seventy eight is a ph d research was conducted the stanford university linear accelerator center and is post doctoral research at cornell university he taught physics at b y u for over twenty years department of energy division of advanced research projects for nine hundred ninety one until ninety ninety three professor jones research fusion in condensed matter physics and do deuterium for the u s department of energy and the electric power research institute since mid two thousand and five he has applied his scientific expertise to research on a concern the destruction of the world trade center skyscrapers he was a founding member of scholars for nine eleven truth and in late two thousand and six he was instrumental in the establishment of scholars for nine eleven truth and justice dedicated to nine eleven research utilizing the scientific method he is coeditor of the peer reviewed journal of nine eleven studies so thank you all it's up pleasure to be with you here and sacramento and as david mentioned our paper on active there medic material discovered in the world trade center just as just been published earlier this month and she never kill a explain how that was acquired at least one of the samples we report in this paper on four separate samples i provide a little introduction to this research that we've done on the world trade center that we all saw these luminous clouds of dust that were produced as that buildings were destroyed so we looked at and probe very carefully this team of scientists nine looking at the desk to determine what information and there's a great deal of information actually in the desk that tells us what happened that day that information about the presence of an explosive or part techni that has been ignored in the official reports in fact to my dismay yest the nationalist to their standards and technology has in fact refused to look for explosive residue  i remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won and that's a remarkable fact there have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end they always fall think of it always i'm convinced that he's right about that and that provides a great deal of hope i would like to talk a little bit about the collapse of world trade center seven and the destruction of the towers before getting into our detailed  material found in the world trade center dust so here we have on the right lower right a photograph of the world trade center seven buildings obscured by dust we're looking across the world trade center seven plaza it's interesting this is in the afternoon and if you look just to the right of center that tall building it's world trade center seven and it collapsed about seven hours after the collapse of the towers you did not see there a raging inferno fire because the fires were rather limited from what could be seen external to the buildings certainly and they were random photograph now on the right at twenty four steel beam core columns and fifty seven perimeter columns it was saw that lee built as you might imagine and here we will get to see the collapse of world trade center seven on the left and the collapse of a building i believe that one is in os low norway a known controlled demolition on the right with explosives ok you can see how some of these appear from the videos that we have of the collapse of world trade center seven notice that it proceeds basically straight down and we'll talk about  n n referendum and i have already contributed to that and i hope that you will do that as well as we seek this new investigation that's one avenue for an investigation with subpoena power which is very important in this quest for a fair and open investigation i'm also encouraged by president obama as he says there will be more transparency let's hope that that is the case as we investigate again the events of nine eleven now why yesterday last august came out with a preliminary report finally after considerable delay the collapse of world trade center seven and they said encouraging them to look for residues of explosives so how do they proceed well first of all they did not test any of the steel in world trade center seven to look for the effects that they could learn from actual hard physical evidence on the steel instead they proceeded with computer modeling with parameters these are adjustable inputs into the computer model so basically it's a black box and but there's a reason it will get you later if i started the heat this with a flame it would slowly that he would slowly conduct across the metal even though i and steel are not very super conductor is a very good conductors but they do conduct heat it's certainly not zero and i would feel that heat after a short time maybe i've done that with a pin or a needle it's worked on slivers i've had to heat up a little with flame and that heat transfer is along the needle stainless steel for example so my fingers quite quickly in just a few seconds well what they did is they turned off with thermal conductivity and nature won't let you do this even if you are a national federal laboratory under incidentally the department of commerce i should point o seventy and they said in their report it appeared likely the critical damage state was the failure of this column occurred between three and a half and four hours now burning office materials we're talking about cheers papers carpet desks so if you made a fire a bonfire is a last three and a half to four hours with and no actually from our experience and nist interesting lee had previously published data on heat release during the burning of office materials this