would like to call the meeting of this transportation and circulation committee to order please okay roll call uh committee member france here warren here watches to change his agenda are there any changes to the agenda mr chair there are no changes to the agenda thank you are there any announcements yes we have a number of announcements um first of all we knew have a new committee member this is his first meeting so andrus malavos uh is coming to us and would you like to say anything about uh your process in getting here or anything we should know happy to be here um i thought it was a great opportunity and i saw it and so submitted and uh here i am today so yeah welcome to join excellent and so we met with andres and gave him kind of the play by play of you guys and said everything would be okay so so please behave and then also i want to this is kind of a milestone time right now because ed france who has been a committee member since two thousand and eight this is his last meeting and uh he is still trying to stay on he's got an application in the council to stay on the downtown parking committee uh committee but in this one he's going to resign he can tell you a little bit about that but also the other thing  might not know is ed france has also resigned from the bicycle coalition and i just want to say that i've been working with the bicycle coalition as a kind of a loose form of group of folks on a volunteer basis since my career started here at the city in one thousand nine hundred and ninety one and what ed france has done for the bicycle coalition is nothing short than phenomenal he's taken them taken them to a new place of organization with a strong representation not just in the city but in the county you know they have their location on haley so they have the a place they've got a building they own they've got bc centro which is a just an incredible a place where kids and people can come to learn how to work on bikes and learn everything about bikes and everything that ed has done for the bicycle coalition has just turned to gold so it's just a really uh has been a really exciting career not just at the bicycle coalition but also on this committee forming much of the city policy that has led to the projects that are on the ground now so i just like to give ed just a moment to speak a little bit about whatever he wants to tell you but it's quite a quite a celebration for me to recognize all he the role he's done for this both for the city and for the bicycle coalition which are simultaneously coming to a sunset he's got some exciting new things on the horizon that perhaps he'll tell you about so ed france rob thank you so much that is a very my career with the bicycle coalition uh including our past president chairing the meeting tonight and and this community of residents community members transportation planners and interested people it's been such a great opportunity for me and i want to share a thought about kind of my time which i think i was saying was eight years because i can't count the years up to almost eleven years somehow that i've served on this committee i will say that when i first started doing work with the bike coalition and then was encouraged to join the transportation circulation com e by mark bradley from coast i uh i jumped into such a highly politicized environment and it was kind of crazy going back to that time um every transportation issue was uh sort of like this make or break political time and um i'm proud of the fact that advocates for sound transportation planning for all people who are using our streets and right of way um really came to the fore but what i'm most proud about and i think this is such an acknowledgement to the city of santa barbara staff and to the t and the community that we've had is that these issues have become increasingly just discussions and getting everybody up to speed the level of politic politicization of basic things like okay there's a death at this intersection how are we going to deal with it it's a straightforward process it's a detailed process and it's something that we really have to work with everybody to come to a common understanding  it's not this politicized nasty negative thing that we had an era that transportation kind of had to live in and i'm just so thankful to be able to have had the time to see that change and i hope that that's a positive sign for a lot of things when there's this negative uh just vitriolic kind of energy that it doesn't have to be that way so um it's been a real pleasure to serve uh and thank you so much for the opportunity yeah do you want to tell us a little bit about what you're doing next oh uh i am extremely pleased to take a position with leading from within which is a leadership development organization that serves santa barbara county and also into a degree la county and um this will be a real opportunity for me to grow in the social sector and try to support more of our non profit and government uh leadership and really kind of a whole bringing your whole person uh approach to how you how you do work because there's technical work but you really have to lead from um from your true self you know from your heart and uh it's a well i if if it weren't for ed i i wouldn't be sitting here today and watching in my role as a board member and thereafter um as the president of presence which we didn't have before even from the purchase of the property was in was a part of the purchase of the bike coalition offices and bc centro but beyond that ed's co we have just been amazed by the growth through the whole bike master plan process and the engagement of community members and others to participate in that process at a high level a level that was not often seen before and that it's a gradual transformation but it's a steady transformation and ed you've made that possible so thank you so much for your work it's good really good and i just say you know we we deal with all forms of transportation and and in santa barbara the dominant forum is driving and that's good and we want people to have drive congestion free in santa barbara that's that's really our goal that's one of the people reasons people come from los angeles they don't want congestion and mtd and bicycling and walking are a very important element of enabling the majority of us who drive to do that congestion free so it's a really important role and more and more people are doing bicycling not just for transportation because they want to be healthy and and thanks for your leadership in that regard and on this committee so much much appreciated mr chair one more announcement that i have um melissa cunningham who is in the second row uh next to barry she is the new executive director of the coalition of sustainable transportation better known as coast so welcome to her and thank you for being at this comm we returned to public comment and could barry remus would you be very good perfect has been moved and seconded we have emotion all in favor and it's okay for you to vote on the minutes very good we move on to reports the cliff drive vision zero and active transportation corridor planning effort mr chair i'd like to introduce our traffic engineer derek bailey who will walk you through the process we've been very excited about this one this is uh the end game here is that we would end up with an active transportation planning grant uh that and he'll tell you about that uh back to council for that so we've been developing this process with the mesa for a long time when so it was eight years ago that when uh no not don't do the math don't worry about it so that was the time when we really had to listen to the to the mesa residents and see what they needed for that road now that the city was in control of that road so that process has been building for multiple years and now we're ready to we brought this before you to you before before we went to the residence now we've done that and we're coming back on our stop to council so take it away good evening everyone um as rob mentioned my name's derek bailey i'm with the city's traffic engineering group as rob mentioned we've been getting feedback from the mesa neighborhood for a long time about what they want cliff drive to look like and changes to cliff drive was really a driving force for the relinquishment of cliff drive from caltrans the neighborhood just really felt strongly that the city would be willing to make changes that caltrans wouldn't and we are we're willing to work with them and transform the street uh into something that's based on their vision so we've been getting all this feedback ever since two thousand and thirteen and the thing we keep hearing over and over again  crosswalks safer bike lanes or bike paths and better just better safety for everyone cliff drive is a really fast moving street it's a busy street so when collisions do happen they tend to be quite severe and consequently cliff drive is a vision zero corridor vision zero is a is the city's policy um that looking into the future we want to get to a place where severe are not happening on city streets and as long as cliff drive is happening they're operating the way it is today severe collisions are likely to continue to repeat themselves just as they have in the past so all that being said um getting all sorts of feedback from the neighborhood on what they want cliff drive to look like funding has always been a challenge the improvements that the neighborhood wants to see are expensive uh cross paths you know they're all very expensive features each crosswalk would probably cost two to three hundred thousand dollars um so just order magnitude they are going to be quite expensive improvements so funding has been a challenge looking forward and twenty we have a the next cycle of the active transportation program coming up and we think that we stand a really good chance of putting forth a successful application for cliff drive and one of the important reasons  for that is the las pacitis pathway is going to be under construction next year that provides a lot of momentum in that area of town for new active transportation facilities and we think with an application to the active transportation program they're going to look really favorably upon cliff drive as just a continuation of the new project on las positas so as we're thinking forward to the year two thousand and twenty and the application that we're going to be doing we started doing some outreach this past summer we wanted to check back in with the neighborhood just to confirm that everything we've been hearing as far as crosswalks and bike paths and safety for all but that's still the case so in june we we came to you the transportation circulation committee just to let you know what our plans are um at the time right around that same time the city council approved some funding for a traffic engineering study of some of the more challenging intersections along cliff drive specifically looking at whether or not roundabouts would be appropriate at some of those  intersections in july we met with coast in july we got the study results back from the the roundabout study and i'll be talking about that shortly we met with the mason neighborhood in august we met with santa barbara city college board a public workshop uh to review the concept that was put together so based on all the feedback that we got over the summer we heard very strong support for frequent crosswalks a two way bike path that was one of the questions we were wrestling with um over the summer is what's what's going to be a better facility for the community uh one way bike paths on either side of the road or a two way bike path uh on one side of the road and we heard pretty loud and clear from the community that they like the idea of a two way bike path and we also heard from the community that there is strong support for moving forward with an application next summer so just a diagram overview of the corridor itself and what we're looking at the bike path is planned to begin at