhold yourself inside and you don't talk to him and pretty soon you start withholding your body from them by not being around them and withhold giving information to them so they don't know what's going on with holding to me contrary to a lot of popular belief as the foremost spiritual  we can do to each other to know something the other person should know and not let them know not later on when it's too late immediately that's called communication every organization has in it at least one person who will attempt to sabotage the organization could be a family the entire organization by withholding pertinent information until either a crucial time which is called management by crisis or they hold until it's too late it's called management by default when that starts to take place it's really time to isolate the individual and let them know if it's in business before the business collapses you will be fired first you're going to go first in the family for the child and the causing havoc between parents mother and father should get together say before we get divorced you're going to go to the orphanage home because you're not going to do this and walk away we all have our little idiosyncrasies inside of us where we think because we think something it's so that's the intellect here this is it the big gold star here if i think it it's so nonsense wing think a lot of things are absolutely in error almost all of the time you like an example people go to  singles bars i call in museums i mean because they stay stand around looking across the space at each other and they've got a drink in one hand a cigarette in the other they're watching and they're thinking i would like to take and i'll do it from a man's point of view and you feminists can do it from a female point of view instead of me saying it looks at it because it makes it more difficult to stand a guy take her home that's probably the nicest thing here tonight but she with anyway she's over on the other side stand over there with a drink in one hand a cigarette no other i don't know why they do that unless it's to keep their hands occupied so they won't grab each other i mean it's kind of obvious when you've got a drink in cigarette to go after somebody that's clumsy and looks on manager doesn't she's there thinking gee what a nice looking man i would like to meet him and get to know him but he probably wouldn't like me and after all he's probably wait for somebody else and now he's probably wait for some girl to come in here and he just bide his time but gee if he would just give me i should like to buy i don't know how to do this to a bamaga how do i get his attention and he's over on the other side saying gee she doesn't want to think to do with me really now they're both just doing let's pretend that i know what the other person's thinking called mind reading or projection and the matter of fact if it is if we just sit down walked over to her and said do you think you'd like to have a drink with me or you're with somebody else her answer probably be like have a drink with you and i thought you'd never ask why didn't she asked two hours ago i'm so tired of stand over here god i mean you're the one the slowest guys around walk out the door have seen it happen i used to go to museums look around to get this information you understand how we will play the game in ourself this area here become self talk this intellectual mental area in the mine reasoning just a fine why how come it's all taking place as a matter of fact most of the time here's the bad news it's not taking place comically here's the good news it's not taking place now it's it's bad news of us not taking place up here and down here it might be good news if it's not taking place because this area here is where we build up our attachment to the material world and boy do we get attached to the material world can you imagine people letting and i know some of you smoke and drink in here so this will sound like an attack and it is but it's not with hostility it's with undue loving your little tiny object about that long run your life now i know what that's like because when i was taken degree in psychology i'd have a cigarette on one hand and a glass a cup of coffee in the other hand and after you've been in some of psychology department problem and then they said ok here's your degree and i can left but i don't want to be to know that this thing you do is so terrible you know what mine was starting to many things and not finishing on them and they keep saying well i'm going to do that later later later later i had about fourteen later is out there they were all coming to a point in time where if i didn't get them done it was going to look real bad for me and i didn't want look real bad for me so i would lie about my later years and have more the door and i go like this and then you're talking to people gone like this they say what are you doing some look for cigarettes we call the nikki fit grab and one day i was smoking a cigarette it was down to the end the star bring my finger and i was going to cut that's burning my finger i'm and i realized my hand was numb not only that i was shaking so bad with the other the coffee was going over and it was hot and it was burning my now i didn't put cream and sugar in because i didn't have a degree for chemistry just black i know you see high reason that we're not real good foreign stimulate the liver keep things going keep the everything going up and also this type of insight where you go aha ah if they were told me what was happening i said oh sure you're just saying that what they were saying that because i happen to be true but it wasn't true for me until it was true for me so i took the cigarette and i just dumped the coffee and put it down and i remember it was marlboro crush proof box and recent my pocket and i pulled it out and i said m crush proof box i know it's not crush proof they probably lied about a bunch of other things and i threw them away i mean when you reach that place where you're sick and tired of being tired and sick and you change you don't have withdrawal all sudden just cleared you come real clear inside i happened at that point integrate