is in one of their earlier reports and you can see from the plot there is to that reality is the f t s model the black is experimental data that don't line up exactly but the point is that by two thousand seconds the fire is is way down compared to what you had so six hundred seconds six hundred seconds one six is about ten minutes into the fire so you see that by the time you get to forty minutes towards the end of the plot then the heat is diminishing just as you would expect if you built a campfire or even a bonfire that fuel burns up rather rapidly and you don't have anyone in the building continuing to push office materials towards this critical column to keep this fire going for three and a half to four hours never less that is what they somehow assume there will be th for that period of time again the critical damage state occurred between three and a half to four hours now you can't you just let the office material fires continue to burn when the experimental data shows that he diminishes rapidly after about fifteen to thirty minutes and secondly you can't turn off the he transport in other words that he being conducted away from the critical c n because there are critical i mean connecting members connecting to these columns so that the heat is transported away the conductivity is not zero now in a computer mo you can do any crazy thing you want but nature will let you do this and some of us feel very strongly that this should a lot of want us to actually have their model so that we can test it and put in reasonable realistic perimeters predicting of course that if we do that the building will not fail clearly if you requires three and a half hours of heating with no thermal conductivity then when you put in some  uctivity and reasonable values for the length of time for the fires then you'll get much different results now in august again august twenty sixth of two thousand and eight businesses david fall of the world trade center seven i pointed out this is not good physics they also ignored and observed period of freefall david chandler pointed out so here is what david chandler noticed these are dots our data points actually taken from videos of the fall of world trade center seven and fitting a straight line over this portion as you can see fits missed read data points and circled data points and again looking at the actual videos of the collapse of world trade center seven they did a fit which is the red line and indeed for a period of two point two five seconds just as observed by physicist david chandler just checked and sure enough there is freefall nothing in the way for over two seconds in the fall of world trade center seven i let's read what nonsense about this is their final report now not in the preliminary report but in their final report believe it was november of two thousand he last year and here's what they say quote the slope of the velocity curve is approximately constant between one point seven five and four point zero seconds that's a time period of two point two five seconds i could straight line fit to the points in this range allowed as open circles in the figure we just saw a lot estimation of a constant downward acceleration during this time interval quoting missed this excel ration was thirty two point two feet per second squared nine point one meters per second squared equivalent to the acceleration of gravity g exactly within experimental errors the acceleration of gravity g and then they go on this pretty fall drop continued for approximately eight stories or thirty two meters one hundred five feet so for over one hundred feet that building as you  look at the roof in both cases is freely falling nothing in the way and when the question answer period when david chan and i challenge nestor there are errors looking at the drop of the building which would mean that there's nothing in the way and that can't happen because as the building collapses there's a lot of material in the way i'm paraphrasing that's basically what he said and we agreed with ha from the data nist is constrained to admit that there was a freefall drop for a time period of two and a quarter seconds which doesn't sound like much but when things are dropping over one hundred feet at  so this demonstrates this free fall drop that there was nothing in the way no beings no structure no concrete floors no significant mass no how do you get mass out of the way explosives is there any other way they didn't answer and a model of what you have the floor is still there because you didn't use explosives so the floors were intact as the upper structure hits the floors below the stationary floors it's close down t structures just like when you hit this does happen to as occasionally you hit something in the way of your car or perhaps a smaller car it doesn't matter how small it is the slows you down some  conservation of momentum in order for there to be freefall which means nothing slowing you down it means there is nothing significant in the way and they did not explain they don't answer how this could happen unfortunately now i thought they would have after we caught them on their air they admitted they checked the data yes there is freefall it's amazing you think they would change their conclusions instead they simply assert without pro f this period of freefall for over one hundred feet followed by about one and a half seconds of impeded fall is consistent that's their word consistent with their results global collapse has discussed in chapter twelve back and say oh well i'm sure it's consistent whatever you say nist after all you're a federally funded