medicate myself every morning on medicaid also throughout the day in america itself every single event just the same as anybody else as in just the same way as i did when i got up in the morning taking it the prescription medication that i was taking at in order to mallets to keep track of the same issues that i have i'm using marijuana so where do you get your marijuana i am i have am a card carrying marijuana user in two of the fourteen states that it's legal in and i'll plead the fifth as to how i take care of  bill clinton we proved for fact that marijuana doesn't affect everybody the exact same way people who have illnesses like mine that have from magic neuropathic illness we don't get the same euphoria that people who don't have it a study just came out three months ago from the university of southern of san diego in california commissioned by the government of california for ten years they studied marijuana and he studied sarah tissues lisa nobody else could know that they were doing it and that study came back proving unequivocal way that is one of the it is all they live again and we're always waiting to see what's going to be for the all day everything day for whatever day that is whether it's alive or not sometimes i don't feel that much alive sometimes i wish i was more alive sometimes i think maybe we could all be more alive that's where the reasons we've been covering the cannabis legislation cannabis medical cannabis organic medical cannabis can't forget that medical cannabis isn't just medical anything don't you want clean medicine i do organic means that i think because it means pest fights pesticide free and things like that going even in the water if you using it for hydroponics or whatever this or that maybe even have toxic lakes who knows you know once upon a time i've helped  scientist figure out how to grow plants in darkness get a hold of me on that one if you want the way the whole idea is we're dealing with a whole new industry collapsing world economy wars everywhere guys that are worth trillions of dollars stealing everything means life and life means living in living means health and health means organic medicine cannabis medicine in sort of we're trying to figure out this means of drawing a map i'm not an expert on it that's why do these t v shows i'm lazy so bring people here on the set so i can listen to them and maybe you guys want to hear it also so i listen have you help eliciting a few guys got the information you want there to you can always get ahold me on that also this is public access t v this is all the live and we'll be wilson and doing it for the community not just the northwest community the nation communication community so he said by the way before i get to this panel of discussion with don barrington which you might see her website the background here it's we're honored to have her here today i know you can't wait to see her because i didn't want to listen to her she's an expert on organic medical cannabis and as we just went to the celebration dinner of bob ferguson here the new attorney general for the state of washington which doherty i used to coach a guy named keith ferguson many years ago it was it's all confused got him into the pros like i stop anyway so we're dealing with an issue of how do we figure out what is it that we need to know let's say we're going to start a clinic you have to have a clear zone what's clear zone which means that you have to be a thousand feet away from a school or a park there of so that you know it's like a very touchy subject because when you say i'm going to put in a can but ninety percent of repairer it's anyways and there's no there's no oversight as to whether it's organic that's what we're going to hear from don but the whole idea is that you can only put in a clinic in a certain specific place it can't be too close to  school can't be too close to a park so you know that and a lot of money is coming from out of state a lot of money being out of state of washington this is washington state we are in seattle and the whole idea is that when this money is pouring in here right now because of five o t winning in the ballots here just in this last election by the way you should be seeing us towards late november two thousand and twelve coming up anyway so whole idea is that what we're trying to figure out is we need to hear from experts not just because it's got to be organic guys getting it yet there's no standards there's no ethics there's no oversight there's no county legislation saying medical organic medical cannabis food safety labeling testing delivery you want your you know what you how about we'll go down the street  because he's got an ad background in can't possibly the only guy i know that has the expertise needs to worry about this and there they are and keep them and gone i mean as far as where we're headed as far as the whole idea don it's got to be organic standards it's got to be in a clear zone it's going to be catching on you guys you have to realize that clears and it's going to stick cross the nation because it's leading the way as you've got to close it collapsing the economic world global ban it stealing or reciting and cashing in on their weapons and money laundering and drugs and everything else and they're in charge and the people states are seceding from the union sort of thing because it's a corporate u s not usa which means america because it's not that it's a u s corporation we don't get that yet the whole idea is that we're trying to figure out a means by which we can instrumentally create economy two hundred years ago a constitution was printed on canvas paper right done that's right the first draft of our us constitution was printed on him wonderful wonderful material for rope fabric clothing to exist in list sales for ships caulking for ships that the health health food him towards i encourage you all to go out and get a bag of organic  it's him seed from it it's very very good for your body it's the highest source of protein known to mankind if you will it's a higher source of protein and meat it's a higher source of protein and fish than beans than soy the same they're kind of like cousins hampton cannabis themselves they implant has no psychoactive no t h c many of the command avoids that are found in cannabis are not found in him up its uses purely industrial if you will ever than the fact that that it's a tremendous source of protein but cannabis is a tremendous source of healing and saving