good evening everybody it's really great to be here with all of you you know it's really is quite an honor and i say that in really mean it because i think back you know seeing you al involved in the workers center and something happened over here that was really inspiring in really inspired a lot of us ballasts eola know these folks here tonight they were down in the streets shutting down the world trade organization meetings and that kind of movement of seeing forces come together movements come together labor movement and across different issues really affected us really raise our you know expectations of what kind of movement is possible what kind of movement will be necessary to really fulfill the mission of our organization and in vermont the vermont worker center got started in about one thousand nine hundred eight officially and we did a lot of really great work fighting for workers rights and livable wages and helping nurses nursing home workers and others organize unions fighting human are part from free trade agreements and and so on but we really felt that we were just scratching the surface of what was needed to really fulfill our mission to really have you know workers rights and have the ability for people to live and work in dignity and so we did a bunch of long term planning and it's really nice to be on your tenth anniversary of your new meeting because at ours in two thousand and eight we launched our health care is a human right campaign it was a big deal for us we transformed as an organization we became kind of a workers rights coalition mobilization organization to a grassroots base building organization getting our communities organized to try to have the power to change what was politically possible we knew you know that was going to take a long time to do it you know we had politicians that told people that they supported this but when it came time to actually do it there wasn't the political will as was said here and send a very familiar and so you know we said that we were just going to get out and get our communities organized and we're also going to bring forth the stories of what the health care system right now how people are experiencing it and how the the unjust realities of people not getting care when they need it falling into medical debt and all the various ways that right now our health care system is leaving people out and creating a lot of suffering amounted to a human rights crisis and that we would indict that system and then be able to use human rights that framework to be able to have a system that was more in line with the values of goal you know that we set out to do and we went around and we surveyed thousands of vermonters we ended up having these human rights hearings across the state to bring forth these stories and then we ended up building for a huge rally at our state  capital health care's human rights rally on may first two thousand and nine so we weren't really dealing with elected officials at that stage we consciously said we just want to get our organize communities organize and begin showing that a lot of people could act together and start raising expectations about what was possible we had the biggest rally in the history of the state on a weekday at our state capital with twelve hundred people for months a little that they came out and and on a week they came in just had a massive rally and then we started saying ok now we can start thinking about you know bringing this movement inside the state house and holding people accountable and in the course of a few years that what was politically possible began to change one big thing happened that made it happen a lot quicker was our governor decided not to run we had a republican governor at the time and so in that two thousand and ten legislative session when we had all this energy going forward all of a sudden a bunch of ambitious legislators that were thinking about running in the democratic primary for governor started getting very serious about trying to move forward for universal health care we passed a law that that was figuring out how vermont can do this during this time while politicians you know were starting to change what they were saying about was possible on a federal level you know from two thousand and eight to two thousand and ten we were watching the  carried out and you know there was people in vermont in beyond that were saying this was going to be the best thing that this country can do a run universal health care around health care reform and you know we from the from very start said this is not going to solve the health care crisis we're going to still have people with insurance products that don't adequately cover them and their families and vermont had a responsibility to keep forward so it will sort of fast forward through some of this stage so we can get to talking about where we're at right now but sensually in a very tight election one of our very ambitious senators won a primary by five hundred votes he was championing universal health care amongst five top candidates three of the other two of the other candidates were also very strongly changed in the universal health care but he you know he won he was unfortunately the guy that we probably trusted the least he was you know very ambitious one of the richest guys in the state but he was using this you know saw the political expedience of doing this and then he squeaked out a victory in the general election by two thousand votes over our governor and win in two thousand and eleven with saying you the guy that can get things done health care is a right and vermont can lead the way and that year we ended up passing at forty eight law that would bring vermont to having it the first universal health care system in the country one important pieces that kind of went through with this political meant momentum we the super majority democratic controlled legislature at the time was that the democrats actually added an amendment in the senate right before it got voted out that would have excluded undocumented workers  ottenstein thousands of dairy farm workers and the governor's office and legislative leadership they all said this was you know impossible to get out this is an amendment that they some reason had to have been there and we said absolutely not we had massive rallies the may first that was in a very interesting year you know occupy wall street ended up happening that fall we got smashed with hurricane irene which was devastated a lot of the poorest areas of the state mobile home parks build in the valleys and flood plains and so you know our movement at that stage we had to wait twenty seventeen because the affordable care act to actually implement a universal health care system but you know many of people in the organization across the state were really seeing that we can't have a just health care system in an unjust society and the effects of poverty are