welcome back to beyond my crisis i'm your co host vivian jaspar and i'm run rusnak we're talking about how to mitigate health crisis and how to get through it and we have great guests on today our guest today is kim while or who had a twenty one year journey began when she took matters into her own hands to heal herself of psoriasis an incurable auto immune disease now as an internationally certified health coach kim is devoted to helping others who struggle with skin conditions through own business healing my skin thank you kim welcome thank you i have to ask i understand the people like well how bad is the skin condition that you need to come on a t v show and talk about it and i remember asking you that for some people it can really alter how they live their life what is psoriasis and how did it really change how you lived your life in the past psoriasis is an autoimmune disease like ron said and it's basically when our immune systems attack themselves so instead of attacking the army of toxins allergens injuries infections even stress it attacks our own cells and tissues so what's happening with people with psoriasis is that a normal person skin sheds about once a month when the cells mature and for people like me my skin sheds rapidly every few days so it's causing these layers of these red thick skin really silvery kind of patches or lesions or even spots that are so crazy itchy and honestly make us feel incredibly unattractive so how did that you beyond your ability to even carry your life i mean you know we talk about diseases that people are wheelchair bound how a has this really stopped you from living in the past psychologically ok significant all aspects really some people can't even work because of it it could be very painful luckily i haven't mine doesn't cause me any pain but it's affected my dating life but for the last twenty years that i've had it and it's affected my dating life it's affected my work as an actress because you're walking around with a self esteem that's just crushed and you're living in fear of other people's judgment so all of that amounts to you just not feeling good about yourself not feeling like enough how many people suffer from suffer from psoriasis in the country and really what are some extreme examples of what that means in their lives that you've encountered well the national psoriasis foundation says that there's a seven point five million people who suffer from it just only in america and i actually just read on a modern medicine network that ten percent of those people actually think about yes yes well to two main things that it's my powerful secret healing recipe and that is through i healed myself through nutrition and self love so do tricia and i what i did was i a limb unaided out of my diet any food that contained chemicals and any food that caused inflammation so all those categories processed food right like all that junk food dairy cheese was hard one  people sugar sugar is a big one for most white sugar right yes and what more sugar is i would i just honestly stayed away from sugar altogether if i had any it was from like a plant or a tree like  actually yes t v i did use and you have this whole enumerated in your book you're guiding people through this process yes although all the more alkaline based foods that help nourish our cells rather than the the ones i just mentioned that produce too much acid and that's just a breeding ground  food that we can he that's a really great question yes really well because think about how many things are processed right with even a bag of lettuce is processed in some way you know not that they're pouring sugar and making it from something that it was in the way like g m o is are but it's you know it's packaged has to go through a process so as far as packaged through that i do eat i just me personally i only eat packaged very little you know very small percentage only because i don't want to be covered in spots i am more confident more happy and joyful in my life eating less of that food so i honestly wouldn't recommend of people are suffering in there trying to heal i would try to recommend to just buy things without a label ok so outside that when you when you care enough to do that you start you know you change your unhealthy eating habits you remove toxic people from your life you remove chemicals from your life and when you do that you're just taking those steps towards loving yourself enough to feel no wait wait if you step back for second what do you mean by toxic people from your life with a cut off for toxic or not toxic increasingly that's true because we all have emotions and it's very healthy to feel all of that right so i think mostly everyone can understand and relate to having those people in your life who are constantly complaining constantly looking at the negative choosing to not choosing unhappiness over happiness just choosing the negativity because negativity just breeds negativity and having that around you and that energy to fix you right on all levels if you think about being like in school and you go into a classroom and the teachers in a really bad mood you know how does that affect all the students that so if you want to get rid of psoriasis we have to start being conscious about our language and how we speak and how people speak to us and guide a positive approach yes because it's not just the people outside of us it's it's us you have to be aware first yeah we're not aware we can't make progress in that positive exactly we have to make the change first when i help clients heal their skin and one big thing i have them focus on is incorporating one act of self love into their daily schedule because when you say this everybody thin a week or two ago that she now has it on her face wow and for that for this disease and you know most people they're so ashamed about it they hide it from their family and friends and to see a celebrity send a tweet like that to millions of people ok on that note can you just give our audience of one quick take away i have an example of self love yes like i said before incorporating one small act of self love of self love into your daily schedule so what about me what does that look well i'll just give you  example for me i say i love you to my skin on a daily basis i look at it lovingly because most of us with the skin condition we look at our skin we have hate you know we're filled with hate we look at it were disgusted it makes us feel ashamed of me and makes us feel less than so just by simply just choosing to focus on loving it with or without the spots just show it love