one this is a little different show we are going there personally actually be able to say hi how are you it's been a long time since i've been in front of the screen and will later in the show explain why  but but i'd like to do is introduce you to a subject anyone who's been listening to me for years know that out been pounding on this the water districts on the floor idea that quality of the water and it goes on and on particularly florid a huge issue the more we find out the more research it's demanding something be said and something being done immediately still i want lot like to introduce the panel as audrey's gott why is it still added to the water we drink cook and shower with the good news is countries like israel in cities like portland wichita in davis california have rejected for a nation and we can to tell here's what you want to do first get all the facts at dot org second go to florida protection dot org for everything you need to protect your family from the war and then work with your city's fluorite awareness groups to get this poison out of your communities go ahead well you have kind of a tight schedule so why don't we let you go right ahead and let's hear from you oh ok my name is audrey adams and i'm on the board of washington action for safe water and i decade and a half ago i knew absolutely nothing about fluoride or any possible harm that we might experience from tap  water unfortunately my son suffered from that lack of knowledge and so i hope that we can help inform the you are so they my son is now twenty nine he has autism and he has very limited language but sixteen years ago he was suffering from an array of bizarre and very severe symptoms the top of which was chronic pain pain all the time pain in his hands pain and his extremities and chronic head pain all the time headaches all the time i had to do something he  whenever there is pain for a person with autism they spend their time yelling jumping screaming heart racing their autistic behaviors go straight up and so and even pain medication like tylenol makes the situation much worse anyway so i went to buy medical treatment conferences around the country to try to figure out how to relieve his pain and among that i finally discovered that he was chemically sensitive and so i did a complete overhaul of his diet cleaned all of the chemicals from his food sources totally changed to what kind of cleaning products we use everything and a year later he was a lot better much much better but still he had background pain every day and never really went away finally have a friend in who has two children with autism now adults in portland suggested that i take him off of florida native water and i did that and in three days we saw a significant difference in just three days his pain level went way down  this makes all the difference in the world to his ability to have a meaningful life to have to be able to have a job with fluoride when he's if he had a drug for it it would be extremely disastrous but anyway his autistic symptoms immediately go straight up if he has any exposure to for it he is so sensitive to florida water he cannot tolerate even a short shower the result of a short shower in florida and water is pain within minutes i'm extremely concerned what to say one of the reasons that this issue is so important to me is yes because of my own son but it took me fourteen years to figure out the level of his pain and and i know for a fact that there are many children out there who don't know and whose parents don't know that their children are suffering from florida needed water or other exposures to florida including the florida in their toothpaste  fluoride in food products and it ruins families that pain is something that takes over your life and it's incredibly important to address pain and other symptoms that are taking place for our kids with autism and all other children who have neurological disorders i think or are far more susceptible  one thing that is also extremely concerning to me and then i realized that we must have more attention given to the harms to the children is that forty one percent of our adolescents according to the c currently have dental fluorosis and there is only one cause of dental fluorosis and that is too much fluoride from all exposures and blacks suffer significantly more harm have a much higher rate of dental cirrhosis than d children and other nationalities there's further evidence of harm to children by fluoride for example instead he's where  ireland when they compared florida aided areas to un forty eight areas and an epidemiological study there they found that approximately one out of three cases of autism could be attributed to poor da further that same study that looked at basically all health all health incidences they found a shocking three hundred percent increase in sids death in the florida aided areas compared to the un fluoridated areas that scares the heck out of me and it should everybody else we don't study fluoride here in the united states or rarely study here in the united states certainly we don't have the c d c does not support a real intensive look into what it's doing to our children there's hardly a disease that isn't somehow affected that isn't to say that it's caused by ford but there is hardly a disease that isn't affected negatively according to that epidemiological study further there was a study in two thousand and twelve  at harvard school of public health where they looked at all of the studies worldwide on neural development in the brain and fluoride exposure and what they found was twenty out of twenty twenty seven studies or of quality that they considered in this matter analysis twenty six out of twenty seven of those studies actually found damage to the developing brain  we have to make this a priority we don't have a choice it's extremely important that we get florida out of the water and all other sources of florida as well so about and it just matter what the view of politicians want to brush over we need real truth is gun can you fill us in a more well yes my name scott schock i'm president of washington action for safe water our website by the way is debbie debbie debbie de w a f w dot org you can find a lot of excellent video and other content there that will help you get educated and share the message about this important