welcome ladies and gentlemen welcome and thank you so much for joining us you know i think we know the answer to a one thousand nine hundred four society is a seven hundred seventy six spirit we have to start acting like free men and women we have to start valuing due process valuing open society and somebody that promotes that is robert david steele who leads major movements for open free open source internet he is a former marine  case officer u s spy hacker c e o of open source illusions networking point twelve candidate for reform party presidential nomination currently he's the c e o of earth intelligence network an accredited educational on profit robert is known for his advocacy of open source intelligence teaching seven thousand five hundred plus mid career officers from across your six governments and is today the foremost proponent of applied collective intelligence w holistic analytics true cost economics of open source everything of the latter engineering and information management approach that is affordable and scalable his most recent book is the open source everything manifesto transparency truth and trust by beta iota dot net or big bat usa dot org now he wanted to come on today and i'm i want to get him out about a bunch of suburbs where cover the waterfront about facing our election system getting past the jeb bush's and hillary clinton's getting real issues in there that don't divide people that bring us together for real prosperity we'll talk some about that whether he's also thinking about running for president but libertarians but he's a real expert from covered operations in the middle east he knows iranian he knows the al qaeda type folks out of saudi arabia which are isis and its whole islamic state he knows a lot of the players so you can give us really an expert he's not one of the cia guys that was like a desk jockey or all the new generation the tour they've tripled the size of their operatives to run around in a cooler black sunglasses he's actually work with the marines the army an actual operations all the middle east so he can speak to what he thinks is going on because you've got double crossing iran double crossing saudi arabia the west funding isis under the free syrian army and then not funding it but are they in the iraqi president says they have proof that they are and so is it a triple cross  double cross or is it really just caused a destabilization civil war between the arabs and the persians where is all this go because i've never seen such a fog of war hanging over this and i'm pretty pretty good at analyzing what's happening what's unfolding what's going to happen when i says as the f b i says they will hits the u s one point out that we gave the weapons the most of course is let them attack us to take our liberties  form a false flag but then i say what is the answer to the dictatorial move by government internet power grabs opening up the borders outside of law well the wall street journal has the headline washington strips new york fans power the new york fed folks is the private arm that makes most the decisions this would actually be a u s government takeover partially the federal reserve this just came out thirty minutes ago i'm stunned trying to read during breaks it's a long sixteen page article tikrit triangle document gives control of bank regulation to committee and i'm even saying this is a good thing right now the committee is run by fed gov which is calling the shots and oversight of banking titans such as goldman sachs group and citi group banks which is good or bad all i know is this there are major movements happening right now it's been said many movement for good for bad you name it just a shell or writing to light speed everywhere and this is a time when good people can get involved and really change history the world has been unfrozen and put into a type of flux we're  but if we understand that we can change things and we can get involved and we can actually control our destiny then we can change the world but if we believe that we're just passive spectators it's game over so i threw out a lot there what's happening geopolitically why are things moving so quick for mr steele there's so much to cover here what do you want to head first well let's start with the government being in enemy hands the greatest threat to u liberty and us prosperity is the u s government ice is a theatrical threat it's funded by saudi arabia it's trained by cia more people will die in the next two years to us police brutality th will ever in ten years died isis i can tell you you've got the floor break it down well let me let me focus on why you invited me in the first place then we can go to google is the ministry of truth and that other stuff  i am putting together a nonpartisan movement called open power and the tiny u r l forward slash is open powering down get people right to the book and the blog and the documents  here's the bottom line hell it's sixty percent of the american voters are disenfranchised it might even be as high as eighty percent out of three hundred nineteen million and the total population two hundred forty are eligible to vote in tw twelve one hundred ten million voted and the reality is that once they vote and they're generally told how to vote by the forty two billionaires congress forgets about us so what i want to do is bring together the constitution green libertarian reform parties and the independents and i want to create a nonparty take it in this is not no labels or americans elect those were good ideas badly executed basically my dream candidate is egnos king as an independent with jill stein is a vice president from the green party gary