from santa barbara california we bring you that which is that which is presented by john rogers the founder and spiritual director of an ass and the movement of spiritual and our awareness a movement dedicated to  spiritual heart within each of us this seminars and titled dept of fear or height of courage right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about the don't dream unless you're prepared to uphold your dream don't wish for an issue prepared to go towards it it's not going to be delivered to you you're going to deliver yourself to it if you're not going to you should get up now and walk out the door and not waste any more time sitting here because there's more failure for you out there in here it's really imperative that you go for success and this is called at all costs because if you go for failure you're going to lose the value being on the planet success is determined by how you feel about yourself with the work you do no other major rob how you feel about it not how i feel about it how somebody else feels or thinks about it you if you want to be creative do the job you do more completely more fully more actively and you will be into creativity creativity isn't rubbing a magic lantern and having a genie appear in the say bring me all the food when you get to be some of our ages that we are here instead of having mirrors on the ceiling you have mirrors over the dining room table because food is the the prime thing that you get interested in later on you young you young people wait to get older some of you say i'm older already this just a factor called existence that takes place with us just just existing standing here is a job you think all that's easy now when you have energy of spirit pouring down on you gravity pulling on you a negative thinking pressuring you and then you're trying to stand here and look good in this particular world you have to spoil yourself if somebody else spoils you they cripple you if you get somebody to do all the things for you soon as they lean on you and you're doing it they now have control they're empowered by whatever you gave them if you've got a lot of money just lots of money and you can pay to have all these things done as much as you can pay to have done will be the measure of the crutches you have to have and you don't believe that it's true when we give up our self reliance and self sufficiency we give up the important part of us take another as you do feel it i'm talking about existence now don't take the next five i'm talking about that also at some point you're going to be forced into it because existence insists upon itself and relying upon itself so then why do we ask for money to help put things up well you just go out and get it that's what i'm doing right now that's why you're here and i'm doing my part to make it work those who are participating have caught the vision you have to go and share your part with them see it's not my vision enjoy choose good illusions don't choose bad ones good gravy is a stupid to choose a bad allusion you add stupid why it gets to be bad enough in a good illusion choose a bad one your palette on you you're stopping yourself before you start well that's a real profound thing i don't know if you know it but god is a horse we just don't know which one somebody said it was pegasus others said is a unicorn well until we find out which frog is the prince you have to kiss a lot of frogs right but as a matter of fact in the piece awareness trainings we've been having we go over to wyndham near and get some really great reports from people who've had astounding about life about themself that they didn't know they really had and they walk up to some of these clydesdales that are well one of them i have one she could put her head on her head on my head that's pretty tall if she her head in my head i'd go on the ground she's she's pretty big and they've been by these creatures you know if you saw these big clydesdales running towards you you would freak out i when i go up there i watch where the clydesdales and charlie charlie is the he's to pull the disney trolley and main street down disneyland beautiful palomino charlie won't have a thing to do with me i think he's afraid i'm a put him to work because everything comes around me i put to work i've got something for him to do to further this goal that we're looking at how does everyone who wants to get to participate where we go around the country go around the world setting up services workshops events seminars spiritual things we writ books discourses mused papers oh good golly just about anything and here we go we started doing it why on earth would we do it you know it's very simple it works it's good it's available your participation is required on a lot of levels one of the levels that you quoted on is physically be there to be involved here tonight is part of your requirement you're here physically to be involved when you go to your work you go physically to be involved you say in both of my work if i don't take my mind with me or there's another level take your mind with you take your brains with you good gravy when you come to things that i deal with bring your brains am i like to see what brains look like they've been such a dearth of them for so it's a long time i'm not talking about the mind to get the thinking in here get the emotions in here get yourself in here and bring your fears and your angers and your frustrations and your mediocrity bring it all because that's what we are as human beings we deal in that that's more prevalent than dollars and there are a lot of dollars out there in the world and the commodities we have are more much more except who wants to buy