thank you for working so hard for you to eliminate it's eliminating toxins it's also it really having gratitude anything having gratitude exactly ok and how long does it take to be effective how long did you notice things start changing for you when you started applying what you do in your book i love that question because my first year on this journey i healed myself through food and that took me after having the disease sixteen years at that point it took me ten months to heal that's from times ten months to food and then the snowy but a few years later when my psoriasis returned from stress and life i realized that same diet wasn't working and i had so much stress in my life at the time and i had just had surgery i was on medication it was all this mix of negative stuff and that's when i realized oh my gosh food is not and nutrition is not just food nutrition is not just food it's having healthy relationships it's having all these help healthy primary relationships with food with our bodies with money having hobbies you enjoy having you know healthy relationships with people all these things nourish us way more than food guys well can i thank you so much because that is very helpful information  welcome to beyond my crisis i'm your co host ron ross nick and i'm vivian gaspar we're here today to talk about something that most people are avoiding how does someone with a chronic illness especially one that puts them in pain deal for the rest of their lives to get beyond their crisis well here with us today we have someone who's very special and we're so honored that carl of the son to use here she's a single mom and more importantly she is a sufferer of m s last twenty years and deals with it for the rest of her life with the assistance of medical cannabis thank you so much carla for coming on and educating our viewers because so much misinformation is out there and we just want to enlighten everyone as to what the real facts are thanks for coming on the show thank you seriously so much for having me both of you it's such an honor honestly to be here and to talk about a subject that i really really compassionate about we're happy you're an advocate because it is something that needs to come out to the forefront so how long have you suffered with multiple sclerosis choral society pronounce that's ok no it's a tough one says ninety ninety seven and worst condition that you've personally been in what was life like being a mom that's probably like the worst issue to deal in a single mom to deal  with having a handicap while raising a child because you can't do the things that you always thought you were going to be able to do with suffolk we would have what can't you do any more oh i can't run i can't skip i can't jump i can't dance the way i used to like sometimes like i can't walk the way that i used to you also mentioned to me prior to us getting on to the studio here is that you also had to deal with a back surgery you tell us how did that complicate your s it's kind of like a vicious cycle with walking because with m s your gait changes your walking patterns change and then having the back surgery also conflicts with that as well so i was compromise from the back and also the multiple sclerosis so the so the doctors prescribe you what come cation what well what was it doing for you how was it making your life it was when i years ago actually back in  ninety seven that's when my back was injured as well it was i was prescribed narcotics and opiates like there was no tomorrow and still up to you know and i get it al you like it in so you just you were to become a lion tony is just to exist on a day to day what i try and i i there were some yes at times when the doctor prescribe it i thought that it was needed but then i also would take six hundred milligrams of tyler the tylenol let's take a step back what is six hundred milligrams really represent not people when they take tylenol they take two for a fever or a slight back pain and how many milligrams does that represent in contrast for you six and that's good people really good idea of what that looks like six hundred milligrams i mean for me you know that was the the only amount that i could take that would relieve the pain taking none so how did that change take place with the discovery well because i was being a mom first off and with the laws in place for cannabis i started to research and educate myself in regards to cannabis did it recreationally and i thought they're saying cannabis can work and replace or help that all of these conditions that i'm suffering from let me educate myself on it so i started to wean myself off the through the proverbial grapevine of painkillers what people were using and i thought maybe this is an option for me but we want to get it very clear picture in one aspect here you have prescription personality changed too because it can affect your thinking process it can affect your your all your organs your blood pressure your heart rate all these different things it can it can affect and that's long term  long term usage for things like that it's going to affect the your body more and opiates are addictive so very rich to these i wouldn't say i was addicted because i was very conscious of what i was doing and to the point where when doctors are prescribing i'm like i don't want any more prescriptions don't prescribe this to me you know you look at commercials today where they have like the cartoon character saying you know because the you know we too many opiates and it causes you know so used ok so it's like so then you're going to take another drug because of all the other drugs that you're taking and then maybe run that's where it clicked in with all of these drugs when you had side effects from these other drugs they were also prescribing other drugs for the drugs and maybe that was the  you need i mean how much do you have to consume you know well it really varies very now because you know cannabis can be taken in several different forms whether you have you have a device here yes this is of a pen and his is carcinogen factor of the lighter right so my understanding is it heats up but doesn't burn grokked the material it brings us to the right temperature right ninety degrees or so this is three hundred fifty degrees didn't vietnam the one that i have this set for right now and plants that also help as well as regards to inflammation pain discomfort i mean you know i mean i can't stop eating for anybody who has a problem with eating if they're undergoing any other treatment for a while there after having surgery i had no appetite but i