part of our right to health as margaret will probably talk about you know the social determinants of health are a huge factor whether people are going to get healthy or not so you could have a universal health care system but if you have poverty that is you know people are homeless and not getting the things that they need that people still don't have the right to be healthy so we started a broad movement called put people first working with a bunch of partner organizations and we formed a human rights council and you know kept building a movement we started pushing for this idea of a people's budget which would change the way that the state goes about the whole budgeting process which is kind of just you know taking whatever taxes they had the year before seeing if they have enough money they don't so they've cut it incredibly important programs that our communities need we said we have to go out and talk to communities what do community needs assessments  look about what are the priorities to make sure that people have the right to live in a healthy and dignified lives and we were able to pass and sat with that is the clear goal of our state budget and also you know we were thinking about how do we finance health care system in a way that's aquittal and it's such a big endeavor we're really talking about you know how do we have just taxation policies how do we have the needs of our communities met and so we started a much bigger bigger movement th realized in vermont you know wasn't just about passing one law about passing two laws it was about really having a people's movement that was capable of shifting things so that we could have a real democracy that people were countable and they weren't just skipping us the lines that they thought we wanted to hear so they could get elected but they were actually committed to doing it because we have the if the ability to hold them accountable so this gets us to our situation now you know we  have continued for we've had some big victories with some of our partner organizations but as this movement building work has grown our governor has you know really shown his true story in many ways he you know basically dangled this idea that he was going to do universal health care is the carrot to progressive this while he you know acted like a republican in almost every other way he killed the paid sick day bill he cut programs said he will not raise taxes on the wealthy and we have to cut our welfare program our reach out program for from others and you know really angered a lot of people he did a bunch of other things including his administration bungled the whole health care exchange the website was a fiasco  security breaches the media jumped all over it and you know like i said people didn't really trust this guy he's a smart politician but you know he's now become one of the more unpopular people in this last election he was running against literally no  and said that he is not recommending that we move forward with universal health care he said you know the state can't afford it even though his job was not to make that determination his job by the law was to bring forth  about how we could move in this direction in the legislature makes that determination but he instead of done that he brought forth a non recommendation his administration actually had some good people working in there we you know we dug into this eighty page report and they had actual proposals where ninety five percent of our monitors would benefit under under this shift to public financing and yet he said it was you know not a political decision but an economic decision and twenty nine people got arrested and ended up having just the charges dropped a couple of weeks ago this was you know something that we needed to make sure that the democratic people that have been in power now in vermont having super majorities in both legislatures and the governor's office knew that people were not going to stand for this and that we were going to continue to make a political mandate to move forward so that's you know where we're at now the legislature led him to lay coming out with this proposal for two years and now they're letting him not move forward with his obligations under the two thousand and eleven law we are continuing to build you know a movement right now that is joining with our state employees who are facing massive layoffs and cuts to important services next april eleventh a few saturdays from now we will be having another massive rally at the state know we have our work cut out for us and you know i just wanted to say also that you know we really see this is really you know inspiring to me to see you all the work that you're doing here i mean it's just like i said back in one thousand nine hundred ninety that work you know had impact across this country across the world and what you're continuing to do you know fighting for fight for fifteen in strike poverty and you know all of that work is you know we really do see it as one movement we all are our victory in vermont is only as good as it creating a movement for for it happening in other states i know there's been a lot of talk about should we try to fight for this on a state level or should we try to fight for on a national level and you know for us there's no doubt that we makes a lot more sense for a national level but we must fight where we can win to create momentum and so we're going to do everything we can and to be a catalyst by trying to win in our little state and we're just really super inspired to see all the work that you all to do in here you know we will need your support it's going to be tough you know we saw you know in the last election one of the other factors was a bunch of koch brother money came into some scare a bunch of seniors about you know what this would do to them and you know sending mailings in phone calls and stuff and it had an impact on a number of tight legislative races and you know we're starting to see you know vermont had not had that kind of campaigns before this past election and we're starting to see it now you know there's definitely people that want to stop us that are outside our borders and so we really do believe that our movement has to have you know solidarity across all the states across the borders movement you know you have you can't just you know organize around it be there it takes a lot of focus but it also can be in isolation because it is not an issue that stands alone so it's just really excited to see all the tables out here with the transit union and fight for fifteen and all the great organizations fighting for things and that's exactly what we're trying to foster up in vermont and you know i just i'm really excited to be here i can't wait to come back and you know it can't be anything but a lot of jealousy  thank you all sisters and brothers for being here and for the speakers who preceded me and especially the inspiring