we had a chance to talk to dr russell blaylock m d a retired neurosurgeon and author his trailblazing research as tirelessly documented the fact that there is an epidemic of neurological disorders in the western world directly tied to toxins in our environment and the story behind the story concerning the larger global eugenics program behind population reduction i'm dr russell blocking i'm a board certified neurosurgeon  retired from active practice now do primarily theoretical research and nurse sciences and spend most of my own time writing research articles review articles on your science projects at the present time what i found interesting in all of this when i first started looking at it looking at the funding by the rockefeller foundation and many of the other foundation like ford foundation the  carnegie foundation and looking back into the history of and i came accidentally upon a book by dr lily kay she was doing a research project looking at the origins of molecular biology in the united states and that was primarily my interest was just reviewing the history of molecular biology but to my surprise much of the book describes the what was called the science of man project by the were concerned that society was made of a lot of people they considered undesirables their definition undesirable with people that had a lower i q people that had physical defects people who had diseases people who did not behave in a way that the group of elitist old people should behave in a society so their idea was to use eugenics which was the science at the time to redevelop man create a new type of person and they are going to term social engineering now course at that time we didn't have d n a as a as a concept  so they were using rather crude genetics to bring this about in the very beginning so what she shows is the rockefeller foundation was really putting a lot of money in this and in order to do that thought what i'll do is i will fund major universities and he picked cal tech as one of those universities and then some in the east like harvard and johns hopkins and columbia university chicago as the primary centers where this type of study would be carried out and how to really engineer human beings to be in the form that they thought humans should to before hitler became well known in power they were traveling to germany and exchanging information on these eugenics programs so a fair amount of this information came from the rockefeller foundation of course after war two when the world found out a lot of what was going on in eugenics and in the horror of eugenics most of these programs were abandoned in the rockefeller we would have stablished major institutions in the united states that would control medical education through his general education board which was a very powerful foundation regular regulation of education in america and so he would appoint professors that would be directors of these programs he groomed people who believe like he did that in fact man should be redesigned we need a science of man to really engineer human beings but do it in a more scientific way than this crude eugenics program that he began with and what that necessitated which using what we call molecular biology well with the discovery of d n a this became more sophisticated and that you could manipulate certain genes and change how the brain function and of course in the big got into the neuroscience field itself  to look at war how does the brain work how can we change behavior altering brain function and this is led up to the present day when we have things like the decade of the brain where there's intense study of the is we're going to recreate man in our image we think man should be how people should think what they should think the limitations on their behavior it's a true scientific social engineering of human beings well leading from that when we start looking at well look at some of the programs that have sort of bird out of this you know the high tech d n a manipulation brain manipulation through electrodes or through transmission outside of electrodes to change human thinking these are more sophisticated programs that are a little bit more obvious but then there's things that are less obvious for instance floor dating water we look at the original justification for floor dating water back in one nine hundred forty five when they picked a couple of cities grand rapids cavities that had nothing to do with fluoride what it had to do with was increase intake of calcium mainly through cheese consumption and better diet and better oral hygiene and a number of studies prove that one of which was conducted by the us public health service in one of the largest american studies at the time they looked at thirty nine thousand school children in which they looked at the effect of fluoridation versus non fluoridation and they found it had no beneficial effect at all well they hid that document so scientists couldn't examine and the public and the media would never see it while a doctor young yana us who is a chemist filed a freedom of information also had it released and then he saw why they wanted to hide it and that's because it clearly demonstrated fluoride did not reduce cavities since that time there's been a number of studies one which included eight countries another which included all studies on fluoride independent studies on florida dental caries for the past thirty years another study included four hundred thousand children in india all of the studies showed the same thing adding fluoride to water did not reduce cavies at all and in fact several of the studies it showed it increased cavities and it did recently completed that for dating water does not reduce cavities there's no modern evidence whatsoever that floor dating water reduces cavities at all so you have to ask the question why you still floating water now european countries have caught on very quickly none of them floor date their water britain florida it's about sixty percent of its water and it forced fluoridation on  own but the mainland european countries do not forward a war do not allow it but the united states we still have the federal government and inclusion with the american dental association going to that scientifically we've proven that floor dating water has no effect on reducing cavities why is the federal government