needed to eat introducing cannabis then i will have an appetite to eat so what have you been able to do now that you're using cannabis marijuana instead of the drugs w both i can do i could do so much more i am so much more productive and i think i've been unfairly mentally physically yes aps absolutely it doesn't cloud my mind do you feel that it's really increased who you state of new jersey because it's legal state by state but not federally rask correct still scheduled one narcotic correct so when second how long ago did it become legal new jersey for medical purposes oh two thousand six combating with the with the psychology of contrary home getting this constantly what does and what and what would what would you want to say to someone like that i am one that wants to you know my catchphrase usually is educate don't discriminate that's great because you really once you educate yourself and find out exactly what the cannabis play is really about and what it brings to so many people for different health reasons you'd be surprised and relieved at the same time and understand that a lot of the reasons in regards to why the name changed to marijuana years ago won't you research it and educate yourself i mean i could tell people this at face value and they're going to say ok sure but not until you really take the time to look at it what it's worth i mean you can get a prescription bottle you'll trust your doctor to write a script for a pain medicine that you may be heard of maybe not you'll fill that prescription  take it home open the bottle take as prescribed but do you really know what's in that pill or you just think most people do exactly blindly exactly so then the problem is because people trust blindly but they're also trusting stigma that's enjoy it recreation it's so tough i mean even like being with friends at restaurants years ago and i would say you know when they have an alcoholic drink and they're like would you like one i'm like no i'm good i've already medicated  acronym for fear false evidence appearing real yes absolutely but then you what you were saying to in regards to my son my son's living in the day and age right now where there's still signs in the school that say something corresponding to  marijuana doesn't lead to heroin but where drug money drug so he like i have educated my son for the longest time so he knows exactly what is going on and why mommy is doing this this is because i showed him mom is not taking these pills anymore and this is why i'm doing it but it's still tough for him at school you've been discriminated against by the school system or not i and the administrative faculty that that baby is taken away by the state i really didn't know that that happened to a woman that they took the child away in the state of new jersey i know that it's happened in other states where it's still happening actually i stigmatism the fears that we're all facing as medical cannabis patients because still it's against federal law so people want to know what is medical cannabis really look like you have here with a pouch if i may tell us what it could you tell us about this and that's the thing they're so well on educating people that that's a primary thing that i want to do so you're an advocate crash should get a medical marijuana card well the thing is in new jersey there's  only it's listed only several illnesses that can get america medical marijuana card we're trying to get more illnesses but right now with everything that's going on the government i understand the scope of getting it is not quite as difficult if you have a back problem you can get it right any skeletal issues skeletal issues there's a there's a list of that that's included there but like m s cancer is the muscular atrophy so there are several but there are  several that should be on there that are on their own i understand we're told that new jersey right now but what about the surrounding states do you happen to know what the regulations are for example in pennsylvania new york just a curiosity not off the top of my head to be honest with you because i need to focus what's going on in our own state and there's that incredible group that i talked about americans for safe access which is america's largest group trying to  is actually a movement you could say because they're trying to see what regulations can be brought it's me around the country so it's made up of doctors lawyers scientists patients like myself and it's a a group of people like i said so they can people can use medical cannabis for therapeutic reasons and also research because research definitely still needs to be done so then we can say fact this is shown that this helps this illness this can cure this this and this can provide this so we need to have the research and medical right and assist in a wrap up what's the most significant advice you can offer our viewing audience regarding medical marijuana and using it on a daily basis educate yourself really that is the most important part because if it's a plant you know planted her body works for you recommended for m s as you anyone that has a mess you would recommend it for people with a variety of different illnesses cancer and miss israel is there an age that they should or should not use it in what is the young all depends on the old it's all dependent upon the illness you know i when i met people out with the americans  save access conference in washington my roomie is a woman from jersey and her daughter has direct syndrome so she has her daughter's tourette's rivette trevenna what is that it's like an epic epileptic disorder and she makes her daughter's medicine she had to figure out what is it t h c or c b d she has to do all all of that to make the medicine for her daughter so she doesn't have the seizures the way that she does so that's a young age so i you that that's one or you could just put it make the oil with the coconut oil cannabis coconut oil cannabis and butter and then you can incorporate it in your foods are still digesting the same amount that's need as long as you measure out what you believe you need again that's what comes into regulation there it does need to be regulated no matter what well this is been very high in high cash i think actually had never known anything in my aunt actually lives in new york state didn't mention it's legal the problem is there are so few just i think it's called dispensary cracked that sell them by hershey those up in the catskills she's seventy six years old and lives in extremely condition of chronic pain with a lot of back surgeries and she just doesn't