issue my background is in civil environmental engineering as civil engineers we study water purification and water treatment technologies in school and those those technologies are designed to provide pure clean water for the public to consume we also learn about the practice of chlorination to provide disinfection to throughout our water distribution system but the practice of water fluoridation has nothing to disinfection and nothing to do with providing pure clean water so the more i learned about water fluoridation the more i wanted to understand what what was the benefits of this practice i reached out to seattle public utilities to try to understand what information what research they had to support the practice and i wasn't satisfied by the stock responses that they gave me which sounded like something that they would give to anybody that asked the question so then i began seeking out others that were looking into this issue and i found washington action for safe water and joined the group to participate in local action on this issue and i found a lot of smart capable and knowledgeable individuals in the group including audrey as you've heard from already and allie our vice president who is a water  i knew that i could get the fluoride in my my toothpaste and my mouth wash but i've never paid any attention to the warning labels on the bath of and then then in two thousand and six i received an e mail  online and i read the words of dr paul connett when he was asked a question i'd like to share that with you now the question was what is the fluoride product that is added to the public water supply in the seattle area production of us late for lies or to this substance is not f d a approved and is not a pharmaceutical purified grade it contains trace amounts of heavy metals such as lad arsenic and radium three according to the e p a no chronic health effects health studies exist on this substance and for carmen common charcoal filters do not remove fluoride well that so shocked and challenge my told me to get a hold of a doctor bill austin ison who at that time was the president of washington action for safe water and we may see a very short video from him in just a few minutes here  so i also went to a dr hans website which is the fluoride alert but dot org and there i saw a copy of this book the floor i deception by christopher bryson it's one of the grace to the greatest whodunits i have ever read and when i got to reading it i wanted to know who had the movie rights now i wonder why nobody's ever done the movie how hazardous waste ended up in our drinking water and the bad science and powerful politics that keep it there so i also purchased the two the n r c s two thousand six fluoride drinking water a scientific review of e p a standards this one really reads like a heavy text book i'll tell you about these two are hard to put down but all of the evidence against water fluorida that my investigation led me to i thought it was my due diligence as an elected water commissioner to share it with my elected officials idea they all thanked me for the work i was doing they all agreed the floor i had to dump along in the water but their schedules were so busy they just didn't have time to get on this issue so then i would witness fifteen petitions to the washington department of health for word rule change on fluoride by dr bill last medicine all fifteen dismissed followed by two attempts to get the washington board of pharmacy to rule that the florida added to public water systems to treat a condition was a drug dismissed again so because our elected officials and government agencies will not help us to right this wrong it is up to we the people to make this happen that's why we're here today was call for investigation seattle is the largest distributor of floor data of water in the state of washington our goal is to bring both sides of the water fluoridation debate to the table and we need the help of every one of you out there listening watching this call for investigation for water fluoridation and to help make this happen and a couple of interesting facts it's a waste of money as over ninety five percent of the floor date of water that comes through your taps goes down the drains and out into the environment where it is illegal to go in the first place but not after it has been diluted in the public water system and the fluoride that is the liberty to water districts is a cup made with an amnesty yes that's a material safety data sheet and it's marked hazardous product and it's handled as such until it goes into the public water systems and th deemed a health benefit wow roy yes yes don that is true and what's really a shame is also on that m s g s sheet there's forty nine chemical companies that supply the fluoride they causing this disease problem so much that it's phenomenal to me that it could exist in ninety seven percent of western europe said forget it no way and i think one of the just highlight a couple of things i think there's a one good way to message this is that water fluoridation is unnecessary unsafe and an ethical it unnecessary because we have fluoride in toothpaste mouthwash and other dental products if people want to use it we have fluoride already occurring in food products through pesticides and other and use of florida added water are getting too much fluoride you heard from audrey about the occurrence of over forty to forty percent of teens suffering dental fluorosis if they if those callous calcium tissues the teeth are receiving chloride you know that other calcified to she's like bones are as well now secondly why is it on faith because the practice of putting in the water ignores the total dose that people are experiencing because water consumption varies widely among individuals those that are let's say immigrants that have day labor or manual labor are consuming a lot more water  where typically public health practice use you're seeking to protect the most vulnerable in the population this is my experience from environmental consulting where you have exposures and potential exposures and you're it violates basic civil rights and fundamental human rights when seattle public utilities add forty thousand chemicals the public water to treat dental caries by authority of the seattle city council citizens are being stripped of their rights to