good afternoon welcome to thirty frames a nd i'm your host greg last and i'm glad to be back we have a great show for you this week don't go anywhere we'll be right back to be back you seem like a been away for a long time yeah well let me start off by saying this that that footage  or eighty something and she's still going strong well in order for me to get that footage a couple of things had to happen as you know our primary director is sheila barry she does  all right and we had black folks right when that be but we black folks eat that now eat that and have a i did that never but i ate all around it i just folks right and they wanted to see black performers as it was called the chickens are heroes and they weren't allowed to perform just about anywhere else now the chairman circuit there's a couple of actually you talking about the time shirley caesar came was like a subculture of a subculture absolutely without enough beat of blacks you know by rag gospel see that is correct that is correct and and and  i remember going to the apollo as a kid shirley caesar represented a specific night almost a subculture in the chin then circuit they had certain nights dad nights where they had a jukebox review where was all of these all of these gay cross dressers i don't know if they were gay but they will cross dressers and they had one woman and the audience had the challenge of figuring at a cultural phenomenon that refused to compromise right because almost every other aspect of our culture has has compromised to a point where it right and then you have through traveling all around whether it's whether it's the islands whether it's a europe rather whether because the the italian culture is an offshoot cultural we're supposed to be so cultural very cultural when it comes to music when it comes to lifestyle but one of the every weekend of us as americans even black america we go somewhere pronounced mixture now depending upon how much of each of those things you are a lot of to and dictates your economic status  you're absolutely right but that's funny you say that because that attitude it like to vanish whelan's and white mexicans or the really rich cubans issue with white supremacy white people are not the issue as much as the ideology great white supremacy but you do this when you see that not to cut you off but we have black by not only white people but around people of color black and brown and you wouldn't believe if you know sit down and think about the ideology of it you know white supremacy is always accompanied by racism right now racism is not always a cop only by white great great point yeah most most most white people have little pop power to impose their will but they identify with the dominant culture and they asked what gives them meaning which in fact you look at the grizzly bear to wait at the top of the bank for spawning salmon or jump up and jump in today on so that's not a nature thing but as a learned behavior from generation after there comes there there is there's a difference between doing well and becoming a malignancy right big difference and white supremacy white supremacy  is a muslim and see it's it's a virus it's a virus that has become malignant so it's not advantageously to the world as a matter of fact it's the thing that is correct you don't you're right the american the american america instituted are an assimilation and right and imposed it on native people dead the indians were savages and if and if we could just get them to cut their hair and wash the dirty bodies and give up all that indians and teach them in schools white schools savages would do you see there is no difference now when you would see white supremacy is something that has always been around and will always be around unless we break that the idea that is correct that is correct even of all white people will go on right seventeen states in america as shown that they're not we're not you know to then reproduce them as a matter of fact they're there in decline there's a whole lot of things that no laws against abortion i just the very states that have a problem reproducing but no other no other type of of of hum n other than wife foods and and and and and the white supremacy knows this in order to maintain white people you know are diminishing and it's increasingly more difficult to only mate with your sister friend had been said you can kill you can kill a revolutionary but you can't kill a revolution right you can kill the white supremacy but you can't kill the ideology right supremacy and until you kill that to what's going on in the world that i truly weep for the future because you can't kill the ideology of white supremacy you know you look at you look at our core look at the culture today you know you see a lot of more solutions to the problems of the world problems of our community and this is the big this is one of the big questions that we need to answer today is how do we kill the ideology of white supremacy one of one of the most one of the most lethal weapons the only the only true weapon that has lasted the most e device that we have ever seen is art and culture especially music music you don't need a high school diploma to love music no you know you need to be bright to love music dancing the most effective way to combat white supremacy that ideology is to the art still called sure because arts and culture tends to bring people together he's mean natured the things that he is doing is just mean the whole thing with venezuela is is mean but he's he's he's all mad king but you know what it was scary is that he just passed we just got breaking news that he just passed a stiffer travel run on quba  you know these these these these countries latin american countries central american countries countries like cuba they really america really has a hard on for  that go well africa africa is is a place of magnificence right linda our beauty is like the hand of god placed these people in paradise a increase the educational capacity of the people you're talking about a utopian utopian society if left to their own devices and allowed to grow and mature according to their own specific skills america's problem with those countries which kills me is that the so against socialism america has two big problems this then from two  nations and rescind their nation status because it's a religion not a nation and when you look at a lot of the atrocities that have happened in the name of the catholic church there are organisations this arguing that the but it has more it has it has influence beyond money and it has influence beyond corporate status because it is the empire that all empires stem from that's exactly right or run out of time but i want to say you know congratulations to us when the public media would have excellence for conversations with greg last internet would  using every week and you guys know how do we just talk to us on social media and if we think you guys want to talk about you know hit us up but as i go out on the net have the last word shoo for the mood if you miss you still  baby as you heard from the queen of gospel and i thought that was an appropriate clip because i think of myself as a soldier and i really don't spend a whole argue in terms of which way is the is the best way or the one correct way because i don't believe in a one correct way that's why i am a producer who is involved in a lot of different aspects of production most produces you will come across are involved in one specific in culture we travel to places like venezuela we try to bring you the whole kit and caboodle because i'm a soldier so you would not see a one dimensional thirty that's why they called it soul music the spiritual nature of what we do is evident in almost every other kocher all across the globe so once we start to love and appreciate i could go into indigenous americans coach and accept their beauty and understand their beauty and i could go all through latin america and aca go to asia and in august and europe and you can understand what they've bring