laboratory we will believe whatever you tell we're not satisfied as scientists i'm embarrassed frankly  without proof it is good that they at least admitted that there was freefall use of use of the world trade center just we see these remarkable red  steel in the towers because of the aluminum and silicon present in significant amounts in many of these droplets because they melt in nature of these droplets is shown by the fact that they formed in this years when you  now there are some close up photos of the red grape chips can you see they and the right hand photo you see the red side and then the insert shows one of these red  turned on its side so you can see red on one side and this shiny black gray surface on the other very characteristic very interesting we find it in all the samples that we have examined so far of the world trade center dust which is six samples by dr ferrer and myself four of these are reported on in this article we keep looking at more samples others have observed these red great ships as well this photo was taken by mark the cell the scientist and new hampshire area and he had set up and sent directly to him i the red and the great players very distinctive very and unusual striking now this is the electron microscope an x c t s system used  to brigham young university dr ferrer is the lab director he does excellent science and checked and rechecked and rechecked the data that went into this paper most of the photo micrographs the with this machine that you'll find in this published paper ok here is the paper as it appears now online it is an open journal we selected a journal that would allow us to publish a lot of data there was something like thirty three figures thirty i can't remember exactly thirty three three figures color twenty five pages that's a long paper and this journal was willing to work with us it took a long time very tedious peer review process many pages of peer review of the initial submission followed by this paper this is a photo of meals been speaking out in europe for instance denmark and paris i know he's spoken out on these results and on nine eleven in general of course he's very skeptical of the official story of nine eleven and agrees with th conclusions of this paper which are written material in these chips is explosive or pyrotechnic material and should not have been in the buildings that's his statement is this material should not be in a commercial office building certainly not in these quantities as we'll see some nine plus tons of this red material in the world trade center just extrapolating and estimating but that's a lot of material from what we've observed i'll go through those numbers in a minute we see these chips the same characteristics as we'll see in all four samples so we do a check or consistency check between the various collectors and we see the here on top and the gray layer below this medication we can already look at and sample the red and gray layers to get an overview of the chemicals present we use x ray spectroscopy that will be on the quiz please make note of it and first we look here at the gray layers which show oxygen and iron very clearly a small carbon of a thirty six steel is used in the world trade center towers has about point eight to one point two percent manganese so where is the manganese look at that bottom plot for example there and not like a pain either and i like private pain just will see because the lack of zinc notice the elements that are there carbon significant peak oxygen aluminum s and hired the one number three has a small amount of calcium it has him and so far but that could be some contamination dr fierro was very careful to break these if you can imagine these small chips he broke a piece and then looked at that fresh surface there still there's so much calcium sulfate in the dust that you can still use often quite often see calcium and so for showing up just for that reason actually read at least part of this paper ok that's good but it's obviously not oh so i'd encourage you to up to read it it's not hard to find if you is that the read portions well the gray black portion did not seem to be affected by the song but all the red portions swelled and can you see that in the right photo with some iron oxide mixed in and then in the left hand side of this photo of the right photo you see a silvery reach and we found that the aluminum elemental aluminum separated out with under the action of this paint saw a very had to remember there's a lot of carbon in here the carbon does seem to break down ok let's look at the data getting ahead of myself this is in the paper after the any case so we now see regions where we see a lot of them separated from silicon and oxygen so if you look at the left most blot you see a region you see the silicon and oxygen very little bit of iron essentially no aluminum this is not aluminum  middle plot you see a large peak of aluminum very little silicon again this is not a little silicate because the aluminum has now increased dramatically just has been pulled out of this matrix of stuff and  material and oxygen is much less than the aluminum and we deduced dr fair's an expert in this machine that if you live in a content exceeds the oxygen content significantly and so there must be at least some elemental aluminum which is one of the prime ingredients of thermite there is also iron oxide as shown in there right most plot oxygen in iron here the oxygen in each case was sufficient to completely oxidized the iron unlike the aluminum or the oxygen was insufficient to oxidize all of the elements see the difference so elemental