deny that treatment or that drug and it is affecting not only seattle citizens but all are parts of bellevue bought full beer in des moines duvall admin's is a quad can scan more kirkland lake forest well it is it is but seattle's going to be a particularly significant example of this because seattle's water is filled to so many communities in those communities have not had a voice on that and finally several city council members are doing what no doctor is allowed to do forcibly medicate without consent neither doctors or toxicologist do this but seattle see council mandate this drug to about one point five million people in king county the whole thing is centered around what is it doing to you what is it doing to your children what is it going to do to your future health and if you do not have any answers  justified or which is not just a fact and then when i read right at the beginning the constitution where it says to promote the general welfare do you think the use of fluoride is promoting the general welfare of the crux of the matter when they first started i was promoting the better health for children but from what you are talking about right now is that not even the case so how does the use of fluoride how does it promote network has a great resource of studies research collected on fluoridation and its effect on all types of body systems you can go there and you can search on anything related  innovate and so we have had the health insurance be a huge spoke us of the problems involved with this and obama's giving illegals directly linked to chronic disease like which we should be listening to and this research is well validated people are going through misery to bring this out in this forward like dr paul kahn and i really i like to look into that further people if you've got any further information about gilberto valet known as accountable cop convicted in two thousand and thirteen for kidnapping conspiracy and cetera let's get into because we have more and more releases of illegal immigrants illegal felons murders the list goes on anyway i obama's attorney general nominee has seized over nine hundred and four million in private property and civil assets for for sure and does that qualify that person for attorney general well let's find out more and the native american currently going after the keystone pipeline and they are saying it is an act of war that they are going to be demanded to take what little reservation they've got left and go right through it for the keystone and who press benefits and prospers from that i doubt it's  common person and i doubt it's native american particularly and mexican cops have been shooting well basically cops shooting a pregnant american gets no attention from obama whatsoever or holder for that matter and how come holder is still in his position as attorney general not a quit resigned would and we could be czars and watch as in law enforcement officials plot how to steal your stuff that's an article in there you may want to take a look at and all too much has been has been heavily affected anyone in that area please do some testing on water and to find out more e p a a loophole allows fracking companies to inject diesel chemicals into ground the ground with out oversight now this sounds like fluoride and or there's even the chlorine problem when measuring that properly in local water districts have no noted that three people were affected with either died of a heart attack had a severe heart attack or almost ended up in the hospital when too much chlorine was added so i'm hoping that scott's go help us a lot with the water districts on that to get that measured properly ok and obama administration refuses to release names of dangerous criminals illegal aliens and let loose in the u s this is part of what i was referring to didn't before we do have other cures and so on i'm going to skip the war games around the navy we are kind of short on time for several different reasons but one of which i want our guests to be able to conclude what they needed to get across and thank you so much for the use of your computer i have finally got one but my computer is not working  what you really need to look at and what matters at the end is what's your total body load so are getting a lot of heart from a lot of different sources we've had a tremendous increase in florida from many sources water is one source when we drink that water and when it's made into soda pop or is meeting beverages and made into soups made into other products we get floored from that source also and we also have a lot of pesticides that have come on the market that we fluoride residues on fruits and vegetables fluoride is a very common component in pesticides and so you know if you drink a glass a grape juice not organic grape juice then it's got skins on it you're going to get a very high level a just from your grape juice and they're also getting it from toothpaste studies have shown that you swallow quite a minute to spare the children's all quite a bit of toothpaste even if they're in are told not to swallow it it just happens by accident and they don't rinse as well as adults and sometimes they don't have a smaller actions and therefore they're getting a lot of fluoride from that so who's monitoring this exposure of when are we getting too much no one's monitoring that nobody's looking at the total exposure to ensure that we're not getting too much and that certain sub groups aren't getting too much the reality is we need to reduce our florid intake  two thousand and five the center of disease control admitted that thirty two percent of children in the united states including children known for have dental for about a third of the children in this country have some form of dental ferocious meaning that they had too much florid exposure during their early childhood dental fluorosis is damage to the tooth because it too much florid exposure we swallow too much fluoride and it shows up as white spots brown spots on the teeth you see these white spots or splotches or lines in more severe for us you actually see the surface layer flaking off you see brown spots and in severe cases there's actual shipping pitting and the tooth dental for roe versus is a bio maka that your child has been over exposed to fluoride during the development of that we now believe that there