so we will call this media transportation circulation committee to order start with roll call an agenda item number but i'm assuming it's about the bayside plan okay great okay consent calendar i guess we're not doing minutes from our last meeting do you think chair blackaby and committee members thank you for having me tonight i'm jessica grant city of santa barbara public works transportation division here to talk about the east side neighborhood  transportation management plan it's very excited to be a part of this planning effort that we've embarked on this year it was as you recall a coun direction back in september of two thousand and twelve to look for ways to address neighborhood livability by addressing pedestrian and traffic safety related issues so tonight will be presenting what the neighborhoods plan is all about and the purpose for the meeting also is to be making a recommendation to council in regard with respect to this plan and i was also at the neighborhood advisory council presenting this last night with the  to examine the funding strategies with them and so i'll be providing an update on that so this is not the first time that we're talking about this planning effort i have been to the transportation circulation committee back in november where we were just introducing this whole planning effort and how we were gonna do all th what their concerns were in the neighborhood i'm not going to go through it as on the slide i have bullets of what the various concern items were but those were the topics we talked about at that time so what's this plan all about a set you've been sent for review well it's a culmination where it talks about again the process of how we got here and then what are all the plan inputs and besides the listening workshop we also did a neighborhood serve a prime target audience was eastside families and hardcopy  went out to the junior high and high school level we also did an electronic version where we posted on various listservs from the cities and coast and the bicycle  coalition to solicit more feedback and basically what the traffic survey was reaffirmed what we heard and at the listening workshop and in this plan effort minute was supplementing what we've heard from the east side residents was an independent analysis on the traffic safety component that held briefly go over so basically it's all those three inputs and then there was approaches and strategies that i'll be focusing in detail tonight but they're all about and that again let's mix up the plan so part of the effort was gathering residents input and he and the other side of it is just looking strictly at the numbers what type of crashes have been happening in the neighborhood so when we do that we look for trends and patterns  which is same types of crashes repeating themselves over and over again any type of crash can happen just about anywhere and it doesn't necessarily indicate a problem it could be driver error random fluke type thing but if things start repeating themselves over and over it could be an indication that there's something going on at that intersection that we we should look at correcting the area as a whole we  didn't find a whole lot we didn't look at milpa specifically it's part of this effort because we did look at it quite thoroughly last year but within the neighborhood itself there really weren't a lot of patterns the only two locations that we data that seemed to stand out from the rest of the neighborhood was at carpinteria and alesis and carpentry and voluntario both of these intersections interestingly are the only two locations that have had bicycle and pedestrian crashes more than one there there were a few other individual instances sprinkled around the neighborhood but these these two intersections  did did have repeated events happening there so they are two locations that just from a safety perspective we would like to address further in terms of how they compare to the rest of the city there they're not really that high compared to other intersections but it doesn't mean that we we shouldn't do anything there it's interesting to note that carpinteria and voluntario is not is already and always stopped that was installed i think in two thousand and one  in response to some crashes that were happening then and it it hasn't been completely effective to reduce the number of crashes especially bicycle and pedestrian involved so just in general that that's the two locations that just from a crash reduction standpoint we we'd like to do something  okay so that brings us back to the plan as as i discussed that there's three major sections to the eastside neighborhood transportation management plan which describes the process the plan inputs and then the plan where it goes into the strategies so there are six main strategies to this plan it's that came out from all the feedback from what we've heard from the residents and a lot of these strategies are not it's not just an engineering solution for it takes on different roles it could be an education so a strategy or tasks under that it could be engineering approaches or enforcement approaches so as we move through these strategies i'll be discussing the various tests that we've assigned to those and so the strategies are improved street lighting enhance walking experience reduce vehicular speeds add bicycle amenities increased outreach on rules of the road and improve so the first one that i'm going to talk about is to improve street lighting and that one from all the input from the surveys and the workshops improve and this map that i have up on the screen shows basically what the existing lighting is in the east side so all these yellow dots are city street lights and which are primarily make up the middle this and montecito corridors and then sprinkled throughout the rest of the eastside neighborhood are it's the orange reddish orange color those are the edison lights what's in green is what we've heard from the residents as priority lighting corridors so and green the the corridors primarily make up most of the neighborhood etc we tried to have further prioritize from here because just to see if we could get to a smaller target area i would say the more dominant area if we hadn't it's still the entire neighborhood but if we went to a phase lighting approach in the future it probably start closed south of franklin and adelante schools down towards the towards the freeway our report beat the the key areas so as far as what we're proposing to do now we'll continue to do repair lights as needed and also that there's a lot of vegetation currently along milpas that was sited