story from where mine and i think beyond inspiration the lessons that we can learn you know  that and i want to do you know i wanted to start by saying that if public mandate were to decide her then we should have had single payer health care decades ago and so the question that we should explore is why we don't have it in just to give you know just a glimpse i'm you know everybody in this room is on the same page but just to give an idea of what that public mandate looked like for years and still looks like a majority of the population at the time that obama was just you know discussing reforms where health care was on the side of single payer health care or a strong public option you know the end for getting the details aside if you go to any ordinary rational human being who has the interests of themselves and their families and their community at heart and you asked don't you think that this the you know social service you know health care is such a basic need should be socially shared and that the people of the dock should be paying the most and you know really the workers who make the city run should be getting it for free and our children should be able to have that our elderly parent should be able to have that without a dollar people are going to urge you all to read this because it is a heartfelt account full of nitty gritty of what it means to be a doctor you go in the morning and you try to service your patients and the enormous obstacles that they're faced to it and she particularly points out the major major loophole that happened medicaid ended up adopting for profit insurance companies and she mentions that reform cited one of the united into a month's full time workers earning the minimum wage many of whom are women and it is it could cost a thousand more than a thousand dollars out of pocket so if you look at these startling numbers and you look at all th mandate that we have from people from this visit from health care providers we should have this already so the question we should we should focus on is why don't we have it what went wrong and what we what should we be doing in the coming month and years and i think just to lay out the overall picture of what happened in washington d c at that time reso the republican party and the insurance industry the injuns lobbying going on an all out probably war against the very idea of public health care and they did that even though they knew that the deal that was coming was actually going to enrich them why did they do that they didn't they you do that they did that because how they just accepted it you know yeah we're going to get lots of good things from obama about my new ways that we can stay out of it then they would have allowed the space for the activist movement to strike back and get enough room to organize and get some good things into the bill what they did was completely sucked out of the air so that there was absolutely no question there was no question single payer was off the table and contrast what did the democrats do the democratic party establishment which controlled most of the the displayed in an executive branch at the time they had allowed the republicans to dictate the agenda and they did what they always these other people behind the white house and us congress but we have to remember activists were in the forefront have to remember we should not be going to the establishment far our approval movement all the progressive organizations in my image of the movement all of those people who stand for social racial and economic justice and for environmental sustainability have bo and that is why i think the most important message we have today to the people that we are trying to empower the people on the ground working families is the need and the labor  of independent politics you can have a raving success imagine imagine what to be could do if all around the nation we had a huge political momentum away from the two big business represents the interests of the people i care about and i always tell people yes we need a third party but it matters what kind it is we don't want to be party obviously exclusively this was a collective effort as anything always is when when you talk about social justice but i go back to this example because it was such a clear example of what independent politics looks like i call myself an open socialist you don't have to do that but what we did by it by using that relentlessly on the campaign you know people who kept asking me why do you always have to start a speech by saying i'm a socialist because  is a system that is not working for a for them they have entered the world in which capitalism is in its deepest recession since the great depression that is no solution within gapper lism on the horizon for this deep deep international crisis socialist it seems you know very obvious and straightforward there's no way i would ever take money from corporations not to die to give me any money because they're also irrational but but but  jurisdiction where you're running and that's very important you know because we often talk about republicans like seattle does not really have a republican party to speak of and i agree with you i agree with you but if you look at those situation of people in seattle mired in low wages would a deepening crisis in housing affordability and waited a city council an office that i systematically work in the interests of corporate developers and more and more of the interest of our land being taken over by a vulcan and amazon dot com who doorstep does the scenario live it lies on the doorstep of the democratic party establishment ordinary working people a real representation for those who are marginalized women and people of color especially in the black community communities of color the latino community the immigrant community we are trying and we are showing that and i you know i political landscape of seattle and sally going to said that is precisely why they are going to go into an all out war against us this year and the way they will do it is of course by isolating me and b you know by by casting personal slurs but we have to remember that if we are here in order to fight effectively for single payer healthcare and when the victories and as everybody before me said if you're fighting for single better health care then you're fighting for all kinds of justice because how can you fight for one and not fight for the other all these are interconnected and for four and that purpose in order to achieve that achieve those  and we but that's not important in itself what's important about it is doing things one the opportunity that it gives us to fight for for there are strong reforms in seattle but not just that the opportunity to raise all of hundreds of thousands of people around us and do you know present the idea a real concrete idea of independent politics learning theory but in practice and i hope that you