evening or if you're tuning in later we should have a nice informative evening of two important topics so we'll kick this right off with a presentation by our police chief chief mccaskey come on down good evening mayor and city council before we get started i'd like to introduce edgewater chief of police john mackey who has a letter to read a commendation letter for the lakewood police department and john's a of one of our former longtime police had a great time in this city so i feel like i'm amongst friends but it's been eighteen years since i left and and so now i'm really here to say thank you i'm here to say thank you for the support that the lakewood city council gives our lakewood police department and that support goes on throughout our county and sometimes as city council folks you don't realize sometimes these long relationships we had i was i was out of the economy commissioners just a couple weeks coming and it wasn't really just a doubt as a volunteer but that's what it happened that was our first volunteer i forgot that story until i just got in front of the county commissioners the other day and i thought we have strong partnerships right and i would say we have strong partnerships to out this  introduced to michelle and when i start at lakewood maggie grille was the edgewater a city clunk and i thought it was so funny that i was thank you i'm glad i got to meet you michelle but but maggie had been at  edgewater when she started i was at lakewood obviously and i heard she just retired so he's been longtime career a lot longtime relationships and i i don't i'm not going to spend the time to read the letter it's kind of l in the edgewater city council to say thank you that's really what i'm here for that's all i'm really here for this to say thank you but what you need to realize is you know when something happens in another city it can be traumatic and we had an edge it was seventeen hours standoff you know we're a small agency of under twenty people your your your your commander your chief your your command staff you got  top people here and and i need to say this you know kathy and i started about the same time in the city she still looks the same i look like i should've retired ten years ago but you know i just let you know these relationships i was we  benefits so much the collaborative effort but ultimately your support to our police department is essential i just want to say thank you that's all have a good night applause chief mackey and again good evening mayor and members of city council we have a short presentation we're gonna i'm going to start with that i'd like to introduce our guests here today i my command staff with me division chief eadie lowers our support services division chief division chief anita kester's our investigation division chief and steve rickles is our patrol division chief and then next to steve is carey nordland one of our crime analysts who's put together a lot of this information today for us so about three weeks ago the city manager asked me to talk about crime and lakewood yeah i mean and so  so we put together some statistics and some different charts and some maps and and hopefully we can have a good conversation tonight and we're open for a lot of questions after the presentation and we're all going to be answering those questions for you but the first thing i thought i would start with is our calls for service and i haven't the next chart will show this a little bit better but we started april of eighteen with this because that's when we switched to jeff come the new regional nine communications center and we switch to a different computer aided dispatch system we went to try tech when we when we made that cut over so it records calls for service a little differently than our old intergraph cad system so that's why we wanted to start with two thousand  and eighteen april when we made that switch and you'll see another that we've been fairly consistent with our citizen generated calls for service as well as our officer generated calls for service this next slide kind of explains it a lot shows it a little better the number so at the very bottom column you'll see total calls for service and again those are citizen generated an officer generated so basically we're between nine and eleven thousand calls for service a month for the lakewood police department so we're we're for our size of a city that's probably fairly fairly average we're almost you know over a hundred and fifty five thousand people so you can see that's remain relatively consistent  through since april through august now again this is just for january st of this year through august st of this year we weren't able to pull the data for september but if you look that you see our top ten citizen generated calls for service then our top ten officer generated calls for service so you see theft is probably on our one of our number one citizen generated and if you just go down that list welfare check disturbance unwanted party that and the unwanted party could be a number of different things  could be somebody at a business at a bar could be a homeless person someone calls on you know so there's a lot of different things with that suspicious vehicle parking complaints accidents so you can see there's a variety of different different calls there but the majority of those are act tend to be non criminal events they could turn into crime reports later but but generally i say eft is our number one call for service this year so far and then if you look to the top ten officer generated traffic stops we have made almost ten zero traffic stops you know we also we also if you think about that we have to traffic teams that their sole focuses traffic enforcement but ordinance violation could be a number of different things extra patrol requests we do those often when people have have something going on or they want us to have have more visibility those types of things so so that's just sort of an example of from this year what we're where we're at now this and i'll have another slide as well with this but this kind of just shows you some of the metro wide trends we've added denver aurora wheat ridge and lakewood in there and we had the populations are in there so you see we're just over one hundred and fifty six thousand the numbers are of crimes are different just because the population but if you see you kind of look at the trend there and the trend we're all fairly trending the same same way throughout the metropolitan areas through these these cities you know you see the years there then you see the different crimes you know homicide we tend to have fewer of those motor vehicle thefts are prevalent in throughout the metro area we know that and division chief kestrel talked about some of the things we've done to combat that but you can see for a lakewood perspective i mean we we are basically trending as other metropolitan cities ours our part our neighbors in denver and  this is another chart on the on metro wide trends you can see denver's the blue line aurora's the red we are the purple line there and wheatridge is the green line so once again you look the numbers are going to be different because population is different but you see you know the homicide robbed aggravated assault burglary motor vehicle theft and sexual assaults a motor vehicle theft motor vehicle theft is again one of the most prevalent crimes in the metro area that we're seeing but again i  you know i know there's there's been comments made and all the next slide we'll talk about some percentages but you know it we are large city in a major metropolitan area and we're going to experience crime and you can see where we're really no different than a lot of our other cities we've broke down this through probably the the top crimes that we were looking at homicide sex assault robbery aggravated assault and the property crimes and the these are considered group a crimes by  national incident based reporting system that's basically the old fbi statistics that we now submit our crimes to so if you look at those statistics there i think first thing that jumps out is we've had nine homicides this year that's a lot division  kester is going to talk a little bit about those and i know i'll tear the belmar homicide where we had two two people stabbed to death was pretty shocking for all of us and that was just a random crime there was no relationship between the suspect that we arrested and and the two people that were killed in the park if i knew how to prevent that i would but that was just a random crime there was no connection and that case will be prosecuted but i know that that had a lot people concerned it had us concerned because it was so random most of our homicides tend there tends to be a relationship between our victims and our suspects whether it's domestic violence whether it's a drug deal whether it's a disturbance there tends always almost always be a relationship so that's why belmar was so was so concerning for us but generally we have four or five homicides a year which for a city our size is not bad one homicides too many but we're  our homicides don't tend to normally be that that high the two thousand and nineteen statistics you see there that's only through august st so you have to kind of extrapolate out a little bit  percentages you can see we've had some increases we've also had some decreases i've heard three hundred percent and i actually was here one night at public comment i heard three hundred percent increase in crime not sure where that came from it's not accurate not factual based on there's no basis of fact for that i will tell you you know do we have some increases in crime yes three hundred percent i've heard that number bannered about not true not accurate so so hopefully this dispel some of that if you look you know you see our motor vehicle thefts were up last year but this year the so far were we're trending down or that's one of game one of our biggest crimes arrests have remained relatively stable as well that number has an increased dramatically or decreased dramatically and we're probably right on par for roughly ten ten to eleven thousand arrests again this year gonna have a couple maps for you this is a heat map and if there's questions i can we can have our crime analysts respond to this but this first map is our person's crime and where they're generally concentrated in the city of lakewood  i'm sorry that's property crimes i the wrong page there but so you'll see our property crimes and you'll see this it's pretty consistent west colfax drives our crime rate  particularly between sheridan and wodsworth and it always has in my career west colfax has always been a driver of our crime rate i'd like to tell you that i have some great ideas about how to change that i would tell you that you cannot arrest your way out of a out of a situation like west colfax that needs economic revival it needs it needs good policy decisions by by our lawmakers by our city council you know it i dilapidated area and and unfortunately it causes us a lot of crime issues and i and i'm i don't mean to be disparaging about that but it does create a lot of work force and in my thirty three years here it always has but you'll