you're going to try to explain to me like block the whole lot of things that i'm boyd behind the curve but tell me how are things going and let me just make a quick reference to the fact you had that event there in virginia beach where supervisor and so those things do happen yeah you know and it's unfortunate and then we get beat tend to overreact on those kind of issues  argument over a contract relationship or something like that yeah so we'll find out more about that later but yeah we're virginia be strong and we're going to you know heal from this  comes out in people who have been oppressed or something like you know they've been oppressed or treated badly a lot of people feel they're pretty badly by the system in place and there's a lot of like a lot of people who were these issues that we're discussing right now and it's relevant because most of most of the world is tribal and we're consider what they say a super tribe of many different tribes and we all want to be a part of a tribe whether it's a town and why black hispanic and the unique thing about united states is that your this super tribe and we're supposed to be a melting pot but along the way of course you know we've had some injustice or major injustices like slavery that was the issues that we're going to be discussing one of the major things is our social interaction and how we going to navigate getting finance  to the people and economically are they how are people going to earn an income from all this new to acknowledging that's going to be taking people's jobs so there's a lot of those social titles that could be but you know there's only one steve and there's only one book that's going to relate to the humanities the way i'm doing it so i'm not afraid of that i'm trying to bring humanity with us on facebook live and did a show with chris fang cleaved he's doing fine and everybody was just amazed that we could record a whole concert  phone and then hit a button and it would be to the world you know i was out of the world like an automatic and it's funny because as i'm recording  people from asheville north carolina and people tuning in then an hour and we're just so happy to be able to see some of their their old musician friends playing and you know ten years ago this wasn't even a five years ago that wasn't possible so things are exponentially moving down to a new level of of capabilities and we're going to talk a little bit about that his other book is called bold for the st as abundance the future is better than you think and then the how to is bold and he was one of the first people to describe  what these new beginnings were and how crowd funding in crowd connections was going to bring in the future that we didn't know a just recently are discovering how that works it's it's quite amazing so so there's a book called machine platform crowd and it's called harnessing our and andrew fayez principal research scientist and so they really discuss the machine the platform and the crowd and how all that is interacting and and it hasn't had this level of connection for a very short time i mean if you take i can give you some examples of that i think that might might be something that you might be interested in but let's say for the machine the machine is is our computing power ok and up until recently we've been using computers to do word processing and i if you can remember the st computers for like coal were cards that were punched holes you know and  you know that's how things were done and it was it was helping us greatly and that improved our capabilities of performance but little by little we developed  the computer chip to actually be digital and that actually gave us much more productivity enhancer productivity tremendously ok but you know it actually it actually increased even more when the machines were able to not only just be reactive to let me just say that back in i think it was two thousand and sixteen google no no yeah actually came  china except jesus said that you shouldn't be playing any kind of frivolous games but you should play go because it's played on a nineteen by nineteen grid with white and black you know it's so hard to even conceptualize so a regular computer the safe you made a move the computer would say ok what other moves could be possible like in chest there's only a finite amount of moves so that's compute how many moves there actually is and go and they they said it was two times ten by one hundred and seventy power so that's like that's two with one hundred and seventy zero ok so there was a problem with with trying to actually beat really good go was there was there there was this one guy he was the best in the world ok and he could beat anybody so they put this new deep learning and twenty years before a computer could even think about beating anybody and go ok but what happened was that google came out the following month in a paper about  deep learning tree learning and it was all about that the computer can now actually strategize so they they put in the thirty thousand moves games that that they had  and it played another thirty i mean three hundred and three zero or thirty million thirty thousand and then they did another they played another three billion thirty million or thirty thousand i can't remember exactly what it was yeah i mean it was it was amazing so it learnt another thirty thousand games ok and once it did that it was able to strategize and beat the best go player so so this is what's happening in deep learning not only is it computers able to you know just do just fundamental things now it's they're able to think and strategize so work we're coming to the age where computers are actually by putting in dad can actually strategize  we have platforms like facebook air b n b that have no traditional assets of their own industries ok so in other words platforms what are the platforms ok platforms are like facebook air b and b you know these are these are the things that traditionally if you were going to run a motel ok you would you would go onto the website and you would book a room let's say with a hilton or you know one of the major  you now you go on to air b n b and book through this platform called air air b n b and it has no rooms it just books rooms and it's the biggest plain english let's see if i can do that for you let's  media company but they they create no content and other words other people go on and advertise on facebook but they're the most popular media yeah owner of content right