will be with me very inviting me back i have to start out by saying i'm getting a cold i'm going to do my best and do my best to make sense to you tonight but it's really truly wonderful to be here because this is really a beautiful community and feel very welcomed thank you for inviting me to be here and just i'm really enjoying the conversation tonight and thinking how i don't think that we would have this conversation five years ago i think that it's really important for you to see how much you have moved and how much kind of the whole culture in this country is moving where we're starting to see the importance of these connections and the importance of solidarity and of independent political movements so so give yourselves a hand for you know just really moves and direction toward social justice so i feel like you guys know so much already and you've done some really tremendous work here in seattle but what i want to do is kind of share with you some of the journey that i've had because you know we were in there in two thousand and nine two thousand and ten in fighting for health care justice seeing it as an opportunity to actually achieve what this country needs and what so many of us wanted and  so close and how that was just not going to happen in the current system since then i take in i guess if i think about it it's really kind of a physician approach to you know social justice it's  about looking at the symptoms and trying to under identify the underlying causes of those symptoms and then what are the effective treatments crate i don't i'm not doing advocacy because i just like to do advocacy i'm doing advocacy because i want to make a difference so how are we going to make a difference and i think it's really important for us to know it and it's been a real journey for me and i've learned from people in this room james of course and others so it's constantly we're in this this world of social justice activism we need to be learning and learning from each other and learning from our experiences and evolving our practices so how are we going to achieve health care is a human right i actually would like to say how are we going to achieve health as a human right because it's not just about access to health care and many of you know that if we just tomorrow granted you know access to health care to every person we wouldn't solve the health crises that we have in this country we know that the social determinants of health care which i think james and others touched on you know having adequate education having a house to live and having a job with a living wage having access to healthy food having access to clean water clean air being treated with dignity all of these things you know being in community is are things that make a huge difference in our health and so and so it's a big task that we take on in trying to create a healthier population and single payer is part of that and in addition to that we've got to see health care as part of this struggle for social economic and environmental justice because in this fight we see that that you know whether it's  education or the environment or healthy food or health care worker rights we're all facing the same obstacles and we have a lot of crises going on right now in this country on a lot of fronts but they are rooted in systems that are causing them and i think don berwick who is a pediatrician who was head of c m s for a while and one of the things i remember that he taught me is that maybe this is like everybody knows this but it was just for me when i heard read it that he said this just systems create what they're designed to create so you know we're in this system and we're getting these results that's because that's what the system does and so if we want to change the results we really have to change the system things so what are we looking at you know where in this situation now locally nationally globally where we're in this this drive commodification of everything ok and it's and it's privatization of everything and democracy you know that democracy is under attack in this country i mean we just did our radio show this past week we had a few guests from detroit on our show a member of the detroit public school board is operating in exile because the board was kicked out they had one hundred million dollars surplus and a one point five billion dollars bond and the state saw that and they wanted it so they kicked out the school board put in an emergency financial manager and they've looted the entire amount they've shut down schools are cutting the teachers i mean it's a situation where the kids test scores are falling and they're starting to look at alternatives like like can we do freedom schools can we do saturday schools are there ways we can start to meet our suit our student needs and when the state had a ballot initiative to to prevent to prohibit emergency manager being put in place and they passed that initiative the state just rewrote the law and undermined the whole work and just you know you know so much for democracy right so this is the situation that we're in i mean this is something that we have done as a country not us personally but our policy as a country has been to do this throughout the word of the world in the global south and now we're seeing it at work so well there is coming back home to here and so this is like it's not fun to talk about these things but we really have to understand the reality of the situation that we're in and i call it an epidemic of neo liberalism you know it's going to it's just it's everywhere on every front this is what we're facing and so  are all these crises but at the same time i don't get down about those crises because there are so opportunities and there are opportunities for us to think boldly and act boldly and change the system and create systems that actually won't create these outcomes that will actually create a more just world a more equal world a more sustainable and peaceful world so this is a huge opportunity that's up to us to take this opportunity and peopled and make these changes in this very excited to see shama doing that here in seattle so i'm really glad that you opened up some space for me both of you because i think you know if we're going to look at the root causes and i've had pushback you know from saying these things but we have to be able to say that capitalism is the problem  there we have to look at imperialism at a world you know a country where we're spending so much of our tax dollars on creating violence and instability all over the world and not using those resources here at home to lift up our own population we have to talk about racism i mean it's it is deeply ingrained in our country and so as social justice activists if we don't want to keep making the same mistakes we have to confront this and deal with it and talk about it and learn how the how this has happened what sustains it how we