is that which is with john watching that which is presented by m s i a the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to awakening the spiritual heart within each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual advisor of m the founder and president of the institute for individual and world peace founder of the heartfelt foundation and other organizations dedicated to improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and he has been teaching and conducting seminars for many years  john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about them as i  certain habits produce adrenaline rushes with them and the adrenaline rush gets to be addictive almost everyone in this room has got this to some degree or another some will do it through anger they get angry almost everything and explode and yell that sets up the adrenaline rush in the body and we get addicted to that feeling much as we get addicted to drugs or  alcohol the feeling is a good feeling and primarily it's not a negative thing the reason that it's considered negative is because it runs you rather than you run in it so now you have to look at a way of if i can't stop that which is going to be next to impossible how do i direct it how do i channel it into things that will assist me and others around me this takes a a type of managerial planning and primarily it starts out with having a goal you know if you say i don't have a goal then you come back to who you are  if you can get a goal and this is you back here and you can get a goal here your goal starts to move towards you as an appearance as you start to move towards the energy field meets and the goal doesn't stay out here and actually comes right here and so we hear the comment i got it sooner than i thought because if there it's if it's a true goal and it is ours we are somehow connected to it sometimes by thought sometimes by feeling it's rare we're connected to it physically or we would have a back here this is not a goal this is just immediate results it's called here and now if you don't have a goal and this is where it would be in it's not there then you come back here to what it is that you want out of life maybe it's money maybe it's peace maybe it's help maybe it's to be left alone and there are a lot of goals of people have and there are a lot of immediate goals medium range and long range goals but there's a thing inside of here that if you are going towards this goal and it's a good goal but going towards it isn't happiness because you don't feel you're getting the goal right now or sooner then the goal itself when you get it is going to have an happiness in it because you're bringing you know along with you so when you get it it'll be a disappointment it w what you want to or what you expected so i tell people that's the wrong way to get a goal and they become surprised that i say that but it's very simple it's called a crazy method let's say that this is someplace you're going but you if you're happy now and you start just moving in your life with happiness and if you stop right here you've had happiness all along and it won't really matter if you get your goal immediately because you're happy when i was getting ready to fly out here to this area i thought gee that's a long flight we have to stop and change airplanes then they put us in a little airplane to fly us for another four hours and it just was not a happy situation i could of flown all the way to here where i would be happy very distressed very unhappy except i would be unhappy and i like to fly  the weather was bad the plane was bouncing around a lot so what it didn't need was more unhappiness it didn't need me to yell at the cabin attendan or go ball out the pilot what it needed was me to ask that the negativity and i couldn't are set up by going into it because then i would have made them on the plane somewhere another maybe at a threatened with a bomb or a gun i may be distraught to spit on them you know something whatever would work  that was set me up to another goal called i go to jail going to jail doesn't hurt the feelings of unhappiness about it hurt so inside for we've got to come to solve this when the plane started bouncing around i just looked around to see who was freaking out so i could have something to do no one is freaking out so i considered that i would freak out i would have all the attention to myself but then i would have nothing really to freak out about because the plane smoothed out so i just decided i would do nothing so i relaxed and decided that whatever the plane did i would be fine with that i chose that immediately the plane went into bad weather so i just thought this is like riding a horse don't know where you're going to come down there's a plane bounced around i just hung on and it got kind of hilarious because it wasn't like any horse i knew what it would is smoothed out and for the most part we had a quiet trip the key in there was what i chose and i chose to take the happiness of coming to miami and keep it with me all the way when we got in the fort lauderdale which was a surprise i thought i was going to miami but it was close enough that i settled for that and when we got him it was just a matter of reviewing the day very fast and i had a happy day except for one thing when i went to get my car a car rental i pulled up and they had the car sitting there with the motor running on the trunk open and it was dark it was a big lot lots of cars but they had my car so i felt good and fortunately the girl was there to help check me out we closed the trunk i got in the car and drove t security gate and now came a lady's name paula balls i know her name because i looked on her card that was on her she said give me a contract so i thought all right gave it to her she read the numbers she said open your door so i open the door she looked at the numbers and said you have the wrong car i kind of suspected that things were going downhill couldn't that so i