that's blocking some of the existing streetlights and removing some of their effectiveness and and that's  schedule with the parks department to be trimmed this summer and then the the big the biggest thing what we need to do is do a comprehensive lighting study in design that's really the the next step to address the lighting issues that approximately a hundred and twenty thousand to do lighting study and design and then of course fighting and that that's the hardest part in terms of funding this is also  as we continue through the design we'd have to break it up into many phases to fund over time the next map and strategy that i have up on the screen is the enhanced walking experience east side residents this is the community that likes to walk facilities to enhance that is very important so access like having access ramps filling in missing sidewalk links continues to be  it's very well liked we've over the past decade have installed i forget what the have the exact number in the report approximately ninety access ramps and so if we have been a little by little  getting in ramps in the neighborhood there's still some extra ones the what we had that east side residents prioritized they had about twenty seven ramps most of the location co r would fall in voluntario so that's all the access ramps are the green color on this map and as far as for missing sidewalk missing sidewalk link that it's just talking with the residents that it's a one of the routes to school and residents have cited concerns especially crossing over the bridge at the narrow bridge at that location price for those missing sidewalk links is about one six million design survey design construction etc so another issue and this is probably the busiest map in the plan there's a lot going on so i'm gonna take a little bit more time on this one another thing that we heard from the residents was just and then come up uncomfortable  crossing at intersections exciting that either people are driving or that motorists are blowing through stop signs rolling through the stop signs or just a failure to yield to pedestrians and so there were several i think twenty six intersections cited of concern and fortunately we do have some in design to help with the crossing is also under design and i believe maybe one of the last tcc meetings or couple where the safe routes to school for cleveland project where we're doing an intersection reali ones out there that the president still has that translates to a funding need and what we'd probably recommend at those intersections to seek grant funding for is more pedestrian refuge islands it's great that the pedestrian refuge islands for the safe routes to school project is going to be installed within the next year and that will be a great pilot and test case for the neighborhood to see how  people are liking those improvement and we also have some access ramps that just recently went in and there's another round it's just outside of the neighborhood but right next to it that are scheduled for next year they're in the darker navy blue but between the high school and junior high well you'll be seeing this coming winter some access ramp installations right there a few of the streets  will be rotating over the next year and stationing it along all of those streets cited for concern in hopes that people will self enforce for the speed limit proposing summer to remove those and replace them with twenty five mile per hour signs in the school zone area and also that was passed out in the workshops and better available the east side residents or any city resident for that matter is to place reminders to slow down santa barbara signs in their yard as another way just for for cues for motorists to drive the speed speeding tickets but will continue to have targeted enforcement the police officers did observe what the ii said residents observed of rolling the stop signs and then i think there was one ticket for failure for a pedestrian as well so as this school year begins in late august will again have another targeted enforcement time with that we're not proposing any traffic calming measures at this time given the other strategies feel that want to see how some of the other treatments go and and it's something that we'll continue to revisit and the residents wanted to see improvements to the bike infrastructure their lanes mainly bicycle lanes and and we are just about to embark on a big update on our city's bicycle master plan that will be starting i think very shortly within the next couple months hope to have an rfp out and we'll be working on that process for the next year and so some of the discussion that we started with the east side residents will be continued in that master plan update we were some of the just do it items there's some of the shar the neighborhood have faded and and we will be repeating those this summer of one of the just do it items that when we were working on the zone six pavement maintenance update  chapala street from downtown and go all the way to haley and elise oaks so that's really exciting so that will be coming in soon but that only gets this half way that's from downtown to the east side so that was one of the residents they wanted to get to and from downtown so we got from downtown to the east side and as part of the bicycle master plan effort will be again looking at ways to get from the east side to downtown there we were fortunate with haley that it had enough right away with little disturbance the the other streets aren't as easy and  require anytime and what we're seeing in the neighborhood to is anytime that you can you can install bike lanes anywhere but then the you have to give up parking on street parking in and one thing that we've heard from the survey and workshops that on street parking is very important to this neighborhood so we had suggested to do bicycle lanes on m streets and i think the conversation to be continued it was kind of a from the approach workshop about a split people wanting to know a little bit more so will be revisiting that discussion  the other items that we talked about were the concept of bicycle priority corridors or bicycle boulevards where you don't get rid of any on street parking and you have sign and some engineering work to some of the intersections where you basically give priority to the bicyclists motorists are still allowed to drive on those streets but it's it wouldn't be appealing for a motorist to take that as a shortcut street something would slow the motorist down either by changing the direction of the stop signs or something else but they would still continue to drive but