welcome to another shallow life to point out that they were really have a special gas that is ready living their life to point out we've had some people that you know because of life changes situations that happened to them they you know found their second act that so many that i've consciously made a decision that i walking away i'm leaving what i'm currently doing to find their second act in life and that's kind of what we're all about the like to point out community we really life that you know you start to say is this all there is to life and you know what is it that i really want so that's what we're trying to focus on in the show is to bring guests who are really living their dream and we're calling it the second act just introduce yourself a little bit more to the guests and you know give them a little bit of background and how you got to this point ok well my name is joy as you said and i care and we opened catherine's cottage care located in english town but be prior to that i worked for fox news channel for twenty two years and before that i worked at essence and a very various other media ok type of outlets and so in looking are reviewing all of that i was thinking away like you said what else is there must be more i mean television in the beginning like most careers you know it's very exciting right right  d very alluring as a young person learning out in barking on the world as you begin to change and you have family in this may and you know you you realize there must be more or or it might be something else that you know maybe you're interested and so i was looking and i mean i come from my whole background as a family of educators and really that's where my passion lies and so when i first started out i was actually going communication hunts and bang and i actually got my master's in urban education and policy ok so then looking forward i was thinking why what would i actually do like what  coming to fruition for many years and so she white as she passed away she passed away i had a meeting at the township to get a variance for the school right now i was like wow because her funeral  going to be the next day like i don't like you well yeah it was her present right was her you know turning the checks you nose into yes and so i think that was really inspiring inspiration oh and also she just her personality her warmth her you know is what i wanted the school to be like what i wanted to feel like an extension of your home right and like when you go to grandma's house and you come in and she's making apple pie no so basically katherine the name of the school kid from your am i guess i mean yes right ok awesome but how did you so how did you decide ok you know i do to because of your teaching background and then you're groundless so that sort of came together because i do feel that it's such maybe just for me thanks so overwhelming it's like a big task did you ever feel that it was such a huge undertaking or was it just like a i think it's kind of evolution and it takes on a life of its own and so when you go in and you're making a play and after playing after plan after plan in the step has been more rewarding than the last right and it you know in terms of dollars and since it's very challenging however it's very rewarding right so i wouldn't change it you know in my well probably like most people wish i had a little bit more money but that's right it's not the case so you begad me that you have but i think because which are you saying because i often try to describe that with with me because you know when i was downsized and said i'm kind of walking away no clue what i was walking away to but i just found along the journey that when i took a step and i said ok i'm still standing yeah i could take the next but i would i would always say and i always kind of sobering that i talk about this what was so amazing to me is that when i was at certain points in my journey where i needed to to go to the next level but i didn't know how to get there or i always found people or things that we to my life to say ok this is where you take that help you get to that new aesthetic and that would to me was like an amazing thing that it would be like yeah we're ready to say listen this day and i'll write it that's just like what i was talking about the variance like that a hella experience so i thought like wow it might not and then you get the encouragement like i you know it all if you needed seven there were seven people on the board you needed five  did this performer which was a bunch of garbage right there and greg was living and so he you know he was definitely a blessing when i met the director who's working with me now actually came in and i mean i remember her she had my which is really important for people who are thinking ok what is it that i want to do or how do i get there she tapped into someone who already did it you had a mentor guess that kind of directed you when gabe and a lot of times i think we  i made a business plan and i did projections and i had all the bad but you know i had enough money see this it oh i'm going to use this i put an extension i was in my house and i thought like ok this is it and then when you go through the process of getting the variance because when i bought the house it's said to use purposes ok and i said everything on the list except for daycare oh no no no sit everything that you could do everything on the list but what it doesn't say is that you can live there work there is either or also you know that you know i had go to the township to get a variance because you had to get a variance so that you could live and work there and that's a good tip for anybody to get thinking about that's a huge loophole right right right oh i thought when i saw that you smoke to use that i could automatically read i don't row right right and so that process alone the but that's another sign you know you just added nowhere see that's right all showed up right away i think i have opportunity for you it was right when i was ready to say ok this is this is not going to argue yeah but at the same time she program and so this is the brochure which is so cute that there is a condom is going up and showing you know a little bit about the program and we'll switch to what the space and you can some of the things that you guys have here is very cool because of the technology you're needing advantage of technology here so we'll just take a look at some of the class you know on that screen right there we have a smart bo smart board so tell us a little bit about the smart board so the smart board basically is that interactive piece or screen that you can come in so they may have stories about it aunt and then it reads it for you it tells you about phonics so kids interact and they can actually use like a multiple choice as a touch screen ok so they can come up to the boy actually touch it interact they can join or and so it has a levin i think a live in hundred different activities for the kids so and then add also advances and then it helps the teacher because there is a teacher a lesson plan to go along with it it gives you reports to so that i could talk to the pair ok and say and they also would tell the teacher where they could do as a parent yeah like that didn't exist when my kids were little you know not how many and it definitely didn't exist for us yeah because the kids it's kind of like when you want to it's you want to have the kids tell you or if they aspire like they're talking about about a butterfly and then you might find something that speaks about the what if i do the lesson so it's it's interactive between teacher and the child when the child also participates in his own learning right of course it's directed right yes i mean it's me yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's one you tell us a little bit just give us a quick overview of your summer programming on the summer program was all about when we just use the correct terminology so when we do my little brochure here so and so so wrapped up any words of wisdom in taking the way you know people who are somebodies in the job at the current moment and you know like your situation you chose to resign yes so what were some of those things that you need to have in place before you actually make that i would say well i try to follow good tradition you know suggestions which were you know do a business plan because and what i found out is that i actually wanted to have someone write the business plan for me but i actually ended up writing it for myself which i think for most business owners is better because you get more out of it yeah you're writing your vision correct so you can your it out and you know each step of the way what to do how to do it and so i would say the guy when you get like that i think it's right because some of it you may not even think i have to think about that yeah yes you know was that was very good and very helpful i would say  definitely follow your passion in your dreams you know my gives it's work that at the end of the day to you know not to just work a job but to work something that you love doing yeah yeah yeah especially in your second and yeah yeah i did i'm not you community dot com that will help you and guide you in creating your second absolutely thank you