henry's beach in the western western end of the corridor through the new roundabout where it'll connect to the las positas bike path it'll be under construction in the spring up the hill through the mesa neighborhood and all the way over to castillo street so over three miles uh we're planning based on feedback from the neighborhood for seven new crosswalks and three new traffic signals on cliff drive so there'll be a total of ten better crossing locations than there are today and we also heard on that on shoreline drive this is a location that the community would like a better crosswalk to get across the street there's a entrance to the back of washington school right up salina del sol from that location and a better crosswalk at that location would provide better access between the neighborhood and la mesa park so that is what a two way bike path will look like the um the entire cliff drive corridor it's going to be split about half and half where the the bike path will be down in the street like this is shown right here separated from traffic by uh some sort of raised median like is shown here this is a bike path in orange county and then about half the corridor will look like uh the beach way this is uh the north side of cabrillo east cabrillo where the the bike path runs along the north side so it'll be a combined sidewalk and bike path that'll be up at sidewalk level we we  will be planning a more generous buffer though between traffic and and the bike path and as shown here though so some of the technical details that we've run into the roundabouts are not feasible and i'll show you some pictures and explain why but this is kind of the one of the first opportunities that we've had to say this in public just that roundabouts are not feasible at the intersections we were studying therefore were concentrating on traffic signals at those intersections moving forward to a bike path that was strongly supported by the community it does have some safety challenges that we're going to have to be very mindful of in the design there's going to be  medians needed on cliff drive between migs and communal coma and i'll talk more about that in the presentation and as well we're looking at raised crosswalks across the stop sign controlled crossings and i'll show you why as well so one of the challenging intersections that we looked at with the traffic engineering consultant was mesa lane and flora vista the reason this is such a challenging intersection is because it's offset you can see mesa lane comes in about one hundred feet west of on the top of the screen and mesa lane is on the bottom what happens at this intersection the way the traffic signal cycles is it serves one side of the road it serves mesa lane and then flora vista and while those two side streets are being served the light is red for cliff drive and traffic just queues and queues and queues and if this was just a standard intersection where the streets lined up with one another that light wouldn't have to be red for so long on cliff drive and the queues wouldn't get so long the reason that matters is because for space in order to get a bike path through here we were really hoping to be able to go down to one lane through this intersection and it was it was a desirable feature for the community too because they felt as though it would create a calmer environment slower speeds more safety but the drawback with going down to one lane with the way this intersection is configured is we're going to end up with seven hundred foot long queues during the pm peak and that's that's a really a tough pill to swallow and we don't think at the end of the day that that's going to be very well received by the community so we are looking at maintaining the existing lane configuration going through this intersection  consultant did sketch together a couple mini roundabouts configuration but realistically this would probably be quite confusing for the public and wouldn't operate very well so we we  quickly moved on from this idea another challenging intersection is the driveway at santa barbara city college the west campus in cliff drive again another intersection that we asked the traffic engineering consultant to study for a roundabout there's basically two options a roundabout or a traffic signal to improve operations at the intersection we challenged the consultant to really reduce the foot print of the roundabout as much as possible so that it could fit and they did that um apologize for the graphic the the way they did this is they just laid tissue paper over top of an ariel and just began um sketching but even with this reduced footprint roundabout what we run into is this is just the roadway edge this doesn't even include the sidewalks starts to extend over into the southeast quadrant and that's a creek habitat area and the drop off from the intersection is quite steep through there so realistically this just isn't feasible because of the  and the most challenging intersection along the corridor is loma alta drive which is where the yellow crosswalks are surrounding this there's mckinley school and as well this is the main entrance for santa barbara city college east campus and the driveways to this intersection are really tightly spaced uh and that and there's a curve in the road it's actually a really awkward layout right now um we asked the traffic engineering consultant if there's a way to try to improve operations at these two tightly spaced intersections they start off by just taking a template for a roundabout and just kind of plopping it on the intersection just to get a idea of size wise what we're looking at and you can see before even digging into too many details you know we're getting quite far towards the school we're getting into some topography issues on the northwest and southwest corners so right off the bat we knew this was going to be a challenge just size wise and on top of that is the spacing the really tight spacing to that east campus driveway this is a concept they came up with in order to make the intersection operate or the two intersections operate as one functionally this would probably work really well but space wise um this is getting into some challenging topography uh this isn't even showing the sidewalks that would surround the the intersection so um building those would be a challenge we'd be definitely getting into some quite significant retaining walls and this doesn't even accommodate bus stops which are very busy bus stops serving these campus so given the likely expense with an intersection like this and the limited benefits we quickly discarded this as well so all of the locations now were focusing on traffic signals instead of roundabouts so based on all the public feedback and the results of the the studies that were done for the roundabouts we put some sketches together that was our best effort to reflect what the community had told us and last thursday we had a meeting at monroe elementary  we pasted all of the sheets together from one end of the multi purpose room to the other and we just had people go around and look at it and give us their comments we had some really great feedback we had a really good turnout generally there was a lot of support for the the the path we'll run along the south side of cliff drive past the roundabout the roundabout was built to accommodate this we were thinking ahead to this in the future this will be a location where the path that goes up shown here at the top of the screen will tie into the the path so pedestrians and cyclists will just use the crosswalks going around the roundabout to get from one pathway to the  other starting to go up the hill this is where the ealings park entrance is off of cliff drive this is a location we did get some feedback people are wondering how would i get from the path to the ling's park entrance we really don't have a good answer yet it is an awkward place to cross the road the road's curving it's downhill so speeds are high we do expect speeds will come down somewhat once we go down to one lane in this section  are planning both a bike path and on street bike lanes the bike lanes will double as a shoulder an important shoulder for safety and maneuverability for traffic as well but we we don't expect that the higher speed cyclists are going to want to use the bike path and mix with the slower speed users so especially going up and down the hill here providing them with a shoulder area that they can use of their own will be important we did get a question on whether or not parking could be added to this section of cliff drive we did get some feedback that some of the neighbors in the allen road neighborhood would like some parking removed in that neighborhood and moved on to cliff driv as a way to maintain coastal access upon looking closer at it there just doesn't appear to be enough room here and there's probably some downsides to having parking on cliff drive as well besides the space issues it might become an attractive nuisance it is an awkward street to accommodate parking on just given the speeds and traffic so it's not something that we're going to be pursuing so just summarizing this uh this segment um we got feedback that we should add crosswalk flashers at allen road a very reasonable request and we're going to incorporate that into the plan i brought up the parking on cliff east of the roundabout there were some questions about whether or not we should have trees and that median separation between the uh the bike path and cliff drive that's something that once we move into the design phase and we have a landscape architect on board and the project is being reviewed by the vista and as i mentioned the the challenge with going down to one lane through this intersection is going to be cueing and we expect seven hundred foot long queues will happen during the pm peak if we go down to one lane the trade off is that we are going to lose a few parking spaces by maintaining two lanes in between cooper and mohawk which is in this area in the bottom right hand side of the  screen we did get some comments from the public that they would prefer to see those parking spaces maintained and that would mean going down to one lane and the trade off would be the really long queues so that's something we're wrestling with right now would be our recommendation to go with this type of traffic configuration but that's something a detail that can be worked out during design as to whether or not we maintain parking or go down to one lane but it is a pretty significant sacrifice and capacity at the intersection what we heard about this intersection that it's confusing so there are some things that we can do to make it more obvious there are some things that we can do to make it safer as well and we will incorporate that into the project talked about the loss of parking and how some residents would prefer us go down to one lane in each direction and the center turn lane that would be incorporated into the project was strongly supported the we did have some options for connections to monroe school at the public meeting that we had in the summer that we attended at the mesa there were some questions about well how are we going to get from monroe school to the path and so we took a closer look at that apologize for the scale here but this is flora vista this is the main entrance to monroe school so our idea is to widen the sidewalk along the east side of monroe currently flora vista is about forty feet wide  wider than a standard city street so we could pretty easily widen that sidewalk and from five to nine feet and still have a standard width city street we could even plant some trees in the parking aisle to provide some separation from between the sidewalk and moving traffic and that was pretty well supported also supported was some curb extensions at the red rose and flora vista intersection we heard a lot of comments from people that drivers come flying down the hill on flora vista and the stop sign compliance isn't very good so that would