welcome to moral politics on your host bill ford what could be worse than football on steroids troy california resolution thirty five that resolution equates opposition is really polic jewish hatred it bars comparison of jews to nazis or alleging that jews ever exaggerate the whole accost resolution thirty five further clear is false that israel is a racist state or that american jews exert excess power in august two thousand and twelve zionist resolution thirty five sneakily came into existence in california it brushes aside the and never say any award that the them up like to hear about the state of israel do you feel that resolution thirty five might be a result of losing the debate morally and patriotically and that there has to be some other way to control the discourse lamest actually you would never believe enough to come on the have a public debate anyway because they don't have a case what there is on to to resort to is backstage maneuvering tactics of skating people away from talking about the issues in public and this resolution is another step and the resolution thirty five is actually labeled relative to anti semitism is the words that go with the resolution and it has some striking content to say the least certainly it references israel fourteen times and it tries to define antisemitism is it necessary that it eighty members of the california assembly which is very much similar to that at issue with that is an illusion is about is there in passing by in the u s congress itself would you agree that it's an aggressive crackdown and it's using an states a very quickly passed without much public debate passed despite some strong opposition from was whisked through at the end of term on student break the procedures used by some experience legislature  and this is not the first instance of that but it is exploited and they have to make be able to see and that will something is that any and not that i can't describe israel as an apartheid state if you are on a california campus you can't advocate for boycott divestment sanctions if you are on a california university campus you can apply a double standard to israel that you would apply to other countries of course i find that a little vague myself  can't deny the jewish people their right of self determination which doesn't really address the expense that's paid who pays the expense of that self determination which veiled but not spoken are the palestinian people who've lost their land in their resources and their freedom it also purse crimes disrupting pro israel present a point of view on campuses again illegal for you to think about one particular subject or talk about it or take any action about it so when you actually build it in the minds of the students that they are not supposed to talk about that troublesome to me that it uses a lot of anecdotal hearsay you know we we mention this watch the quds dorm rooms hello houses we're hearing about students feeling uncomfortable it's an uncomfortable oppressive environment to have opposition to israel where we're seeing convenient definitions of any semitism being lifted from the european union obviously use of the language to assume that the state of israel is that it isn't the of the entire jewish people which in and by itself actually is kind of and is semitic because to assume that israel  resolution thirty five has some trouble with established fact and history you know israel has already been to corner and apartheid nation and we're getting that certainly from the un and from a lot  can they dare to butt heads with established fact the history of rule right we group they drafted this legislation and they knew that it was going to run up against the first amendment they probably could have surmised it would been some backlash maybe they thought they were powerful enough to pull it off what do you think was going on in their escaped religious persecution and what we say about jewish power and over the resolution thirty five declares it falls american jews wield excess power the best thing to do is to look at the fact that often when there is dissent expressed in the united states against policies of the israeli government people here are called anti semitic what is your response to that as an israeli  can come up actually with so many scenarios that will be kind of funny if it was not sadly this is been an interesting discussion but we've got to tell our viewers what it really means with the can do i mean we've been watching how does it really affect the average viewer this happened in california and after all it is a resolution it's not long well but again the remember that it's a design to create an atmosphere i watching us now i would just ask them this imagine either yourself or your child as a student going to come by us as a student in california and then imagine that somebody is telling them when  scheme that we agreed this resolution thirty five is really being used animate the jewish community to come together stronger give more money to get more more laws and regulations pas community this is rather kind of historic resolution in the sense that it doesn't acknowledge that israel has approximately thirty apartheid or discriminatory laws and that the whole african american isn't that kind of ridiculous and don't we have a similar expression of ridiculousness and this age or thirty three resolution thirty five and in support of any so much as  look at look at this comparison here see how much american politicians talk about china as a violation of human rights and how little if any of they ever they ever actually that never happens  they took a boat there is that any violations of human life it's look at this and look at this and you can tell who is winning and getting back to that it's really that they're not winning at least the debate morally and patriotically and i think pro israel zionists and i have to resort to these trickery scams and try to make a big hit on the battleground campus which is so important because a silent student become a silent adult and nobody will act on what would have been discussed to make the changes that we need to make dr room so do you want to thank you again for a very lively and important discussion of california resolution thirty five