we have to really go away if we make banning conversion therapy for adults there are silver linings to both these stories and they're a little more complex but we'll talk about that also talk about the death of the last democratic presidential debate and pe that was a good decision but we can discuss that someone asked me what i thought of and i said i can't do you know me all right well we do know the alliance defending freedom we talk about them on an almost weekly basis big l g b t legal group with a very busy and they will take any opportunity shamelessly to come after us everywhere and i thought about this i mean one of the reasons they're so aggressive yeah is that they're losing the culture war and they know it and they're trying to you know it's sort of a rear guard action to try to claw back some stuff but the culture just keeps you know living them and they're losing and they they own the senate and they own the horrors that are happening in the country at the moment and may continue in the country for a while so i wouldn't be so sure that they are completely losing every no no no no no no i'm talking about the cultur have moved on you can say that but meanwhile so long as they're going to hell and when we can when we when we talk about cases like this the arizona case is the case of somebody who didn't scriptures for weddings and potations they brush and thing there are no plaintiffs in this case there are no there is no case there is no same sex couple that came to them for a wedding invitation it's call it sort of like the bush doctrine of preemptive strike but courts don't usually entertain things like way they essentially have won the future right if the gays and lesbians come along and want to get married not to create something for them on st amendment grounds so the court specifically said and it was a nondiscrimination law that covers sexual orientation and gender headings that this one company could refuse to make this one type of product for same sex couples another words if they come in and they just want to buy a box of cards that's been preprinted and you discriminate against the because they're gay that's not ok well this is the question we've seen raised for years now and we keep picking apart these questions of you know can a t shirt printing company refuse to print t shirts with a pro l g b t q slogan where do you draw the line for companies that are supposedly involved in some kind of expressive work do they you know take bankers they again you can be forced to bake a cake but can you be forced to write something in particular on a couple wants you know and i worry that almost anybody providing a service can say there's a level of creativity and yeah  yeah and were we you know we were kind they were i hate to wring company or i'm your waiter but i don't want to help you celebrate your gay anniversary and then were right back to lester maddox with the ax handles throwing black people out of his restaurant in georgia it's it is ludicrous religious crap it is the ludicrous a s o lot of racial discrimination was justified on religious grounds and readings of the bible supposedly but  this is just ludicrous that religion is allowed to intrude into the public commerce sphere and people can make these distinctions but what i meant about them being so active and people giving them a lot of money and doing all this and what's it going to take for us now we have active legal groups and things and they're all getting afraid of the courts because of the way they're stacked but i think it's probably going to jail i think it's probably going to take like absolutely losing abortion rights like r would force a way to change it but hey we're talking about the court system here that the conservatives are stacked again and are taking power and and that's very bad because they it's not subject to electoral also well ultimately but what because we can impeach them no because you can i mean and i'm serious i've said it i say this repeatedly it probably bores people but you know your ancestor wrote the judiciary act of the united states it sets the stamp sets the number of judges on all the courts and they amended constantly because we need more federal judges in the local district that district oh we got a new state we got to send some out there but it also means they can change the number on the supreme court and if people don't start seriously talking about this given how aggressive the republicans have been of we're not as equally aggressive then we're just giving up well exactly that this is this all requires some kind of power decades that the reason the alliance defending freedom and previous manifestations of the right wing like this are doing this so aggressively is to raise money it has a lot less to do with ideology than it has to do with staying in business and staying in power and that's why they went after abortion in the st place and when that started to lose for them they started coming after us because that was a way for them to use scare tactics to raise money just one of the television news networks are losing interest in us and our issues it was a story about that this week anyway so the idea is that in this arizona case the court supposedly wrote a very narrow opinion but as we know this is really a foot in the door for companies and individuals all over the country this all goes back to the hobby lobby case to to make these kinds of arguments and just throw the door open to doing what i want and turning this into what the opera said i'm not trying to be pollyanna but we saw this happen in the city where they have a horrible law that says you can do this yeah but what did what how did businesses react there they put stickers on their window