it not a great question who wants to buy the negative things you have to sell and so why do you trade in that so i don't know better if i knew better i would do better there's informational knowing if you read a book it says how to do better is right here this book instruction in places to get up and go do this thing right now physically and you have to do that you know what you do you come to that place read it and keep reading to see what you do when you get back and you will never go do the thing that it says to do that is the experience for the next part of information we're missing so much of our life because we've gone into an information age we deal with information gossip rumors rumors of gossip information about information for and i've read so many informations for how to do well i don't think i'm really unique in that how many of you have ever bought something sort of new like baby a video cassette recorder or something along that line maybe it was how to put together something for a toy for christmas and you open it up and it looks like what a mess and you start put it together without ever reading directions see what i'm talking about you're the wind beneath my wings i'm not getting off the ground that's what we're telling people bring your brains read the directions when all else fails good gravy read it my mother god bless her she's one of god's funny characters she knew more recipes in her mind of how to do things if it's just not enough you finish great love for him because you know just how much it is we have an instinct ability that works and work to use that but that instinctive ability doesn't work in all the cases and if you don't have your mind going when you come up against that you can't read the recipe you can't do it is talking to a very bright young man he was bright he told me he was bright and he said he's very intelligent and he didn't want to waste his time reading discourses don't thought you'd see it my way i said no no i'm not saying what you think i'm saying i'm saying don't waste your time i'm not saying don't read discourses just don't waste your time use that time valuably while you're doing it if you do anything from this time on make it valuable if you sit down to relax make it valuable relax if your mind takes out the stars think of things bring it back tell it that it needs the experience of the quiet body tell your mind now if you're telling your mind who's just doing the talking you but when you are tied up with these things that go out in the world the mind emotions boy it can just turn on you and fire bank it's really very very rare to your mind has good news for you the difference between an achiever and one who fails is the achiever has a positive outcome in vision the loser has a disaster in vision as the outcome those are the differences what if this goes wrong i'm not saying don't look at the potential you fix that and focus on the positive what if it hasn't happened yet just to put it down hold and go for the positive what if i don't get the positive you're going to get fungus standing still you're going to take root in just stand there you go moldy and die even if you walk backwards you're moving that's what this is about here so many illnesses they're finding now are being cleared by people getting up and moving you know why we don't do it because they told us to exercise and we're not going to like the next assize our exercises getting out of bed pushing back from the table fighting somebody trying to get a parking place close we don't have to walk so far to where you're going sitting down all day while somebody calls on the phone you're disgusted because you have to reach  for somebody want to take an order you have to pick up a pen and use your hands to do this or get behind a computer terminal oh i hate those computer terminals do it all by longhand i can love the computer terminals how about the good old fashioned typewriter were great when they made them and you made a mistake typing it just stayed there and looked at you didn't you say give me computer via just delete backspace start over it looks like i'm perfect like i can do a great job only if you do it only when you say if i don't do it i can't make any mistakes i don't make a mistakes you don't know if i'm good or bad folks the reason you're on this planet it because you have been continuously making mistakes continuously not once in a while as an ongoing pattern why why the big thing about mistakes why is there a so upset over make a mistake it will be perfect it won't be perfect if you don't make a mistake it's just going to be what is going to be it's simple can you go back and fix sure haven't you ever told somebody off and really told what you thought of them and you say no i can't do that why not you're doing it you're doing it in your mind you're doing it is going to affect you worse if you just do it in your mind and keep it in your body and if you get  ok now here's here's one for you if you had your choice of having an anxiety attack or depression attack which would you take how many would take an anxiety attack how many would take a depression attack how many  don't know what i just talked about question what would i choose i'd take a depression i don't have to exercise  i just get to sit there get rid of this feeling i'll jump off the building i'll run out from these cars i'll i'll starve myself to death why i'm not sitting down long enough to eat and you think about there's a hierarchy of illnesses isn't it a strange thing to look at something like that but listen it's there in it might be in your future years ago when those worked with the young man he got a really smart alec and he just