see that's w colfax on our property crimes i missed there's our persons crimes and again you'll see it's west colfax between wodsworth and shared and that really drives that there's a hot spot out on union that saint anthony hospital and and there's not a lot of crime there but there's a lot of crime reported there so if somebody's transported from anywhere in the metro area from how to out a county we get a lot of reports at saint anthony's that's why that that's  a hot spot there for you but again i saw our persons and our property crimes are directed on what again you see the concentration on west colfax and then this is this is overall this is persons  property crimes again where you see those you'll see belmar has a you know a pretty significant footprint there but there's a lot of apartments we did a lot of property crimes your car break ins car thefts things like that but you  see a couple of our big retail box stores are on there you can see them on the map you can see a couple of our hotels on there so when you talk crime in lakewood this is where we concentrate a lot of our efforts and we've done some things too recently i mean you all have passed passed that lodging license which i think is going to be really helpful for us that to help combat crime on west colfax that's just one tool though that we have and i'm to invite division chief rickles from our patrol division to talk about some of them some of our enforcement activities that some of the things that we're doing to combat crime you know we're aware of a lot of where it's occurring and we're out there doing a lot of different operations and so chief rickles is gonna come speak about that thank you evening evening mayor and city council thanks for allowing me to speak yeah my name's steve urkel's i'm in charge with patrol division so i like to discuss two items first are the proactive operations both patrol and investigations division have participated in over the past three years that address criminal activity in lakewood and secondly the daily responsibilities of patrol agents so regarding the proactive operations they involve participation from our federal state partners to include u marshals dea atf parole and csp all of the operations i'm about to discuss are directed towards areas of the city that have consistently seen higher rates of criminal activity based on statistics provided by our crime a there are three types of proactive operations the police department regularly participates in to address crime one of which you may have heard of the colfax motel operations these operations normally occur three to four times a year to involve patrol agents detectives and agents from various state and federal agencies these operations are large they include thirty to forty law enforcement officers they dress criminal activity both in and around the motels al the second types of operations that the police department participates in are special enforcement team hotspot operations if you don't know our special enforcement team consists of one sergeant and six agents these monthly operations target rising criminal activity anywhere in the city and i'll give you an example the march of this year the set team based on crime analyst data conducted an operation the area of west excuse me west st avenue to th avenue marl resulting the arrest of four fugitives so our operations aren't necessarily always on colfax avenue but for the most part they are the last type of operation i want to discuss is operation triple beam triple beam operations have been conducted three to four times a year and involve the set team and the u s marshals operation triple beam is directed towards three things the first wanted felons located anywhere within the city of lakewood two unregistered sex offenders and lastly criminal activity along a colfax corridor the three types of operations i just discussed have resulted in some of the following the arrests of over one hundred and fifty wanted subjects with lengthy criminal histories the recovery of twelve firearms some of which were stolen over one hundred and thirty summons issued and the seizure of approximately ten pounds of various types of narcotics most of these operations that i stated earlier are directed in and around the motels along colfax avenue though we have also addressed motels in the area of d two hundred and eighty five who was worth boulevard all of our operations have been extremely successful as you've seen and could be done on a weekly basis now i wanted to touch on some of the daily daily patrol responsibilities as a division chief that i expect of the patrol agents excuse me i'd like to talk about the daily patrol responsibilities of our agents and what i expect of them as a division chief in addition to the operations mentioned agents are responsible for a specific motel school and park in their assigned sector it is expected of them that they will form extra patrols that they're assigned parks schools and motels all depending on deployment recent criminal activity and extra patrol requests are discussed daily in every roll call briefing our crime analysts on a weekly basis update our special enforcement team repeat offender program and our sector logs this is done so agents are updated on information on the top ten repeat offenders in lakewood and the chief mentioned the lodging license it's although passed it's still too early for us to determine what kind of effect that's going to have on kerbin criminal activity so in closing i'd just like to reassure you that our patrol agents they take ownership of the areas they are assigned within the city they work closely with our investigations division state and federal partners and crime analysts to address the criminal activity and growing crime trends in the city of lakewood so thank you for your time we've had i like to introduce division chief we need a tester  evening mayor city council i'm division chief anita custer and i lead the investigations division i will provide an update like the chief said regarding the homicides for two thousand and nineteen along with some of the things that the division is doing to address crime of the nine homicides we've had this year two are related to domestic violence five are related to drugs and money and two in the belmar park truly are the anomaly and were random acts of violence by one individual the thing that is important for our community to hear is there is not an outstanding public safety issue we have made arrests on seven of the nine homicides with the investigation continuing on the two unsolved cases as chief mccaskey discussed earlier lakewood has seen similar crime trains in the metro area unfortunately criminals and their activities do not remain in one jurisdiction some of the ways we were combating this are by working with the federal state and local agencies chief rickles talked about the operations on colfax and the hotspot operations i'm going to provide a little bit of information on the update of the specific task forces that investigations has agents assigned to or detectives assigned to to help partner in combat crime projects safe neighborhood is a task force associated with the atf and assists in gun related crimes and we've anytime we recover stolen guns on stolen vehicles or anything else we contact atf and they run through the databases ravin which is considered the regional anti violence enforcement network as a task force associated with homeland security and atf to combat organized gang activity in the associated violent crimes operation safe streets is a task force associated with the fbi and it's instrumental in investigating bank robberies active shooters and kidnappings see matt is a task force specifically designed to address the auto thefts this task force addresses the organized groups and not just individuals but the organized groups responsible for the majority of the auto thefts in the metro area see matt and the local agencies are responsible for recovering over ninety percent of the stolen vehicles in the metro area which is compared to the national average of fifty five percent so we're doing extremely well in that category west metro drug task force focuses along the large scale drug operations and identifying the suppliers of street level drugs and we have agents  detectives assigned to each one of those task force which really helped us partner and address the crimes not only see the trends up throughout the city but throughout the metro area and we can address them as a whole we also have seven seventeen schools and detectives who specialized in different areas such as the burglary robbery person related crimes theft family crimes as well as economic crimes and crimes against children so we have detectives who have the specialties in each of those areas impact on family related crimes areas with the family justice center have seen a fifty percent decrease in domestic violence homicides an increase in victim participation in the criminal justice process and an increase in the ability to provide necessary services to the victims and families with hopes of ending the cycle of familial abuse and we're hoping to have that should be opened at first quarter of next year the reality is is we have crime in lakewood however we really are providing the resources to not only respond to the crimes but we are also working diligently on impacting the crime before it occurs thank you thank you i know that's sort of a brief presentation and i can will be glad to answer any questions or i can bring up any slides again that you'd like to see and this as well as chief caster said we do have crime in lakewood we're a major metropolitan city we're the fifth largest city in the state of colorado and we're we border denver so we are a major metropolitan city so you are gonna have some you are gonna have crime i you know i feel good that the police response to crime in lakewood is very effective and and that's you know that's what you know education prevention those types of things that's what we're working on so so with that i'll be glad to show go back any slides you want to look at or some public comment here in a in a little bit okay okay so thank you for that presentation and i know it's it's always a challenge and you talked about not being able to arrest your way out of it and certainly i think you know that this council as a whole we may not agree on everything but when it comes to public safety i think we're pretty united and especially in willing to ensure that you have what you need as far as strength or you know the different tools what i'm curious and we may not know that tonight but i'd like to say as we go forward if there's other tools if there's other ordinances that you see that could be effective i think it's important for us to know what those could be and we've talked about the motel and then looking at some other property type ordinances so i think that's that's a incredible incredibly important part i also think neighborhood watch we were all at a meeting or some of us were a meeting and there were some concerns about you know how do we get that going again and what does that look like in the city of lakewood as well as what's it look like in the advent of next door