said all right they gave me the wrong car she said you can't take this outta here i said i don't want to she said you have to take a back and i said would you like me to take it back to she said where you got it i said i don't remember where i got it i said oh i scuse me i didn't know you were hard of hearing and i got out of the car and i walked up to now said i don't remember where i got it she said i can hear you ok i said that it was parked up there someplace along one of those rows of cars she said well didn't you see it when you went up to this lady wants a fight ok she looks like she's ready for it and i said no when the fellow brought me in i was sitting facing the middle of the vam and when i say we stopped he told me that your car outside and the lady was there so i didn't have to know where my car was because they took me to i'm one of their preferred customers if that means anything to you she said a do back up right where a policeman was the said absolutely no parking and just parked right in front of his car got out walked inside and i knew i would get help pretty soon because a policeman couldn't go unless we moved my car i on the edge of warfare sure i was brinkmanship walked inside and i said hey that lady up there well let me take this car out the jews sign for me and i loud like this to a small room and they all turned around so what the hell am i supposed to do about this and the lady that check me out come running over real fast and said s i'll help you fix it so we went out she looked at the contract changed the numbers on it so the match was on the car she said that ought to do it i said are you dyslexic she said yes said what's your number writing down you get i'm wrong it's good thing you got a nice guy like me to practice on grab the door just open and smack to really kind of hard i said oh jeez i thought you knew better than the stand that close to a car when the doors opening how long have you been doing this so long enough them so what are you going to do about it i said well i think i'll just write to whoever you work for she will do that so i did the letter was sent to him already now i got the car and took off and i was happy because i was happy to get here i was happy to do what i did there are a lot of unhappy things on top but i made sure the happy and or nice stayed there because if i drove away from their upset or her then i bought her upset in us and made them mine now i'm not going to have fun with anybody i'm just going to be upset those are choice levels i didn't want to win anything i just came to get the car i didn't care about there for and i just went to fly on a what i was concerned about was how i am now in that description you heard me go through a lot of different things but underneath i made sure that i was happy no matter what this one here could be sitting down very quiet almost asleep it's very peaceful it's calm it's trying to cool in that place i can't really be disturbed people can work to disturb me but the way they can disturb me is for me to come out of that place up to where they're disturbed which means i got to get disturbed and yell back at them to let them know i'm with them and sometimes i'll do that and sometimes i won't but the key issue is i'm free to move off it i'm free to move up to it i'm free to move off it but you don't have that freedom unless you're willing to to be acceptable to be receptive has nothing at all to do with flying or driving or anything else it has to do only with me inside the only thing i have control of in this room is what's underneath my skin and i don't have control over everything there because someone's automatic god has control of that but i have control over how i care to presented to me listen carefully i have control over how i want to present my emotions to me because i can present them angrily i mean nice quiet i present them they don't present themselves unless i've got a bad habit of just exploding and then they present themselves to me in the explosive quality that isn't something that comes easily because you have to come into those qualities where you're more apt to explode and not the way you do that is the same way you played the piano at carnegie hall before you ever get there you play many recycles you practice the piano often and so when you get there everything is flowing automatically it's been well prepared few of us would think to do that to our life here the same way we might practicing to play carnegie hall but we're playing the instrument of our humanity every day or we may play at carnegie hall once and then we may never practice again in the human body we have to practice continually i don't know if you people have known but if you ever noticed it just doesn't let up shifts but that doesn't let up even in the moment when you're peaceful and you're quiet and you're calm which means you've come to your center and your very own with that a baby's cry and a horn is honking the t v is too loud somebody wants something the phone is ringing you get hungry you have to go to the toilet you know start journey someplace and itches there's always seems to be something sometimes it's big sometimes a small this is the biggest negative factor dealing with all of us on the planet all five billion of us and it's called who's in control or who's who are you trying to run me that's called why are you in control as long as we're in control and this is an extremely porton thing to remember the most gigantic one you'll ever hear out of me here if our control is threatened we will die for it this is why we have localized fighting all over the world this is why one town in florida may fight against another town in florida who's in control control is the master addiction along the addictions we have control is the master if we give up control as miserable as we are as terrible as it may seem as poverty stricken as we are we may get something worse because we won't be in control we've looked at fighting