best majority of places that's true i find that i like that whole silver lining well what about the city council new york city council what a year ago two years ago passed a law outlawing conversion therapy most places pass these laws and say no conversion therapy for minors in a commercial setting we have to protect children from conversion there are doctors who claim to be able to change people's sexual orientation or gender identity this doesn't mean your priest or rabbi can still try to kill you but if they're going to try professional counselors who are seeking reimbursement under medicaid and things of whatever they expansive law than most places have so our friends at the alliance defending freedom have come after this law in new york and said it's overbroad it violates counselors rights to free speech especially because it covers adults and pemmican sues at the new york city council we cannot withstand this lawsuit and what if they win the lawsuit and that ruins our point of view across the board so corey johnson the out gay speaker of the council said this was an agonizing decision but all game legal groups told me i should do this because we don't want to set a bad precedent on this now and there's the decision is we're going to repeal this law so it is not something that the a d f can hook into to ruin us across that contract they say new york state law covers this but it only covers it for minor kids yeah and the and the other thing they say is what happened in new jersey we can still use consumer protection laws and anti fraud laws in your own adult who's been hurt by this week it's consumer fraud and you somebody won this way and  could do that in new york so it's seemed like something they're would be controversial to repeal this law but in fact they have marshaled their ducks in a row and that was not the right for any and all q legal groups politicians everybody else is on board with the idea that repealing this law in new york city is the right thing to do and christine quinn was the speaker of the council out lesbian she passed a number of bills that bloomberg was going to go after legally and he vetoed them and they did not override his veto is because they were afraid of losing the legal cases and setting more bad precedence meanwhile the d c council's looking about banning the  against that ruling of the brush a near marriage invitation case were enormously eloquent about how horrible this decision was and how the company was not entitled to this kind of exemption from the  nondiscrimination law i don't imagine we'll be appealing this to the supreme court or federal court probably not but who knows it takes a while maybe we'll if we do it now by the time it gets to the supreme court we'll have a different look in supreme everybody down when they fight too much and then be very and be very you know smart he is smart guy but he also had as big a moment because when they asked you what's your biggest professional challenge he talked about coming out when he was already better of south and then he came out he was and he got reelected with eighty percent of the vote and he talked about how tough it had been for him to be closeted in the military in afghanistan so that when he came back and he was in office and he finally decided he didn't want to live that way so whatever happens with this candidacy at least forget and he's getting good he got a lot of applause for that good stuff and this friday for those of you who are seeing this in time is the big l g b t q presidential forum at co college in cedar rapids iowa and that will be sequential interviews with at least ten of the democratic candidates all the major ones except bernie sanders who has not agreed to participate in this but you can watch it online it is co sponsored by glad and why one iowa which is the statewide group there are a bunch of others and you can find it on you tube you can probably find it at the glad dot org web site and they get zapped dot com the local newspaper there is also going to be carrying out that's friday this friday the th at eight but i don't want to say there are other things these candidates do that are good but i'm tired of people like global char and biden and others and george stephanopoulos the moderator using republican talking points and telling bernie and more and you're going to throw one hundred and forty nine million people off health care insurance well they keep repeating it and it's it is just the i mean yes ads are made but i used people but i blame bernie in a lizabeth too for not adequately explaining that we are that medicare for all is going to improve people's pocketbooks and and health outcomes they try to talk about it you're right they don't do a good enough job on it they don't  they don't tell people you are already pain more than you should for this it is not that you will be taxed in some way that is going to explode your budget you will be paying less in the end and because the insurance companies will be cut out of it and why do you think they're doing you some big favor people love their doctors and nurses they don't love their insurance companies well they're defending their insurance companies and how are they more centrist candidates are and not explain you know my medicare now and i talk to a doctor so there are all these old people come in and he says  rally here downtown in new york and washington square twenty thousand people biggest of the campaign and i'm astounded that she stood there for four hours afterwards having people take pictures with her very smart marketing sixty thousand done that sense and of course all these pictures are going to dump on facebook and social media instagram and it's just free advertising you don't