johnson running a new thing called the governor's council and everybody else on a cabinet that's announced in advance we have four planks elect fight automated payment transaction tax change the law so that you cannot be eligible to run in the general election unless you first appoint your cabinet and have cabinet level debate so the public can see what it's buying and last but not least i believe we have slightly must get to a balanced budget but that's a balance budget that has to be formulated by a coalition cabinet transparently in front of the public and here's my bottom line if one hundred million americans provide ten dollars each to a democracy fund that's a billion dollars you combine that with your show and social media and i absolutely guarantee we can kick the two part out of office well ten years ago i would say that you are being too much of an eternal optimist but the climate with gallup poll showing a seven day percent approval of congress and people completely leaving the mainline political reservations  are entering a time when you could create a coalition type movement to do this the problem is they will attack it they will send in dissent fop arrives and anything that charted actually gaining steam would be attacked as you know the difference was though if we openly talk about it upfront people would expect to see that and the attacks would actually generate more support but it is quite a undertaking you're discussing and have on your website well alex i put a small kind book at amazon and it hit number eight in civics and i open the book with a youtube from eric liu on what citizens need to know about our that's the most powerful seventeen minute you tube i have seen in my sixty three years  three years of life i will tell you without any qualification whatsoever if the independents greens and libertarians are willing to put aside their obsession with individual issues and come together on the one thing that we can all roundly around electoral reform i absolutely guarantee i can deliver the us government back to the u s well let's expand on that specifically for your book the big disconnect why the internet hasn't sex politics yet and like it makes a core point which is that all of the activists today are as fragmented as the activists were in the one nine hundred sixty s when cia and the atlantic or ford rockefeller foundations they were basically throwing out a lot of money in order to divide and conquer and we're divided and conquered today the think tanks in washington are largely worthless because they're all chasing after bits of money t keep them in line the reason i'm certain is that we are now starting to see some revolutionary moments and i've posted the most popular graphic on my website is called graphic preconditions of revolution in the u want to ask you about that as well this subject could not be more important stay with us robert david deal is our guest a little bit in the next hour we can do it to take your phone calls from one of the cia an actual ground operations author researcher a book review in front of the white house and it gets caught on tape i'm not saying somebody should do that and it should put out the correct way you could get whatever the issue was basically changed it has the public's well beyond it already so trigger events catalyst and the establishment knows we've reached the tipping point i think they'll try to trigger a fake thing like the arab spring and then have it lead in the vacuum by a bunch of miscreants that's my concern is they'll use it as a socialist or communist revolution not a free market revolution that you and others are promoting you've got the floor mr steele breakdown exactly what you're getting at here in the climate we're in right now well first off i'm increasingly concerned that elizabeth warren is being turned into a  candidate and that she is the logical follow on to obama theatrical pap i mean if you look closely at warren she's doing everything she can to protect fed secrecy and she's doing everything she can to protect the new york banks and they're continuing to do business as usual so i'm extraordinarily skeptical of the progressive enthusiasm about elizabeth warren now let me come back to who i do believe in i believe in angus king i believe and john  believe in jill stein i believe in gary johnson although i think gary should be governor general in charge of the governor's council and focusing on state rights rather than president i also believe we're now reaching a point where people understand that the f b i and its false flag movement is in fact the sole source of terrorists incidents in the united states in fact i was just reading about how a muslim in the united states of america are funneling restraining orders against if the eye false flag attacks well i mean the false flag incentives to attack this is extraordinary the citizens are becoming very aware and they're finding that they can in fact fight back and expose all of this stuff but for me the long of the short of it is that mark zuckerberg of facebook joan blades of move on and jackie sale of independent voting dot org have the power country but instead he's bashing the democratic party establishment and censuring people out of course your plan would succeed if they put zucker berg you know behind it but i mean that's like that's like saying david rockefeller is going to get behind it well you know i've been talking to some people that write for salon and and a couple of other of these progressive ranks and what i'm starting to find out is that not only are the elites fragmenting the one percent is actually fragmenting you've got people doing conferences on