lives and that's what we're doing here tonight is to talk about that how we can make it work how the law makers can can help patients rather than hinder them how our government can can embrace and help this industry rather than then doing very arbitrary kind of bad in force and kind of like the bad parent who gets their children all wound up on candy and then when they're bouncing off the walls beats on them because they're misbehaving when the when the parent was the one that actually set that up and that's kind of what our government has done with cannabis they've sort of set up a no win situation and a lot of people are really off the richter on this there are tremendous amount of money as we'll mention coming into this state from california arizona colorado new york these are profiteers they are not really interested in patients they are interested in making it it's the new gold rush the green rush if you will that's a whole different group of people than the people that we affiliate with and that we work with we're all about helping people's lives save their lives improve the quality of their lives reduce the pain in their lives and the difficulty in their lives in the least intrusive way possible and cannabis does that for many many hundreds of thousands millions of people in this country keith giffen i've been talking about what it takes to get an access point going it takes money and that's why there's you know big money coming in somebody just can't decide one afternoon to like open their kitchen door and start doing things out the back door those days did exist a few years back but they're long gone and they need to be gone this is in the same way that we went from school teachers who had an exemption we know education to teachers who have to actually be educated and pass tests and meet a certain criteria in order to go into a classroom it's the same kind of that we should have that in the cannabis field what we have right now are it's kind of what i say what i say often is that everybody who thinks they know how to grow things they know how to run a business not the same thing at all and first of all a lot of the people who think they know how to grow really don't know that much about growing  cannabis they're just kind of want to be s and just because somebody does even successfully grow cannabis certainly does not mean that they have any sense on how to treat patients how to do for patients what are the proper things to do that's part of the problem with colorado's structure of medical providing medical cannabis is that they they require people to be masters of all and very few people our access point in colorado has to produce seventy percent of their product that they sell what how they came up with that number i have no idea i don't know any kind of logic behind that number i guess they just didn't want people just being big growers but what they have are big growers who would then have big stores takes a million dollars to set that up this is not a mom and pop kind of thing like that we have here in washington we like our mom and pop situation we can like to keep it that way it's more personable it's more patient oriented because we really have an opportunity to have really one on one kind of like you might have a personal relationship with your local grocer but not necessarily all the people at costco there's a good use for costco but there's a tremendous use for the more personable approach would you say can you keep that phenomenal with don speaking about that personal touch i find that a lot of my own pharmacist and i and i think that don has a wealth of experience i mean if you want to give somebody an honorary doctorate you might as well just get one now because she's an amazing not just an administrator she's an amazing businesswoman and why is that important because she's trying to stay compliant with all the new laws that are going to come down in the new county codes and all this so yes opening up a dispensary access point it is a lot of work luckily don surround herself with the high caliber group of people that are ethical and honest and that says a lot for her right there if that model can be duplicated and copied throughout the state i don't think we're going to have serious ramifications about whether or not people are taking medical cannabis to save their lives does that sound about right yes there will are many people that take cannabis to save their lives and i'm i'm certainly i'm a walking example i was a science project for two years i learned a lot about cancer about healing about strains about ten ana boys then and more than happy to share that information with anybody who has a need to know and wants to know once information about themselves or a relative who has a serious then deficiency disorder which of course cancer is an in some very serious immune deficiency disorder theory easy to deal with that's the big secrets has been kept from people is how easy it is to deal  with we have a gentleman who comes to our clinic that had a melanoma and he used the simpson oil the same thing that i have taken for my cancer ten days ten days of putting that just a little bit of oil a little dab of oil on his and it was gone he went back to the doctor and they said where to go where to go this is the miracle inexpensive easy non intrusive pain free it's like magic and it is like magic that's why this this service been used for over eight thousand years to intimate is still sense for people for a variety of things we've been working with with growers who are who are giving people who are giving to the community i think for if you've been watching the show regularly you may have seen matthew gordon who is just an amazing person has developed several strains that have not been seen before in terms of adapting has taken him five years of working with them to get to finally get to where he wanted to go which is ok i want everybody to sit down for this one a can of the strain that rest short term memory that is just like blows people off the off the charts because stereo typically people associate cannabis with losing short term memory with having a lot of memory problems and to have a strain that in fact reverses that it undoes that kind of damage that can help people with all simers and people just generally have you know aging dementia this  phenomenal and i can i can just hardly wait until we actually get some serious studies course to get the serious studies in this country we have to get this