even need a social media team because all these people who stood in line and got these pictures are spreading them for you and joe monday september rd there will be an anti trump march here in new york in the evening preceding his speech the next day at the united nations general assembly which should be now the for that well this week in new york at least where is my roy own which of course is the trump quote and a lot of work on was his lawyer his mentor and mentor who taught him to be as mean as he is and to lie and and so it's it's made by matt turn our who all so made scotty in the secret history of hollywood that we've talked to about here in the valentino bio pic it's not the greatest movie condemning communism i mean it was he just lied about everything he really did teach trump how to act well one person that trump has a soft spot for john and he is very upset and he's never gotten funny guy but he's raised a lot of money for aids yes i was very disappointed in eric holder this week the former attorney general cautioning against prosecuting trump post presidency how yeah yeah europe ministration didn't go after bush who did this illegal war with cheney and rumsfeld and totally destroyed the middle east what's his argument against prosecuting it won't matter to you know who have to watch out for things like we do what it is it's people in power not wanting to be subject to peddle it is the self perpetuating hierarchy  is in blocks this guy tells on a minute by minute basis well if you're talking about treachery what those republicans did in north carolina this week wait until the nine hundred and eleven ceremonies and these other work to do any work that day and the democrats roll the the new york state controller napoli has asked forty one corporations to rethink their giving to right wing politicians and the reason that's important is because he holds a lot of now scott stringer the city comptroller comptroller was asked his office was asked about this and they said no no no we're not we're not doing that this the guy who gave that quote out has been demoted got a hold of it and said oh yes you are not going nominated for a state department post assistant secretary for democracy human rights and labor it's just how big it may get for human rights person recorded as murdered this year in the united states eighteen of them black trans women that i told you about the able sedan you know being sentenced to fourteen years in the classroom for i believe gay teen and everything but now there are three losses that are going to look at bullying in high school and it's going to put it all in the spotlight in iowa in the town of seuss center conservatives complaining have driven a probably brunch from a restaurant there although it's moving to a bigger version of the same restaurant in a nearby town lamar's the four brothers restaurant but these people just stood up and said we don't want this event held at this restaurant evidently businesses can be mean to us but if they're nice to us then the conservative populist gets upset in uganda we've got an out gay guy  o josh owen thirty four years old we have a picture of him who seeking the democratic nomination for governor he's never held office and there's never been a statewide gay candidate he's supporting issues such as marijuana legislation  rights and universal background checks for gun purchases the other declared demo in the race democrat in the race is former new york city health commissioner the town came out to protect a trans elementary school who has been threatened by the westboro baptist church we have a picture i think of the town's people showing up to look at that crowd to protect a crowd will make make their way down to the tatum independent school district in texas now they have a dress code at this public school that says male hair can extend below the top of your collar and a four year old boy very long all right the principal said four year old kid cut the hair braided or come in in a dress because if you were transgender it be ok and so now the people are saying wait a minute this is an out dated and they say racist has done an about face they st rejected the idea of a lesbian wedding being held on their grounds that they rent the place out for weddings but that was a bridge too far for them and people complained and then they said all well compromise you can at the party here but not the ceremony the way these people justify and rationalize themselves to this ridiculous spot people said no no no that's not good enough so then they finally fully apologized and invited the couple and other same sex couples to have their weddings there never mind that we want your money your money is more important to us than what we said were our principles some good news and l g b t history or james baldwin the author we have a picture of him back in eighty seven i think it was but his home at one hundred and thirty seven west some of the st street where you live from the mid sixty's to the late eighty's is now on the national register of historic places now he kind of the shoot labels he wrote about gay relationships talked about his homosexuality especially later in life but you know wasn't particularly didn't want to be a gay writer he lived there the last twenty two years of his life up until his death and had various family members living in the building too and briefly toni morrison as my ex was bill which would say hi in and can i mention the award being given to another a lot of very out gay writer edmund white yes age seventy nine is getting an honorary national book award medal for distinguished contribution it's going to be presented by john waters that will be fun white of course is the legendary author