differentiation and creativity right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about the movement i wanted to explain a few things to you bob procedures and why sometimes we do things that we do not do this complicated but a lot of people ask why we chant whom we start an organizational meeting often if not all the time and the reason why we do that is not a great mystery it's like a choir getting ready to perform and the choir master just some up and he keep tunes sections and he has them the baritones in the tenors in the soprano's in the altos and they all sing a certain pitch in the tome and then once he's got them all synchronized he has them come in and hit the the resin the chord that sets the tone for the evening performance and what we do when we chant the hue or deny hue is to set the tone and sometimes i've  heard the chanting of the hue of the night you and i think let's go up and restart that because it's out of harmony and somebody is not listening are they would really on the shocker centers will start to vibrate and what you're doing is tuning up one of god's finest instruments on this planet you and if you're not listening to your neighbor around you and come into harmony maybe you think well i always chant this pitch is sharp or flat as it is and i'll be damned if i'm going to change tonight you really should go home early and you  the head here above the cheekbones are reese thought of in ancient scriptures as the sacred cities the golden cities and their levels of psychic center of the pituitary in the gland to receive down the messages from the divine beings the divine spirit of the holy spirit or god or christ or whatever name that they care to put on it now none of that bothers me i just want contact so whichever one they get just great and if i'm not getting it and i'm not turning into somebody else it is i shut up and wait for them to get a hold of the energy and start flooding the room and then i come in on it i come in very slowly not to disrupt it it's the form of integrity that we have to bring forward in and out of ourselves into the community to the culture that we're in at that particular time and this responsibility is tremendous to us because that kingdom of heaven that is inside of us is going to to the kingdom of heaven inside of other people i was talking to a psychic physician sounds strange to say something like that psychic physician nevertheless intuitive might be a better word but a medical doctor and he said it's no mystery that many people get healed by certain types of faith healers this is absolutely no mystery at all if you watch them they come in under the vibration of the divine spirit and whatever you don't list in the groom vibrates to that moment the divine spirit it will surface and heal it and he explained it to me in scientific terms and all of a sudden i was out of m magic and religion into empirical science this is what we're doing we are tuning ourselves and atoning ourselves to a higher higher frequency so that we can bring forward healing vibrations to our bodies and not only that people who will vibrate to whatever tone we're bringing through here's the problem we might start picking up there so sometimes we hear the announcer say when the traveler or johnny or j mostly john finishes doing a seminar do not touch them let them go out and change and get rid of the illness by bray shows that they've picked up from the group because we hold them out here in a frequency field and the reason we hold it out there is because obviously if you get inside you're going to have an illness if somebody comes up  a year you start to pick up what was cleared that night you might wish you hadn't done that we know that goes on and rather than dump it on you we even ourself i ha just finished going through about fifteen years of illness to eating some things some people one dumped on me because they got a hard line going and before i could get out i i frequency field it could be five miles out there i'm starting to pick up the vibration i have a really good idea who's got why when i come in the room and some of you are saying i don't feel well i want to hug from jr saw feel better please don't hug the holy spirit it's inside of you in the kingdom of heaven chan regulations that function throughout the physical universe is harmony and order when the first one is order the first law that comes to is order there's order in this universe even though it's chaotic from our perspective from the perspective of where it comes from order in this proceeding according to in order and the second point is harmony it is in harmony with to do these particular things have been tried for centuries and centuries well that's nice but the bad news about that they're not going anywhere they're going to be feeling pretty good for the next fifty sixty years then they're go die and come back and they're probably going to get into another order and do all the rituals and all the things that the basic self likes and fifty or sixty years later they go feel pretty good in the dine they're going t back now that's a life that's an exam and i think there's a great philosopher said a life on the exam when is that worth living let me tell you this also a life full of pain isn't worth prosperity abundance and riches i'm loving caring and sharing and touching to others with you physically touch him you don't have to if you're vibrating to the same frequency you are touching you get in there and they'll hit some of those notes and you can feel your pant legs blown like that from the wind from the organ and it's really quite wonderful to sit there and watch people all start to experience  wonderful notice of this harmonic voice and to become part of that you know i was talking to a bird watcher who said birds in the morning seeing two tune up the then i met up with another psychic healer and said birds are the worst things on the planet they come from dinosaurs they're extinct and i thought well my birds aren't extinct they're outside up so when somebody says they're there to greet the day they're up long before the days to be greeted by human beings never the less if we can and we can bring ourself into harmony and come into the order of the day this is the day that god has created rejoice and be happy in it and one of the ways we are happy is to seeing all whistle so in the movement of spiritual awareness we have to watch the things that we're doing how bitterly ordinarily every day is keeping us in harmony with the divine spirit that is our heritage and tradition and are now on us in humanity this is the moment god has created this moment here didn't create any other moment the one that just passed i'm sorry god's creation is perfect and never changing and it is this now and this that is always perfect and never changing rechange in it because of our thought patterns