off a schedule one and schedule one is not a schedule two is not good enough in my opinion schedule two would put it into the hands of the pharmaceutical companies it would be a prescription it would be sold in drug stores just like pharmaceuticals that's not where it belongs it belongs in health food stores it belongs in an access points that i would like to see x this points not only have cannabis but have ever healing products aso supplements and in zines and things that can augment the cannabis treatment for different things and for some people they don't even need cannabis quite frankly for some people it could just be a more b twelve b b one hundred vitamin d most of the people in the pacific northwest have a vitamin d deficiency please go out and get vitamin d today we don't get enough sun here you will feel better you will be healthier and especially if you have something that is a associated with an immune deficiency disorder you really need to be very serious about keeping your vitamin d so we're going to be carrying supplements and vitamins and other other pain reducing things that don't even have anything to do with cannabis as a just a total holistic approach to good  speaks about is the fact that there was a time in the pharmaceutical business when there was one rep in the territory so in the greater seattle area let's say north seattle there'd be one rep there might be another rep south seattle that's it for merck and typically with somebody that had a pharmacy degree then the market figured out well wait a minute this is big business we're just going to hire people with business agrees people like me who really didn't know the first thing about these medications yes i can learn it yes i went to the many med school at merck yes i learned a lot but what  really struck me was that the company spent millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars trying to get the message right the message for zocor cholesterol lowering drug was or saves lives isn't that wonderful uptake in the product gives me nasty headaches  there's much better ways to lower my cholesterol which is to increase the exercise which i've been doing and to eat better i know the pharmaceutical companies don't want to see somebody else succeed with saving lives because it monopolise that i know that the pharmaceutical companies run the f d a there's no question about it when i sold vioxx which was recalled as you all know pulled off the market because it was causing heart attacks nobody ever told me it was going to cause a heart attack why does that matter ultimately that was one of the fastest approvals for an f d a application ever what why do you think because merck entire company was at stake if that product did not come to the market when it did i invested in merc stock around that time and i don't have much money to invest then last well over six thousand dollars people lost like a quarter to half of their entire retirements because of what happened with merck and the vioxx scandal people knew that it could harm people and luckily the company finally came forward and did the right thing but it wasn't without a lot of people battling for justice what i see here is don just being an extremely hard worker and caring about people and that's a recipe for success the people she surrounds herself also care very much about people getting better getting well ultimately i might be off the off off tangent here but i think like p c c as a cooperative it be amazing if a place like p c c when don says a natural market or health food store would actually offer medicinal cannabis you know medical cannabis maybe it's not so crazy maybe if those people pulled together and said this is what we want maybe they start to demand that at the local level and maybe things change and we also have a great chef on our staff today chris and i could picture chris doing demos ri store with cooking with cannabis in i mean he's an amazing chef he can do anything so if anybody could do it he could and it be need to see that it be powerful the see people eating some so healthy and so good for you the taste so great because of the chris made it and back to the one that is great that one of the key factors of what we're trying to bring out to the public brought here in the back room fifty states are seceding from the union i don't know if you people are paying debt done we have to rebuild our economy well our states are disintegrating maybe or seceding or rebuilding their country it's like that two hundred year cycle where it's time to do it all over again and it was kept the did it the first time right it was sent the did it the first time it's hit the did it world war two and it's him actually they can do it right now here's here's the thing to lay out number one our health costs in this country exceed  per resident any other country in the world and yet we have one of the poorest delivery systems in the world that wasn't always the case but it certainly has been in the last forty fifty years and getting worse by the minute the costs are astronomical a lot of unnecessary testiness and a lot of expensive unnecessary drugs are given to people to their detriment this can all be changed with cannabis with cannabis we can reduce the cost of health care astronomically cannabis should not be the herb that is used after the fact after western every expensive western treatment has cut people up poison them fried them and then try to clean up the miserable mess afterwards with cannabis that that's really why it was allowed for cancer patients to begin with but why go through all that why spend four hundred thousand dollars to torture some or fifteen thousand dollars they can be cured healthy and no pain whatsoever that's where it really has to go and it's not just with cancer it's with just the whole the whole list of physical problems that people have rheumatoid arthritis c the list is in the lists aids it just goes on and on and on intractable pain which i know that but there are people who snicker and say oh yeah everybody's like in pain that's why they're using pot that is not what it's all about if you if you or anybody you've ever known has had a serious injury or a serious illness that has left them in excruciating pain you know it's no laughing matter there are there are patients we have patients that literally have to take some ensure in the morning so they can get out of bed and go to the bathroom brush their teeth take a shower and get dressed very easy for