welcome to new beginnings with karen delk and i am so pleased to have with me bill maker extraordinary sam and russell he is an avid skier and sailor and we're going t absolutely you know so the way that this came about was just a couple of weeks ago you were talking about you were going to share how to sail with a group called men in retirement well y and that was to be the last friday you had a giant snowstorm right so that got postponed a little bit but the whole idea of it was just to talk about the experience of sailing  maybe some of the technical mechanics of it but but mostly the joy of it because it is it's a wonderful wonderful edge of occasion in life yeah i have to share that i come from michigan which is right in the middle of the great lakes oh so there are boating and sailing not similar to what you're talking about because you're ocean sailing but they grow like enough i've done some filming of great legs when i heard what you were planning i thought i got to get you on the show about sailing and you know what it is that you do so can you kind of take us through you know what are the basic components of c ailing and how does that work how did you kind of get interested in getting started well i say i've been sailing all my life my dad had a boat and wanted both my brother and i do be interested in sailing and we had small boats and he also had a large boat thirty five foot boat so i was young and just got to know how small boat sailing and big boat sailing think it all started with the princeton ski and sail club and they do a lot of charter sailing in various places particularly in chesapeake bay and maybe that's a good starting place to talk about what what sailing is like with the with the club and i think almost every year they have a long weekend morial day weekend and then columbus i'm one of their skippers or captains or if we usually just call a skipper's and i did some filming on one trip just to show really what sailing was like and that's pretty much oh you set a sail on a particular tack with the wind one of the things you need to know of course if you want to go up towards where the wind is coming from you can't just head the boat straight up into the wind because this is going to blow your back so you have to go side to side we call attacking and here in the this next little clip see how we come o that's pretty much the mechanics of it yeah that's interesting yeah yeah so those trips we call them local i mean it was something drive down to for a weekend and they're really available to all people even people that have not had any experience sailing there's always an experience skipper on the boat and then also a galley associate who does all the food planning those were sleeping on board three nights and really it's not out in the ocean right so it's a wonderful place for sailing yeah annapolis is of course very famous for that yeah the naval academy out of me is right there you know so are you you're do you go other expound what do we do beside sailing on a trip where we had a trip to california that's the desert peninsula that goes south it's a part of mexico but it's sort of a continuation of the california coast very playful but here we are over now getting ready  up already to go down clips are very good yeah now do you go there often no it was just a trip we went to once i had planned a trip later and of the of the charter  operations we have done a lot of operations through moorings as they have charter operations all over the world so that you can travel in and if you're experience sailors you can do what is called a dry shark charter which means you captain the boat and sail around so our experience has been to fly it has some place and take up a charter boat and then go sailing around and seeing seeing wherever you are there i didn't want to make a travelogue out of bed but you know our little bit about our sailing experience but before we go sailing we always get together all of the skipper has and this particular trip we had ten boats harbor natural harbor and we went in there and one of the other interesting things about it is that no motor vehicles are allowed there one as a matter of fact they only  have i think maybe two garbage trucks come in on a ferry and and cart everything away and go back onto the ferry there are no gas stations or anything all transport is on foot or by donkey oh yes sounds like as well preserved in terms of the historic you know he was a it's a different different kind of life there everything is i mean communal living is so much more real than it is here eat and just socialize and so very very warm warm hearted country and i would say yeah and yeah so you have a special trip that i know you were going to share with us and we talked a little bit of yeah we talked a little bit about that and that was to be he yes it was and how did that come about well  ten boats total of seventy five people wow on the trip and we flew to los angeles stayed overnight in los angeles and then  islands and just spend some time to spend a full day while we were there and some of our crew members and myself and my wife went to from there to bora bora did number of things on the bora bora and including doing a hike which i don't have films of right here but we had a trip  from bora bora we have no footage from there i have no films from there to the easternmost island who heaney because we had some pretty rough sailing weather i once  ot out the right around near the islands they are atolls so you have a central island which has a mountain which is basically an island mountain and that over here on says sunken down  coral around the edge continued to grow up so that you have the mountainous portion in the center and then you have a lagoon all the way around and it's protected by a coral leaf all around and  place to go yes but when you get from island island you're out of the civic was a big ocean and the trip that we took from right tell you after we went to bora bora we went back to ri had to go straight up wind which meant we had to tack back and forth over a twenty mile distance and it was just an eight hour tough eight hours  of thing we do and it's something that's accessible and i mentioned the princeton ski and sail club of it doing this for years but people can go and do charters of boats they can have captain charters you know for the boat comes with a captain on board right as they don't need experience so they can go down to the caribbean for example and have a captain charter and go on one of these trips and it's it's a wonder if it's a different way to see the world you're coming in from the sea one of the nice things particularly in greece were you will come into a town and there is a town w f and then the main drag remains and then on the other side of the main street is all the shops and to vernon's and bakeries and everything so you come in and you anchor put your anchor done first in the new go sturgeon so that your bow is pointed outward toward the sea and you bring your stern in so that you can just hop right off on to the town pier so you're right in the middle of things yeah but it's your own home right there and it's kind of a wonderful way to see the world absolutely absolutely i am so appreciative to hear this because i like i said i grew up in the great lakes and then i moved to minnesota which had little mini lakes and for me i associate water with calm peace and tranquility so i i like to be around water it could be an ocean it could be a lake it could be a river but it needs to be something that i appreciate and i know you have a philosophy about well you know it's a it's a way of looking at life i mean if if business but there's one thing about sailing if you say you have to go to some point to windward and you have to get there you have particularly in racing  making that making that goal out there is fraught with difficulty and because it may not be tranquil and you may have heavy wins or you may have no wins but let's say you have  wins that you have to you have to deal with whatever you're given and the tide and currents are shifting and there are all kinds of things i mean you have your crew that you have to keep together and  keep the boat sailing and you have to be safe and there are really just a thousand things to think about and it's and so if you think about getting to that goal it takes a lot of putting it together and if you think of it as a sailing experience or if you have an experience of sailing it makes a lot of sense having to deal with the the variety of things that are thrown to you in life  you know many different ways yeah yeah well sam it has been my pleasure to have you share these beautiful clips of your numerous trips and to learn about sailing i thank you so much we