well this is all the live again in this is wolf you will soon get me of yahoo you can spell my name i think it's not that difficult but it takes a lot of will to do it because it was to him in my name by the way and it's what he was about we have john davis here and we're going to cover some stuff that i think is very important mainly because john davis is kind of be a picture mean he's a great mind of influence here in king county in seattle washington northwest as far as creating things canada's standards and ethics you might want to see in the background and cannabis legislative factors meaning creating a cannabis food at county canada's food code well this housing code leading landmark changes to what we think and how we do things here in this country at the county level county by county by county and is it possible that we may have an influence that the cannabis coalition for standards and ethics might make a difference in that as well as being able to lay a ground work out to change the course of her destiny especially in the state with a four billion dollar industry over a hundred thousand jobs  could happen and what about export we haven't talked about that here and we are looking at billions of dollars of potential expert coming right yeah i mean i think that when you talk about legislation the county king county is unlikely to pass  anything because what they passed would probably in all likelihood conflict with state law so what peer likely to see is a change is and the coalition for canada standards and ethics working with a few legislature legislators to craft a bill that originates in the industry so that it actually works for us so that commerce can be done in a controlled and you're talking about state law that really needs to be refined i mean what you're likely to see from the you're likely to see ordinances from the counties and you can have positive ordinances that allow for collective gardens and you can have a negative you can have moratoriums passed so that's what we're likely to see that but outside of that you're not likely to treaties that prevent us from doing this and at least in the short term you're likely to see no exports in fact right now while states have individual laws that allow for what we're doing all interstate trafficking is illegal in all states so and federal international trafficking flies in the face of many treaties e you know well there's there's there's two things there's law and there's policy and a lot of people think that they're one in the same and they're not the law is the written rules to have positive laws however take for instance amsterdam and it is all cannabis is illegal in amsterdam federally however there is a policy of tolerance and that is not that's not a law federally in holland that is a policy that allows for this to happen now you're going to see laws change and policies change but there's a lot of things that are happening right now harborside health the largest dispensary on earth just got served forfeiture papers on tuesday and that looks like at least from the individual audit and it's demonstrably that they're in compliance with state law however melinda hag has decided that she's going to go after the civil asset the building because it's in violation of federal law what goes on inside the building is in violation of federal law so these are the type of policy things that happen exterior laws and what's going on in harborside is critical right now because whether whether prevails or whether steve d'angelo prevails it's going to change everything it's going to in the next two months you are going to see policy shift immensely in whatever direction the actions taken by the u s attorneys say that they're taking the head of the snake that is their strategy and if that works then it's going to be a different playing field for those in the rest of the  when those owner letters you know it's fair game on anyone depending on the preferences of the u s attorney of the individual u s attorney but if d'angelo prevails right no longer are people really going to fear the owner letters because it's already they've already lost in court so a lot is going to change in the next two months  policy and then in the next legislative session statewide you're going to have hopefully some new legislation that's going to clarify a lot of these things a lot of the distribution models a lot of the food producing the edible producing concentrates testing you're going to see a lot of that change federal law is unlikely to change except for the policy on  how it's unforced whether whether or not we get a new administration in two thousand and twelve well harborside is the largest in the country distributor access in the world in the world a hundred thousand clients  together we're looking at a president who said he was going to sign a bill that would allow for medical cannabis it's different in amsterdam it's not medical you can visit there go to a computer shop and buy weed smoke international records but it's different here we're looking the lay of the land this been given to seattle is a very progressive town seattle has a very pragmatic attitude towards dealing with drugs in general they have a very accepting attitude towards medical cannabis and so long as those distribution models for medical cannabis are appropriate seattle views them as a good thing and plus resources at the discretion of the u s attorney where our u s attorney in western washington is jenny durkan which makes it a very very different world now in eastern washington as mike warns b that's a little bit sketch we're over there but this is allowed us to operate outside of having all the owners letters the raids that have happened have been some targeted but in seattle mostly done with a reason behind them so it's allowed us to come together