most of us excruciating for some people this allows them to be able to do that and that's why it's so important to him could be in a tremendous economic boon to this country we're buying him products now from canada and and china why is our our farmers getting that profit we could have him farms  we could have him farms across the the wheat the weed basin you know in iowa way in kent states like that where there's a lot of agriculture they should be growing him we could be running cars on him we can build cars on him him free ford built a car out of him everything out of him why can't we be doing that now it just doesn't make sense to keep this this political football going it's been going now for seventy five years longer than it actually and it's time absolutely to put a stop we know that prohibition doesn't work it didn't work with alcohol it does not work with cannabis i would like for  alcohol that does not make me terribly popular in this community i have to say there are a lot of people out there who don't want any regulation because they're making a lot of money as is keith as you were saying about  i don't know if you're saying it on air when we were talking earlier about how they tried to do you know they made their their motto was to put the patient first in the profits will follow that's what my company does that's what choice wellness is and i have to tell you straight out it is very very difficult competing against criminals can reading against cartels who are doing everything illegally who are totally in it for the profit and really don't care about the patient and when anybody that's in that kind of line speaks to and says oh i care about the patients i i say and how much of your medicine is organic oh well we started carrying an organic strain no they don't care about the people or they would have everything organic you don't put poison in medicine it's just how it is but we keep plugging along taking care of patients dispensing information being there for them not just not just when they come in to the to the shop but oss so good no follow through how this is working for you how is it working what can we do maybe we can help with a little different strain maybe we can hurry up with different ways of medicating other than smoking or other than tinctures or whatever that it's not quite working for them there are many ways to use cannabis medically and hill for us and that's what we keep looking for quick one of the key things that stick with i think is important to bring up is that you have mapped out the clears zones once a clear zone has to be a thousand feet and we bring up the background some information on that but it takes a lot of time commission and don't pay any attention to the jeopardy they're actually putting people into by putting in too close to a school or a park what the federal government it's kind of interesting they have rules for something that they say you're never supposed to do in the first place but they have rules one of their rules is that an access point cannot be within a thousand feet of a school now that does not mean the front door to the front door unfortunately what that means is property line to property line as the crow flies so when when you look at the whole city of seattle and you look at king county and you look at the whole pacific northwest especially in the city of seattle there are very few spots that are not within five hundred feet of a park or or a thousand feet of a school as the crow flies so what a few of us is done as is gone through and indeed with different from different approaches and identified those tiny little bubbles that i call the clear moan that means that it's not within a thousand feet of a school not within five hundred feet of a park where i am located now we're choice wellness is right now is on a rora in a tiny tiny little clear bubble if you walk to the corner in either direction you're back in a school zone that's why it's really really important although we do know because nobody's really in charge that the federal government has been very arbitrary in terms of closures i don't think there's even ten access points in the city of seattle that are in clear zones they're most of them are in school zones there's one that's right underneath the school and two doors down from a school and they didn't get a letter so it this is this is very kind of crazy way to to do a business you know the rules need to be set everybody needs to go by the rules the same rules which is kind of what keeps tops about a lot too is the arbitrary stuff that people do that that they have different standards for different people and different companies we've only got about four minutes left and we're going to get just a quick statement from the don't you think you're kind of ready to be comparable like one of the directors in one of these projects or for the status of consulting i think being a director under the direction of dawn is a tremendous opportunity because she knows what she's talking about she's clearly a good business woman clearly trying to do the right thing and if everyone could follow her lead in the state i think we'll be in good shape i think with the new administration that's in effect with the new governor jay inslee with the new attorney general bob ferguson and you can call me for august and if you want to see one of them an assistant attorney general and last and the new king county sheriff john r card i think it wouldn't hurt to start off by auditing all these other access points and dispensaries in the state to show that dawn has a valid point here and let's get all let's get everything on the same page so everybody has an equal playing field oh i was just going to say that there we actually have people in five other locations who are most anxious to have a choice wellness in their neighborhood it's just we don't have the money to fund that because we lost so much money with the d closing us down and having to relocate and rebuild and and all of that we just don't have any money at all but we are most anxious if somebody is interested in participating in this program we are we are looking for investors for these other clinics and that would be a great opportunity for everyone there is there's no reason a person can't make a decent living in this it's just don't scam the patients don't really have patients off let's do it with on or in integrity we can help that you could help them sort of a choice this clinic probably is well right that's right