when you might see one crime and by the end of the day it's turned in from a shoplifting into maybe you know a homicide via the old game of telephone right that misinformation what does that do the perception in the community and i think those are just a couple things i don't know if there's really a question there but i think it's important to know that we support you and we certainly would support any other types of programs or policies you think that would be effective thanks mara one thing i want to mention about next door though you know and  just a and i'll give an example counselor counselor betta had a question there were reports of drive by shootings in lakewood estates from next door well we found whatever they're being talked about on next door but people aren't calling us and we found we did have we did actually have over the past i believe four months and a crime analysts did a lot of research and so we do see a lot of that on a next door you know where people  will post things but then they don't they don't call us we also see on next door as well where someone will say their car got broken into or the car got stolen there's a lot of that and we've tried to educate people but a lot of times when we have these car break ins they're unlocked purses wallets are sitting on the front on the front seat and they're you know they're just it's a target rich environment and we try and educate people about that you know don't leave your wallet on your in your car don't leave your gun in your car don't leave your purse in your car take your car keys and unfortunately we see a lot of that so so i you know why i think next door is a valuable tool i don't know if it if promotes accuracy as much as it as as it could so and i guess you know when when you hear about these things or you hear about a drive by or you here you know things going on in these neighborhoods it gets a lot of people angry and you want to be able to say it's not gonna tolerate that here and how do we get that message out to folks who are committing the crime and saying it you know this isn't where you're gonna come commit your crimes because you'll be at cotter there'll be severe penalties a night it it's probably the hardest thing you deal with  good question and actually a game with councillor bida we've had conversations about it how do we get that word out and we try through our website to our public information officer and it's difficult you know i wish i had a better answer for the mccaskey for your report i think it's very helpful and i hopefully we've got a good audience at home it's watching some of this so it'll give them some things to think about and  forth kind of a follow up on this these these drive by shootings it seems like it's then maybe it's just a rash of them but it seems like there's been quite a few lately not only in lakewood estates but in other parts of the city and i'm wondering if there's anything that we can do to maybe educate the public eye i noticed one i know one of the conversations we had was that they're not reporting them they just you know they they hear they hear on they know there's shots on the neighborhood and so consult so worth so on and they don't bother to report them and so you they don't really show up in your statistics is that is that a fair statement that that's a fair statement i seem like that but i'm aware of three ones too many but i don't i don't think this you know this is occurring all the time and i'm not going to blame denver for everything but a lot boundaries and just so folks were clear on just make it clear that what we're talking about is where they drive by in the neighborhood and perhaps randomly take pick house and shoot in shoot into the walls and it actually penetrates the walls and and the the bullet ends up in in in the interior of the home and a couple times people have been just you know we're just missed you know residents inside the home and so that's what we're i don't have a you know those those three particular cases i don't i don't have any information as to i don't believe they're related but okay well if there's anything you know we can do  counselors help educate the people maybe to let them know these things need to be reported even though we rail realize there may not be a whole lot you can do about it at any particular case but at least we know what's going on perhaps we can discern a pattern or something like that certainly it helps to be able to retrieve the the forensics see if they're available yes absolutely  again thank you for for your report and for enlighting enlightening us her appreciated thank you and excellent presentation chiefs plural i had a question on one of the very first slides that you had up there you were talking about the number i know it's further into the presentation than that you had stop i'd love to know what a pedestrian stop is that can be a lot of different things it can be somebody jaywalking it can be you know we're on where we're we get a report of a suspicious person and we stop them in a neighborhood or you know there can be a lot of different things so okay it's just it's just a police pedestrian contact okay have we ticketed  or have we talked with bicyclists or scooters you know the the mopeds that are now are we finding that that's any issue trying to keep them in the bicycle lanes and  i haven't heard anything about that just charlie are you aware of any okay no i'm not aware of any any issues with the bicyclist and chief rickles is not aware of any accidents that we've had either that's great last no i've got two more questions and when i first came on council one of the the real concerns at that particular point in time and it was prior to i think gang tax gang task force say that fast three times that was being implemented i haven't in this report i didn't hear anything that you talked about that talked sounded like we have an increase or a concern about additional gang activity in the city and yet we're getting more and more city like crime tell me what's going on there i we didn't well i'll have to have to defer to my crime analyst forgive me i'm new at this so mostly what we've been seeing in terms of gang activity is a lot of denver gang members coming into lakewood and this was actually when i just got started about a year and a half ago and as of recently we haven't seen a lot of that tivity going but what we were seeing was they would come in on the light rail commit their crimes and then head back out but from the last year so we've been seeing they're mostly staying in the denver area that's really good we like them to stay there that's perfect next to last question is in terms of traffic stops are you seeing any difference in the stops this last question but in terms of the types of crimes that we're seeing in in in lakewood one of the concerns that i think a lot of our citizens have is that it feels more and more like we're becoming an urban area and not a suburban area and i'm not sure that i'm clear in their definition between those two are you feeling like there's enough of a crime uptick that that would be a concern that you're finding or are we still a nice sleepy neighborhood suburban area i don't think we're a sleepy suburb i would tell you we're an urban area and and i would tell you to drive the city and you'll see some areas that this isn't the lakewood that you know was was here fifty years ago and again i mean if you drive down drive west colfax between you know and you'll see we have definitely become urbanized thank you for keeping us safe and all that you all do we know that it takes a lot of heart and soul and we really appreciate it thanks for keeping us safe  thank you chief thank you i appreciate you very much coming and publicly addressing this because frankly all i'm hearing is public safety and i i like that you brought slides thank you i hear so much about random shots are these ever being reported to you or people just word of mouth saying it what do you do you have any idea about that i think a lot of times when they are reported we respond and we found shell casings and different different things and and it's hard sometimes though too because you know there could there could be also you know sound carries and we and a lot of times if we get a report we're not sure where it's coming from but i know i think we some of these are being reported to us so i don't know of  i did not bring any statistics or look at look at that where we're at right now so i can't really answer that accurately but my sense is we do see we do definitely see that i am hearing that almost on a daily basis actually you know at one point towards one an awards to our ward one and two had a cops and council and somehow that dropped did you find or do you think that helps the relationships or this was a helpful for your time to do that is that something we should look at initiating again i think any chance we get to get out in the community is a good thing so yeah i don't know why that stopped either i don't i don't know what happened with that but yeah anytime we can get out in the community and i know when we have our cad agents come to some of the ward meetings i mean they're they're very informative and type business cards for people to put on their refrigerator with the non emergency number i even sometimes have a hard time recalling it very quickly maybe the wards could pass those out to give to people to have so that you know they could feel comfortable calling you easier with i that's sure that that is definitely you can look into i don't know maybe try it unfortunately we live in a society right now where people are pretty divided and the national rhetoric comes down to this level and it frankly it makes your job harder thank you for what you're doing i know you're under the gun i know you've been under the microscope and i appreciate your work thank you thank you anecdotally it seems to me that a lot of the drive by shootings and other violent crimes occurring near homes that i get frequent we have a nuisance a nuisance home ordinance now do you think that will help in any way alleviate some of the crimes like the hotel motel nuisance legislation those hope to do that's a good question counselor i i think it'll help we put some teeth into that and i know we're gonna be coming back to council later this year where we've added some things where we're being called repeatedly  these homes we can consider them a nuisance so i think it's going to help you know it's just what the final version of that nuisance ordinance looks like is gonna will really tell that but we did add some of that and then that presentation we talked about  will be something that works when your officers come to our ward one meetings our community becomes quite engaged and i think it's a great help to have them there explaining  about prevention and enforcement and just being on the lookout for these kind of things so we appreciate them giving up their saturday mornings to come and discuss the situation with their neighbors and thanks again appreciate the other example that was off of colfax but i noticed it was still in ward two so i'm feeling a little picked on tonight but on a serious note i need to know the nuisance ordinance i