for the f b i and cia the dirty element and division number five and he was operating out of clint merchant says holman at the time that he was doing his radio shows infiltrating patriots and in dallas he was assigned to liquidate the estate of clint murchison and clint murchison father was where they had the big party at the house after they killed kennedy in the night before killing him and then coming back and you had professor jim where the judge refused to allow myself witness or any of the other witnesses testimony to be heard by the jurors the most bizarre judicial corruption in one case that i've ever seen and you know i was a political prisoner myself in the case was dismissed with prejudiced you know after holding me for ten and a half months silence me but what did happen to david is bizarre and i might add that ron has a book important for me to want to hear as much as and maybe a lot of the other it's one of these things that we as a people maybe aren't hearing enough for now heard heard about what well how webb and i think i have your names down correctly here and i think i spelled them right so if i made mistakes i'll let the audience figure that one out it's really an honor to hear you tonight and as we know you know i interviewed paul pentode who spent stying jerry had been one of the top leaders in the world and radionics radius teacher had to just developed a mineral whacker was the name of it mineral water i honestly charged an radionic lee charge something that most people don't anything about and can't get her husband's body back for nine days and when she did it was cremated now there's more but we're tying into the ionic mineral water thing wasn't that what they were doing right well i was going with something f e m a for just a real quick i would say interaction ninety ninety five and that was when david was still on business in los vegas and he supplied me free copper a gallon a week or gallon every two physics dr norman walker taught that in his juicing books in the principles of physics and dr person in the means by healing the human body regenerating a properly but we're going to that later probably they don't want us to be healthy obviously with the thing going did with many whistleblowers and people in the pager community in the one nine hundred ninety s in two thousand timeframe and then he tried to set me up on a murder for hire scheme and he actually lied to police had a swat team hit me they left after five hours interrogation i mean this guy was a total slime ball up to his death infiltrating the painter came in in take people's names and turn him over the f b i division number five which he was working for and targeting people slander and people well gunderson i found out that we eat the things he had done was so off the charts there were fifty attorney generals around the united states the trying to prosecute him and to just spark come in to say look you're trying to prosecute him we got him over  investigations and it's your files please do not touch him and ensure with our with our current investigation and i found this out through stephen dinnerstein a defense intelligence officer who had been turned private investigator had dug on this for me  for free when a gunderson was trying to target me over getting a killer off of charge in las vegas then he turns around and he sent her murder for hire scheme letter to the attorney general of the united states saying that i had  department where i live in in missouri john and johnny go in the back door game on me well of course i have or threats and so forth and i guess or something that could probably be done but the point is they're all tied together they're working for they they're in there they're going to all prototypes working for the f b i and and gunderson was doing that and he was running several people dogma lar anthony hilder who was massage was also involved now i testified in david's trial and it was most bizarre thing i ever saw the judge ordered the jurors out of the room would not allow any juror to ever hear any of david's witnesses to prove his innocence and g conspired with the net and said well we're going to get his business we're going to put him in jail he had a hard on scuse expression for david he put david on the air when he had a radio program and was targeting patriots and he had a that and it was something to do with the child molestation case david didn't know all the facts he apologized as roland said the next day or the following day on his own program or whatever it was for even bringing it up it turned out to be there art bell the radio talk show host son had been molested by a school teacher and gunderson was pissed off at art bell because art bell wouldn't put him on the air he told me that personally he said that to me a says i want at our belt because he didn't put me on the apparently continued calling art bell a child molester on his own radio program in art bell soothing and won in court an undisclosed settlement i asked gunderson how much did your insurance company knew was a had to pay a g it was a carryover from the time i was in the f b i and they had to pay the one point i believe one point two million dollars for slander and defamation character of this was  rick post was set up and murdered later but he was set up and so was the guy that was involved the campus on by gunderson was set up on a murder for hire scheme and that guy went to jail until he proved his innocence and he was in there for four five years choice that they chose to use it says we hold these truths to be self evident that all men are created equal which means that with or about this is true and like all men are created equal it's pretty much  get the story out about david and i'm not meaning to interrupt you let's get one of the judges of all the problems that cropped up at all in his case that has done everything to keep this man in jail he doesn't deserve to be in jail he didn't do piece of paper is george bush and said so what why don't we what are we talking about here you can do anything they want you go to court we have to go through the system and ultimately i'm telling you folks it is only one thing if you do not get stand up for truth and justice and so we're going to do everything in our power to fight for this country i know that i don't want to lose my grandkids and great grandkids that i have now to be turning it into  work many years ago and actually the first time i heard some years now that this guy's got to be exaggerating this stuff can't be true you're talking about written things about iran caca the governments bringing all these masks that this can't be this is impossible that no government could get away that they thought they'd be arrested by the f b i also of course over the years i found out every single thing you said more is all true you are right about it all but it just takes a long time it's such a heavy load when you first hear  world yes to be completely restructured before you can hit fit into your head and i think the united states government is a rico criminal organization and the reason they get away with what they do is because people want to believe the government is god it's a parent figure that the government has gotten into the schools for the last hundred years they worked very hard to control the children the intelligence agencies are in the major cities schools are ripping off millions out of the schools they have two sets of books they have high children to be good new world order citizens and it's really sad because in my local schools they have every five hundred feet or so they have a pink triangle in the it's a safety zone and they tell children in grade school junior high school if you're confused about your sexual identity stop here and wait and the teacher will come and take you in for counseling and then of course they have volunteers from the community and there are constant the kids that are known pedophiles  d they have my school system of taking little girls in twelve thirteen years old or pregnant they take him before a county judge the judge sends a formal ideas this girl are you afraid of your parents if you tell them yes i'm afraid they sign a form the school nurse takes in for the abortion or birth control pills or condoms or whatever and their parents never find find out