following program is sponsored by seattle open door church yet all up and door church he's committed to loving god loving people and loving why our doors are open to whomever you know mass required seattle open door church bene question for anybody ever experience the presence of the holy spirit you know how to raise your hand if you can't be ever experienced that way you know that god was in the room i would tell you that if you ever experience the true presence of the holy spirit that it changes you that doesn't mean you'll never sin doesn't mean you won't fall short but there be something that you know when the presence of the holy spirit is there and it's something you start to desire then sin gets to the way in a grieving quenches the spirit sadly i would say in this room there's probably at least at thirty of there never since the presence of the holy spirit in your life so is a holy spirit everywhere whether you believe or not is he in the room but if you're a believer in jesus christ is that the holy sp dwells within you so you know the holy spirit uses the holy spirit if you're born again you know that you're safe you know no matter what no matter comes your way you are born again then you sense that all the spirit is the one that is secure in your salvation but that is much different th is the spirit of god is such a way that it either brings tears or brings joy whatever it may be and most of you have never experienced that because when you've been tied to not seek after emotions and feelings and all that stuff i preach that i think you see god you you sense emotions you think that you disappears of either joy or fear or whatever it may be do you think he would know that he's in the room and i would argue that we should be asking god that his presence is with us reverend but in a church service here's the reality i preach them some good sermons i know that they're good sermons i know they're from god but guess what at times are you it goes on deaf ears and part of that is because of me because i'm not walking in god's anointed because i'm allowing the spirit to work in my life in you're close to the things of the spirit you have a heart that's hard to the things of the spirit you will for rebellious since then you're not going to sense necessary the spirit of god in the same as somebody else does i encourage in the midst of worship say holy spirit come i look at the emmys in this the dad in the dad was the believers know when the present god is there and i would argue when the present god is in a room that when i am believers in that room of the present god there that even they will bow the knee because the present god is so strong so as a church should we not pray for the spirit holy spirit come bring your presence such a way to changes us now if you're going to come and go after every meeting to get a feeling good luck and you're stuck chasing the false so i'm not talking about every week we come in to see how he's got going to manifest  them video somebody else's experience because you bell out you not want to go through the fire go through the fire you know right now i've got to start my message i want you good to your bible we got to give a biblical basis for some things we talk about if you go to your bible go to first peter chapter one verse seven first peter ron chapter seven possible peter do you think he knew something about about fire and he knows something about protein he knows something about trials and tribulations and and  what about that part where he does focus on where he denied christ but how did he get to this and how did he get to a man that could turn around and preach to entreaty that three thousand people get saved he had to go through some fire and the fire three times you don't think that he's experiences of judgment in the midst of that who is who is mainly judging him himself and i really a born again follower of christ that really allowed jesus to rule raid i really believe jesus  but listen to their messages how many times they talk about transit trip they talk about getting giving to get there is this part and us that if for glory ain't to get to a place of walking in faith to get to a place of being a brave heart we're going to about being a brave  to mean everything to me it's a thousand dollars a thousand dollars is a lot to me and i mean to you but thousand dollars a lot but you know what i praise god for every trial tribulation i've gone through and some of been pretty ugly for what is  my life and that's more precious than a thousand dollars because i got more than a thousand dollars worth of counseling through the fire because guess what you go through the fire some counseling that goes on people for counsellors all the time just to avoid trials and tribulations of is that the trying your faith be much more precious then of gold that perishes though be tried with fire might be found under praise in honor and glory at the period of jesus christ when we go through trials where faith then we get the victory over them guess what there is praise and honor and glory that goes to god you see any good thing anna says because of god and us and when you look at it is what this is saying is that those trials and how you handle me how you deal with them really determines that god's going to get the praise or not so here's what happens to a lot of us we go through a trial and all we do is what do we do complaining you have been listening to there is so with pastor richard over through jesus christ we can live a victorious life seattle open door church located in period committed to loving god loving people and loving one seattle open door church once you know that regardless of where you've been or what you've done god loves you there doors are open to anyone and everyone their services are sunday mornings at eleven seattle open door church is located at six twenty five south west one hundred forty ninth street in period next to the southwest 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