there's a basic cable package for people who don't like to play around with the antenna rabbit ears and that's always been a big strong her to her offered to him as well as people who i suppose you now have these premium channels some stand up comedians doing their ninety minute specials where an hour humor is geared more toward the well funded than the downtrodden i mean it's always been that in the movies too and so  get something going mainly of course known for movies you know watch movies in your crew and the film they were out after tonight is montage of hack you can say i am actually kind of bugged that my idea gone stole and right and not not an idea to do this type of film but the title you know if you look back at my old postings when  internet was young and the word blog had not yet been invented i think the log was came along after you know my initial internet columns like all the internet columns i thought those perfectly good sort of  term before you log in and blog came along and you know a lot of the program back in the day today we're not going to do if we do any montage in this program we'll just because we  to say before the fifty eight minutes is up but you know today you can create your own montage it's not that big of a deal to grab things off of broadcast and then rear them i mean it was very daring do back in the day was some game show where one of the punch lines was snow killed kurt cobain and it was obviously a jab at me it was actually specifically a jab at the idea they were trying to put across the idea that i had failed to file a program because i got snowed in and i had this long streak essentially unbroken streak of new programs every week so i mean in a way it was a very backhanded compliment because they were saying how we caught him  walked up there you know three or four miles and you know icy water filed my show you know at the last minute as i almost always did a few minutes before air and so now it's also on the internet as well on this seattle channel that's at a community college which is a state agency but it's the city of seattle the employees there are loyal to the municipality meaning basically the cops you know the seattle cops etc etc stop the cops really rob everything except the big money concerns in this town right anyway complete my thought there you know a lot of my program was based on the idea of the appeal of montage so there were lengthy montage segments sometimes sixty minutes or fifty eight minutes sometimes you know half the program that a half hour monologue or interview or whatever but i'm on time is a very important thing but because of the internet content is not really that important or interesting anymore you can sit in front of your computer and montages yourself as you know  you just you just dial it up you just type in bring fields movie and you know you get it for free remastered by the b s i high resolution you have to the extent that his little sixteen millimeter camera was that capturing cable footage of the ruling stands for the early days so just like this thing it's more a matter of sitting down in front of his you know these days just a laptop and doing an edit job on  hundreds or thousands of little images which he can even hire somebody to do that i mean it's the advertising business is based on getting people to do the creative work for the creative who are right although he claims in interviews that thing back in two thousand and three that i went out and got it you know are on a rental and because i heard this is the documentary that's going to change how documentaries are made and a brilliant use of animation blah blah blah and it turned out to be a bunch of blah blah blah because the animation is not impressive and what holds the film together is that this a robert evans guy used to be the head of production of paramount to maybe he was and as this morgan guy brett morgan explains books are allowed longer than screenplays you know a screen treatment he says goes on for maybe thirty pages and then as he is often done in the publicity for this film which i've just looked at for like fifteen hours straight believe me overnight almost all my writer says that he also says i mean it's ten pages you know what i mean so this is his way of backing off on all of the various instrumental treatments but the songs are so familiar that you'll be humming along and tapping your toes and a lot of it as i think i mentioned before out there in front of the the deaf a lot of it is just repackage of stuff that's been in the reading festival film you know unplugged the with the lights out box all these different things take up like half the film just concert footage twenty pages of it here and we'll try to cover that but what i'd really like to do is just make it clear you can you can cover that the full content to this program of this two so because i have so much material and i think that a synthesis of all of this is best treated by trying to share as much of the real information it's possible we're going to honor the term spoiler alert and say we're going to give you the whole friggin movie right here in ten minutes or so by just running through our notes on with i don't have it on me but it's a little baby flashlight and notepad earlier today i opening titles based on materials provided by the family they want to make it perfectly clear this is can be a new state kubina family indorsed and that is actually the real news the aspect of this how is it that all of these people who each other up until what twelve months ago are now all best buddies and in total accordance on every aspect of  inference instead of kind of how did that happen and of course you all saw this happen before i get started here you all saw this happen if you're paying attention in the news you know the how fast at the rock n roll hall of fame where they had kurt sr his half sister his mother the two bandmates the three bandmates main bandmates and then also c l see yourself in it and it's worth mentioning because it was actually a pretty truly amazing moment that after the celek and roll got up there and did their well rehearsed little speeches about you know how glorious it was to be in the cob courtney love steps to the podium which is the you know the magical podium that you know people actually this one was in brooklyn i think not in cleveland but you know this is where the greatest of the rockers come to divulge the wisdom that they've gleaned from a years on the road years in the game as soon as the c l c starts to week there's some applause and then there's the majority of the audience so it seems grooming and groaning is really showed is that it's a rare showbiz