think if we have some teeth and it may help support some of those because i think some of the crimes that have been reported around colfax are those absentee or homes that are dilapidated and we the homeless go in there we have the thefts in there we have multiple instances on that so i'd really like to see some sort of relationship with that also too when you have reports of crime if i if there are five calls coming in saying there's an attack on colfax and sheridan does that get reported five times or do you condense that into one call for service generally i believe that's just one call for service in mine is that correct i think i think it's generally just it's just what would be considered one it would be related to that call so it wouldn't say we wouldn't have i think if that were the case like like for example i seventy that truck crash we've probably had over a hundred calls it's only one it's only one incident so i would have to look into that though but i don't believe that there they they add just say the aggregate those okay because i think sometimes it's kind of hard just just concerned because you can have somebody calling saying i see a suspicious person in front of a house on tenth end and then somebody else calls and says you know four blocks later i see a suspicious person and sometimes it's hard to see if it's the same suspicious person the hotel motel ordinance when it was enacted how long do you think we'll need to look at that before we see if there's an impact to the crime rate at least a year because that's what we said we were gonna go a year and then after that then we're gonna start some of the probationary sort of functions were you know requiring different business practices lighting things like that so i would say at least at least a year before we see any results of that and that was to be fair to the businesses to because we didn't want to just pass that right away and then hold say okay you have a week to comply it wasn't fair to them and our cat team has been working with them quite a bit so okay so hopefully we will see some benefits from that i think we already have and then just on a personal note because i know some people have questions as you know and i'm gonna get the name wrong j station plaza that is a very active center now a lot more of activity with folks is there any way that we can get information to see if that activity has decreased the reported crimes right around there um i can we can look into it yeah that's with our crime analyst she can look at the man do some work on that and can find out okay i'd appreciate that very much thank you as fr and and thanks chief mackowski appreciate all that you guys do i certainly do i wanted to ask a question about the online crime stats number one i think that's great that we have that there you can certainly monitor that but the key question i have is does the online reporting also feed into that for the non emergency so if somebody goes on and reports a property crime maybe their car was unlocked but merchandise or things were taken does that show up in that  lexisnexis reporting or do we not know if if that aggregates from the online reporting i believe it does but i'll defer yeah it does sorry twenty because we've been really actively encouraging the community to report that it helps you guys understand where pockets of crimer are happening it helps you with resourcing and so i really want to just make sure the community knows that the online reporting if it's not if it's really more for insurance still make sure that you do that report it's really beneficial for our police department to accurately place the resources and the other thing i was hoping that you could do is you've mentioned the cat team twice but there's gonna be folks who don't know what the cat team is and also make sure that maybe we talk for a couple minutes just about the navigators that are built into the two thousand and twenty budget and what you're expecting that may be how will benefit from adding those navigators to to the police force sure the  cat team or community action team was formed a couple years ago and we're expanding that in this budget cycle we're adding another sergeant we did have two mental health caseworker lost one of them so we're in the process of working with them to hire another and then we're also as you mentioned the homeless navigators the community action team is basically our community policing team so there's primary goals are to address homelessness and and mental health cases that we're seeing a significant increase in that's why we have the jefferson center employees there the homeless now gators we're requesting to and hopefully the the plan for them is to be a resource so when we contact somebody who's homeless and looking for resources our homeless navigators will know the system and know where they can send them whether it's the family tree the action center whether it's jeff co human services those type of things so coordinate a response and it's a much better use of resources than having a sworn police agent to do all of that those activities and i know our city managers really been big with the homeless work so i missing anything on the navigators nice job chief the only thing i would add is the navigator program will include a really good coordination with all of the services and resources within the county so we will be working closely with the county although the navigators will be employed by the city of lakewood each city has committed to employing their own navigators they will work also as a team with the county so we can take advantage of resources that are countywide that's the only thing you didn't mention that was the only thing well i wanted to thank you because i think that's important because it's a regional issue and when one municipality makes a legislative change that can just push folks from one place to the other and i think that we're taking a really good approach to working with the area with jeffco and working with the others just find solutions that actually solve problems rather than just moving them around so i really appreciate that and that's why i wanted you to explain that roybal thank you mayor chief great job it's it's fantastic to see your officers coming out and through our neighborhoods and doing some great work one of the things that i wanted to bring out is the police night out you guys do a fantastic job the other thing that i wanted to talk about in our community is is allowing our community to take responsibility for our community now one of the positive things that we looked at and i'd like your help honest if it's possible to go ahead and do a pr campaign on neighborhood watch i'd like to see more on that if you would please send us all on council the forms the basic information the background on it and maybe we can take it to our ward meetings and pass it through there so we can help you help ourselves so if there's any numbers that we need to call for non emergency emergency or whatever you guys have and we can put that in a some kind of form and then hand it to our people i think that would definitely help us in the community we have a lot of brand new residents coming through our neighborhoods and i know i started neighborhood watch about eight ten years ago well in our neighborhood everybody watches out for everybody but we have new neighbors coming in throughout the area so that's the reason why i was asking and if it would be possible if we can go ahead and and continue and maybe ask again about neighborhood watch and we can push it absolutely division chief lower that falls under his his  support services division and he's nodding over there and he's got it taken care of so well that would be great thank you c'n on that is good  thank you chief first like others up here i just really want to thank you and all of the police force for the incredible work you do and your bravery day in and day out for our community and i also really want to thank you for your response for jefferson county public schools and there's been a number of incidents that our police department really stepped in and helped and i get a lot of feedback from parents in the community that they're just very thankful and i'm of course i'm phil that way as well and also wanted to thank chief lor who helped us with neighborhood issue we got to there was a little while we were talking to each other a couple times a weeks oh i'm glad that's over with i really appreciate that a couple of questions for you i one of the things that i hear the most about is concern about  we have a regional effort and you discussed it a little bit could you just for the benefit of the community talk a little bit more about that effort and how its successes or how it's going  well we don't net well we have a motor vehicle theft task force and so that doesn't necessarily address the car break ins the car break ins are probably one of the most prevalent crimes throughout the metropolitan area and a lot of times you see matt apartment complexes shopping centers areas like that because that's where you have the most cars they we don't tend to find them in our neighborhoods generally in the residential neighborhoods it's more apartment complexes and and areas like and shopping malls those types of things but but backing up a little bit is so i don't know if you want to talk about car break ins that for me personally that's just really a frustrating situation because a lot of times car break ins can be prevented it's just it's it's one of those crimes they're a game where you don't leave your wallet on the front on the front seat you lock your car door things like that and we've tried to do some education we've done some things in looking at lakewood where we've sent out articles you know we do as far as it's like the auto thefts to council passed an ordinance that doesn't allow for for vehicles to run in the street unattended and we have a lot of stolen vehicles especially in the winter months when people will go out to warm them up and then the next thing you know your car's gone so that we have an ordinance against that and we do a lot of enforcement we try to do a lot of education with our auto theft task force  you know our our auto theft task force we have have a commander sergeant detective and other employees assigned to that and they've been really going after a lot of sort of the big bigger rings where cars are stolen and then they're either taking the chop shops and stripped and things like that so you know one one kind of success story we just had and the city manager gave some of our detectives an award last week to a foreign car company and i won't say who had  a semi full of their test vehicles and it was parked in a lot and that worth millions of dollars and it was stolen and we recovered the entire semi with i believe was probably six or eight vehicles that this  car company estimated was again in the millions of dollars because they were they were prototypes you know so so we're doing a lot of things like that with our auto theft task force where they're they're taken down these big chop shops that  strip cars and and send them to different areas and things like that so just the the day to day stuff though