you know there's always this assumption that a good idea is going to get out to you that if it's good you'll know about it but that's not true i think with the complexity of communication today we owe it to ourselves to really search for the heroes and also those ideas that may be just underneath the surface the way to do that is to listen to people who are thinkers people with ideas people want to explore  v is made up thoughtful people exploring ideas ideas about our future ideas about possibilities and maybe not those things in the every day popular construct one of our associates is oh i'm very privileged to be able to speak again to one of my favorite people jean hill gough and jean i know you're doing a lot of work on cancer research if you could fill us in on that i very much like to hear it i am very fortunate now to be working with a team of six team doctors surgeons college just radiologists scientists to develop this new concept which i actually started working on back in hundred sixty nine and through the years it's progressed slowly and it's accelerated in the last year with this wonderful team we're developing a completely new kind of treatment for cancer that the  way that cancer has been treated up to now has been with what's called the gold standard which is a combination of surgery radiation and chemotherapy and it's somewhat successful it depends on how early you catch the cancer how successful it is and sometimes people actually do get cured only if it's caught very early but usually what happens is it's delayed because it progress is delayed so you get extra time in the extra time you get could be from a few months to decades which is terrific but it's still not the whole life that you expected so it's got a lot to be desired and it also comes with a price and there are a lot of side effects and it's disfiguring and there's many complications what we're developing is radically different there's no need for surgery there's no need for radiation there's no need for people instead we're using nanotechnology which has been in the in the news for decades now you know bots coursing through your body that fix the problem well it's sort of like that but not exactly ok so we do inject nano particles into the bloodstream and they are a few billionth of a meter in diameter so they are very small  they are by one earth so they don't do anything bad to the body and they consist mainly of iron which we have in our blood so it's not a problem anyway these are not really robots so it's not really nanobots but they are going to do some very specific functions the problem with the concept of metal bots as the press has talked about for decades is that you can't put such a complex mechanism that's capable of doing some complex tasks into the small space plus you can't get enough energy into the small space to power such a device so we don't do that what we do is we put these dumb particles in that are constructed in a certain way so that they can take input externally from external information so now you have this coursing through your body and they are covered by certain chemicals that cause them to seek out whatever we want them to seek out so for instance if you have pancreatic cancer which today nobody knows how to detect and it doesn't have any perceptions that it creates so by the time there's some kind of a bad thing happening it's way too late because it's progressed too far and that's why most people die from paper cancer well this could be a routine test that everybody goes through the nanoparticles go through the body and using what's called mode of clonal antibodies it seeks out the tumors that are cancerous cells of the pancreas and it attaches to them when it does that we now can scan you from the outside and detect those particles because of what those particles have in them and we get a three dimensional image of where those particles are within your body so if you had a pancreatic tumor those particles would accumulate there and we would get a three d image right there telling us oh there's a tumor there and metastasi happens whenever you have a tumor and sometimes it happens immediately so that means a couple of the cells break off and go through the blood system or the lymph system and they go somewhere else and deposit themselves and then grow tumors in other places well our particles will find it wherever it is and this is so important because metastasis is responsible for more than ninety percent of the deaths from cancer not the primary tumor but the metastasized tumor  this will locate them wherever they are in the body and this of course will work with any type of tumor so they have to be pancreatic cancer so now we get a three dimensional whole a graphic image of exactly where in the body these things are now the best part is the next step we then send energy into the nano particles and that energy causes the nanoparticles to heat up only a few degrees but enough so that the cancer cells can't take it and the cancer cells therefore die now the big hurdle was how do you get that much energy into the body without damaging the body and that's always been a big problem for instance with radiation therapy you sending in powerful radiation whether it's x rays or gum or rays or even if it's protons you're still going through healthy cells and you're going to damage them so how do we get all that energy in without damaging healthy cells and we do it by using reconstructs energy in the locations in space that you want to be reconstructed but in the areas where you don't want it there's what's called destructive interference which cancels the energy so the energy goes  to the body but because the beams are overlapping they cancel in terms of the effect so the body perceives no energy even though the energy is there except that the tumor location then the energy is no longer cancelling and we have what's called constructive