aluminum had to be present some of it at least was element you know you have little bits of aluminum little particles little particles aluminum you get an oxide layer that forms very rapidly it's called the passivation that occurs on the surface and actually protects the interior aluminum from being this is not just elemental either we didn't find any evidence of that in the red material so now we go on higher magnification fifty thousand power so after fair pushed it up and this was the first to see plate like structures the plate like structures are quite uniform in thickness from what we can observe with scanning electron microscope fifteen enemy toure's wide plus the iron oxide appears in these ultra fine faceted grains approximately one hundred nanometers across and again very uniform again let me have say this is not from the building collapsing with your there's a limit on the iron and titanium and calcium and sulfur and zinc and copper in the building but that's not what you see here you see uniform right grains this is engine your material i just you know if you're a scientist you just can't say well randomly all the building falls down and we're going to get a few and iron oxide which are present in the red material when these are ignited so i show in this little demonstration experiment that i did aluminum powder and iron oxide powder you get aluminum oxide you see the white plume being away above the molten iron molten iron is a yellow white hot coming out of this reaction it's extremely hot and you get molten nearly pure iron and not enough oxygen in them to be iron oxide you see less than one one even so we get molten because it was fears now iron that are formed from the red chips and we just heat  up to about four hundred thirty senate race will see that react and release a lot of energy and then we get molten iron folks this is the signature for thirty medic reaction one thing i'd like to get perfectly clear if i can possibly and i wish there is someone here from this to would listen to this thermite i agree is an incendiary ordinary thermite which means powders of aluminum an iron mixed together and they burn as incendiary so you see this molten material this is ordinary thermite you're in the photo and you see the molten iron coming out of it's an incendiary it melts things but the ultra fine grain form is an explosive reaction very fast the smaller the grains the faster the reaction that's been demonstrated in publish papers and we see for example this is from a lawrence livermore national lab and you get here from livermore i welcome you i'd like to discuss this with  incendiary or b explosive be ok very good now actually you can tailor nano thermite which is interesting so that you can make it react faster slower louder and it just has all these variations you can tailor it but it can be explosive is what i'm trying to say here as you see from the photo from lawrence livermore national lab i had the b b c crew came through  the lab took photos videos i mean of me and i think others in the lab as we worked on these record chips and interestingly they asked for more if they could show this photo a photo from a published paper and livermore declined we're not allowed them to show nano thermite exploding but as you see very important oh here's what i was looking for this wonderful of this is in the paper so you can study it a little bit of homework on your free time it's again just so exciting dr fair took his maps and let you know so what are we looking at here upper left is an image through the electron microscope you see the bright grains how do you know they're iron and oxygen well you look at the blue picture that's for effie and other words for scanning over looking for iron looking for  blue the purple is alone and the green is oxygen the light blue in the lower left corner is silicon and the red is carbon so you see where there are these things lie and what we see is that we have iron oxide and aluminum although here you can't tell real clearly whether it's aluminum oxide or not because there's so much silicon associated with the aluminum as this stuff is constructed and engineered it wasn't until we did the m e case separation that we found the aluminum pulled apart from the silicon oxide and that we're able to nail the presence of a telecom lumina again you can look in the paper there's another as you know map there and again we have this years before nine eleven two thousand one certainly long after the buildings were constructed i get that question you know you could not have been put into the buildings were constructed because it had not been developed at that time it's a new high tech technology and here's some of the uses livermore report in two thousand and four they go one inch by introducing a fuel metal such as aluminum into the metal oxides silicon oxide me tricks and energetic materials based on thermite reactions can be fabricated i'm not making this up this should hope these national labs explaining this wonderful explosive material organic out it is hence the carbon observed can cause the generation of gas upon ignition of the materials therefore resulting in a composite material that can perform pressure volume work but right explosive work method and they describe this material any test material slowly in this case we use their conditions ten degrees centigrade per minute in air and you heat it up and in their case the nano the dust can't remember yes it says mckinley this is a mckinley sample jeanette and look at that very narrow and goes off at about four hundred thirty seven great lower in temperature the fight