my name is libby carr and i'm the campaign manager for meant how many of you have heard of and let me say while i'm speaking to a friendly audience this is good how many of you are already carrying petitions for this cause ok great we thank you very much for that what i'd like to do tonight is this is going to be a workshop within a workshop in a way i think we've advertised it on our wall man dot org website which all of you should be sure and pay several visits to that this  is a training session so people can learn to present this workshop but i'm going to start out by doing the public part of the workshop and those of you who want to be trainers this is basically what you'll be doing we'll have some introductory remarks here and then we will watch two very short video clips and then we'll have  signatures and the other gentleman next to her if you will stand up and turn around this is jay heyman who is our coordinator and and has been our fearless leader since the beginning of this effort we owe much to both of them for getting us this thus far so many of our some of you may have come because you want to learn to deliver this workshop and get a kit i have over here  these are in the red folders and we're asking a ten dollar donation and in it is a d v d with four selections on it two of which i'll be playing three of which will be playing tonight the last one being on signature gathering tips and the first one is a fifty seven minute great d v clip done by a young young woman named ashley sanders from the national team of move to amend and it's her speech condensed from ninety minutes down to fifty seven minutes so it could be shown on public television in a meeting that was done upstairs the end of last september and what it shows is how this subject of overturning citizens united is in fact a social movement that sweeping the country and it's been building for a number of years now and it's really picking up momentum and in ashley's remarks which is really a brilliant use of timelines where her first timeline is showing the historical evolution devolution if you will supreme court decisions and also federal court decisions where corporations started in the middle eight hundred swith santa clara county versus the railroad and over time have gotten more and more pieces of personhood until finally citizens united gave them unfettered free speech in the form of well if you're a person you must have a need to speak so that must be your money well what you give to the super pacs no restrictions no disclosure and that is what we are here fighting today  so how many of you came to get a kit the night ok if you would like to come and pick one up and i'll collect your donation afterwards but at some point during my remarks i'll be referring to the contents of the kit and also well you can hold on for a minute because more people towards the end of my remarks may want to kid at that time so we'll well take care of that a little bit later so what i want to say is that i know that this import this this issue of overturning citizens united is very important to a lot of people when i first started working while with while men to saval interior back in march we were growing the grassroots organization and j and i i think of us the first time that i went out with jay and we were at folklife gathering signatures and names of people to be on our sign up sheet and to build an organization and i very first person i approached was a woman about my age and she was sitting on that round circular huge bench around the international fountain and i said you know here how would you like to you know sign your name on our sign up sheet for and wear a grassroots organization who are going to be doing a citizen's initiative to overturn citizens united and to urge our congresspeople to go for that and she starts laughing at me and she says are you n why are you wasting your time you surely you don't believe that this is going to make a difference or that this is possible and she i guess i was so taken aback by how forthright she was i sat down and i really had to think about this for a minute and i thought about it and i said well you know i'm really glad you asked me that question because i haven't asked myself that question why am i doing this because i know it's going to take a lot of my time and i've got other things i could be doing but then i thought about it and the best reason i could think of are my grandchildren that it's all about what kind of democracy are we going to be leaving when it's time for us to leave so i told her that answer and she thought about it for a moment and then she took my clipboard and signed  so that's what i think we all need to think about and that what we are all here for is to make a statement that we need to take a stand that we all know that something's terribly rotten in denmark and in the united states and that we are losing this day by day but i do believe it's possible to get up back so what i want to do so we'll talk about that in a minute the reason i like this is because in eight minutes so if you're going to be a trainer on this and eight minutes you can take an audience who virtually knows nothing about citizens united and its significance and in eight minutes you know what they know and they know quite a bit about what's the problem here in season one of the story of stuff we looked at a system that paid way too much stuff and way too little we really want now we're going to start looking at the stories behind the story of stuff that's cool find ways to turn this situation around  of tired of this stuff why is it that every election season it becomes impossible to hear the facts over all these misleading ads and if it seems the problem is only getting worse that's because it is we can thank the supreme court for that in twenty ten they decided that it would be just fine for corporations to spend as much money as they want telling us who to vote for wait why are corporations telling us who to vote for let's get something straight this is a democracy you know rule by the people i'm a person you're a person and chevron not a person so shouldn't elections be all about what people want good jobs