to be learning so i don't know that much about this subject area very familiar with so bear with my ignorance or please welcome very much the manhattan network thank you put in my you know my great good pleasure i enjoyed that night the other of the american to raney and friendship committee that's quick he's also chairman of an organization stop the war on iran campaign and if you need include that he's got a bad on him that says hands off iran which has some sort of a clue to what we might be talking about and welcome very very much a conversation that one of you might share as i said to you before i just you have a template i use of these conversations but could you share your own background where you were born and raised some of your education on the pipes the oil pipes that brought the oil from developed into the viewfinder the and then exported abroad and then no after a year or two i decided to continue my education is that you would have been in your early teens when he was overthrown if i'm not mistaken i was i was a bit nervous to the to the hold upheaval really and yes explain it to you and i came to the united states to study physics and i did study physics for a year or so but i changed to put economics when did you were going to study here politics that informs economic their eyes and by which the basis of all politics is economics thank you i think that also i think that's really basic and they get all kinds of ideological things they try to of debate but really when you come down to it it's usually always having to do with a famous man said that man has to eat st and then think about politics we also had a famous american tip o'neil man in a military jeep have you killed anyone off i said no i haven't you know me can i put my books together he said no you're not coming back i said watch my lord who august people they going to the depressing or the going some other places now is said could you help because you're you're a very rainy and the event of the overthrow or you i think of i'm not mistaken united states and the cia was involved in overthrowing most of the day and i think you would say if i understand popular and is that important event in the recent history of iran in terms of the consciousness of the iranian people who have that very closely in mind mosaddegh who was elected democratically so he was and not sure nice you know he was not a socialist and he was not a communist as a matter of fact probably he was unti communist but he had to the overthrow not because of the british petroleum decided that most of the cost to go one reason that they they wanted to change the socialist parties working class unions that propping up all over the country people's participation in politics and discussions of going to classes demanding schools children need the schools is the truth if you give them an inch they'll demand a mosque they just cannot understand why they boarded those properties we had another yacht to build for the people that owned it and so yeah that kind of thing is that that that and them in the end that's an important mark herb in the history in the modern history of iran you know and it resonates very strongly and also you are coming into the modern world but you're also coming out of a tremendously long rich history that sometimes the forgotten by some of the europeans and so forth you had a rich history there one way way way back and in fact we were just chatting  entity of a religious figure and that that rich tradition goes where you are back and i think that counts for something also done yes is for months ago i visited the it on you did yes we have to you know after twenty five years and outside the hoffa's and sad he composed you see the depth of the evening in history and culture absolutely and it was the link between it was a link between indus valley and duty you had left in you'd come here to study and then had you kept your ties with people family and so forth in iran did you keep you kept track of what was going on i'm sure did you have a chance to go back in those intervening and rank in the engineering department of college and my averages are high in the ninety's and please have mercy on me they were torturing you physically physically one could talk to his brother or sister or mother about politics my brother who was older than me when i attended the college i started going to college said brother do not talk politics to anyone and if you met some people talking politics they go and do other things the shock for a quarter of a century really that backed by the united states and we thought he was something rep he was represented as modernizing in a way that iranian world that kind of thing that was the image that we were trying oh then i came out of the united states and i saw the running water in every building i was wishing to shaw would do just same for the lawn when i drove in the south in texas and i saw this beautiful roads smooth throws that you can drive in and i was wishing i hope to show one day bins that kind of roads in i said the embassy of the united states never showed any iran black people living in this country and i see the black people moving around  that you were not able to voice any of that i was quiet i was quiet about seeming simmering hatred yes i think that's representative of a lot of people of the world who are told to accept the situation the way the world is being run but people have suffered a lot at the hands of the united states administrator chanson do you think the move people of the world have suffered a great deal at the hands of the united states when i look at the iraq and afghanistan today  months he said you'll come to discount tree to demonstrate against the wall hit the ground running as i said even if i was in paris i would have done the same thing they did sixty three years early because sixty five they were still thing we're bringing peace and justice and everything that sort of thing and they always do say that they never they were there to avoid people yes in our aggressive attitudes just to bring progress so you got into political economy and then you studied did you get it come classes and i would put my education into practice and serve the country with political economy meaning certain planning planning for the country to overthrow the shaw while they did that mr khomeini i think he had been in france for a while and then he came in they made a revolution and took american hostages for four hundred odd days and made a revolution themselves government or a new situation the power after he came to power after he came to work out a prize to you that he came to power it was a surprise it was a it was a surprise to me because the other stratus and classes also involved in organizing and continue teaching to the poor so over two of the shaw and when he came to power decidedly controlling all the annals of