we're calling it that today because we have somebody got into the popcorn bag and we don't have much popcorn left but we've got plenty of appetite for movies so let's have it let's have a show about movies i'm bob brown i'm your moderator tonight on this whole popcorn i can't missing where the cameras facing we have our two of our regular panelists marilyn campbell and janet stern and tonight we're going to do reviews of two movies that were kind of in the summer theaters and they may still be there i think go one of them is definitely this is on a longer run  the first is the big stick which is a comedy and the second is baby driver which is sort of a comedy to a sort of thrilling ice ice movie and we'll start out is a pack pakistani immigrant and it really is the story about how he met his wife emily gordon and we gordon and coo mile and johnny wrote this script together i first saw coup mile on silicon valley he's one of the main stars of and he's really delightful on that show this book is out a really different aspect of him he's a very very sly actor in this and it's really a story of how they met how he tried to hide her in a way from his very very traditional and conservative pakistani family who are busy setting him up with every other one every pakistani woman they can meet they can find to arrange a marriage and he tries to hide this whole situation and he's sort of questioning both his where are his allegiances to his family or to this woman who's played by zoe because on and and and she's  so in the end he she because he doesn't take a stand she breaks up with him and that's when the movie really begins because she gets very very sick and this is all true story and her parents come to help out and she said she's in a coma in the hospital and her parents are played by holly hunter and ray romano and there's tension between come i'll who now realizes he loves her and and his and her parents and i neglected to say that he's also in this movie a stand up comedian or trying to be and in his off hours he's a nuber driver i believe yeah and so it's very very interesting that his stand up life is also not exactly what his parents would have wanted for him but now this seems to me to be a growing john if you've if you have cable you may be  seeing master of none that series very similar set up with ansari and his negotiating this transition into a culture that it's not his parents culture and how did you feel this film approach that  did you feel it pushed the kind of race card in some way or cultural priority or that did it feel natural or forced it's it's interesting that you say that because i thought a master of none continuously i did because it so i think yeah i just felt this is lived in this has felt and from the his path the people who plays parents are magnificent but they don't go over the line they do what you would think an immigrant family would do they'd come here they want to better life for their children and then they don't want their children to live the lives that they find here and there and that's actually one of the lines that he says to them i think that's really the crux of it you know if the well you know by the same token people who do immigrate can often feel more or more of a need to hold on to their own cultural i think that's true but it's not only immigration i know in my own family my parents didn't go to college and they were somewhat of course they wanted me to go to college but they were also somewhat worried that it would make me a stranger than them and i think that  that plays out in immigration stories all the time is that it's the same push pull of all parenthood in the way you want to launch your children into the world but you don't want to lose them right and  they feel i think the parents in this movie feel that that that there's all kinds of ways he could be american in some ways but when it comes to marriage in the family and fashion and being religious or not religious they want all of those traditional values to be upheld and i think in some ways the pakistani family is a little bit more cliched than  than the american family the american family is allowed to be a little bit more quirky a little bit more contradictory in their own feelings of wanting to protect protect their daughter from this guy they think has been mean to her and is trying also then to accept the fact that maybe the couple does have a life but do you remember there a brief scene in which it's revealed that holly hunter's family didn't like ray romano when they met brighton he was from york and she was from the south carolina and so that didn't work out that was a bit so having surmounted that i think they were more open to letting their daughter follow her bliss as it were just they didn't like him at first they did when they didn't like him because i lived about because he didn't follow through on the relationship right princeton he said in the interview that mack is stanley children don't rebel they just don't they just do what their family has always done they just don't it's not a question of that so when he was a young boy and watching american movies vandalism play for comedy i don't get it and his father in real life was a doctor and the question was not what are you going to do when you grow up but what kind of guy that was the question that its day was really hard on them i actually think it's hard hunter perry you know that was interesting as you say mean they were kind of a mismatch from the start and they play that throughout the film there's a constant kind of battle for all of wills in their relationship although it's one of those things goes defending him which is i think part of her part of her personality is that she is the mama bear as sarah palin pale and used to say and and she's going to defend him even if she doesn't like him or thi is her her mother's daughter i mean she she has a kind of rebellious streak herself where she's the one who when he says any pakistanis in the audience of course this white girl through and i really got a very great sense on the part of ray romano someone i don't know that well because i never saw the program that he's associated with everybody loves her that once again oh the having committed some kind  of well he did something in his and it wasn't too far in the past but here he is with a dying daughter and he wants to be back in the fall i mean he's the father he wants to be there but you see him trying to weave his way into his wife's affections again because they've got to