safe products health care responsible government clean air and water it turns out the vast majority of americans want to see a lot more done all of these things but what people want it's going to take a backseat as long as corporations can spend millions getting lawmakers elected or oil companies have gotten politicians to block laws protecting our climate manufacturers have pushed through trade agreements that got product safety and helped ship jobs overseas insurance companies have been the first ones consulted on health reform and giant corporations have gotten bailouts and subsidies maybe that's why all kinds of people republicans democrats independents are totally frustrated with our government it's easy to get angry but it's time we got smart and realize that the heart of our problem is not that we have bad lawmakers we have a democracy crisis eighty five percent of americans feel that corporations have too much power in our democracy and people have too little eighty five percent say that's a majority so let's get together and take our democracy back from the corporations it's the first and most important step in making real progress on all the issues that people care most about so how did we the people lose control of our democracy to begin with let's go back a few centuries back then they were just people some of them owned businesses some of them worked for businesses still they were just people then people invented something entirely new the corporation these legal entity for exist independently of the people who own them if a corporation does something that gets in trouble the owners can say don't blame me blame the corporation i'm just a shareholder when the united states came into existence corporations were easier to keep in check back then the government would grant them charters p like building a bridge or a railroad once they fulfilled the purpose they were disbanded but over time the law changed and corporations no longer had to be turned off once the project was complete they began to live on indefinitely with a much more general purpose profit and that's how the modern corporation was born today's corporations have evolved to have something very dangerous in their programming unlike people who are driven by all kinds of motivations doing the right thing love for a family their country the planet publicly traded corporations are now required by law in the markets to pursue one single motivation above all others maximize value for shareholders make as much money as possible that's it no really that's what the law and the markets demand imagine a friend saying the only thing i care about is money it's not someone you'd want to leave your kids with or your democracy for that matter yes it is people who run these corporations but their human motivations come second if they prioritize anything at all over maximizing profits they're out of there can corporate leaders do good things like give to charity or try to be more green sure but not if it conflicts with maximum profits and since they're humble beginnings corporations have grown huge fifty three of the one hundred biggest economies on earth now are corporations so corporations have a single minded profit motive there are monkeys and their owners can easily dodge the blame for any harm they cause that makes them tricky to share a country with if we want them to serve us and not the other way around they need some basic ground rules and that's where the government comes in setting rules to keep things fair and safe and to protect society from corporations run amuck now if their main objective is to maximize profit do you think corporations are content to follow the rules that keep them in check no of course not they want to write those rules but who is supposed to write the rules in a democracy people that's why one of the corporation strategies for sneaking into our democracy is saying that they should have the same first amendment rights as real live people and that's exactly how they won the two thousand and ten supreme court case known as citizens united versus f e c in that case five members of the supreme court decided that it's unconstitutional to put any limits on how much money corporations can spend influencing elections why they said these limits violate the first amendment guaranteeing free speech now obviously our founding fathers who wrote the first amendment were trying to protect the free speech of people but this decision rides on the crazy argument that corporations should be treated the same as people and get the same rights that real people get this means corporations can spend as much as they want when ever they want to intimidate or crush candidates running on a platform against their interests and support candidates who will do what they ask it's great news for corporations wanting to hand pick the lawmakers whose job it is to keep them in check now i am all for free speech if every  shareholder employee at exxon wants to personally support some oil lobbyist running for senate that's their right there are millions more people who will support a different candidate that's democracy in action but now exxon or any other corporation can decide to spend unlimited dollars from its huge corporate coffers to influence an election without even consulting its shareholders this is a big deal if the top one hundred corporations decide to throw in just one percent of their profits they could outspend every candidate for president house and senate combined could luck having a free speech right over that so did opening the floodgates on this money actually cause a flood sure did in two thousand and ten the kind of independent groups that corporations are now allowed to support spent three hundred million dollars that's more than every midterm election since one thousand nine hundred combined so corporations are drowning out our voices getting what they want and our democracy is in trouble but we can totally save it people are so outraged by the supreme court decision that a massive response is mobilizing such a huge problem requires a huge solution and we've got one a new constitutional amendment the amendment is smart and clear it reverses this