otherwise known as dalian thirteen hands he is a musician performer educator speaker he leads care tahn and yoga he has recorded fifteen albums and plays over thirty instruments he's going to share his story and perform so stay where you are as positive energy starts right now so i'm here with dahlia in thirteen hands welcomes a positive energy thank you for welcoming to this wonderful show mashal positive that a d can you feel the positive and yes i can yes yes yes yes so tell us why you call yourself thirteen hands what does that reference thirteen hands many years ago was the name of the band that i put together with two very dear friends and the name just always felt really mystical and kind of powerful in its own cool way and then when the band separated we all went our separate ways obviously i was i was continuing with music and getting heavily involved with sound and sharman as in yoga the name just really continued to evolve along with my path as far as its it relationship to just energy and the fact that i do lots of things you know it kind of is interesting how i play over thirty instruments and use them in a therapeutic and musical setting along with yoga so and yoga we have movie drives which are just hand positions to actually move energy and postures and the malaysian martial arts system thirteen hands is again a key energy principle within in the forms of thirteen key hampers additions at the end of strikes where the cheek of the prawn cheek in martial arts is moving to its highest potential through the fingers and i like a little synchronicities yeah it's really really overlap there yeah i was really kind of just sticking with it you know it feels good so i know that you your background partly is that you suffered from a whole bunch of different malady and we don't want to have to go into all of them and relive those but what you did kind of heal yourself using spiritual practices and holistic methods and that sort of has fast forward you to what you're doing today so say a little bit about that well you know like all of us we have a path we have it says and i belive that was your risk and eloquently we call them land mines that go off at various times of our lives for whatever our karma you can believe in the contract that you're supposed to have with god as you go through trying to become a better human being and we're all getting our butt kicked at various points mine just started really early with head trauma sleigh riding that threw off my back and then a year later my dad was killed in a plane crash on work and we were fighting and we had very harsh words and then that was it so sometimes you know the emotional stress and the anger that you don't get to work through especially when you don't have closure emotionally with certain types of experiences which i'm sure we all can relate to there in t v land and it's just this journey of how the body absorbs all of the stress all these emotions all these feelings and then i had the structural trauma and then by the time i was twenty one everything was just like you know cro to help you with i mean there's so many and then you know and that's great you bring that out it's a combination well it is and i think for everyone it's different like you do the same types of work and provide great healing services to when you're working with yourself and other people you know you've got the menu and you've got the painters palate but it's always about the particular order in which you use which color first of what will work better for that particular person will be you and probably a little bit of your belief in you and your intention behind it yeah in your openness so a lot of it was just trying to get the food  back on track so i mean around twenty one when they had all these you know labels i don't want to call them diagnosis is because i just don't believe in that i just like this is where the body was just kind of crying out for help more or less and so i just kind of looked at it from that point of view and so is the brain in the gut are completely at war and then you're dealing with depression and all the different you know other symptoms that are tied to circulatory and respiratory and digest of health food and just finding the ten foods i could my twenty's using food and then yoga acupuncture chiropractic to help with the back injury from the sleigh riding accident before my dad died so there was one once one year after the next there was always a new thing to add on to the painter's palate  and then it just kept going and then raw food seven year journey with one hundred percent raw food that week grass yeah man and that was really what took it to the next level to repair and i feel great knock on wo and just trying to use the tools and really feel when the body is it's interesting for help i'm sure your intuition hopefully guided you through that and then you have to trust that the next thing will kind of come to you and and it does and it and i love the message teach teenagers and adults in various settings and you talk a lot of it about stress and the connection between stress in the mind in the body so what you know why i guess your passion about that because of your own journey and because you want to help yeah what's your main message around stress and how people can kind of help themselves like well you know if we can get people really tapping in to their their sleeping patterns better and understanding that  parasympathetic nervous system response for sleep digestion elimination you know because all of the cleansing and healing process is in the body or parasympathetic nervous system responses so i always joke about you keep calm crap on you need to be calm to has gone before but seriously like all the things that our bodies are doing kidneys cleaning the blood filtering out toxins all the stuff that's going on behind the scenes is the foundation for all of the general health in the work to help support the emotional breakthroughs we do  and whatever else we're doing it's again it's a it's a just trying to get those foundational things in check i really try to always impart that that main foundation of wisdom almost like a trinity sleep digestion elimination as the foundation and then as we start to explore we can kind of you know fine tune and tweak things as needed emotionally physically spiritually nutritionally energetically yeah i mean this is a beautiful machine that we're living in it's perfect it's born perfect and you're right we have to do the things and take care of our self right you know on all levels on all levels because it's all connected let's segue that into talking a little bit about sound and and music because that's such a big part of what you do and offer and why you're doing as well as you're doing and i love the power of sound  yeah as a healing modalities so why is it why is music such a powerful force when it comes to healing in your mind well on a basic conversation regarding physics you know every organic life for has sailor structure rather be human or a planter animal or