but if we can get ourself in harmony with the vibration and the frequencies that are here now we could start to regeneration as reported in the bible and they entered into the regeneration you know what this is this is regaining your vitality of youth it is necessary to look young it is maturing in the of wisdom and knowledge and whatever you look like you look like in the fullest in the purity and the divinity of that summer you look in the mirror and you go for how many more white hairs  wrinkles if i were starting my life over again from the beginning i would go into the cosmetic business because it seems like there's always something new to help somebody with their vanity teeth and was doing the things you do in the bathroom to get ready to come and that just preyed upon my m well that's a case just one so i played look the mirror and there it was yeah i was there it was just really quite pretty quite nice little not too long i knew was new grab a hold of it pull it out wrong one so i have this little place here this vacant of payers and these a safe you get close you will see the silver hair right there is still there i decided i would keep it after all that if you want to stay with me that bad well well that may sound funny to you but inside of me there were gills of laughter about what i was doing that laughter is in your jogging it is increasing the vibrational energy inside of you and and it was nice and it was neat and i look around here and i start to g it's ok it's ok i just thought i would draw that to your attention now you can draw your attention to all sorts of other things but when you go home tonight you're going to look in the mirror and you're going to try to see if there's a difference there will be because there's always a difference  sign of creativity differentiation is the sign of creativity god is a creator if we look gigantic superstores and all those books had different names out twenty six letters and i walked through looking at them and some of them had the same words in them but they had different ones also different meanings all from twenty six letters you want to have some fun just stop and cast your vision upon your life's actions just look at what you're doing look at the field around you look at the people that are attracted to you and that you're attracted to what is a bow them seen and unseen where you say i this person this is a nice person this is the god person a good person and why is that this other one something about them repels you and you walk across you at the side of the street not to see him or talk to him what are these things that are going on you are experienced seen the differentiation in god's creation don't be afraid of it because that god that created that created you and differentiated you from all the others now i've heard and i have seen identical twins who look alike and you can't tell them apart and in a few minutes you can tell them apart if you cast your vision upon them without accepting that that is so that they are exactly alike the say there is the difference and let me see that the difference will come forward for you and that may be the only thing that you will have in your memory of the differentiation of that when we travel all over the country doing some of ours and you people come to a seminar here and you probably remember the last one and what was said there's a darn good chance book the last one is thirty away from what we've done now maybe more and we'll have the i should say i should say we speaking i have no idea what was said so you know what i do i get the tape and i look at it more i'm telling you that takes courage it builds strength and fortitude to see me up there doing that but i also take notes because i get new information for another seminar from watching what i've done before the last word is never spoken in a seminar the last energy field is never finished in the seminar these are really for you to come in and gets stirred up and if it means angry ok fine angry but to bring you into differentiation viewing where you start to see the difference and say john roger didn't say this and this and this he went this way i wonder why you didn't go this way honey it's because i don't want you to go that way in your spare time i want you to go home and think through i want you to have the seminar to the holy spirit to yourself i want you to understand that these are not the teachings here these are informational directions that we're giving to you we're given you cautions we're given you grammar we're given spelling we're giving you things to turn in your direction to the holy of holies the sacred place the kingdom of heaven god's paradise whatever name you want to call it that is what we're doing we want you there why would we want you there because mercy it wants empathy it wants sympathy it's got a lot of wants and now it's learning how to give how to give understanding how to give attention to something how to give to your better being that better part of you the composer forward something where you say yes i wished i would have thought of that you don't have to think about it in order to use this life as a life of plagiarism were taken all good things from all good people all the good time that we can get and if you don't you're not paying attention to your life because we are here teaching each other by example by message by whatever means shows sometimes we say something from a peer and you people back there say it in your mind better more concisely more implicitly and we pick it up by by gratian and also we're saying watch your been saying and you know what it sounds like it sounds like plagiarism why would it sound like plagiarism great minds under the great spirit will say similar things we will say we're going to say god i was talking to  meld out a whole bunch of them we haven't read it yet read it find out what we're doing a man who's is in the creative community intellectually took everything he could get his hands on about us and put it in the order in the form and we looked at we said that was really none of us could do that because we are in we need an outsider to differentiate our creativity for us and yet they were saying we use jargon these words that i use to you i use them on the street talk to taxi cab drivers to hotel people to waiters waitresses is not jargon i just line the words up for a specific intent when we're here talking about spiritual invisible things that are the life eternal now we come to life eternal he looked and he said it just might be there since nobody knows where it is so i was going to go trademark that watching who to find out who's saying was using my word my trademark so i can get the money and i realized i would go broke trying to collect on this particular trademark so i decided i would just give it away as usual live a made do with whatever they wanted to