that week that's generally in house with the police department with us i don't know if that answers your question yes thank you  and then on a similar note you know you mentioned about the car break ins and just making sure that we lock our cars i wanted to know about burglaries if there's other things that you recommend in terms of prevention in homes and also i get questions about if the you know those home security systems to those actually help people prevent you know prevent crimes at  home you know lock your doors that's probably the easiest thing to do you know secure your home lock your doors cut your shrubs so you're not they're not blocking the windows where they  to make sure but as far as home security systems you know that those are sold by private companies we we have a verified alarm policy in lakewood so we generally  there has to be other than just just one alarm it has to be some other sort of indication that there there's a situation with those for us to respond years ago this was changed under chief burns when he was here because we were spending so much last question is just about light rail and crime prevention on light rail because you told us a little bit more about what kind of crime prevention is happening for the light rail sure rtd has has their own security force and they they generally patrol the light rail and light rail stations we also work extra duty we're contracted with rtd where we have plainclothes and uniformed agents that ride the trains don a daily basis we're on those trains not we don't generally we're not able to cover the entire time the trains are running but we cover a significant portion of that so we patrol the lots and mark vehicles and again we're on the trains as well in an undercover capacity and they also have incredible security cameras and footage so we're able to communicate with rtd they're their headquarters whenever there's a situation they can call us and we respond pretty effectively great thank you and thank you so much for your time and presentation i had a lot more questions going into the night just because you know we are hearing things about crime rates and stuff like that it's really helpful to have the facts in front of us so i appreciate that and i also want to echo you know we've made a couple of policy changes over the last year that hopefully you know we'll see some results from but certainly any changes that could be made moving for word we always i think that is one thing you would find all of us support supporting so thank you for everything you just to let us know you know what you need from us to be successful and you know achieving and accomplishing the goals for the department i was at a meeting a few months ago with chief poisson and i was really impressed by some of the level of analysis they were doing they had the entire city of denver mapped out with by census block and they were talking about how many trees were in each census block because there was a correlation between the amount of trees and the number of crimes and i thought that was a i thought that was you know informative from a public policy perspective because if that's those are the kind of things that you know we could use or need to know whenever we're thinking about our development policies or all those kind of things because i think those are obviously this could be useful and how we make public policy so any type of those type of analyses that could be helpful you know please please let us know also just want to mention as far as public information obviously any type of campaigns or things that we could do to you know help be more proactive  to you know get citizens on board on what the goals are what our plans are to prevent crime you know please let us know i know fireworks for example this fourth of july was a hot topic and i think a lot of people want to see more you know public information campaigns to talk about how fireworks are illegal or that type of thing to help reduce you know hopefully help produce people you know doing that and produce calls to service and that sort of thing so you know any of those type of campaigns where we could be helpful and funding that you know please let us know i think i think counsel would agree that could be what would like to support you in that in any way we can and also i don't know if you know we too small of a city but obviously there are other resources out there and things that maybe we don't have that some cities do like shotspotter or that kind of thing so if there are any type of those equipment needs that perhaps we should be taking a look at you know i'd be a huge proponent of helping you guys get those resources and i guess the last thing thing this came up just because councilor code when mentioned it but things like home alarms you know if that is something that you know you were going to a lot of different alarm  homes because of home alarms and there's not a revenue stream i know other cities have done things like you know ahead of license or requirements for those type of things just to sort of help you  know help the police department have the resources necessary to look at those type of things so i just wanted to reiterate what's already been said but just know i'm i'm a huge supporter and i i know i sat down with you last year and let you know that i'd be  to support the department any way i can so thanks thank you great and chief one one other area we didn't really cover and it is important i think because we've also seen increased issues with this  its traffic speeding and i know our lakewood advisory commission is looking at kind of educational things i just saw a presentation when they were trying to map out at denver regional council of government twenty years ago one of their stated goals was to see a reduction in traffic fatalities and of all the metrics they were putting together that's one that they just is still not going down and i know in denver they're looking at lowering the speeds on residential streets but the same time people just aren't even following the speed limit i don't know what that does and you have important things to do right i mean or you know there's crime out there so i don't know how active we can be with our traffic teams but i know you see it and and do you have any insight into that or what we do i know you know people know not to speed in morrison but we're certainly not fit we're certainly not morrison right we have a lot of other things going on we are we are seeing an increase in our our traffic fatalities and and again i think that's throughout the metro area we're not alone in that there are more people there's more aggressive driving there's a lot more distracted driving cell phones those kind of things and then there's there's probably better your your traffic pattern you know the better the traffic flows i guess there's a way to say that but then we are seeing that and i was just in a meeting with the state patrol the other day and they're seeing a talking to one of their majors in the metro area and they're seeing the exact same thing we are it's a lot of distracted driving and i know the state legislators looked at some different things you know hands free that type of thing but you know that there's more cars on the road you know and i wish i had a better answer but we are seeing significant increases in our injuries and fatalities and we've had a lot with motorcycles as well too you know and i think that just when there's more fiat cars on the road and motorcycles aren't as visible and we've had had some had some serious accidents there as well when i think you also see an uptick in regular neighborhoods and maybe that's correlated to driving apps or you know these things that help people get through neighborhoods when there's traffic but you know where kids used to go run and play now cars are screaming down the roads you know at three thousand and forty miles an hour and that's new for a lot of neighborhoods and you know i know we certainly just don't have the bandwidth to be out there every instance or put a speed bump in every neighborhood where this you miss johnson thank you i fail to just bring this up could you please talk a little bit about the crotch rockets on six avenue it seems like they're on the weekends they've become an issue as far as the noise i know that's not easy but just talk about how you deal with it and what you're seeing there yourself sure coun johnson well i i have not heard the complaints this past year that i have in the past about those so i that's the i mean i know they're out there and chief wrinkles have you  councillor i'll just say this past summer we did not receive complaints as we did in the summer of two thousand and eighteen where we actually had four to six traffic agents working overtime shifts on the weekends to address those issues we did not see that this summer so i'm not saying it doesn't it doesn't happen just it's not being reported to us and as you know when we did do this operation of two thousand and eighteen i'd say of the you know three or four motorcycles that did fly that that's driving with no headlights in excess of one hundred miles an hour and kills two people and unfortunately the other morning here in sixth avenue at sheridan where we had a young lady decided to walk into traffic on th avenue at rush hour and gets killed those things are tough to prevent and and i think unfortunately we've had that that high rate this year and hopefully we won't see it again next music and i one thing i we didn't mention we did two operations with  jefferson county state patrol all the municipalities that border have i seventy and we did wrote i think we wrote almost five hundred tickets and two operations and we did the entire county the sheriff deputized all of us and and we did you know we did a lot of enforcement and there's a lot of it was on our twitter our twitter page and but we had some i think the fastest speed we got was one hundred and twenty miles an hour coming down coming down i seventy but we we wrote almost five hundred tickets combined with i serve at a wheat rich golden lakewood jefferson county state patrol and morse and joined us for a portion of that as well so then we're gonna continue to do those when you write the tickets does it help stop it or what happens to them do they go back and do the same thing i mean how does that work that's a good question i we we hope it stops them we hope it hurts their wallets enough that they'll think twice before i drive at but it's it's a good reminder that we're out there and it slows and whether we write somebody a ticket or not other people see us out there and hopefully that changes their driving patterns a little bit you know not it won't change it forever but hopefully it helps a little bit thank you so you're deputized i well actually the sheriff didn't deputize me i didn't want to do that so but well thank thank you all very much and i know this was really important for the community to to have this opportunity to hear from all of you and we certainly appreciate what you do day in and day out and we're very proud of the lakewood police department so well thank you mayor and council this is the first time in my career i think that we've