a lot of me at one point integrated but i have real high hand coordination and people have high hand coordination i've got to do something with their hands so the next things start this by fingernails and hangnails and tapping on stuff and just anything that's tapping pim has tak then i got good i moved to dimes i started to a fifty cent pieces because you're clumsy it takes a little but when you get down to dimes folks you try it you're going to find out oh boy you won't really know talent i can't do it now because  what just showed there's how the body is put together in the in the physical and the invisible how it functions through all that has taken me twenty years lecturing this is a two thousand three hundred ninety ninth lecture tonight about this yeah it's a pneumonic device to memorize over here is what's been referred to in a lot of groups as i am we call in our awareness movement we put the soul appears call the spiritual inner awareness movement and that's what we're doing here is just moving the spiritual inner awareness through the levels of consciousness when we feel like it when we feel it when i feel like it i move it most people are running victim consciousness it's called look what's happening to me it's terrible when am i going to get mine well the question is when you going to go out so you can get yours if you withhold yourself from your life and this is where it gets in the more serious thing this area here we would call life as we know it in this physical body this is the life outside of this there is another existence that is independent of us and this existence over here that's invisible actually makes up two we got a third here a third here in the third here and we're putting all of our energy in the slower third disregarding the other two thirds and the other two thirds is where the key to success is found but if you forget this third if you forget it you pay the price is called tuberculosis cancer let's just call them dennis e s if you forget this but the body itself is inherently capable of maintaining and healing itself is the mechanism has been in bit god was in a dummy he fit he fixed it up real good and i don't know if you know but when we were made we were made out of second hand stuff we are made of prime material and when he made us he didn't use up everything in left a lot over so there's a lot of info energy left over here that we just call the spirit  that spirit pervades all of existence physicists look at this widget i've got here and through their method investigation they'll say there's more spaces in there than there is solid you go that's crazy you know because i can hold space it can hold air they say yes but you see they're looking at a level that is invisible to the physical ability to see but they prove it time and time again because of the way they take their information and do other things in the physical world with it we go how on earth could they have done this over here from this here well that's the built in the training they've on you do anything else and just some are still doing  but don't give me the mentalizing where we just go repetitively over and over but we can take that repetitive ability and build into it step by step affirmation of how we want our behavior managed most of us have a degree called management we are to manage our body our emotions our mind and people will not manage their emotions during see people get mad and just yell and scream somebody because somebody is not doing what they want them to do what the person is doing what they're doing is just doing what they're doing but the one who's yelling and screaming is not managing their emotions their emotions is running them like the cigarette was running me in the coffee was running me until i started managing my physical body and what i started to take into it then i was being managed by it some people get anxiety depression because they won't manage their emotions they say all it's ok if i go ahead and do this we go watch it every time you do that you end up depressed or full of anxiety well i got this urge control the urge this time know i control it next time no this time they go why because this is the moment where you have the challenge i quit smoking one hundred times after a cigarette but never just before the next one the time you quit is just before the next one if you want to lose weight that way you lose weight is not on the last meal you ate that you're finished with it's the next fall that's going to go in your mouth that's when you start managing weight control if you get this how simple it is some people have time to mouth opens it's like their elbows connected to their mouth and then we go way that maybe you don't have to open your mouth in fact if you want to cure yourself reading put a mirror front of you and watch yourself as you eat you get so disgusted you quit or fish stick more in the next thing will be soggy bread wogs i don't know if you knew that but when you're out in a restaurant somebody has got to walk on them you can spend all afternoon trying to get them to take it off they could go like this walk there or something like this let's see it's amazing called you are participating in your life with the other person and the other person is pretty they're participating in your life with their eyes and their anxiety called do i tell them what's on their face spite he just sit and balance that thing clicked right off the slick as a whistle i've been going to do that since but i've never had the nerve but i do know this if we see it real clear in our mind real clear in absolute detail we can bring it about in the physical world the first time maybe clumsy people in this world do not want to make mistakes folks you are a mistake we are i mean we're supposed to come down here and do this  well ribs are cheaper than the whole thing now we know that's true don't we you have to seen that to have really gotten fired if i were if i were an archie bunker i'd really  lot of things about that how many here do read the bible how many read the bible do you know that what you should it's good literature even if you don't care for the story line it's good literature did you