creativity so tonight we're going to cover some ideas of people that actually are you know really are creative i think are leading kind of the way on the means by which we can do things in architecture of our future architecture the future technology arctic and the future of our survival as a people and what's that mean well you've got certain things going on we just had eighteen dispensaries closed down here or should i say were created by that he should say they took things from them but some of them are still open and that was in tacoma in libya as well and this will be a weekend after or shall i say we will be covering the olympia infest this weekend to get ready for that but we're going to cover some ideas with l e d lighting going on what is outdoor growing what commercial what's industrial what's medical what's organic medical whole lot of different things happening here i'm sure sure and i asked her of the state liquor board overseeing this thanks for being here today and if we get things going on and by the way that's me right there will be will see if we get that up there thank you very much and then herb we're going to cover some ideas with being able to cover a means of getting people to understand what l e d lighting herb's going to kind of help me talk with with matt as far as i'm bring your credentials up matt we're going to bring you up here in just a second hold on as we get y there in there you are and we're got you guys in the background if that's vance ronson and that's jason collins and you guys were trying to figure this thing out and you guys are trying to help us figure it out with flush the lighting we get that senator craig thanks for being on all the live give us some ideas like we're at the cannabis cup in richmond california this last june two so it seems like you put a lot of thought into how the plants going to respond to the light that you're throwing down how long did you actually spend researching what the plant needs that other really needs are not providing  be so much more efficient matter of fact i have known many people who went out and bought some of the first models on the market and use them for their seedlings and killed other seedlings because i didn't realize that all the light is falling into a pattern that's much more dense than you would get from the inverse square law just doesn't apply in cases like that so they may misuse their leaves a lot do you find a lot of people who start using your l e d's need to relearn how to be like how to live their gardens i don't bill well you know a lot of drawers like to think in terms of watts per square foot you know and most especially how many watts of light per square foot are striking the plants how do you how do the yields measure up but compared to regular not seems like the major difference between us and everybody else who is carrying the manufacturing process and a lot of sense going down in terms of quality and whatnot but your stuff also seems to be very tightly controlled very tight tolerance why so have you heard of anybody using those connecting them to a solar panel and using them for supplemental light in the spring in the fall outside i have heard people talk about it as the and before you go mention somebody else really you have to have an excuse because anybody forget the golden rule i mean we just like rosa parks in my opinion all she wanted to do is sit down be left alone you know that all she wanted to be w anybody who knew nearly as much as i do about cannabis and i'm just blown away by both you guys yeah i mean i'm a big fan of smoking and getting high and all that but there's so much more to the plants and i'm just blown away as you guys who spend so much time investigating probably your own  anyway that's for all day live and i hope you guys are getting a up to speed because we're trying to keep that speed of knowledge going it's called the the travel of thought as we travel trying to create a means by which we can all become sustainable this is a stain of all me we have a right to be able to sustain to sustain our culture jobs our health our future kids and this is something for you characters in the apparatus of the government you know you're only representing people of power that want to maintain their or what we have to stay