at first i was very nervous talking to front people and as time went on i got very pretty good i thought and i mentioned to one of the other pastors i said i think i got the hang of this and he said to me you know mike they can't leave  something a little nervous bear with me because it's been a while but we'll get through this i work on it and for what i do is i'm an instrument tech or an industrial automation technician and what i do is work on unique instruments that monitor these schools the teachers instrumentation so fortunately we have the school post to air for because we have about seventy five instrument techs out there on staff and our job is very important because we're the ones that keep track of all this waste it's our job to keep track of every small drop so it doesn't excuse me about a year and a half ago maybe almost two years i want to my instruments detected  a deal with the problem of the time they had other issues and so i'm going to give a minute to set up some more props here but earth is going to play a little video from one of the interviews i did with king five kind of lead into what this is one spot at hanford the public is never allowed to go under good the most hazardous material on earth is brewing in fighting a million gallon double  holding the nastiest of nasty stuff at hanford a year and a half ago might get free who works for a hamper contractor but no one expected evidence that with leaking if so it would be the first double shell tank radioactivity ever seen by current employees five months after that equipment got stuck to the tank floor and indicator it was glued to sticky waste complained a lot about it you know i made a lot of statements of what we're going to do after all that the employed here at hanford came across the way the biggest red flag of all the experts they should have spent their managers squirreling to find answers a broken wire similar to this one behind the glass was pulled out of the space between the shelves it gave off an extremely hot radiation reading one that sucked the workers but not the managers they didn't call for more investigation instead they kept to their rainwater theory it's hard to believe that you could get this much advance warning of a problem and not deal with that market how to open it the top radiation expert located in massachusetts is going to hanford many times i really don't know what it's going to take what's go for an on camera interview but they told us their experts disagree they said contamination readings were well below what would've been expected from tank waste and that the alleged red flags were investigated and a term and unlikely to be caused by a leak sleep nights even consider ditching his long and successful career they took t just was just didn't enjoy it and you know it's hard to go to work and to fight so hard to the red light but get every state on the job and was there to see this photos of not rain water but nuclear me it's still hard to watch because per year i worked very hard to do my job and until suzanne i tar i hadn't talked to anybody about what happened i had kept it all  it's hard to watch that because i just kind of had held the lead in for a long time and through the interviews we did with king five it farming came out and i was able to talk about it and it really you know it's still botching to think that i was that miserable at work trying to just do my job i mean nobody should go to work and try to work that hard to do the right thing should be a little work and just do it right and be rewarded for that and i wasn't being rewarded for doing my job and i know i make you good living getting paid for what i do but that there's more to it than that there's more to just getting paid i want i want to be clean out there i want to go boating on the climate river not worry about  materially on the banks or you're going fishing and worried about fish and i catch i've got some kind of nuclei dinham i don't want that to happen i mean so to me there's i have a lot vested enough there are a lot more than i think in the there i'm i'm still going to go fishing and i don't want that place to be a mess i don't want my kids to have to deal with it i don't want my grandkids to have you know you know my grandfather's generation created this mess i mean or made the decisions to do what they did i had nothing to do with it so i'm just out there responsible for trying to clean it up well sad to say that if we get hit by running it'll be another forty years before we're done making las out of the waste so that means your children or grandchildren will be cleaning up that us i won't be around here in two thousand and sixty two and we'll be six generations removed still trying to clean  up something we did in the forty's it was it was done for a very good reason then but we still right now have a responsibility to get it cleaned up so that was no longer and i wanted to do and i had a little demonstration i so a lot of you may ask how did we get in this mess in the first place why i want to kind of explain to real quick how words this is my carefree use two minute chemistry class ok so what we got here is that the nuclear reactors we into i think to thirty eight something naturally in the ground in the earth and we took this uranium and made composite together through fission we even created other nucular elements so what we what we got here this is your fuel rod that came from the reactors and they actually were about this size and they had your radium well it's inside of them and after ninety days of the in the reactor in a close group the adams split themselves invade new a the things we use for twenty m bombs the problem with this is only three percent of the elements are usable the other ninety seven percent are the nucular elements that we don't want strong c m cesium iodine that have no purpose for us those are the elements that we're dealing with now so imagine this years our tank you know and this is holding our nuclear waste this little shot glass would be how much we used in weapons production and in reality it would be the shot glass and l