so that's that's what you know what a platform is and these platforms are the new way to create a whole new revenue stream ok facebook did over six point something one billion dollars in advertisement ok over six point something one billion dollars in advertising it's just extraordinary amount you know so they're you know these companies are making huge amounts of money and becoming really highly valued but they don't have any product warehouses they don't even use what amazon uses right so so that's what platforms are now the crowd is people like us ok so this is a new type of funding called crowdfunding you know and to go is a platform that that you can crowd source income you know there's different ones like that so so let me give you an example what g e did in two thousand and fourteen they they worked with the university a lose lose a bill lose a vote louisville and louisville and launched a joint initiative called st bill ok and that was considered what they could a co creating community could creation community ok and   e was creating a new type of ice machine that was actually had holes in it so it absorbed flavors and it was easily crunched people like to chew on ice and they needed to design this so they went on to indigo and they used the crowd to help them design and market a product that was within its expertise ok and they started selling it at three hundred and ninety nine preordered ok this is before the machines even built nine dollars dollars three thousand three hundred and ninety nine dollars and then they bumped it up to four hundred and ninety nine dollars the goal was a couple of one hundred thousand dollars in sales in the st day or so they did that and by the time the people want to fund the new business they will go on these platforms and crowd source to have either customers or  help pay for the movie that they're making now and the go on there and say look i'm making a movie i need your help and for helping me make this movie and by the way they get no ownership the st showcase of it you know or something of that nature person making an album would say look i'll send you an album cover and if you give me five one thousand dollars i come and play a concert at your house ok if the let's say  create a new album might cost them between five dollars twenty five cents so they'll say if you give me x amount dollars i'll even come in and do a concert at your house so this is a new way of funding that's going on it's bad for other things it's always been and even when looms learn to start creating the people that were knitting actually started tearing down the looms they were crushing them saying this is going to take my job you finite amount of money that was just created in thin air and at one dollar time it was going for cents and then like you said the two facebook guys got into it and with their sixty five million dollars that they got  from their settlement of facebook which they are supposed to have invented and somebody else just ripped them off and we talked about that but they invested all that money into  point and then at that time it was like eight dollars to nine dollars they invested it well big corn actually had a rally up to twenty thousand dollars now now big coin is based on a system kind of like what the gold system is there's a limited amount and so whatever anybody is willing to pay the value is driven up or down so you know one time goal was you know quite low and then it shot up to eight hundred dollars because people were worried that the world's money was actually becoming worthless so gold has always been a standard that people have migrated to in times of fear but you know gold has its limitations too it's heavy you can't move it you can't eat it you know and all those kind of things but gold standard it's they're going to use asset base so they're going to buy bonds and their money is going to be backed by government purchased bonds so it's it's actually developed with master charge and pay pal and a few big people like that and it's going to be handled by a rd party that is nonprofit so most people even business magazine can't tell you where they're going to bank put the money or anything like that so new governments don't even know how to address it right now so you're not alone with not understanding  ships and he says oh yeah we've been using black ching for containers now for some time so they designed a system to be able to trade with then their own  shipping platforms so they would give so much money into into this black chain system and it would move around all these containers without having to move money because money has to be going through banks and then it has to go through you know if it's us currency it has to be changed over you know to different currencies and different values where they decided to make it a certain amount and because you know we've talked about machines we talked about platforms and we talked about the crowds now the crowd is being used by corporations and corporations have been using people for a long time you know to develop their there a headed depending on you know like how fast things are moving most companies are what they call linear thinking if you if you look at kodak they invented digital camera they hi it because they were worried about their paper you know biting into their paper development and all that and all of a sudden they are now an old dinosaur that i now bankrupt because they didn't continue on focusing on that digital camera at one time was nowhere near the quality of film but now people use digital  you know master card has gotten involved with facebook to develop this now ok this new black chain because they saw that it's not going away ok so the new development what i'm looking at is this collective capitalism is that when we start owning all this capital and i mean we're going to facebook one day and we're going to amazon and yeah sure tell me where i'm wrong well ok so so right now corporations basically own k street and they tell the you know elected officials what they want in the bill and you know so so they actually write the rules as we become owners of the capital production well i have in my book i designed it  my book with a special reality show that makes everybody an owner and special systems with deep learning tree systems that allow like minds to do like projects together now you got or stand all these companies there's one thing that they need and what's that oh i don't know well i mean after they