power in the government it was somewhat somewhat surprising to me i was just standing sometimes i stood on the corner of this street and i saw one man young man that is behind me i cannot i cannot blame him for it yes we talked about the working class but the working class did not follow three to some extent against the majority so in me the thirty were the majority and they have always been majority all these in the majority and there seems to be a great sectarian animosity there and through hard for us to understand maybe you could help clarify what the source of the deep animosity between the shia and the sunni and i understand it has to be it's very complex for a while then what's the big is that like protestant statistics of the number of attacks made in the last month and i saw according to them to the media seventy percent of death tax than made against american population as a matter of fact in this school and that i attended a nobody on there was a student to my right and he needed some help with his physics and chemistry and i did know and i did the mind the jewish population lived in iran for two thousand years around and there was no such an onion massu that existed in europe against the jewish population home and today the wellcome the the aim of the military there's a big movement that would go and bomb iran which i guess you're aware of some of these neo cons want to bomb iran and because of the current hours but we've got to get it up to the present yes so let's try to bring it up the present because we're talking in two thousand and six and what the date september th rice is something yes two thousand and so you've got the committee hands off iran you've got your thing the committee to stop the war and bring it up to date a but we've just come out of the incursion of the israeli forces we have the israeli question there we have the their war that was fought in lebanon we have nots rolla who is a merged in the minds of many having been able to stand up to the invincible power supposedly of the israelis lobbing three hundred weapons into high for on the last day of the incursion much of the arab world as i understand it feels that he is emerging as a hero to being able to stand up to the traditional power of israel backed by the united states with an ending military support and that he is he's emerging as a hero i saw the amir of katar say that he they thought he was going to say that he is had by all of the law should be desirable and so forth and he came out and he said they've given a new  impetus to this and the arab to question the invincibility of the israeli american presence there and then now they're saying that that had been a that that incursion into lebanon was seen as a way to abolish hezbollah so that it could play or the way for an attack upon syria and iran i heard and others has said that they think the an attack is going to come against iran because they have a nuclear program that the united nations is the shouldn't and they  e so this is part of the context against were to form this committee to stop the war in iran and maybe you could set me straight where i'm wrong and some of that is that that summary of the current situation as you and i sit here and times one of the st members of that treaty during those years that the shah was in power the united important modern nies asian development that should be encouraged articulate for why can't iran go along that line i would like to know  the united states and britain it is my understanding of the history of the lawn they have tried to keep iran under developed bear for pregnant in the kitchen yes if you could use something maybe for you know they could become a threat to our power we've got all the power we can intimidate you with it and if there's something you can't develop because if you develop you might become a threat to us that people you've got things going on in latin america there is a resistance against the system in the assumed legitimacy that the united states of america is running dog allies around the world living in gated communities all over the world serving themselves and not serving the mass of talking with there a flounder so i think you know today she confirmed for me that the disparity of wealth between the arista o's one thousand seven hundred and eighty nine france and the disparity of wealth between the super reality in the united i'm going to tell you it was mr ice of again because it's staggering mr recruitment says that the growth in the last three or four years or something that it didn't go the growth didn't go to just the upper five percent of one for the it went not even to of one percent of what the th of one percent is where all the growth for it within the american economy is like the arista like they futile to lords of the past and what they've got all the assets they've got all the power and we're all picking up leaves on their estate it's like feudal when i was ok was amazing one of the problems is you're too interesting ok that's your problem you shouldn't be so interesting because i could talk to you for twenty five hours but you were recently in iran visited back in iran and you do you happen to get some footage there video footage american friends earning friendship committee and stop the war on iran let's run that piece of tape in it goes for about six minutes and if you run that  again i were there are these are these rumblings now that there are come they want to set it up as they did with iraq they want to set it up to an attack iran this is something that is blowing in the wind as they say now this is a threat they they made a big mess in iraq that's hope they do not make a big mess in iran and we ought to keep your committee in place to keep educating people so that we do not allow this country to be led astray as they have been led astray in iraq and  century there are people that want to institute a war clash of civilizations samuel huntington and bernard lewis and some of these people a lot of it has to do and it with protecting israel in the minds of many that you had a fight with israel israel no longer seen and so they're being busy and that's another part of the overall context for the president of iran hatami is here and at the moment he would like i on would like to negotiate to dialogues solving the problems and not to water that's by all means the way to go we ought to run the graphics and so forth here the problem is we run out of  money yes and he is again the founder of the american arena and friendship committee in these also chairman of stop the war on iran campaign and we put up contact information it's up on the three now and they'd be happy to be in touch with you and to help share you they've got literature and so forth they can make available thank you for all their good work and i appreciate you very much for coming in to let this just the beginning