record previous to that sent to prison and i know why they did it because when i first read blood lines that women out of ten years ago when i first read some of his books i was still in a learning process and we all are continually i was like you know what's that a lot of this can't be true on our new a lot of it was turned out separately already researched it but some of it was just so outlandish and over the years separately in my own research from even mainline sources i found other and his book bloodlines the women audie of many books he's written is is just so important and he's been out of jail now for about a year and is able to speak now and today i didn't tell him only what i want to talk about he's on but i'm sure getting on every few weeks  and how many of them are in prison right now very few who thanks to your assistance were able to make the bloodlines available and then there's about a half a dozen others that are available to people you know naturally assume that someone who's controlling the world thinks like they do but these people do not think like you or i they have a totally different mindset and they view us like he wouldn't you know if you stepped on it as you're walking on the sidewalk you when you can be concerned about it well people can go to my blog and read some about me that's one way of getting a little introduction another little introduction right here at the time is i'm a follower of christ and that's what's important in my life it's not about me it's about christ and it's you know i have had a very u nusual life where i was six exposed to a lot of different things living overseas traveling overseas had a father who wanted to save the world by going to third world countries and developing their agriculture and like you said i went to west point and as you were saying there i was concerned about things that are we seeing when i was in the military and i didn't feel comfortable being in the military with with the mindset that i saw around me so i resigned and some people thought it was a reaction to having been in the military that i turned around and joined the amish but it wasn't wasn't that it was i was looking for something that was outside of the system and it's hard to find anything that's that wants to  warn people about what was going on and so that's what i've been doing these these last few decades is is warning people just like yourself except last it's about christ and and the truth of what i'm saying you know one of the things that they try to do to shut me up is they try to tarnish the reputation of the messenger and as you know you've been out there you know how people come out of the woodwork to say all kinds of crazy things about you it's not about me you look at the truth of what i'm saying look at the documentation look a research these things for yourself and you'll start seeing it all make sense and you'll start you know you'll start putting the pieces together for yourself i'm not asking you to take my w for what i was saying earlier is that when i first read some your books more than a decade ago a lot of it i could confirm because i don't separate research but some of it sounded so far out but over time i would shepherd lee even establishment publications find large pieces that that added to it and now as my understanding has gotten deeper that's how the globalists see it we're asleep they're awake they are programming the subconscious and they're trying to create a totally fake false reality so they can deceive people and that's what you were talking about decades ago show show show let's get into it crystallizing it for new listeners what is the illuminati or who are they who do they serve what do they want what makes them tick and then let's go over some of the family ok some people kind of cringe when they hear the word luminati like like this is a word that they really don't know  conspiracy nut is using or something this is their own terminology when i started trying to help people that were trying to excuse from the illuminati members that have been team together that was their term for it that's the term that they normally used now in in rituals they may use terms like the family or the circle you know don't write the circle on they may use other words but the term illuminati is the word that they use them sell and consequence of that view right there and they have that view for for many thousands of years this isn't something that's just come about overnight  they have a plan they and this lion has an agenda and we've been in a great transition in recent years to bring the entire world under the control of the beast computer which is a link to the internet so you'll notice that there's been an increase a model i have a really call it over in europe they really call that particular computer system the world wide beast and it just standardised global system in fact from davis yesterday homeland security put out a press release and talks about the global centralized computer database to buy and sell that was in a press release yesterday sorry exactly so this is this we're going to have these handheld devices in our hands that won't even need memory because story memories going to be redundant you're going to have these we're not beyond such good broadband devices that you can tap into the world mind instantly but the others can then also erase whatever they want and certainly brings total control exactly so we're all being sucked into this one world mind one global government we're all going to be like little adjuncts little fingers of of this beast and little cells of this beast we're just going to be as they used to say cogs in a machine you know and it's becoming increasingly that way but a lot of us are considered worthless eaters and so he there's been a number of the written agendas you know henry kissinger had won but there's many others where they have outlined on paper and sometimes publicly came out with these things where they want to get rid of a large share of