in her so govinda bosnian serb able and i've heard many people say why do they stay there why don't those people move well some of them of torment trying to get them to move and when they don't move they kill them so they move them  anyway if you're muslim when you're over in croatia you might as well shoot yourself because the others are going to but at least they're going to have to do it over your dead body if you understand the control statement i will die for this is the ultimate control statement it's very difficult to live with a controlling person and so we get divorced now if you get one whose control levels ninety let's say that this person is that ninety percent and they marry the second person who's at forty percent they will get along fine because this one is the boss and this one knows one says i control my household and this one says that's right except temper send the time i'm sleeping with another person and you don't know because they're not going to let you control their life they will let you control this part that you think you're in control of and as long as this is a man and this is a woman as long as you're bringing in food money protection clothing you can control but if you don't control everything like sexually gratify me well i just got here find somebody else for a while will i tell you no because you're in control you'll kill me i'll never tell you it's called the secret what does this person do with their ten percent that they got left which equals one hundred they also have somebody else out there because i didn't get one hundred percent over you up take the hundred percent the rest of it and go get somebody else i'll show you are good even and we're looking at the dynamic of why people do this to each other now this could be a female or a male or this one could be a female or a male doesn't matter this pattern works regardless of our sex and our sexuality and our color or anything else or how rich or poor most all of the things that have happened in the bible like right from the very beginning the issue was who's in control as long as god was in control he created and created and created an evolution of life just went on beautifully because there was nobody to challenge the creator along come lucifer and says let me take the message down and create the earth and i'll return all the souls to you and god so that's a pretty good way want to go to trial and jesus came along so let me go down and teach them that they can choose to come back and god said that's fine too but let's let loose for see what happens loose of first failed because he rebelled but how can you rebel if you're in control because god gave up some of his control to the others and they went off and rebelled see the problem with control is rebellion if you're in control and you keep in line with your orders on line of thirty you get promoted up the ranks that's the value of control you know which way to go the negative values you know which way you're going out so when somebody kicks you out they're kicking you out of control you have no more say so so what you do is then as you pick it from the outside trying to obtain control by holding up signs and you look around our universe in our civilizations and you see this going on who's got control and who wants it and so they strike saying let's take can do this fifty fifty or fifty fifty means nobody's in control so they say fifty one forty nine and they say no just you'll be in control it's not an issue of money it's an issue of morals and ethics it's an issue of power who's in power there's ultimate game that can be played but we're not going to get into that today how you take power by giving it all away that's and that's a real trick when i want to tell that to people or be a fair bit tries a little fail before me if you know it's very successful if you love someone very very much and you've got things planned out that in your mind are the ideal scene if we do this honey everything will be just like this you forget that she comes from a different tribe and comes in with her own sets of ideals and things that she grew up with and said if we do it this way it'll be ideal most two won't fit on top of each other and i think the clash if they would fit they would bland and hold then you move together but you can't move together when you're busy clashing and fighting for who's in power so one must assert more physical force power to overcome the other one thrown down all of the games of chance all of the games of sport almost every game we play has an element in who's in control and we know who's in control by who whims and he wins who endures to the end so the end one will be in control but the end one will be the only one here and there will be awful lonely in control of nothing and will be nobody here and they won't know how to control themselves or they won't if they did they wouldn't feel lonely did feel superior but  end result is loneliness or aloneness we have to sit down and agree which areas you're going to be control of which i am which you are which you are which you are which you are then we all get to take so we call a president vice president secretary treasurer this committee this group disorganization this committee this group and we line it up with rules and regulations and as long as we all follow those we all get to control our area we have get to say what goes on our area and we all hope it's right so that we never get challenged in it or voted out above us or whatever the masses are not necessarily who's in control it's the power ones who are in control because if you take all the chinese and the japanese and put them at war against the united states will have almost all of them killed within one hundred days by forms of nuclear bombs that are much more powerful they're not named yet in modern vocabulary it might take five or ten across all of china japan there will be anything living there you know maybe a german microbe but that