spending so much money and effort to force fluoridation of the rest of the water supply and even insisting that bottled water be florida that no one would have access to and florida water except the elite well if we look at the scientific studies and what is the effect of fluorida two scientists did one of the largest cancer studies in relationship to food and water supply they looked at all cities ten cities in the eastern part of the united states and they showed that in florida dated cities as compared and forty there's a ten percent increase in cancer this was a criticized study so they repeated it and they did all cities east of the mississippi above ten thousand population comparing florida and untoward data now what they did they compared the cancer statistics before fluoridation and then thirteen same teen years after florida again they found there was a ten percent increase cancer death and students in the city that had been florida now when you say cancer death and i mean people who died of cancer you can appreciate there could be a lot more people who develop cancer who didn't die so the actual cancer incidence much higher this study was so impressive to some members of congress they ordered a study of this link to cancer through the battaile research institute these studies showed that number one it produced a number of types of cancer one which was a very rare liver cancer and it's significantly increased the growth of cancer in people who already had cancer well despite these studies they're still floor dating more they found out it increased fractures not only in the elderly but in younger women and it increased hip fractures in older men to a greater extent than the women well a hip fracture in someone over sixty five has a high mortality rate so it's a good way if you wanted to to increase the mortality the elderly and get them out of the what which is in discussion today of different elements on the brain why she was drafted into doing this when she worked for the for size down research institute and she had never worked with flora didn't know a lot about it and i know this firsthand because of interviewer and talk with her and i know work and she said she when she first was going to do the research project to see if laura dating water had any effect on the brains function she thought it would be negative she didn't think fluoride would have any adverse effects on the brain she did one of the larger studies that's been done in animals to see the effect of florida in water on their brain function and she used a very innovative modern technique and in this technique she used computers to see the behavior of the animal so that it was totally objective there was no subjective and fluent by the researcher themselves that had never been done before and all this was hot tech equipment she completed her study and to her surprise the floor i had produced two main effects if you fed fluoride to a pregnant animal the all spring then became very prestigious germs to be published and they didn't know it so she presented it to the national institute of health and their response was very cold and she said when she was walking through the national institutes of health all the walls were dorn with big posters proclaiming the effectiveness of fluoridation and water and promoting the forward in war and she said this isn't very objective audience i'm speaking  sending this to a journal to be published and they wanted the name of the journal while she wouldn't help because she knew they would try to stop the publication try to influence the journal not to publish it so she wouldn't tell and it was published  much to their dismay and anger and a wide audience of scientists began to look at this research which for the first time prove that fluoride added to water in the concentrations that humans are exposed to was producing profane and profound changes in the brain and altering behavior of young animals exposed to it we have to realize at the time being exposed to concentrations of fluoride that were used in this experiment where she after they found that this had been published they far and the first  dental research institute in fact about that time and got a quarter million dollar grant from the colgate company with florida so she was five former job she's never gotten another federal grant and she was one of the top nerd talks colleges in the world she had created this innovative new system where she went back to her lab to get the rats for brains so that she could continue research on her own it turns out they had flood lab claim there was a break in a water pipe it destroyed her computer system and they killed all the rats and incinerated so there is no tissue left to do any studies  n all of these things look rather suspicious so you know you have to come to your own conclusion what does this mean number one we know that there's numerous health effects of adding fluoride war we know fluoride in the human body that means it just keeps getting higher and higher concentrations the more you drink water if you want to produce the highest concentration of the mental you don't put it in the food you put it in the water because now not only does that produce lasser g apathy weakness tiredness in adults but if you do it in pregnant women the babies are born with low accuse and they never recover so even maal reduction of thyroid function in pregnant women has now been shown to produce significant neural behavioral problems in their offspring so we've got some rather profound problems with fluor that are now well documented from laboratories all over the world without any question for instance one of them dr varner did out of europe and which he looked at point five parts per million which is half of which put in water and found significant death of neurons in the brain and damage to the blood vessels that supply blood to the brain he's a highly regarded researcher he was published in a very prestigious  neurological journal so we have all of these studies proving that this is a very hazardous thing to do that it produces behavioral changes many of which we're seeing in the populations that are drinking that is still pushing as hard as they can and using taxpayer money to get all the water supply in the united states florida so i'll leave it to the audience  think for themselves what