interference the energy is now addressing the nano particles causing them to heat up and do their work meanwhile the healthy cells don't get damaged at all so that's the basic basis be behind this radical than way of treating the cancer that's extraordinary i mean this is disruptive technology with a capital d what do you where are you or what do you need to develop this technology in bringing to market well we have a great team that has done a lot of research on the individual steps for instance work has been done with mice and with dogs showing that the nano particles will heat up and will absolutely kill the cancers and that's been shown that for these dogs gave up on these dogs and allowed us to do some experiments and we did the experiment with this type of treatment with and then of particles heating up the nano particles the cancers were cured they were completely eliminated so instead of dying from the cancers the dogs died of old age much later so it's very important to understand that when a tumor forms it doesn't necessarily always form as one lump it often forms as us a web of tumor cells that surrounds blood vessels and nerves and muscles so it's not like you can go in there and just cut out the cancer cells it's too intricate you can't do it which is why so many times you just have to do a mistake to me or you have to amputate a limb it's a terrible thing and yet it's not necessary because all you have to do is this process it will selectively kill those tumor cells and leave the healthy cells alone and then you won't need that kind of destruction to take  place how well how far away do you think we are from this saucily limited cancer yeah the what we need to do is we need to finish building the new equipment so that we can make it a complete system that becomes available to people initially were going to be do and this outside of the us gathering a lot of data that will be submitting it to the f d a and we'll use a fast track method which some of our people are very familiar with and very good at so that we can get this f d a approved so if we can get the funding we need to build the equipment and to do the clinical testing i think we can get to the point of f d a approval in a five year period which is incredibly short period of time for them to look knology and are you set up to get the funding or what kind of funding do you need well we initially were doing a crowdfunding offering right now and it's very small it's just one hundred thousand dollars cr funding effort and it should be very easy and quick to do that allow us to make a feasibility demonstration and then we'll raise the bigger amount we need to raise ten million to be able to get to an actual clinical system so that will probably be done with  venture capital and other types of investors and who knows maybe a public offering i don't know but also we're setting up a five a one c three so that we can take donations as well and they will be tax deductible as usual very good well that's very exciting and yes you can think of the we should know about the work you're doing well it's it's a it's a whole new paradigm and it's very very important because even though you may think i'm not going to get cancer i feel fine  the statistics are that cancer is the fastest growing disease on earth it is the number two killer of everybody but it is the number one killer of people age forty five to seventy nine and all children under nineteen number one killer one out of every two men and and one out of every three women will get cancer in their lifetime there's no question about it so everybody is going to be touched by cancer of the personally or a loved one a family member or a pet and the prognosis is bad because for assistant twenty sixteen there were one point seven million new cases of cancer and over six hundred thousand deaths it i s rampant in the next two years there will be more deaths then all of the wars that we fought in world wide combined one gene i really want to thank you for the work you're doing not i mean just personally it's fascinating but  it makes a difference thank you so much i appreciate you letting me have the opportunity to talk about it it's so important well i'm looking forward to a lot more thanks and please give a listen to an interview from my archives w it's true i do have a family voice the family is vocally pretty pretty strong i have to say but and i mostly work with people whose voices are not big and strong and rich and full of range i mostly work with people whose voices have been scared into hiding little boxes hiding behind their noses hiding in their jaws is very hands on work because each individual has has their own physical habits that i need to interfere with if we're going to change those habits and those physical habits are usually to do somehow with protecting with defending with holding on in the first place that people hold on this in the breathing area so these muscles get tight and when these muscles get tight then breathing is how does that feel and people either burst into tears of power point because when you start to breathe and you haven't been breathing for ten or twenty years it's amazing the stuff that maybe locked behind those tense muscles and but sometimes they laugh and sometimes they just say that i feel something much better when you have an effect on someone who's had a bad habit for a long time yes yes i mean the earlier you catch it better obviously because in order to do with consciousness i mean becoming conscious of what it is that you do and how locked in you are to those habits but oh anybody everybody i've worked with six  seventy year olds and i do the same thing with with with everybody and most people enjoy the experience of relaxation so and it's very specific relaxation relaxation of the these central belly muscle areas relaxation of the jaw or relaxation of the throat in order to provide