ever talked about crime statistics in front of city council so i apologize if we're missing some things or didn't cover some things this is kind of a unique unique presentation i would just close by saying you we have a lot of dedicated men and women at the lakewood police department they really care about this community and serve this community and we're not perfect and we do have crime in lakewood i you know i wish we didn't but we are were almost one hundred and sixty zero people we're in a big metropolitan area and so we do have some issues and you know i can just tell you the dedicated men and women we try to address those so we're doing the best we can and again we're not perfect but but we're out there working hard for you thank you miss hudson did you yes thank you i just wanted to summarize a few things that we'll follow up on one is we'll work our communication staff will work with the police staff to start promoting the neighborhood watch program we will also promote the non emergency contact information and make that more prominent so people know how to contact the police in a non emergency way we're also going to somehow really reinforce the message that people need to report crimes to the police department so we'll make sure that that's also a more prominent message i think it's also important that we again reinforce some prevention tips as counselor do google talked about what people can do themselves to help prevent crime on their own property and finally we'll continue to promote safety messages as it relates to upcoming events et c like the fireworks during the fourth of july season so we will work with the police department and make sure that we are sending this message along all these messages thank you thank you so we now have an opportunity for public input which is different than public comment public input is geared towards the presentation that you just saw in any questions that the community might have it's three minute time limit nobody has signed up but i want to just get this out because we have another opportunity when folks have signed up at three minutes this little box here has a timer on into that two and a half it'll go yellow when your time's up it'll be red so it's been  i am uniquely qualified to talk on this of being on west colfax when i have the pawn shop we were in undesirable business and i didn't see many city council people coming in the police officers the same thing in aurora where i have my other shop we have we have a par where the officers actually come in and they walk it walk the colfax so they need all the business owners and we get to wet on colfax to get to know everybody with being in because colfax is not like you said it's not the most desirable place to be but it's a fun street it is i think we need to make more of an effort to get the business owners whether it's a pawn shops whether it's motel owners whether it's a little mexican restaurants all the people are should have a some get to know each other because even now that i've turned it into the art hub and got out of the pawnshop business out here it's really it showed me so many i see a lot of you people at the hub they count you guys come in and i love it and i get to know you and i get to be and i'll say i have several friends of you guys up here on the up here and it's just just a great thing to see that because now i'm more of a desirable business versus a pawn shop but i think all the businesses along colfax should have some get even whether it's just not even one on one but at least get to know several of the officers i know with atf the atf sends out agents to all the pawn shops and i'd know several of them and we work closely with them same thing we were in denver we got really close and it's hard i know because roar is changing too we used to have a the pawn details there's a police part of each each police if it has a pawn detail we used to be able that they would come in and pick up the tickets once a week and we would get to know each other nowadays it's all sent through the computers so we lose that connection and that's really a hard thing is we need to build back up that connection between the business owners and the police and the city council everybody sorry thank you thank you anybody else all right thank you again and we will move on to mayor good evening council and all i'm not going to make three minutes i also won't be thirty so i'll try to keep this fairly brief because there's not a lot of new information here but i want to spend just a few minutes to set some context for those who maybe aren't up to speed on where you all have been because you spend a lot of lot of time on this topic and it's a little different from what you've just heard but it still relates to public safety safety of property and safety of people as they deal with flooding this is an informational update there's no city council action that i'm asking for this evening but i do want to bring up to date on the north dry gulch project and i'll talk a little bit about where we are what we've done in response to your direction you may remember that last time you discussed this topic the main question really was what form would the improvements take would there be more open channel would there be all pipes underground would there be some combination and that's that's what i want to refresh people's memory up but some background may be helpful first so that there's a little bit of a broader picture the north dry gulch floodplain really is a significant area in north lakewood it's generally within about a block of colfax from doverton to newland street it starts near the whitlock recreation center on the north side of colfax at dover goes generally east eventually crosses colfax and gets to the existing storm water detention bas n at newland street that basin is behind the fire station that's at th and lamar there's some more floodplain on downstream with the piece we're talking about tonight is really dover to newland and the flood plain is  statistical statistically created thing it's just area it's a space on the map it's a geography that is the area that would flood in a storm that has a one percent probability of b occurring or being exceeded in any particular year that then of course has effects on properties it has effects on individual properties because of flooding it has effects also on the ability to reinvest in properties there are restrictions on what can be done within a floodplain because we don't want to allow things to happen that make the risk of damage even greater or divert flooding to other properties that have less today than they might if certain changes were made to some properties this portion of the north dry gulch floodplain affects a lot of properties about a hundred and fifty different properties about one hundred and thirty buildings about thirty six or so of those are residential buildings and twenty three street cross things get flooded within this flood plain as well and it's really wide in some areas some flood plains are fairly narrow this is a wide one because the facilities are really under sized in some areas some places it's three hundred feet wide so that can be contracted quite a bit with the improvements that you all are pursuing it's a long standing issue as many of you know anyone who has property in that area knows that they've probably experienced or seen someone one of their neighbors experienced the flooding that's occurred and it's also a current problem this summer we had properties including mister pasternak's that suffered from some of the flooding that occurred just this year and those one hundred year storms so it doesn't take a hundred year storm for these areas to flood there are other areas that will flood in storms but this is a good measure of how much flooding can occur as i mentioned the city council has spent a fair amount of time looking at this question the most recent discussion was lengthy and covered several areas to look pretty comprehensively at this question of open channel or piped in culverts as a way to deal with the the flooding and to contract that floodplain and control the water the council looked at things like well what's the most effective way to do it and what are the comparisons and effectiveness what are the property impacts with different approaches what would the cost be what kind of maintenance would it take in the long term  there was some discussion about green space and paths and habitat opportunities and of course the existing community plans and none of those things it didn't all fall one way or the other which is one of the reasons that the city council i think gave us the charge to go back and talk to those property owners who would be most directly affected by construction of the improvements regardless of what approach was used thirty six property owners were contacted again those are the thirty or i'm sorry sorry thirty seven who had property have property that would be directly affected by the construction thirty three said yeah let's talk we'll keep working on the others and all of the ones we talked to one hundred percent and said yes we've got to do something to this not a big surprise there but they also all one hundred percent supported using pipes and culverts as the solution in that that reach that i mentioned oh i should i should probably mention a couple of things that are a little bit different there's an existing open channel from wodsworth to teller street it's between walmart and colfax that's not proposed to be changed it will remain it already contains the hundred year flood volumes so it's controlled through that area so the areas we're talking about for adding pipes and culverts are from wodsworth upstream to dover up towards the w recreation center and then from the downstream end of that open channel which is teller street on down to newland street both ends of that secondly i should i should mention that that one of the main differences distinctions here's what what it's going to look like out there after the fact with open channels you can imagine that same channel in front of walmart being extended it takes a lot of space with the culverts and pipes the surface can be restored almost to the kind of condition it is today there will be more storm inlets to get water into the system that sort of thing but generally the land will be able to be used for other purposes someday you'll have to be dug up to replace the pipes but that's decades away so there is the ability to reuse that land for other things whether it's existing uses or perhaps a property owner won't want to change those uses over time even with that solution though this will be a very disruptive project this is going to be a very large construction project probably the largest public investment in infrastructure the city has ever taken on this the the physical features that we're talking about are pipes that are as big as five or six feet in diameter on the upstream in the smaller end up near the whitlock recreation center on the downstream end near newland these things may be twelve or fifteen feet wide so it's gonna be a very big hole in the ground it's going to be moving utilities out of the way so that those things can be put in