defibrillator so in the beginning when we did this we shook him we tried to wake him up a wake up now where you really do is you say call now one want to that special person go call person is shocked the better chance that they have to survive ok and these different relate is are all over the place now the at the airports at quest feel  i'm not sure if to at the train station as they are a lot of the high rises some of the community centers there just almost eventually will be as common as a fire extinguisher and they are really simple to you you can use it k make a mistake so we like to do in the classes as i normally would just pick a person out and have them come up with no knowledge of it and count to take them through it and then you'll see how i work so if you  ok basically what the scenario would be you come right here we will be walking down the hall where we might be and we saw this person down i would too oh you mean you go call ok it tells us to call for him now in case i hadn't removed the clothing i had removed the clothing and told us what to do still doing something and i give a couple o work jay nastiness to don't touch him if i just if i just touch it like that to pick my posts up it wouldn't do anything you see in standing by now it has it has  now what is happening is when a person has a heart attack our heart normally beast like this when a person's having a heart attack is doing like that ok and then when you shock them that's what puts it back in the room and that's what we're done we like that at first and then you shock them and it goes back in the real now what happens is after we deliver the shock since we don't check the polls for us as citizens once we shock them with this then we come back and we do c p r again for fats rounds or about two minutes i would continue to do c p r again even these don't come off leave him alone and i come over here and i do fab rounds as soon as i stop after the field the round this  soon as we stop it or reanalyze again and in the the say shock or no shock if we see is no shot for us as citizens again since we don't check the polls we just do it again  that run over to sequence for now where we mentioned was the first thing we do we found a person is we always make sure it is seen as safe make sure you're protected before you try to help somebody and then we based it on a b c so make sure the scene is safe i shake him gently hey wake up you go call now one one and get the aiding that's what we want if this available we come back over here to them it's always the same a b c a means open the airway right here just like so and remember when we do that what you doing brain is telling the chest to move in and but it's no air going into the lungs and this happens in a lot of situations strokes and overdoses electrical shock things like that everything is looking normal but they're not breathing ok so that's why it's vital that when ever you check a person this unconscious for breathing you have to have the airway open but you have to be down there with them just like that you can step back and look at them and ok so that's that's where you check in for breathing ok now if they're not breathing this is my a not breathing the now to they used to do fifteen but they changed to thirty because it was found that it takes ten of the us just to get the balloon movement so we was doing fifteen and stop and and now you can do thirty and it saves a lot it took ten of those i guess to get it pranic ok so we used to do fifteen and stop whatever meant that we was only doing five pushes now we do thirty so it takes ten to get right back again and every time you come over here he is going to fall down oh that's ok cause he's not breathing yeah he's still on conscious and he opposed now but each time i come over here always real peace to know you to breath come back over here thirty and as i mentioned once you start for us as citizens don't ever stop until they wake up we're still not gonna normally do and not stress is too much lately but if you are getting ever have a situation unsure what to do if you can remember the thirty into that's the what the research is see it they should be done  not what the american heart association they're not in for size and that at this point but that's one of the things that we do talk about also notice you bring your knees  right the person would be on the floor they would be on a bit on a table a little infant now you would put him up on a table ok but an adult would never be on a table so i would be down on the floor with him and my knees of be up here so that straight up and down here if i have my knees back i'm like that he was in my arms which i won last long so i come up here and i'm straight up and down get out there start up again now point is that is a window of tam that you can stop and it's about men and a half to two men so we could do that we could do it here stop as long as we didn't go past two minutes get him out do some more for maybe a couple minutes stop moving down to the corner stop do some more moving medic too is where you know what medic one is medic one is the actual fire department unit that shows up at the house where the medics are they are the lifesavers more or less hands on medic to is a name of the program that's citizen c p r the citizen c p r training program is called medic two yeah it's  funded by like a mention king county and city of seattle and they use firefighters to teach the citizen classes and they give them at all over the county at community centers  centers private homes and you call that number and they can set it up for you the classes take about two hours to they there is no charge but they do ask for