inclusive capitalism and they're talking about redemptive capitalism that's code for stuff the pitchforks i can stuff you know you're right you talked about in england just a few months ago the rothschilds are having those meetings that's right now what i'm also finding is that the fragmenting the super smart people along the progressive are starting to understand and theresa model was an aide to ralph nader and she wrote a wonderful book called grand illusion the myth of voter choice and a two party tyranny in the third term from the smartest progressive's are starting to realize that hillary clinton doesn't have a hope in hell and that the democratic party as it is presently constituted is as i have on the cover of my book one bird two wing same crap ok so we really are starting to see the smart people convert from all sides i just got off a skype with paul ray who wrote with sherry and ru anderson a book called cultural creatives and he told me yesterday the cultural creatives are now eighty million a number imagine if we got each of them to donate ten dollars to a democracy fund that is neither democratic nor republican that's eight hundred million dollars with a hundred million dollars i can crush the rich because i will have you in the social media and we will have the partnership among the greens and the libertarians the reform party constitution party working families with bil very interesting informative guy i want to pick his brain about the different political movements were saying not just here in the united states i know we've got a lot of callers that also would like to make a statement about how to try to fix our government or how to try to reverse the dictatorial slide that we're in and i want israel to finish the point he was just making we can have him back in the future as well or even here to town in studio to put on you know some of the ideas that he has here's what i see if i was the establishment which i know in fights with itself it's not totally monolithic if i was the western establishment the anglo american establishment as karl quickly called it or brzezinski or rockefeller i would be trying to promote institutions of freedom i would want transparency i would want the process because a that produces incredible wealth but be it also secures the wealth of the elite who can tend to set up on top of things and skim off the top and get even richer but instead they want to kill the golden goose and totally bring in corporate fascism corporate kleptocracy crony capitalism discrediting capitalism itself an setting up autocratic oppressive classically dictatorial systems and google announcing they'll decide what's true or not and delist websites i mean this is this is all really scary and i see the left as horrible cheerleaders for all of it just like the republican leadership isc so you can i guess kind of see a coalition of libertarians and paleo conservatives with the left and if things get bad enough that could happen the problem is the left has the shakra ment restricting guns and you know min need not wear pants and you know things that just just stupid so sure i mean look at zuckerberg he's funding right now men do more work during you know ads on the m b a as if men did something bad you know more divide and conquer so i get in general the idea i mean you could be a third party kind of candidate out of nowhere if they have the right rhetoric and get into the debates with what would win hands down they'll just never let it get to that point so i threw a lot out there let me ask you this why do you think historically even though long term it's bad but currently why is the establishment unified only in my view on shutting up the why do they think that will protect them when historically that will destroy them alex first off one of the reasons you're not supposed to marry first and second cousins is because incest makes you stupid  and that's what we have among our one percent elite you now have inherited wealth and incest and a whole bunch of other things and you've addressed paedophilia and satanism and these are some sick puppies now the smartest once the most ethical  are starting to realize precisely as you said that their only protection from pitchforks and having their mansions burned down and there's no place they can hide including switzerland is an accommodation and this is why i like richard wolfe so market and they never pay tax squat book one of the things that i really believe in as a layman a thing all taxes i finally figured out the tax code it's the way congress blackmails people into bribing ok in fairness to business it's congress that shakes down business it's not business that set out to bribe congress so if we do the edgar fi the automated payment transaction tax debt taxes all transactions including the currency and stock transactions  wall street that are not now taxed that creates more than enough money does she have a balanced budget we eliminate the subsidies for the fossil fuel business we eliminate the subsidies for the moronic think tanks like new america foundation and all these other places that just have people going through the motions and chasing money they have no integrity so i'm telling you one of the things that i've done right with this campaign that is starting to take off his firmly insisted from the very beginning that this is a nonviolent revolution and that truth and re conciliation are our hallmarks all we want from the one percent is keep your wealth get out of our way absolutely and that's the thing they always say oh we got to keep economy going humanity is so prosperous if they just get out of our way with all their crony bureaucracy and