a wider channel and it's such a pleasurable thing think that my ear is here i have ears down here so i hear with my body and that my ear is not judging the result my ear my tune in this much more more than listening and in any kind of critical way and i think probably the more conventional ways of training say there is a specific result which we want you to get to a way you should be speaking there's a placement of your voice which you should be achieving and we can call that right or wrong so it's more a judgment of results and i'm much more interested in the causes is allowing the voice to reveal the person that's what the voices for is so that we can tune in to the person behind the voice women hold themselves back in expression more than men oh what do you think for this cut you are probably a very free woman in your expression but there is a there there's still a huge culture  of of silencing oneself as a woman in order to defer to the man's voice in order not to see scare the  come on threaten anybody and they won't threaten the patriarchy and anyway sorry to get political they're grown so yes i do think that there is still a lot that's happening with women's voices that could be opened up so that the intrinsic the natural easy power of women could be expressed more readily more fully and more in the in in our civilization what is your desired working for  how do you like to work groups and yes i like groups on beforehand and i i like i love my students i love my graduate students are intelligent talented they're greedy they really want to learn and at this stage and i think teaching for fifty years over fifty years to three around the world not and i said yes quite a lot around the world but i love coming back to columbia university fear the program school of the arts where i have these eager graduate students who want to go into the theater they want to go into movies they want to go into television and they have something in them that that is connected with a talent that not has an artistic content and they want to study the classics because they know if they get their roots in the classics then they can open the door to tomorrow's theater with thoroughly enjoy that you have in addition to your wonderful self and wonderful son can you speak a little bit about that was the best thing i ever did was to have my my son proud single mother choosing i chose two to two i needed to have this child when i was forty and i thought if i wait until i'm until i'm  well balanced human being until i go ahead and become a mother it'll be far too late so i better go ahead and do it so i did it he is he's not a very good actor he is in his early the work that i do is using music sound rhythm as a pathway to inspire people to honor themselves and hopefully inspire them to least the role that i've been given by those who i've been honored to study with is to be what we call a gate keeper for the breath song and it sounds like a really broad kind of abstract thing but from the moment that begin this journey of life from the moment that we enter this world we sing our first song and most people imagine that that first song is you know the sound of a baby crying most people think it's but before a baby makes that sound the child comes through the birth canal comes into the world and so the first sound of the first song that we sing is the song of the breath and as we get older and as we grow in progress to that breath a song is added to conversation the more we learn to communicate with our voices it becomes deeper conversation it connects to to our thought and it becomes our way of communicating in the world some of us sing we become singers some of us become great oratory some become poets but that song of the breath is a consistent song some of us forget about the song of the breath and we begin to put on the edge of our breath anger or we talk badly about other people that talk we badly about ourselves so to be a gate keeper of the breath song is to remind people to be aware of how we speak to understand that the one thing that we share just imagine if there was an ocean of great ocean and one single raindrop falls into that ocean it becomes a part of that greater ocean when that child comes through that birth canal and comes into the world and receives that first breath from creation they also become a part of the ocean of our being and it's really interesting we have conversations about spirituality inspirited you know that the word spirit comes from the latin word spirit to switch means breath so in essence my job is to help people be in touch with their breath to be in touch with their life journey to hear and feel what they say about themselves to be aware of and steward what they say to others and to acknowledge and always remember that we are a recognize how important it is to slow down you know if a child is excited and if they're trying to communicate something to us and they're trying you first thing you do is say take it easy slow down slow down just take a breath so that's one of the first things i talk to people about is the ability to be able to just slow down to recognize that whether you're a corporate executive or whether you're a nurse in a busy hospital or whether you're a painter at the easel that it's really important to remember that those essential things of breath of breathing and being aware of who we are unaware of the space around us is really the starting point it's the point that we can always return to and it's the point to really remember so i do that first by talking to them about that and saying you know when's the last time that you really and give them a chance to really feel the vibration of breath and sound and understand that whether i'm having a conversation with you like that whether i'm singing or speaking aloud that we are energetic beings and to the degree that we're able to step back and slow down and