disaster to our democracy by clarifying that the first amendment isn't meant for for profit corporations i get that amending the constitution is a big ambitious goal but it's not impossible every time huge positive changes been made in this country it's because people dreamed big aim to try and set ambitious goals it's time to do that now because the life of our democracy is on the line public financing of campaigns would be another huge step forward congress is working on a bill right now that would make it possible for candidates to get elected without corporate dollars remember eighty five percent of americans think that corporations have too much influence in our democracy that's enough to make change if we can turn that sentiment into action look the corporations won't get out of our democracy until we the people get back in so keep fighting for renewable energy green jobs health care safe products and top notch public education but save some energy for the battle of our lifetimes a battle that can open the door to solving all of these things it's time to put corporations back in their place and to put the people back in charge of our democracy so i like to say i design this workshop because a lot of people need to be out there you know letting people know what citizens united is all about as we saw from the five twenty two campaign it's one thing to get an initiative on the ballot with enough signatures and it's another thing to make sure it passes and we want to get both on the ballot and we want this thing to pass so what we knew early on was that we had to both educate people on how to gather signatures but we also had to give them an opportunity to really learn about this issues so when people asked them questions they could feel comfortable answering it so without being the challenge i said well how are we going to train up a whole thousands a couple a thousand you know accomplished public speakers well i'm not sure so the idea that came to us was to use the ending leonard and let her give the speech so that's what we're doing with these two d and so this first one i think does an excellent job of describing very quickly what is citizens united and but it goes beyond that it also gives in my opinion a an overview of what is the state of our current democracy of our democracy currently and what is at stake so does that make sense ok now what i want to do is is show the second one which is wealth inequality in america and then i'll tie the two together for you there's a chart asar recently that i can't get out of my head a harvard business professor and economist asked more than five thousand americans how they thought wealth was distributed in the united states this is what they said they thought it was dividing the country into five or if groups of the top bottom and middle three twenty percent groups they asked people how they thought the wealth in this country was divided then he asked them what they thought was the ideal distribution and ninety two percent that's at least nine out of ten of them said it should be more like this in other words more equitable than they think it is now that fact is telling admittedly the notion that most americans know that the system is already skewed unfairly but what's most interesting to me is the reality compared to our perception the ideal is as far removed from our perception of reality as the actual distribution is from what we think exists in this country so ignore the ideal for a moment here's what we think it is again and here is the actual distribution shockingly skewed not only do the bottom twenty percent and the next twenty percent the bottom forty percent of americans barely have any of the wealth i mean it's hard to even see them on the chart but the top one percent has more of the country's wealth then nine out of ten americans believe the entire top twenty percent should have mind blowing but let's look at it another way because i find this kind of difficult to wrap my head around instead let's reduce the three hundred eleven million americans to just a representative one hundred people make it simple here they are teachers coaches firefighters construction worker engineers doctors lawyers some investment bankers a c e o maybe a celebrity now let's line him up according to their wealth poorest people on the left wealthiest on the right just a steady row folks based on their net worth will color code them like we did before based on which twenty percent quintile they fall into now let's reduce the total wealth of the united states which was roughly fifty four trillion dollars in two thousand and nine to this symbolic pile of cash and let's distributed among our one hundred americans well here's socialism all the wealth of the country distributed equally we all know that won't work we need to encourage people to work and work hard to achieve that good old american dream and keep our country moving forward so here's that ideal we asked everyone about something like this occur this isn't too bad we've got some incentive as the wealthiest folks are now about ten to twenty times better off than the poorest americans but hey even the poor folks aren't actually poor since the poverty line has stayed almost entirely off the chart we have a super healthy middle class with a smooth transition into wealth and yes republicans and democrats alike chose this curve nine out of ten people ninety two percent said this was a nice ideal distribution of america's wealth but let's move on this is what people think america's wealth distribution actually looks like not as equitable clearly but for me even this still looks pretty great yes the poorest twenty to thirty percent are starting to suffer quite a lot compared to the ideal in the middle class is certainly struggling more than they were while the rich and wealthy are making roughly one hundred times that of the poorest americans in about ten times that of the still healthy middle class sadly this isn't even close to the reality is the actual distribution of wealth in america the poorest americans don't even register their down to pocket change and the middle class is barely distinguishable from the poor in fact even