selective enforcement the wealth and innovation is just startling the way they block quote all the disruptive technologies that's why i think the libertarians are central to the solution well i agree with the end it's very exciting and i mean i the london guardian i mean we already knew this but now it's in the wall street journal than london guardian th buying air strips in the arctic air strips in new zealand air strips in the desert of australia and building armored redoubts and it's not just a few of them i mean they're building them in the ozarks their governments are digging in why why not just fix things and let there be prosperity why gobble up everything and then go all my gosh this kind of collapse and then run to the hills why well i think you really have to understand there's an excellent book called business blindspots by ben a lot and one of the things he points out is that the information that is reaching these people including presidents of countries as well as corporations the information is invariably filtered by a slate or false ok so these people are operating in an alternative reality and one of the things that we have to do is actually get to the point where we can retake the congress we can then start to publish truth rather than google's version of the truth or the obama version of the truth were the seven hundred club version of the truth and i believe we are on the verge of a major convergence and also a major break out all over primary institutions including labor unions the church and the universities have failed to her about to go into resolution three point zero well when you mention the embracing by the disorders in the royal family if you ever gone to like one of the british museums or others and you go through and the the mummies of this king that king this queen they're all literally completely insane and mutated from inner breeding and marrying their sisters and brothers over and over again for five hundred years you look at this and you talk about the ross child the rockefeller's the asters it's a handful of families of every breed with each other and they admittedly i mean the queen of england has most of her siblings are locked up in mental institutions already did most of it and it's very sad but you're absolutely right so many of these elites are well into the good shorty my buddy calls aliens he calls all the rich trust fund kids in austin that we run into can be fifty a trust fund kid they don't know what planet are on they don't know how to tie their shoe laces but they've got brand new ferrari and they say they have no idea what's even going on here well look let me come back to a positive note you talked about the billionaire is one of the things that i've noticed is that warren buffett constant and bill gates have all admitted that not only is the system broken but all of the money they've been giving away to charity and various issues has been wasted all right so what's happening now is there is a growing realization among a critical center of gravity mass that if we set aside the issues if we stop trying to push one thing like lawrence lessig is completely wrong to be focused on getting money out of politics that's a side issue one of the things that i found when i briefed in portland is people's eyes were opened they suddenly realized that electoral reform is is is eleven different things and among them ballot access and paper ballots and hand counting at the polling station and no mail ballots because mail ballots is basically code for fraud all of this stuff matters getting money out of politics makes no difference at all if you still have gerrymandered districts and you keep people from actually being eligible as independents or greens or libertarians to run for office or to be elected so here's the deal wants to make his lenny work for climate change first he has to fund electoral refor and instead a move towards to tell a tarion ism to control things and clearly i think they made that decision in the mame that's the direction they're going on agree with you there's a lot of signs that some of the more sane people in the establishment realize that's going to end up being a bear trap that catches their leg more than it catches the general public's leg but where does this go as not just to the field guy in the cia and actual operations but also as an analyst looking into that crystal ball where does the world go if we don't start reforming well if first off i gotta tell you i was just watching this video of a guy that stripped down to nothing during a t s a search to protest unreasonable search and seizure and i wrote an article that was that was widely read on the two cops that were killed in new york the canary dies also the system is very close to imploding it's unsustainable in its in its current form and it might be able to elect another manchurian candidate in two thousand and sixteen but all indications are that by twenty twenty we have american populism back in power so i'd rather not waste those four years and if people will take a look at the electoral reform act of two thousand and fifteen in the open power concept i believe that we can nonviolently get us back on track and my final phrase there is nothing wrong with the united states of america that can't be fixed and fix quick story integrity to our electoral system and to our government oh i agree is screwed up as things mom like everything they do from this point forward is going to work against them in a in a cellar eating fashion i agree with you that it seems like everything the establishment does now blows up in their face and when i talk to  military or cops or schoolteachers or auto mechanics