of a boy's  it's banned books week is to september nd to the th and the american life library association says top ten well the number one book that's banned is something called george by alex geno a train has a trance character dooryard gloom which you wrote about lincoln when lincoln was assassinated he cited as the father of american poetry and for in this in this when the giving of the stamp and they said for nursing thousands of sick and dying soldiers in the civil war  binary singular you usage of they and you know people get upset about this now and argue about it but for many many years when we didn't know someone's gender when we said they we referred to people as they all the time when they were singular people in orlando this last weekend the x gay the whole survivor is a couple of them and their friends therapy on her and how destructive that was she's in orlando city commissioner so she talked about that in a she was very funny and then got very serious about it yeah and we would like to include that in our e mail maybe we'll send it to you and send it on our e mail list your you go to our website you can automatically sign up for our weekly email and we give you web bonuses yes and we'll have a link to that video on that so now  oklahoma this is a twenty three year old guy who found a partner and yet he's part of this fundamentalist church st assemblies of god and the family sort of tricked him and the partner of the coming to the church wondered about that oh yes and then they because they said we want to go celebrate something or something and they grab them and they throw up on the floor and they're speaking in tongues speaking and i'm trying to get and the have said it well and preaching against homosexuality he went to the police oh yes and now he's getting all this pressure and family is pressuring don't pull back on this he said no there have to be consequences he said i'm of the pastors but this is not right well the pastors who are preaching against homosexuality and perhaps at the request of the family i have it haven't sorted out whether the family knew what they were dragging these guys into the church says there's more to the story i think it will be safer to go to a democratic donor all major guy in l a big democratic party connections but he gets mostly black gay men who are impoverished to come to his house for drugs and sex and he shoots them up with crystal meth really against their will for the most part or too much he's killed two of them and dance away with it by finally prosecuted her and congratulations to altoona pennsylvania which on october th which is national coming out day will be holding its st pride parade would tell them about the national trends march oh no we did just had their st trans march and they got about one thousand five hundred people we do have a picture of it to show you there were there were many of them online people had a great time yeah they want to be more in the future and i'm sure we'll be at a big rally in soho square but he is protected by law and he urged him to continue his worship ministry but he's a very courageous guy to come out of these circumstances well more horrors in edmonton canada which is more conservative place in the middle of the country the for some far right crazy creep is targeting the queerer flex l g b t q j m which close temporarily because he published the names of staff and using social media to post pictures of l g p d people they attack them they take pictures of them and then they spread out all over social media so that their families will see it now this is a country where ninety eight percent of the people barred the local pride group from meeting at the cultural center saying it is a sacred to building and gay people should not be allowed in it well bunty go gay pride there is contemplating legal action over that and yeah good luck with that protesters but basically everything went off just fine but it was back to stand in tashkent we're talking here about the murder of show clear shock aton we have a picture of twenty five years old brutally stabbed just days after coming out is a twenty on instagram a twenty eight year old suspect is in custody one freds one friend said the two men carried him away from a nightclub that has some gay people his parents had already been harassed by the seventeen men were at this location all being tortured all being said give us other names beaten with pipes because because the interrogators didn't want to touch them because homosexuality is disgusting yeah things had been dicey there over the years about their pride events but the cops were there to protect them and marching in the per raid were the out lesbian prime minister and a baron a beach and her partner and these two women have been together for many years they got married in the united states they came back to japan they wanted to have a child so one of the partners contracted with the sperm donor and became pregnant then she had an affair with the sperm donor and the other partner got upset about this they separated the non birth mother right  lesbian sued for infidelity meanwhile the sperm donor transitions and is now a trans woman still with a partner who was unfaithful but the wrong woman has gotten ten thousand bucks and the real important part of this story is that the court has recognized the relationship which is very unusual in japan in the story in london in what they had waltham forest pride with in london and they have this video of a muslim woman in full her job heaping abuse on a gay pride guy with a flag on it but the significance of this is she is being charged with a hate crime just for screaming at him that wouldn't happen republic hundreds of people to she