help and then the other thing that we are proposing is to do some sidewalk infill on red rose between fellowship and almost all the way to flora vista there's only about one hundred feet of sidewalk and then it just ends these homes they all face into the cul de sac and the this curb that's along the south side of red rose once you're beyond that curb it just drops down into people's backyards pretty rapidly so we would actually have to build the sidewalk within the existing roadway footprint but again this is a forty foot wide road we could build a narrow five foot wide sidewalk maintain parking on both sides which we heard parking overflow parking for the school especially during school events is important here this got good feedback too but maintaining parking was something important to folks in this section so what we heard bitter sidewalks along flora vista supported the sidewalk along sidewalk infill along red rose was supported but parking should be maintained and the intersection crosswalk improvements and red rose were also strongly supported  between mohawk and lighthouse this is getting the section near the shopping center this is it oliver and this is a this is a standard intersection configuration that we're planning um due to some of the safety issues associated with a two way bike path we are recommending that if the project moves forward that we include raised crosswalks at the intersections and that's going to be important to improve visibility of cyclists and but also to slow drivers down as they're going across the path uh this shows a new crosswalk at oliver which was strongly supported and as well this shows a bus pocket and this is pretty typical of our concept designs along the court or having crosswalks near bus stops this is an example of a raised crosswalk this is a pedestrian only raised crosswalk this is an example likely of what our project would look like so this is shows a slight raise as the bike path goes through the intersection of course it's got the the green highlights to improve his ability  this section here in front of the shopping center we got the most feedback for this section and this is probably the most complicated section uh within the project this section between camino comma which is the intersection on the left hand side of the screen and migs which is the intersection on the right hand side of the screen currently has the highest concentration of collisions in the corridor so we've already got safety issues going on in this section and we need to be very sensitive  about introducing a bike path because we could be introducing some new safety problems so we need to take steps to correct the existing safety problems and protect users that are going to be on the bike path in looking at the collision pattern a lot of the collisions are involving drivers pulling out of private driveways trying to turn left and just thinking about introducing a bike path into the mix and potential users of that bike path eliminating those left turns from the private drives is really something that we need to do to protect users of the path and to get rid of that existing collision pattern  just to make make the make the whole area safer we do that by building medians down the middle of this section there would be opportunities to turn left into businesses but leaving businesses they would have to go down to the next intersection and for example with the shopping center they could exit onto communal comma and turn left at a new traffic signal or if they're along the south side they could turn right and make  turn at the intersection so that is a pretty big change we did get a lot of comments and concerns about that but it's really an essential feature to this project and if we can't make this section safe we don't have a project we can't move forward so we hear the concerns and that's the trade off is in order to move forward with this project we need to do something about the safety issues here oh this didn't show up very well this is a aerial diagram that shows the existing collisions that are happening over a five recent five year period out there and what this is trying to illustrate is all of the collisions um and many of them are involving people trying to turn left from the private driveways and it is a busy area so it stands to reason that you're trying to turn left into a busy street that there are going to collisions and in fact that is showing up so uh just summarizing again what we heard um most comments were in this section concerns about the medians uh we did get just a general comment there needs to be more bike parking in the area with the shopping center and certainly if we were to build a bike path which we would expect to be very successful the need for bike parking would increase and there was support for a new traffic signal at communal calm at the western end of the shopping again a typical layout this is its salida del sol so this is again just north of the back entrance to washington elementary new crosswalk which was very well supported and again  a bus pull out so this would provide good access for the bus stop as well the parkway in this area we could have a widened parkway probably eight or nine feet wide separating the bike path from moving traffic and with the parkway that wide we could introduce some street trees which would probably have a calming effect on the  corridor across the streets from santa fe this section right here it's about six hundred feet long and it does have the highest density of private driveways so there wouldn't be an opportunity to have much for street trees in this area if we were to maintain parking we assumed that most of the homeowners along here would want to maintain parking in front of their homes there were some concerns about how would we back out of our driveway across a bike path and so that's something we'll have to familiarization so what we heard in this section there was strong support for the new crosswalks there were concerns about maneuvering in and out of private driveways across the bike path and there was a concern over the narrowing of side streets at the bike path and actually i'm just going to back up so i illustrate that i forgot to mention that this is a toledo del sol you can see we are necking the intersection down slightly again that's an essential feature to this project these crossings of major driveways and intersections are where conflicts are going to happen and we need to make sure they're as safe as possible what we don't want to have happen is somebody trying to turn left from one of the side streets waiting and somebody passing them on the right and we all do it rolling through stop signs we try not to but if somebody's turning trying to turn left and somebody were to roll through a stop sign as a pathway user were going through the intersection that that would be a really bad mix so um again this is another essential feature of the project for safety but there there were comments about that section would be up at sidewalk level so it would be combined with the sidewalk be really generously wide you probably have about a fifteen to sixteen foot wide pathway through the section lighting is probably extra important in this section given students and evening classes to make them feel comfortable and a new traffic signal at the city college west campus driveway this is the loma alta intersection the existing traffic signal this section is where we have to open back up to two lanes in each direction just for traffic capacity reasons because we need to maintain most of the width on cliff drive we would have to get into the berm that's along the south side of the road but the city does have plenty of right of way along there we could build a really wide parkway we could have trees straddling the pathway again it could be wide fourteen feet so this could be a really great place to walk and bike along and this is again loma alta and the city college east campus driveway where there would be a new traffic signal some changes here one of the things that we heard from city college is the existing bus stop there's a bus pull out westbound cliff drive just before the intersection when students get off the bus they come across the intersection music there's quite a mass of them and what they do is they enter the college campus and they walk down the driveway in front of the admin building city college staff they're they're quite concerned about the safety of their students it is a busy driveway so there's quite a mix of deliveries access to one of their main parking areas and introducing pedestrians into that area they do have some concerns they would prefer students to be over here on the right hand side of the screen which guides pedestrians more into the main entrances where the classrooms are so the concept would be to actually eliminate the crosswalk on this side move the bus stop closer to that new traffic signal at the east campus driveway and have the crosswalk here they would cross and they would enter the college campus closer to where city college is trying to get people to walk in that space where the bus pocket was we could fill it in landscape trees we could widen the sidewalk for a few hundred feet up to mckinley school which would create a better walking environment from the lower west neighborhood to mckinley school the bus stop for eastbound would be maintained in the existing location the path would meander around it there's some existing visibility problems exiting this driveway when there are buses stopped here so this traffic signal would correct that so keeping the bus stopped there with convenient access right into the campus would work really  well what we heard in this section there was strong support for the new traffic signals and there was concern for uh there was one private driveway near oceano again maneuvering across the bike path but uh that's something we can address that right committee member blackerby yes given the really tight spacing of these two intersections there would have to be really good coordination between them so if a driver on cliff drive drives through the first intersection we'd want them to clear the second intersection we would run into red light running problems if we didn't provide for that so that will be an essential feature good coordination between those two uh and finally the the final section um the east campus driveway to castillo street so this is what we call the viaduct section so along the north side of cliff drive right here that's the giant retaining wall and the lower west neighborhood is sits at the lower elevation we would have to go down to one lane going uphill we would maintain two lanes going downhill that would be important for capacity this eastbound movement going towards street gets quite busy during the pm peak and just for stacking reasons alone we would need to maintain the two lanes but by going down to one lane uphill that would provide us with enough room to widen the pathway to i think about fourteen feet and provide a parkway for some separation seems like lighting would be a good feature in this section as well this is the rancheria intersection so this would provide  connection point from the pathway to the new bike lanes that were recently installed on and this is the section approaching castillo street we would have to maintain the existing number of traffic lanes in this area just due to capacity reasons but all the lanes that are out there right now are quite wide they were built to caltran standards many years ago we think we can gain about eight feet of street width so we could widen the the sidewalk and provide a small parkway in this area by adding eight feet to the existing  sidewalk the path would end at castillo street this location we envisioned short term there being a left turn staging bike box so that cyclists could go up castillo street a little bit longer term we do have a  funded project through the measure a program to study castillo street and improve the connection between