or farmers that's why i say so many people on the control left when i have a fight a classic commies revolution like the cops are the enemy of the note the cops i found are more alike than anybody they understand the position they've been put him they understand what's happening so how do we aid you really state not just paid and b how do we avert killing the canary in the coal mine as you said when this whole thing kicks off well look i've put forward and frankly i would love to run for president for the reform the green and the libertarian party and that's only until angus king or jon huntsman sits up and pays attention because i'd rather one of them ran for president with a coalition team but the key to victory here is a series of electoral reform workshops around the country the other half of this initiative which is in my little booklet at amazon is the open source activists toolkit which addresses micah sifry is very sound analysis which is we have to learn how to share information and talk to each other but i believe we can have an electoral reform summit in june at which all of the prior political candidates including ralph nader and jesse ventura and cynthia mckinney  and carol moseley braun and so many others bart remarks aubert they all come forward and they all issue a statement of demand now i really want to emphasize that these are not my ideas when i ran for president tw twelve after getting occupy briefed up on electoral reform i was inundated with stakeholders coming to me and so what i have done is i have aggregated the best ideas from across this country on electoral reform and i have put these into a little booklet in a kindle booklet which will also be a create space next week which basically is a starting point for a national dialogue to not under the great cartoon it shows how much power we have there is a play out over a cliff and the one percenter at the end of that play extending on thin air and we the people are standing on the other end of the plane on free ground all we have to do is get off that damn plank that's right in fact we're probably pull that up online just type the one percent plank what we've had on infowars dot com before the one you have is the one tenth of one percent that actually run it all trying to shake the eighty percent on the other nineteen or so when most of the nineteen percent you know that top twenty percent and in that top one percent got their money fair and square employ a bunch of people and are good folks it's that tiny tiny tiny elite that are the real issue and they're actually setting policy globally let's go to who's up first for the g cia operation and that the state department took his visa away so that he would be forced to stay in russia in exile i don't believe that snowden would ever in a been used i think n s a was one blackmail a lot too far and the powers that be started to realize that n s a was doing insider trading to beef up its offshore accounts basically that's what a lot of heavy hitters who told me as it was others between n s a and everybody else basically n s a has finally scared the crap out of the one percent that's set and so they're trying to cut it down to size jets got too big for the britches and there's no didn't know that because here's the deal i've had major whistle is suspicious and someone else i was discussing this with someone else and the whole way in which the snowden operation handled greenwald who i think has been has been scamped they basically isolated greenwal they put him into a little box and so then they started feeding him stuff now let me say i think that what's the outcome of the snowden operation has been uniformly positive i have no problems it was a good move by the elite to start branches as well yes but one of the things we really need in actually obama could make much much more of his last two years in office if he would get in touch with the truth and with ethics because what we have now between chip clap important because it reasserts power of congress over unelected bureaucracy now and i've read the bill it isn't perfect but it is congress is supposed to do this you better believe the f c c taking over the internet is not going to protect it but you also better believe that the republican side wants to be taken over by corporations so we'll talk about the battle for the internet and what google and others are doing with steele who's an expert on some of the next hour right now let's go to a phone call gerald in california you're on the air with our guests go ahead game publisher before the whole idea you know and keeping him so i dove the picture and just putting the information out to the public and the news media i think that created a successful reaction from the public and you know to get everybody worked out what you guys think well i think you're right it was managed very very capably the real question then again one of the one of the tenants and i used to be very very good at covert operations i actually wrote the script for the el salvador story in the one nine hundred eighty s for the entire world i was allowed to bypass headquarters and send the message out to seventeen stations worldwide the key to a successful information operation is to use it truth is use the truth to hide the tr and i think that's part of what's happened here i have no problem with the actual outcome of the snowden operation so far but i do have a problem with the fact that we still have an intelligence community that's costing one hundred billion dollars a year that produces less than four percent of what a major commander needs according to general tony zinni so one of the things i would like to do is create