amazing and i just have to bring on the show because i love to bring not just entrepreneurs but also philanthropist and you are truly a philanthropist from your heart i mean i see you actually i saw you first on linked in to sing with things that you're doing community for  students that live on one side of the city don't always go to another sort of morehouse happens to be on the west side of the city and i was working on the side of the city so we just want to you know we started a mentoring program we just wanted to bring the boys to campus and after we did the debrief what the experience was like one young man it was like the only other place that he could think that was like morehouse was prison right now the place where three thousand black men could be at one time as i was like obligation and so i made the observation that boys and men of color need to see positive image of themselves and to have their stories told so therefore i have obligation to create it and that's what i did and started a blog and i think the beautiful thing about starting the and so we just continually have animated added new things each year black make a mess to be in our signature program but we're most known for right which is our mentoring program which travels to different cities across the country to educate spying on power boys cities and it's not just me it's one with a team of men and we descend upon a city to do the mentoring for that day and i'm really powerful have over two hundred fifty men from various states across the country who are truly empowered and ready to do the network and i just kind of sent out a e mail to say here here's where we're going and guys kind of just let me know we cities they can make it you know based off their schedule because all of them the guys are fathers their husbands the businessmen their politicians their lawyers their doctors so you know   just stories to tell so there's no each one can look different because of that it's about who's available for that particular institute and then they give them an opportunity to showcase their own story and their own business which is also empowering because i think was another great thing has happened over the course of launching these two in two thousand and thirteen over the course of these four years is that you know you have to it's two different communities and so to take place at a university you could take place at a school could take place at a church and nonprofit organization and so now is an opportunity for other men who have things that they're building to do their their concent their whatever they create their curriculum ok but you never know who's in the room so guys have been able to get contracts at different universities or get other opportunities by simply volunt they can go there but it's a beautiful thing to get a chance to do with them as well but just most most of our concentrated efforts are middle school high school ok so what are some of the activities and some of the curriculum that you do so we have a plethora falls in my way that's how it should look and that's not what it's about a song about the networking it's about the men who are participating and having all of their constant showcase to the boys and to those who are attending that i just observing  where that's part of our blog so the blog still exists we're in the process of redesigning so that we can relaunch the blog and so that's the going to be a historic piece is to just allowing for us to continue to tell those narratives and those of boys or men of color across the country from the guy who is the sanitation worker and is just a father and a husband to you know you're c e o everybody story is as important as the next person's story because what the stories ultimately do is that because everybody has a it's not too often so i don't this is really really want to absolutely that that's a sum of some of the other areas we're looking to get into some of the work that we're doing as we continue to evolve and and grow and i think what you just mentioned is very true and i think as i've restore because i think i mean they have a canny ability to create those communities right to come together and he and listen to each other support each other so that they can heal and restore and foster accountability and we need those same type of communities so that we can be better men for our communities for our for our families and for society as a whole thing right for the first time more for yourself are absolutely right because you want to be as strong as possible clear and i know just like they say all men don't cry back when the days when i was young is our goal is the black man can manifest destiny so our goal is to get to the west coast and really impact as many communities as possible even back over five thousand young men since we have launched the black making institute we generate about over a million impressions a week between our blog and social media and so our goal is to continue to do that we for two thousand and eighty one of our goals is to impact five thousand young men and that one calendar year where  october we're going to launch our fund raising campaign to get our goal to get five thousand people to get twenty five dollars so if we get that that's how much it costs for young men to participate in our program for your five thousand people to give twenty five dollars we will literally work around so many positive black brothers right here in new jersey you know from trenton to newark it's just so beautiful when i see that and not like there's something wow it shouldn't happen but you know you don't always hear that because of the television right you hear all the negative things about us being in jail and us robbing and all these other things and you don't hear this as much you know and you know that publicize like how you know we will do it amongst ourselves so this is why i love to do this to bring on brothers that are really impacting not doing it the show but doing it from here absolutely no so that's what i saw you know just from you know seeing you on linked but then also when we had a conversation i was like blown away and i was already excited like country across the country so i'm excited really excited what you doing so you have any upcoming events or anything we have are the black make a message to our next two will be in boston massachusetts on october thirteenth we're working so we'll be launching our man cave the hope is to launch in this year once we have those new dates and then other than that we are going to be launching the fund raising campaign and everything else is kind of really focusing on two thousand and eight something to do with the different events we do a face is that you are has been your wife your mother your