change that we have to talk about colonialism because the american genocide is continuing and it's a history that many people are children are not taught this history we still continue to exploit our native american communities and we need to stop doing that  of the final day of the world social forum that's been going on in tunisia and the world social forum was started in response to something called the world economic forum which happens every year in davos and at the world economic forum all the global the come together and i don't know what they do there because they don't tell anybody but they do but i do know that they've put together something called the global redesign initiative and under this initiative the basic a nation states are just really outdated you know nation states they're like obstacles they get in the way they're slow they don't allow us to change the corporations are so efficient because they can like take resources from one country and labor from another country and they can make things and ship them to another place and if they you know that the resources aren't there anymore they can just go to this other place and so so there was really this philosophy this ideology starting to develop of we need to get rid of nation states replace them with multinational corporations making the decisions and kind of de facto that's happened to right the multinational corporations are determining our our policies in many ways are determining how our workers are treated they're determining the distribution of goods and even there was a study this past year if you didn't see it by guillen's and page out of princeton and northwestern where they actually looked at the united states you know government and looked at twenty twenty year period and the public policy that was passed and they found that overwhelmingly our public policy was favoring the wealthy and so they said this is you know we live in a plutocracy it's just you know now is a scientific fact and even at this last  world economic forum there was a reporter for bloomberg news who was in interviewing an economist from new york and he said he said so tell me how big is the plutocratic effect this year and the bottom is so well it's actually quite significant i mean i don't make this up but this is the situation that we're in right we're in a situation where this is the path this is what they actually see our global governance becoming and so we have to know this we have to be armed with these facts so that we can figure out how we're going to change it right but we can't change it so a few years ago when i learned about the trans pacific partnership it's an international agreement that had started being negotiated under president bush but he dropped it and resident obama picked it up and ran with it and so for more than five years now this agreement between twelve presidio countries has been negotiated in secret it's the first time they ever classified the text of a trade agreement as not actually a trade agreement it's actually a treaty but they don't want to call it a treaty because if they did it would be harder for you know they have to have the senate pass it with a with a larger majority so they call it a trade agreement but really of all the twenty nine chapters very few are about trade and much more it's about getting through the back door of congress the things that multinational corporations won so thanks to wiki leaks again they've the only way that we kind of know what they should remember that they leak some of the portions and they just leak to the investor the investment chapter and there's something called investor state dispute settlement tribunals that they've created and this tribunal is we've had some of it kind of under nafta but this is like this tribunal and steroids it's a tribunal where corporate lawyers on leave from their corporate jobs are the ones who serve as judges and then they go back to their job and that allows corporations to sue our government even at the local level state level federal level if our laws to protect our public health or protect the planet get in the way of their expected profits and so if you decide that you're going to you know you raise the wages of your workers but now that's going to interfere with profits  they can sue you for what they expected to make and if we as a community can't cough up that much money we're probably just going to change that law and lower our wages so this is a direct hit to our local democracy and our sovereignty not to mention that the laws that are the provisions that are in this a treaty well our laws will have to be harmonized with them so it's directly it's being negotiated in secret and it's going to directly change our lives so we learned about this and not many people were talking about it we would go to activists gathering and very few people knew about it so we spent a lot of time writing about it and this was really you know you mentioned the movement of movements this was an opportunity to build a movement of movements because it really affects everything that we care about from the food that we eat to our health care you know you name it so over these years we've built together with others we've built this huge movement of movement and now they're saying it's the largest coalition that's come together to fight one of these treaty agreements  and and we've beat it back they tried to introduce fast track legislation that would allow them to rush it through congress last january and they did that there were ten days of actions tens of thousands of phone calls into congress hundreds of thousands of e mails and to congress and it they they dropped it it went away so now they've introduced it again and they wanted to get it passed and in march and people have been rising up and they've been protesting at their congress members offices and we've been doing a lot of protest in washington d c and now they're saying that maybe the earliest i'll introduce it is mid april so the movement is working it's working together we're seeing labor stand up you know labor has just as a at the at the national level they've just been allowing themselves to get hit over and over again and they don't stand up to it and this time they are standing up and putting resources into it that's a tremendous thing and i hope it continues after this on a range of other issues but so you know we without them the billions that the transnational corporations have come with have you know with just our ability to go to our members of congress as offices and sit in and contact them and pressure them we've been able to hold off this agreement and our feeling is that because you beat back the o and ever since then they haven't been able to move forward and now they're trying this backdoor approach through the trans pacific partnership in the trans atlantic trade investment partnership we beat these back we can say to them this era