phenomenon when people want to believe but they're just too much in show business to actually be who is if you want to boost somebody down so you get see said that her daughter was very ill and could not make it to the ceremony it is always a word that you know it's not it's not some middle class language where you're saying not feeling well at all or something it's ill ill like mentally you must've been out of your mind not to make the scene right but then i heard about those dramatic developments and the big hug not far off the sunset strip that's going to be rude knock at the door the person that you had a restraining order against for years suddenly shows up as your neighbor because what i guess the restraining order anyway so to get on with divulging the content of the film all at once this morgan guy is said that there were farts and things underneath the universal pictures title because it's h b o and universal that he was you know terribly funky and rebellious to do that i didn't hear any farting i heard a voice saying a mercury spacecraft and this is in the vein of the montage of hack of audio material that is important to the conception of the film which is based on something that's been out on out sest aside for so since you know the mid ninety's this is been available to anyone who wanted to put out in the old days it was like thirty dollars for the disc and it was like bootleg and maybe it was from italy or whatever so the basic materials been out but that's only like ten minutes and apparently there's thirty eight minutes of the mary and he was obviously able to do a lot of these shifting and the pitch shifting is really what i'm trying to say and slowing up and speeding down and he did he did find some weird things on  television presumably if you ever heard this one one bit of audio that stands out maybe this is actresses voice he says  and so and it's distorted the speed and pitch is distorted and it's weird because he is trying to evoke no mare audio sensations and basically succeeds and it's also kind of funny anyway so there's the voice than of cobain saying come here i want you to see something presumably cobain not exactly certified and then it's a clip from the reading fest where cobain like you know two minutes into this film he's saying party on wayne because he's got this sort of blondish fright wig on and i guess he looks like garth from wayne's world and of course in my conception of this it's a  beyond the grave thumbs up because in some respects i am the real wayne i did grow up in a rory no kidding so anyway then cut to kim before she's actually introduced the sister i'm so glad i didn't get that genius brain then wendy the mother praise was hard for him to take and these are direct quotes although they're not complete quotes obviously then cut to know the selleck and this is from the the reading festival film you know as it has been released you know so it is talking to the vast audience at the reading festival in england with the support of his friends and family he's going to make it and this is because kurt is acting like he says you know that the clues were quote plain as day i should have said something which as a matter of evidence you we have to recognize there's no the selleck saying yeah i saw all the clues i knew lots of yeah i guess you should've said something about the airport security for instance a guy like that's not safe to go on a plane is it or at the very least his why are you now river and then he falls over and dies and this is a spoof of bette midler in a film called the rose where she plays a courtney love like character but prior to their the rise and fall of courtney love especially prior to her rise so it's kind of a role model for c l c and then there's some territorial pissing music and they want this  cobain's mother saying america was booming after the war definitely clues you into the fact that every word of this from at least some of the subjects is very planned out which is the neat and clean way to do a documentary after all is and it's the easy way to do also you could argue the dishonest way of doing also it's a way that probably requires you to pay  real life actor it's because they memorized things they were cursing them they're probably doing multiple takes most people in the movies get paid for that right so w dionne aberdeen it was a lovely awesome place to raise children that my children loved that town except for kurt who famously hated it right so when wendy cobain i think is the name that she often goes by wendy cobain or o'connor has has a tendency to make everything seem very disney fied very light and airy and wonderful except for of course the conduct of her son and bringing about his  that stupid club you may recall is her most famous quip to the press so there's all apologies on the xylophone over some films a very young kurt cobain they shot a lot of home movies  of course there were relatives in the you know the the the low end of the record business and country music business so there was an expectation that maybe this is over here kid could grow up to be a  ritalin to with three or four year old well that's precisely the impression that's given because she's talking about it while they're showing films that are not of him is you know an adolescent but as i got three or four year old so that's  bad filmmaking and you know represents a bizarre responsibility the filmmaker to to present things at least somewhat factually even if it's in the you know these impressionistic term and then you've got wendy saying dawn that the dad would ridicule him and kurt would be shamed it hurt him to be embarrassed like it hurts everyone but why why is she you know digging in with these code words this early in the film and shamed it ridicule embarrassed well that's because she's introducing in a very direct way the theme of the  something that this is this is what led to his demise and then when he goes on you didn't get a divorce in these days which makes her look like some kind of feminist for dumping dawn apparently because he wasn't polite enough to kurt is the way it reads in the context of the foam then you get a little bit of don himself who's never done a video interview before neither is wendy by the way and and then also don's  current wife jenny who was kurt step mom for a while and she explains you know their point of view on why done incurred in jenny's split was because he did mean things to the kid he was kind of competitive for their affection and this is not really pushed out i mean did this mean things like saying mean things and then these mean things like you know on showing them in the face and really they don't really