younger and younger over the years i used in front a story where there was a young man who in two thousand and ten started a new game called bubble ball maybe some of us are addicted to that  he made one million don't load off this it's exceeded angry birds whoa happen can you imagine it is known as the most don't don't loaded free game nor short so my company is socialised communications my story is very unique and rare but definitely becoming more and more popular like you said entrepreneurs are so young these days fourteen years old is nothing my seven year old nephew internships and getting that real life experience i was able to search doing freelance work and through that freelance work that freelance work became full time work and then when it was time to graduate and look for a job i did need to look for one and all those part time freelance clients became fulltime clients and then it just spread word of mouth and so what i do is and what my company does is i'm a publicist and i'm a social media strategist so it's about getting buzz for your business or for a person or for a product for a destination does it matter what it is and getting it out there digitally through social media that's the source social media portion of our company and then through prints and so in magazines or on television or wherever it is so it's about getting your message out there and headline is we recognize stay relevant because it's not about just getting where your front page of the post for a day exactly to keep it up  definitely weren't fetching coffee and water now really aspects and i got so as we go through the show we want to hear more about like how did you build you know those relationships and your team how did you take advantage of those opportunities how did this lead to where you are today because you have that out of right created your own brand yes which is fascinating yeah wow wow well we're talking and in terms of putting the show together you mention start your distraction feed your pal with the sent me i ha distraction so we live in a world where there's so much silly nonsense going on you know am i going to wear to this or what i'm going to do for that but walk it out focus on what your passion is focus on your destiny what you want to do and you're never too young business think about how much time you spend on facebook just reading all this crazy stuff about anything that means nothing i think that's really i think that's really smart that you bring that up because there's ways you can flip that and utilize it so you're you know i usually go back to my ex my expense being in finance if you're looking to see as a financial professional what changes are happening in the lives of the people around you because for them they want to they are they're focused on their war market how do i grow with my more market will guess what some are going to post on face book i had a baby i'm getting married right so you can utilize it here doesn't really show arlington i'm a big linked in person and such a powerful personal branding tool and it's an easy way to make introductions to people so just like you said instead of draining i always say  areas because you're going to find things that you love which is great and you're going to find things that you hate which is even more important because when you're first starting out you need to make a checklist of what you like and what you don't like and what you think you like you might eat and there are so many people that go through their college experience never have an internship and i can't even imagine that because then they graduate and they go look for a job and now they're kind of in this stock right situation want to do with your life so i think i agree with you because when you're big you have those experiences it's helping them to build the vision because i didn't know what i wanted to do in college you didn't know what you want to you know what maybe you did  i mean everything changed so that's when you started dabbling into different things and then as far as you know you asked me what i learned or what i took away from it or the whole experience is you have to go in with an open minds and you need to realize that depending on what the situation is or whatever the internship is no one's going to ask you to do certain things no one's going to ask you to go on set with them and no one's going to ask you to come with them if they're flying to dallas certain whatever it may be and you need to speak up and ask them how those around you to start building did you communicate i think i may start my own business and do you have referrals for me or do you have anyone that would be interested in meeting with me did you take those steps and i don't have to such an audacious move as it but i'm curious like how did you build so quickly did you leverage lose you know experiences in those contacts that you had to act like a star contacts for sure it's interesting because as you're kind of going through the situation you're figuring out how what's going to be the next step because you don't now i mean you're still growing you're still learning that i go into my internship thinking i definitely want to start a business after college so let me grab all the contacts i have no perfect world right but i mean it helped because i took all the information i could get i had a really interesting strange exciting fun internship experience i did three different ones one was totally red carpet glamorous hollywood new york city everything you could imagine was film another one was more corporate structured p r such were my p r a lot of my contacts and stuff through that comes through and then i did a whole social media internship so i did three and they were  and it was a complete whirlwind for me because i wasn't used to going into the city i was eighteen nineteen years old when i started then come on did you have a mentor throughout this