was just giving mention to a couple of women we lost earlier this year that one of my longtime supporters mentioned and i just can't stop mentioning her ok that's what you do and people passing you want to keep their him alive anderson ran a new orleans creole restaurant and put that place on the map and it's not gone away it's still there so please support one other club here pioneer square it's still family own and they're they're working on you know f the project as it were was all doing that also want to mention kathy mcdonald passed away about a month after that it was devastating to my fall i just about fell on those two because they were both acres in my scene in my blues world and as women we need each other so those were couple big losses for me so looking for other women to put in those those spots i have reached out and found some great women and hopefully some of them will be here much for making time for us tonight now she's on the road a lot you are going to be a jazz alley tomorrow and the next night i want to make sure mention that if they're not all sold out they probably will be so it's an alert to all of you know we will be a chance on world you keep bringing it ok i've been watching your music since the blues leaf record label so early times and beautiful music wonderful shows that you are put on and i have to say top of the stairs maybe one little shot of i had a lie and there it is and then there was a there's another verse another cadence that says just a little something extra in your morning cup of may in a long deep rich lineage of blues and rhythm and blues there is a very long list of songs about the demise of one's partner you know come out all the lights your funeral my trial i'm going to murder my baby baby all that is on the man's side of the street the woman's for me the most infamous probably one for me was as he stated send me to the electric chair and now there's there it is that's all i all regrets in reference to what everything will be here on hiatus how big arm talk about being a woman in the music business trying to get somewhere and you're somewhere know what kind of things would you say you regret  ok different question no no got it i mean i'm i'm i think as a woman in the music business perhaps i put up with too much for too long now what do i mean by that specifically i tolerated some things as an employer that it took me a while to learn to not that i didn't have to tolerate people that were the wrong fit in terms of ensemble for me it took me a little while to figure that out you know i don't like to make rash decisions i don't like to throw the baby out with the bathwater so to speak but  i would have liked to have learned that a little sooner yet at the same time i guess that was all in the learning of it i don't really tolerate things that don't make sense for me anymore or if your intuition is creaming in waving red flags you don't nor it i don't i pay pretty close attention to some i got his days and it seems to be the right thing to do for me and so learn to trust that you know when something's not right  that means there's something that's going to be better but i have to show up for that i have to make room for what's about to be better i can't hang on in fear and out of the play or hang out of the somehow arielle hangout of the people and out of the gig out of fear when i'm want to work most i've ever imagine most of the labels and the clubs and the ages the people we work with and most levels are headed by right ledger already of the people in the music business whether they're  infrastructure our mail sometimes sexism is obvious sometimes it's not if you write it to it in an obvious way or is it more of a subtle you know  never want to use a really want to be everywhere i wanted to be everywhere i wanted to you know i wanted people who want me and i still want people to want me as an artist and certainly has a woman but i don't i no longer push or press to be somewhere where i ain't want it sure you know i mean like nobody wants to feel like they're forcing somebody to take them to the prom you know i know i do not i don't want to be hanging on some man's arm that you know doesn't really want to be with me is like doing me a favor and that feeling that i had so much as a young girl you know i don't want that feeling in the workplace either i don't want that feeling in the workplace either  yeah when you're repeating lyrics and those are like montrose so you want to you want to be saying the positive if you want to emphasize positive you don't always want to be in the negative or if there's another way of putting that being able to you know wail about the stuff get the demons out but then you get to choose your your your lyrics your words here your you know what you're singing about i get to choose a lot these days which is which is a nice place to be a man you know and choosing away from fear and when your lyrics we talked and see i think this is song number for bobby if you want to get that when it talks about safety fear of dying what keeps you from crying what keeps you from crying not much ok here's another question if you were an animal what animal would you be i'd be some sort of feline probably in the wild ok just came all at once in one sitting just it just came for me and i'm not very practiced of a writer ok so when i have when i've had those kinds of experiences it's been sort of profound for me and fright a little bit frightening or a lot frightening it's as if something came through me i had just literally hung up the phone from an incredibly incredibly painful conversation with my now ex husband and god it was it was just  awful conversation and i was literally sitting at my desk at about eleven o'clock at night that's not uncommon at sitting at my desk like that i was just basically bleeding i felt like i was bleeding on the desk and i picked the pan up and i just started to write and that came out and i felt better after that came out and i just gave it to my producer and he wrote the music and it was one of those that just fits in to fit right and it's a practice by the way whistling in the dark that has got me through a lot you mean the whistling itself yeah well fake it til you make it and i'm going to pretend this isn't happening this isn't real i just got to get to the other side of this experience you know whistling in the we are also streaming as i said live from the sound dot com you can tell your friends and loved ones or you can what a smart phone it don't even know how to say all right so some things are obvious the strengths that you need to be in this business some are not as obvious what would you tell people some of the not or less obvious skills that are necessary to be a woman in this business some of the not so obvious things in my i can only speak to my experience but some of the not as blatant things may be you know it's taken me a long time it's taken a lot of work a lot of internal work for me to be willing to be vulnerable in a world in a world