sort out how terribly guilty he may have been but those familiar with you know the the legendary divorce tale and all that would know that don is good excuse for a long time of having dislocated hurt shoulder and i don't think he's ever confirmed or denied the story in any case then there are you know you know all the decline in sports family status and they've got these pictures of him looking out for the ocean like  bobby kennedy after j f k died you know the contemplative photos of like a ten year old kurt looking out over the sea how strange but you know i mean they went from documenting the story of the young star before you could really understand what was going on to actually photographing him in these men is that anxiety as he entered adolescence persistent and then there's more stuff from the fifty's likes truth about radioactivity and i mean this is a filmmaking technique which you know might have been good back in the early eighty's now it's completely hackneyed and completely pointless and a waste of time and you know you saying that he didn't have time in the film do include everyone he wanted to or more of the people that the five to seven people especially wanted in the film because it had a lot of this crap which is just filler i mean it's classic story has nothing to do with anything you know old black and white newsreel footage and us anyway but jenny gets one of the better lines because she says that what bombed him out was the whole family rejecting him and that appears to be part of the case then we get some sense of apprentice and that's an animated stuff with kurt fighting  shark like the jaws shark which seems to be a sideways reference to the fact that he visited universal studios the jaws ride as a kid and they show you some toys from his adulthood the toys he collected as an adult it in the montage which makes no sense at all it's dramatically out of context because they're supposed to be taking us from young age to older age bad continuity and then you hear this  vacation and i met this girl and we thought there's something weird about the tone of his voice it's it does sound like cobain but at the same time it's like he's a fictional a writer  doing a sort of gary's cue or grungy raunchy sort of garrison keillor telling of a short story which i don't think i've ever heard cobain adopt that that  type of delivery on anything so i'll get into this  you know although the field is being hyped as a film which is has some shocking stuff in it this is the most shocking thing he says it's the most important discovery he made but at the same time he makes statements that would lead you to believe that cobain is telling this story and that the story is not necessarily real hanging out with these white trash kids he calls them because they could score pot and they took him over to this house where there was a girl who's in special ed class and so he creeps like a voice that's being advertised as his actual voice and then he gets a reputation at school as the quote unquote a retired fuck her which causes him to go to train tracks at eleven o'clock at night and body at all obviously but what's not obvious is whether this is a story or not and it's important know that well he says morgan says  some of his publicity that no one knew about this stuff but none of his friends had ever heard this story before which is completely wrong maybe if they thought the trolls are across a book or looked at it on the newsstand or her read some of the coverage of it you know charles cross has this story in his head a bit heavier than have and which is like from two thousand and two i think and aberdeen and the story as it goes is that kurt was trying to have sex with this attractive girl named jackie and then wendy walking on them just as they began to kiss and get naked and then the girl was chased out and more or less curt was chased out so that kurt goes over to the special ed girl's house to satisfy himself all of which i think did not exist as a matter of fact or anything else for sure he crossed came up with school who was able to attract the attention of a lot of the cute girls and it shows cobain to be somehow you know at the under the peer pressure of these so called white trash guys to go window that he is but i said he was a professional liar and he said yeah i'm a liar and you're a something you're a nut or something like that anyway so that's the retard fucker story and then they go fake they started this project eight years ago thinking a few minutes of voice would not be difficult and the sound of it is not really that convinci quite possibly fake fake fake anyway then they go on to laying it school over over the edge which is an idea i had his favorite film over the edge where the kids take over the high school and more of us burn it down never got around to that so he beat me to it twenty one years into this it's such an obvious idea that's probably why i dropped the idea and anderson early die video he blends voices of the interview subjects which makes them very meaningless i've never seen that in a documentary before because it tends to make the words rather meaningless place floyd to an excited crowd so this is the song with i was shamed i was ashamed but it's a rocker people down there loved it it needs a small venue which you can see in the video there's some cartoon stuff of her jamming in paris three there's a mr moustache is comic strip course forward which says that he started taking heroin for his a stomach problems in one nine hundred eighty seven but tracy the long time girlfriend says he never told me that he made fun of people in seattle who  doing that i never found anything so down the celica eagerly jumps on the heard was the heroin addict bandwagon although you know days after his death didn't he say it was just a very small part of his life so i guess he was lying then or he's lying now we can't have it both ways right change everything you better buckle up because you are not ready for this shit which is her interview but it's more chilling when you see that she was featured on m t v standing in front of seattle center like back in one nine hundred ninety one or ninety t say why why was cobain's mom jumping into the spotlight that way with m more than halfway through the year and we're just going to cut to the chase the aspects of this which are most of this it was made up of stuff that's already been released that you can look at for free your own other reality t v stars in and this is a conception that they had from back in ninety three and that that sounds like a far out claim to make because they don't make it directly in the film or you know just consider the idea that