leno welcome to a very very exciting special segment of truth today i'm gloria your host and i want to thank you for a walk and welcoming me into your home and my guest and hopefully you had the chance to see last week's show which is part one where part two now that's pretty that's pretty exciting too to be on a t v show that's so good you had to like do a part t and i got to say it's to the credit of my guest my guest is a very powerful man of god who spends his life helping others and spends his life sherry god's beauty and grace and are educating people on god's beauty and his brazenness mercy and it's true and you're going to hope you get a pin and a paper and because you're going to learn a lot you're going to hear things that you will really use for the rest of this life and you know i'm not i'm not just talking this really is a powerful me and to capture every word is like our gift today so welcome welcome welcome  kind of well and yeah i'm glad to be here i i was i was born chicago by the way and raised here right here in berkeley and and i'm really excited to be here thank you think you  people some contact information be ok we get going all right my website is break free minutes is that or my e mail is at break free ministries dot org and you can reach me on my i have  a home base is at eleven fifty nine sonora court in sunnyvale california and my phone number six five zero two four eight nine zero five eight six five zero two four eight nine zero five  eight to hear from you and i want to say if you're struggling with any kind of addictions any kind alcoholism drug addiction faulty think and you know those number that number and that information is going to be valuable to you and and i can guarantee you that my guest has a long professional history has a long personal story that is is really being used to set people free and and so i were both we met in our recovery process season are on our road of recovery and if it didn't work we wouldn't be sitting here if it didn't work if it was a word that we would be sitting here right so i can assure you that you're going to hear a lot to help you today you're going to hear a lot that that even if it's not you the satish sticks with addiction are are staggering they're creating substances for you to get hooked on right now that aren't even going to be on the streets for another ten years that's how powerful this process of of addiction is so recovery really is alternately going to be the only way a life worth living and so  my guess has a long background a long history and not just being a person in recovery but helping other people recover so that's all i'm a say cuz i got a powerful man on the set  be real about where we are in because of or not we can't really be exposed to his grace and truth and this is grace and it's true that changes us that's what changes our lives and and of course the enemy of our soul in our the one i think the last week was mentioned and i guess i mention again our disease of addiction is an expert defense lawyer when it comes to making a case for nonsense actually being good sense is is something that happens when we're trying to find life and something that can give me why let me just say again really the bottom line about addiction or anybody said insane is that somehow someway we believe the lie that we can find life only god can feel and so it's important for us to understand that there is a way but the way we often go is not the way the guy would have us the world is telling us that we need this and you got to do that it's i nteresting because the last year or so the way i've been counseling couples is helping them get the focus off of the behavior you know into their needs because what i realize is that whenever we see certain behaviors are what's behind those behaviors are certain needs for instance if if if i have a new york hymie for privacy and i see you works when i think of racial and and jacob and i would try to have a child and she couldn't get pregnant and she sent him on to some of the handmade and they got traded and then finally she even tried to get this plan is that she took the plant because the plant was supposed to have some aphrodisiac properties in and was it was supposed to make you more fertile and so she she took the plant and called mandrakes and she took  was thinking about the many people that i counsel now a couple things that i put in place immediately first of all i my number one goal is to be the safest place on earth the safest place on earth is a place where god's grace is there that's where where where there's no judgement no condemnation there's just acceptance because people need a safe place where they can hear it is tell the we don't feel comfortable enough to tell you the scenes that's right well you know not only do we need to tell the truth to god but we need to be able to tell the truth to somebody oh yeah and we're not going to tell it to the nobody else unless it's a yeah and so  and part of the transformation recovery process is being able to tell the truth that we had a recovery treat last a couple weeks ago and one of the games we played was that it was about twenty of us and we all got in a circle with our chairs and one person stood up in the middle and they stood in the middle and and they were they told the truth about themselves and everybody can relate to that truth  there sure and it's so interesting the next morning you know people just think oh my god there are some powerful because they mess with me you know because i came in lady and i said got a table with a recession and when i conference conformity where the internal transformation so i went from looking all crazy on the outside and also being dead and needy and hopeless and on the inside to being  full looking at color and healthy acting on the outside to being and alive in christ but still living there still very extremely needy and i feel like it's ok to be still feeling the sense of hopelessness  and indicted and and