this is part two of a very very dynamic show that we had and it's about your visit to oakland right yes or the fiftieth anniversary of the black panther party which hundred sixty six to two thousand and sixteen and this is what we want to continue to focus on is that beautiful that powerful trip that you had so i will let you just dig right on into it and open up with have you and went down there for this reunion and you could see there the fiftieth reunion of black panther party and there were many things going to reason why don't the black panther party is god just didn't like bullies i don't like bullies in any shape or don't like don't like bullies that's why i became part of the black panther party and that i was trying to help the the african american community the spirit down there and opened for this fiftieth anniversary man was just just out of sight it just would you have been a to me i mean people were there you know i hadn't seen it in so many years and what i got out of it was that even though the black panther party doesn't exist any longer there's a legacy there's a legacy to carry on that people can learn and the energy would just flow and people who are still doing stuff you know people who are forming in the pan in the in the party are doing stuff they're doing stuff in education they're doing stuff with community groups they're doing scariest experiences is part of being pointed a part well you know i hadn't really thought about it but it just came to me and it was when we were in police patrol we used to patrol the police and the reason for that is because there was police brutality going on here in the seattle area and in washington state area that's why you see it is still going on you see the black lives man that's the whole thing and people say why don't all eyes matter certainly but the reason why they're making a distinction is because for the past four hundred years our lives have not matter slavery jim crow lynching police brutality voter suppression on and on and on this is why they say black lives matter or black life need to matter because it has it so that seldom people come up to and say our life and of course but again i must make this point that our lives have not mattered in this country and even still today you know people getting shot for sellin cigarettes and getting shot and killed you know i kid hole in a toy gun and open carry state police rush and he's twelve years old he gets shot it's a open carry state in that was a real gun it wasn't a god so these are the things that that you know that you know set you off so we so one of the scariest moment was police patrol and there were different and different cities but you'd have a driver in then you'd have the members of the party who would be well stocked with what they needed to have and patrol the police the thing about that is you had to be careful because you don't know who the police are going to stop you know they're going to stop someone who's going to get brutalized by the police or you don't know if you've got some fool who needs to be arrested so that was they always in your bag mind the police problem i need to arrest this for you might be acting up he might be you know the best of violence a child molester or whatever so you always had that in the back your mind i think that was one of the curious point you want to do the right thing just like a police officer hopefully want to do the right thing and they get in the situated on what they're going to face so that was the thing on patrol cars you don't know what was going to happen and i think that with on that note when we were open i think maybe near the last day about four or five of us we went in that convenience store just recently and we went in suit too you know and so then we noticed that they had the highway patrol that they had out you know the black stripe over there their shields so we asked them well that someone you know pass away or whatever  former members of black panther party you know they were concerned i know i know i was i don't want to see officer get killed and i don't want to see black folks get killed when it's a when it's not necessary so you know there's a lot of dynamics of a lot of things going on here  lot of history we had that we had our weapons for self defense but we had other things we had you know our survival programs so the long or short of that i think the police patrols for me were one of the things that you know you just didn't know how this was going to pan out and if it did pan out you wanted to be right right so what i'm hearing is that really being a black path of member  the police patrol was a real test of your courage and your intellect put together and now looking back on it you realize that at least i know in my case that god is most day that he was arrested they said he killed a police officer and so forth but they tried to kill huey p newton about twice that same day and this was something i learned when i went down to oakland we simply so they were you know i mean there are so many stories i learned just going down there that i never knew we had forgotten and so forth but go and ask your question twice the same day twice the same day to try to kill you now i want to ask you a question you know the black panther party has the emblem of the path right could you comment on whether panther is that you know is an animal that you know if you leave her alone basically had to leave you alone but if you back it into a corner it's going to come out and a lot of some of the stuff came from if you do your research on the deacons of the fitz these were african american men they're down in the south this got tired of been messed over so they took up weapons so it was like you know you know come in here ok it's going to have to happen we're just not going to sit by and be passive so that was one of the things the civil rights mean you had civil rights movement you had a lot of things going to and you had the civil right you had martin luther king there and i said the women you know even the day you know the women were involved they were much a panther party of anything else and they were out there this is up picture of some of the kids being served at the free breakfast program and this was going around different cities united states this program was established to help young we join you go to school one hundred minutes hard to concentrate so what happened was that the federal government these bunch of negroes here these so called militants they are feeding the children so this is how the program got established in the federal government and also the free lunch program because they saw the payout this doing this and they said we can't be upstaged by this so all these people getting free lunch breakfast and lunch you should think the black panther party for that yes yes that's beautiful as you now know last show you touched on this just briefly if you m go to a little more depth about this booklet here ok the name of this book is my people are rising and it's by aaron dixon and this is the book that he he it's very it's it's a very revealing book you know it talks about him growing up talking about him growing up in the seattle