haley through this area so we do anticipate future improvements will tie into this so what we heard uh for this section there's concern about the castillo connections obviously we see this as a short term solution and long term we would improve the connections up and down castillo street and there showed this to the neighborhood at the meeting last thursday and there was good support for that crosswalk as well so that completes my presentation i'm just going to walk you through where we go from here so we're in fall two thousand nineteen there's some tweaks there's minor tweaks that we need to do the design based on the feedback that we received there's going to be continuing public outreach we've received a lot of emails and feedback even since the meeting last week so we're going to be  continuing to communicate with residents we have some coordination to do with mtd city college and sb unified school district as well just to make sure that those features are dialed in heading into the the gr application by february we expect to go to city council so that they give their approval for us moving forward with the grant application spring we're going to be preparing that grant application and by december next year we'll know the results and we we expect success so that by summer of two thousand and twenty one we'll be moving into design and it'll probably take about four years to design and deliver so with that i'd be happy to answer any questions i apologize i moved pretty quick there this has been a it's a long corridor and there is a lot of stuff along it so even at the the public meeting last week um you know it was a lot for people to take in and we were continuing to get emails asking questions hey i thought of this so um but overall the the response has been really great thank you it's so comprehensive i'm i'm very increase safety in front of the shopping area and but it's just one of of many improvements uh you're to be commended for the comprehensive nature from henry's to castillo it's just it's a big yes well thank you so much for that and it's it is overwhelming to hear that so fast you know for so much covering so many intersections everything but i live on the mesa and have been hit twice in the last several years by someone turning left and um including about two weeks ago at camino coma so this is really practical and the numbers of the accidents is like way higher than you have records of because when i got hit that way someone was turning left in front right in front of me ran right into me called the police and they couldn't take the call because there were no injuries and they had eleven calls before ours so we didn't have the police come obviously so there's no police record so just to sit to validate that that is a really difficult area that whole area there especially left turns and it's gotten it feels to me like it's gotten so much more traffic in the last year and a half and um i don't know if that's true but i know i have to wait a lot longer to turn to come out of those driveways in that area and i'm just so happy that this is in process because it's so needed and and like i say you know two accidents and that where i was hit you know in the last couple years it's more dangerous than you even think so thanks for your work good evening committee members and chair my name is barry remiss and i'm with coast the coalition for sustainable transportation and it's uh it's even more of a challenge to make a comment on this comprehensive plan in two minutes but wow this is really impressive and we have to say that um i'm hoping i'm speaking on behalf of the board and all the staff at coast that we wholeheartedly support your decision to move this forward to city council we really want to applaud the staff for embry totally embracing the vision zero uh policy and strategy and the mantra behind it they've really come out with guns blazing with with respect to trying to take every opportunity as possible to really be able to apply vision zero principles in maximizing our pedestrian bicyclist and motor vehicleist motor vehicleist safety here just all road users specifically we really want to encourage your endorsement of the the safety improvements  to improve access at our schools both monroe and mckinley the ability to be able to widen sidewalks to be able to implement curb extensions uh really can help improve our safe routes to school access which we really applaud that at this it's amazing just to see what really i'm going to call this class one multi use path because i look at this as we look at this as more than just a bike path but obviously it's multi users that'll be traversing this entire corridor from henry's beach all the way down to castillo and it's just fantastic to see this really come to fruition on this design one element or one suggestion i'd like to point out is at the new intersection the where the new traffic signals might be especially at the east entrance the main entrance to city we would anticipate or hope that we would somehow try to prevent bus riders students etc as they exit the bus from traversing that multi use path to enter the the the front of the of the uh the university  college so we're hoping that they will move over to the crosswalk cross meigs and then enter the entrance of the college so in the design if there's a way to help with screening landscaping etc so that they don't just simply run across the multi use path unless they want to walk on the multi use path to get there and that's another option too we just want to make to optimize the safety there would be great to avoid conflicts but overall this is a wonderful plan we applauded all the lighting as as well to really to really take this to that complete streets level you know even though this isn't such an urban setting to really incorporate both the lighting the landscaping this the trees were possible and and potentially even to i don't know if it's scope creep but to also maybe consider little parklets type areas where you know benches and furniture could be added to really give this much more much really such the community vibe that it that it well deserves and i would imagine that that might be embraced by the community as well but we encourage your support of this plan to move it forward and we really look forward to it coming to fruition thank you sorry please okay just one more thing um that i've noticed over the years is there's no bike parking where i need to go on the mesa and i don't see it hardly anywhere and like if i want to go to the grocery store there's nothing no parking there that i can't lock my bike anywhere and and i'd look around and i don't see any places hardly at all to park up there so i'm i i see that there's one little note about someone put in about parking and i just wondered what is the situation with getting some parking for bikes a community member heard that's a great question we're limited to what we can do on private property unless there's some redevelopment that happens that would uh trigger the need for more but um given the generous width that we might have at some of our parkway locations out there it certainly seems like adding more parking adjacent to businesses is certainly a possibility and uh that's something we're going to be studying based on that feedback right i like to see benches and things but bikes that doesn't help biking  milestone and so should all be really proud of this um and especially the team and engineering and planning and stuff that went into building this i attended the the workshop at monroe last week and to see the whole extent of it laid out on the table is amazing it's such i mean i see why you didn't want all these lane miles under city care at first but now the the beautiful thing is you're gonna get to do all these things um if funded the other thing that's super important about this um and you are so good at getting these atp grants and i see this every single time but you know once you get this with the way the census is going to change things most likely the city is going to get thrown into the big pond we're the big fish in the small pond that keeps taking everybody's money so they think from other jurisdictions right and so we've gotten we've gotten pretty far on it but we're going to be competing against really big big areas with much larger planning engineering staffs than this city has so fingers crossed knocking on wood really hopeful that um and you have a good system of scoring your own projects and everything but um really needs community support to to make sure that this happens and to link it up with  project that that got funded from atp for las pesita so it's really exciting um i appreciate the work that staff has done both out in the community speaking to homeowners but also all the stakeholders because there's so many in this area and it's my hope that this project queues up for city college to do something with their terrible layout of the front of their campus they admit this as well right but the circulation on campus if queue this up this is all fine and dandy but it's still bad just past the public right of way so um or the city right away so i'm hopeful that they will you know take this to maybe if this is fun to go along and have a kind of parallel design process um which would be which would be great so um i know there's still some details what mr ramus mentioned about kind of all the details about how pedestrians flow and bikes flow in this area um but i'm sure that'll get worked out with your final kind of meetings and everything so i just want to say congratulations and good luck and look forward to celebrating not just the ribbon uh maybe the second from last snapshot where rancheria street terminates i know we had talked about this a little bit i'm thinking about the inter the interface between city college like mrs  had pointed out of uh city college is part of the bargain in terms of that all these investments so so right now the challenge for rancheria is getting to city college either through all the way around uh castillo down to uh shoreline or city college has been trying to do some work basically just at the bottom left edge of that on that path could you say just a little bit more about that potential connectivity utilizing like a sort of left turn and then utilizing the path and then shifting off  path onto where there is some bike parking currently at santa barbara city college and then also an unpaved connector france thank you um currently along the south side of well this is cliff drive where it turns into montecito street but on the south side of this intersection uh the only thing that's there is about a four foot wide sidewalk and it's it's really narrow and it's uncomfortable and off the back side of the path there's a railing but it drops off into a really shallow drainage area um this would widen the sidewalk area to about thirteen feet so it would be quite generous in width to be a lot more comfortable you know if you're waiting at the intersection trying to get street coming down towards city college there'd be a really generous area accepting pedestrians or cyclists and just immediately west of this intersection there is a landing area kind of at the bottom of the hill from city college and it's quite well used um bike parking area it's also a space where the path takes off up the hill so it seems like there's good opportunity there for future connections  both alongside pershing park and up into the campus area whoops if i could just be sentimental for a moment um i remember the mesa neighborhood talking about this concept like fifteen years ago and people were thinking about using the the current median and just like putting a multi use path like down the median it was all very like you know we could do something but the technical uh element was was totally lacking right because you couldn't just run a class one bike path down  the middle of a four lane roadway but the vision from the community was there um i think that uh much like uh  the the