an open source agency which o m b has approved twice and three billion dollars and then i would like to cut the control and totally dishonest the army now has a new model breath out on how lying is in demick to the officer corps and that goes all the way to the chief of staff of the art all right robert stay there we're going to come right back in seventy  expanding are they losing control the situation or is it just a general muslim sectarian war they want a religious war what is the goal looking at this is there a real split was saudi arabia with  s to iran or is that all show is this cover so netanyahu can hit iran and the u s doesn't blame to watch one of the smarter people saying in washington well it's very lucky to have gotten to know many of the smarter people most of whom don't work for the u s government let me explore this at three different levels number one israel's influence in the united states is going to take a sharp downturn gareth porter has an excellent piece out on how israel has been gaming the iranian threat for decades and what i'm starting to see in this is this last visit by the prime minister to congress may have been the straw that broke the camel's back there are six million jews in the united states and the amount of financial and political influence they have is grotesque when you compare that to the larger population of three hundred million or more six million so i think that israel's ability to manipulate the s government is about to take a sharp downturn in the lies that israel zionist israel not the good jews of israel have been telling are about to take a hit number two iran is not a threat it never has been a threat it is not a threat  it is a long term strategic player and one of the most popular slides graphics on my website is the one that shows the shoes sunni shia split the united states of america dick cheney  prayed to chalabi who was an arabian asset and it was dick cheney that created the turmoil in the middle east the shiites of iraq were under saddam hussein's thumb so we have basically created this opportunity for  reassert itself as a major power and turkey is also reasserting itself as a major sure can you ever get rid of iran and iraq once they're in what's that i mean to once you let iran into place how do you ever get them out well i'm not sure that's our problem i would like to get us out of the middle east and bassett or mark palmer wrote an excellent book called breaking the real axis of evil what the american taxpayer has to understand is it in our name and bill blooms book on killing and his latest book on one american nemesis is very important we are best pals with forty two of the forty four dictators on the planet and most of those dictators are in the middle east the united states government in our name supports dictators and part of the thing people don't understand is that the reason nato is so out of control this because nato is how the us military industrial complex sells arms subsidized by the us taxpayers to dictators who are screwing their own publics in order to buy larger palaces and less but not least i think it's extraordinarily important to understand that we have been grossly irresponsible the department of state under kerry under hillary clinton going all the way back to madeline albright who once described herself as a jerk bull on a wheel which i think is an accurate description of the average us secretary of state these people are insane they're criminally insane and they're very uninformed and they're very unethical and hypocritical and they're not representing the public interest in the middle east i can't disagree with a word he just said we'll be right back but i want to throw one more big question at him we see the secretary of defense before hagel was basically kicked out the world more dangerous now than it's ever been more jacob rothschild came out yesterday and told members of  the same thing in a press release we've got the former fed chairman greenspan saying some more things what are they trying to warn us or do they want to look like they were trying to help him if things go south what do you make of the proxy war in ukraine where is that going the situation with china geopolitically just give us a brief assessment well the brief the brief assessment is that they're lying to us the world is only more dangerous to the one percent it's not more dangerous than ninety nine percent of the brics and particularly russia india and china and iran and indonesia which most people overlook but indonesia is easily one of the future superpowers in the twenty first century these countries are all committed to to peaceful growth they can't afford a war and they don't want a war and last but not least it breaks my heart that for less than five percent of what the one percent have under management the trillions and trillions of dollars and false wealth i mean it's obscene that the cox should be making three million dollars an hour any interest on their digital money for less than five percent of what they have under management i can give every person on this planet a full time salary a house that does not leak running water free energy and an internet connection that's right of the studies have been done there are legion a literal renaissance a platform to the stars instead you read all the globalist finance futurist they're saying humanity is dumb we're going to merge with machines humanity's crap the leader to live forever i mean this is really a very marie antoinette let them eat cake type world view bodies and bread crazy people well not only that but i i frankly consider the people who worry about artificial intelligence as a as a