kobe knew that he was creating  first superstar group that was going to have this substantial issue of what happens to all of that amateur video that's being shot by all kinds of people who ponied up you know five hundred dollars or so to get themselves  camcorder and shoot from the back of the stage or from the back of the venue or the front of the stage or whatever because a lot of that stuff is being captured and this was going to be the first superstar group that would have so much of it best stuff as a young touring band captured by people who didn't ask to get it and in one way or another might be free to market it at some points or another in the future and now as i'm  describing for technological reasons because a processor speed being so fast and video being so easy to use it's a non story now but it wasn't then and so you know one of the ways that you could conceive of the video revolution on the world and show business and all the rest of it like so many have done since right so that's really the reason for their taking the little sony handycam and capturing this footage and you know a lot of it is it attempt at comedy although you know the most important thing is that this thing is being hyped exactly the way that the broomfield with the film was hype was it is going to give you the truth about cobain's heroin addiction right so called a legit heroin addiction and so bloomfield runs around for most of the movie early in the movie this woman he meet somewhere up here on capitol hill with a heavy red lipstick who's a friend courtney love see and they're going to chase down some photos of kurt shooting up which she's convinced exist and she probably says that she has seen them and she's going to hunt them down for broomfield without him ever offering you know monetary compensation or anything else and this goes on throughout the whole film maybe it's one of the last scenes in the film he's still going around asking her if she's caught up with the films and she said the pictures and she's saying oh yeah you know they're at my  mother's house and i think she's got the boy walked up somewhere in a box blah blah blah so we never get the the photographic truth about this and then this film is hyped the same way because after cobain calls himself a man for the ninety's a real ward cleaver you know as in leave it to beaver cleaver he says de am if i wasn't so needle sick i'd be on tour with guns n roses right now this is an obvious jo often cited in these reviews as this shocking occurrence of kurt cutting his daughter's hair while he is so out of it still heavily  meaning of course high on heroin that he's every around her head with a you know tiny little daughter with a sharp pair of scissors and a new one is stopping him and he sort of nods out a little bit but it's like a joke you know it's obvious that it's a put off it's obvious that it's arguably acquittal and you know in the vein of put on this i hate myself and want to die david frikkie has not seen going on and cobain laughs i would say laughs knowing in other words you know this ricky guy is going to be one of the key people that's going to tell his story in the most influential publication in rocky mentor he on paper and he laughs because he's easy he succeeded in that moment and pulling the wool over the guy's eyes he's given all the right answers now the guy doesn't know whether describe this is some sort of real psychological crisis the guy's going through or just aspect of his career as an entertainer that he's able to push on such a good show for the journos that they don't know whether he is at the end of rope or ropes if you will or whether it's all just a put on for what's now recognized today were fairly broadly as millions of dollars of free streets spill their guts is effectively as i would have liked to i guess sally shabby shabby shed all the way through you know i covered the main points and the stories the news the aspect of this though because i'm not especially eager to do a york they had some sort of ten thousand dollar bet on who could succeed in attracting the attention of more strippers aps this very expensive a new york strip club michael stipe looked on it like he couldn't believe what he is seeing according to the new york oh strike and sources say dave did go to the strip club and drop ten thousand dollars on patrol  court had a competition over strippers he would have definitely so that's where my voice is to all back off on the imperfections in our delivery on the lack of vocal control for whatever reason trying to breathe clean air as much as i can but  the more newsy aspect of it and really the sad aspect of it is what about c l c's daughter and her mother's daughter as it is now apparently the case her mother's daughter because you know after the move then which you know sounds like a kind of and or on be which kind of thing the mother in law who just shows up out of nowhere she's been engaged to this guy silva for several years but apparently this is all been sorted out and now they charge me as hell with the daughter went and sat on mom's lap for the first screening of this thing they posed at sundance with the spread morgan director the daughter was wearing this dress with broad like three four inch wide yellow  been strongly held to be the case since the daughter had her sixteenth birthday and it seemed to be cheney's suicide themed although there are some sort of denial out there but  photos of the paraphernalia from the from the party exist so they're at much denying that it was done as a creepy goth thing in which apparently teenage suicide was a joke about  like that and i believe t m c is produced by time warner telepictures which means it's all in the house publicity but a and according to her americans are our culture is obsessed with did musician his own or you know the music industry loves to market dead musicians because they don't have to pay the musicians themselves they can just pay a lesser fees to the spouses and offspring so that's the dark turn that the story is taking which is the daughter is expressing extreme disinterest in anything nerve erna related after this film and this is supposed to put a wrap on her contributions to investigating the the real nature of the biographical facts of her father she's basically stating she's not at all interested she's going to be some kind of fabulous painter in her own estimation full color book that's devoted only to the contents of this movie any scot here and a written will in it which means just the i believe the enemy did a short story on it and it might have appeared elsewhere as denouncing the kurt cobain journals is largely a product of forgery