and to find minimal standards that we can hold ourselves to to bring an infrastructure together i think that really california is leading the way but they're they are the bleeding edge we are the cutting edge you know my hat's off to them down there because they seem to take the brunt of everything that's architecture this is all new it's own phenomenon yeah and in the for example challenging meaning there's going to be massive challenges i'm trying to push the envelope as you can see but what about cannabis being found to help remove nuclear contamination things like that i mean yeah you know i mean am i wrong i mean as you know challenge question is to say to the university structure here what you guys get a few million dollars in grants and let's find out you know i mean yeah you know i mean and i know you don't you're not incorrect but however you're you're not going to change a policy that is so deeply entrenched in america as cannabis prohibition overnight and it's a game it's an incrementalist game you're you're in order to get to a place where we can even have a sane conversation about science you need to move the game forward step by step  currently working on medical because that's the most that has the most support and it's the most clearly backed by science even even if it's in science been stifled for sixty years but the plant kind of a city that you have to understand that humans evolved with this plant it is no accident as to tivo means in the service of man this is a this is a plant that we can show we've been around for at least to clean up nuclear contamination it's used in plastics popular mechanics from cellophane to dynamite the plant itself has so many uses and man has just discovered the endo can add in all its system of the brain we didn't even know it existed forty years ago so the medical breakthroughs that are going to come by adding a little science and that is what we're pushing right now we're pushing the a very a very limited  because it's a completely new system and it has not been studied and really they continue to try to make it so that you can study it they're still trying to make sure that there's no positive studies that come out about cannabis but now that we have medical we can have cannabis that is grown in a controlled environment and we can do our own experiments on it and the more that we experiment the more we find out just how fantastic how fantastically useful this plant yes that we made illegal y and you know humankind i mean yeah we're short sighted but we're no dummies there's a reason the cannabis has been around with us forever we have never lived without it and even through prohibition i'm going to madge and there's was merchandise but we also use it as a base of operations so that we've been over the past twenty years we've been basically producing hamfest out of people's homes we've been having meetings in  the peaks home the board meetings for fifteen years and this gives us a base of operations that we can actually operate more like any other entity and we could have a place for volunteers to come and get tasked with things and actually have a place to produce it educating and stuff like that what about him press t v anything in the works that's  pretty like broadcasting get more involved people i think we'd love to the question is hemp fest takes a year to produce and it really is a lot of work and i gotta say it's the most fun i've ever had in my life but it is a lot of work it's very rewarding but taking on projects requires really new and new people with new energies to be brought into the fold because you know a lot of people that do a lot of the work for him have a lot on their plate and you know right now hemp fest is coming up i'm on the board of national cannabis industry association that board meeting in california is the weekend after next i'm giving a three day business class this coming weekend for care wellness on the business of cannabis and cannabis policy  and of course and i've got the coalition for canada standards and ethics so it's something that we would love to do having the expertise and the time is problematic it's wristing yeah it's far as things going on across our state thirty nine counties problems with that legislation things like that what is it that like for example we had andrew hughes he's running for seventh district here against mcdermott he's off for trying to congressional oversight to try to help change the course of this because we have p t s d medical p t s d people that need it veterans things like that i noticed that also the v a hospital here you just saw medical is now treating because recognize that these people have gone over and served in a war and they have issues because of that and they went and served and whatever you think of the war their or you know phantom limb pain where they have actually lost a limb and cannabis can provide relief for the government to turn around and say yes you are disabled because you went and fought for us and you cannot have something that makes you better is is tough so more and more the individual v a s not necessarily the v a as an organization but the individual offices are allowing for cannabis also you've got to remember that in washington state there are specific qualifying conditions that have to be met and currently has not allowed for p t s d to be a qualifying condition so yes i personally know many vets who are using cannabis therapy i know many people in the veterans administration that are helping this i have a very good friend who's a far four star general whose name i will mention but he's been very instrumental in outreaching to these agencies to say look if this is going to help the troops we can't not provide this so again it's an incrementalist game the v a will change eventually but it's just