are several mechanisms involved fluoride could be inhibiting the enzymes that we are taking action locally here the momentum is shifting as much as it seems challenging to overcome this issue we need to communicate it about it we need to go in front of city council they're the ones that have the ability to change this practice we are going to be visiting the seattle city council over the coming year they have several committees that we can speak on this issue of at the public safety civil rights and technology committee this is a public safety and civil rights issue that where minorities are being particularly put risk with this practice and secondly the seattle public utilities committee there are meetings monthly or several times a month at two pm on tuesdays and wednesdays for those two committees so don't join us at our website to be b w w a s w dot org and just put in your e mail address there and we'll get you the information about when we're going to go before those communities it's you have a city council and start educating the council members about this issue your strength the numbers folks join in and we work together to get real solutions keith do you want to show  firsthand now when he was in seattle he had a terrible psoriasis problem and he left for arkansas with clean water and you only recently they force i do mean force in fluoride in fort smith arkansas and now look at the result on his hand it's right back here it's stronger on the hand on the back of  gone during the one time as well and this is starting to be a little bit of the one in time and then i was coming over here but it started to come back when i was still in arkansas and that was right after the fluoride initiation by the way that florida initiation was paid for by the dental association to instigate putting more ideas now what would promote them to do that why would they feel that they would it would be so worth their while if they would lose business while they're not losing business i can tell you that right now well we are causing so much damage my son it was a perfect example of what they just had up on that clip he had perfect teeth i mean perfect teeth and he had a fluoride treatment right after that fluoride treatment used he really was i don't even junk beautiful wonderful teeth and he has so many problems with it because of that one flaw right treatment now i get that it one trophy treatment could do that can you imagine what that's doing to your children inside you and you can tell th subject and i get upset about it but the watcher is most up your body if you don't have water you you don't have clean water you don't have anything you certainly don't have health re three quarters water you know at least i thought it was really interesting when audrey was mentioning that her son within minutes or take a short shower it would affect him now i mean obviously he's more temperamental to show you that way is more susceptible to chemical influences but that still is going to affect the rest of our bodies as well yeah and i don't know if the two you have some other what other medical problems can it cause question is how much is being taken up into your body and you know we really don't know i don't think that because science has been done well on the flip side you are also mentioned that when you you probably absorb more water  added water when your working outside on the flipside if you're short of water working outside how should i put it you can drink water and drink water and drink water and  not have to use a facilities comes out of your skin so the fluoride is going to come out of your skin as well in a hotter environment at least that's what i've noticed so so the other damaging items it's really pay attention to him and because he knows what he's talking about he has the research and there's a reason why the prole fluorite people don't want to debate him because he knows what he's talking about on the basis that was also being done one one of which are told you at the end of the show i tell you why i haven't been on screen as been in arkansas and it is not been allowed for me to be on screen and this is just one of the  that you name it won't work and they don't want it they didn't want that visual of me would you show you a picture of my great great great great great great grandmother if you rabbit hero ok go for it but you see if they see the resemblance they have he shown that there it is ok my great great great grandmother i have i put that outfit on and i think people would take me for being her and the point is a lot of the u k people would listen and you're talking about the united kingdom around the world you know winnie this space would say something you know a lot of people probably listen but you know anyway that's just that they're silly reason for keeping you off camera and i think it's silly because i'm sorry i'm not you know i'm not her she's my great great great grandmother that's where it stops ok and then that case we can get into a whole lot more but what what's been happening in this world has been a whole lot of deception just like that picture just like the floor i'd just and what's but it's probably the same idea behind the floor fluoride as it is with marijuana it's human marijuana is cumulative fluoride is cumulative in the effects that it has on the body i know that was interesting when i run across that as anybody addressed that as an issue also well yes definitely it's been addressed because we really notice it in our seniors where it's accumulated into their bones and it's breaking their bones are not falling down and breaking their hips  throughout their lives it's this is totally changing his life and everything he planned on doing is not getting done next to one person can you imagine other one is not only affecting people with dr richard s are in southern california at the horse race track down there when they started boarding the water down there a little orses started falling had to be shot and yeah they realised it and they literally had to shut down one racetrack because horses when you have a county fair you have a horse show or horse race so you go to the next one so that's how the horse racing goes and in california as a county circuit therefore also a horse racing circuit it's a little bit different than maybe here where you have a race track