hello everybody welcome to disability redefine the dr wagner i am dr true wagner and as always i am very very happy to be here for this episode i'm so excited we have for the first time ever a mother daughter team we have lilies sellers her mother bethann hey guys how are you how is everything right now where are you at right now worn the cap a lot this past winter and i love the bracelet i buy the brace of a lot for some friends of mine various colleagues or anybody who has a birthday but i know your design was beautiful  congratulations so we will show some of your artwork what it what are you interested in because you have quite a bit of of experience in art you i understand you do photo shop you do in design i love it and so now what else do you like to do you know i mean you're very creative you know do you do you keep up with popular culture do you are you a big with film t v do you'd like to read a lot omagh i have three pets two i have two cats max and frizzy and then we just got a new little addition jagger i don't know if you've seen him on i'm instagram or not but he's a little japanese the end of the day i'm pretty much enter i like to read i'm also very creative i like to read about people you know one one great thing i love about doing the show is that i get to do research on people and a lot of people actually you know being in front of the camera that kind of thing and that's the fun part of it too but slowly but surely you know we have we have moved from studio one which is the big studio to studio two which is the smaller one and now as you all solve whenever we were preparing for tonight i'm on my own and we had just a few techs here so i'm up here you know doing the buttons and everything by my side don't really know what i'm doing but i'm just going so i too think that you know a lot of us are talking about a powered wheelchair what exactly is your disability  positive quality for a young young person what do you think social media has has died far the disabled community you know you just you just open the door for me to answer this question in a very elaborate way because you just said you know talking about you know when your mother spoke about the power wheelchair and going out into nature you know now you can do to social media you know you can share your artwork all over the country and you can meet people like our good friend alex you know without really being there so you know as well as you two you know both of you you know how do you think social media has been a positive factor with the disabled population any younger people i know that's a loaded question so take your time but  then that is a very very good point you know social media does allow us you know to ask these kind of questions that could come across as being too personal but yet in that in this in in  good excellent point i really appreciate that point so much because i think i think it has been amazing you know we we just had alex daisey own own our show we just had  lead singer from the sad sops all of which have said that they have spoken to people you know all over the world about their music and about their their clothes you know this this love your jeans line that they would have never had that opportunity before but i'm actually going to present it in a package that mid atlantic popular and american culture association so i think i'm going to take a little bit of this and probably show it at the conference to the other to the other professors and educators that work within the disabled population because you all answered very eloquently and quite profoundly i think social media does have some negative aspects to it but i think at the end of the day when it comes to you know th population it has been a very very strong and positive two and i'm just very happy lilly that you and people like you and alex and you know teddy from the sad sops and various other people have shared your stories because they have been so powerful and they've met so much to people out there that we might not know about so yeah so that's that's a wonderful wonderful thing that you've done what do you see in the future you know i understand you've got high school to go to but you know you also an artist and as we just said thanks to social media you know you can actually you know show your art all over the world in the country at this time so do you as far as going into high school on their own as far as pursuing a career in art as far as you know leading such an active help and the very positive life that your daughter is doing and just meaning so much to everybody you know we still do have you know and again it's you know it is it is they are you know we still have yeah we still do have parents who are very protective and overly you know cautious but what would you say you know and lily is wonderful congratulations if she is she's beautiful and she's smart so i i hope that all parents will will really pay attention and listen to what you're going to say much we're winding things up but i do want to ask and this of this is a question that any any any young person six seven eight twelve thirteen fourteen actually could probably benefit from hearing the answer lilly but are seems to be a very supportive factor in your life it seems to be a source of confidence and it seems to also be a source of motivation and you know not everybody does have not everybody has that one certain talent or skill that they have that source and you know as an educator and a counselor you know as a professor you know i mean i wish everyone would be so passionate about something you know as a parallel to you and your art work and your future art career so maybe again the both of you i would like to hear just from the both of you how important do you think the younger the better let's let's phrase it that way the younger the better finding that one certain aspect our quality or skill or talent in your life that you can yeah i think it was us trying her interest too because we knew we were you know we were willing to do whatever we needed to do to us or her creativity  know profound statement it was such a so i always say the simpler the statement the more profound it is but when you said that you all were willing to foster you know lily's interest that that probably was was a  crucial aspect of her childhood as well as with any child's childhood you know whether you know they're able bodied or disable you know everyone needs that one certain skill talent a quality to you know make them who they are and what i as i was doing my homework only that was one thing that i really did appreciate is that you know she has you know found that one talent that really brings her and who she is together and you know that stuff's why really you are an internet sensation and you know all of these followers on instagram so it's great so listen i cannot thank you all enough i do want to ask one more question why what do you want people to take away from this interview you know seeing you seeing you two they're communicating so well you know lily you're so happy you both look very happy you both look very content what would you what would you say to people out there what if someone said ok you know what we can't show the interview so what do you want i think i think that is an excellent advice for anyone out there so listen i cannot thank you too anough i guess the final question would be if you're ever in new york would you come to the studio and be on the universities here because soon lily will be looking for a university and if she is majoring in art it probably will be somewhere like new york city so that will be a great thing new york would love to have you lately