quill once between what we used and what we made is waste so if you take this stuff after you dissolve the fuel rods it almost looks like mountain dew it's actually so there is what you had after we took our fuel rods we dissolved them we came up with a shot glass of usable plutonium and we also we had was about fifty three million gallons of nuclear waste something that was the byproduct of making general bombs so what my job has been for the last twenty six years is to watch that nuclear waste take care of so this has been my baby for twenty six years my glass  is and i measured i watch it i tested you know and for twenty six years that's what i've been doing day in day out and it sounds kind of boring has at times it is i've calibrated piece of equipment that monitors to have probably thousands of times a temperature monitor the monitors the temperature i've calibrated hundreds of thousands of times and always we're always looking for her positive things negatively nothing negative because nothing negative is ever supposed to happen out of hand for but when something does things things go a little strange on us and that's the case that happened for me in twenty eleven i went on to calvert a piece of equipment that they told me had quit working over the weekend it was a device  that actually sits around the tank and it just monitors for stuff to leak out and this equipment we calibrate once a month to make sure it's operating right they can i came in monday they told me hey mi working right and i said well why isn't the working right they said well it's measuring something so as an instrument tech we're always trained believe your equipment so i didn't always a debate well maybe we have a problem now we never have problems out here it can't be a problem so they sent me out to look at my equipment i go out i check my computer urn it's a monday morning and i've got a nice weekend get out there at my hers look in an island oh that's it jan everything's working she she kind of looks at me really i see how it's worked and it shows we got a half inch of leaking fluid in the done this easily ten thousand times with this same result so no again here we go again computers are and jan has a geiger meter it's a little has too talking about our weekend takes about five minutes for this thing to come up and al can there's a site last week it looked at the radiation readings were so high that she doesn't work any more and we carry this other thing out with it's called in our own twenty zero twenty measures what kind of dose rate your actually works you know all these calibrations almost up and now it's working so i get on the radio call them majerus and we've got a serious problem on here i think we've got a leaking tank now saying those words leaking today at hanford is like saying bomb on an airplane or fire in a movie theater but you don't really calm i mean you're calm in the realist there's ten thousand people listening to we got a leaking take i think the magic comes across you better come on in so i did i went into the offices and showed them what i ad explained it to them and those reality i don't think really sunk into them that we had a problem but we really did i think i've got two minutes it's like the academy awards you know the music starts point and you've got it gone so ok so make a short will shorten it up here so any how long story short i spent the next ten months trying to convince adage meant that we had a problem that we had a tank our first couple show tank that was leaking a bad indicator because these tanks are supposed to store this waste until we're done processing it which could be two thousand and sixty two we're not close to that these tanks are meant to last fifty years this one is fifty years old i think it just celebrate its birthday not too long ago so what's our next step unfortunately my management and the government doesn't have a next step that worries me you know in this business when you finally find a problem time is not on your side you've got to go on unfortunately we wasted a year debating whether we had a leak or not and sometimes you know out of hand for it bad news is not a good thing and you know it's not that we all want to hear but it's the we got to face so i think my time's up i can speak for hours you know and for my passion spent my life for twenty six years and i hope that you can get involved and become more interested we need a lot of smart young bright people like you out there after work and have heard so thank you professionally in this country and now the largest public their claim and they're going to clean it up that claimed a long time ago and there are statistics you should be aware of i'm going to read something tom carpenter and bob alvarez put together are back in two thousand and two over the past why water hits that water back up two miles back and that eventually when the water drops on the river you're going to wash up material going back into the river so we have a magnificent problem and some of you may wonder why is the one nation involved as perhaps most of you may know we have a treaty with the united states of america a contract we have is going to supposed to last until the end of time not a l seventy seven order and that already studied had for a year and what they were going to consider was to bring all the wish from the world t our arm or whatever but as they tried to claim in the institutional controls about are you and i know that these markers are not a lot of offense doesn't last long all became aware of a shit i did and started to try to determine what was is after i couldn't get an answer i want to know what is coming through our so we were finally elated one day passed after nineteen eighty two we immediately filed our back to status and resumes about april of nineteen eighty three justify barry and his material their nerve the surface of the earth which is going to continue to compound the situation on into the future and what day is  that there is going to be another league an explosion in the late eighty's and early ninety's one the one that's why was it started to burbery