a bug you know has a resonating frequency at which it vibrates so if we take that basic fundamental law of physics and apply it to everything we know how powerful sound and vibration is on the human body especially if we're talking about wellness and health so you know think of it this way you know somebody studied or measured with e g f on the brain that the brain is like releasing thirty thousand thoughts a day i mean that's mind boggling to think i never thought has a vibration right now so it's becomes it's own specific musical know almost like a dog whistle that only the body can hear right because dog whistles can only be heard by their doggies and so those frequencies in those neural limbic electrical impulses  hormonal releases are in their own ecosystem underneath the hood of our own car so as we learn to appreciate that and have a and learn more about it so that we can make the empowered decisions to do better and do right by it so sound vibration music we know how calming music can be and we know how aggravating is it can be you know and so it's just trying to understand that and harness that more yes or deliberately we might as well we are vibrational being so  getting my braces do we want to introduce we know that will be helpful and healthy and productive for us yeah and that's been really cool because if you go back and research the work of royal rife back in the late twenty's this guy was like the tesla of our time but when it came to like cellular understanding of targeting and finding the exact frequencies for specific parts of the body viruses cancers tumors your spleen everything and he was able to use or they call the right machine but he had created a telescope that was able to go in and he could kind of then send a low current and then dial by donna like six thirty two point five hundred sixty two point six hours and he would go and he has the workers on line and then they came in and they you know they shot him down you know but this was really a long time ago but it really is starting to and just really hope using this as an extra support tool for people that need that extra experience to just know how to feel the breath get deep down in the diaphragm like we were in the crib as a baby when that's all we knew how to do  and cry you know soon there's this beautiful retraining repatterning of the nervous system so we can really feel how and feel that power of oxygen and that breath as it relates to bringing balance to the body and music just you coddle the brain to get out of its way yass you know as and you can receive an open so you're bringing you know educating people who may not be as you know up to speed on and these lovely therapies talk briefly because i know we want to hear you play a little bit just about what types of venue's or in events you find yourself in alzheimer's recovery foster homes and staff caring for caregiver going into businesses corporations have been on wall street or going with very stressed out day traders you know who don't sleep well you know it's just this whole pattern of street meryl streep i did to cure myself all kind of are integrated into these multiyear services that can go they go everywhere and anywhere they're needed colleges talk some of been a professor of yoga fifteen years so getting it to our younger generations is importance of that they've got tools we didn't have so that you can g anybody younger than us a ten year head start and when we had them that's evolution how do they respond to this what's been the greatest response to just b c people smile you see them relax after they have big yeah you know when they come out i'm obviously you know an experience even if it's like a personal building or professional development workshop i mean there is exercise there is experience of components there's movement there's yoga but when they come out of a shell monic journey so to speak with sound and music to just kind of bring it lead them very  very gently into the deeper aspects of their nervous system function it's the thing that is like we call sandpaper for the soul it's just so smoothing and so calming that no matter who you are what you do or where you come from or what kind of stress you  what your challenges are how old you are everybody say mr universal if you think of human experience so can you demonstrate the power of sound a little bit on with the instruments yet you have brought with you that's a need of american idol american fluted so it's my go to i guess i have a very strong connection to the flutes and native american music especially clarinet was my first instrument so it was it just was the thing that always seemed to kind of stay knowledge with everyone so just sit back wherever you are take a deep breath close your eyes and just get comfortable either if you're on the cowards of you while i down on the floor whatever you know you feel you're capable and just start to hear your breathing and then just let some i'll just try to offer  i thank you thank you for that yeah he would have thought so that's what people get to experience and it is directly experience hell yeah there's no it has to kind of have a union thing where we're educating and sharing and getting into the kind of the the meat and potatoes of the knowledge in the theory but then to actually lead people through the door to feel it yeah so you can feel the knowledge and feel that is what should be for him that's the next lodge and not you know in other ways it is just theory and it's a talk and we're trying we're our whole problem right we're so overly cerebral now we're feeling beings we're all factory the sensory beings you know so and then we process so if we can just have that openness convex shape but they come in different sizes different metal thicknesses some people are using propane bbq grill tanks and recycling them and they get them into instruments it's really kind of expanded into this incredible field of u will you know reach out to you to check out what you do i know you're in a lot of different places and you have over the place you have such a bag of tools and tricks to really to really offer people and and i appreciate that you really brought that you know here to positive energy so any any final thoughts as we as we wrap up just you know thank you again for this opportunity to connect and stay connected for those who watch the show i mean it's really important time on the planet i think we're all sensing we're trying to really just figure out how to really be happy you know without pop an appellate running to some vice or some substance as a form of escapism we're really trying to help each other find the right tools for better self care and the really just or wrapping up another enlightening show thank you to my guest dahlia and thirteen hands thank you sharon mary my director thank you monday morning flowers for the beautiful floral arrangement and thank you for watching remember you're an amazing beautiful the von bundle of potential just waiting to be revealed let your light shine next time positive energy