process well it's interesting because i have a few  mentors when i decided i wanted to go into communications it was a couple professors that really pushed me and i had just taken a communication course as an elective and i didn't think anything of it and that's something else i would say try things that you're not sure about because it was public speaking and then it was a p r class and then it just slowly went into all these things and then it was like why she do an internship on social media actually do an internship on this and funny enough through the first internship i had i met someone who then said come look at p r and then i had met someone else through that that said come work social media so it can happen like that you always have to be ok been interacting and meeting with people i support relationships like i will stop you and one another term i say i'm persistent and get one thing that i wanted to point out that in my world i've had a few who have excelled you know in their careers that said they have and you may laugh when you hear this but i love it a board of directors you have a team of cheerleaders who support you and vice versa you help them they help you and create and it's like it's a way to not only build relationships particular angle eyes on those who really believe in what you do in your vision and reciprocate and it's a mutual exchange so you actually you're my board yeah i don't you have to have an open door policy if somebody comes to me and they need guidance or help absolutely and they would say the same thing to me of can i help you out with this or that it's not about getting something that's another thing to get me set min throw that out the window it's not about what can i get out of this or can i be on t v or what can i do now you have to do something because you're passionate about it and you love it and then the success will come and you have to work hard alternately and their sacrifices i mean talk owners who that's a lot of my favorite work to be honest because it's really giving back and seeing a difference but the amount of work is is excessive i mean it's such a sacrifice i sacrifice time with my friends i sacrifice time with my family  sometimes but ultimately it doesn't feel like a sacrifice because i'm so happy and passionate about what i'm doing and to wake up and know that oh i'm going here i'm going there and that's my job i want to pinch myself just because i'm happy it's not because i'm doing something glamorous it's because i'm happy and when i see my friends sometimes they're not happy or i see people every day that aren't necessarily happy and it makes me think why just whatever you're doing just take time to figure out what it is you want and little by little  there's no reason why it can't happen so i mean i'm going to steal your words i may be a little stingy or greedy with this question because i actually want to ask for myself i'm also an aspiring young entrepreneur or i'm in corporate america but i have a business it's just close so i can totally say it i can imagine being a business owner and they're waiting for their expert to come in and they're like oh my gosh that father you don't you know you have to keep your confidence and it actually works as an advantage for me because i stand up tall and i say i am the c e o and founder of socialize communications i'm twenty two years old and we're going to do this  said tells your story and i think that's why i think he things that i think i long people don't realize that when you show wall people really connecting with the essence of new you are you know how could you not just drawn to you you can't you can't be standoffish you have to be polite and everyone that's another key thing in my internships i didn't care if you were mopping a floor or if you were an anchor at a news desk i was going to treat you the same life and that's why you have to be in life and you don't just do it because you're in business you do it because that's kind of her i think you are i think that's great because it's being authentic people connect with people and i always say people no matter what offer you have they're not buying the offering in your mind you get their investment and you invest in yourself first because if you don't invest in yourself who will you have then it comes from there that's great so can you tell us about you don't going back to the experiences in college what you know what are some tips or how can college students utilize these internships and their overall experience to help them plan for their future career well first of all take as many as you can take as many internships as you can a lot of colleges require one and i want a moment universities so they required one i took three and they were all in the city and i got on that bus for an hour and a half in summer sometimes two hours but it was worth it and you learn so much so much that a textbook can teach you so much that a classroom can teach you because that's real work life and you never know who you're going to me especially in new york yet never now i mean now i'm so always be on your game but just take advantage of what you can do and it doesn't have to be this extravagant internship you can learn something from working anywhere and i here so anything i think to get out there i like that you point that out because you know even and you know reverting back to my college experience wasn't that long ago i think i remember a little bit now but i remember i experimented with big companies like the fortune five hundred and then i took opportunity with the smaller it was like a global research firm people that were local didn't even know they thought they confuse the name of the totally different company great research global research company there like oh isn't that the mattress company doesn't it's a research doesn't matter yeah i'm getting good experience and i remember i had taken that opportunity