would end it if it came down to power but who has power has the threat of control also since we heard that north korea had an atomic bomb the threat of the power of the tomic bomb taking control over that area caused us all to react and to really start to go after them and embargo them and punish them and beat on them so they could not have something to challenge our control when i was in syria last year so there's no way israel should be scared or frightened of syria first of all there's nothing really big in syria and damascus that was once called the pearl of the orient is now the trash dump in the local sewer heap it's not these are not second world countries of third world countries these are fourth and fifth world countries you could bomb almost everyone before they could get the national guard out of bed you know and i don't mean to put them down negatively i'm trying to give you a relative set of ideas and see how ready they are vs how ready we are now most cities and countries have seatbelt laws if you don't wear a seat belt if you get a ticket if somebody is going to force  alarm you they must immediately force the ability to enforce it and then the way they do that is their time to close the door the signal comes over and straps you in and that's the only way they can do it other than that you just will not do it one thing for sure they're setting up controls that are independent of who's controlling what and those are called rules and regulations and what do we do with rules and regulations how many of you here drive a car how many of you keep your hand up people hand up how many of you if you've gone over the speed limit any time if you've done that keep your hand stop you freedom is equated with no control no boss north already no power that's your is like what your freedom equates to freedom doesn't equate to boss some we can back say you're the boss you go ok i'm the boss now here now you're the boss now you're the boss and what are we concerned about we get out of the ego feeling of how we feel because it's addictive like angers or addictive and we just say what is the goal that has to be accomplished and how does my control fit into getting that goal accomplished you have to lay the plan out so somebody else buys your goal it's called marketing p r sells unship you've got to transfer your vision into their head so they own the vision and take control and run with it but then make that make you feel good because you're getting what you want done which is that the control you're getting exercise is getting the results maybe it's money maybe it's land maybe it's getting rid of something whatever i mean every defines that  karmic flow but i know one thing that's very important once you lose control get out of the area as fast as possible because there's a tendency for the one who takes control to want to beat the other one if you go up if you see two kids on the street fighting and one comes at the club and hits the other person and if he takes a club away what's he going to do with it he's going to beat the soup out of the person who bought the club so once they grab the club you take off running hopefully you can run faster than they can with a club my dad told me once you're going to fight never take a club with you and i said why because you know it's like you hit him once he says they take it away from  they'll bash your brains him oh my god they would because i would never talk to a lot of people to go yeah i would involuntarily i'll just on will swing back on them and that's just the addictive quality of control working there's a thing called i want to get even but it's not i want to get even if i want to get even and in control so they can get back at me that way i've gotten even if we were just to get even we go i'm sorry i'm sorry and that's even then we walk away but we walk away mad and angry and we're waiting for him to do something wrong so we can jump on him with some point so when you say ok we're even get away people say how far is it so they can hit you overnight make sure they got to travel to do it in other words make it really a problem for them to do it then who's in control the one who is making the most problems is in control of the other one says i can make more problems for you than you can handle guess who's in control me until you say sorry i'm not doing them any more and now you've taken back your own control and i was looking and i go fine but do i know if that i really believe you can take back control only verbal e y the something bigger called gravity got control over all of us so what do i do with gravity i play with us i use it to play tennis basketball or use it for games i don't use it to fight and say compete gravity is not going to control me because i know i'm going to be at war inside of myself with the inability to control gravity so i don't do that i don't know so you see the idea of choosing away shows you have ultimate choice and control because you can choose the way you got it and walk away but you walk away fine if they can't get you con you back into it and that's why a lot of people war turn phone now there's a bar he knows the streets around his area it takes his kids school by going out going to around the block about two miles on the way to come in the back way because it's all neighborhoods and there's no bars in the neighborhoods it's against the zoning and they leave and go back home the same way but if you want to direct you to go right to commercial areas where there's a bar after bar after bar he knows he would stop for just one and then i handle that real well so i'll just do another one and i handle that real well so i'll just do the third one by that time and gangs up on your body in bandages drinking you don't even on so there are these things where you have to know your temptation and how to handle it and to me it's like avoid avoid as much as possible but i'm quite sure most of the seek our own come temptations every