we can we more than happy to help people we've got actually even a park each about the different components that go into a clinic what you're going to need what it's going to take where it needs to be what kind of stuff you need how you need to run if you're going to hear from some other people here real quick we've got the other people on the panel just one last question we got in just a minute here and if we can we'll bring everybody up here it's scuse me because we can have an ounce in your pocket recreationally but it's got to magically appear or it's got to be there you can't buy it or sell it so that's going to make a big boom in the black market and i talked to john eric heard about this and told me he's got some big hurdles ahead of him because of the way this is being implemented and it was really planned ahead of him and you know it's not about you know so that could be interesting to see how it turns out that's a that's a good question appreciate it chris go ahead professor i got a commission like pursue harassment charges against you i love it thank you guys and they can get back to us here and get all the live and die everybody we got all this information a friend here you can watch in that's our contact information please get back to us we're only trying to do th will be many places sprout about a quarter inch into a rock will square with the seed on top and the tip facing down keep the squares wet as the sprouts pop up and take root eventually strong roots will emerge from some rock walk you these are nutrients are used for all three growing stages but in different amounts for state one we use thirty two millimeters of flora grow sixteen milliliters of flora micro and eight millimeters of flora bloom we also add twenty five million liters of cow mag and twenty five mil or leaders of bad quantity during this stage the time it keeps the lights on for eighteen hours a day off for six growth should be quick and robust and after three to seven weeks the plants are ready for same stage two only lasts about two weeks as the plane strain dition into the budding stage wanted to plant every day but skip every third or fourth day always be sure that the water drains out of the bottom holes ensuring proper growth once again the cow magnet and back on to remain the same now the flights are set up to a twelve and twelve cycle stage three may last from four to six weeks the bugs will begin to swell as they approach maturity and they become crystals in the present when the plants have reached their peak cut the buds off the plane and trim excess leaps and the buds to dry in a ventilated bin and check them daily after seven to ten days they are ready to be put in jars and cured for another week or two therapy and we also know that different spectrum of lights are good for growing things like medical medical cannabis and also maybe vegetables or whatever we need to consume  but also it's also good for art work and bringing out different shades of debt laden right technique it's very experimental were shown experiment none of these pains come alive they are alive that's now and this is all they live by the way and we're going to hear from justin about some of the things we can look forward to right now and then maybe cover some ideas for future stuff right justin i sure i think this is just crashing the surface ladies are you know they've been around for about forty years and we're just now able to see the light at football fields with them so do you think we could come up with an idea for really be a mobius is for just simply put it in the soil and start growing plants that might be the way of the future the only way we might be able to grow food yeah well you know being able to grow it out to store live one of the big tricks right and that's why i have a lot of friends that are spread out throughout the area right now there are growing different types of plants you know from tomatoes to corn even fruit trees just saying what the limits of what we can grow at these early days in and see if the nutritional value is actually the same after afterwards yeah that would be the next big question research yeah yeah ye itself right there what you're seeing is each as that goes through the full color spectrum it pulls out specific frequencies and color out of my paintings want to time so as you as i've built it in layers you'll get to see the layers pop out and when you add them down and the glasses which is called which is the lens on them are called chrome like that and when you use comedy at the glasses you can actually see the depth of color from blue to red move something british in the loo phoenix lou phoenix new phoenix so i combined with music and lights in the right settings like there it's even better now that we can yeah yeah we can actually create some really nice environments we believe as you'll see on the website i had some help with a love fest in the past and we just put a little festival together that's where matt and i this where we've had to love that was a good time yeah i love the first two love fest you know the new national on the website there now if you click on the big picture of the fs there it'll bring up a whole  right now everything i've been doing is custom i have lights that i've been progressively been working on and making sure they're the lights and i can use for my designs in a side note on developing my own product line but mostly i do custom i go in and show you you know a couple things about light how it plays with your surroundings how to make yourself a little more comfortable in your surroundings i come from my background as i've been putting a mainstream shows together like that to go to koma dome in the gorge in places like that for the last ten years or so and i still read the shows and it's given me a lot of insight on how to use dynamics of light to really change our atmosphere at the touch of about medical marijuana to help the people that need it well you know a lot of states are making decisions about medical marijuana as a controlled substance the issue then is you know is it being prescription drugs the prescription drug program that now is part of medicare obviously has been very helpful but the costs have been growing going up and up and up so part of the affordable act health care reform also known as obamacare by the way you know what let me tell you i have no problem with folks saying obama cares i do care if the other side wants to be the folks who don't care that's fine