genocide so dab is at the heart of their agenda why that's true and you can look at it from several different directions you can say well these people the evil that they're doing would require them to to justify their actions by being satanists or you could look at it is gotta think it's very beautiful you know they have a lot of allah high level rituals and very sophisticated rituals rituals that go back to antiquity they still carry out some of the same rituals that were done in ancient egypt by the pharaohs and rituals that go back to ancient babylon on the names that they that's going to answer several the questions that you had we had a scandal that took place in belgium to do troth aaron and the europeans discovered that the were assassinated to keep a lid on it now here in the united states we had to kennedy assassination and we had nine eleven those are in tree points for people to learn that something's wrong but even closer to the heart of things was this do true affair where where they were were they actually discovered the satanic connection to all of this because a lot of people realize you know wall street just atheists the don't don't have a religious side when you saw a cremation to care you're beginning to get a window that there's something more to these people right so this scandal exposed the satanic side of this and hell the governments in europe were protecting this huge network of child slavery and child prostitution they would have belt lays in this castle then i exposed and so the book that you've been been presenting to people blood lines of balloon audie they came out ninety five it was the first place where the public got a real good look at that mother of darkness castle that's like a headquarters for the the female branch of the illuminati that's where the grand dames like bill clinton's lower than hillary ellerey clinton becoming a grand dame that means that she would travel to this castle and do rituals and the castle was also used for  the nice good front where the press shows these people and their their suits and ties and looking intelligent and wise but then there's this ritual side this hidden ritual side  you're someone like hillary and you're going to miss the shot toda all mariah and i don't speak french so i probably butchered the name there but it's a castle that i exposed i found out about a council nineteen i mean one when i was working with people that were trying to get al luminati these were were people that had done rituals in the castle and knew about it by the way let me stop you again i didn't believe your book when i first read it and then the sunday times of london came out with a separate castle in burgundy where all these women escaped and the cops got there and there were a bunch of dead women and women in cages and it turned out it went to the top leaders of france so the whole thing got shut down but this actually came out in the news after i had read your book years later i saw the same stuff yes earlier you ask a bell some of the names of their gods within the women's branch we were talking about the mother of darkness castle there near monroe belgium and kind of rituals that will go on there there will be hierarchy rituals these are high level rituals and these  aluminum body members are programmed multiples there are multiple personalities so they have personalities that are in the rituals one like for the women there is a tr bones it's admitted they worship you login there which is a hag but i mean let's continue to break this down it's just incredible you're saying this it sounds wild but it's all right there if you've done the research y an psychology this isn't new it's just a modern packaging they themselves come from a programming cult that's what these rituals are ancients learned mind control that's why every ancient society tortured had human refined made the king sometimes kill his own kids it's all about the priest class totally dominating continue with the women and then the man but who's at the head of it continue well within the women's branch th so you have all these rituals all these committees councils of thirteen as a sanhedrin of seventy you've got so many different organizations and one thing i notice twelve members of the congress and the president the thirteenth again always counterfeiting christ yeah they enjoyed that number thirteen for these coun running the show in a like we would we would thank you because what happens is you're born into the us and you're as as somebody who's been born here even if you rise to the top and even if you have a lot of power you're still signing on to the plan the plan was created you know it's a group it's an and it's something that's been going on for a long time so they have long range plans so these agendas are just snap decisions that they are the idea that they were there would be a third world war has been around for for over two hundred year old the three wars yeah yeah so are these things are our ten year play ends thirty year plans fifty year plans hundred years and they have these long range plans and then they have these war god uses to sustain the world truth and things like this and there's a twisting of those things and they make a system out of it so therefore you have end up with the health care system the political system the financial system like wall street the banking system you have a system of control and so to get these necessities of life that we feel we need we end up linking ourselves to these powerful controlling system gets about overthrowing creation becoming god taking things over so we have to go to them as if they're god and we're born into a giant lie not just mind control but a physical lie that's how they try to take freewill away exactly you said it better oh i didn't know you're absolutely right to continue on this line telling us oh you're free you're it is there that you're making that decision and you know yeah like like the american people how often have i heard people saying well you