next essential threat to be inherently dishonest i worry about artificial stupidity the absolute last thing we want to do is automate the morons that we've got in charge now i agree that's the danger is creating automated autonomy of systems that these people are in control of because they don't even have generals or colonels or or operatives or the people the say no that's the best thing about humanity is it can learn how to say no in the moment i mean i love that movie war games where the two guys are told to do the they trigger war that submarine movie where  denzel washington stops the captain from watching a nuclear war on on not russia now people don't remember but in the cuban missile crisis it was a soviet submarine commander that refused in order to launch a missile attack people forget that i'm going to world war three tell that story folks i don't remember who don't know about it well in the cuban missile crisis first off the cuban missile crisis was cia's first attempt to destroy john f kennedy that was never intended the bay of the bay of pigs i'm sorry it was cia's first attempt to destroy kennedy in the cuban missile crisis we ended up doing a blockade and there are two facts that matter the first is that unbe notes to their governments kennedy and  in direct private communication and they both agreed that their worst biggest problem and the greatest threat to human peace was their respective generals and second it was a soviet submarine commander that refused  order to sink a u s navy vessel enforcing the blockade that kept cuba from going to world war three that's right and it was general colonel slim a that they famously have the part of his have operation northwoods which jim bamford has made famous look it is not possible to overstate the lack of integrity at the highest levels of the us government and particularly the highest levels of our uniform services and our senior executive service in the department of defense william binney has said it best these people exist to keep the problems going and the money movie they have a severe lack of integrity and they are not at all committed to the public interest but now they've got nuclear weapons of music about all of mistakes dictators and people made like hitler starting a war with russia when he was already losing wars in north africa i mean that's what's scary is the elite really could start world war three and are moving in that direction their very unstable well i would i would also draw your attention to the damage being done every day by by industry i mean bull paul for example i was reading a very very useful piece in counterpunch in which we ought to make it illegal for any industrial process to produce any poison for which we do not have a solution there is a wonderful book by trolls parer who wrote the book normal accidents dealing with high risk technologies he's written a more recent book on catastrophe he points out that there is a tank of chlorine sitting above the superhighway going into new york city in new jersey that if you can put a hole in that thing and light it on fire you will there but what is important is what real sleeper teams of special forces like five guys for city could do dumping chlorine down skyscrapers blowing up chlorine tanks stuff like that which any real terrorists know about i mean real terrorist don't sit there and you know have seventy five i q's and you know try to do a truck bomb that the f b i could it just if there was real terrorism folks we would know about it and then there you are mentioning things that would kill hundreds of thousands you don't need a dozen a nuke let me give  two bottom lines first off there's a book called dying to win the people that we are confronting are not terrorists they're freedom fighters and we are invading their homeland the absolute stupidest thing the u s government could do is put ground forces into the there to draw us into war so that we can force the american taxpayer to pay for a new military to do a new elective war this is corruption this is treason well i mean it's so obvious that i just work for the west and it's been admitted that's another thing why are the elite getting so reckless i mean used to i studied you know different operations and things and they never seem to be reckless or am i wrong i think you're right alex i think what you're seeing is the last spasms of an out of control system i have a i have a guest review coming up of the new book and you know there have been a number of of excellent books by my girl and others on on secrecy and the empire and so forth what major book by an insider that essentially demonstrated that the entire financial system is rigged and it's still writ i mean i personally think that not just greece but spain and portugal and everybody else should tell goldman sachs to take a hike on these people these bankers the debt that exists today is not actually debt it's interest the debt has already been paid off these people have made their money and more in fact they create money that they don't have a right to create well and they try to see interest they don't have a right to collect this is all fraudulent what we need to do and there's a lot of good stuff coming up for me cobol and collaborative economy and so forth richard wolffe i've mentioned before we need to put workers back in charge of production we need to eliminate absentee landlords we need to eliminate private banking i love ellen brown's book on public banking that's absolutely huge and the long in the short of it is we need to re store local currencies and we need to restore value base based on people land and labor by the way this show stan c n n fans prepare