place material has to be brought in and taken out and so it's gonna be a very disruptive project however when it's over with the pipes underground but generally people won't notice except that the flooding will be reduced which will be a good good thing let me turn to financing just for a  minute the current estimate is about thirty five to forty million dollars for all of this project from upstream of newland street and i should explain that includes more than just that narrow corridor that i described the floodplain itself we have to get all the water into the system also so there are several ancillary or secondary systems not small but secondary that are used to manage the water to get it into the big system three good examples include starting at the north on dover and then west on xx to about garland street these are approximate at this point we're kind of in the conceptual stage a second one will start near the lock center go west on colfax including some work up by garrison and then the third one's farther east and it will probably start at about th and vance and go downstream and connect into the larger system down near pier street those are not small storm sewer projects for the community but they're necessary to make this larger project  actually complete and effective so that's included of course in the in the in the cost estimate i'm standing here today telling you thirty five to forty million knowing that someday somebody's gonna say oh it costs more than that frankly working for pretty conceptual information we also know that construction costs are escalating faster than the consumer price index is and we don't know how long that'll go on and this is a multi year very large project we'll learn a lot about utilities that have to be moved those sorts of things so won't surprise me if the number is larger but today and two thousand and nineteen dollars that's a that's a reasonable estimate of what this projects going to cost we're proceeding with the design of all those features and and i guess one other thing that i want to talk about just  o i'm not really here to try to scare anybody but i want people to understand the scale of this project you may remember the wodsworth widening project that happened over recent years from north of sixth avenue near highland drive on up to about th avenue that construction was about eight tenths of a mile long now it was a different kind of project it was a road widening but the the amount of pipe that will have to be put in the ground for this project is about a mile and a quarter so eight tenths of a mile was the wodsworth project mile and a quarter this project and that's not counting the the open channel at walmart so this is a very large endeavor lots of great benefits but it's a large endeavor today we have the good fortune of having some money in the bank there's about seven point six million dollars in the bank already earmarked for this project and that's joint money contributed by the city's stormwater management utility and the mile high flood district which may be a new term to some who are used to hearing the urban drainage and flood control district as the  term which which this is the same group doing the same kinds of things with the same money but they've rebranded and they're now known as the mile high flood districts so the mile high flood district and the city's stormwater management utility have been putting money in the bank it's actually for this purpose that funding will get us through the design process it'll probably get utility design work done and and perhaps the utilities all relocated or a good portion of them there are some land acquisitions that's necessary that should be able to be done with those funds as well but it but that leaves another thirty million dollars plus or minus to get the construction completed and as you of all have pointed out we don't want to wait the number of years it would take to do that necessarily on a cash basis so our plan is to come back and talk to you about possible financing options at the time that the current money is almost used up not quite because we don't want to put a gap in the process but there are some reasons to postpone the actual financing discussion until later one of those is that we've got money in the bank and we don't need to accrue interest costs during this interim period until you spend down some of that existing money the second is that some of the borrowing techniques actually have restrictions and require that the money be spent in a relatively short amount of time so we don't want to put at risk those borrowings or penalties by borrowing the money too soon and not being able to get it spent within those requirements a third one is the the financial market will be a little bit different at that point so going into much detail right now would really helpful but there are multiple financing tools that could be used the storm water utility could sell revenue bonds and those would be paid off by the storm water utility the just a bank or some other financial institution might loan the money or time the i guess the other thing i should mention about the financing is that the mile high flood district will not commit its money to debt service we may be able to use it but they won't commit it so whatever debt service has to be guaranteed it will have to be guaranteed by the storm  and that may factor into the things as well we're also learning a little bit more about the storm water utility you made me remember that a year ago you authorized purchase of a closed circuit television van and we're beginning that process of  inventory the condition of the entire storm water system we've maintained structures like inlets and manholes but the pipes in between we have been able to really do a great job on understanding we're doing that more that will help us understand how much money we need for maintenance and that should probably be at least some consideration and figuring out how best to finance the construction of this project that concludes my comments happy to listen to public comment and then respond to any questions thank just before before you go because i think maybe some of the public comment may be part of this the goal is especially on this the effective areas is to go underground yes which would eliminate takings but there would potentially have to be some purchases of some properties and you've been able to reach out to all but three property owners yes and and you're right it'll reduce the the amount of land acquisition considerably there will be fewer owners that there's any acquisition some of those acquisitions will become permanent easements so that we can go underground and they can still use the surface as opposed to fee purchase of a corridor for the open channel all of those kinds of changes okay yeah great so we'll go to public input then and then we can come back and  be questions for counsel or for mister hutchison again three minutes and this is your opportunity to ask any questions like we have up here and barbara you're up first okay and we did have a good meeting for some of the arts folks we had a good meeting with the arts collective last week as well to talk about this situation going forward i'm sorry it's okay you were well representative well represented forgive me net natalie okay okay  cool thank you for coming pat and then i have jeff and then scott good evening hi i'm pat fear with bret's interiors and i just wanted to thank the entire council and the people that worked on this project for listening to us and agreeing to go underground it really relieves us and you know helps our business out a huge amount and we just want thank you thank you jeff come on down then scott and then i have judy and my tenants and they have been since they purchased the business from me aggressively wanting me to invest in that property and that just urged the council to move that along before i move possibly lose a tenant it's as you know i've sat and listened to the crime and the homeless and the west colfax dilemmas and strongly believed that nice looking upkept properties will help deter some of that problems are there we've actively been waiting to invest in that piece of property because if i know it doesn't look that great so i just want to say thanks for moving along and anything you can help us to do to get the construction on its way that'd be great thank you thank you scott i just wanted to say thank you also for listening to all the business owners and taking a look at both sides and i understand both ways we're gonna be group we're gonna be a benefit for lakewood i'm really excited that it is an underground by being it's going to be great for the property owners that have their the property on colfax and i'd like to personally invite all of you to the next first friday to come down and come to see the whole art community but especially coming with the pasternak's art hub we are we have four really great galleries in there and they would love to see you guys all of you guys so come on down and see us and i'm sure i'll probably see a lot of you guys at the riot which is this week judy you're gonna send rob down okay thank  you you guys are probably getting sick of seeing me and that's the point can we just can we just vote on the same underground and get this thing going i want to thank a few city council members coming to my store and you know it's different when when you guys are in my store and we're looking at the employees and we're looking at how busy our store is and we're please but if we could just get this thing done we're kind of stuck because we can't do anything to the our buildings because we don't know where this is going so i think once it gets voted we can put more money into the buildings and that whole area will  thank you all for getting us at least this far of saying underground but really what i came down here for is to hear yes it is going underground and how long is it really going to take us to get that far i've had some problems in my family with health and it's quite a jolt to have that place not knowing where i'm going to be on income on property so as soon as you could say yes i'd be happy so thank you very much  is there any actual plans coming out and is there any ideas for our starting downstream or restarting upstream you're not gonna believe this i actually went over i've been doing some snooping about the ditch and i'll tell you what vince casteel is a gym he is so involved and he's he's so caring about the people that are along i did he is a champion for this city anybody's had to deal with him it loves him so keep him around he's a good one okay oh one other thing about bicycle i'll show you the video right anybody else okay hutchison we had a couple of questions and one had to do with the plan where to start and as far as when you'll start to develop design work the design work will continue we've got a conceptual design at this point as i said earlier but we've got a long ways to go from there to actual construction documents that can be bid and utilities moved in that sort of thing so that'll take some time we will construction will start  the downstream end if we start on the upstream end it tends to cause problems