it would also be there would be cues to just expect more bicycle riders and so that concept was floated for a cacique street soledad street which runs next to eastside park in the schools and the franklin center and one of the things the next strategy was increased outreach on rules of the road the thing that we heard loud and clear is that there's you could better job and so and this is that's something that we have programmed in for next year is to develop a rules of the road like brochure and maybe one of the things during this outreach effort and it was a lot of fun to do it was called it was it was a pilot project and we called it eastside rides and it was a partnership that was formed with traffic solutions who puts on cycle mania every year and eastside rides became one of the cycle mania events and again it was besides traffic solutions it was in a partnership with the santa barbara bicycle coalition and coast and it ended up being a very successful event there was about fifty seven participants thirty seven of those were  kids and ranging of age probably from four to junior high age and and then twenty adults and it was all about rules of the road for cycling cycling and different learning different skills and and how you can be a better driver of your bicycle and we had a it was a bilingual present that we gave that the bicycle volition fantastic presentation and then we did some bicycle skills and then we went around the neighborhood for a little ride especially with kids it's really important because a lot of times your bicycle radius is only maybe two miles are you just getting to school or getting to the park and fun anime kids and adults comfortable writing in their neighborhood so because of the success for this is something that we want to continue and maybe do hold another eastside rides event in september and if it's well received again we want to continue maybe through other neighborhoods in the city so that's just one example of an outreach effort and the city will depend heavily on these partnerships to in the cars but do this and and it's just a message that keeps needing to be repeated next one is improve bus stops before i go in the details of this section i just i did want to pause for one moment because part of this when it comes to and she just wanted to take a minute just to say just something real quick or i can i'm sorry i don't remember okay exactly what i was supposed to save it that i can listen to the presentation right and then when it comes to a vote i just will to discuss in this section when we went out to the for the residents to seek input was well we first want to know is there any impediments getting to and from the bus stops that needed to be i some of that falls into the enhanced walking experience of access ramps missing sidewalk links etc and account of experience at the bus stops as well so the bus shelters at the bus stops continue to be very popular and it's a little bit hard to see on this map that i have up but in that the green squares are areas where we have bus shelters and the orange squares are once without shelters and we had asked the resident serves there any those were areas that the city and mtd or have already had on their radar and we already know that the we're dealing with some right away constraints at those locations but it's not to say that we can't do a bus shelters there it just means that our standard pre fabricated bus shelters that you see in our city wouldn't fit at that location so it would be a modified version of that  but when it comes to the next round of our cdbg grant cycles we could still move forward with applying for grants for that it just the bus shelters might be slightly more because of the modified design and another issue that we're still exploring was having some more trash cans available at the bus stops the the issue the conversation still needs to be continued but some of the trash pickup frequency and all of that but those are all things that the city and mtd and we can address so it'd be something to the to maybe putting in about ten more trash cans  at the bus stops so this slide is not meant to be read here but this is a reference you to page nineteen of the plan and that what i discussed during my presentation are all the tasks that we're proposing to do to under these strategies  everything in the black ink is what we can do already in our streets capital budget we're planning to they're just do it's we're planning to address of projects that are already  twenty it separates them out of tax funded by our task funded by the streets capital and then again the ones below that are the funding need so to get to the bottom line or that what's great is we were able to fund about i think there were twenty eight tasks identified between all of the six strategies eighteen of those were proposing to do in the next year or two and so that's it's really exciting that we're able to move forward on a decent chunk of this plan the items there's ten remaining items that are the funding need to the tune of sixteen to nineteen million dollar need so that's that's a lot of money and the the big chunk of that on that sixteen and eighteen million dollar need is ten million is first the lighting so we're discussing some of the funding strategies last night with the neighborhood advisory council and brandi did you want to pick it up from here or do you want me to okay so the recommendation last night at the advisory council and again this is just in draft because it just happened we had they haven't had adopted their minutes yet like to continue with the current process for cdbg funding and the neighborhood advisory council would like city council to consider designating money from the general fund towards these projects some of the projects they've highlighted of the sixteen and nineteen million dollar need was to if we had to do some immediate tasks it would be to fund the lighting do the lighting study in design and target the sidewalk infill areas access ramps and bus shelters and the trash cans so that's where they left it i can explain that more but i'll leave it to browning to was before this committee last fall to talk about our six year capital improvement program and and we have capital needs at far exceed the amount of money that we have available so we we have a funding gap in terms of doing our current maintenance needs let alone trying to build anything new so streets capital or measure a money and the unity that we get to go towards reach capital is limited in terms of what we can use those money for we recently applied for measure a grant funding through the santa