beginning to change now interesting john are you seeing progress are we making more communication with the state legislature we got john good roger goodman who's probably the most successful state legislator in the state's history very nationwide as well roger is incredible he's a credible person and he's  for this trying to get these things going properly and proper medicals the way to go we also have commercial there's many ten thousand products that we need for from building blocks to oil replacing of all forms for commercial purpose s not just in transportation sorts a lot bigger than we think is it almost like there's a giant monopoly that just wants to look at us as we're serfs yeah i think so but maybe we're making headway because we're the people that laid the groundwork we were the pioneers that built this  country and it's time that we replying to your country i think we're doing i think you're doing it i think we're all doing it it takes all of us working together would you like to see us do as a community here and work what can everybody participate in to to get this thing going properly how do we participate given might you get some ideas because well i mean i would say look there's been a stigma in this country and we all know it i was in i was in the corporate world for a lot of years that i was a cannabis activist and it made it very difficult even with myself being a cannabis activist that you know i would be in the paper every hundred can which was a little bit sketchy i was firmly in the closet because i had to be but coming out is the first step being able to say look i am a cannabis user and i am proud and i think that prohibition is the silliest prohibition of cannabis is the silliest thing  least top ten that the us has ever done and it needs to stop and to be able to be proud to say to your neighbors that you know what i i don't support the war on  and put effort towards bringing this prohibition to an end but what it's really going to take to bring this prohibition to an end because everyone knows it's over stick a fork in it it's done it's a matter of time is for us to say look i'm a united states citizen and i i consume cannabis if that's what you do or to say i am a us citizen and i am against cannabis prohibition when you can be out and proud and your neighbors can see that you're out and proud and it is ok to disagree with u s drug policy which it is constitutionally that's what's going to change a thing people are still it's fear the most the most important thing that's keeping cannabis prohibition alive the number one thing everything we need to have some science we what we need to know is that well one everything the government has been telling us about cannabis is basically a lie and you can say is demonstrably you can go look this stuff up educate yourself go out find out about it don't take my word for it find out what cannabis is what it does what the history is educate yourself educate your neighbors do you expect much fast so i work with all the various agencies and there's always things to work out but i got to say the city of seattle as much as we kind of butt heads every now and again they're great people it's a great city i love to work with them and ultimately everyone involved with some limited exceptions want to see happen fast out there proud and successful john thank you very much for briefly i've heard they can get ahold of you me really honored thank you very much and this is the hip fest website background if i can bring it up there is that's at the back ground trying a brand new website yes oh yes no kidding really i look forward to seeing you again we just want television absolutely thank you thank anywhere on the planet because we're all over the planet i guess online seal community dot org thanks for watching tonight and we're going to cover some things i think are important for the community especially has to do with an emerging way business here in the north west and in the nation and we're very honored in a minute here to in a second and for many minutes after that to hear from tom gordon i five realty dot com you can realize it's called i five reality dot com or this is realty real tom we're we're we're we're covering issues of real estate in a way that's never been seen before i guess repeating the way forward across the nation but it's starting here cross the state possibly a police crossed our county or city am i right i mean seattle  to i mean what would people ask where we do where do i get my real estate license for medical cannabis growing and i want to do all that cash and they're going to broker specializing in this you think you know it's a very small niche and it's it's tricky i've been hit it about a year and a half coming from a commercial real estate background bed in the business over forty years and in the past i specialized in fast food restaurants the name brands done approximately one hundred fifty of those done real estate work for safeway albertson's the banks the gas stations just happened on this and with the everything else in the it's going on in the real estate business it's just become overwhelming to me were i'm spending darn close to fifty percent of my time doing these transactions  i want to tell you about one thing that happened because of this show got a call from a land owner down in west seattle and he saw what i have done and heard be an said hey you seem to be an expert or as much of that expert as there is he was going through some medical issues and is a card carrying member of the medical marijuana society  were he bought a building and asked me he said i'm not going to put my business in there when it you find me a dispensary so this is as close to a situation of an auction as i've seen in many many years in the real estate business what happened is he asked