make the product what is the one thing that all these customers need when they make their to be that for a long period of time because you know there's only about forty to sixty percent of what computing can do but the mind and the bean has to do the rest of it when i'm ok yeah yeah and spain they started off with a small oil lantern and then they developed over five hundred dollars businesses now they own the largest bank they own the largest grocery stores they have their own research and development right yeah and it's going worldwide you kind of and it's research and development so so that everybody that's in the it has legs i think the model that i'm coming up with even more has well well it's going to take it to the next level ok because you know when you have one business and you're and you put your retirement money in your victim of that that revenue stream let's say refrigerators or whatever ok but what about the digital platforms like facebook great awakening st of all what we need in the world is a goal now we're going to the you know moon now again and we're going to go to mars that's a goal and there's a lot of reasons for  that but basically the world needs goals instead of just fear right now you know we're being you know republican democrat you know all these fear based systems are going around scar worldwide understanding of what that does and what that what the potential of that can be so mature conquered describes a man as man one man to man three man one it's like when we were we have system that allows all like minded people to come together and put their incomes together ok and utilize the income that they need and then take the to say oh this industry needs ten billion dollars this industry needs this ok so we're not going to so you're thinking to individual yeah yeah you know and this is  mindset that has to be changed it's not about you or it's not about me it's about us so what you think about systems say ok well we need something to be having to build our houses on the real estate so it's not about individuals about collective purchasing power ok well that's going to have to be because the technology is going to be very very conveniently exponentially doing away with the need for what used to be from the monday and so we can do the important work and very famous person said that many many years ago and his name was you remember i don't  absolute total genius treasure he's a treasure and he and he says that we're early into the universe and spaceship mother earth and that we're you know we're going to hundred million miles an hour or so this universal you know a little arm in the universe and actually the sun is pulling us so we're not just going around the sun the sun is pulling us and we're just traveling through this whole solar system i mean it is is alive and that by creating through good design we'll be able to take care of the the monday and so we can do the imp or to work whatever that is ok whatever we decide what the important organization that's very important to take care of yeah right and so save ability of providing for everyone that we couldn't have even dreamed of in the past absolutely include everybody rather than just in order for one to weigh there has been the assumption of our political leadership for one group when somebody else has that alludes absolutely never can be you know so wonder when it's so real this is very very true in our political well you're not going to see it in the political part of the leadership it's going to come from entrepreneurs like myself it's not a bad word to be an entrepreneur or a systems thinker if it's utilizing it not just to make another widget you know that you can make a one million dollars you know can we actually create systems and mechanisms that free us from the monday and so we can do the important work and that's what my whole life work is how do we do and how do we deal with the a narrative and say the nation state and international order and the right thing right and the tribal systems that we have yeah and the tribal systems that we have in the religions and  it's our fundamental behavior as humans that are slowing down this whole process ok so that i have spent a lot of time trying to focus on what will it take for for people to feel at ease enough to feel that they still keep their independence and their ability to to shift when they want to shift to to have some kind of  anonymity if they want or be able to connect into something when they want it and still still enjoy the whole capital production now there's another group of people called c e s j center for economic and social justice norman courland yes and he has done you know along with louis kelso binary economics and this can be a platform that can transcend the old modalities and no longer service into the new ones that i'm developing to so i don't mind this being a bridge system ok but eventually corporations will be all owned by the people i predicted and i predicted that it can happen much quicker then we even understand ok but it needs systems to be able to do that and that's what i'm designing and launching in the next few months and we'll be able to talk reason why i was a financial capital of new york city going bankrupt and how how and why that was happening so of course i came into the music industry and richie havens  said you get writing a lot but he says that i'm going to put you in the videos apartment and i said well i'm only a photographer you know because i was a restauranteur before that and he says no you'll you'll you'll learn meeting richie havens at a friend of his house that's having a birthday party and his name was harold hudson chandler seven and that's when i really got to meet richie havens for the rd time and then we you had announced at the same time i was meeting richie that you had just interviewed timothy leary yeah and that that we should sit down and listen to the he said rich there is richie havens and then everybody else he was a yeah yeah i mean he had that special connectivity to humanity so you were i wasn't i wasn't i wasn't that that time level actually occur and then it's effect on the earth you could go back as far back as nine hundred years and see you know the paintings on the walls are ten thousand  yeah seventy it's your year but you know where i like to make the point is that when we were able to round it out ok signal in show business you got  take care take him away take him away take him away take him away away you're