because i wasn't able to make it to an interview for a fortune five hundred company i had exams i was already not like no i miss the major  opportunity when i joined and then i had one of the best experiences i don't have for the company that people confuse with a totally different company but i was like you know it's not about how big the company is it's about the relevancy of the experience and making sure you're applying yourself so i love that you said that because for that i've spoken to a lot of students irie manager and they're like well i don't know i didn't want to put it on my resume because it's just a small company and also you know your experience is fantastic there's transferable skills a sister has already right yes it doesn't matter what you know some to put on your resume and else having to develop a relationship who knows who your supervisor noles that's right you know you don't rember in that workplace and i think communication they to go back to the point that you made earlier i think you need to actually explain these are the even think it should be up to the employer to to do that i think they should get those areas out what are your strengths weaknesses and purposely assign them areas that challenge them and also communicate if they're not getting the experience maybe or even that they were looking for so halfway through the internship they're like i don't feel like i've reached the potential i'd like to communicate with the employer and say can i work on different projects can i help you with other areas i want to give my best read i don't feel i'm really receiving the value that i thought i would maybe we need to take another look at things and have that confidence to say i want to help you in any way i can but i also want to walk away saying this was the best experience i've ever had and communicating even if i thought the conversation bill respect you more glee and i think i'm going to call out or in turn but she's behind the scenes so she's got a lo to be one step yes and you can get something done that they were then going to ask you to do exactly they make note of that they might not show it right away but break know exactly and it will only benefit you in the end and that's great so although you're still young in a confident person in this and always had goals but i would say don't be fearful of the unknown in other words what's the worst that can happen and i still use this in present day i always ask myself you know what's the worst that can happen you know you see a c e o or you see someone from a media network or even maybe just someone that you may be intimidated by what's the worst i can happen and that can translate into a million different answers but alternately if it's a no then you move on and you learn and you don't sit there wondering what is right could have happened exactly so i guess in my younger self i would say even though i tried to channel that as much as i could even more ma my mom for sure we're best friends and she's always said to me i want you to grow up and do something that makes you so happy and follow your dreams and your passions and i always had well you know i want to do this and that and this and that and she said well the job doesn't exist create it and that's what i did wonderful advice so obviously public relations exists social media exists but it's you need to find a firm that kind of does it all and i get to dabble in all of it and those are my strengths and they're also my passions so had i just straight from college when now and gone into the corporate world it wouldn't have been you could do this this and this it would have been are you doing p r you're doing social media marketing what are you doing so that's that's my inspiration right there that's on its beautiful and yes so interesting because a lot of us parents including myself when we have our kids we encourage them to get a job or most kids are going to college so that when they leave college they can go and get a job with someone then they are the employee they're not the employer and that book always rich dad poor dad always has to mean because because we're teaching our kids to be employees why can't we teach them are in cars and to be that empirical your but it's also the education system that's teaching that my firm we go out with your presentations all the time to stay universities and we teach about also entrepreneurism and you know if you want to create your own brand you can and we actually have a unique structure we can create it within our brand and have your own d b a which is kind of where but when i wonder is it taking a step further because i also want to pay you know credit how to all the parents who are working so hard and it is not only just the parents it's or it's in the school system they're going out every single day doesn't think need to change their where we're being you know the case competitions at the school colleges and know better and right and if you can get over that hurdle and i think it's becoming it's becoming work sceptical for sure if we're not there yet but it's becoming more acceptable and that makes me so happy because i can't imagine working corporate i can't it's just not for me and it's for some people and a lot of it is just not for me right and so if you have a good mentor or somebody that has your back and doesn't just tell you what you want to hear and really talk there any way that you could be able to help them oh oh absolutely please feel free to reach out to me i'm open and i mentor a lot of different people all the time and it's a passion of mine i didn't necessarily have someone going through the steps while i was so it's i'm on a different side so now that i've kind of been through the normal i'd love to talk with young minded creative individuals or even somebody who maybe is just starting their business and just launching and doesn't know the terrain doesn't know where to go or