father and you have your dreams and your passions and then while they are so they are mutually exclusive they are also not the overlap and you have to show your  area and then that they are in my eyes the challenge and so i think that we look at pictures on social media and we look at people's instagram is in we watch award shows and we think that everybody has it all together and  it's not to say that it isn't right but it's more so we need to create spaces for people with a shared the strategies the best practices on how they make it work because some people really have no idea and that's what causes relationships to falter and marriages to falter and we have coming up is we're going to do a really big shoot to come for the blog content so what we want to do with our blog is we want to transition it to about eighty percent video media and so with that we're going to do a really big shoot in by and different been put in place from systemic institutional racism that puts me in a position to not be able to attain certain things or i would make it harder for me to have team certain things i'm also still male and so there's things that there's privilege that comes with that just being a male regardless of race because patriarchy is very real and so what we don't do as black man though is we don't always take the time to use our privilege to hear the voices of women and girls to support women and girls to salute women and we're doing in their profile families are really showcase how power mazing and how awesome we are and the things that are happening communities across the country at our house all right and i just think it's beautiful that it's it's just well rounded you making it's not just about me because i you know i used to see a lot of woman and girl stuff and i think you know there's not a lot but now it's popping up a lot of men stuff but then i also because i do workshops  together so i think their ideas are special children seated by god inside of us and he gives us the tools to birth these ideas into the world and so i'm happy that he gave me the idea of the black man can write it and use it i'll be the af so you just give me the tools so that i can grow it into what it is now and some appreciative of the different honors the accolades that i've received i think it's always an honor to be hon ored yeah and i like all of it as a continued reminder to continue to do the work that every day i wake up not to be auditors to be interviewed or whatever maybe you wake up to do the work that's needed in our community the list educating speier celebrate our people our black men and boys and so i really just i'm thankful for it and these different things that you know for a young boy who's from two to nine greenfields story you know grew up in a single and all the different you know statistics that you know may say i'm not supposed to be exact i'm appreciative of it but again i say just to continue reminding to just continue to do the work to continue to build community to continue to bring us all together so that they we can showcase how amazing we truly are as a people as a culture and society and i was going to say it's really hard because you might think about something like you were saying that she saw that there was a need and it is that need i need to do something about it and i'm sure a lot of us think that we're missing this we need that but what is it you know that just said i got to make a difference because everybody else wants to do something they don't  like how can you inspire someone that has that thought if they see a need whatever it might be you know what what would you recommend i just i just say you just got to do it i think one just do it when i say that i mean don't think about maybe i guess like an end goal or like you're supposed to look a certain way and one time to the time when you're thinking about it looking a certain ways because you are thinking of what people are going to say about as opposed to like you know what supposed to look now then i probably would've never started but he started there he do it like so we're on essential like our fifth website in terms of just growing first is just websites continue to be update in terms of looks and  feel but yes what it looks like now is completely different than what it looked like in two thousand and ten and i think that that's just the perfect seem like you just got to start like i got an idea right and just started and then once you started that's when everything else is going to start to click like this the work out to well i didn't like this i don't like how this looks i got a little bit of feedback on this in terms of user experience or whatever it whatever it is that you want to do is you really just kind of kind of take that leap i think there's there's calculate at least that you can take as well as it doesn't have to necessarily be like falling flat on your face i believe but just delete that just says ok i'm going to put this out there into the world into the atmosphere and see what kind of feedback i get in then once you do that you have to remain consistent right so i think that you can just do something in them because you don't see the right traction you know you can't stop so like you mentioned the bt and so that was last year and i lost a black man can two thousand and ten wasn't i didn't get some sort of recognition or we see didn't know who i was three years ago let alone six years and sue and so some some may say well i want they want that before and i'm like if you're starting with that in mind then it's going to be really hard to get to where you want to get to be funny it's not necessarily something that started from the heart you're looking for right like i said i can't do it for that you have to do it because this is the work that's needs to be done i'm working on a book and one of the chapters in the book is don't let social media rush you and so i think that one of the biggest aspects i have is that you just see you see people think again it was just consistency it's finding the right type of content that people want to see and then be consistent with posting it and then people just kind of caught on time with that but that we also didn't start it i would still be put everything that i post now i would in and what i think is that people shouldn't worry about i don't lot of people might want to do a huge impact but i think the impact on one person you know whether it's once a week or once a month that's still awesome you know not everybody can fact that's what you have to have a way with people you have to have the need of what people want and if you can just have one person again one week or whatever to me that's awesome you know it's just a blessing that you can impact more but you know you take