so for over three hundred years they had been talking about newman power it was such a common saying it was i gave man goo i don't mean by a man thirty degrees power that was a bad his every lie and if the apostles knew that and they absolutely knew that why would they tell people to go around dip in people in water when when the true baptism was alive you and put you through the fire in the trials of live don't they they're all one in the same blood five holy spirit that's all the same holy spirit is the same word is holy ghost why the rotters translated holy ghost in the holy spirit i don't really know i've read some ideas on it i'm not going to that right now so look bad his entire baptism holy spirit baptism holy ghost that's all the same thing now what is this bad days if it is the sprinkling of the ark come in it isn't it now i want to get into this i got to show you some things only it's because it's very interesting let me give you something first here's one of my favorite books in fact everything i'm teaching all right now this is robert becker girdlestone his book on synonyms of the old testament let me read to you what he said you've heard me say this but let me read it out of his book this is a great book because he's got you've got a section here on justification grace mercy and love and of course god is merciful to us that are he is the leg when he sprinkles our hearts and makes us one of the israel this prank of the ark to come was only for israel only in israel we are spiritual israel spiritual views of the heart were circumcised of the heart and were god spiritual temple acceptance and then right after that you have a section baptism let me read to you what mr robert baker girdlestone says about bad design that's very very interesting because he lays it  now the english translators did not translate the word bad tides and they acted wisely for there is no word and the english language now he isn't one of the foremost greek scholars of the last several hundred years last five hundred years if you look at the greek word in the back here you know take every time it's mentioned page and so he's for most scholars agree well there is no one word in english language which is an exact count of parts of the greek word that did that were bad though as the new testament uses it no english word in our language could translate from the great containing the precise ideas of the evangelists naser less nor more the difficulty or rather the excellent c of the word says to do it others say that he made to dip so he's got off just a little bit here but it has the idea of saturating so as to color that perhaps he didn't look up the part of speech because i've looked at it and i've he says not being a verb implying motion those are exactly exact words he says when  when followed by the end biggest particle in and that's the word that's the word that used they actually translated i and will that's not good word he says when it not being a verb and prime motion he says it everything right know he got the part about being dual meanings because mr strong says the same thing and so to the greek scholars but you gotta look at what you're reading real close it doesn't mean to dip even though he says that there because originally like mr strong see as in his encyclopedias heyst when you when i recommend a book i don't recommend every single word you can find error in everybody's works if you look hard enough it doesn't mean you throw that book away the man's brilliant i got i'm getting some tremendous stuff from me i'm not and i'm not discounting him perhaps he just missed the part about dipping because mr strong see is that bad kid so is not a verb and prying motion if it's not a verb you wouldn't they did besides that if were baptized into his death he was buried in the side of a mountain like i said and mr strong again tells us under the war under the word tune he said to bury someone in the ground which is a disgrace in israel they buried people in the sides of caves in caves in the sides of mountains in tunes any self respecting jew would not be buried six feet under so when you see mr strong says under the word tomb he says if you're going to bury somebody six feet under he says that's alien to jewish thought jesus  in the tomb you can't dip people downward and show jesus being buried you have to get them sideways i could say you've got to stay them and i know mr strong say yes and you when you look up this word bab did so to tell you that originally it was an infinity which is a verbal noun now if you've taken english american english you're going to say to me yes been invented it can also infinity can also be a  that's true in english that's not true in greek how do you know well mr mount says that in his basics of biblical greek and besides that i called the head of the greek department out here david l ever a verb he said not in the group so i've got verification from m he didn't know that i was debunking his water baptism as a church of christ baptized in anguish to be always proceeds in infinity so they translated this way it's actually one where bits the word bad it's the not best i remembered word sometimes they will put the another word on there to depict what it is this means to be baptized it's one word in the group so therefore it is an infinity and when this word in his use wisit with it it only manes with are by according to mr strong with her mind and all according to mr amounts also when you when you put this word again and acts ten forty eight and peter's at the house of corne god's authority is a bony or is his word which is the truth which is the holy spirit now there's another reason why i used to be baptized with the holy spirit they were gentiles with me i'll get back to that in a m the word it gives one true idea of what the word stood for two and one is warning in this rendering and i would say an infinity of mainz the movement the movement is from an outer action had been taken on the