the rich between the top ten and twenty percent teil are worse off only the top ten percent are better off and how much better off so much better off that the top two to five percent are actually off the chart at this scale and the top one percent this guy while his stack of money stretch is ten times higher than we can show here's his stack of cash restacked all by itself this is the top one percent we've been hearing so much about so much green in his pockets that i have to give him a whole new column of his own because he won't fit on my chart and one percent of america has forty percent of all the nation's wealth the bottom eighty percent eight out of every ten people or eighty out of these hundred only has seven percent between them and this has only gotten worse in the last twenty to thirty years while the richest one percent take home almost a quarter of the national income hundred seventy six they took home only nine percent meaning their share of income has nearly tripled in the last thirty years the top one percent own half the country stocks bonds and mutual funds the bottom fifty percent of americans only half a percent of these investments which means they aren't investing they're just scraping by i'm sure many of these wealthy people have worked very hard for their money but do you really believe that the c is working three hundred eighty times harder than his average employee and not his lowest paid employee not the janitor but the average earner in his company the average worker needs to work more than a month to earn what the o makes in one hour we certainly don't have to go all the way to socialism to find something that is fair for hardworking americans we don't even have to achieve what most of us consider might be ideal all we need to do is wake up and realize that the reality in this country is not at all what we think it is u surprised astounded yeah now piece after piece over there in the say well we still get the point though that one percent out of one hundred is a great imbalance no wonder there is a movement called occupying and the ninety nine going on for a long time yes the reason i chose these two clips to give the speech is because one of the first one describes our current democratic our current democracy and the second one is is generalization but accurate i think description of our current economic system and the problem is that the two have become to be matched to inner twined and that's what we're here to do is citizens united along with a lot of other  laws that have been handed down decisions policies by congress lobbyists on and on and on have have demonstrated have made this lack of boundaries become greater and greater to where our democratic system is now very much controlled by the wealthy elite and what the movement that's going on right now is a wake up as an awakening going on and our job is to start pulling those two systems apart and we have to do one of the only tools that we've got with some teeth in it is to hopefully get  constitutional amendment passed that amends the constitution and not a law that congress passed which once again the supreme court would could say it's unconstitutional so that's what we're doing here tonight as is being a part of that process as many of you may know sixteen states have already passed resolutions primarily in their state legislatures voicing th sentiment that they want their representatives in congress to introduce a bill that will become a constitutional amendment after it passes congress by two thirds of each house and then it must be ratified by three quarters of the states and then it becomes an amendment this would be the twenty eighth amendment some of gone one happened very quickly which was the voting age being lowered from twenty one to eighteen because we all know that if you're old enough to fight in vietnam you're certainly should be old enough to vote right so that's what we're doing here in washington state we need to get about two hundred fifty thousand valid registered voters on these petitions so we're shooting for at least three hundred thousand signatures and they need to be gathered by june twenty fifth we have a whole army of people out here doing this and in a few minutes i'm going to have still your area manager here come up and talk about that some more and then watch this last clip on that but i want to entertain some questions first anybody have some questions yes good question and i'm going to repeat this for the film because we are hopefully going to be having this workshop put on our website so people can go there and get training is this do i feel that this is the totality of what we need to reverse this trend i think it's a major piece i think another major piece is publicly funded elections which as you know we have worked very hard a number of people are on the board or have  been a part of washington public campaigns which is a grassroots organization that's been operating in this state for many years now and have worked on with legislators both in olympia as well as here in seattle and all over the place to start publicly funding campaigns so i think that's a big part of it and i think there's a number of other kinds of things that have been proposed in congress or people are talking about that could start to separate out these two systems again robert rice his film inequality for all goes into much greater detail and i and i confess this is he's the guy that i got this idea from because that was an aha moment for me when i said oh yeah i see what he's talking about we have an economic system and government democratic process and the two have become just too close we have to separate them back out again and his film does demonstrates that beautifully it like over and over and over again hitting it with a hammer and that's what's going on here and what this workshop is about is is an abbreviation if you will of that concept and i find that people can relate to it and they begin to see what is the problem and oh yeah these these are supposed to be two systems that operate independently from each other yes i think that first of all what our petition calls for is regulation so like the gal i met the