is over give up you know we can we need to a new way because every time you try to do this we're going to be on to you are going to stop you so see in this situation we see that the traditional tools that we've used to change political power are not really sufficient in the situation that we're in but there are tools that we can use we can build this movement of movement activate ourselves and be willing to use civil resistance we need to get the social change that we need and back when the health reform process was moving through and i saw what was going on we coined this acronym i c u you know we're in a crisis and we need  and that's partly my formula for the work that we do it i stands for independent we have to be independent of political party and hold to argenta to our issue no matter if the politicians are with us i mean it's a sham as a brother fresh air it is wonderful on your rare bird because not many know of no other politicians i know of that actually come out of the movement and are accountable to the movement in the way that you are and we need more of that but we have to be willing to be independent we have to be clear about what we want like the table that we have you know we're always told what we want is off the table well that table you know is a correct table what we want is never going to be on the table so we have to be clear about we want and we have to put it on the table and then we have to be uncompromising about it recently we're involved as david said in the net neutrality battle and when we started that about a year ago it was in april the end of april that the rules were leaked the f c c was going to vote on and these were rules that were going to create a tiered internet where it was to discriminatory based on your ability to pay and we knew that that was something that for us as an organization that was a fundamental that was just going to destroy us because we already have the commercial media that you know is is so powerful and now we're going to see our internet which is our freedom of speech in the twenty first sundered century it turned into this corporate commodified medium so we had to change that and the coalition that we worked with didn't believe that we could get the internet reclassified as a common carrier as it had been initially even when we joined them and said this is what we're going to do and so when eight we continued to protest and we continued when when the f c c was trying to put through a compromise and people within our coalition were saying let's try to make this a good compromise we said no we're not making this a good compromise because it has loopholes we have to go for the full thing and we continue to pressure were actually winning for single payer because what we're doing is we're shifting the power and we're learning because the people in that coalition learned and this was really new to them that when you are not compromising and when you're willing to get in their face and block their cars and protest outside the f c c that they will give and as you know it really discover over and over again how little sometimes it's surprising how little it can take when you get in their face because they're just not used to that so all right so what we're doing  prefer we promote a two path approach of stopping the things that are really harmful and then creating alternatives that we want to grow up and replace the current systems that we have so if we scope we called stop the machine create a new world and was beautiful  within that strategy there's room for everybody to be doing the work that you're that you're caring about and to see that you're part of this broader movement whether you're you know working to create an alternative clinic here or you know you're working to stop a harmful policy you're all together you're part of this of this movement so what is my ok i want to talk about where we are as a movement because we look at the phases of successful social movements and we're in what is called phase six and phase seven is actually winning and phase eight is defending that win and moving on to the next struggle and in today's six what's really important is a couple of things political education and i feel like you guys are really you know you're getting that and so much across the country more and more people are getting that of understanding there's a problem that the current situation can't fix that problem and then the next step is building national consensus for what the solutions are so we want to have a super majority of people that support the solutions but then you only need to mobilize on the streets about three point five percent of the population the research shows that if we can mobilize three point five percent of the population no government of any form has stood up to that so this is achievable right we can do this we can build  of movement we can learn how to be successful we can get these gains and continue to build off of that and when so i feel really hopeful about where we're growing as a future you know in the future although it's a difficult struggle i'm not going to go into the portable care act but it's falls right in there with the new neo liberal economic model it's sucking our public dollars into a private system that is continuing to just deny restrict  it's moving us in the opposite direction of where we need to go farther towards a market based privatized health care system and we need to pull it back the other way so our job as a movement is to be out you know outspoken about that we can't be afraid to say that people need to understand that we're going in the wrong direction so that we can go back in the other direction we need to work in solidarity i mean you others have already said this that you know we need to go to where others are doing their actions and say to them how can we support you how can we participate with you because we're really doing in building this movement a movement is building relationships and building community and getting to know each other and talk to each other and you know find out who each other are so that can work together to stop things and to create the kind of society that we want to live in and i think i just want to close with and we'll get on to the panel that and this is something that i think clinton has always told me is that this is a this is a long struggle right this is a lifetime struggle for all of us and so there may be times when you can participate out in the streets and be there and there may be times when you can't but that's ok because we're all still part of this this movement and we have to take care of ourselves but we had to take care of ourselves and recognize that we have to find ways that we can also support ourselves and support each other so that we can stay in this struggle together and and so i want to thank you for inviting me to be here tonight and i look forward to our further discussion