transportation team presented to uh the county association of governments ttac it was a transportation technical advisory committee on like hey this is how we're approaching atp grants i think like this project would be a great presentation of here's how we're approaching the neighborhood and the public process both from a technical and from a you know just just resident outreach and customer outreach uh standpoint because i think the steps that you laid out for a grant that we're gonna apply for are pretty amazing and i think it really reflects like a great example of working with a community so it's that earnest community desire that you all now have the technical capacity to potentially deliver so thank you i think this is really an amazing project for the mesa neighborhood and for the the california coastal trail i think that it's also a great way for the city to honor santa barbara city college's commitment to um to being a multimodal campus and really improving bike transit and walking mo chair i think this is really going to help deliver and honor the investments that they've made in their is it the tap program transportation alternatives at santa barbara city college oh yeah sbcc commute sbcc commute has been great for faculty and staff and for students and that's something that i think this is going to just help take to the next level quite a lot of technical challenges but i really appreciate how you all have shown how you've looked at what's feasible and what's not and please include that in the presentation to t tac in terms of like hey you said check this out we did here were the results it's amazing how often that doesn't happen in transportation planning and in community outreach people just feel like their ideas went into a black hole and you just demonstrating like we looked at this and here's why we can't do it has bought i think a ton of community credibility and trust and so thank you i honestly i think there's like a thoroughness to the process that is paying off there's nobody with you know the angry mob with pitchforks here because the community feels heard and included um castillo between haley and montecito because these are areas that are very heavy with pedestrians and bikes and people trying to get to the beach and and this city college and the harbor and so i think that this investment of time and process is very well placed and uh and good luck blackerby seeing this intersection again reminded me i really like the kind of skip track green lane piece of this um and it it made me think and i've brought it up with with you before but in the in the extents of the project back up cliff that are sort of longer where it's just like you know lanes there's not a bunch of there's some there's driveways but there's not a bunch of um it's pretty much residential on both sides um i the thing that keeps hanging me up and that i think about especially for right with a with a facility like this you're hoping it's not just the intrepid like cyclists who'll bike anywhere right but that it's families and things like that or just people who are a little less sure and they may get more shares than the more they bike my the thing that keeps coming up for me is if you're on the bike path and you're wanting to get home work whatever you want to get back home say and you live on the north side of of cliff are there going to be there are obviously a couple markings that make it clear to those cyclists how they should cross the street we know what we'd like for them to do probably or what they could do but as we know human behavior doesn't always foll i just want to make it as clear as possible and and find out in other areas other cities what kind of treatments have they used to make this so that you don't go oh god what do do i need to get in the lane do i do um even though i'm pretty confident on my bike have you did did anyone bring that up at me am i the only one who thinks this and also have you seen other treatments in other places where it makes it clear what people should do or what we want them to do community member blackerby um you are the only one that's brought it up but it's it's a valid concern there are going to be frequent crosswalks that we would hope people use um you know they're generally going to be every five to seven hundred feet apart so it's not going to be nearly as long between good crossing points on cliff drive as there is right now but as far as a specific treatment to encourage cyclists to use that or what to do at locations where there aren't a crosswalk we haven't quite wrapped our heads around that yet once we get into design we are going to a more comprehensive look at other facilities and other jurisdictions and latch on to any best practices that we can find from them because this this intersection kind of made me think oh interesting  it has that it's pretty close on the west side they're pretty close the skip track thing is pretty close to the intersection of kind of having a for lack of a better term like a bike crosswalk right up against the ped crosswalk that at least shows people one shows motorists hey there might be a bike crossing here and two you know cyclists like maybe go here don't plow through the pedestrians and maybe you don't have to dismount so i don't know if that's able to be used in those other places but it's it's the first thing i've seen where i'm like oh maybe that could work so one of the the challenges is generally along the north side of cliff drive there aren't a lot of bike facilities heading up them they're probably not going to be have a really high demand from them so the demand is really stretched out over a long area so we're going to have to be thoughtful about how best to do that are there any other comments or questions from the committee thank you very much for your presentation um this is a we were to hear the presentation um where there will be no action taken at this time as i understand it that's correct  move on then to the west side and lower west side neighborhoods transportation management plan mr chair committee members so we have the in public works we have been doing really interesting work with neighborhoods and you may recall the success we had with the east side neighborhood where we did a plan with them a neighborhood plan and walked through them in a process and then there's been almost twenty million dollars invested in that neighborhood since that time over decades and a lot of things that came out of that were the active transportation planning grants that happened on the east side that came out of that neighborhood planning process so we set out to do a neighborhood planning process on the west side for similar preparation for the active transportation planning grants and then also just to to for the vision zero strategy that we're putting together is is now everything that's our banner is vision zero strategy how do we reduce serious uh serious injury collisions and include deaths that result in traffic collisions so we continue that work and jessica grant will walk you through the whole process and and what we did and this is on on a stop to city council that we would be going to them at the end of this year to have them  officially and formally approve the plan for the west side thank you members good evening jessica grant supervising transportation planner and we just had a journey through the mesa and now i'm going to take you on a journey through the west side and our west side neighborhoods this evening and we have been on this journey for through the west side and lower west side since march is when we announced the planning effort and these planning efforts are designed on purpose to move through  community input and action in a short amount of time and what i'm excited tonight is really we've we've got to the milestone of the actual draft plan so it's it's very exciting the meeting purpose tonight is to find the plan consistent with the city's vision zero strategy a circulation element pedestrian master element and bicycle master plan and just for those that may be watching at home on the just to define the west side and lower west neighborhoods the west side neighborhood is roughly bounded to the north by las positas to the east by highway one  andreas and loma alta and really the whole purpose of this planning effort is to respond to neighborhood livability by addressing pedestrian bicycle and traffic related concerns and also implementing the city's vision zero strategy so where we're in the planning effort there's to get to the the physical plan itself as we first began with the neighborhood to uh hold a listening workshop that was held in april of this year we also followed up with a supplemental survey for residents to either add additional since the listening workshop or those that couldn't attend a workshop to participate in a survey as well as people contacted me mostly via email as well and then as a separate and parallel process we were doing the vision zero of traffic safety analysis all of those oops three components fed into the approaches and that's when we returned back to the committee um community in june to say okay do these approaches did they address your concerns in addition to what we were seeing in the collision patterns we received comments again at that approach workshop and then basically over the the summer time began for staff just to synthesize everything into a plan that that you have before you tonight and again this is just the cover of the draft plan but it really besides getting to infrastructure improvements it really describes the whole process that we went through so how the neighborhood participated all the input they provided again our vision zero analysis and then a safety prioritized action plan this in prior meetings but i did want to again touch base on the neighborhood input so this is just some images from the workshop that was held in april these are the themes that we addressed uh discussed with the residents that we sought feedback on with driving walking bicycling neighborhood lighting transit and parking the image to the right is just  an example of one exhibit that we use just to as a base map for residents to provide feedback on what we heard from the listening workshop was there was rules of the road concerns there's difficulty navigating certain intersections within the neighborhoods there is maintenance issues infrastructure needs and parking concerns not going to read that that's just  out of the music the plan where we discussed the various themes that uh that came out of the survey a lot of the themes that came out of the survey essentially affirmed what we were hearing in the the listening workshop and  then the vision zero safety analysis what did we find with the collision data and what were the themes so i'll spend a few moments to discuss those this is an example this is something typical that we've done and that you've seen just city wide of the the heat map this is specific to both of the lower west and west side neighborhoods and the heat map just shows the  color is where you would see most collisions followed by the orange yellow and then green areas again where there had been documented collisions the areas in white is where we didn't have any records of collisions and you can see here the predominant areas of collisions happening in these neighborhoods is along carrillo street specifically carrillo and san andreas and then also at the intersection of san andreas and mitchell terena where there is an existing traffic signal that location as far as for the mitchell terena and san andreas intersection that was the highest number of involved collisions and this is where there's about at least over two hundred crossings per day at this particular intersection and going to the career in san andreas i'll talk to it there's besides that we have just a general heat map of collisions but we also take it one step further is there anything also happening for night time collisions the yellow dots happen just there the they