following program is sponsored by seattle open door church yet all open door church is committed to loving god loving people and loving life our doors are open to whomever no mass required seattle open door church we believe for you to walk in victories you have to take those wounds those scars those things happen the past and yet to take them to the cross because if you don't take them the cross who's carrying those things you are and i know if you keep carrying the wounds and scars that you get again and over and over and over again you take those memories and you keep playing those memories over and over again over and over again who gets hurt in the end does the person that abuse you harm you or hurt you whatever they did to you are they getting harmed every time you think about that thing they're not getting harmed at all it's you see have to take it to the cross and i want to give you some examples of how you do that but i want to emphasize again that on the cross that is did what jesus showed his love for us by dying on the cross if you went through pain and suffering and really talk next week about forgiveness and talk about forgiving others forgive ourselves and forgiving god because some are blaming god for what happened to him but if you understand the message of the cross does god love you does god want you to suffer who chose for you to suffer who chose for you to suffer we do and the devil was not the devil's goal to cause us to fall short of because we've all fallen short then we all sin we all did things that could be harmful to other people and saw our suffering is based upon what the devil's plan wasn't based upon us i actually participate in this panic causing damage  others but is it is god's will for us to suffer does god allow suffering does god allow suffering sometimes to bring good changes in our life that it's absolutely true that that can happen if we have the right mindset  a little bit about that what it god the need these is done the cross he took our sins upon us and it was for us to be able to receive forgiveness of our sense but it was also to give us the build to forgive others and how many know that if you are going to walk  victor you have to forgive those who have armed you if you do not forgive you do not let it go on for good them you will not walk in victory now how do you do that and and can you do that on your own we're going to talk about all that next week we'll talk about but if you look at the cross this take a little journey look what happened jesus was falsely accused is that right have you ever been falsely accused does jesus know it means to be falsely accused yes so before jesus is even falsely accused in the courtroom he knows he's going to go quote on trial and we know it was a fake trial ok they were trying to find truth in that trial he knows he's going to go to trial he knows that norm and you go to trial and as for the death penalty you're going to get whipped him beaten before that he knows that he who has no sin has been taken the scent of mankind so before he ever goes to trial before he's ever tried and found guilty and receives the death penalty he's in a garden the garden gets seventy and what's happening there what's going on with in jesus he realizes going to take on the sins of mankind he is realizing that he is going to experience sin that he's never experience because he's fully god and god doesn't sin so he's having some mental torment some mental anguish anybody ever had mental torment or mental anguish does jesus understand absolutely so as he there he asked the disciples to pray for him and he says you guys stay up be alert some problem is going to be happening and can you pray with me and they say oh yes jesus we certainly will pray for do they pray for him they all to me went to sleep so then they went to sleep jesus comes back and takes three his closest disciples and he turns around and takes peter john and james and he has them do what go further away to pray with thing and so what do they do they still sleep so when you look at it say you know what i had whatever event it was this say that as a young kid somebody abuse you and if you grow up you know you always say over your head again where was mom and dad why weren't they did their does jesus know what it means to be abandoned absolutely the disciples should have been there and they weren't there  knows like when somebody isn't there when they should have been there so jesus turns around he gets arrested he gets arrest these going to trial and the next the and all they start mocking him what about when he is whipped what about when he's beaten what about when they took the whip those bones the metal on him and his are hitting him and they did that purposely because when they would hit him with the whip in the bones in the metals on it what would it do and grab hold of the skin and then they would pull on it what did it do there is shred his back if you read what we have here the medical evaluation turns around there they're ripping muscle on him so when he's taken that cross that rough rough you and cross and he puts it on his back to carry it it's against skin on the cross and is it on the cross there are saying what if you're the king of cain's come off the cross could come off that cross you should know me by now always a trick question there's always a yes or no could jesus come off nobody mocking what a die but what did jesus do he chooses to go through the pain that he goes through so that he could understand what we go through so many times when people experience emotional pain mental pain spiritual abuse physical abuse sexual abuse they always are saying what god where were you god why didn't you do something god you don't understand what i'm going through and then when you talk to people who go through dad it has been something that's happened thirty years ago forty years ago and you talk to them and what they want to do they play the tape over again of what