could possibly be the justification for doing such a thing if you've demonstrated it doesn't reach its objective that is reducing cavity which everybody now has admitted even the a to the baby's brain and they put out a warning now this is just on the government site and on their own side women should not recreate constitute their baby food with tap water the floor dated well you don't see that as a headline in your newspaper you don't see it on most major news t v stories which would reach most women it's just sort of kept under the cover so they can say well we did put out that warning was just an make it a widespread warning so a lot of women are still reconstituting their babies infant formula we floated tap water that even the a b a now admits is harmful to their brains so if we start looking some of the other things that are being done in this society for instance use of aspartame widespread use of aspartame which is also proven to be a brain doctor without any question it's also linked to an increase incidence of cancer to any of these things breast and fluoride reduces reproduction it influences sperm mobility sperm production and testosterone level in males and about cuma lights in these organs and gradually reduces  the ability to reproduce when we look at aluminum lead all of these things that are ending up in our water system are food that are being given as food additives we're day they would at least warn the public that it has effects on your reproduction has the facts on your risk of cancer has effects on your brain function your cognitive function your memory learning  has effects on the development of the brain of the child when all these things are known and in the scientific literature and peer reviewed journal why is the public being kept in the dark and so you know just answer that question yourself without saying well they're doing it on purpose you have to say well either they're doing it on purpose or they're there most incredibly stupid incompetent people in the world and they don't deserve to be in positions of power and should be removed from positions of power and people with good common sense replace them there's only two choices you have in this debate either they're incredibly stupid incompetent or criminal or they're doing it on purpose for a reason which goes back to the rockefeller design of human engineering when we look at vaccinations this country vaccinates children at a rate higher than anywhere in the entire world they get something like forty six different and engine exposures before they start school they're getting twenty six to thirty by age one now we see the federal government pushing more vaccination inclusion with the pharmaceutical companies that are making higher profits off of it international organizations are pushing it and you have to ask why now there's a recent study that's been done by neil miller and this study he compared the mortality of infants aged one and children five years and younger in relationship to the number of vaccines that they receive it is a direct dose response and every country examined for instance the united states has the highest vaccination right in the now for a nation that's supposed to be the leader of health care while we so far down the list of infant mortality in terms of high levels of infant mortality and directly correlation number of vaccine and if you follow the number of vaccines it's a straight line which shows a dose response of this toxicity of the vaccine and it makes sense because when you over vaccinate it interferes with the development of the brain and then the child has difficulty learning they become behavioral problems and their brain cannot develop normally and this is happening on a very very wide scale we're talking about ninety percent of children in this country are getting these huge number of vaccinations and despite the fact that we have this compelling evidence that it is harmful to the developing brain we have health care officials who are totally ignoring  and continued to promote it so we have to ask where where is this going to stop how many more toxins are they going to add to the burden to these people which is going to shorten their life you're with their ability to think clearly and why would you want your population to be apathetic and then able to think clearly and make decisions as independent thinking months i was one of the first people and the published literature to say when you remove the marrow saw from the vaccines you're not going to see much of a difference in autism right vaccines being given and the fact that you're over stimulating the immune system when you powerfully and repeatedly stimulate the immune system it activates the brain's immune cell the micro glia and that secretes destructive compound excited toxin immune cytokine that have been proven beyond any shadow of the doubt and hundreds of research papers to produce abnormal development of the brain and destruction of certain areas of the brain and types of neurons that's well known that's established now you have to ask again if this is so well known why do we keep adding new vaccine because now we're insisting not only do they get the forty six vaccine but then every four years many of these vaccines are to be repeated throughout the rest of their life even into adulthood it's been estimated that they're going to propose one hundred fifty vaccines for adults throughout your life well there's no way that the brain can tolerate one hundred fifteen repetitive vaccination so it's not mercury adds to the dogs is it but it's to fact that the brain is being overstimulated immunologically and that's proven whether it is an area that they're looking into so that they can give it in fewer vaccination exposure and that's because they have difficulty getting people to keep coming in and getting these dozens and dozens of vaccines to be a lot more convenient just to give one but you're still immunologically stimulating the body in a very very powerful way over a prolonged period of time if you do that in animals it damages the brain if you do that in animals that are young or during pregnancy it will reproduce things like schizophrenia alters and we know in women pregnant women if during their pregnancy they develop a viral infection the  schizophrenia and autism goes up tremendously and they're