me to advertise it and come up with a tenet and i told him what i do is i would run it by ten qualified people and then bring the best three to him when he came back in town turned out we had five highly qualified candidates and we sat down an hour to time with each one of these tenets and he liked them all  he'd like to do business with the ones he didn't choose but he did choose one and much to the chagrin of those who didn't get chosen he made a deal the lease was signed in consummate that deal all notarized everybody got a copy and the funds transferred the next day now that's the interesting part in what piques my interest in the business is you can make deals this quickly where in fast food the safeways of the world in the mcdonald's somebody in illinois or and pleasanton california may come and say no no we don't want to do it and that's after you're into the getting to a point now where we're looking at brokers specializing in this field right now i mean obviously there must be something to it there must be investment groups i've heard stories that the brokerage companies are sending out their personal to learn this business here obviously it's more real than we realize in the reality world in my right i mean yeah that's that's correct the so called big houses or body shops that have signed around the city  they play what's called sign catch and what has happened is these are the people that would have gotten thirty forty fifty calls and the rule of thumb is if there's a sign from a kid matthews or first western properties or you again clark and it's not a dispensary and it has their sign chances are it won't become a dispensary for me to call on the sign just simply doesn't work because these firms will typically have one person in the firm specializing in doing access points what they're not doing is spending as much time as i'm doing because i'm doing essentially ten representation work well i want to mention this let's say for example i'm going to go start over i'm going to go look for a facility and possibly get into medical cannabis processing or medicaid medical food processing  if i'm going to create a medical food business here in king county obviously there's bines there's licensing there's insurance there's a lot more involved as far as let's see i want to go step forward to create this business obviously there's going to be a ca say that if we're going to have a industry that about to make a difference and people want to participate really that the experts are just becoming experts right i mean right tom that's correct that's correct and then basically part of the commercial kitchen is perhaps the trickiest part of the industry and the newest and it's at this point because  the state of the u s da and the health department boy it's part of the industry the attorneys will tell you to be very cautious up i would certainly do more than talk to one insurance man and especially the insurance people in the lawyers out of california that perhaps have had more more dealings in this part of the industry term let's s e let's say for example but she's like the matriarch professor of how this all is involved all the other canvas out access points here in the king county c e o larry have kind of followed that she created a template an architecture and she's also trying to lead the way in creating the soul of food company now she's getting that started and if that's a company that's going to be creating medicals medical food let's say for an industry that's just more or less being set to be recognized officially even trend is that what she did then home sales to other dispensary so they will do the same to her a lot of the dispensaries have in house baked goods and so as we've discussed we could see a scenario where where you'll see a grocery store type setup you'll go into a dispensary and there might be met a bowls from ten fifteen twenty access points yeah remission as we've mentioned it probably discovered that cannabis will be discovered helps it helps remove nuclear contamination i'm sure they'll be found with the mushrooms they grow here in the northwest which i'm hearing now actually cure cancer that's wh fighting also nationally psoriasis a whole lot of stuff as i've observed very clearly and who knows at the medical cannabis industry might just go into another whole realm of industries and other places of types of foods right i mean other things would be other things besides cannabis right i mean you could actually be looking at growing having growing operations growing other types of plants that will be applied to this medical cannabis access point industry for curing cancer me if i look at it is it's a dynamic reason to to create the reason of not normal organic cures instead of chemical pharmaceutical corporate things like senate questions start with me pro choice what a landlord is going to ask us for our financial statement and a credit report if you have a semblance of those two items it's going to get you in the  door if you want to be qualified to meet with the landlord ready to make a deal that's what i suggest now all have be having a property come on the market tomorrow at just north of northgate at one two zero zero two more and to go through the process again i would bring be loaded with some items not as necessary but it's always good to have a pro forma a business plan  the resumes a the equipment list a break even analysis all these sorts of things can help and a lot of the professional multi unit operators would have to have this and that's who you're competing with a a typical landlord would prefer to deal with an individual rather than a corporate door a franchise chain so you're finding you're finding now that there's more and more people that are learning is like landlords are learning this is a learning thing right