barbara county association of governments and we were successful in getting four projects funded and one project partially funded and one of the project that dig it run it were the pedestrian refuge islands in the east side and the west side but the next cycle for measure a is in three years so it comes up every three years so that's not really something we can count on immediately the state of california just recently opened requests for projects for the federal safe route the school program and we took a look at it but when the when the federal government did the another continuing resolution for the map twenty one they put the safe throughout the school program into the  of money so caltrans is applying the highway safety improvement which is a sub regulations on the safe route to school which means you have to have a traffic safety issue which supported by collision data and so the intersections that we were looking at applying for safe route don't qualify because i dated they traffic collision data frank this little old too old it's outside the window that they would consider the state of california has not released the or the community development block grant funds and we apply for those money alongside of the nonprofit organizations in the in the city and the community development human services committee reviews all the application interviews all the applicants who makes recommendation to council and so going through that process there is no guarantee that we will receive funding via those monies so we have a significant funding gap in terms of being able to move forward with these projects so just one have it out there we're gonna have to have the same conversation with the city council because we know the residents want something done and we are taking care of quite a bit of things but our existing resources and the grants we've already receive but grant opportunities in the future it's going to be a few years before we're going to see additional grant opportunities outside the community development block grant monies as far as for the tcc what staff is recommending it is for the tcc to find the eastside neighborhood transportation management plan consistent with the  circulation element of our general plan and to recommend to council for adoption of this plan tonight and with that i conclude my presentation be happy to entertain any questions and we can take some questions from the committee and then there's i have three public comment slips so no comments yet just questions to clarify and then we'll move to public it's an ongoing process as you know we have more than eight hundred bus stops in the system and a great many of them need those kinds of improvements and we are making them as fast as we can within the budget that we have and based on priorities that capacity with the upcoming bike master plan i'm wondering if the design of those pedestrian median refuge islands would have an eye towards future compatibility with a bicycle boulevard  if you notice the location of the proposed meeting refuge islands they're not in locations where potential bike boulevards will be at this time yeah we're looking potentially there is just adding some red curve to improve visibility it is possibly a location where median refuge islands could go in the future but until we figure out just what a bike boulevard could look like in santa barbara we don't want to jump and install anything at those intersections just yet the bike boulevards intended to give a potential bicycle facility in terms of how a bicycle would navigate around them most of the streets in this neighborhood are take the lane i think there there aren't any bike lanes in the neighborhood now there could be potentially come out of the bike master plan but those those streets that were identified by the residents are different from those streets where we're going to be together help achieve the same goal the other question in terms of inter department communication i mentioned enforcement and i remember about a year ago or nine months ago and we got state data out that something like santa barbara count like the third most dangerous county for for bicyclists specifically or maybe bicyclists and pedestrians there was a bike sting operation by pd and i'm wondering if there have been conversations i know they've been conversations in the past with the police department about doing when there are bike enforcement because obviously those are very significant tickets if there's some type of future tie in with education kind of like traffic school like ucsb has like other communities have for enforcement educational component as well as alternatives to getting a ticket a three hundred dollars ticket or running a red light or stop sign versus community services i'm like that because it's  especially a lot of our bicyclists that's the only form of transportation that they have so we we want to be careful but we also want them to obey the traffic laws and education gonna be a key component of th returning that will pick up those conversations again and and ideally yet as far as for a targeted enforcement because we'll continue to do so roles of the road outreach and so we probably plan to time turned a certain  enforcement efforts associated with the educational efforts as well and and a lot of it we did here that are from the residents that some of them bicyclists they rather just take the ticket because they feel more comfortable riding their bike on the sidewalk they don't feel comfortable on the street so you know that pilot program that we did for the east side rise for the bicycling is to help lessen those those fears and how to feel comfortable riding your bike in the street and what and why that is safer but it's it's something that it will continue to take work and outreach to address and one last question again with enforcement what was the the reason that there were difficulties actually giving speeding tickets when there were those targeted police actions was something to do with like certain thresholds or well we last fall before we when we went to the city council to get direction on doing the neighborhood effort mister bailey went out and did a quick have any cars that exceeded the speed limit to a point where it was unsafe where they can give it speeding ticket that would be upheld by the court so from my law enforcement standpoint the cars warren had seen his feeling but that would justify him giving a speeding ticket that doesn't mean that the residents are wrong that cars are driving too fast he might be driving too fast for the comfort of a resident but from a law enforcement