privation food insecurity disease and automatically conflict the inclusion of the interests and use of women the youth children and stability democracy and good governance i think showed ingredients for sustainable development in view of the fact that elections are and instead grow element of democracy my as we differ in our democratic and electoral process sovereignty of nations specially african nations and nations in the diaspora of any better group to keep us abreast of what's going on in africa especially in places like zimbabwe then the december th movement and once again it is my honor to have two members of the twelve here to talk about  on mainstream media because they tend to black out any concern that people around the world have with the policies of the united states as it affects them directly it from zimbabwe and a lot of times they would have you believe that africans are either savages or complete idiots that w  king to the united nations so you i know you understand you heard right from his voice i'm not telling you what he did or did not say you heard him say it  he is cogent he is is logical and he wants the best for parties people law with that i'm going to turn it over to you guys because you've been very busy this weekend what with the particularly in these days where there's just very little black talk anything video or audio it's important to be able have access to to the community and like you said a lot of things are blacked out a whited out however you and mao in the communist party of china in charge and china became a world power they didn't say that anymore because china's outside of china knew that china had their back and chinese outside of china had china's back will similarly that's what black people need here you know that we cannot continue to have our existence depend upon not the largest of the united states but whatever progress we made from struggling in the streets to force them to recognize our human our humanity in our human rights that we have to have something outside of that you know malcolm always talked about you know the the the putting ourselves in the world stage in the international arena we have this something outside of that  a threat to the security united states and it's a threat not in its physical existence but it's a threat in terms of the idea it represents of the effect you know if you're small country you can stand up to the united states and britain in the european union on the principle that this is our land it was stolen from us and now we're taking the land back from those who stole it from us and distributed it to our people that's a very dangerous idea and so that's why here are really tied to conditions in africa even though we made our see people who are responsible for the conditions in africa in terms of the oppression of africa the suppression of africa are the same people who are responsible for situation here and once we with ever it's a sex in a way folks that basically don't have a pot nor a window without colonization and when you talk about nations wanting to control their own resources you're talking about a threat not simply coming from that nation itself which is considerable but a threat to the entire well being of it's the way that you put it if you want to if you want to look at it in the way that when you were saying that it was illustrated to me is that europe is a leech europeans are the beaches  leeches need a host to survive so if if the host is like i don't want you stuck in my blood anymore then that's the problem for the leech because then how's the leech going to live and that's the reality of it because at the end of the day we know that africa is the wealthiest nation well thing is continent of natural resources we literally have everything they can say or like a swiss is known for chocolate but where does the cow come from mine they can plant that in europe so you know what i'm saying they talk about diamonds on the queen's head and stuff like that diamonds come from you know we are the source and we are the resource so it's it's a it's when it comes to zimbabwe and when zimbabwe is seen actually no more of this leeching business then yes that causes a dead definitely causes a threat for those european nations specifically britain in america you know it causes it causes a problem for them because now it's like oh my god what are they going to do it now because we're the forerunner for land reform zimbabwe is oh my god now you're going to set that example for all these other african countries oh we got to stop that and we have to make in china make an example out of zimbabwe and say all if you try to liberate yourselves and if you try to be self determined this is what's going to happen but you know but zimbabwe is the example not for that was in bobby is the example that you can liberate yourselves and you we if if for african nations were to come together and fight that fight it will be unstoppable so it's just like we have to see ourselves in see the power that we have and and i think the the problem is that they don't control their economy they have political independence they have a flag but they don't control their economy and they're commies not controlled in interest not withstanding the fact that there are a few africans who've made a lot of money including the present current president who did very well for themselves now it has not had any effect on the quality of life of the majority of south africans which is why at this point they're talking about taking  now but you're going to be punished for it so that they'll get people think it will maybe we shouldn't do this other countries didn't do this because look at the ramifications they almost destroyed the zimbabwean economy they had historic inflation with the people persevered the people believed in the government and zanu p f was working in the interest so that when they were at their lowest point in two thousand and eight it was hyperinflation and you know there were lines for everything  the people still still persevered they had put in opposition they had installed an opposition movement for democratic change the m d c was installed by formal you know white farmers with some black people up front and they thought they would be able to take the government that way and that they close is all they could do was be in there as joint members of the parliament but in doing that they suppose that all they were really interested in was not the welfare of the country but getting a mercedes and having a job  title being able to driven around so they have no credibility at this point which is why this saturday may th which is african liberation day we're going to be going to d c to talk to will was passed in two thousand and one with the sponsorship of jesse helms the the races cracker from north  democratic ideal of the west and so we said there's no democracy and until we determine that there is democracy which means you have to give that land back that you're taking then we will enforce