mouth off to me i said you know i would do that if you are used wisely because i will be out there lang in your future you're going to walk by and i'm just going to jump up and bite you on the butt and you can wonder where that came from said would you do that i said no he's why do you say that i said i want to give you some to think about he said well how would you do that now he wasn't so smart of him know how you do that you just outlast them that's all you do you don't outlast anybody by giving up you outlast them by going towards what you want what what's the definition of winning getting your stated results you only have to endure to the place of what you stated you're going to do that you commitment if you recommit new ballgame whole new energy field now there is real popular information going around that people should get divorced every seven years because they said to get a marriage only lasts about seven years and then after that it's no good but a lot of us come from the old school call are you going to get divorced or go through this life be miserable well i'm not one of those i figured if i got married i'd get divorced so why if i'm not going get divorced why marry misery so i said i'll watch after all i take the depression after all i'm not going to exercise you people that love this infighting that get married you people love to watch to see who you can beat down and make wrong personally because you know them so intimately it's well listen you ever go to court and listen to what people say when they're getting divorced why the things they're saying you have you thought about and you go home you try it then you get divorced  why are we doing all this if we knew a better way we would do it and we're now in santa barbara western coast the united states this was in the first place settled by the way  so someone had to come here they're doing that said that a trail a precedent an idea i think you can recall historically certainly from movies when they found then yet we're talking about the gold that is spiritual that you this for ever for ever not just for some definition time what's for ever ten thousand years not it's not located in time it's located in ever words that wherever that is we're talking about that gold if you find that while you're sitting here tonight you will become enlightened you may become enlightened in this church and when you go down the street to the drugstore you won't be so you will be bound to this church to do this i would not wish that on you well some people get it some people are smart in every country there are brilliant people all over the planet living in squalor in third and fourth worlds maybe there's fifty worlds out there and they're brilliant for their time and their place and if you put them with all the scholars and brilliant people the world they would be equally as brilliant they would just not be as informed that's all and you would look at them and  is them but you cannot see it unless you're seeing from that place you you don't have to keep coming back to church every sunday he goes with the in the car down to the forest the ocean goes to bed with you gets up in the morning with you goes to work with you it goes everyplace you go because it's lumin n there may be people who are more in lightened in the area than you are but when it comes to other areas they're crippled because they never learned how to do that like when you rather have them send you a cassette and you could just play it and listen and i have to pay attention if i listen or happens if you're reading well if i miss that i can just go back with my eyes it's very easy the eyes move really easy but the years don't move at all why don't you just listen it's easier because seeing is above listening we can hear things and not know what we heard but we see things and we value that so seeing is the easiest for us because of the value i've just institute the new word here value who's determining that you always you i know value for me people could never understand why i was the head of a large large organization and i said why what i step down the job that i have to an organization that's a very large one but you can't be lazy in the work to do this you know when i come to do seminars to talk to people i would say almost ninety nine and forty four one hundred percent of the time i they but then they won't but what if they not they never have to go do it again and see if somebody changes out of curiosity to see who's going to do something different i show up and i'm like this watching who's good do something different get out of your comfort zone some people don't come back to lectures they more because i talked into their comfort zone  pushed on and they didn't like that i think jerry lewis was the one who would close this book he said the reason they people hate me is because i'm so talented such a genius can do so many things that's why they hate me not because he's mediocre monday if somebody hates you you might start looking out in to yourself to see what is the talent that i've got that they hate me because jesus said you hated me for no real good reason except for one i came in the world and to stir you but the world was disturbing them all along have you ever noticed that the world disturbs you all along why why on earth does it do that you can't even sit down and do nothing before your bowels move i mean gotta get up and go someplace and you can't even do that to you got to go eat you can't do that until your mind says i don't like what i'm doing i want to do something else but i don't know what it is but i don't want to do what i'm doing at least to know that i don't want to do what i'm doing then stop