intention is that their messages will be confidential and that only the recipient will have the means to turn the encrypted message back into the original text third parties who handle the message in between them might be able to access the message but they won't be able to understand its contents but the bottom of the slide and i won't go through these today we've outlined a number of areas in which on light and fin for the protection of our personal security as well as our national security again yes this slides is an interesting example because on the right hand side in the graphic you'll see a lot of information about two different encr advertisers government agencies and criminals can get access to data while it's in route between the sender and the receiver and at one level if you want to encryption would be for example a secure messaging service such as signal where it doesn't matter how many parties the message goes through between the sender and the recipient it's encrypted the whole way  the second point i think that it's useful to know about this is that we didn't produce this graph this graphic was produced by one of our advocacy partners based on the training and feature but for now let's try to address this question it's shared by sergio i hope i pronounced your name correctly sergio asks is there any global movement to require any server connected to the internet to that it it would be desirable if if they did that and so we've we've tried to remove some of the obstacles to encrypted sessions and encr things like encrypted email and encrypted messaging services where there's no legal requirement for those services to be encrypted but market demand suggests that people w question is what role does the gdpr policies in different countries play around  specify exactly how you should protect data it certainly doesn't go to the level of mandating encryption because it's based on a recognition that data protection is not solely a technical function there are procedural aspects to data protection as well so for example one of the most fundamental principles of gdpr is the principle of data minimization if you don't need  is are only chapter leaders allowed to share the message shared in the last slide this was asked by michael azaria i can answer that no anybody at all can share the message the more people who knows it the am all in nice focus on the human aspect versus the tech seems to be the most important feature what would be the best way to help educate in your opinion whether it's by video social media print a focus on the human aspects of encryption versus the technical aspects and i think that's the distinction it's really important to understand when we're doing advocacy especially to policymakers because the that's breaking the fundamental design principle you're taking away some technical protection and trying to make up for it with human judgment and human activity and that's always going to be less secure than the technical solution as it was designed so that's the first bit this this balance between human process and judgment and what the technology does automatically is a critical one to maximize the secur three years now is the computers affect the physical world but that's that's the biggest change probably of the last five years in in it terms and so that means that your physical safety can be put at risk basically substance the the training course is open to all members maybe the wording must be changed of course if you're a chapter member you would say that you could invite people but not leader but basically what we were trying to say just now is that if you're a chapter member you are welcome to share it around and you are also welcome to also sign up for the e learning training course i hope that answers the question let me just see if there's i'm conscious that when you come to this as a new topic it can be daunting it can be off putting it can be complicated so we've invested i would say about a year in producing materials that explaining corruption that explain the different kinds of keys that are used and topics like that will take you to a landing page where you can get to lots of the other materials that we've produced to perfect is there any more questions before we still have fifteen more minutes left but if we don't have any more questions i would just like to go on and remind you on the on the initiative that participants are required to do in order to receive the certificate thought let's just give maybe a few more seconds for participants or any of you on the call to address anything internet society platform or can these be on your personal blogs  we will be in touch with you after the sessions to share with you all of the necessary information and details that you that might be helpful for you to continue with this jeep with your initiative and also for you to see there's no open questions any more questions that anyone would like to ask if you would like to raise your hand feel free to do so we have about ten more minutes before we end if not we can no i'm just i'm just making my plans to get to british columbia alright so i would just like to remind all of the participants once again i don't see any questions being asked so just to remind you for participants to be able to get a certificate of completion for this program you have to be registered you have to join this webinar and you also have to complete your initiative and this is something that will have to be done you know in coordination wi be emailed and will be communicated to you from us or through your coordinators so please yeah so i'm sorry okay i'm sorry i just thought i thought it was a question in the chat but if you have any questions you can reach out to  engagement managers for each of the region for the asia pacific it's me and for the other regions you can also let me just share with you a couple of helpful links in the chat and if you have any further questions you can also be in touch with any further questions regarding to encryption you may also reach out to the presenters robin just shared his email just now need to would you like to share your your email address as well just in case all right so i think there are no further questions left and with that i think it's okay to end the call i would like to end the call speakers at robin and all of my colleagues under call thank you for being here today thank you for the participants thank you to the participants for being with us today and keep in touch and we look forward to see all of your amazing and brilliant