bipartisan i mean they're moving forward in the united states son of an amendment to the zimbabwe democracy act last august right a week after the election when president and governor was elected in what were free and fair elections we were there was there is a as a monitor and the election process there was even more transparent was much more transparent than what you see going here in the united states hand ballots people monitoring it right in the open by saying there's no way to not stuff the ballot because every party had the right to have people that each of the polling stations so it was a free and fair election but not withstanding that the congress passed a bill with the with the act compliance or no with the who they voted for it this is the congressional black caucus not that said that they were up in the answer they were making it even more onerous in terms of how these sanctions were going to be lifted that not only did they they have to in essence really try and return the land and so that's why we're going to d c because we've got to put we've got to make our quote unquote elected officials responsible yet st we have to have the president only are the sanctions been onerous from the beginning they're getting worse and they're continuing and the president needs to take a stand around that and the congressional black caucus who a stance of late is comes from us when michigan who took positions in defense of black people home and abroad they understood the connection in the senate that they really had no power unless there was a strong independent africa the people who have been here now  like lapdogs for trump as reactionaries he is and so that's where we're going to end this and we encourage any of your viewing audience who is interested in coming they can give us a call we may still have a couple of seats left on the bus or you can hop on a com and you get the information but even if you can't make it it's important to get the information to understand its importance and then for you to contact your elected officials and say the sections need to be listed you need to take a you and everything that struggle and died so that you could have two dollars over large money well we have not just a congress we have city council people we have people point where the people of the world have had difficulty in trusting the people that they entrusted to protect them  that directly affect us all across the globe our porton is that we hold them to the to the far i think is extremely important to hold them accountable because they're supposed to be running for positions that are supposed to be in our interests and i think it's time is up with the bamboozlement of black people because it's ridiculous and on the issue of zimbabwe the c b c they say in there and when it came to like international fears that their  their interest is about brothers and sisters here and abroad well the brothers and sisters in zimbabwe are feeling it because sanctions are a weapon of mass destruction and they are used to destroy the people you know what i mean not having the medical supplies that you need me not having the waste management chemicals that you need which creates the cholera in the military malaria and all that other stuff so now and then you don't have the medical supplies to help you with that starving people and stuff like that what what part of your interest is for the brothers and sisters abroad if you are sought signing off on sanctions in zimbabwe and that's clearly there to destroy the people so black elected officials need to be held accountable for rio because enough is enough like where people are really dying out here and people are really getting hurt and it's not fear so you just do the same thing and try to  us like other european white crackers whatever they do that's us enough so it's not it's not too early most of our congressional look to officials are for reelection next year and they need to understand beginning and nineteen that people are not going to forget in two thousand and twenty what they did or didn't do this year in terms of the conditions of our people and that part of that is just an analysis of their understanding of the relationship between domestic problems and international problems and foreign problems and that we expect more of them you know there's a greater demand that the fact that they were elected should not be taken for granted that you know it's people he united states the united states we need we knew when you look at cooperative nations of the world when you look at the world the united states right now is basically a rogue  nation it pulled out of the human rights council it pulled out of the international criminal court and basically said i do what i want when i want if you don't like it it's not my face it is inconceivable to me personally to see black elected officials go in along with a lot of things that are being done and the name of being american or say not only not only do we have to hold their hold our black elected officials if no other of elected officials in the world we need to not just hold our black officials accountable but steer them in in the direction that we have been attempting to go in since they stole this from africa in the st place you know your thoughts on having to deal with what the hell does that matter with these people well i think it's not a question of intelligence because they're very smart it's a question today and tomorrow it's a question of decisions you make decisions that you make a charles barron was running against him and there was money coming in from all over the country for her came jeffries because those sources have made a decision of ram he's in our interest and i say he's our he's our guy he's our negro he's in the real question is how much do we bring to bear to influence them to understand the consequences of ignoring us going to be that you're not going to be reelected and i you know you know to be able to conduct what you want to do when you want to do it without interference by people and to to this point we haven't done that we have not had to the extent it was the same thing when when president obama was elected people supported obama and you know he was black  know because he was black but that wasn't going to be sufficient in terms of then the type of lobbying and pressure that needed to bring him into the fold around doing things for black people because my mission was i'm the president of the united merican i think well i'm not the macro president for black people but he would take positions in support of other groups who obviously had lobbied him and brought more power to bear than than than black folks and so it's the same on a smaller scale on a lower scale with ou your influence on your elected officials and so that's that's why when i said we keep pushing this question of zimbabwe the united states and europe leech off the visit as in my said leach off of africa there was a there was a president in cote d'ivoire named by bull he was