offering as they get older course schizophrenia to present until their teenage years so there's a there's a long period between the vaccination and the appearance of the schizophrenia which gave the nod bill of the for a long period of time while the new research has shown it's not the virus that's causing this schizophrenia it's the mother's immune reaction to the virus so when her immune system is activated it activates the baby's brain immune system and produces a process go in you know excited toxicity that produces them the womb brain development and the schizophrenia and alters when you stimulate the bod immune system it automatically activates the brain's immune system which is a separate in the unit system it's operated by the michael believes type brain cell when that brain cell is activated during a natural faction it's activated kills the virus or bacteria and then it shuts down if you enter a logically activated by giving injections like you do with the vaccine he turns it around and it doesn't turn off very well you give another bag seen a month later two months later that cell becomes hyper reactive so the natural reaction is infinitely more intense than the first one so the brain stays in this state of small children at least in your developmental problem difficulty learning a d d a d h d i think recently in the news you talked about the link between pesticides and a d h to well the interesting thing pesticides do twitter but being totally ignored by the media by health authorities by regulatory agencies by the people promoting vaccine that completely keeping this silent and away from the general public that in one thousand hand this was a dream of these elitist was to read create man in the image of the leader did and it was funded by enormous amounts of money from the tax free foundations which hide what they're doing with other types of philanthropy so if they using their money for art museums and education programs and things that that have a lot of public appeal then underneath that they can hide these other things that they're doing and then if they are exposed by someone then they say oh we're promoting these vaccine programs in africa because we care about these poor people and we're trying to  protect them against these diseases or where they are doing this for dacian program because we're interested in people's health of their teeth so it's easy to hide the true motivation of what you're doing now do we have the smoking gun that proves this is what they're doing when we don't have the exact smoking gun with those who are smarter than that they're not going to put it exactly in writing but when you look at the writings of the rock the ford foundation they hinted these things that population needs to be controlled that we need to reengineer human thinking and behavior so if if they're in favor of social engineering if they're in favor of the science of man idea of remaking the human mind it's a pretty strong indication that they would use their enormous power and influence and enormous amounts of money in conjunction with pharmaceutical companies and others to bring these these ideas about you know i find it ironic when people say they don't  believe in certain conspiracy theories well it's like h g wells road book type of his book is open conspiracy because it's not secret in this is what you usually hear is well if this was true how could they keep it secret well they don't need to keep it secret and it's not a secret because they'd write a lot about it they write about the need for control in these different areas they write about how the we need to control behavior and how we need to reengineer man so it's in their ridings it's an open conspiracy but they can keep people from making that final aim because they never actually say exactly how they're doing it and what they're doing if you stay funded you look for the funding behind  things like fluoridation then you look for funding behind some of these other efforts and it always goes back to the tax free foundations are the driving force behind it and they're producing the justification for it by hiding it behind benevolent claims brave new world revisited was about methods that were then were known to control human behavior you know actually talked about strong body conjecture in which you gave some molls psychotropic drugs to the population and you could inject thoughts into their their minds and they would think they t and suddenly you would change their whole way of thinking without their knowledge so that he was writing about this in one thousand fifties so that as one book h g wells wrote about it we have a number of people who are writing about the chemical alteration of the brain to change human thinking on a mass scale so it's not a new idea and unfortunately there are people who believe that strewed now this new move to put psychotropic drugs into the water supply for instance lithium should scare people you know they have no right to put mind altering drugs in the water supply is very dangerous for one thing we know lithium can accumulate in the brain we know that in some people it can produce serious neurological disorder know that if you're for instance omit the medication does that mean you can drink your tap water because the therapeutic doses very close to the toxic does so we're going to have to supply special water to them what do you do for small children would you do for babies what he do for pregnant women they can't drink the water supply because it's going to have a very profound effect on the small baby's birth and none of this is being considered well then other people are already stepping forward while not only sh had lithium to the waters of blood prevent suicide and depression we should add other drugs to the war there's a british physician who said we ought to add staten drugs and hypertensive dull water well then there's other psychiatr and people interested in human behavior so well i you know there's other drugs we could alter human behavior with well i don't think we need elitists scientists technocrats as you say altering  thinking by putting things in our and our water supply that's the drugging of america on a mass scale for these elitists to manipulate our minds and they have no idea what it is i mean look at the fluoride program for instance here start out it's very safe