standpoint they weren't so so so even your slight speeding because of that percentile rule even though you know that's a good way of characterizing it and they didn't have any fight anybody going two miles an hour to speed limit you know at the time they were out there doing the enforcement and are most of the speed limits more like thirty you mentioned trying to reduce down in the school zone to twenty five or most of the school speed limits in the area thirty or what's like what's the median so we're just going to be taking the signs down the rest of the speed limits in the neighborhood they're predominantly twenty five there's a few that are undefined which is kind of a legal no ma thirty thank you other questions the outreach and rolls of road road mediocre and dealing with the cyclists is i would rate it as miserable or embarrassing or dangerous for all the above and  people look at them like why are you in a car that was a culture santa barbara on across the board everyone rode a bike it reached a threshold with influx from los angeles or wherever people moved from in the late s and certainly in the  where the population and the automobile traffic increased enough toward the people who had been cycling then felt unsafe cycling joined the motorists so now you have not just the influx of new population but you have the ex cyclists who now become motorists and i'd say sixty percent of my friends join that because they had children they felt unsafe by the late s and early s it was just not safe it's worse now santa barbara was up until the early s one that ten top rated cities in the country for cycling cycle friendly cities it's now not on the top fifty today it's not in the top one hundred contrary to what browning allen might find somewhere on the internet i've never found it and it's certainly not in the top hundred in any of the listing sites that i've looked for for many many searches so that's been in our tenure we've we've watched santa barbara degrade from the top ten to not even on the charts recycling safely now this plan is great and i support it for all the improvements aside from two factors reducing speed of motorists and i think i could speak for doctor mullen too she had to leave but we discussed this at length and she was also at the meetings and this plan is a little bit embarrassing because what it calls for is self enforcement for motorists people driving basically lethal weapons if you're a pedestrian or a bicyclist so they're on self enforcement because of legal technicalities or whatever the excuse is meanwhile not me or anybody i know but children young adults recent immigrants those are the people on the sidewalks those are people riding a bicycle on the sidewalk and they're on there because they're scared i'm not scared on the street i could take the roundabout milpas and clear it i'm not the least bit of prey that these people are and i'm here on their behalf because i'll ride anywhere it's not a problem excuse me so two hundred three hundred dollars ticket for somebody who has no other way to get around but a bicycle for riding on the sidewalk because we've driven them as the leaders of this city we've driven them off the streets onto the sidewalk and this plan  proposing is for increased enforcement of those cyclists yet self enforcement for the motorists and this is absurd this is contrary to all the objectives that the city has had working with the edc the fossil free by thirty three objective all these things are just thrown out cycling is what the city needs to increase just to get the back where we were in the late s early s we've got a goal we're not we're not trying to make improvements all these other things are really last probably because of the paint new not because the city isn't trying but because they use the wrong pain sharra's lost two to four weeks and then they're so faded they're not even visible to a car so any of the sherrill projects they get repainted every year or so but they're only good for maybe four weeks same with the new crosswalk intersection so there's a paint problem but more than anything there's this problem with the east side which is self enforcement for motorists and increased ticketing  and that's not that's not a good plan it's not a holistic plan to reduce automobile traffic which helps reduce speeding which helps the whole process if you can get people out of their cars onto bikes it helps with prime it helps it with the austrian safety it helps with bicycle safety it helps with congestion it helps with air quality there's nothing good that it doesn't do and everything bad that does happen when you crack down on cyclists it's good to educate them and i do i teach cycling to police officers we were afraid to ride on the street i mean i you know i i do these things and it's not is it this plan is not going the right way in terms of cycling or enforcement of  madam chair members of the committee it's a pleasure to be here i'm eva in bar i'm was coast and i've been very involved in the east side for the past three years or so so our east sidewalks project so much so that my husband suggests i just moved there so i feel quite at home there and i've had a the opportunity to watch this process here the traffic management process unfold close up i attended the two workshops and i watched public works and i was impressed i really have to give them credit you know they came out here and in the in the east side and they did those workshops and they listened to people actually they said a desti these tables with the people on their saturday mornings so it it was a huge amount of work i think that went into this and we appreciated we supported especially jessica grant i want to recognize she put an enormous amount of effort into this and as she found some creative approaches to kinda penetrate that cosmos that's the east side it's kind of a walled unto its own it's special and she was able to connect with residents just the ordinary people and they appreciated particularly i think that that she's a mom with young children they felt that connection so that was good that was really good the the plan here has a lot of good things it's a solid no nonsense practical approach we support it and we urge you to support it too we feel that maybe since this was going to be a phased project with near term midterm and long term approaches it should be reevaluated regularly and we would like to see some language to that effect included follow up evaluation with maybe timelines so we don't forget after one year after two years after three years we look at it again and we see houses working that we've done how