happened to them and if it is facts them they can cry they can reap they can experience they have panic attacks all those things and i would argue none of what happened to them is their fault is that correct but the problem is because she can't give it to god because she believes that somehow that god should have intervened guy should have stopped or almost all of us say why didn't god intervene if god is all powerful and next week we're going to talk about more about that we talk about forgiveness but the reality is until she gets past out that experience what will happen every time she goes downtown even if it's daytime and she sees that alley but can happen the tapes are played all over again and what can happen panic attacks whatever it may be isn't that true and we'd say well of course that's the problem because if are followers of jesus christ believe that god gives the victory that i don't say of course she should feel that way i say through jesus she doesn't have to feel that way anymore do you believe that deeply that can happen you know how that happens you take it to the cross you give it to god you give it to the god that understands do you know there's people who go to counsellors for years and years and years and years and they're no different you know why because if you give it to a cancer he can't fix you you know and they can fix who jesus christ is the wrong to go to counseling others not to want to go to counseling but where we need do is to give it to to g s they take it to the cross before they do that go to your lesson i just want to cover a couple of things just in the physical side go to your lesson go to page three is the second sheet and if you go the various the is the medical evaluation part two and if you go to the bottom and talks about some things that happened is just the physical side is jesus on the cross and it says number one shell us are breathing causes small is the longs to collapse so as jesus on the cross is he having a hard time to breathe absolute having hard time to breathe decreased oxygen and increased carbon dioxide caused the city conditions in the tissues so jesus is getting less oxygen he's getting more carbon dioxide then it says fluids build up the longs make situations worse and for the harvest rich and eventually fails so jesus is going through the process of dying jesus chose to die he chose to die for our sake can i tell you something if you want to walk in victory you have to choose to die you have to choose to  die have to choose to let those memories die you have to choose to let those memories go you have to choose to let all that's happened to you you have to let it die bury it so this is how it takes place as far as if you look at taking the cross will take something simple and i'll take my own personal life how many of us something had to take some to the cross more than once i mean i made things across ten times the key is to take it to the cross so i've shared this before is that there's a message that i was told as a kid that dover lock is is that things go bad no matter what you touch it goes bad ok to this day do you know that life will show me that's true that mean everything goes bad no of course not but out of it is that life itself will tell me if i believe that whatever i touch goes bad do you know i can sabotage things to make them go bad i can fulfill that prophecy so out of that is i'm doing quote everything right but it we want to do everything right it seems like goes bad let me tell you something that's the road we live in do you know that every one of us can do good things can go bad but you know it doesn't bother some of you you were never told that things will go bad no matter what you do so you don't have that perspective that i can have so if i have that perspective and i don't take to the cross that whatever i do is not going to work right so i just see if i have this tape measure here i don't know i have a tape measure here and so it was dover's like everything goes bad when i go to pull the tape measure out what will happen it won't come out it won't come out i want to pull it out of breaks  just to fill the prophecy that everything goes bad right that's the mindset i'm going to have but how many know that rather i pick this tape measure up or you pick up the tape measure if it's broken it's broken ok but with you you don't have the message that ever the touch goes best so what is broken you say what a bad tape measure you put it away end of story right but if i am thinking it has to do with me i don't look at say that's a bad tape measure somehow i musta broke it do you see how you can live that way and how you're in bondage is that victory no so taking the cross has to be you know what jesus whatever my parents put on me as a curse by there's words that they spoke i take that that curse and i believe that the cross and some of the cross in every time that dot coms of the cross so when something bad goes on what i have to say i'm taking that to the cross that has nothing to do with me now here's the hard part i mean that there are some things you do that is the problem if i take this tape measure and i start can i break it so whose fault is that it's be so you see the challenge to find the balance so what you have to do you have to walk in the spirit to know the difference so what's what do i start thinking if i was a good pastor right and all of a sudden comes what i had i had to break that cycle i had to take it to the cross you know i do it this way did i said jesus you know what i'm not the best pastor there's pastors akin to a better pastor in the me that the reality is i'm a fallen human being i make mistakes i got flaws lord i'm taking that to you and i mess you to forgive me at any error i've made forgive me and then i turn around and say but you know what my heart god if there's any impurity in my heart you show me but as far as i know my heart is sincere i want to be the best pastor i can be and