it's very benign now sixty years later we find out well now it's increased cancer rates ten percent it makes tumors grow faster it increases b reproductive problems what's one of the major things as just exploded since i've been in medical school is infertility in young people particularly clinics are everywhere young people are having trouble conceiving and no one has a scientific explanation other than these things that are being added to water and food exactly that are known to affect human reproduction this is another one of those living constitution right  where where the laugh says well it's not in the constitution it was not proposed by the framers of the constitution it was not part of the contract between the state and federal government but we've inserted it on our own without any vote without any constitutional methods of adding an amendment we just decided it would be good for society to do this and therefore we'll do it and if later we found out we've created a tragedy then well that's just the price of that you have to pay you know it reminds me of when malcolm muggeridge was traveling to the ukraine during the great ukrainian starvation and imposed by stalin he was riding on the train with a report of the new york times and the dead bodies were just piled up like cordwood everywhere and malcolm muggeridge was just shocked he said i  can't believe what stalin is doing and he turned to the new york times reporter walter duran and he said aren't you shocked by this he says oh you have to break some eggs to make an omelet we're building a new society well this is their idea this is their same viewpoint is that oh yes we may we may harm a lot of people we may kill some babies we may create some new diseases you know we may wipe out hope populations and time but that's the price we have to pay to create a new vision the new society and these people emitted in many of their writings if you if you take the time to read these things for instance one of the  great ophthalmologist i've forgotten his name now i think it was wise but he was an ophthalmologist back in the one nine hundred fifty s and one of the greatest they still give own award in his name and he wanted to euthanize anybody who was blind it always starts with the worst case scenario he said was terrible if people born blind they're poor what we'll do is we'll sterilize all families that had then he carried it even further so anyone with impaired vision should be sterile and then it became anyone who wears glasses should be sterile so we always see this progression it starts out with a worst case scenario to sell it to the public because the public feelings of sympathy and empathy are easily engendered when you pull this little child has horrible disease you say we need to do this so that this doesn't ever happen and then you why let them suffer when most people said well that makes sense i don't think people should suffer then oh well they're not going to die anytime soon but they have a disease that's crippling and it's not nice to have to live like that so we kill them well then people start saying well i don't know if i agree with that you know they can live with that condition they've just not be able do everything they'd like to what where did it end up then he was killing a woman because she was depressed so there's always this progression that starts out with a worst case scenario to salad because of its power of empathy and then once is so and becomes legislation and the law then we starting crew doing large numbers of people who are nowhere near this area well this is what happened in eugenics and eugenics they were going to round up anyone who didn't have full capability to have a harvard education they wanted to build compounds to put  proponents of this eugenics idea back in the one nine hundred twenty s and early thirty's were traveling to germany meeting with you genesis over there telling them about what we were doing in america in the early in which he was exchanging these eugenics ideas from the rockefeller foundation without work and hitler built a huge program of forced sterilization of people he felt like should and reproduce that's what stopped the eugenics movement in america eugenics anymore we're going to use the name social engineering so the people won't know what we're doing it we're continuing this program under a different name but it all started out in one thousand nine hundred and with that idea of science of man of recreating man scientific discovery took place as we learned more about cells we learned about d n a we learned about inheritance patterns had ginnie genes work how you turn a moan and all  pharmacology became more sophisticated all of this increase our ability technologically to carry out some of these things and you have to realize most amalek of our biology has been official i'm not opposed to molecular biology the vast majority of it is extremely beneficial but that gives you a huge cover because you can attack molecular biology so well what about the things we learned to stop diabetes what about the things we're doing now with heart disease and conjunction and using this technological ability can force behavioral changes in people against their will to use this technology to change your ability to have independence  all there's a neuroscientist by the name of delgado who was one of the leading experts in the world of deep brain stimulation he suddenly disappeared from the scene stopped publishing papers stopped writing books  attend conferences any longer and i think it was discover magazine traced him down and found him and i asked him what are you doing now and he said well i work for the federal government a secret project and he said what are you doing and he said well i can't tell you a lot of details but i don't have to use electrodes anymore to change human thought i can do it at a distance with my directed microwave and  it certain parts of your brain and fill you with fear or make you hear voices or see things and he says all i can tell you but i get unlimited money the best laboratory in the world and all  this research well he wrote a book before he did this and physical control of the mind and in that book he says the last refuge of the individual is their own thought and that is the target of certain people in the world it's to remove your ability to