all the behavior that leads to that doing and it will stop if you get headaches and negative thinking stuff all the thinking that goes into that and you stop those listen this is the secret is the message of the universe is for all time and eternity you want to change stop doing your routine institute a change it is sometimes a simple as turning it is as ridiculous as buttoning the belt reversing at the other side it is a stupid as instead of putting your left foot in your pants you put the right one in first and the right leg i of putting on your left shoe and sock do the right sock and then do the left sock but then put the left shoe on first not you say why it starts to break up the neurology it can make it go crazy you walk around all day going i feel like something's are lying the side of me i don't know what this is go home take all your clothes off and put it back on right oh now i feel ok i feel like i have now for the last thirty years just serve really feel good what we accomplished no not much but i feel good about it why well i want a new car i want to come to these trainings i want to travel with you i didn't have any money how come things cost so much they don't cost much i have friends that are millionaires and they travel all over everywhere doesn't cost much they state the best hotels have the best food eat the best is the just everything tops and so why don't you well because ones who worked hard for step by step plan to and went towards they were organized how about the ones who were going down the street and just stumbled into it are yours and all this where you see i just have had a bad run of bad it's just just bad things happened to me but you're good person a good person but bad things happen why you ever heard of karma this lifetime why not go because it's not fair karma isn't fair folks by its definition isn't fair is called you didn't finish it you get to do it again that's not fair right but if that being in which there is no greater being were to appear that we call god no being could even say the greater than that being that is god what would you do well i would do this and i would do this do this and i do know you would what would all look like you can't describe it would be paralyzed my would be joyful might what is are see the lord find out when i do i'll come back and tell you when you do you will be able come back and tell me why it doesn't appear as words it is a description that can't be duplicated we now on the floor and you know they're not dead but it looks good it looks like the dead white the dead because it's not dead that's why it's just not a new look to see if the maybe the hold their breath he looking for a way out why don't just accept it that they died or because then i might have to accept some other things also that i don't want to accept you don't have to accept other things because you can accept somebody's death you don't have to accept anything else if a person came up here and told you the truth honest to god truth empirical truth you don't want to do is show to you here's the truth folks gravity the next thing i say you do not have to believe because i can say that damaged merchandise right every bargain hundred roubles that's right when people tell you anything major against your values what are they what ever works if you measure it against your beliefs you're going to be in trouble do you believe for every drop of rain that falls a flower grows i don't believe a flower grows for every drop of rain this place to be covered with flowers well you say well about when the floods are those are drops of rain those are floods those are masses we're talking about a you want to you want to believe that help yourself but you're going to have to one day go out in the desert and watch a drop of water fall being in this sit there all day to see how long a flower grows to a rose some things take more some things take more than what you think they take some take more than you can even imagine that it takes did you imagine that it would take all your life to get this far and still be  or did you imagine you'd get this far and be so successful ok list called reality check this is hard this is one that usually makes people leave early and this just stop and inventory yourself with this question your mind then we're going to just check are you at this point in your life as successful as you know you could be at this point in your what it takes this infernal optimism in the face of failure and know that and cannot tell you that but when you talk to them and you're with them you also know that now you are feeling the seeing of the face of god and that's a wonderful thing to feel and if you don't feel that you're going to hear the information for the mind about being in god's presence and that's going to be good for your mind but it is not enough because you've already got that prove you've had pleasant things not remarkable we can do twenty five things really good do one that's not so good forget that twenty five let us now focus all existence on this disaster and we will and when we can hold our focus on god in meditation we can hold our focus on negativity from now on twenty years from now i remember what you did to me i was having a dinner party last night sitting talking to some people the person there said and i'm still mad at richard nixon for what he did to me politically what he do to you who's looked at me like nobody that's that we most people will either say i agree or let's fi nixon it's not popular to be anti anything it's popular to be pro for success and peace and love it's popular and we just got to go into a big war in the middle east people ask me what you think