criminal charges against senator menendez for political corruption basically pushing deals as political donors they'll have to indict all of them but you do you see a purging starting to happen here why do you think that's why are they going after hillary for these fake e mails and obviously breaks the law but a bunch of them do it i'm not defending or but why are we seeing this she's in now a political indictment political distractions is that trying to throw the public a bone that some reforms having happening well that the left and the right are starting to position themselves for twenty sixteen i mean i personally think that the absolute best thing that could happen for democracy is jeb bush versus hillary clinton because that makes angus king and his coalition team an absolute shoo in i think that's what deeper groups in the deep state now want to get rid of jeb and hillary as they realize that will that will really cause an overthrow their system is that what you're getting at yes i am that's what i was saying earlier before you got on was they're going after the dirtiest people right now to try to make the system look clean because they realize you alex they're not going after the dirtiest people if they were going after the dirtiest people epstein would have been hung by now oh i agree with you i mean like visible yes this is a token ok this poor guy hold on to one more segment that you're saying then i want to hold you over have you finish up with this next segment robert david field five more minutes with us in a federal investigation two years ago he agreed of about fifty eight thousand dollars so i agree with what mr steele was just saying earlier that they're going after mid level nobody's for small corruption i'm saying some of the worst nastiest people  hillary clinton and end as people that are publicly there with bigger scandals like he has of a sexual nature and other things that have come out so what they're doing is throwing a few bones t dog but it shows how they'll never go after folks for really big issues finishing up with your statement on that of then one final phone call well don't worry i believe that the governor of virginia was taken down because he was small enough to crucify curates always for some little petty thing some vitamin company or something it's just mean all giant huge levels of corruption are taking place i mean is it a war crime drug government to fund the syrian free syrian army mainly member of al qaida and have them run around and engage in mass murder and then turn around three years later and say we've got to have war whether now i think it's treason for the united states government to being gauged in a war that has all of the checks and balances have gone i mean i've got a i have got a video coming out soon but i prefer a book called the power and the ambition it used to be that congress executed article one of its responsibilities as a balance of power but when newt gingrich destroyed speaker right he turned that members into a voting bloc that is sold to the highest bidder so congressman today don't actually read legislation they vote the way they're told because their vote has been sold by their party that's what we have to get rid of that's right that's what they should laugh and say we don't read the bills we don't read our e mails from you either you know we just go play golf and you know we make money part of the problem that you learn is that congress has to spend seventy five percent of its time begging for money and then when they get caught actually getting the money to be in congress they get sent to jail just scare the rest of the herd to play ball let's go to one final call or i'll take the rest of our guest leaves us country back and i view the ones that are truly in control of our system our electorate electoral system and everything else the crude analogy of dalian they solder on the human host because when you go to try to take that thing off it's going to kill you and till it's done it's dirty work and so my thought is to you what is your thought on if we do if they see that we're starting to take back and truly have a constitutional republic where actually our boat means something don't you think that they're going to basically say ok we've lost control of america so we're going to release whatever well you know the station or want to lay more bushes and clintons on our stomachs and then scurry off and i think it's really really critical to make the observation that we're offering them an exit strategy we're offering them a nonviolent truth and reconciliation exit strategy and if they don't want that if they want to  have this is not about burning down their mansions this is about shooting their lear jets out of the sky ok i don't think they understand how many pissed off veterans are capable of shooting down a lier jet today so they have a choice they can get out of the way and accept an exit strategy that is not well and that does not go after their existing well organized well it should certainly going down that road what do you make in sixty seconds of the russia ukraine situation who's really behind it where's it going i think the united states government is behind it because we actually lost a revolt there we've substituted a corrupt fascist government for a corrupt communist government we broke our word to russia an expanding nato into eastern europe the bottom line is the united states as martin luther king said long ago is the single most destabilizing toxic force on the planet well powerful interview mr steele thank you so much for your time today it was very enlightening god bless america for to have you back on his election ea