be this unit is really very very tender and not you know there are a lot of poignant moments in a film that supposedly a comedy right and also bob this and i think in this very very packed film like you say the hospital scenes i thought were really authentic and they show you people waiting around when someone is in intensive care and they did and they show you the backgrounds of the nurses i mean the nurses you get to know a little bit of the review that said that so we can spend it doesn't really have that much screen time before she's in a medically induced coma and then she has to make a sort of a mark and if all these people are very concerned about i'm sure did and does yeah she does that business of cultural mismatch the you have the added element of a group that is under suspicion so one of the funniest icebreaking drugs like you're go gets into the terrorist jokes before his body else can preempt yeah right you kill him and he and his brothers who both look very you know book both look like they could be muslims started to sort of he looks at people  criminal activities in this case he's being blackmailed by by a crime ward played by kevin spacey as he plays the president in counterparts and he's sucked in and he's trying to work off a debt to this guy by driving get away cars for robberies and he thinks at some point he's going to get out but of course kevin spacey is not going to let him out and so he has to he has to stage sort of a very desperate breakout to change the situation in which there's a lot  of there's a big body count but i think the unique thing about this movie but what has been said is the unique thing about this movie into the extremely familiar story is that the film is cut to a soundtrack that character baby has tonight is from a car accident lash back you know in this very important part of this news in a car accident where his parents are killed and he gets a damage to his hearing so that he has a ringing in his ears and the only thing he can do to overcome the ring in his ears is playing music on these ear buds all the time because the movie is cut to whatever song happens seven is ear because one of the reason he wants to get out of the criminal life is that he meets a waitress in a diner you know they say marc right i think we said make wait wait for us in the diner who really wants to you know is willing to get into a car with him and coincidences i have to mention this i just read this the female lead the female romantic lead was first offered to emma stone but she declined so that she could be in la la land and there are so many parallels in the way this film to right yeah you're right yeah but he had this film apparently in the back of his head for a while and he was just he needed to get a little more experience under his belt before they gave him a big fantasy because it's absolutely impossible in real life that's what you thought yes that's what i think i might do i did too and she said i just thought the ending really was really shitty if she said but if it's a fan to say maybe that would be ok well i think one of the thing where you know after death one of the one of the reasons it's appealing at least to me it's a total bubble gum  you go in you sit down and from the moment you're involved in the first scene i mean it's taken you want to run and it never stops i mean it occasionally quiets down for between heist but the actors they've picked all these a list actors like kevin spacey as a war of the war as a gang lord of some kind when he's on his own whatever it is he does he's a criminal he's a criminal mastermind and you've got jamie foxx and you've got jon hamm and you've got a number of pop musicians in cameo roles whom i didn't know so they don't ask me much for that yeah but you kind of puts a smile on your face to watch these scenes and this kind of deadpan delivery by this kid actor who's really in not known to me very much well i think he was in the fall to see our stars we said john green out of adapted young adult novel that's a sort of  write but when you it sounds to me like when you were both watching it you were constantly being reminded that this was clichd you know i didn't know you'd seen this before oh well not so much well i mean every as they say there's only like five heard they throw the other guy just throw themselves in the car and say dr i can't hear anything since he's got this music on no there's a funny scene where kevin spacey is explaining a very complex job they're going to do which has all kinds of entrances  after the film and it's the way it's coordinated with the action which is quite exciting most of the time otherwise if you hadn't said that i would have thought it sounded awfully contrived oh it's definitely contrived but in such a slick way it's going to get some academy awards for editing so it was a technical feat yes well i think the editing the editing of  the action and the soundtrack combined to make it almost like a music video which are sometimes extremely visually very interesting because they don't have to worry about story much they just have to make the visuals and the music coordinate you know very exciting way and that's what this movie does i think that in fact they said hey you know let's do the innocent young man pulled into a life of crime against his well yes lots and lots of upstanding yeah so it's good it's funny i just found myself smiling throughout the thing i did not resent the fact that it was you know predictable  and it met them and i thought it was really well written well directed very interesting and full flow personalities not just the range of people and i will say one more thing that i forgot to say in his interview that i heard he was asked about his mother's or his real mother's feeling about this young woman he said well actually she first came into the story when emily had already gone into a coma and she was going for it and it has also a very appealing to a very appealing characters and the parents supporting characters are also very well written and as you say as far as baby driver is concerned this is the sort of movie that maybe you really should rest of it is very competently done by not a surprise yeah i agree with that i thought it was an enjoyable moving that i enjoyed in spite of myself i said they're thinking what i've gone through this movie enough of it these days i think we miss it so yeah ok i agree with you yeah well join us for another thrilling episode when we probably won't have more problems than we've got no