seem fairly prominent it's just the street lighting that exists there it's not the collisions i just yes not the uh came out of that is the creon san address there was the highest frequency of injury related crashes at night time um and the pattern was broadside collisions at that  intersection mission was another area where there is collisions it was again if you compared it a little bit cooler daytime or just overall but  there wasn't a detectable pattern other than those particular collisions were dui related and then comparing the our vision zero traffic safety analysis heat map and then uh we also overlaid well what were we hearing from the community to see if there was any overlap and that um and the from the data and what we were hearing and um i would say that it was uh pretty well correlated to what we were seeing in the collision data so again with what we've heard the vision zero analysis then um becomes then the actual sort of then meet of the plan and that we have a vision zero focus explain go into a little bit more detail what that means and then what are the short term and near term improvements because this isn't um although we're having a stop point listening from the community right now we ve always are working in community as and so there is already things that we're addressing that i also wanted to document in the planned narrative as well and when i go over some of the improvements i'll be discussing uh what is happening in the next one to two years and then other like longer term improvements that do not have capital funding and then what what would it look like in terms of plan implementation to try to get uh but it's really vision zero is to eliminate all severe and fatal transportation related collisions in the city and to prioritize transportation uh safety i do want to read that there are seven core principles that we have related to vision zero and first is life is most important every person matters people make mistakes focus on dangerous locations and behaviors drivers have critical responsibility pedestrians and cyclists are the most vulnerable road users and the government shares responsibility for safe streets so w neighborhoods so what we found there was a there's three sort of emerging uh strategies to address uh again with the vision zero uh analysis and what we heard u the strategies are not in any particular order but the first one is improvements to make a walking experience safer and more inviting so the areas  in green are near term one to two years of of being implemented in the neighborhoods i will just quickly pause on a few of them so  documented a collision pattern history we have received funding already we're in design to improve that intersection that was well community was very happy that that intersection is under design and hoping to see improvements very soon and really that we'd have traffic signal improvements to have left turn arrows uh also if  with that intersection it's at a skew it's a very pedestrians have a lot of exposure in the roadway so uh it also calls for curb extensions to shorten that exposure and realigning a little of those crossing areas so we're trying to have the minimal this crossing distance and we're also looking at a crossing improvement too and long curio and sampa squall associated with that project if i take little bit south into the lower west they're at the corners of ortega um tampa squall ortega and cota streets and intersections that was something that we also heard a lot about and the short term proposal there is associated with what some of our payment maintenance projects is to install uh curb extensions there to again uh help with uh pedestrian mobility and then there's also some lighting improvements um i'll discuss too in a second for the long career for some upcoming lighting that's also associated with that project there are some other improvements at mission and gillespie that's associated with bicycle boulevards that are also in design right now that i'll discuss in a couple more slides so what's the remaining stuff the issue then the  greatest i would say levels of stress that we heard from the community and then documented in the collision data is crossing san andreas it's it's just a very uh it's the main commercial corridor and the west side a a lot is going on so if you see those purple dots along san andreas we are recommending curb extensions at those locations and and also installing again um just to ease those distresses walking through the neighborhood what we heard most about for like a sidewalk infill valerio got received a lot of comments at the workshops and it's their sidewalk in some locations others not but it is really we keep hearing over and over a need to infill sidewalk along that entire corridor all the way to getting to park is just because there is the draw of ailings park there that just to have a separated facility for pedestrians and then of course the other direction if you live on that street and you go to harlingen elementary again to have sidewalks along your route to school is very important then there's just other in indicated in red would be accessibility improvements such as access ramps and some other pieces of side walk in film that we wanted to also reflect in the plan moving on to the second strategy is neighborhood lighting improvements to enhance walking biking and driving experience as i mentioned with the improvements at san andreas and carrillo it is also a very large corridor lighting project for street lighting so it would start all the way at bass street go under the freeway which we've heard for not only this time for outreach but for many years of the lack of street lighting um in that intersection um and just as you approach the freeway and lots of utilities on those lines and then there's franchise agreements and it's not so easy to relocate the streetlight to lower it because then you'd be in violation with all the um we reflected as a need um in the plan again we're getting uh proposing to have those strong crossing improvements but we need the the pedestrian level lighting to go with it and then  we also heard this was sort of the if we i don't have the edison lighting map most of the lights in this neighborhood or edison lights it was there was lighting recently upgraded all the edison lights went from high pressure sodium to l  lighting which was a big improvement but then there's still gaps within the existing street lighting structure higher highlighted in this sort of green box area is between mission and islay streets and  chino streets and so it'd be working with edison to where there's poles where there's no lighting to erected light or a new edison pole as well so did we get everything for lighting requests for the neighborhood reflected on here not everything uh these were sort of the main takeaway points but we we still see and what i tried to what we tried to reflect in the plan that there's still going to be sprinkles of lighting needs that we have and and that just as we receive funding hopefully  improvements in this neighborhood that we're still continuing to look at some of the adjacent streets for example some of the areas for needed lighting center around near the boys and girls club and bonnet park so i do want to write that yet it's not forgotten and so narratively i tried to make reference to that in the plan so the last strategy is bicycle improvements to create safer routes to school and work what we've heard already because we had a pretty robust outreach as part of the bicycle master plan and then continuing to be affirmed uh with this outreach process as well is to have a really good north south connection along just the west side and lower west neighborhoods to get to schools get to the beach and then we also heard that there's needs to be a very strong connection leaving our the west side going to downtown into subsequent neighbors uh neighborhoods like the east side um what i wanted to touch on is we did receive an active transportation grant and and that we are currently under the traffic analysis and concept design stage for that  project that would put a stronger connection to downtown via mitchell to arena and sola but one of the things and what we had in the grant was to have a bicycle boulevard it's kind of dotted here along chino but as we were going through the traffic analysis as part of that grant this is what we were finding and this is i'm going to take a quick pause point here this is just a basic graphic of showing dominant vehicle patterns in the west uh west side and lower west neighborhoods one of the things that when we're doing this review and seeing how many vehicles pass through this it's the blue line here from coming from the mesa alta mesa neighborhoods is that there are a lot of vehicles bypassing the carrillo highway one hundred and one intersection it's already a very congested intersection and we don't see that intersection improving over time  probably anticipate it to worsen over time especially as the highway one hundred and one widening project comes online because we'll have even more users for the freeway so again we expect there's still to be strong vehicular patterns coming from korea onto chino and then mitchell terena so if we're trying to design a bicycle boulevard which is i don't think i defined it yet but it's just a low volume street of of cars where cars and cyclists can co exist and with the amount of traffic that's that that we're seeing now and that's anticipated there would have to be a lot of traffic diversion in the neighborhood if we were to keep chino as the bicycle boulevard so what we're looking at and what we also heard from the residents of what streets do you already bike on that you already feel are low stress we heard that uh gillespie which is the green line here uh is a good low stress street and and that's what we saw too in our this it's the lower half of chino the is about three zero vehicles um in the peak hours we were seeing so um we've been as part of the you were to continue north you would basically go right into the bicycle parking lot of the coomber junior high and the santa barbara community academy those are the two schools that exist at that  s and that's good so that that would again be a good north south connection but what happens if you're coming from modoc our concerns were would people take the route to if you if your destination is downtown so the other street that we heard and that people already like to use is san pasqual and um and that it's kind of so  we see gillespie as being the sort of neighborhood route and we see santa squall being a neighborhood and a crosstown route for cyclists so when we're looking at the treatments that would need to come online to ensure that it is a low volume street and have some traffic diverters crossing improvements etc what we're finding in order of magnitude is we can get two bicycle boulevards for the price of one so that's that's the good news so that's something that we're in discussions with caltrans and and subsequently the ctc to try to get that scope change one of the other elements is also in the lower west neighborhood is to the these certain sections along wentworth and rancheria again are already very low volume streets and there would just be minor improvements more in signage and striping for those streets and then of course as derek eventually the lower west neighborhood and that bicycle boulevard would go right into the new the cliff drive improvements that derek just discussed the last item is the modoc along the coomber junior high and santa barbara community academy so if i were to go back another dominant vehicle pattern is along modoc and what we're hearing from the residents is this yet continues to be a really busy street and there's just a lot of it feels higher stress for walking and biking along this corridor so what we're exploring what we received a measure a grant for is to evaluate a concept of a multi use path along this stretch of road between a long modoc