in there catching on it's like first it's fear because of all this but then again they're realizing it's business as usual so we're looking at creating information source where they can get like they can call you up right now that's correct yes but you get a whole year right there if you can see it that time i five realty dot com i hope they call you for maybe you might have end up having to instruct the classes and i'm your own i mean well i'm i'm a licensed instructor by the state of washington yes that's good to know and so we are making strides there's a canvass coalition to find out don is teaching classes as well there's a lot more in the education circuit thing here is probably be certified someday as more gets involved so i appreciate time that they'll be able to get a hold here and contact you questions i look forward to that i hope you think some people call you i really do yeah and so do i and it's a process and it really want to find his own property the real process is getting down as they say with the landlord the landlords have certainly a lot of issues to consider but now they have more properties to go and look at to say that hey this works i know a friend that's listen if it's something that's going to get better it's going to become established that's really what most people look at is an established the landlord may have multiple properties that maybe once he learns about this he might be able to work on creating a process of developing those properties for that type of industry realizing that's going to grow possibly serve a billion here in the state maybe will be found at the u c c and sherman act you can actually export i think that's what's going to happen it's a medical product that apparently over five countries can receive medical cannabis products it's a manufacturing thing i know there's going to be there's this and there's going to be that but it somehow it seemed to think that a medical campus and they can't forget right it's medical right med it's medical it's not much you get these grown you know  everybody for the next ten minutes while wilson here just hang in there ok well we're back at the segment hope to get a little bit of panel discussion on the real estate phenomena of medical cannabis medical can facility he said more or less here in seattle at this time medical food producing medical food baking while we pop manufacturing all kinds of stuff medical oh and also the concept of where do we start i wouldn't know where to and it's like an idea you could do tours of people getting into that type of business right i mean am i wrong yeah that's a whole new opening of ventures and you know cannabis cafe opening in washington w lighting stores opening up supplying you know lighting equipment there's new real estate companies specializing in leasing and and working with medical companies that are both sides of this story when we do these kind of t v shows and here he is against five hundred two and i am post five hundred two and we have a guest here today and we'd like to ask the guest who he is and what stance he has on any issue the d c here to talk about because we're not just here to talk about marijuana we're here to talk about all sorts of public things and i'd like to ask the guest thinking you give me is the landlord and i think what most of us fail to realize is the importance of a lease if you go to court what a spirit court judge will tell you is the court abhor the cancellation of  in a lot of cases a lease the less c o ten it's position is stronger than the property owners people come to me and they act like it's no big deal not a no big i've been in the real estate business south first time as a commission salesperson for forty years then there's a property right now if we don't change the law because if your real estate agent and you own property can't your properties be forfeited by the u s government if there is marijuana being grown on your properties and stuff don't you have more protection on five o two if it's passed for your property no you cannot grow if the government can take your property away so i'd like to know from you tommy worth what kind of protection you have as a homeowner whether you have a lease or not if you bring your property out to somebody right now bend no homes or property owners have not had to forfeit any land or any buildings or any property what we're seeing in california is a lab word letter where there are they're sending a civil war and really there's maybe ten or fifteen properties have been floated subsequent to the civil war and so that would be what one of the five million captions there's property in the state of washington right think it's going to be good for the economy difficult community would be a small business owner which might be taking a chance for the government more you know but at least should generate more money generate in a service to the people that's what i think it's about the people the people need the medical marijuana you know the right not give a tool if they need it you know they try to stop it with the alcohol or try to stop it with so much control you know i want to hear from the government that you forget the service and care about the people it's always seems about the money or your cause or whatever you're trying to do but i just marijuana has changed my life a lot i mean you know i was drinking and drugging doing all that stuff too but you know one thing about marijuana is gives me a healthy spirit is give me some of the floor to every day you know it gives me strength he gives me some much more than i had six two four nine six two four i'm a licensed private detective and they also produce t v show i also in the t v producer and i'm also in the u s supreme court ok what's the show you produce all public access to and what's the show is a