lord i can't go by what other people say do you know that you can't go what other people tell you if you live with the baggage of the past you're still letting mom and dad that abuse or somebody say to you who you are and your identity is what they say you are and so if i take a crush and i say jesus you say that i'm your chosen one wow do you feel like your chosen one sometimes you don't but if you take that thing the cross you know what the word of god says have passed ridge is really quirky he is a peculiar person ok as soffit that might be true but i read my bible quirky does that mean i'm a human being what society say you're so you're worthless carmi tells me all the time nobody is like you you expect people to be like you know human being and earth is like you ok you know what that's true according to the word of god nobody is like you you're very somebody great nobody is like me i must be the best there can be no i must be the loser again it's what we do how we do with that in our mind so here's what happens in the midst of this is that we have to do is when those lies come to us based upon past experiences we need to take it to the cross and we give it to jesus we say lord i give this to you so this take it something deeper because right talked about it it's pretty easy to talk about it because not than really bad has happened in my life doesn't terribles happen my life but take somebody that turns around and uses example many times because i can relate to how something may be your back and how the dr when you run over your child would that be hard  it makes me cry if i think about it i can see the image in my face and imagine if i had my son what if i backed up and i killed my son i can put myself in the experience even right now and it could be devastating so one of the first things that's going to happen is when you do that you know who you will blame you're being yourself but you know who else god because i'm a christian i'm a pastor i'm serving god with all my heart and i just ran over my child god sent an angel to push my child out of the way when that be a god in your mind when you got to put an angel why didn't god speak to my child to look up and see the car coming in to run me come up with a lot of reasons to blame god god you're all powerful you're all loving and you end up in control you certainly could have protected my son from getting run over those are gentlemen things to state into the thing but you know what happens some christian comes along says you shouldn't think like that if you really were a good pastor you wouldn't be questioning god you don't think there's some spiritual person that will say that that they're so duper super duper spiritual they would have no problem with  i guess you want my son to go home with you how many people really think that right off the bat and i think most would who's follows it if you ran over your child is it yours did you not run over your child who was driving so whose fault is it it's you ok why do i say that the truth sets you free so let me explain now the same way you counsel somebody the first thing you say to him yet your fault you're did i'm not saying that with the face whatever goes on you have to look and say what part is my ownership ok i was my fault and maybe i didn't look this way to look at my mirrors could you've done everything right though and i've seen your child yes so what you have to do  say is it my fault or not did i check everywhere if i did it is not my fault it's the reliving of fall and world what if i'm playing with my radio i'm looking at my phone and i'm being distracted  back my son whose fault was that that was mine why do i need to know that that will stop me from doing what next time playing with the radio looking at my phone i'll be more alert so we have to look at see what part is me so that i don't do repeat the mistakes but at the end of the day how do i take to the cross you know a lord i was a responsible when i backed out of the driveway and i asked for your forgiveness please help me to forgive myself and if you go to say lord help me to forgive myself can you give that you the ability to forgive yourself but you know if some people believe i'm too dirty i'm too bad i'm too evil to go to god i can ask god to forgive me because i don't deserve to be forgiven so how many people heard that years later people are saying what it was their fault they did something that was bad there was a consequence and what did they say they take over again i'm no good i'm a miserable human being how does that fix what happened without bring my son's life back no and you think my summer want me to be feeling guilt the rest of my life no so there has to be a place they take that guilt and take it back  saw him running right are as mother should have been watching him and watch somebody tell the mother that and so then the mother has the guilt so you're talking about the father but what about the mother whose son as you have all that going on and people are telling us this that everything else we have to go to the word we have to go to the cross and we give it to jesus and so we turn around and say jesus you know i should have had my eyes open i wasn't paying attention please forgive me and then what does he do he forgives us but what do we have to do receive that forgiveness and receive that forgiveness we no longer walk with that guilt and if we don't walk with that guilt we walk a different way we live a different life so can i tell you if you really take things to the cross and you leave you know we take these across but we pick them back up we take it to the cross as soon as we see a little baby that looks like our son we're going back to the memory again how you know you can't stop the memory i mean  dysfunctional to stop the memory but do you know that you can have the memory and not let it control you see that's real victory you can think of the instance and it doesn't affect you so you could see a little