that i look forward to every year and it gives us an opportunity to see short films we really don't see in any other venue so could you tell us where and where this esselstyn take place we will be at the mill market is that the art works parking lot nineteen everett alley in trenton it's on the corner of market street and with local living you know living parking and the dates are thursday february twenty fifth through saturday february twenty seventh correct and that they are the twenty fifth and the twenty six are evening shows thursdays at five thirty and six thirty oh sorry something about the shares her thursdays at six thirty a m friday is at seven thirty and then we have shows off and on all day on saturday there including a special double feature starting at six and so you will be able to see the live action films nominated documentary as i believe that was two thousand but that was the only it was a fundraiser at the new jersey state audience oratory and it was only the documentary violence but that's at the very end of the program so there yet they're actually going to take a pause there is going to be a warning put on screen so everybody in the audience knows what you know the prepared for it and they can choose to leave at that point there's enough time right well that people of the youth if they choose to and all the others are suitable for children excellent people can bring their kids yes they come back in and see them but i think they're actually before yes so they put up even the approach even better yeah you know the prologue is the name of the film that has the you know sort of graphic violence that was nominated but they're putting it at the very deathly animated i love the animated films and this year i feel like there's really a why range of styles vary from sort of hand drawn very artistic to you know computer graphics that are very intricate and you know sort of very childlike animation but yet the studio with amazing story where you're just you're drawn into a world even though you know you're kind of looking at very simple drawings and it's still really engrossing and you know so i like that there's so much of her rioting so you think the technical quality this year is is as good as it has been another year oh yeah the one film promo the the art in that film is master level you know master orders drawing so you know it was the very different type of film but what i found interesting we have so many different themes across all of these films and some of them are  one of them it's a it's a story that people just don't know it's about seen a teenager living in a vietnamese care cent but this care center is for children born with birth defects from agent orange and so it's a story said you just don't know but it is certainly a story that needs to be told but it's uplifting also you know it's sad but it's uplifting that's one of the things about children teenagers i mean night is a great way to see two programs that want to get their double feature and you get a little bite to eat because you know it's a free food yeah exactly because we don't there's not much time to get something in between so we thought we'd bring you do cookies and locally rows yes coffee with us and tristan and one other comment if anyone is interested in volunteer and to work with us to help us make this happen are very happy to take on new volunteers you can go to training film society or click on the volunteer button on the right lower right and put your information  welcome to the second half of this full of popcorn the first half was moderated by my colleague carol welsh and joins me again here on janet's turn bob brown is with us and marilyn ca all puppets so stop animation i guess and it's about a guy who's reached midlife crisis he's a customer relations specialist who's authored a book and he's about to give a speech at a convention and he's just personally falling apart and he encounters two ladies at this convention and he takes a fancy to one of them the more mousy and less so confident of  two and they have a relationship which turns into something and then it doesn't and well i'll just leave it at the ok that was very concise i guess my first question about this is probably something you could have anticipated which is a decision based on a play that charlie kaufman wrote why puppets you know it's a funny thing when i was sitting in this movie i thought this is the craziest thing and i didn't get it until about a third of the way through and by the very end you understand precisely why and i think we say to my good good we must do it all by well one of the things is that you're looking at the world through his eyes and for him everybody is blandly the same way and through his ears even if well yes everybody sounds the same and looks the same they wear different clothes but they're all exactly the same i would be very hard to do with real people but i think the way they've crafted those puppets so you say that the the universe of this movie seems to be mechanical like  know everything is mechanical like people have become well it's his stage of life and everybody has moved into a kind of a blur there's a window that opens up at a certain point where he meets this woman and she's the fantasy it's you know you know you're putting people in unusual situations or fantastic situations so you need this this special form but this one you could have done this live action i mean realistic and in fact it's it's all it's almost commonplace we have to say that these are what they are figures that have been made out of clay that are about this high or they claim what was an a t m i think well there's to claim a lot of things they have about a fifteen thousand heads for each of the characters and seventeen hundred thousand arms and you know because they do they use them in different it's just that the making of them is is amazing though the animator one of the animators said that she tried to convey in the man this dashed expectations i mean a woman internalised trauma  but they did not and why because i guess they wanted you to see that these people's faces are made up of and that's a changeable part there's a very first scene in which his has the bottom half of his face falls a hand see the every customer is an individual i may have a life and they have a soul or i have a bad day or a good day and that you need to tailor your head coach or tailor your customer service to the that's why i'm struck me more bob besides the mechanical public like faces is that just that thing about the voices that every four people is the same except for the man right and the one woman he falls for during the course but what makes the a basically proverbial one instead because it really threw me that the person who sits next to on the plane the taxi driver and then his o there all the sami and they're all male yeah well immediately i mean the first scene is on the airplane and he's reading a letter that his ex lover wrote him and it's in the voice of a man everybody this person sees is they think is one person in disguises and if you notice he stays at the for goli hotel quite you know i have heard this is a very peculiar thing i mean we're talking about charlie kaufman so why are we surprised we are not that's one thing i'm wondering is it just the way this character is seeing the world or is this is this the way the world their perspective very good quite well yeah there were the reveal and i would give away the ending the reveal tells you it's his yeah whole way of right hotel and he has to rush out and try and find her because he has a different voice and then had a period at the end where he changes towards her her voice and a lovely voice and actually she sings that one point and jennifer jason leigh did in a very tiny clip that i saw that one of the things about making this puppetry is that we can do that we can look at her and what our own you know it's more immediate to have a pop at that we can put all of our emotions on saturday and three dimensional i was right rather than actors who would say well that's the that's particular to get nominated for an oscar well i mean when i think it's done that well so it's up against inside out i probably will win but one more thing about this so did you feel when you were watching it did you feel suspense and if so what generated the suspense for you not as disagreeable to the main character was i think in some way as i felt i was rooting for him i was rooted in that he would somehow get out of his  something some sort of meaningful something in this life i felt that for him and i was rooting for him i didn't feel bad for him i thought that there was a lot of heaven he said he was a user yeah that's what i to leave his wife and small child and has no regrets whatsoever even about the child who is young so yeah that was the most shocking thing the best was it to me that he had no feeling for his child best and stare at a wall ok he treats lisa very badly well in the end he does not only in yemen excuse me for taking public sex too literally which i am so she hasn't had a relationship in nine years and they had unprotected sex w in fact his first girlfriend was like that too true begin to believe that this is a guy who just is an opportunist in my innocence is where he's a weak person and he takes advantage of that while he seems in the bar scene with his girlfriend then he's ready to take her you actually like this would recommend this i don't really know starting any and i think i would recommend it to people who are interested in in a different way of doing a story because the use of the thought it was moving afterwards i wondered why and i i saw it was somebody who was mystified by if i think a more sophisticated view i would recommend that i think it was technologically just really and i loved trying i loved what i saw the realism and i have to put in a word for carter burwell score the right the most beautiful scores and nobody is nominated this year for carol but that's i