about it and if they do find out what they can't do anything about so it's a total social control program and the average person on the street for someone to come and say the government brings in drugs or the government killed kennedy or the government did nine one one they can't handle it they don't want to hear it won't fit into their head they're too busy working and earning a living they're so tired from just working their tired they don't have any energy left so it's a it's a vicious circle of mind control but in spite of all this great king down thanks to the internet the internet is revolution revolutionized to full of information the alternative media is attracting people and they're leaving them in the major mass media to control major mass which is nothing but a u s government propaganda mouthpiece people are catching on and i've talked to young people all time and they tell me when they go for  news they have any interest they go straight to the internet and they have their own favorite new sites things that appeal them and they have an instinctive grasp of truth that i don't even think we had at that age and they're managing the mass media the the i think it keeps the mass media going is  effects who in their right mind would ever take any of those pills with the side effects they mention that of course then they have the late night sex ads with half naked girls dancing around and call me on the phone and this and then i maybe come to your house you know  ridiculous crap and then collection agency get out a collection debt that it's all scams you know mass media's and then political advertisements and if you cut that crap and fried off if there was no longer people that lived in these advertisements the mass media go under and one day but it's coming anyway and so there is going to be no more secrecy within a matter of a year to all the secrets are coming out the n s a is toast everybody knows that the whole world is turning against united states because of the n s a abuses we're now the nasty germany of the world the russians are against us europe's against is the chinese are good for the whole world is getting up on us and they're going to destroy us if we don't change it's just a matter of time so but i had people coming to me and i knew that they'd come want to pay me cash and i always thought their name was too ordinary like john johnson or something but they had family issues and stuff and they and i would say well you know why aren't you going to your own agency because you know there's regulations you can't you can't go outside your agency and it's a cause i don't trust anybody if you would i mean you're working for the f b i you don't trust them absolutely not these cases were people that had a nervous breakdown or post traumatic stress from some bad mission overseas and and then they put it in their file and they get use punish and use it with promotions with old data that they could they couldn't trust any of these people and i found that was true of every agency there was and one intelligence agency ever talked to anybody that any integrity at all the time they would have used them and manipulate him and do things to him and there is no trust there and i learned quite a bit about people that we had one guy was an agent in east germany would go under the tunnels he spoke seven languages he dressed up like russian officers or east german officers and the end of the war he told me that the cold war that all the agents the russians in america agents were all friends they figure we're not killing each other anymore  big scam they thought the leaders of both countries were nuts and they drink coffee together and pretend they were spying and each other but they became part of a big social coffee click and so really the cold war ended with a whimper that basically nobody wanted to fight anymore and of course once once the soviet union fell and russia has been changing quite a bit and becoming more like the west  but this country's and terrible shape economically about phony money system we have foreign maker private bankers are coming hijacked their country this is that what we're going through right now is nothing but a replay of the war of eighteen twelve in the civil war the british are still trying to replay the revolutionary war and take us back and so far they've not been able to fix succeed i think they're going to fail i think their systems crumbling i think what they want to do is starve us out put everybody into the street and just destroy us think people are catching on preston you've done a lot and you're christian and you have a strong faith in god and that you've been a target as a result of speaking out they poison you tribes and so forth and you know he got saved after he left area fifty two and you know has he said he said i asked him one time i said it i said if you acknowledge that this was the aliens for the fallen angels in this was a particular a land that bill clinton george her george w bush george herbert walker bush was there too i'm not sure but well they're all are now meeting with them again they compartmental compartmented levels or special access programs and in some running knowledge programs and even special access they just don't even exist on paper they have nobody or nothing else and they're called beyond black programs and they used to be if you work for one of those and you open your mouth around way they kill you within twenty four hours the last two years that stopped people started talking so there are there is a split there is just community college m j twelve of the twelve people that run government out there but they're in cahoots some of them are in cahoots with these alien beings now there's a split in the m j twelve community the very top level people the old ones the old wrinkly ones are ready to die they believe that these are the gods that these are from star other star systems and that they are real people but they're gods to their god men and that if they follow them they will become god men and they you know they have these strange relationships with them and they get their own spirit guides and all these weird things ok then you have the lower level people and in vitro some of them believe that these people are demons impersonating a lens that they they really believe they're even there but they also can't do anything they don't have the power but they have but what they have been able to do is create enough to send in m m j twelve where they have all agreed to start letting the truth come out plus there are rumors that the aliens that they're in business with have told them that if they don't inform the people by two and tons of aluminum and barium they're trying to change the composition of the earth kill off the humans creating massive alzheimer's massive problems and they're trying to care for me and they barely have been  negotiating a treaty in africa to repopulate africa with a hybrid species or they have underground bases dull seas one of them but they have underground bases where they're doing experiments with joint efforts with human scientists trying to breed alien human hybrids which they've always had in fact many people and i don't know this for sure but i've been told by experts on the inside that the people that run the banking and the various babylonian managed black magic systems a go all the way back to the royal family and please people like that are already hybrids and that's why they don't ever want their blood tested because they already are part natural and part of the fallen angels but in the bible talks about the fallen angels coming to earth breeding with earth women and then god destroying the whole world except for his family because of it and they also said they would be back and i think they're back now but but there's a lot of strange things going on as most people knew the level with which certain sectors of intel in the government was involved with aliens it would blow their minds because they're here they've got bases and in these underground bay they're trying fully exposed it and i've found that he's a hundred percent accurate everything i've checked out that he's written on it i know not the first to expose it i think that you've done the best articles and i give you credit for that fresh and right well thanks for having me on