has showed up in prague to demonstrate for same sex marriage rights and the chamber of deputies has stalled the we planned for marriage for a year the ruling government is for it sixty one percent of the people are for it but the it is stalled in the chamber of deputies so we'll see whether this demonstration does any good the ninety percent one gun control here but we can't get it through the senate well there you  go also in london they have these these annual concerts called the b b c right where you might want to explain more what that is going to us this is not your music festival so one of the big soloists was an american soprano jamie barton who isn't out by sexual well she calls herself proudly queer are per opera singer into science five drag queens bluegrass social justice equality and cats the musical also refers to herself as a queer girl with a nose ring so she concludes the concert by picking up a rainbow husband stephen is a chubby negative but here's here is garrett statement to us hello i'm thomas and i want to share my secret with you why because it's mine to tell you not the evils i make my life hell threatening to tell you before i do and because i believe in you and i trust  i'm livin with hiv now you have that information that makes me extremely vulnerable but it does not make me weak now even though i have been forced to tell you this i choose to fight to educate and break the stigma around this subject and that begins today when i take on the toughest iron man in the world in ten b and i push myself physically to the limits i'm asking you to help me to show that everyone lives in fear of people's reactions and opinions to something about them but that doesn't mean we should have to hide but to do this i really really need your support you've got to care very courageous yeah i mean it's sad to me that in this day and age someone should have to be so scared about coming well most people who contracted serino they don't really have to talk about it because they can maintain their health and they don't want to be defined by the disease and he is taking medication anees undetectable i mean you know corey johnson is on one of our big supporters phyllis newman died this week at the age of eighty six she beat barbara streisand for the tell me back and i did sixty two but her lasting legacy she's a thirty year but she was a thirty year breast cancer survivor she founded the phyllis newman women's health initiative of the actors fund which was created by a grant from our friends at broadway cares equity fights aids which still maintains it with almost a one million dollars a year so we will miss her but her work will go out to some extent going on in san francisco which just reported figures from two thousand and eighteen just one hundred and ninety seven new hiv cases last year but while they are declining overall they are shane gillis who's famous for cheap homophobic and racist jokes over a picture of him this is with he's on the left you know he's on the left and the guy on the right is hard we called a white faggot comic he just makes crude remarks like this and thinks they're funny and i watched his asian stuff and it's all just you know it's all just stereotypes and stupidity and he talks about well you know i take risks and it doesn't always work take talk to you in shame dela said ok and so now they're getting together and yang doesn't seem so ok regretful about that we'll see where it ends up all right really the fact that these guys saturday night live had to i watched the st episode i don't think that's a good indication it wasn't very funny so i'm hoping she warms up but it gets more interesting as we're taping our wednesday and b c is doing a ten pm hour special with her to try to draw people in i certainly want her to be a big success and to be really good i wasn't impressed by the st look but she's evidently a big you tube star don't do about bachelor in paradise this is a thing we talked to you about a few weeks ago where there was a bisexual contestant who said she'd been dating a woman off screen so they brought the woman onto the show even though she had no previous connection with the bachelor which is the requirement for a bachelor in paradise which is a summer show where they bring in losing contestants from the battle of the bachelorette but the back up we want to see here and we've got on so the big finale of bachelor paradise is these two got trigger warning christian haggerty on the left and demi burnette on the right we've lost them again but congratulations to them let's hope their relationship last more than most bachelor related re but it's a lot about her real and fantasy sex life and a lot of it includes her relationships with women so she's described as having sexual adventures for all you gentlemen jack know he's an aspiring gay politician at this point in san st sebastian i school and gwyneth paltrow places mom it's a comedy another documentary opening this weekend in new york and next weekend in l a this is the one i was thinking of called don't be nice it has a lot of queer content it's about the bowery poetry slam performers and it's really quite compelling and very deep and thoughtful d and fun and energetic don't be nice is is a very interesting documentary there really we there really it's about them trying to write the truth and not get lazy ratings so there's a big campaign to save it it's online we will include that link in our email if you want to try to save instinct and another headline singer sam smith you remember his huge hit stay with me as i came describing it is basically pure filth and i always loved it and we have a start date for the reboot of the l word generation q december th on showtime bringing