between las positas and emission and as derek explained in the his uh presentation too that we are going to be having soon constructed the multi use path along um a certain section of modoc from kai de los amigos to the las positas intersection and then again varying down to the beach we're expecting more of users on that roadway and i think with the multi use path on that section of modoc there will be a continued or demand to get into the west side and so again we're looking at a multi use path along that stretch and then um also to wrap around the junior high multi use path and then that would lead you to gillespie if you're going into the the neighborhood as well so i have it's still in concept it's something in concept we're hearing good things about it from the residents but this is an area that we needed to survey which we're in the process of doing and we need to do a concept layout of what that looks like there are a lot of mature trees along that stretch and so we're just trying to see how much right away we have to work with and we're hoping to return to the community in january to discuss the concept further so essentially those three strategies and have folded in to the the plan and then for the short term and the long term infrastructure improvement list of all the goals and strategies among those various planning documents that you would need to find consistency with and i wanted to  so mr dayton was pointing out just that there's just a little cliff notes sheet of what the various policies are and that we're hoping that you find the plank assistant with these various strategies move the plan on for council approval i'll take another pause because given this plan like well okay these all sound fantastic and some are implemented are that are under like indesign that will come to the neighborhood soon uh but what what do we do with the other um seventeen million dollar need so i for actually oops i forget to put the page in but it's on page thirty four is the list of the summary of all the emerging projects if i were to summarize those this is what we'd be going after for the active transportation and highway safety improvement program grants in the spring so on opposite sides it's kai cannon i believe and then bike lane and bicycle improvements in the lower west side neighborhood and then the potential to add on also pending  and then the summary of already funded projects so yeah we have about just under seven million that is being invested in the lower west and west side neighborhoods now and then there's besides infrastructure related items there's things that shouldn't be ignored either and and that's what i uh we documented as additional plan items and and some of high like one of the highest levels for crossing improvements but yet there was an issue of left turning vehicles for pedestrians so one of the things that was to just do  it was we can we manipulated the signal to have it's called an lpi which is a leading pedestrian interval so all the vehicles are at a stop but a our field reviews was san andreas and the intersection of san andreas in victoria that is an intersection that goes directly into bonnet park on one leg of the intersection it was really hard to see oncoming vehicles especially when we do our field work we we purposely go at times when either schools going into session or in this case of was the school just recently got out and there's one thing for visibility for an adult but when you also see and field operations when you have a child trying to make that same cross it's it's very different and their their visibility know less than an adult so there was one thing that we quickly sent crews out to extend the red curb at that intersection and again in hopes to improve it even more with the curb extensions always ongoing steps we're here tonight this similar presentation will be held also at the neighborhood advisory council and then uh our goal is to be at city council by i believe the tentative date right now  is december th for anybody watching at home or have any comments uh i'm still always available via phone or email if there is uh we're always taking uh feedback and comments thank you very much ms grant that's a thorough presentation are there any questions amongst the committee yes mr mr france um thank you it's a great it's so cool to see this draft and uh anyway and especially in addition to laying out what's uh already funded what's to be applied for and the additional plan items how cool is it to have a draft plan that already has completed status items of issues that arose in a public process is really cool and and from different departments too right like yeah this is this is what it looks like when things are banos right so similar so i guess my question is uh how many of those lpis are there out there in the city and um i see them and observe them but i'm also wondering if we've gotten any kind of feedback mr bailey i don't know if there's it's a it's a cool thing uh that's it's be interesting just to see what how they're being  santa barbara is we run really short cycle lengths and so the cycle length is the amount of time it takes to cycle around and serve all the movements um one of the things that's good about running short cycle links is it tends to be very pedestrian friendly nobody has to wait very long it's actually good for traffic too if the traffic volumes can support that a lot of big cities struggle with that what tends to blow out cycle lengths to get them really long is when you have really wide intersections you have to time them for pedestrians crossing all the way around and if you have twenty or thirty second countdown timers going on plus it takes a long time to move all the the it delays the onset of green so the walk light turns on and it just holds the green for a few seconds and then it releases it but with our really short cycle lengths that can mean at times there's not enough green time for t through so we we use them sparingly and where we see operational issues we haven't used them as a blanket haven't done blanket implementation perhaps in the future but for now we're sticking to the locations where we have collision problems or um some sort of other operational issue and and have you gotten any operational feedback like from gutierrez traffic westbound left turn crashing into people in the crosswalk that's been a pattern some people on gutierrez street have commented that they lights come on and they feel like they want to go but it hasn't resulted in any other operational issues just uh comments and observations so nothing negative great thank you for uh answering that question i think i think it's great that the city both uh is taking on kind of some of these newer treatments or opportunities and also how you have the capacity to really like evaluate where the i learned the name of this because i go through that gutierrez intersection on my bike almost every day and i see that thing and i think it's awesome i remember reading somewhere and i don't know if this was a bill in process in the state legislature or if it actually is the law now but i read somewhere that there was a very least a proposal that cyclists could i don't know if it was if just they were going straight or what but that they could also um use that lpi as a way to start their turning movement so i will admit that in my mind i think it is the law because i think that's what i read so  do it every time and it makes me feel so much safer as a cyclist because i'm making that left turn onto state to go under and so many people are like just like revan getting ready to go and then just jam under that thing so it's awesome but it would also be good to know from an education perspective if that is in fact the law and if it's not then gosh darn it we should ask for them to bring it back and try to get through again but it is something i remember reading that makes a lot of sense kind of like a bike box without a box but but giving you that little lead time just if people knew that they could do that on their bike and not just when they're a pedestrian so we'll have to research that for you i not aware that it's the law but we'll find out there my understanding is that um we're to recommend that the plan is we're being asked to recommend the public that's right you had one here mr remiss please i thought it was three and four thank you back again uh barry remiss with coast um and uh we also as well with this plan um very impressive work um we realized this is draft obviously there's you know it'll more to evolve and but it's really this is great we're  certainly pleased at coast um to see the vision zero strategy being implemented as well and embraced here coast as well as our partners with sb bike were engaged in and coast co hosted a about last year a west pedestrian bike community safety workshop i don't get the can't don't ask me to make the acronym to correct here but uh we engaged with cal walks and um berkeley uh safe track and m well also as co partners to engage the the community in a listening well an active engagement workshop as well we also embarked upon the street on foot and on bike to walk the the neighborhoods and also coast is previously done through our east side and west side walks program some night walks as well with podesta with community members to get their feedback as well the results of that workshop were presented to the city and so we certainly hope that you've been able to factor those in as well as the listening workshops as  well to really make this a comprehensive plan so that the community members you've listened obviously and and to really help them to see that that's happened and you're taking action to help them to see that the city is just as equally engaged with the west side as it was for the east side traffic management transportation plan to provide lighting walking and pedestrian uh and bicyclist not only just access but safety improvements so that they feel that this is a safer community for them to live in and wow two bike boulevards the price of one that's like one stop shopping so this is really nice to see if i can also supplement hopefully derek won't mind me i believe that there's also another lpi at the intersection of d that you'll approve this and pass it on to city council thank you there is a staff recommendation that we find the plan consistent with the city's vision zero strategy circulation element pedestrian management plan and bicycle master plan to move the plan forward to the city council for approval discussion so it's awesome i love it two things in the plan and the draft plan on page fifteen and i appreciate that you have the survey actual survey questions attached to that um the question actually is about mode if i'm uh correct you actually ask people what the primary form of transportation they take was right that's the question the question is not what do you like best which do you favor but the way that this is just part of the way this is described says private cars and walking are most favored bus and carpool least favored you can probably imagine why that jumped out at me but generally a bike or walking because of all these projects right people this is what people are doing if they had a better setup or system they might be doing something else so not to nitpick language but since that's not what the question says what do you favor what do you do right so if that could be sort of clarified um and then the i attended the at least the first workshop i couldn't go to the approaches workshop but um what i appreciated was that there were you know the different maps for lighting and ped and bike um and there was one for transit which was great and i know that that's not the city's purview of those things but i noticed that that's not that the feedback of that is not in here so i'm just wondering if that's if that's possible or if it's i just wanted to be clear to the world that you did ask for that  and even if it's just the map and you say and we passed it on to mtd or