know the bible talks about baseball if you don't enjoy reading the bible find out what's hidden in there say i'm just tell you it's a lot of fun all of us just a lot of fun with that fun comes the unifying of the consciousness all of this comes together it just comes together how folks i don't know how far i would just have come together but i know that you all can make it come to get you all were how far south are we each one of you can make it come together given moment and every given moment when we think we've got to pop the pill snuff the coke smoked marijuana whatever any of those things are at the moment that comes in your mind is the moment decision has to be made and you manage your mind how have you ever saw the movie called fatso where the who or dom de luise was was eating and he was very heavy set and his brother was put his plate to the on the table says you don't know how to run your plate and amaze me that you that he had it down how to manage the food to get it his body so he could get more in there that's managing from the outside in we're go have difficulty whenever we try to manage from the outside in if we take an read a recipe out there about a cake we don't get to eat the food off reading the recipe we can read a water thirst to death but if we go and take it from inside then we get to create out there what it is we really want and we have the ability of creation in us we have the ability of creation the interesting thing tonight in the entertainment section we have a lot of poetry and i don't know if you know what poetry if you're right handed meaning the left side your brain is control is a right hemisphere activity if your right handed and your right eye the left side the brain is controlling if your left handed and your left side the right side the brain is controlling either way when you read poetry it opens up the other side the brain starts activating it because of the nature of poetry when you sit and listen to some people go out like poetry let me have my gun to shoot somebody go maybe it's over here and you pull it off and there it is and somebody goes how did you know that was under there and the answer is i just knew and we say you can't just know yes you can just know we do it approach and the taste something you can change over the brain hemispheres by how you breathe through your nostrils just breathing just switching back and forth in the brain will start to switch over the first few times you do it you go around talking like a chicken and somebody tells you no you're really out of it so after that you learned to do it in private now if you do that a whole lot you can get a headache for is should know that so take a couple excedrin and then start i know it sounds crazy but that's called managerial not management i would suggest a doctor to get a headache but to practice doing it as a matter of fact the when you breathe through the right nostril it actually goes back up into the right side of the brain and affects the right side of the brain it doesn't cross over here the globe l a as the eyes do from the you always knew this cat five ten thousand years ago even though the bible says it didn't start them sorry you know they got record written and they dated it then and just learning to breathe through that what's funny is in our nature in our body knows will switch back and forth unless you've got pathology normally formally you want to dream if you're right handed and you sleep on your left side your right  nostril will open if you lay on the right side the left nostril will open you may find out certain times you lay on the side you get these funny strange dreams of looks like there's a steamship coming across the ocean and it just went through the house now it's train  got something physical imaginative emotional mental unconscious and there's a spiritual thing catch to it as a matter of fact edgar casey said something i haven't read all his work but he said this statement great things happen to us and before they do we are showing them in the spirit he said in the sleep state but when we go to sleep we may not go to the unconscious we may go into the spirit the bible says paul said i know man that was in the spirit and the says if you want to know god watch worship god in the spirit doesn't say worship god in the flesh it says get up here in the soul the soul is connected to the spirit at that moment you can have total fulfillment warship because your spirit stay alive cut off this spirit in the body stops walking around it will still grow for a while because it said to grow for a while hair will grow fingernails or grow proteins being used up cut off the spear stops this will stop first a physical body goes first it lays down it goes dead but then someone comes along brings it back live to say it wasn't really dead and you feeling of being one with god but they don't remember a thing and they didn't see anything and they didn't see but in the room but they have this tremendous euphoric sense of consciousness then they get up in the mental and they and their way from the body and they have the mental realm and this great being talks to him or somebody comes and sees them and says go back well that's what it boils down to what they're really saying is re you know it's ok to be rejected by bodies but when one's spirit rejection hurts but we feel more hurt when another body rejects us in our going home with me oh i'm a little kill myself just don't make a mess brits going to die i don't know if you know that the body the astral body has a double body around that has all of our unconscious mechanisms of this world and everything we've done and hangs around us sometimes we feel a little fat at times because we've got things that we've got to do and we haven't done them with tuck them in the baggage around us the sooner we go on handle it we go god i feel like codes off my back like i can g s breathe will stand up that's right folks that there's a lot of truth in that when that happens but when we die that unconscious is a dent a fight with the physical body and it knows it gets its energy off the astral field when the physical body dies that unconscious body wraps itself around