kid and and it looks just like your son and you can feel the sadness the sor of losing your son but you also can go to gonna say you know what lord you give me strength these many years to deal with the situation will continue to give me the strength to walk in victory lord i'm not going to be controlled by depression i'm not going to be controlled by suicidal  controlled by guilt and shame and how is that you give it to the cross you take you to a cross you take it to the cross you take to the cross so a point is that you can give a testimony you can talk about what happened to you and it doesn't bring sorrow to you that's the power of the cross that's the with jesus did he took on everything and we have to give it to i'm so whatever is happened to you is you literally if you mean if you have to literally walk to the cross i mean literally you walk to of the cross if you have to go in church and in a psalter time investment you have to do think about it if god told you to do that so you're going to physically walk to the cross there but it may be in the middle of the service were singing and all of a sudden there's something that god speaks to you says you need to take that memory you need to take it to the cross and you're not going to want to write who want to walk in front of everybody in the middle of a song service and walk up to a cross and they'll down at it and pray but what if i was that tell you that if you do that the pain the embarrassment the shame of doing that is minor compared to the victory of giving it to god so if that's all it took is in the middle of the service of the walk up to that cross and you gave it to jesus and you really gave it to him you walk up and that memory never hurts you harms you never challenge you again was it not worth walking up to the cross and my last point is if we're going to take things to the cross we have to take up our cross if we're going to take things to the cross we have to be willing to carry the cross and i would argue the cross that god has to carry when we get the victory over what happens the cross we carry is so minor because you know the cross really is to share a testimony that's the cross we carry is we could bury that memory forever we could go to drugs alcohol so it never haunts us again and now the drugs and alcohol haunt us i mean do that i mean give it to god being give it to jesus and then our cross to carrie is that maybe sometime in a mad meeting mothers against drunk driving meeting is that you step in front of somebody who drove and drank and so you testify of the experience as a parent the lost a child because of a drunk driver that may be the cross that you carry but that cross that you carry can change somebodies life so is it really across i don't argue when we have victory and we share a testimony it's not a cross it's a privilege it's an honor to be able to share with god's done for us we need to get to the cross this close in prayer heavenly father i pray that lord there's people in here that have probably some of had some terrible things happen to them some things that even as i talk to get stirred up in there maybe could be unhappy what we're talking about they may be saying if you knew what i went through that you would understand that there's no way i can take this to the cross you don't understand the pain the hurt and the right i don't beffa the god you do when jesus got on the cross he took on everything everything imaginable he took on every sin there is every pain there is he understands and i pray whoever may be watching this lesson they would have that understanding that god understands exactly with the wind through and he's begun he's asking of them to take that event and take it to the cross to leave it at the cross to give it to jesus and to carry the cross of a testimony of being a person that walks him  moving beyond the past are you having a hard time to forgive others to forgive yourself or maybe even to forgive god will see an open door church as a series that we're doing called moving beyond the past years some of the sessions will be covering what is healing past hurts who needs healing the prodigal son god's forgiveness face to face encounter with god the power of the cross forgiveness an inner healing intervallic bitterroot judgments closing open doors breaking every curse breaking every deception be filled with the holy spirit i want to let you know that you can live the victorious overcoming life in your deserts can be turned into glorious gardens if you want to learn more go to our website s o d c dot tv forward slash moving beyond that's s o d c dot tv forward slash moving beyond this is basta rich do you need to know jesus christ your lord and savior jesus said behold i stand at the door and not going to be one hears my voice and opens the door i will come in robust intervenes as recalls upon the name of the lord will be saved john one seven says you must be born again acts sixteen thirty one says believe in the lord jesus christ and thou shall be saved and that he wanted things as repent you and believe the gospel where you accept jesus christ as your lord or if you want to get more information you can always go to our website to learn how to accept jesus christ as your lord and savior you can go to there is hope t v died or that there is hope t v die or and we have information on frequently ask one eight six six one god you have been listening to there is so with pastor richard over through jesus christ we can live a victorious life seattle open door church located in  committed to loving god loving people and loving life seattle open door church once you know that regardless of where you've been or what you've done god loves their doors are open to anyone and everyone their services are sunday mornings at eleven seattle open door church is located at six twenty five south west one hundred forty ninth street in period next to the 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