of that you for war is that sometimes i am why how on earth can you be in the peace is to be for war because sometimes you have to have some more to have some peace would you believe that this is a historical fact just go look at the books well how about the future is going to happen we're going to have some more they've signed a peace treaty an agreement and i'm not after anybody iraqi airplanes don't fly if you have fixed wings they signed that they've now had two or three shot down for going against it why because they're still going to have some more war before they can have the peace why people are stupid people are dumb and by god we still love each other anyway all those people that hate iraqis iraqis are going to bed with each other loving each other why should we hate them if they find love in themselves but they follow this madman we all follow mad men mostly time we follow ourselves and that's the problem yeah but our madman is more rational than that madman by whose value system who on earth are you using as a reference point myself will good shut up no i have a right to say this then say it because i'm not going to listen to it remember when you really little if i don't hear it it doesn't hurt me did you know there's a lot of truth to that it may affect you you have to be mad to get up and do this really good friend of mine who was the turning i was going to become a doctor told me says my crazies kept me from going insane  it was ok because inside of me it was something to toast it's a cheer it's a revelation i want to mark the spot i want to build something to remember this well the milk taste like other milk i've had so that was a really great remembrance but i did remember that my crazies have kept me from going insane too the more crazy not racist you can be and get away with it the more famous and wonderful you will become famous you'll become and people will want to get behind you and help you even do it more so it's called getting on the bandwagon we had a pet training twelve people amazing is what they were hiding showed up why if you talk long enough to a small group of people you're going to cover most everything you hit the key things what are they self esteem depression anxiety fear fear fear if we had the courage if we had the courage to manage the depth of our fear we'd be soaring higher than eagles can you can you imagine that idea can imagine how fearful we get we won't change our lives for fear something will go wrong we'll stay in muck and misery we will stay there because if it goes wrong how on earth would i handle that how do you handle what you're in now very well thank you you handle the other thing the same way you just make it mediocre monday routine and sit in word courage as a french derivative in coeur which means heart if you had the heart to do what you want to do as much as you have the fear not to but it takes heart doesn't it you know the mind can go out and visualize the biggest and the motions can start to do it and the body starts to collapse you've ever been paralyzed with fear you can just shake and go cold and the blood drains down your hands will just a can you get pains things inside of you that you weren't aware of your eyes the burger things go haywire if you had enough of that strength to go the other way would all be  or miss america build even you know like old mr american old miss america mrs america would have fantastic minds intellects intelligence is the spirit would be leading us because a spirit doesn't know fear it plays in it but it doesn't know it it doesn't know any of these things it just knows itself all the time so if you get fear spirit comes in you live in fear living in fear christians do this all the time they're saved they're born again they're going to heaven and they live in fear of the devil why because the holy spirit doesn't care about that god is in all things you want to what your fears are members tell you really about the clydesdales they come charging down the road you get terrified why aren't those horses all killed off because people be so terrified that shoot them that kill them the poison them to destroy them because they're a threat because a tiny and come up and check me out when you stand by them and you become sort of just quite with them you will feel their peace coming to you they stop you from killing them because they exude comfort and courage and strength and let you become a part of that and you start to uncover your own by being in the presence of that see peace is not cowardly scared sit down climb under a rock that's fear pieces having these other attributes bounce to new and to balance them you have to exercise them so we have to go out of balance sometimes to find out what that is so we can balance it do that and get it balanced if you don't do that it's out of balance in you anyway and it's going to harm you inside you're not going to want to meditate you're not going to want to pray you're not going want to do exercise of the spirit you're not going to want to do anything in there because it scares you in there go look at what scares you if you had the courage as much as you have the fear what could you do john rogers closing words where they worship a sham which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you've heard are just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free booklet about john roger and m s i a call this number one eight hundred eight nine nine book be oh ok that's one eight hundred eighty nine nine two six six five  to that which is post office box three nine three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one this is bend that which is with john roger thanks for joining