very first time i was that signature gathering to build the organization with j folklife i met a young woman who had recently moved here from new zealand and she said you americans are crazy in new zealand everybody knows that it's against the law to donate more than ten thousand dollars to any campaign by anybody or any entity and of course it has to be disclosed so personally i think that if we were to have those two rules and place that would start but we have to take away the we have to stop the pacs because that's how this got started  the public disclosure commission which in this state very closely regulates campaigns like ours issued campaigns that are initiatives as well as candidate campaigns and i think these laws are basically in place all over the country is you have to you have limits and you have to disclose how much money is being given directly to campaign with citizens united it created the super pac so you have this whole other channel that's different than the regulated channel you have a separate channel of the super pacs and accompanying five a one c fours where you can hide some dark money as it were to be able  to that's the avenue with which we have unlimited money flowing steve co barry's you know to prove the point he started his own super pac and we all enjoyed that spectacle quite a bit and he made a great point but i don't think that will be enough i think the public pressure has to be long going and loud and and a wake up call to where we really take back our citizenship we've become far too complacent and quiet too you know and not wanting to be involved in politics or whatever we're too busy or too busy doing this or that but in the meantime we're losing our democracy you know started with the powell memo a number of decades ago of an attorney who used to work for the r j reynolds tobacco company and slid over to the supreme court and was then asked to write a memo on what should the republican party do for get it really getting ahead and he was a pretty brilliant writer and he put out a playbook and they've been following that very closely well it's piece by piece they've taken over like the whole issue of lobbyists of not having any down time between being in public office and the next day going to work for as a lobbyist you fill in the blank we have lots of those examples or the other way around being a lobbyist and now we can go run for office without you know any down time or any restrictions on being in those roles so i think there's a number of ideas and regulations and laws that should be put into place to separate out these two systems yes there's sixteen states yeah fourteen were done by state legislatures by resolution and two or referenda from the legislatures that got on the general election ballots and were passed by the populations and how it developed in that particular state right so for example in this state the people who were the predecessors to one manned actually forming tried for four years in the state legislature to get a resolution through the state legislature but never got both houses to agree the last two years that passed the house and it didn't get out of pam roach is a senate committee on government relations because she didn't want to leave her committee she wanted to die there so it did and so after four attempts to get it through the state legislature for a resolution we finally said no we've got to do it ourselves and hence citizens initiative and this is significant because not very many states and in fact i don't think any states at this point in time have done a complete citizen's initiative where you have to in this state it's you have to get eight percent of the last gubernatorial election of the number of voters who voted for the last governor so that translates into approximately two hundred forty eight thousand so a lot of states john nichols was here a number of months ago with robert majestically when they were promoting their book dollar ocracy and he said a lot of states are watching watching the state of washington because if you can pull off a citizens initiative that everybody knows and especially politicians know that the american people are finally speaking and it's just some euphemism that they're uttering back in d c yes well first of all we haven't seen our opponents yet and several weeks ago we were talking with ben well you all know ben cohen of ben and jerry ice cream fame he's coming out here he wants to support this initiative and he's driving his van out here is someone on his staff is driving it across this the stamp stamp the stampede bubby oh you know where he stamps the money the currency is not to be used for bribing politicians and othe great other great sayings so he's coming out and i was talking with his one of his political advisers who works for a public relations firm that in washington d c and edward was saying that he didn't think that we would have much opposition unlike the five twenty two campaign and that's because the five twenty two campaign the  the food labeling was directly attacking a specific industry so those corporate interests were very clearly identified and their self interest was very clear there but he's thinking that we probably don't have to raise a lot of money for advertising campaign ads to counter a direct attack we should use more for social media and his thinking i think was that this is more of a motherhood now apple pie who would be against your democracy who could say well my votes really more important than yours or how would they spin it i think it's just harder to spin and i don't know if if i'm getting at your question but who knows we haven't been there yet and we'll have to see what happens first we have to get on the ballot that's right so yes no great great question in terms of how the big picture on this process what i can tell you is that no amendment to the constitution and in fact  laws but especially amendments have been passed without great prolonging to public pressure in fact one could say near revolution the civil rights act a lot of blood  before anything changed and before amendments happened and it's not going to happen from one or two states it's going to