of the material in general the lower the temperature which ignites the narrower the peak the more explosive you see the faster the energy release well right center red green chip ignites at a lower temperature th ordinary thermite and it's narrower this whole exothermic then he even known nano thermite from just down the road here lawrence livermore at the energetic material center at lawrence livermore national laborator again nano thermite from ordinary notice how much broader the ordinary thermite peak is compared with nano thermite this is like no paint you've ever seen before let's review quickly the red material will not dissolve in any case this is after fifty five hours there's this hard chunk left i've got a photo of it how the bottom is highly were high and so look in this gel it's all silicon oxide matrix is remains after a long soaking where this ordinary paint dissolves resistivity differs it's attracted by a magnet the red material it has carbon silicon oxygen iron and elemental aluminum but to me when it's dry please further tests that characterize these chips and therefore characterize the world trade center just as you know we can tell them we've got world trade center just because it has these out as we observe that these are uniform grains intimately mixed nanoscale and they're all exothermic this isn't an engineered material this does not happen just from a building collapsing i should add we actually looked at just from ordinary controlled demolition so you have this collapse of buildings caused by explosives but ordinary explosives like c four we looked at the dust and some detail daniel farnsworth and i banc and salt lake city these are discussed in the paper these are controls and no red great ships and the controls ok just in the world trade center does that we've seen ok oh boy you can read some of this the paper i'll let you do that but this is from an april two thousand and one conference in san diego and they say in the middle here the breadth of the work ongoing in this when this conference was held in april at this point in time all of the military services and some do you know we and academics laboratories and certainly overseas laboratories as well have active r and d programs at exploiting the unique quarterly department of defense publication i understand and as we look at this that's what i was just quoting from this meeting held in april two thousand and one i looked this is from the article  talking about the uses of this advanced energetic material this thermite for example at the top you see kinetic energy munitions in the middle  charge just like c four and can have through steel not melt through right you see the difference right ordinary thermite is incendiary nano thermite can be formed into an explosive shaped charge and it's not easy to make this stuff this is again from the report making the nano scale aluminum for these high tech explosives this was done at the naval facility guess this material could well have been outsourced and not saying it was necessarily done even in this country that's a very interesting question where this stuff was made and who made it who ordered it made and who put it into the building those are the crucial issues this shows what is required to put these i materials together very high tech process so intimately mixed also fine aluminum with old and fine iron again out of this  how much material was in that asked to go through this argument quickly we report in the paper the first paragraph is a quote from the paper fifteen small chips having a mass of one point seven four milligrams extracted from your ninety thousand tons said he will actually about that that brings us to about twenty seven tons of the red great chips in the best again this is just based on what we observe sample there's a lot of material if you just look at the red material known as about one third the mass of the rectory chips which works out to about nine tenths of act if there medic material a very rough estimate and as i must emphasize our conclusion is that we have found a very energetic highly engineered explosive pyrotechnic material in the world trade center dust in abundance the questions now are who made this stuff and why has nis questions i don't know exactly how this venture was used i given some hint but i don't know it could be as we explain the paper that just the thin material survived in the thicker layers of this red material were actually used in the building the point is there's a lot of it and it should not be there in a commercial building occupied by humans details of exactly how they used this to destroy can be learned once we find out who that there was arson there was intentional destruction that's what we have in this case we have these identified now materials in the world trade center das the us government oversaw a lot i think it's fair to say someone certainly allowed the destruction of ninety nine plus percent of the world trade center steel that evidence was destroyed we want to prevent this from happening to the world trade center dust oh my the international nine eleven truth movement and community is strong and growing we can support the new york city and ca and referendum i like that new york city  e requires courage i believe and love and truth to take action was and let me just say in closing just in case get your food storage thank you like the scientific evidence of change from crime scenes every day scientific evidence stephen jones team has recently uncovered is admissible in a fact finding commission or court of law it is scientific proof of weapon used to kill three