how how is this coming and then we can go to maybe some of the more of long term things that are envisioned here but not really you know recommended for now and that could include some follow up on reducing traffic speeds and i to i had some of the thoughts that my fellow speaker had that maybe just self enforcement for motorists is not enough so we would maybe like to see a little bit more there in that department but let's see how this works what we're doing here it's it's great it's very solid and we support it thank you very much thank you the other public comments one concept just occurred to me as i was listening to various people the idea that there's enforcement for vehicles on the road and vehicles on the sidewalk how do you think everything's a vehicle right onto the code i don't i don't know why it would have to be exclusive or separate in any way shape or form if you're out there patrolling and enforcing one why aren't you looking at that the other i think we probably could use more police presence just in general enforcing various  traffic violations on the east side and you know might as well pay attention to everybody at the same time equally so i would just suggest that that's not a an either or situation i do like the idea of the community education as opposed that speaker slip retroactive lee please thank you any other speakers okay so we can back to the committee we can have more more questions and comments one i just have a question about if you have an idea how many tickets are given for people riding on the sidewalk i don't have a number but it's very few if any that are given you know when the police department did the enforcement on state street they took primarily looking at people who were not abiding by the traffic laws running red lights whether on the cross streets or on state street we're right in the wrong way on the street i like running kid i think the police officers use its aggression or not they're gonna stop a school age child for riding on the sidewalk versus riding the street especially depending upon the street but again the reason you don't see a lot in this document in terms of bicycling is because we're gonna do an update of the yeah we could ask the police department to come out and do enforcement and they'll spend some time out there doing enforcement they're going to come back right around the time school starts to do an enforcement when they were out here the last time they did enforcement for roughly two or three weeks in they'll go back again and do it do it again one of the things we have to remember even for car drives five miles and over the speed limit the driver can go to traffic court and the officer needs to say well the reason we gave them a ticket they exceeded efforts are made at the different schools to improve safety there there's been really great cooperation but not much funding for motorcycle policeman to do some enforcement at the schools and it's not speeding that is the issue as you say you know it's people talking on the cell phone and you know rolling stops and parking at the red  zone you know and dropping off their kids and impeding other traffic and all those kinds of things so to me those are the kinds of things that we need to focus on not i can see you know speeding is not think browning involved with all three of the neighborhood traffic management programs in the city and you know one of the the first ones eastside it took a long time from start to just to get from where we are now i don't know how long but it must have been a couple years from when they had the first workshops to actually when the plan went to city council and then the years afterwards by the time things were starting to be constructed and by the time that happened most of people that were involved at the beginning no longer even lived in the area and we all know what happened after that it was just a major neighborhood outcry about what what  is this being built in aren't in this neighborhood and i just want to commend the city for i mean september twelve september two thousand and twelve now to start with starting to work with the workshops and do the two workshops and actually come up with a plan i think is just remarkable to do it within nine months and we have projects that are actually being constructed or on the drawing boards right now that are in this plan so it's not like we're not gonna have anything happening from this plan if they're already in the works which i think is also remarkable now sure there's a lot of things in here that there's just not gonna be the money for right away but that happens with every plan i mean there's still areas on the east side there's still plans in the oak part that more things would like to be done but there's still not the money so i just want to commend the city and staff for and the residents for coming out and poured these workshops i mean i only went to the first one and i was very impressed with the the demographics and all the people that did show up to be involved in their community so i'm really you know sure there's things that we wish we could maybe tweak a little bit more but you know we don't have sixteen million dollars to get every done at once there's a lot of other neighborhoods that would like to have their plans completed too so i think this is a great start and i definitely can support this and  gray the process was able to attend the first workshop and see the process kind of from the sidelines from there and it's definitely been a great engagement of diverse you know groups within our community and i appreciate the city's efforts on this and look forward to this going to council and and as as we can make things happen happen obviously we have speed and motor vehicle issues that in general are perceived is not compatible with a residential neighborhood and i think that's a tricky part of of the eastside it is kind of a throughway for a few different neighborhoods for santa barbara and even though it's a residential neighborhood can take on now is it's a really good point i think there's not a lot of tools in the toolbox for bicycling right now and i think that's somewhat represented within this plan there's really not a lot aside from a focus of kind of core routes that were mentioned east side residents there's not a lot that this plan can seemingly take on right now for bicycling which is really too bad because there's you know it's been said there's a lot of people who walk on the east side and there's certainly a lot of people driving the east side and one thing that you can infer from the comments is people are intimidated from biking so