below because it changes the the pattern that gets the water there because that storm water detention basin exists at newland that can be the downstream end because it will  attenuate the flows as it goes further further south and east so the first it's it's possible this construction will be phased and there there are two obvious phases one is from newland upstream to tell so from the walmart channel down to the open detention basin and then the other would be from wodsworth the upstream end of the walmart channel on to dover where the the recreation center is frankly we haven't tried to make a decision yet on whether that's two projects or four projects or one construction project will have to look at how what all the impacts are what the alternatives are how fast we can get things out the door whether contractor capacity is adequate for that kind of thing whether it makes sense to have two different contractors one a lot of those kinds of questions so but the first project will include the piece on the downstream end so that it actually functions appropriately the i think the second question had to do with whether or any plans were coming out or available all we have at this point are the kinds of things that all of those owners have already seen we will dive in now to the actual preparation of construction documents that will be bid for the construction of the improvements and the utility relocation and it'll take quite a while to do that but during that process we'll have interaction with property owners that are affected will will need to talk with owners about how can we best manage the construction near their site so they still can operate do they have a secondary access do they not have a secondary access if they don't how do we face things or provide a temporary secondary access so there will be a lot of interim kinds of discussions before we actually have completed documents to share really with anyone because they just won't completely exist until that time okay so it's fair to say that you're going forward with plans that will be under ground more than f absolutely accurate the project will be underground from dover to wodsworth and tell her to newland what's the other little ancillary secondary pieces that i mentioned so but so building off of that then flood control district did some finance mechanisms last election the voters basically debruce them and have created probably another twenty million i think in their construction maybe twenty million  maintenance now that's shared through seven six county seven counties will that help with any extra dollars that could be available for our project we will try to make it help the the district has an obligation to return to each county and that includes the municipalities within that county the the tax a proportional amount of the tax revenue that they receive from that county area that's over a period of time it's not every single year they hit that mark exactly because these projects take a long time some are big some there's a variety reasons that it can't be done on an annual basis but they do that so with in jefferson county all the cities plus the county will receive back it's proportional share of those revenues including the additional revenues that the voters allow the district to keep we will certainly be lobbying for as much of that as we can get there are other communities that are interested in it as well so we'll we don't really know how that'll turn out okay and then when you look at you know these types of projects you know we were talking about this kind of thirty five to forty million but if we're gonna be looking at doing a conversation about funding that could be bond driven or something along those lines would you want to talk about that in larger scale or trying to capture more of the flood issues that we have throughout the whole city i think that should be part of the conversation and i think we'll have that opportunity we'll know a lot more about the existing system and its its problem areas by then through this closed circuit tv effort that we've got underway now so we'll have a better understanding of how much of the storm water utilities revenue has to be utilized for that kind of work and i didn't really make it clear but all of this work for storm water is storm water utility money there's not general fund money there's not capital improvement fund money that's going into the stormwater facilities but there are a number of projects there's there's some under construction now one recently completed but there are a number of others that if we can stretch the if the revenue stream can support larger debt it would seem logical to look at taking on a bigger chunk yeah it's good to hear and i would just last one last comment that's for the folks who do own businesses you're probably aware but if not we did change our ordinance related to some of our fema regulations which will actually allow you to invest more dollars into your property if you're in the floodplain so that changes the base level of how much investment you can put in so if you're anxious to do some investment already and it won't be affected long run we can get you that information but council passed that a couple weeks ago mister abel copy on the other hand four years ago we were looking at an open ditch all the way and a number of property owners were concerned about that and concerned about how they would be able to use their properties to the full extent and now then counsel wisely asked for directions from the property owners themselves you've done it your team has done a great job i know it was a long hard involved effort but you talk to nearly everyone out there and and came to a great conclusion i just hope that we can get this thing underway so that the the problems of remedied sooner than later but i do recall being in kmart with the water flowing across from gold facts into the miss vincent yes this is more of a comment what award to kind of night crime and bad pipes we've got it all laughter what i want to do offer to folks out there is i know there's been some misinformation or a lot of questions and a lot of angst about a lot of this stuff so i just like to offer for jacob and myself if you have any questions please reach out to us and we'd be glad to answer thank you this is one of the best nights for me as a counselor four years ago this was brought to my attention and at that point i realized that the above ground remediation was what were looking at i started talking with businesses at that point and i've been talking with them ever since and i can't tell you how appreciative i am jay that the city reached out in may and june and talk to the businesses you heard what i've been hearing for years people wanted to be heard and they wanted underground we heard earlier with the crime regarding the businesses on colfax and economic development this will go a long way a long way to help with that i am absolutely thrilled i have been saying it was a moral imperative and i absolutely believe that that we got to take care of our businesses on colfax thank you thank you it is a win for all of you people this is awesome thank you  hutchinson i wanted to just kind of make sure that as you come back to us kind of with how maybe the financing needs to work on this i was at a community meeting on a different gulch that that more impacts residents and there's some serious bank erosion and i know it was talked about during that meeting that they're gonna be moving forward to solidify those plans a little bit more but there was also the discussion about well monies could be refocused in other areas and so that may take that timeline longer so i'd like to understand kind of the options we have because we certainly certainly want to take of our businesses they're the backbone of making sure that we produce good revenue but we also have other needs so if you can kind of make sure we know where some of that other gulch work stands how it might be either delayed or whom we may need to look at a bigger financing plan in order to make sure that some of those needs get dressed simultaneously or within a reasonable period so no ask for tonight but if you could kind of let us know at that point how other projects might be impacted that would be great thank you mayor thank you jay just wanted to say you know we appreciate all the work you and your team have done this is a very important project for the city but also certainly for our ward and obviously the businesses that live on the reside on colfax and up and down the corridor i also live right on one of the gulches that connects to this and every time it rains we get to see the water flowing over the streets so obviously for homeowners and the neighborhood's too i think they're obviously excited to see all the improvements that are happening in two creeks and in the surrounding neighborhoods so i appreciate that i also just want to thank all the neighbors and residents who have had the opportunity to sit down with and talk to about the projects i appreciate all of your input and the maps that you've shown me and your businesses i had the opportunity to to go see and check out your parking lots and all that stuff where some of this project is going to impact so thank you for your involvement and input so thanks it looks like that's all so it's a good night thank you very much nice work mister hutchison your team mister dores here too all right so we'll just go to reports and so much going on in the city but i just want to really give a shout out to miss hudson and your team for another incredible sider days it was packed and a lot of great fun and i think people really enjoyed it and it's to me like probably the biggest attendance we've had had to have been so nicely done appreciate that and then you heard mention of riot fest it'll be this saturday i think from to eight zero and it's going to be a prestige porsche and that will be the arch districts annual fundraiser there's probably tickets still available but i think they're gonna clear the showroom so there should be plenty of room for people to come and enjoy our wonderful art scene second to comments on the cider days and it was a real pleasure that to hear all of our volunteers who were so happy that there were so many people there and you know the the success of saturday's belongs in large measure to those folks that show up to help us with all of our activities like saturday's  we couldn't do it without wine thank you to everyone who came to our ward five meeting this past weekend including both of our candidates for mayor thank you for making that happen and we had a lively discussion and hopefully people got their questions answered but just really appreciate everybody's participation in this process to third the cider days comments it was a great time hayley and i enjoyed going out there and having some fun and and hanging out with some neighbors so thanks for everyone who made that possible i also just want to mention our ward meeting is cancelled for this wednesday because our venue is going as having some annual maintenance done so we had to reschedule for our november meeting on somewhat of short notice i apologize for that but just want to mention that th