subject the subject being us that the blood of christ did that was that ark of the covenant dipped in blood no the high priest came this is the truth but it is not the whole truth that anglo saxon new testament adds another idea by naming john the lay full tear the fuller now that would be closer a fuller is one who brushes he franklin that's our hearts now you say jim is there this much difference in scholars yes there is i keep telling you read slowly examine everything you read you can't believe one hundred percent of everything one man say but they'll get some parts of speech for you you want to have to learn to think for yourself you understand what i'm saying any time you're reading a book don't be so naive as to thank everything you read that i'm a clinic and strong is going to be right whenever they get it right  that's right sometimes i'll say you say who are you to say who are you to say whether they're right or wrong if you're going to be completely objective you can zero in a lot of times on what they're saying and see that some things they say are wrong because these were written by men these are not the inspired word of god but you when you read you have to learn to glean truth out of the book that you read everybody's been readers here for years i've been reading since i was a little kid and i had to look to years and years and years to learn i can't believe everything i read some people think he wrote a book must be right no you have to examine every thing you read after awhile come to ministries if you come here for a while you get to where you're examining things without even making any kind of effort don't you if you notice that you get where you just examine things that's not right run williams  that that's not true by and don't say that katie couric that's not right you have to learn to examine everything you hear in everything you see especially if you read something washing and that's more right that's more correct washing these can fade to add is cleansing by washing but neither do these accurately express the two ideas of the gre as you say jim is this that complex yes it is and i keep saying the reason they didn't get it right is when they translated the king james bible half the translators were roman catholic and half were calvinists they had a brawl in that translating room and they fought and tremendous compromise let me read a little bit this next since as the question under discussion concerns are right the performance of which has been hailed essential in all ages of christianity it certainly might have been supposed that this is one of the cases in which an examination of early versions would decide the matter but the search had led to no definite result the old latin version indeed rendered bad did so by tango which say they go into all kinds the syriac version has a very good word for dipping but never uses it for bad because i'm preparing a word that originally signifies to stan and he goes oh no don't do this i can't keep reading this i can read all day on  excellent book but like i say examine everything a man say is that i don't know why these guys will come up and say this was an infinity and it meant to it meant the movement was from an outer source that's what you would call middle voice in the great it's something that's being done on our passive voice that means it's something being done unto you so bad to them is the staining of us you say well what about all these prices what about let me show you one more time we have used this word every time you found the word baptized and it's connected with the word and every time you find it when you found the word in each time the word baptize is used it is impossible for to maine to dip into water the baptist don't want to use baptism of the holy chapter reads talking about dying daily and he says some people call style they say blood bad days or you can go into you can go into a clinic and strong into they ball you and look up blood without bad tism was reckoned among the cat to cubans or the instructions or the early church market to meaning regarded as a full substitute and was therefore styled blood bath ism and when i say that i don't make that up you can get it from several sources with style bloodbath tism the notion was derived from several passages of scripture matthew ten thirty not actually they've got it in blotting out the handwriting of rituals which is against us it was contrary to us to get out of the way to his cross after he was nailed to the cross we did a way with one contract started another he would take the contracting part and public until the original contracting parties are you ready are you to me and ready to invalidate the contract you have yes they would say they always had two witnesses in their courts of law you were witness to this original contract yes everyone is ready yes they take the that means every ritual that means to spawn from the ark of the covenant that means all the sacrifices that were offered davy but now all of those who were shadows and we are the very image the very image the real and we're the temple in the hearts the ark of the covenant and the laws are in and place your tables our hearts instead on tables of stone and we're priest and kings and there was priests and kings over here and everything that you find in the old test of that is us now and we were the house of god and that was obvious you can explain blood baptism a little paragraph that long i don't weigh them and that's all he's got in here and if you'll notice when they come up with the blood that does them these riders won't say stop i'm jim brown your bible teacher grace and truth man it's trees if you like a free copy of the tape that you've just seen or heard give us a call at one eight hundred six two five five four zero nine or you can call us here locally in the nashville hendersonville area six one five eight two four eight five zero two and 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