i've been watching you for a while now and you seem really stranger than normal no no i'm completely a normal person i am a little odd but i'm completely normal and you know you're talking about something something seems wrong i mean you seem you know like you've found religion or something and i think i think i'm completely normal well everyone thinks they're completely normal but you know really only i can decide whether you're completely normal or not i'm the arbiter oh i understand it sounds like dog sounds like you're worried are you worried well yeah yeah i'm a little worried and things are things have been tough well you know i'm going to say i'm going to relieve you here because because you don't have to worry because you know why ok joined a cult is good yes i don't think i don't think you have to worry anymore because now i have a cult you know well that ok i hope it's not one of those doomsday cult well i'll tell you it's it's kind of like a doomsday cult but it's sort of the opposite because i can you know doomsday call a cult is filled with people who have sort of are convinced that the world's going to end right and that's fine you know because they can have a little parties and they can run around and hold little signs because they are so sure that the world's going and that they're willing to make idiots of themselves right well it's nice to have a reason yeah yeah but i the cult i join well it's a cult of people who sort of are are facing the uncomfortable possibility that maybe the world won't seems crazy so i joined this wonderful little cult doug and it's ok ok tell me more well it's all based on this weird thing that people are developing called science yeah i've heard about that alt yeah  yeah well you know this whole group of people in a well that's a small group of people in italy and they're what they're doing and they they believe that they have created this wonderful little machine that that can create energy energy you know it's like you know stuff we used you know like like an energy you know like when you put it isn't this where you get energy and drive stuff you know you get energy from it from italy you're saying yeah it comes from italy and they sounds like sex almost except it's nothing like that because everybody hates cold fusion and this weekend hate so therefore not like that at all ok well what is it is it like ice cream it's exactly like ice cream except you have these little machines by adding some sort of a neutron to the little the little molecules minute it does sound like science this is a cult yes absolutely it's a cult so anyway it's very controversial and i'm completely obsessed about it i've been reading about it for months and months and months and i'm like i was kind of standing on the fence like you know it was kind of weird and it was it was it was interesting because you know obviously the economic implications of this are incredible because remarried and all of our money is all based on oil so if our oil is suddenly worth a little bit less than what we think it is then everything changes in dog no no it's eat cat yes i don't know why oh yes you have got some sorry there the world can't run on cats yes the world's going to run on cats and the you're going to take a little full of nickel and throw it in this little machine is going to create energy for you  and stuff oh well ok i'm i'm partially convinced you wouldn't have been you're pretty you're ready for our cold almost dug we you wouldn't happen to have a song that could convince me the rest of the way would you well you know it just so happens that we have a tom and doug song well you know i kind of dragged doug along that being you this song oh thanks for telling me  all the best and he answered me directly on his blo there was a good song i'd like to join your cult but i didn't understand all of that song oh ok so ok so explain that song to me a little more well i have course am a petroleum product it occurred to me a couple years ago that you know what human beings are petroleum products we are made by petroleum and we are born and live in all of our needs are provided by the fact that cheaper petroleum exists and i thought well you know if we're running out of petroleum or if it becomes more expensive and more difficult to get more petroleum out of the ground because there's more and more people in this more and more people using the petroleum then that that would be a problem in the world remember the energy crisis the big thing that happened when we were kids they said my god the energy crisis yes i do and all this i remember i remember when gas went up from forty to forty four cents you know it was crazy it was shocking it was shocking and we couldn't we couldn't deal with it in those days well see i've been very interested in all of these alternative energies too and the one that the midwest i think is uniquely positioned for is is wind energy wind energy yeah i see it like you know all on these signs that you know we need more wind energy and i figure and i've got some of those no toys on my my kitchen table the you wind them up and they go because you put energy into it by winding them and i think you are ready for the cult doug i think you can lead our called excel if we need more wind energy yes indeed yes i you know they have that you have the little winding thing that jumps up and down now the really good and i also saw this energy that you wind up and it so i'm i'm right i'm behind the e cat and for wind energy and you know anything else that we can throw into this cult by the end of the show ok well let's think about that what other what other things can we throw into this called well let's let's go listen to another song or two and we'll come back to it later sounds good plowing through the feet we would have been so happy now there is no believe for the dreams all die at the moment th for example how many units of heat say with ten of the same units of supply are then one hundred watt that's crazy you kidding me oh wow well how do you invent it mainly versa i know crazy but most of all i established a new scientific method to make science based on experiments rather than speculations there's no actual well official science tried to roast me for all that i know that organic oh ok i can do that when do you think you'll start producing that gadget to start the route that's going to make these billions of them these very beginning yeah these may very strong green right now cult no no we have we we are the cult ok good good we are the cold part of the cult yeah because i'm a little part you know i didn't really do any of the work in saving the world for their power crisis you know but i'm happy to put my name out early as your name oh no so you see i am i i not not only will i put my name on it i will take full responsibility because i am part of the problem i have helped to create this crisis you know yeah yeah yeah because they don't look at well let's see i drive to the mailbox that's a good yeah which is really hard because the mailbox is attached to the side of my house and i even drive to the e mail box  and let's see i i just ate some grapes from peru very good and you know so so all the things that i'm eating and drinking you know if you actually think about how they got to your table there's a vast amount of petroleum involved yes oh yeah it's an unbelievable energy it's all over the place we are petroleum products and the good news is i think god is happy about that it was about time god's happy about something  don't the earth up and it spins c oh i get it yeah yeah so luckily tom and doug have another song about cults do we and we do i'm read and we tell them to get lost because we only want to do what he wanted to food we only want to play what we want to play we only want to be what we want to be we only want to say what we are  doubting that maybe the world is going to end today you know yeah well that would be good and and the good news about is we can just wait and see oh no that's that's that's too easy only kids will get we need to fight about what's happening in an hour from now and then the whole world's going to blow off the off the off the tracks and and they're going to be saying tom and doug are smart people who knew about this five seconds before everybody else did and then in the late october they're going to  unveil a one megawatt power plant is that great doug that is great and that's almost enough power to power this show of course this is a crazy talk and it's crazy idea but at this point in time in this pipe point in my life i don't know that it's not real it's like love in that actually i follow you know you think that this person is this wonderful person and for those five minutes when you're meeting that person they feel they could be that person that's right they could they could provide all the energy the rest of your life now and you don't know that it's not real and that's what i have is like that's what joining a cult is like  i'm all over this this is fantastic this is a cult i can believe it all right well we were going to branch off and bring this cult into all sorts of places all right well go under our aussie yet and let's let's hear it for the cat yes here we go everybody everybody buy your cats in route i don't think you can even do anything about it but just follow the news and don't laugh when people talk about it ok that it all right well we will see you next week on the