under responsible and exposed and defensive to go over to being for looking and for full acting but still all messed up on the inside and now still and you know i call it i've run on this oh will power i feel my gasoline up will power the car the will power car and i'd be doing fine for the lord and doing all this stuff but when i run out and just minister to them while they're getting high and sometimes i get high and i convince myself they got here to allow me to do this because i'm special to him i'm missing this because i want that's right the audience to understand how that  mportant it's imperative for me to create an environment that's their safe and unconditionally accepting an environment they're safe and unconditionally excepting where grace is in place so you know will grace normal no more diabetes medicine i said he's no longer a diabetic oh did i miss him when he showed up last year that he weighed two hundred eighty two pounds and i weighs two hundred twenty two third book but he was dying literally that he couldn't stand him self you know and so i got testimony after testimony as a young lady  mom and stepdad and sister and then her and then some family counseling and then there was a little break and then i started this ministry and and finally what i called she hit that number you know the same year that number forty that you know the wilderness experience you know with people god that your own vision was in the world for years and they went she hit right there to forty and she began to get busy and do some work and she ended up asking a gracious become so that others can become and that's a story for some you some of you list and right now yeah who are right in the midst of this struggle that's why you've been feeling some kind of way you've been tired because you have not been able to receive god's grace and his living in the city of self pity population one or whether you're in a place of self righteousness and the message that you're looking for a message at a farm and you're doing the positive behavior versus the navy the positive behaviors the behavior that that we do that is acceptable to god  society and some of our values a negative of course is going against god's values your own even your own values but it's still based on your performance and you can only do it for so long it's still all about the external you know the fi that i'm missing out on yeah yeah you don't want to give out what you're missing that you don't want to miss out on what you're given out because they want to solve said and done it's really about what's going on from the inside you are and so for me i had to go it was what god has done and is doing for us and the easiest for me for being engaged in the recovery process knowing that god is in control this is for standing up speaking to god's plan for  all the time i know all thousands of people in the cemetery right now that were bred born or raised in the church and that served diligently and were broken hearted is any human being could possibly be stayed in that condition until they last dear yes close their eyes in a level of pain and agony said no human being should experience a level of healing myself that i could honor what pure joy and pure happiness is i went oh yes i was floored by that people are watched all my live and die angry hurt broken hearted come use tormented yes yes there's so many people i call them who are living today who have gone on their way there are what i call your resentments are you dealing with them back with by way of retaliation or forgiveness yes when we go understand who we are and who we are and when we don't learn to be ok in our own skin realizing that there's a god who's not surprise about where we're standing i say he's not a surprise about where you're at and all he wants you to do is acknowledge where you're at so he can come and get you and take you where you need to be he has he's a guy who's able to give us now the freedom to succeed but he gives us the freedom to fail and here's what we can give other people the freedom to fail along with the freedoms they see unt we realize that we have that same freedom that's why oftentimes when we we do things to our kids and to our relatives and even our mates because we won't give them the grace they need to be able to to to to make their accident that my ministers call break free minutes yet and i'm telling you i'm seeing men and women couples i had a couple call last night who were bickering because she's going to want to go to being go and he and he doesn't want to go  and he thinks he has addiction and i've met with him already i think we'll know some parameters and we'll know with addiction but let's don't call addiction here let's just call it her recreational outlet and if it is are out there and that's all this is recreational man i want you to just try to get out of bed box just try to be gracious and be open and we talked about open our mind and be open and i don't mind in the openness is the evidence of true genuine brokenness as it just comes from a place of just wanting to be there i said asked her did she want to be there you want to be there she said yes i've always wanted to come ok i said so just go and see what happens you might be surprised it's been a long time you might like it just because you want your wife and the good news is when you're ready to go she replied believing in which you even she want to go just because you are ready to go and the effort you put in to meet honey has already happened already happened with the been working with for two years and she sent so many people to me she says i'm going to have to i'm wondering if i should ask for messages that shame we know that but they're not even messages that are from the messages are is that we're loved in the accepted in forgiven by god no matter what and what happens to our behavior is that it doesn't go negative nor positive it just begins to be consistent with the reality that we're loved in such a way we we