think on your own they made it where the people that they wanted to control understood this money comes to you as long as your project goes in the direction we want it to the money will stop flowing if you stop doing so there's this understanding that we are go where we want to go this and that if you want the money and you want this multimillion dollar laboratory we have this unwritten understanding and i don't even have to tell you you just kind of know that's what i protect the public and they gave justification you know contamination of the food if we don't regulate it contamination of this drugs if we don't regulate it which gave good justification for some regulation and different things to protect the public which most people agreed with the problem has is that over time the people with the most power and influence were able to influence the regulatory agencies so they were not looking after the public they were looking after the persons applying the most money and usually it is the very agencies that they regulate for instance the  they'll just pass this drug and give it the ok this is gotten so bad now we have just numerous drugs have entered the market and harmed and kill tens of thousands of people  which when the investigation looks at they found out in back they knew this drug was harmful before it ever approved their early studies simone had been faked by either the companies being investigated and the f was aware of it or the early studies did indicate that these dangers were there they approved it anyway and then once it entered into the marketplace thousands of people were harmed you may remember  some of the anti inflammatory cox two drugs one of came out on the market and it's estimated as many as eighty thousand people died of a complication that was known before the drug was ever approved and it was known by the f regulatory agencies so we have a number of cases in which the regulatory agencies were being heavily influenced by the people they regulate this is true with the superfund there's a number of studies looking at e p a and super d in which the people doing the polluting they're not corrected they just pass over and i've looked into some of this myself i wish some regulatory agencies for instance vaccine contamination i looked up some of the f d a records on the best geisha and the people that were supplying components of the vaccine that were heavily contaminated either with hepatitis virus or at risk of the mad cow pry on contaminants and what the f d a would do would go into the company identify the danger that they were collecting specimens that were contaminated or a high risk of contamination and then they would just write up a report and never come back and see if they corrected it so they are allowed to continue the practice without any fire and without any follow up to see if this had been stopped so this is one of the other reasons i worry a lot about vaccines because there's indications that they're highly contaminated they're using contaminated serum to make it by gay doing this from small labs all of the the world and states and there's been numerous cases in which for instance a vaccine in the u k they found out that one of the people that they were getting the serum from died of mad cow disease and their response was well we don't think it's going  problem but tens of thousands of people who see that vaccine contaminated with the mad cow so you know what we call this is the revolving door one of the best demonstrated examples and you can find its own betty more teeny side mission possible if you go to that site you'll find the full document reproduced and so when they were doing the first approval of  all and a board of scientists which included in their own scientists said well we don't think this should be approved because there's a very high absence of brain tumors a analysts exposed to aspartame and other tumors as well and some other problems well the chairman of that scientific committee overrode their decision and approved it anyway and then shortly after that i think within regulatory committee was asked to look at this and see if indeed there were increased number of brain tumors and so they went back and got all the g d cereal slides all the material that was used for these studies they found out that many of the slides had been destroyed that had tumors in them they found out that the people that were doing examination the slides were not qualified that the studies shown the effect of aspartame on developing babies was done by a person who had no experience whatsoever and examining the the embryo logic effects of this toxin and that there was evidence of numerous types of tumors being induced by aspartame in these studies this report was locked up in a file cabinet no one was allowed to see it until of freedom of information lawsuit was filed it was released when it was released it demonstrated all these things i've read it myself so i know what's in it and it's all true that they were destroying specimens hiding tumors lying about what was found and that's the if so basis of the approval of aspartame used today it was known that it's a corkage in a cage and they were known at the time that it produces damage to the brain that it contains excited toxins  cancers that has been essential repeated in even a larger study by a very prestigious research group confirming that this produced cancer in these animals we know that the aspartame contains breakdown products d k p and formaldehyde that the latches to the d n a damages it and so we have a good explanation why it's producing this high incidence of cancer we also  mechanism for producing damage to the brain as well and there's been numerous human cases of cancer it seems connected to the aspartame particularly brain cancers and we've seen an increase in the number of brain has been approved particularly in young people so they have this demonstrates again this revolving door mentality if they approach people that are in their in positions to get products  approved that are dangerous they use their money and influence the promise of jobs to get it approved and then that person leaves and goes to work for the company so the public is being deceived thinking that modern regulatory agencies are protecting them they're not they're protecting the people that they're supposed to regulate