shouldn't you shouldn't complain about your president because we were the ones that  know too much money too much mobility and so you're going to see you know i did states humble yeah i'm sure there are multiple reasons as to why i checked people law  several books on the mind control and that's why i wrote the bloodlines book it's not a casual topic with you know it's very important and you'll notice like the rock childs which is one of the inner five families back in the eighteen twenty six i believe it was it became there was a newspaper article that came out how the family had organized a meeting of all the heads of the family and taken a stand in the family doing it intentionally and they have brought in some outside blood but but basically generally they're they're pretty you bloodlines are pretty pure as far as being a luminati blood and there are some reasons for that they pass on generational curses they pass on ok are we losing connection here no no i can genetically able to disassociate me come program multiple personalities and most people are not able to do that if you torture most little children they know they'll just curl up and die it takes a special disassociated abilities and this is something that developed over thousands a year so yeah they're they're not like us and that's one of the things i might emphasize to the listeners because so often times i hear people trying to extrapolate what these leaders must be thinking and they place their own thinking upon  a lot of subplots within subplots was in some plots and they create conflict because the way they like to work is through controlled conflict so just because maybe mean that they're not on the same team means that's the way the luminati were like just deb each other in the backs thanking her that's the way you get the best the the best person who is going to rise to the top  i like to call it the glove that fits onto the hand of the illuminati you said it very well they're used and a lot of people are unwilling lee hughes they don't see the bigger picture for some reason they just they just blindly go along and they're in a good old boys club and there's clues all around oh as to what's going on but like so many people they they're not really analyzing what they're doing or what they're involved with  center pretty well is that you know you have a mixture some people are have their eyes open and realize what's what the bigger picture is and some people just participate in just blindly continue to support something that's working for for the elite yes thank you for the privilege to be on your show and this to the great topic today because it's something that affecting all of us it's this police state and i just want to build upon what you've been talking about in the last ten minutes which was you you did such a good job of describing all of these things that are happening around us you know like the theme of coron and the rest if we don't look at history and  i love history i love to go back and and examine things if we don't look at history as they say then we're forced to repeat it and we have a good example of how a police state can be created successfully the nazis needed a consensus for their government to work and yet a large share of the german people had strong reservations about the policies of the nazis they didn't believe their cosmology and a lot of their other it yeah and what was the bottom line the main tool that the nazis were able to establish that gave them the social control to carry out their policies and what it turns out is when you examine things and the same dynamics are working today and you've been describing some of them the same dynamics that allowed the nazis to have success are happening today and those are what i wanted to talk about the most important tool that they had was none ca sion now another popular word would be  the connotation that you're you're actually talking you're actually informing the place on a real criminal so i want to use the word denunciation and that is where you become an informant where citizens are turned into the eyes and ears of the police state and they start turning in people as a thought police that's what happened in nazi germany and how did they manage to get that to happen and how  happening here and in this country my son in one thousand nine hundred was going to a protestant school and i found out that he was secretly being taught in the classroom in a christian school nonetheless to spy on his parents and when i asked the teacher well who's who started all of this she said well she got her training at mama teacher's college at the teacher's college here in oregon and that's helped they train the teacher so even in christian schools the teachers are being trained and certified by the state and they're already for quite a few years have been training our students on to spy  on their on their adult having been in prison i'm very conversant with the prison population are not i can categorically without adult say it is not done by some police investigation though they have they have child molesters and murderers who will go call out a preacher with no record in the jury sense of a jail i mean they use professional liars w known criminals to testify right there was even a company to help them do that it was called conviction consultants incorporated it would rip around and the government would pay these these rats about quarter million dollars to come in and lie through this with this company from picturing him so that's how they don't know i mean i mean i could but folks she said understand the system has no credibility and i guess until you've experienced it you just don't realize how evil the system is getting  in getting this consensus how when they took over power when they were voted into office they started applying brutality and terror and the police now these police forces were were officers in general that were inherited from the weimar republic they weren't nazis but a lot of people will follow