day we seek it and i would just say dense enjoy it rather than do it and feel guilty about it or not enjoy it hope you can overcome it but everybody's got their work cut out for him one way or another everyone in this room let's just say i wasn't pornography films and i like to watch go to these adult film stores where you where you're going to little booths and you see whatever you want to see if it's there that i would that i would go into the adult bookstore and look around all the things turn around and walk right back out not purchase anything  look then i might go in till i look all my go as the same thing as always then i would go back into where the shows are and acid and then i put a quarter in it and maybe i'd watch all the way to i'd get up  overcome i wouldn't go right in full blast to because i'm already caught so i would come in a very slowly overcome walking into a food store ike ice cream store walk by a lot of times don't walk in the new walk in you walk you look at what all the ice creams if thing are and then you walk out the next time you walk in you look read all of them maybe walk out three or four times you finally get one cone of person how valuable is that to you and your guy threw it away because you're more valuable until finally you can eat what you want walk out and go do something else it's like these  just one they go oh yes i can eat one of the oh well maybe you're right in the to the real real great advertising about addictive control patterns we put down the worst there it is a whole people see it they're telling you eat our stuff and get addicted they didn't say that they decide are bad and since we want to be in control we'll take the bad almost all the time of something better something even if we think it's wrong we'll bet i'm one for boxing with no matter what they choose i choose the other one why well makes it more fun to watch it but one thing i won't do is bet money on it nothing of value so there's no sense of lost it's just a loss so it's when we place value on it that we've got to watch out for what happens and and of course lot of people get involved with something less there's value one something some value something and value is is defined by this way what they can use with what they when that's what has value they can't use it has no value so when people talk about value i think that's what they're referring to how do i use that what do i get out of it what's the value to me and i just say stay away from these words are very easy to say up here talking to  they're not easy to live when you go out that door everyone of us are going to be up against that but we're going to be further informed about it so when part of it shows up we're going to say that's what he was talking about he didn't use those words but the idea he gave it fits and turn around walk right across the street you get on the other side you go yeah what happened control came back to you and you're going to see i can control suffer steam comes up inside of you sad feel real good you walk down the street car and peaceful knows of the by products of the things that you've overcome in your environment and then yourself you start to have peace why you stop fighting with yourself as the first element of change in peace is give up i'm not going to fight i'm just going to walk across the street then you stand across the street look back at the store from across the street if you have to but remember the eyes are always hungry and if you keep looking back at that store the hungry and of the eyes are going to take you right back into that store to exactly the things you said you just overcame what  enjoy yourself i mean if it overcame you don't fight it pig out at it get out of there and resolve once again i'm still going to win this i'm still going to do it don't put time patterns on because then when the time goes by and you have overcome it now you get to feel bad and you fight with yourself you get to feel guilty get to feel all those things i don't feel any of those c just say i lost on that one that's the results i'm going to be stronger next time you will be honest to god you will be it may not be measurable it may not be noticeable but when you look back over ten times you can see where the one fit in there you say if that were in there that would have collapsed it was pivotal and i'm of the school of thought the says get it while it's microscopic because it's a cinch by the inch and it's hard by the yard knock it down to the inches and just handle it it's a more happy life it tends to have a little boredom in it but it doesn't have chaotic psychoses it has a nice firm direction when you step on something you know you can step there what it does is without wanting to have it to the ego it gives us control over our beingness but more properly the beingness comes into control and we don't then have to try to control anything because our beingness is controlling everything i everyone in the room has that but we rarely get past our ego in our personality so if we have a triggered trait of anger or just triggers and we just explode and we could just shoot somebody or or walk out on our hear them or whatever that has to be treated more psychologically then it does and what we're talking about here they probably will need a lot of therapy and maybe some medication to help hold the temper down until they present them with situations where they no longer trigger going to stand when a trigger trade is focused like you cock a gun and you pull the trigger to just goes off and kills that's what i'm talking about it just goes off and the person themself doesn't know why if you can find that on them when it's genetics it's inherited if you can find that on them when they're very young then you can train them that that is a defense trait and they only use it when they're being attacked and that type of energy that is released kum punch holes through walls there's been stories of children picking up