happen because it's a social movement sweeping the country for many years the only thing that this vote will do in our election in november is it technically can only urge our congressional representatives to bring a bill to do this and congress which is why we have to do this state after state we have to prove to congress without a doubt beyond a shadow of a doubt that people across the country believe that we are losing our voices that corporate power that it's becoming an oligarchy and that is wrong so i when i first started working on this i wanted to work on this really hard and be done with it you know i like to solve problems and then go on with my life i'm sorry it doesn't work that way it's not going to work that way it's about a it's about consciousness raising it's about waking up and taking back our citizenship it's about talking to other people and all across the country and deciding that my vote really matters and i've got to stand up for it or i'm not going to be living in a democracy so it's a process when john nichols was here we were talking with him after his talk town hall and and we said well what's going to happen what's going to happen and he said what's going to happen i can't predict all i know is that if they were building a nuff public pressure and a public statement that beyond a shadow of a doubt and everybody knows what the american people want and they want their democracy back and they don't think that they've got it now they're not being their representatives are not representing them their representatives are representing who bought their last election and beyond a shadow of a doubt we have to prove that we know what's up that we know that that's the gig and it's up well said wells and i applaud you for that i want to repeat that for the for the film and that is that we've got to show our  kids we've got to demonstrate not tell them not lecture to them we've got to demonstrate that we are still citizens and that we are involved in this campaign and in every other campaign that we vote and we don't sit on you know back and complain that we get out there and work for our democracy or else it won't be there yes but we can't rest on our laurels out all pretty revolutionary war starts back in england in europe in the development of the became the corporation so you're right you know and so it's the long arc of history back there right jay you want to come and talk about that or you want me to yeah oh what jay answer that question two weeks ago when steve night i picked up  ten boxes of how many and each box twenty twenty five thousand petitions and within three days i think had been distributed throughout the entire state so we have got a team of people unfortunate we don't have a nuff of a team of people but we have got a handful of people almost every community throughout the state what we need are people like you who are really angry about this and are willing to spend time and get involved and more than just carrying petitions we really need you out there looking for more people to do the same thing it's going to take i think we need three thousand people who have committed themselves to getting one hundred apiece one hundred signatures that's five sheets of these petitions and at the moment we have in our database twenty five hundred people that we have gathered in the last eight or nine months but not all of them were excited at one time but you know how this works it's like a revolving door somebody six sided one day and i think our  database shows here in central seattle something like seven hundred people who volunteered to help but when we put out a call last week for all of those people to come to a meeting we're lucky to get three or four so we have got a huge undertaking and the best thing you can do is go out take one of our sign up sheets and take that around and get people to commit to fully filling up one entire middle of june there are some interesting events coming up and you know we're growing we were kind of behind the eight ball we got off to the to a slow start because this is really a you know we did this for you about four and a half years ago with a handful of assistant and officers who got together to start talking about what we could do and and over time we realized that well maybe the only thing or one of the only things or maybe the i'm the place to start striking at the root to use lawrence lessig terminology maybe what we need to do is go after the constitutional amendment to get corporations and their money out of politics that would certainly there are other things going on there's the the anti corruption acts sponsored by represent us which is terrific populism that is spreading throughout the country and it is like going like wildfire and just watching the news and listing things for the last couple of weeks i've noticed that if you notice it all the sudden the the right wing is starting to talk about how much they hate us how much you know they're there they're talking about taking away our money and how nervous the super rich of all of sudden got in there or perkins or whatever his name was talking about how the the the mega rich are being persecuted in this country and it's drawing analogies to nazi nazi germany so there there is definitely something in the wind so there is hope and you know i say let's jump at the opportunity we have we have ten team leaders in each of our thirteen areas we've divided state up into thirteen geographic zones and each one has got one or two or three points of contact and those are all listed on the wall and website if you go to the website and over on the right hand corner it'll say how to get petitions and one is download it and take it to a predator and get it double don't reduce it to half by eleven paper it will be thrown away one of our people was seen on the streets the other day and he said oh yeah i thought it was too big it wouldn't fit on my  my piece of my board so i took it and had it reduced in size and had totally wasted you know twenty signatures and he fortunately knew who they were so he can go back and fill them up pret both it's got to be double sided printed exactly the way it looks on on the website