there's this gap so again even though it's a residential neighborhood that's right next to all this employment and civic life people are too intimidated to bike and so it's hard for people who are too timid bike then make comments about what they want in terms of bike infrastructure because reality is there's no bike infrastructure on these side i mean basically there's zero however you know we can do what we can do one thing i'll mention really look forward to in the bike master plan a further elaboration on the bicycle boulevard discussion which is something that a lot of residents kind of alluded to but we don't even know the language of what a bicycle boulevard is i was actually at planning commission meeting for goleta last week and the cal poly group presented about a one er right this is not even a word in our language but this is you know work for a residential or shared street where vehicles are basically going less than fifteen miles an hour right again this is just not part of our lexicon we don't know about it and we have to add that tool to our toolbox because i think there are routes and certainly the city's work with sycamore creek and the new bridge for cacique and hopefully perhaps funding for a bridge to soledad as well and that junction could help have some quiet safely connected and lit  residential streets that can also serve you know bicyclists and pedestrians the other thing i'll say is you know funding is limited right but funding represents community priorities you know i think it's like did some rough back in the envelope calculations and what we're going to spend on and one something like three thousand eight hundred dollars per south coast resident right and we're talking about bike ped expenditures about five bucks a year so you know that's the reality that we live in right also a lot of stuff that we would want and i would say especially for reducing vehicle speeds and adding bicycle infrastructure and generally making it more livable pedestrian friendly environment our trade offs between convenien and speed and talking on our phone while we're driving and doing other things right and quality of life and on street parking is part of that right when these things are really crowded at some point the discussion is going to have to come up right do we want improve quality of life i'd love to park my car and i have a car and i park it on my street in front of my house all right but that's for convenience that's not for quality of life and hopefully as part of the bike master plan we can get into that and have a community discussion about that because otherwise in a compact urban environment we can't have it all thank you for your work on this and i really hope this part of future efforts that we can make the east side  look forward to getting into the bicycle master plan but i'm kind of wondering i know that council has sort of prioritized the east side recently and so i'm wondering if strong bicycle language and bicycle master plan is not going to be heated as well as whatever language is in this plan can you give me a sense of how that's going to go it's hard to say yeah how the city council would react to that but in terms of you know anything we do in terms of bicycling funding is also the issue you know so when we do update improvement projects then it gives us something that we can use to apply for grant funding so we know what the community needs are so you know the east side is this is a springboard to doing looking at bicycling in the bike master plan if we were trying to do more for bicycling in this document we would probably spend another year because we would have to do a lot more research and engaging the community and  other folks and i think there was a desire on the city council's part to get this plan done and get the plan done before the end of the fiscal year or early summer you know to council so we can address the concerns of the residents have expressed of a fresh perspective and a fresh way to to look at it i wasn't involved in the in the previous neighborhood transportation management plan but i know that it was this is an improvement i do  based on community response or the community response that i saw from the last one so this is great and i think moving forward in the city the next time we do one of these this is a really good template i'm sure there are things you would improve or do differently but um it's a really good good way and it makes it easy to look at what we can do now and what we need to figure out next i'm also really excited that the bicycle master plan update is finally gonna happen um it's so overdue and i know that it's something that once you once you have that updated plan much with the pedestrian master plan you know you're referring to that every time you're dealing with something any type of improvement or bicycle improvement or an area where there's bicycle facility or not that that informs everything that the that the division does so i think that's it's really exciting and important we look forward to that process um which i'm sure will have wonderful outreach like this one um the next thing is  and you know hearing what the neighborhood advisory council had to say about requesting that the city council look for general fund monies for this in addition to obviously using what we have in the you know already programmed for for capital you know i don't know all the ins and outs of the city budget but i know that things are looking better there are also a lot of  different departments and things waiting for it to get better to grab the first batch of money to to use it for whatever project i don't think it's a terrible idea to be able to  have the council contemplate that maybe for you know just a piece obviously they're not gonna say okay here's nineteen million dollars like just get it all done all at once but i if they're you know if there were a phased approach saying okay we're gonna give this much general fund money this year this much next year you know kind of map it out down the road to phase it in i'm just kind of trying to think sort of and we don't have the money yet but what would be best of like okay do some what obviously the lighting design and the study would be an initial thing because you're not just going to throw up lights but i'm wondering like do you connect some side fill in some sidewalks and put in some lights once you have some money or do you do all the sidewalks and do all the lights i'm just wondering if there's some kind of strategy around that there yes there is there is a strategy i there's there's different four on behalf of the ii said residents