that will tell me that that's not ok that that's not right that it's not acceptable that it's on wanted now i'm not talking about you know blubbering and crying publicly that's not what i'm talking about even though i've actually done a little bit of that i've done a lot of it privately and a and a tiny bit of it publicly but to be willing to serve the music in a way that bears a part of my soul has been a long journey for me and most of that work has been internal and a lot of it has been against the grain against the tide because the tide says don't do that because the tide says don't show yourself that much it's too difficult to witness because there are people that will tell you that have told me nobody wants to hear that but it turns out that that's not accurate and turns out that that's not true that's probably the the biggest piece for me is to is to become willing and sound enough in my resolve to tell the truth you know my my when i was young and in trouble the first time i got in big trouble i got arrested when i was thirteen if you want to know why i have to read the book i'm writing a book i got a good read all that i knew i was going to read about the book details but my father sat me down the next day and he wanted to have what he would refer to as a come to jesus conversation with me and i want to talk of what she started about but you know i was thirteen i had all the answers to everything at thirteen i was all that in a bag of chips and a story as far as i was concerned he was just an old fool now he said something to me that i have never forgotten he said you know the truth is going to set you free and i thought you know fool i'm busy i got to go i got i know can i leave now and i got up and i left the room and i left that conversation and he turns out that he was right on all levels for me because there has been a healing you bet that has occurred because i've finally got to that place where i went you know what i just have to crack it open and show it because it's the the only way that i can really serve the music it took me a long time to come to understand this is the other big deal that is not so obvious  to learn that was at least not so obvious for me the job is about human connection the job is about serving the music in a way that there will be a connection that occurs between me and the audience so that by the end of the show i pray they'll be at least one person that will feel  better and when they walked in the door they will have some sense of understanding that whatever it is they're struggling with they're not alone in their journey that's the job the job is connection right the gift or the vehicle is the music but the job is about connection so the only way for me to do that is to be true and to be open enough in my heart to be able to give that to the music and somehow there's this this thing that i don't understand and i don't think i even need to that occurs but the work is get me to be willing to be open that's the hard part the rest of any of my chops disciplining doing homework all that stuff those are all the obvious things that the internal process has been not so obvious and it's probably the most difficult well and getting it right internally means then everything else lines up externally right i mean if you have a wind up here then you can speak the truth without hesitation without doubting yourself even without stopping and i have hesitation i do doubt but it doesn't stop me and you know i always was a willful child i guess that hasn't changed but give us an applause for being able to be vulnerable people noble that's a non traditional place to be really a beautiful place for us to get some understanding in our own lives i know it is about connection it's all about relationships i'm learning that now in my older years too and i didn't know that earlier so it is all about relationships what i talked about ganders and that was a most important one of the most support relationships in my life and i realise now ok i have to build new relationships with the new club owner in that club yes there's history but it's a new relationship so it always is relationships are work they're just work aren't they if you're going to be in my me and you know if you're going to be in relationships with human beings it takes some effort and you're going to want to sing about it ok another song we got number seven on the new recording again it is called stronger for it on alligator records and the lyric i love in this one is i gave you everything you ever wanted how come you don't want what you got oh i play is one way bobby de plays number seven i think some much about her and i think about her experience as a entertainer and the journey and the path and the stops and starts and the sharp curves and the you know talk about a woman that had a journey good lord and has risen past a lot of obstacles to know yes to do some of that internal work you're talking about too i mean she really only got there where she's at now because of that internal work it seems so it seems like you know i haven't had that conversation with her but i don't i don't think i want to hold back i want to do a lot more conversations like this i'm having a great time with miss genevieve magnus here at eighty eight keys in seattle pioneer square going to give yourself some we want to get you involved in the conversation as well and there is a microphone here i don't have much light on it but if you want to be part of the conversation please encourage yourself in your you know if you know the drink to get the courage up to go ahead do that too but participate in our conversation where you actually friends now which blows my mind i did not i wasn't familiar with her when i certainly was growing up but i did listen to really good solid radio as a young girl and some of that was detroit radio that had to make a difference in your upbringing musically i mean i think that it did revue i think that it did you know i like to think that it did good radio goes a long way let's just say amen to that that's right ok so i could ask more questions are there questions from the audience is anybody want to participate join in all right well you got to use a microphone you can't just sit in your chair i felt a gospel feel or one of your tracks and i kind of want to ask you about faith and spirituality but you can touched on that already internal work i mean is that some of the same i have a really strong spiritual practice i'm very very very dedicated to that  has carried me through many many many experiences i'm really grateful for it really grateful for it you know the music is a spiritual experience for me the listening the  off so that i can learn the material and and try to bring myself to it that's also very much a spiritual experience but i do a tremendous amount of actual prayer and meditation and have for quite some time i believe in it it it  it serves me it serves the world i believe it has made me a better person well he's no better human being you know it's