cars off their folks through the power of the trigger of anger there is a value in it but after it's used then the body goes toxic because the adrenaline other hormones are all over in the system and the person doesn't detox from that and the way is water lot of water and physical activity maybe go for a walk for half hour till you feel it calm down because it will leave you shaking like this and people are shaking they think it's out of fear or cold it's the results of anger in the body and if the anger is not been worked out to start to poison the system and many people that have placid exterior interior they may be a volcano and they'll die of arthritis heart attacks or cancer that's where that goes to kill there's no need to die from that because now you may say what else a regular exercise program drains are that energy field does that mean go to the gymnasium and work out for thirty minutes every day no means walk around the block fifteen times or how many you come back home you fill it drain off and also will release fat on the body it will release other things how the body so seared vantage the worst thing it will do is it'll kill you from toxic syndromes so i'm not saying exercise for your health i'm saying exercise for your life and it's nothing where you come back sweating it isn't that type of a hear exercise it's where you get the blood circulating and you you warm up the system you may perspire a little if it's a hot day but it's the idea of circulating and having the toxins drop out one person said well what i do now jerry's i take water with me and little of canteen while i'm walking and when i come back i have drunk all the water and it really works real well now some base found another drink that they use that has  electrolytes into and what it does is you're using now all of your knowledge towards your betterment the things we've been taught in school in universities in workshops if we don't use them it's just another leaf blowing in the wind and if we start to use them we now become more healthy wealthy happy loving and caring and sharing and then we share the prosperity abundance and riches so natural overflow when i'm in those nine or ten approaches i am always at peace i give things away when i'm at peace i bet you most everyone does except if you're throwing something if you're angry i'm talking about giving it away handing it to somebody here you have this and there's a lot of love goes with that piece because the peace  seemed to be intertwined looking back over your life you see there's nothing you can change in this probably nothing you really would want to change you would want to make if you were somebody else but being who you are you did what you did because you did what you did none of it's a good or bad it was what was there at the time and you did that i would look back on as having completed and if you can't look at is completed you can say it's completed it's done and let it go sometimes our mind goes back to see is it complete that's a bad approach because of for there isn't you know you're back there again anyway and they'll be something they'll end up having to be down when i say that's completed i go on and if it's not somebody picks up brings it to me but they've got to bring it to me right here today because that's where i am and if they bring up late like i said this was two weeks old they go yeah weeks and i didn't give to j r like i was supposed to so he could have answered a week and a half ago and i would be writing you his answer instead arbre i'm writing you to explain why he hasn't answered your let i said to make a carbon copy of that letter because you're going to be writing a lot of those is every time you missed the deadline it will be yours to answer only happened once when they realized i wouldn't do it for them that we had to be mutually responsible to each other when they got that they became responsible the other work people around them in other words it started to spread and it makes things work better but that took me to be firm but i didn't have to be angry i just said i am not going to do that i didn't say you messed up my life i am not going to do that you want to know why you kept it too long i can't put it in now it's time was them now i have other things whose time  here and i'm doing them once you get this idea that i'm talking about you're going to find your life everyone find your life settling down so there you do things very easy in a very clever very efficient effective way and have time left over to do many many other things but you won't feel the distraction of things pulling on you i go i got to do this i got to do this and i go do that and this and that and this and there and you get nothing done not even right here if something happens to you right here you don't spend the rest of your life thinking about this this is over shortly so they say break out of the room you should drop everything you had up to that moment and leave and let them clean up the junk in here but move out of the way it's just an easier way to have that peacefulness going if they don't clean it up when you come back in the room you clean it up also everyone in here is working towards one john rogers closing words were a sand which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you've heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey of a soul call this number one eight hundred eight nine nine two six six five you can send e mail to service desk at m s i e dot au our gene or write to that which is post office box five one three nine three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one dash one nine three five this has been that which is with john roger thanks for joining us we're done intercessory work between the negativity and mankind and we're praying and people are saying pray for the peace of jerusalem they're not just praying for this city but some are their visions too short they got to pray for the jerusalem and all of us