and they might go all summer and then stop but yeah it is a social event more so down in california than up doesn't realize what this what they're sitting on with this issue there i think there's a lot of liability for the city i mean i think you and not only that there's cost they're spending a lot of money to put this in our water budgets are not unlimited they're going to budgeting process right now in fact talking about cutting public defenders i heard on the radio over here well you  know we're going to get in front of city council regularly for the next year and we're going to lead that into a demand for removal of fluoridation from the city of seattle and all the fifteen plus cities that use water from seattle public utilities so please get involved to come to our web site debbie debbie debbie w a f w dot org put in your name and e mail address there and we'll let you know about the upcoming meetings we'll get information to you not too much just enough and get involved so we can take this thing out of our water now so that if we get enough people together the city council and been up against a rock and a hard place on several different issues and they have a different using they think they have a reason for it city council listen to me if you do not have that reason or reasons and it's about time you are responsible you should pollo us see a title eighteen section poor when you know about a crime you had best report it properly and act appropriately or you are accomplice now would you like to be accomplice to in anything from you know it human him basically going against human rights to the constitution to the in every aspect of this if you don't think that you're liable think again and people realize that they they think they're stuck between a rock and a hard place if there's enough of us that say and not the you're going to do your job right and we stand our ground we can do something the only way things are going to be done and the only reason they're going to take away their conflict of interest or whatever it is involved is for our standing together being a united front and saying what needs to be said i thought it was the public defender's budget the public defender's budget is more of a constitutional issue constitutional right and then the fluoridation has previously promoted jelf general welfare not promoting general welfare is just the opposite and the constitutional duty of a city council so they're considering dropping or reducing the budget for the public defender's office and keeping the fluor budget in the same so it's just the opposite of what they really should be doing in that walking on sort of very dangerous constitutional grounds it is sort of it's very unlikely because that the public defender has a real service that the people in the comments that we need farai is not it is not economical because like for example take a thousand dollars worth of fluoride photosphere tap nine hundred ninety five dollars goes down the drain doesn't go down the drain with the public defender but it goes with the fluoride so they really will be to look at their priorities of where they spend their money but i'm not like shit down the drain we need to help at their prior it is now well we're going to do the right thing but it can't be done united working together if we don't hand strength in numbers it's been just like we've been each and every one of these and it's not just this location it's round the world in many ways so if we start doing the right steps at the right time even the city council might even do their job right if than fifty thousand population and is being mandated now is being enforced but i'm not seeing in the state of arkansas the petition or member coming out to say let's stop the chlorid s and i wouldn't doubt that's going to happen here pretty soon it will need to enter and everyone but that might be the only that might be have to be continuous every two year amendment because in a memo by the people in this state from what i'm recalling is is have a period of two year period two year period of time in the city council legislature exciter then they can ignore it and do something else but in a two year period of time they can't change an amendment never ratified by the people in the constitution that is in the library of congress was ratified by the people but it was written in seven or eight hundred seventy eight big difference now when they think that they're stuck by the current constitution that was not even ratified by the people should they be i don't see why we should be back to the original constitution but oh that puts a real glitch in it because all of a sudden part of idaho would actually be part of washington state that you know that that was the boundaries were set for that originally and it says in the const us constitution that you cannot rearrange courthouses were burned purposely and different court put in place not common law anymore they had admiralty and they had to particular judge judges that were doing what they're told and they were able to get a whole lot of things through that most people don't even realize the thirteenth amendment was not anything to do with this voluntary involuntary servitude by the way look up that whole terminology it's a catch twenty two and you're saying we have two minutes left ok to to sum this up very quickly the thirteenth amendment stated you could not have the judicial mixing in with the legislation and the executive we had the new constitution eight hundred eighty nine rewritten was the chairman of the supreme supreme court a washington state supreme court chief justice chaired that change that's how they got by with it supposedly legally now city council now that you know that how about doing something about it and standing your ground and do what the people need not what you think you need to save your own anyway on which jurisdiction you're in and in portland for example they they never had to fluoridation then when the council tried to sneak it through then the people said heck no we're going to take a vote and they over ruled it but in the seattle area we've been living with it for a long time the populace thinks it's a good thing because they've been told it's a good thing and they've been educated on that and then the other issue is that our state supreme court has said that we can't