and from what we heard yes it was  lighting and i would say what's coming in second is items to enhance the walking experience so those pedestrian refuge islands curb extensions  access ramps sidewalk infill so that's the next and and and then from there and it was from this approach workshop we were pulling more on some of the grant funding they're not very expensive and and the bicycle clean amenities again were very favorable as well the the haley bike path received a lot of  positive appraised and and that's what's nice about that bike because we've only were allowed on this effort to do two workshops and so to continue that conversation again to kind of pick up where we left off to further explain for the bike path and and more the concept of the bicycle priority corridors but that sort of looks like we're excited to branch into the next phase so that's from the east the funding needs we'll try and tackle the the ones that are sort of the the least expensive improvements and if you can find grant money to go out and do it and and their recommendation is if there is any extra general fund money to get those and so those items were like the lighting study design because with anything for the bigger lighting improvement you have to have this sort of a design and placement to make it more appealing when we do apply for for grants and  and like access france sidewalk info but those are more easier just do it type projects with respect to are the engineering hat of our streets capital the  way we prioritize improvements there's there's categories and i know we've talked about our cip rankings before but you know pricing to the top is always if there's any apparent safety issues and then maintaining what we have for existing infrastructure so we own two hundred and thirty eight road miles in the city and that's already a lot to maintain so that's that's sort of the focus of our our streets capital again with the streets capital hat on for the safety improvement the only one that's an unfunded of a traffic safety improvement is the carpe voluntario so that that's an intersection of concern for us that we would if we had some grant funding would like to move forward on to increase the visibility at that intersection so three different improvements for pedestrians you know this says seventy thousand dollars per intersection and one hundred and fifty thousand dollars per block i mean obviously it would be great if there was like here's ten million dollars do all the lighting at once or you know here's one point whatever it is for for tefillin all sidewalks and improve all that are you saying that the sort of ranking of those sections then everything would go into that ranking does that work for lighting as well i think what we would have to do is take a look at with the neighborhood of hydra console suggest it and see where that falls and in concert with what the residents were  requesting and putting together a potential funding strategy that could be presented to the city council it's a policy decision whether or not they want to use general fund money for these type of purposes they have not we have the  fifteen to do the lighting study and then city staff you got to figure out how you pay for after that or apply for grant money annually you tell you get it done but you know just on a ten million dollar or figure to do the entire neighborhood you know i was doing them real quick napkin up calculation yesterday with jessica we only got one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year to do lighting based on current year's numbers it would take us about sixty six years to do that neighborhood yeah so that's not a good strategy so we would have to prioritize the streets where we would want to do lighting you know so but this is no different than any other neighborhood or the city in general insurance and not enough money to do the capital needs so you know one thing that we had looked at is well maybe we can just get money just to do all the pedestrian enhancements to make the residents feel more comfortable crossing the street but that's you know what dis under a million dollars that we're talking about between the intersex and the dirt recognized who his his analysis as well as the put a streetlight up based upon our request and then we pay for the power and there's a flat rate that we charge us for that if there's not an instant pull up there then we have to put the light and we have to bring the power and bring the pole install the light there are a number of existing utility posts basically if you have a neighborhood where you have a lot of overhead power line there's most likely going to be a utility pole someplace that's owned by edison and they can install the streetlight on that type of the pole and are there any utility poles out there like i would imagine you know the ones on the corners that are up probably or you have them but any mid block poles like is there an assessment of how many utility poles are out there with no lights on them as of now  i know that our facilities manager has also had been coordinate any earth continues to coordinate with coast and in the east side walks program over the past couple of years and he's participated in nighttime walks with the east side residents and  have been completed and there was a couple streetlights that were out that were reported at the workshop that have since been repaired and a lot of this it really really do depend on the eastside residents to be are our eyes out there because there's a lot of city streets and city lights and so it we depend on the residents also to help bring if there's any lighting issues to our attention and and as we move forward with this in this  effort is southern california edison will continue to be a partner in this effort great other comments questions okay so motion would be an order yeah company i'll go ahead and move that the transportation circulation committee find that the eastside neighborhood transportation management plan consist consistent with the general plan circulation element and recommends to council to adopt the plan not here but we did have the school dish that the principals of the three elementary schools and the area as well as it the middle school in junior high school that assisted us in getting the word out and the principal at franklin school provided the facility for us to have these meetings so good partnership as well as coast and the bike bicycle coalition and getting the word out to the residents and their participation in doing the the east side walk so it was a really good community effort and you know this is probably one