whatever they think is a legal government so you have a lot of people today that don't realize how illegal our government is and how so many of the laws and things that they're doing are illegal so they blindly think that whatever's been said they need to follow so what you had nazi germany was it was an import and that that the rank and file of the government and the gestapo believed most of the gestapo were actually not hard core nazis what they were or were cooperation is all that they need so it's more important that the government has a party line that's that they establish a party line because they know that a lot of people just like today will cooperate with that whether they wholeheartedly believe it or whether they have reservations or not they will excuse the following it by saying well that's that's who's boss and and that's the will of the people you know we voted hitler into power blah blah blah when i went to west point i was shocked because it was at the tail end of the vietnam war and i was this was in a scientific poll from talking with my classmate it's the majority of them did not believe in the b non war you know the vietnam war was very unpopular even with even with the officer could it but what was scary to me was is all of those classmates that were against the war were quite willing to go over and be officers in vietnam if that's what their orders were in other words they're setting their their conscience up on  following orders doesn't doesn't cut it writing down how the nazis were able to do a couple of things only the general public in shutting out the of fear and beat the peer pressure of being shouted down but all show get the military and the police structure to follow orders incrementally and they firebomb the reichstag building shortly after hitler got elected and then use that to get more power he didn't get elected with a majority vote he got into one of the houses of parliament because they have a president and a chancellor and then after the reichstag sick and had a stroke then they merge the two and he became the fure to keep everybody safe from the terrorist that blew up the capitol the capitol become supreme ruler that's why you've always got a look  he blows up the capitol ok who stands to gain from this one but herrmann during was there within minutes course he was the one running around with the troops pouring gasoline everywhere it later was declassified running around it's his following orders hitler also created the as a that was like a good force of not really police and military because they couldn't get the police or military early on the do all the stuff they wanted who would just go beat you up as a gang or who would then enforce on you and of course he called those guys after he fully came to power and the establishment actually like that because they were disgusted by the t s a type folks but that's what this is all about and they just create a culture look at all the cop shows all the movies where the cops are always good to f b i is always good there might be government corruption but it's a rogue group you know the people on top are the crooks then you do have good people and police and f b i at the lower levels generally but there compartmentalise need to know and look at fast and furious look at what that shows us shipping guns into mexico the media's like why wasn't just selling them at gun shops or shipping on a mexico was given to drug gangs in florida it was giving them to groups in illinois and texas and running stang's with fake i d s that were real i d s but fake issued by the government to shut down people legally selling guns they just want to shut down good people they want to dominate them that different springmeier you are bringing this up because of all the subjects you could have raised today i think this is a good one you pick but why oh why raise this point think building upon a there's a whole bunch of things that you said that i can build upon a one of the early earlier things that you mentioned was about magazines and so forth and that's what happened in nazi germany too is that they used so called public magazines and newspapers to to start as social control if you were a german woman and you had sex with a jewish man why  local newspaper that was run by a nazi party would come out and they would call you a shell made chicken which means sinning woman woman of shame and they would print your name in the paper well how many of us have gone through the grocery store and if you're going through the checkout stand look up there at the gossip rags you see you see the same things happening here is that people are are being surrounded  things that they would start were were started on the basis of police actually seeing something happen all the rest was based upon reports from snitches and other agencies public agencies that would snitch for them that even when they were porn i saw a new article about this today neighbors sees a gun they just go ahead send the police to somebody's house and the guys in the clear in the gun is garage and they'll shoot him or they'll tell him come out and call a swat team and they're like but my guns not illegal and it's like it doesn't matter we're you know somebody call the doctor called you weren't vaccinating your children well there's no law against that well the state police are still here we're going to take the child because we do they may be in danger but there's no law that they have a shot we're taking your child will where's the warrant we're taking your child again they're just getting is used to not following a law and tattle tailing is taken like like a golden sacrament from heaven because they want to encourage this the only power you have as a citizen is just snitch and that is a god like power now that must be worshiped yes so well said i was watching television i don't watch a lot of television but i saw this lady that was there was a new story on her she was being heralded as a heroine in the television news and wanted