the as body for life to get life and energy and if the astral body doesn't know enough to shake it you've got what we have an earthbound spirit you see him walking through the halls of london and quaint homes and things like this and they come and sit on your bed and hold your hand and they can do this for my god thousand years so if we know that that's going to take place and we leave the body we know how to leave the body because we practice that when the sun bought a physical body dies the unconscious starts up and we just shake loose to willpower you don't belong here and the drops away pretty soon we can drop the astral body and go up here this way into the cause or body which is an emotional body and it can be seen a lot of the spiritual leaders and let's take psychics and clairvoyants and they are necessarily spiritual leaders they have a talent ability can see these and differentiate them and as we come up here we can drop this emotional body the causal body and we can come up to the mental body and then we and we think this is really important lot of people have seen god in this level i saw this b and i talked to this being and they said they were some so it's amazing if you're buddha you see buddha if you're christian you see jesus if you jewish you might see moses or joshua or jeremiah or somebody else if you're hindu you may see sh whatever it is that you are conditioned down here to study and believe in influences what you see appear in your mind if you've been taught that hell is  die you go right over here to this little place called h what's the bad news about that it's warm all the time what's the good news about that it gets hot enough everything that some peer gets burned out and you stand for what's the good news about hell if you didn't clean it up here on this level you get to cleaned up over here and it just all of a sudden took hell out of the danger zone didn't it but look that doesn't mean mr rounding to take a side trip that's why that's why we're here now because we messed around we've taken side trips we're we're now here looking at well let's see what my side trips have done for me and we come up here in this the theory there's this great cosmic mirror here and this is a void and if we can get through it and and a lot of people have they've come back with new religions i see the face of god fact one the guy travels through his own physical body mental emotional theory into his own universes came up against the theory void and saw and said i saw god face to face and it was myself didn't get out of his own body with the says world's without and they're not talking about that out there that also but inside of us is the micro as well as those the macro out there and we're sitting as a pivot point between two dynamic areas we have difficulty with that if one starts to take over control more than the other but if we can actually make ourself available to both the macro and the micro make ourself available and how do we do that meditation prayer spiritual exercises loving caring serving here in this physical world we make ourselves available to all of that we can do that forgiving is one of the first steps goes like this i forgive myself for all the junk i ran on me thinking i was rendered on them if i get angry you knew walk out the door and i'm still angry guess who's hurt me and the end if i don't tell you it's even worse so one thing when i get angry i gotta let you know so at least you get to suffer a little bit you're going to suffer until you see the next that you like and then you're going to forget that i was angry and once in a while it might come in maybe ten or fifteen years later is that you had g r s angry one night poor guy hope he's over it for twenty years i've been being angry at you not folks that's called stupid if you ever wonder how stupid is that is it and we do that so we know we all got some stupid in us i love my dad had been with the belt and beatings over it was over my mother should beach and i should yell at you for thirty minutes later on forty minutes to get if we get into this i am this is what the movement teaches how to transcend across from the physical the astral because all the mental deterioration how to get across their spiritual exercises we can get in this right up above it and come up above the soul level and above all of creation which is above the soul level we get to then go down and we can correct the things in our life that weren't correct and we can make our life wonderful and beautiful and we find out we could have done it without going up to the top to do it and that's managing yourself moment by moment decision by decision and knowing that there are consequences coming if you do it the wrong way so you put yourself in line to do it the correct way that's called living your life right now and we call it health wealth and happiness john rogers closing words where space shand which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you've heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey of a soul call this number one eight hundred eight nine nine two six six five you can send e mail to service desk at m s i e dot au our gene or right to that which is post office box five one three one three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one dash one nine three five this has been that which is with john roger thanks for joining us august seventh seven am when the warning why are we doing here what on earth can we find here i guess we could call this a court yard and those things the key thing now is you're here you sitting in the heart geographically of the world and you sitting in the heart of egypt and you sitting right in the middle of a biblical verse out of the bible and i might be that they did one thing that we didn't do to have to the spiritual power and use it to move the earth materials the way they you can find it by reading the messiness of your own being you can hear life of egypt coming away and just let that be ok because you're sitting in a spot that certainly with a traveler but you can sure be proud that you're here and at the same time be very humble that we're walking in the presence of some of the most ancient