but you can download a copy take it to a print shop and have them printed on eleven by seventeen paper you can the next line down on the website says find your team leader click on that it'll take you to a chart or not necessarily yet chart will tell you what municipalities and what zip codes are in which area and then you can actually clip on click on one sil's name is on there and you can write her and say we're doing we're doing pick up petitions we're trying to find places around the states where one of our representatives will be like every saturday afternoon from one to three and you can go there and you can drop off your petitions and you can pick up new ones same time so we're working on that it's a little more difficult on the other side of the mountains to find places but we're thinking of  know using starbucks and places like that as our temporary offices yeah we'll have some there there are bunch of them right here and yes so if any of you want to get involved in a bigger way than just being a gatherer of gather if you want to help and work with the team leaders we need people in management positions we need people to do data entry this is a citizen based it's a good thing it's its base because we can't we you know that i don't think there's a corporation out there who's going to support us maybe small mom and pop businesses and we have received some endorsements from the small businesses around the state but the corporate this is never going to be in the newspaper that you never going to see this on television because they know what we're talking about and it's not in their interests to let anybody know that we're out there doing this this is a truly citizen and based operation if we're ever going to take and recreate a democratic state it ain't going to be through the help of the corporations so who's going to fight us well if we get ourselves on the ballot i suspect that the u s chamber of commerce will get involved in doing some advertising and spend some money to overcome it  conversations and really that's what this whole movement is about is having this conversation that we've had together tonight with lots of your friends and neighbors and just spread the word so the movement can keep growing and i just wanted to underscore one thing in d v d where she was talking about how in two thousand and ten the expenditures out of the super pacs was three hundred million dollars and that sorry you know since one thousand nine hundred that was twenty years so you know and then it's been even worse since two thousand and ten i know that you all know that but that's why we're doing this because we want to get our democracy back and i also just wanted to underscore what jay was talking about is we need all sorts of help we've got lots of events we've got the university farmer's market the ballard farmer's market if you happen to have come from over there and the fremont farmer's market ballard and fremont are on sundays in the universities on saturday will be out here for the university street fair we have may third opening day they'll be thousands of people down there and we need signature gatherers as well as you know we've got folk life and that type of thing but especially because many of you might be here march sixteenth to hear john deere upstairs  if you plan on being here please let me know and i would love to provide you with some petitions yeah and when elizabeth warren is here may twenty ninth because i bet a lot of you will be here so please help us out on those days and if you would like to organize an event or be responsible for your neighborhood area just let me know in would be happy to talk to you and it's good is it not sell to carry some voter registration forms with you because sometimes you run into somebody who hasn't registered to vote here yet also i don't know if you've been doing this or not but you don't have to be a registered voter or twenty why are eighteen to be able to carry the petition this is a great high school senior project so if you know of people who feel passionately about this and want to carry the petition this is something they could certainly do well are there any further questions at this point ok what i'd like to do is invite those of you who would like to get a kit and carry this word by am courage people to form teams of two or three people get two or three friends together and one kid sit down and say ok we could speak to this group that group the other group and then start your own little speakers bureau where again you're not the let the d v d clips deliver the speech and your job is to guide the discussion and do the call to action which is to sign the petition then  there and or to carry a petition and to help be a part of this process so come on over here if you want to get a kid and get plugged into this or more petitions from still here yes you can see the clips on the all of the clips that we showed tonight are on the website and including ashley  sanders timelines i called it on this but yes i would absolutely recommend that you look over and spend as much time as she can on the woman web site go to the tool kit it's got a dropdown window there you'll find all the videos and a lot of other clips and interviews with people you will be able to sign up on our on the outreach tab you can sign up to be a part of the get into the  database so you start receiving the newsletter and the e mail blasts you want to be sure and do that and then the other thing i really recommend for more in depth is move to amend dot org all spelled out move to men dot org is the national organization that now has approaching two hundred affiliates across the country and they really have given us a lot of leadership that we've taken a lot of cues from them and they are the experts when it comes to the whole concept of this is moot about movement building for the long haul they have that perspective thank you very much for coming reverend rich thank you for hosting this and i really would like to have you show the ashley sanders clip because that's an hour and this crowd i'm sure will come back but watch it on one man to it's really really excellent for background thank you so much