do so for no one's done anything except me let's see harry i don't know who's hairy in here but i don't think you're probably happy with that idea but if you can put a line like that and differentiate infinity into eternity maybe you can put a comma here like that and differentiate  i mean it makes a great difference and that's another one of said man or woman without her man is nothing and they said women read it one way and men read another way so i looked as i decided it was written wrong to start with so i said i just wrote the thing backwards and it made more sense than had it written forward why would i do that because a lot of things  sense backwards but we don't think so because we're used to seeing them one way and we are in a rut of our vision of creativity we're not opening our mind but do we just put a comma in and you start just start to look at something say what is the difference that i can make here you will start changing your life by making a difference in what you do that thing that has run you that has been obsessive and compulsive and dictatorial too you will start to let it go because it is now in competition with something that is much larger a comma here you're all probably going to go home and start to look around you things to say see what is there in this house i think of this picture over here and i think i moved those drapes over here as interior decorating folks that is not differentiation change the curtains to a different color and you're getting differentiation start to change how you wear your clothing how you dress start to change how you champ the tones of god start to change how you read the initiation booklets start to change how you approach the sound of god and god's voice started to change how you change your tone do some differentiation of scales higher or lower up or down is there a wrong way no no except not doing it you know that a lot of people come into the movement spiritual awareness a lot leave you know why they leave because they can't do it and rather than be found out that they can't do  o go thinking i'll do it someplace else this is the moment god has created right now do it now i was talking to a person working from the church mov the spiritual in awareness and i said when you go to the states that i was going to get i was going to it later when i had more time i said if you don't have time now how you going to get more time later now's the time to do it now i'm going to hang up the phone i'm going to call back in ten minutes i want  pushing water appeal to get it because that wasn't the first time she had a hole in the bucket i'm going to do it later folks listen carefully real carefully your in your later years now you're in them no more putting off no more i'll decide tomorrow no more i'm going to work this through you start going towards it and you differentiate your creativity from that that is nonspecific and creative and just start moving in the direction this true that you can go to skilled people who are therapist himmel therapist other kinds of therapist and they can start taking your life backwards and come to the place where you decided against yourself and bring your own awareness they can't just come back that place and leave you stuck your some somewhere in the present they've got to take all of you bad bag bag back to this place where you say what about those that don't they have to keep going back and trying to find going back and going back and going back and going back until they've got back there more than they've got right here or even projected into the future here's some good news and bad news never get an argument man with a woman she will remember you she will know what you said and the time of day and what you look like and what you're really trying to say when you didn't say it right anyway so you might just as well give up say honey whatever you won you win that's it so what happens when you get in a fight with a woman love them remember that song from camel how to how to get along a woman love her just love her lover but are they talking about just that but we know that if you dwell in love and you dwell in law not just come skipping across the water like throwing a rock across the lake and it skips and skip some bounces and then falls but it's one where you  with the story of the pig in the chicken talking about commitment to life you've heard that one the pig says to the chicken it's easy for you to say commitment firm because a you is just guess when i come it is whole pig pig wasn't interested in that type of commitment find out why it kind of commitment you're interested in how much of you are you willing to give into this whatever it is you're doing are you willing to give into this loving of your child not to have them become you not to have you live your life through them and bend the twig in a way it's never meant to grow because there is a saying is this so girls the tree you do that to children by eleven to twelve that least by fifteen or sixteen you've lost your child to the dregs of the world what does it mean to on are your mother and father that your days may be long upon this planet what on earth is that mean do what you mom and dad say no it does not mean neck it means honor your parents by living your life in such a way that they look upon you with love and respect and claim you as theirs and so what do we do we find out the talents of our child by observing the differentiation in their creativity and we give them things that will assist them in that way so they can become more and more skilled more  alive more adroit more of everything that they are and when that child drops dead and goes to another one have someplace to take those toys and let somebody else use them you have to have four hundred toys for if you can afford it go ahead you need to know what do you need to encourage the child in the  john's got his little boy and i got him i gave him toys and i give him a gift i give him little cars he likes cars i didn't know i like cars until i went home one day  about two hundred thousand cars the people given him well wasn't it rainy and he was running them upside down i realize cars can go upside down with wheels mere unlike you i sit there and just just laugh it's like a great feeling came over this kid who's a little over two years old was teaching me about how to drive a car then i moved ahead in my future to when he's just going to eleven eighteen twenty something like that he's going to come to me for car keys and i'm going to ask him where is he going to put the wheels do you understand the joy of this creativity why don't we have that with ourselves it's all great and it's all fun that's all creative and no matter what you do we're going to get off on it and we do and not just here i see it all over the world that i travel and we're with m s i e people moving moving of