whatever right i'm just curious why that didn't sort of make it into the final um okay plan briefly the committee member biker b um for the the most comments were just from the existing transit stops and the the reflected more in the additional plant items of uh more on maintenance needs and so some uh where there was existing bus shelters and lighting um maybe the lights were out or flickering or something and so it was  along those comments and then there was a smaller comments i believe like on mission street where there were some existing transit stops that there wasn't like a adjacent concrete pad it was just parkway um but you're right i can i can definitely articulate those um comments uh better committee member horn please  horn the account was one hundred and eighty uh just for the as a comparison for the the east side um i believe we received about two hundred and response but we were in the ballpark from our prior effort from the communications person that we worked with to help synthesize some of the survey findings he he said that that was a really good response right to assure me i think for for me and not to be transportation centered but and and thinking that it's on everybody's minds at all times maybe is an incorrect statement uh for the rest of the community but i i did feel that who showed up and the survey responses in the email is received was did represent a good cross section and they did feel that voices were heard amongst all locations of the neighborhood sorry oh when you looked at the um daytime and compare that to the nighttime collision data that the night time was so much worse in certain areas and i was and i thought i heard you say that it was related to dui situations is and and i was just wondering if that's true that you said that is is there something going on with the communicating with the police it's a overall city wide issue that unfortunately santa barbara wants to be the the best at everything unfortunately we have a i forget the ranking it's it's high it's either one or two with cities of our size with dui related collisions so it is something that is very serious within our city it's something that as we continue to  implement the vision zero strategy and we're in development right now of a website and and trying to get the the message out there that that is one component that we would address okay thank you thank you committee member horn any other questions or comments on the part of other committee members uh barry remiss from uh coast for coming out for your public comment uh i really appreciate the work that especially coast has done with the vision zero just spreading that vision it really is a aspirational approach that there is a a lens uh you know these seven uh concepts you know like that lens uh looking at our streets is is a needed shift and it honors our our communities it honors the people who are out on their own streets you know um and it's it's such a pleasure to see that integrated in to these neighborhood transportation plans and i think that totally harmonizes with the feedback you're getting from residents actually to uh to your point community u horn the the dui pointing out those dui fatalities or collisions is really important element here because while we're working with infrastructure and street lights and things like that part of vision zero is is a cultural change education it's it's it's it's not just education it's us taking the right initiative to go towards what we want and we want streets where the kids one of those facts that jumped out at me from this was was it half of all of the households had a kid going to school or was that even like going to like elementary school in the neighborhood that's crazy we don't think about that like sometimes we discount the the density of families in our neighborhoods and so you know thinking about that uh or thing it applies to all the neighborhoods in the city we don't just need better infrastructure but we also need to hold ourselves to a higher standard when we're driving when we're walking when we're biking and when we're driving there's two things that i just have to kind of like vent about because i think that's part of the iceberg that these efforts and the vision zero is you know like holistically part of and that's uh holding ourselves to a high standard of not drinking and driving and i mean you know we ha we have a lot of great establishments that serve a lot of amazing beer and wine and cocktails and all that and we have these beer festivals you know and wine festivals and we have to shift how we think about how we're going to get to these places if we want to go drink it's not just like oh i'm okay i'm like under the legal limit right because i think in addition to dui collisions often like people get cavalier about driving through and i think that just as dangerous is this distracted driving of i mean i don't know if you all are walking around but i see every like every other person or sometimes like just a sequence of people in a row just zombies as they're driving and they're just looking down you know going through intersections going through like about to get on the freeway it's all over and and and overall nationally right traffic uh collisions and injuries have increased they're going up  i think across the board but definitely for pedestrians and bicyclists who face a disproportionate impact for this very negative trend that we all just kind of are okay about and this is something that we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard similarly when people are walking through intersections with a cell phone you know if you're crossing a street don't be looking at a cell phone i mean come on you know but we as a community we need to hold ourselves to a higher standard and i know that part of the vision zero work that the city is doing is this type of messaging and i just really want to appreciate all that work and how it complements this type of neighborhood work and this neighborhood transportation plan i'll get off my soapbox but thank you for the work all of the work that you all are doing in this area thank you committee member france are there any further comments from the committee i would move the if there are no further comments i would move that we find the plan consistent with the city's vision zero strategy circulation element pedestrian management plan and bicycle master plan uh and that we move the plan forward to city council for approval do we have a second a second thank you committee member horn is there any further yeah thank you for that and we have some program updates um it's a new it's a new thing that we want to put on the agenda so that you have you you get an idea of some of the things that we're doing but we're not necessarily bringing a report so we're putting them on the downtown mtd or the downtown waterfront reports but just to note that they're on there but uh the bike the bike share we're really excited about bike share we've been talking about this for a long time we were talking about it in the circulation element back in and ninety eight when that was approved and certainly in the uh certainly in the the bike plan we've been talking about it we're there we've got we have uh applications from three different companies it we have various actually it was in it was in this thursday in the independent uh nick walsh wrote a little bit about it we have everything from an all electric fleet to electrics and non electrics we have docked and non docked so we have a lot to choose from and and talk about we're narrowing our decision making it doesn't need council authorization based on the way we've set it up but we're probably going to take it to council to inform them of of the decision it's a big deal because which is part of the reason we've been hesitant in the past because uh there'll be bikes the same bike all over the city perhaps two hundred to three hundred of them and so it'll be something that everyone sees what i what i liked a way to describe how this it is you know how it will come off to residents is because our downtown is and the way we do things is so architecturally dialed in uh that when you introduce something like bike share and all of a sudden you you see two to three hundred bikes on the streets the people who are more likely to be concerned about them actually may not even ride them they're just looking at them going you know what is this so so so we we will have to do a pretty big roll out of what that looks like it is a pilot program so it's not something that would be permanent it's something that we're trying out that thank you mr dayton do you see that going to council as an informational item or as a decision to be made by council it would be an information item just because of the way it's been set up legally it's a it's an application  that is approvable by the public works director and that's the way the council set that up so but we do we do it is a big deal and so we want council to to have the opportunity to comment on it and look at it okay then the next um program update is the melpas corridor planning effort and that we launched and had our first listening workshop on october st at the franklin center it was really well attended and it was basically we we shared what is known for city staff of of what our future maintenance is that in the next couple years we do know that milbus will have a paving project but it was time to revisit back with the community um and residents to just yep receive impact if there's or input if there's anything else that we may be overlooking in terms of infrastructure needs so that was really the purpose of the october st meeting i don't have too much to share and what we've heard yet because we're still compiling all the the notes that was a good thing that it was really well attended which made for a lot of notes to to put together so that's what we're doing right now and uh for those that again had additional information from that workshop following that workshop or that could not attend and definitely received  you could have attended we basically mirrored that same questions that we asked at the workshop for the survey and that survey was launched just i believe about a week ago and we've already had about  hundred responses so far so that's that's exciting and we plan to have the survey period open to through november th and we hope to return for approaches um in early december back to the um the community on that one so i think yeah this is our last meeting of the year so i will be returning in the new year with feedback of what we've received on that effort and based upon that feedback whether any infrastructure needs would be right for the active transportation program grant so these what we've heard tonight is the cliff drive is the potential for active transportation program funds as well as the west side and lower west side neighborhoods and then the third potential grant that it could be is along and then the the last item is just the um quarterly report from the mtd on the downtown waterfront shuttle from april to june of two thousand and nineteen and it's just available for your review and if is there any um do you have any comments miss black or be based upon the report or any committee member horn please um just something that occurred to me today when i was looking at the empty buses during the day and how crowded they are you know during the peak hours of commuting and just wondering has it ever been considered by mtd to do like smaller bus shuttles during the day when there's no peak and then the big use of the big bus is at the peak times i don't know it's a thought i don't know if hillary wants to comment presentation um in two thousand and twenty and as a reminder all the downtown waterfront shuttle reports also go to the downtown parking committee for their review since they're intimately involved in the funding aspect of that if there are no further questions or comments i declare this meeting adjourned thank you thank you very much