area and it talks about how he became a member of the black panther party and the bit the bigger picture that you see behind us that's bobby seale so aaron and a few other people and elmer dixon went down to the bay area and they met with bobby seale and so forth and so on and they talk because i was a big there was a big thing for the black student union so it was like i don't know it was a national or regional thing for the black student union to come together so they came together and there were many things happening and aaron mention t howard i think that's a name and then myself there at the end he was a he was known brother there in the middle he was known as big man that was a nickname now you know when you get older and everything he got some health challenges now you know panther party and it was very well received and we had a chance to tell a story you know it's good that other people come to your workshop you know because you just think well just people from seattle going to be there but people came to hear about it so now there's all this is the guy i love this picture here this is john carlos from he was a member of the yes us with a big team and nine hundred sixty eight so he just had received the award on  just use that term he had a black glove on and they had just black socks on he paid him and tommy smith paid a heavy price for doing that they lost jobs they lost income they lost their family for making that stand and all they did was make a stand they didn't do anything violent they were just trying to show the world you know that you know african americans are being ill treated here in united states of america and for that they caught him for many many years they went i believe them they came from san jose caller somebody correct can correct me if i'm wrong but there's now a statue of them there so when you see that picture google  t john carlos and tommie smith so john are carlo time smith came in first john carlos came in third and german from australia came in second carlos would have came in second but what he did if you they told him what they were going to do right and they asked him that he did they still want to stand on the podium with him although he didn't have his hand he said yes he said he's i believe what you believe in and he stood with him you know yeah i mean and he cut hail for that kathleen cleaver she used to be or the former wife eldridge cleaver and then the myself there next so i saw her there and we took a quick picture there was a works out that was done also there the rainbow coalition and it talked about coalitions at the black panther party has one of the coalitions was with the young patriots they were a caucasian group that we had a coalition with also the brown berets and almost like interfaith you're for me and coalitions with other people because you can't do everything by itself i mean you sometimes you get help from where you least expect it and sometimes you get catch hail from where you least expect  and to me to reka to me was the first woman in the black panther party she helped with the clinics she helped with all different stuff but the party needed and she was also  and so forth and so on but there was some students going to school they were probably fed at the free breakfast program they supported aaron dixon to be free they supported black panther party black control of the black community you know there you go with that theme you could also call that black power etc how you want to say it but you so that the students with this this next picture is were at a list you don't normally see this particular picture ya'll usually see the other one other straight angle programs you know you'd feed the children help them and so they can they can continue the struggle and lead their lives that's what it's all about helping the next generation that's right and th were workshops you had to choose what works out you want to go to and sometimes you were given a workshop when a workshop you wanted to go to but the polynesian panthers there was that the australian panthers and of course we talked about the  coalitions that the black by the party had so i mean there was just there was so much going on i mean that was i'm glad i went you know they told me about it and i said yeah i'll go i'll go you know you got to travel you got to get out here just this was this book here of the black panthers portraits from an unfinished revolution edited by brian sheehan and williams and mr williams i just i had gotten a notice you know that night that they were going to be at the north west african american museum just a few hours notice so i went and met the guy talked to him and you know i saw him that one picture where we went to a limpy and talked about that just briefly and it just has this book just has different pictures a different path there's a little story about them and then what they're doing and  the trying to be active in the community and to pass along with every information that we learn the good stuff mistakes that we may you know pass it on let the people know you know how to move forward because people have today was can you do the same things that you did before no because times of change you have to have different strategies some of the things you can use some of the survival programs you can still do things of that nature but other things  you don't want to do you know you might say about the guns that really stood you know you you have to define yourself but i don't think it's just like when muhammad ali came to a university in washington i mention this in the last show that  gave a speech and you know everybody you know he asked me questions and nobody asked a question so i decided to ask a question like i said before i see the say it what do you think about self defense by people in self defense but i said what do you think about black abuse and violence you say well that's like you beat me so you think about it you can't really use a strategy you know any longer how it has to be something else it has to be you're looking for excellence in yourself and your families and your home and your community on your block your town your neighborhood  eccentric cetera and and expand it out but take the good from the black panther party use that where you can the mistakes that you learned from mistakes don't do those mistakes well  this was i know was it in a energizing trip for you as you came back all hyped the first thing you want to do is do some shows oh yeah yeah but it's you know we talk about to reliable sources get the history build upon it and do what you can black the party it was just it was only as they say in the civil rights human rights and they did that took a stand on several things you might not like a certain stand on this but look at something else you know that you know that you think it would just happen that hey we're going to stand up for what we believe is right you say you can have a second amendment right and european americans say that all the time now they all have you know whatever but when african americans do it it's a problem the thing is and wrapping up is just make your contribution make a positive contribution and as we say oh