hundred twenty a day contaminate the region yeah one nation has nowhere to go our culture is in the ground through the foods and not a lot of the all the grown for millennia when i turn to burger king and kentucky fried i get diabetes and so we are consistently try to determine how best to clean the side up i did read a map of the area well the next time but it showed that our area of travel was to canada and montana arizona california in the cold and then one oregon and washington became a territory we had a twelve million acre reservation rids from well beyond rainier the protect the prudes of medicine is not are there some only grows on the area so i know i have a limited time here but we need to determine yeah come on asian is more than willing to work with anyone to try and make the public aware our own people aware of the the matters up we all face the major issues that we have and i hope that you can put into your mind the future that you must look  and so we talked about how the incentives are greater than the penalties so is thomas talking about people will do things by breaking the law because the penalties aren't enough to outweigh getting your sent there for things happen that are supposed to  there it was about two billion dollars extra in the two billion dollars they usually get and the problem with the with that money was that they had very strict deadlines where you had to get the  the work done by a certain time or you did not get paid and the the site some some of the contractors that site i don't like crazy and for instance one contractor tore down fourteen huge people under oath and reading them their miranda rights because this was such a serious violation but nonetheless the company was dilke compensated you know for meeting those deadlines in the penalties were were very small compared to what you know you'll ologist and shop with your feet promised never to do it again but in the end what's really going to count is that you got paid a lot of money and there's so many examples out there like that i'd be here till midnight talking about it and the system is really broken that way it's it's way too much about money than it is about it and my keppra is right there is a lot of good stuff that happens out there  however there's also you know a lot that gets by that doesn't you know that there's not good accountability and there just needs to be better accountability that's taxpayer money and there needs to be more people watching what's how this money's being used there needs to be more daylight between the regulators and these companies that are out there to make money they're unabashed about it right that's what they're in business for and they know what the rules are and if the rules allow them to question the audience yes go ahead all of the operating still needs that were involved with plutonium production are shut down that a lot of groups but the two together with you they are very totally separate and but they each have their own issues and with the fuel rods at it that is the circuit there is out there but that is very much different than the and willing to speak out against these kinds of issues kind of wondering what your experience has been like after you've spoken out your relationship with your players like wow it's actually been really good surprisingly i  across a report that was written our company in january i don't think was meant for me to see it was five hundred pages of an assessment or not this tank and when i read it i became very frustrated because it had just started work  teacher and i redlined it and i wrote all everything that was accurate true in it and i gave that to say i don't write and thinking this is it would take this and read this on the air make everything straight well unfortunately for ability reasons you need someone that can go on camera and point out the problems and it just so happened i was the one that found the book and i was the one that recognizably first well then the process went along with the interviews and i really didn't feel nervous about the situation because i felt very confident that i was doing the right thing and that the information i had is all documented it were that i was access to the public  and so the next when the story first came out i went to work i was the first time i got a little nervous and in the pastors and describe all the boys that cause disruption at work and there was actually they came to work and had for patrol was there met them in their office i took their security badge from them and even a ride home so that that person to have the story i kept looking around on the corners to see if they had for patrol is mistaken me out  little nerve wracking but what happened was amazing thing because i got to work and i was kind of in a weird way of celebrity amongst my coworkers i got i got high fives and hugs people said you know thank you for wh doing and i got a bag of cookies and someone's wife sent a bag of cookies to work she said to her husband why did you do this you know why didn't you do what he did what does he have to do so by himself one of the four guys out there throw himsel whistleblower i kind of look at myself as a guy that's in a band and i just play the  right that what we did there was create the plutonium to fuel up bomb that we dropped on civilians in japan and that was actually evil and until we acknowledge that it's very hard to clean up this mess and i think you might be in the best position to address and like me i'm fighting to maintain that land where and which i grow up it's it's ironic that you go out there and you put your life on the line like my father and based upon the potential liability of the united states of america how to prove whether or not foods are safe and it covers all the food that is necessary profession to this problem and to hope that more questions will ensue like the lady i asked the question my answer to the one question is that the corporate structures seem to consider th school and maintain today most of the other goes to contractors are they clean enough i have a difference of opinion on many you