she done well there or had been a group of men in a car driven up to a gas station they were dressed like any americans but they looked their complection looked arab and she called the police because these arab looking complected men had driven up to the gas station and she was being heralded as a hero and i mean talk about something that so lately against what this country was founded upon the declaration of independence the constitution they were there they were totally opposite of where they're taking people where you're a hero for calling in someone because they look like they're arabs wow and  another interesting thing that i noticed from history because i was studying warsaw warsaw was a city in poland where the nazis establish what was called a ghetto they moved jews from all over poland and other places into warsaw and then later they moved those jews to concentration camps and i would ask people the listeners out there how many gestapo do you think it took to move something like and i don't remember the exact statistics but ballpark figures maybe a half million jewish people out of the warsaw ghetto in in a whole series of moves how many well it was only a dozen something like it doesn't just stop will police were all that were needed and the reason why is is because all they did was over see what for sixty minutes and by the way they've removed it everywhere you can find the transcripts and short clips and he said he it's one of the best times of his life is a quote and then that's held and then when glenn beck dare criticize him as being a collaborator with the nazis the a d l said that was anti semitic to see if you actually helped nazis round people up you are loving and of the goodness but if you're not a nazi then the jewish courage show you are i mean again it's incredible it's absolutely incredible just how evil this system is and but it was also the compliance i've watched the footage of coming in as seventh day adventists  their hand and and say thank you to the soldiers and running to be shot the women would walk in their babies and be shot and then i'm a weirdo because that's not happening with me say that's not happening and you see people not resisting there actually was some resistance in the warsaw ghetto there wasn't much resistance against bull pot in cambodia the good news is fred's five million guns a month being sold an all time record and people say it's because they don't trust the government so i don't think is going to go that way in america frets yeah there are have been some positive things happen like back in may two thousand in canada the people discovered that there was this huge data bank that can can ada's human resources was keeping on people their human resources department they gave it to give in to this law name longitudinal labor force files that's so typical of our government to come up with these large names anyway the canadian people within that month got that stopped and shut down so there have been instances of where the people said no no we're not going to take this and on you can look through history and see those those events happening and of course we're not taught we're not taught the class risk taking one to one when we go to school and so how do we take risk you know how do we step out and and not just be reactive but how do we be proactive like you are being on your show you know well first we have to get beyond our fear because fears become self fulfilling prophecies you know defensive thinking is rooted in the past we have to move forward be proactive and we need to have faith we need to have hope these are the kind of things that i really want to to encourage people to have is faith and hope you know so that they will move forward in their were forced to take risk in life you know that all of us are forced to take risks so so what do we do do we we run back to our fears and tr to have security you know helen keller said that security is mostly just a superstition you know it doesn't exist in nature she said she said life is a daring it been true and i dare to say you know that's what you and i embark on i'm is a daring and venture you know we have our we have a rough moment so i know that you you've had your rough moments i've had my rough moments but i would rather do that continuing here do you think we can turn the tide against this what's your gut because i do see people waking up but i don't see i don't see them really then taking action no and by that i mean we need to boldly call this system out and and totally discredited because just like they want to shout us down it is a battle of wills they're so immoral and so openly criminal that if we just expose them and say no and resist with noncompliance they're not going to get away with it they need our compliance exactly they do need the general public's compliance if they're going to effectively and that's why they continue to have the charade that we elect our president we don't select nor do we elect our president it's the process has been totally hijacked but as long as we continue to to be fooled into thinking that we select these criminals to run this this country people will continue like the church oh well we have to obey the legal authorities well excuse me but these authorities are no longer legal  know to to put me in a prison they probably broke twenty or thirty laws easily you know laws that carry far more time in prison and what they they put me in prison for but nobody's going to call people to task for what's being done you know jury tampering blah blah blah you know it but the thing that it is is people need to to stand up and be good people good people will stand up and and you know maybe you're asking me are we going to be successful i don't know if we are aren't but i do know that we have a choice to make as to what kind of person we're going to be are you know are we are we going to be the punk that's that's a prison term are we going to be punk by these these power hungry people or are we going to