there was a contested election in two thousand and ten and the person running against him had the backing of the west and at belongs most people don't know that most of the francophonie country former colonies of france there their budgets their economies are still controlled by the french my money goes from there to the central bank of france and central bank of france back out to them night and back was that we're not doing that we're not doing that we're not taking our our economy to the to the franc or to the dollar to the euro man we're going to determine what that is that made him a threat in the same way that are a man of the threat because they were bucking they were saying we're not going along with his game plan we're not going to let you you know you suck in my blood i'm going to pull you off my neck and throw you down and i think that's that's that's what's lacking in the vision in the same way i guess that the jewish politicians that they support israel as wrong as bad as what israel israel is a colonizer in that area but they support them they understand that their interests in terms of the global power in being a jew inside the united states where anti semitism is around not that to the extent that israel is strong it gives them some back even though what israel is doing is is races you know it's a different situation that africa is just exercising its right to self determination being based upon living off or oppressing some other country or living like as israel does of the palestinians and is really like the the the voice of the west inside of an area where there are distinct minority that's what we have to do in turn that's what our politicians don't feel don't see the need and that's what we have to bring to bear and i think that those of us who are conscious and have understanding know what's really going on like as i just said that thought about like the ways like you know how there's somebody behind him pulling the strings it looks like this be scary thing but you know those of us who are consciousness stuff like that it's our job to continuously talk this talk all the time at all times because these elected officials put in by the people the people who are au prince and the reason why they put you in the office is because they're feeling in mind that we fail as black people in this nation indeed looking to you for hope so how dare you use that seat to continue on with this madness ok great grandson you're in this whole machine but if the people put you in there i think you need to be doing the work of the people are you talking about just signing the death slips of brothers and sisters on the continent are you even do you even have knowledge of what you're doing right and if you do they say more and you want that this opinion is not simply  world of the world the u n has already determined that you cannot impose sanctions that inhibit the flow of food and medicine but that is exactly what you sanctions for to make sure and as we speak we're talking about food and medicine that even even other countries around the world has said no you can't do this that the sanctions going in and of themselves are part and parcel to making the united states of america the united states of america that controls the world bank makes the united states mission that everybody agrees that this is an abomination you cannot do this and when when black elected officials sanborn did this they are worse rhetorical support for right you know right saying sanctions sounds like a benign kind of word right and it's you know when we say sanctions kill or sanctions or weapon of mass destruction people may forget forgotten that before united states went show it's you know look at the question of sanctions look at it is effect oh the other trick they play say well these are targeted sanctions they're only targeted at higher ups in the in the government that's not that's not how it plays up higher ups in any government don't should support the sanctions on zimbabwe because they only target the leadership so they get people to go along with all kinds of leadership there spills the bad guy so i don't care but when you see the effect it has on the ground and what effect it has on people then they might say well no of the sanctions for and that's what this is about it's right now it's a war front began to get our community to understand sanctions kill in their most extreme form sanctions kill short of that they create a whole lot so it's a game we've got to be able to see through it we've got to be able to see through it and i have to always acknowledge we being the example of doing something that no other african country has ever done and that is stake that what was rightfully theirs take back the land that rightfully belongs to them you know that is zimbabwe is the example so we black people must look and we must be in zimbabwe because they are the example piri you know what i'm saying they are the st to ever do something as extraordinary as that and that's why they're being punished and that's why we have to have their back because  t the french or for africans you know trying to get around the question of land and he said african say oh they're going to integrate france i mean the african colonies into france and they said ever said we don't want no france we want bubbling back in the sixty's when he was working at the san francisco state teaching black studies because san francisco state had developed the st black studies program and when we started regularly attending also he passed two years ago and i can so we developed a strong relationship with with zimbabwe we took up the struggle against the the  over four thousand people came to hear president mugabe and some more zimbabwe tonight and over the years we've done a lot of different things we we've monitored the elections just to make you know in terms of the whole question of monitoring the elections we've attended different of the years we developed our relationship and so they were you know they sent condolences to us around that the president has even mentioned it in terms of the loss of a marine good but it's a reflection of we've got your back they' would not only did he tell them put it down and put his hand on it and force that bad boy right down to the ground and they didn't do anything but it was an example of self determination rather listen to them and they did his work and now he's passing on the baton we have to continue the work and we have to continue in fearlessness because these colonizers are trying to make us saw scared and weak of everything but do this but it's just like we have to know that it's going to take sacrifice and it's going to take fearlessness and that that's the only way for us to be free we have to do the things that we may be afraid to do you have to do them they have to don't have to be a black president or you have to do is take a rightist position of position on justice and will come out fine the problem is that your position was not a just position because