spiritual inner awareness people they're moving their spiritual inner awareness they're moving that that differentiates creativity from stagnant city as a new word not every day because i don't care to write it down their throat i just cared that i have a chance for creativity i can sit and read discourses listen to tapes and get things out of there like you there's arnie in there and swear to god it was in there when i got through and go back and read it and read it and read it and that's not there and i look in the mirror and i go because you're nuts you went crazy in the meantime you went crazy i go that's all right being sane has no value my crazy stop me from going insane these people been gone craziness stop you from going insane you end up having a belly laugh and you just laughed in the tears came down with the best place to do it was in church sitting in the back row with the girls and somebody does something it's not funny but you try not to laugh and the more  laugh the more you're going to laugh and so what you do is you get your hanky and in the middle blasting you blow your nose and wipe your eyes trying to make them think that's a fever attack trying to be creative those are lies folks we have to learn to differentiate between that this is true and you're true and that that is a lie and it's a lie for everybody so god made us and here we are did he make us like this physically if he did he's an underachiever he's got to be going back to some remedial schooling father mother god so we go ok tradition and we feel bad if someone gets up and says mother father god will some do i don't i don't because it doesn't matter if you're calling upon the name of the one that we are we're not the big g o d we're the small g a w d but are we the capital g small a small d some is that god is man's best friend if you spell it backwards as dogon is still man's best friend is that a joke try the dogs and see try your life and see just reach into it and see what is in there and if you ever burn your hand on the stove  and you do it again i remember them twice come on you people you know you there's just no need to lie because you're lying if you don't put your hand in the hot water and you did it again i know i'm getting more and more as i move along here how many never set the clock to wake up a certain time  you support and their home my car keys i came in i put them down there i remember you do not remember you don't have the foggiest idea where your car keys went to the right over there where you put them and then you find them to go  i do remember put in there but i tell anybody after i've read the riot act everybody know i am basically a coward i will pretend that that's nice own the car keys yes th been playing around with them he doesn't they won't give it to him they just hide it someplace else make him go looking for not to put him down that's just the way they work  discipline differentiation how i overcame it all why did it come on you know i know these things because i do it if you raise your hand what you've done i raise my right along with you because i probably done it too and just i'm so old i forgot about it but that doesn't mean they can't raise my hand in the greek i probably did it anyway we're so impatient to get what we don't have that we don't cake take care of what we've got but i remember once i was going to go into the kitchen to get a glass of water and i was getting ready to go to bed and i was here was my shorts  long cold night and i was in a hurry but on the way into the kitchen into the kitchen i had to go to my living room and there was a paper there that i had to read so i thought i'd get that read take that back in the bedroom read my bed for go to sleep in the kitchen forgot what i was there for but i had this paper so i put the paper down i know this sounds stupid but folks it was stupid i was turn around went back into my bedroom remembered i had a good to drink water and went back into the front room and wondered where the paper when i went back into my my bedroom was said glass of water glass a water glass of water as i walked through the room and saw the paper pick them said paper glass a water paper glass of water and i kept it going until i got the water and i thought right now is a good time for forget what i'm doing and i said i won't do it and i just kept disciplining myself paper a glass of water and went back him put the paper down drank the water turned the light out went to bed always whims so i wake up in the morning turn around look at the clock and there's a paper blocking the clock and i wonder what the paper doing blocking the clock oh my god is there i put it there when i got the water from the kitchen i jump out of bed going to kitchen get a glass of water and forget about the paper can you do these things over and over and over and over and not ad nauseum you get sick the first time why do i do these things because there's nothing else it's more entertaining and we do do them and we have fun doing them is said the scripture god made this body a temple of the living god and in it he resides as directing our life into creativity into the building of the glory of god and the glory of god is intelligence not intellectual is an intellectual isn't is repeating what you hear the glory of god of intelligence is creation creativity newness person rather than somebody who's sitting down wondering what's going on get up and make it go on don't destroy it you can slow down you can do a lot of things but don't lose track of that intention inside of you that says here's where i'm going and i want to have fun doing that and in closing let me say this to you if whatever you're doing right now is not if there's a little bit of fun consider going on but if you say i hate for tomorrow to come and that job don't go to it or create fun you can create fun have you ever thought of going into your apartment put the key in the door twist a door handle push it open walk in backwards no you won't because somebody in there from that last move is going to stab in the back or hit you over the head and rob you know know the fears that prey upon this oh my god what will happen in the closet don't go to the closet and so simple as that what do you do knock on the neighbor have invite him over for a cup of coffee and bring some john rogers closing words were bearish they shan't which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which occur by just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john rogers journey of assault call this number one eight hundred eight nine nine two six six five you can send an e mail to a service desk at m s i a dot o r gene or write to which is post office box five one three nine three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one dash one nine three five this has been that which is what john rogers thanks for joining