have the dignity of being decent human people decent people that say hey this is not right and it isn't right and like you say calling them out understand the dynamic of power here and i know you know alex is that power generally demolishes the users carry her and so it corrupts total power totally corrupt and we see these people some of them may have into at the deepest levels running national i know they're in control of society they're trying to get greater control their own in total control but they're not a control of themselves and from what i've read what i've researched what i've seen but a lot of experts have said is that the fifty years ago one hundred years ago was more focused more dedicated more professional and there's been blowback and more careful i would add blowback of the drugging of the electromagnetic in this culture of death at the highest levels of the elite are becoming more and more decadent they don't have a lot of really hard working people at the top in a more like david rockefeller and that's why we're seeing such a crazy g m o getting out even hurting the elite reactors nine out of ten leaking the elite don't care you know they would let the troops used to you until ninety nine and now they let him use it it's killing him i mean they've really gotten a craziness to them now where they're just acting like they want to destroy everything is there a method to that madness doesn't care who's thundering on as long as he has a job to do his research and these technocrats are going to run the new world order form because they're just there they're not looking at the bigger picture and thinking what what i'm like subscribing to and i goes back to nazi germany again most of the gestapo police were not hardcore nazi party members now eventually they got integrated into the nazi party but even then the majority of them didn't have their heart in in what the nazi party wanted to read and most of the major mainline german reports i mean this isn't propaganda is what they themselves wrote heinrich himmler and others when they were would camp would vomit and i would throw up and not want to see it get learn never want to look at it either they just scientifically said we're going to do this and then ordered people to do it and that most of the top n would gag and throw up but it was all part of acting tough and they were willing to do it and they were punching the buttons i want all you phony environmentalists you know something your carbon taxes will kill billions of people on record but other points you want to get out here ok building upon the social control one of the effects of the so called control has been to hide the a lot of the solutions that would give people hope  that the taurus is a donut shape and it's the shape of energy fields like the magnetic field tornadoes the galaxy i would go so far as to say the shape of the universe is a taurus but taurus has been used by and been or is to create free energy machines but all of this has been suppressed another thing that it's difficult to present why there is so short control even to the extent of murdering people that come up with these alternative medical solutions they're there are there's a lot of research there's research in to help to reverse the aging process by supporting the teller that's the end of the d n a they're now saying poisoning but because you are trying to get medical help there is going to say you're mentally ill and that's on record they said we were mentally ill that there was high levels of radiation and they got caught lying so it's another example as you mentioned decades ago they now admit they can reverse the aging process in insects and rodents and humans the elites how far advanced are they technologically from your sources inside the illuminati them that we know because it's obvious they've got to break away civilization but what can we prove frets well i know of cases and i don't know the reason why it's it's very selective but there are selective individuals that are actually living hundreds of years they're living transgenerational but this is this is a very guarded secret and i don't think i've ever said what i just said publicly because they're pretty sensitive about that particular issue so they do have and i actually from from what i know there are things out there to give us healthy lives we should all be living to at least one hundred years old productively own but of course as you so aptly demonstrate they keep poisoning and they keep taking away our nutrition from our prudent from our soil  there they're working all over time to try to do to steal our health and it seems like our culture is cooperating with again we had that go i shall too that the nazis carry out their programs in a gentle yeah i'd love to be back thanks for having me alex you bad get more into the fact that they said that ninety six percent of d n a was junk of course they knew that wasn't the case that's why it's an antenna even mainline science is now saying that right right they were years ago they ridiculed the tele murders on the end of the d n a and i was really upset because i have faith in god and i know that he didn't design this body and create something that was worthless in there and i didn't know what the answer were for the tele murders but finally the three scientists got a nobel there's another thing stem cell research i could go on and on about different medical advances but the general public is not being told about and i just encourage the listeners our listeners out there your listeners are like diamonds diamonds in the rough and i just encourage them to on their own star investigating all of this suppressed technology and all these suppressed medical  methods that could bring them help them become self sufficient in taking care of themselves that's right get out of the system that means mentally start investigating don't believe what we're saying just start investigating on your own start being wil be skeptical thank you so much for spring