you like people say does this really happen is that it does yes a lot it's scary and it shouldn't be happening anymore because there's all these protocols in place i mean and you remember even back in when you were in the operating room right yeah there's timeouts your spine is checks there's instrument checks you've got a count everything yet before and then after so how do they count things and say yes we have everything but then the person leaves with an item in them so somebody is that counting correctly exactly you know it's let's go back to basics you know what can be four or five maybe they need to be taught how to count before they become a nurse or a surgical tack or whatever it is whoever is responsible for that right  i'm believable so scuse me we have gotten some great stories like the top ten most horrific cases a foreign bodies left inside a patient that sounds good and i could think of like other ones besides these top ten wonderful ok well you start with number one there was a twelve inch long malibu tractor that was left in the man's chest how do you leave a retractor in someone's  twelve inch lonely tractor that was left in him and then he says since then he'll only have procedures then it's a videotape and who do you think is going to agree to videotape surgery for him nobody nobody because legally they don't want to be quite on tape doing anything they don't even some hospitals won't even let parents videotape the birth of their children anymore right exactly because you can accidentally see when you know there's a photography you know new videos allowed they didn't they didn't let you video wow so they're really laying down the law now scary it said what are you hiding if you weren't hiding anything were you worried about making a mistake there'd be no problem right right exactly right number two every taint a large surgical sponge was mistaken for a tumor woman has a sorry infection and life goes on she's having pain problems issues tests done and they say you have an ovarian tumor so she's having ultrasounds oh my god stomach pain that's it she has a mass she thinks she has cancer now and she's dying and  they say you know there's this huge mass and it's your small intestine your right colon looks like there's lymph nodes involved all of this trauma goes on and they get her ready for surgery cut or open and there's like two liters of pasta and fluid coming out everywhere and there is no tumor it is a surgical sponge that has been inflamed infected and stuck to the cavity wall for quite some time  you know you have to hope to go to a reputable place where this happens one out of every millions of cases exactly or not at all because that's pretty terrible psycho little behold oh my gosh what's that you know i remember one of my first cases i ever worked on when i started working in malpractise was a retained object and when i started working at the law firm they had a big x ray on the wall and it stayed up there and it was unfair scissors that were in the guys up in the stomach by the lungs and he actually was as clear as day and there was a scissors and whoops so that case settled before it got to trial but i hate and i just don't know out a towel with the hospital's name on it oh my god a towel a towel and you forget it you know it's kind of vague me i mean somebody just not paying attention when they're clos people up like what kind of what what part of would you use that for you know you know i'm sure it was used to like move something out of the way and you know and they just left it in there  awful sorry number three there was a surgical swab that was stuck on a woman small intestines for nine years nine years and they were they were very lucky that she because it was laws and got stuck to her intestines the she was having stomach problems diarrhea vomiting constipation for nine years and they didn't bother to tell her why until they i guess somebody finally did a test so kind of x ray or ultrasound and then that was left in it was left in the year because she had a laboratory procedure for a rupture of ectopic pregnancy noice so my years later she is unbelievable so i mean you know like for nine years it's in her festering yeah poking into things and you know doing some damage  next one a man who lost his job because a two foot long guide wire was left in his body i mean as a travel agent and he lost his job because this retained wire is there he received a cardiac the tip of the wire started from his growing a went up to his chest the guide wire was used to evaluate the blood flow as most catheterizations do it was successful he had quadruple bypass but the guide wire was left unbeknownst to him  so the hospital apparently can explain how the doctors didn't notice that the wire was left the patient claimed he had checked x rays six times they did six x rays on him over time and said they didn't see anything he's not sure how they didn't catch it it was only supposed to minister of misery with the right to make sure it's the same exact size that it went in so that it isn't retained but somebody can do that and they said he finally went to regular check up and some doctor just doing a regular exam was able to figure it out he was unaware that this was going on he was in the hospital for a while to have the guard wire removed and they said that it could have punctured a vein and caused him to bleed to death so he's very very lucky he did have a blood clot in his leg near where the guard wire was inserted and back in happen so they said the the incident was horrible and he needed to give up his job as a travel agent because of the medical advice that they'd given him which was that he could no longer fly because of blood clots and he just really couldn't travel anymore so he felt that he just wasn't going to be a good travel agent anymore and he probably does have to travel to all these different places sure janacek a mountain and so he basically lost his job because he could no longer travel because of what they did to him awful that's terrible there goes your livelihood all right what's number five a surgical clear that was trapped inside a man's abdomen twice twice twice this poor fella fifty nine years old he had a clamp that was six six his long that was stuck in the him because he he went to the reason they had a first clamp that was left in him in a different hospital a different hospital there what happened when they took out that they forgot another one oh my god so we had to have that second would take it out i would never want to have surgery again if i was him exactly why with him do they not remember to take clamps out exactly so of course infections that caused him problems it happened twice let's see that they say that they retain deceptive so bold says that minimally invasive procedures can also and in health problems this female went she had severe chronic pelvic pain she underwent a robot assisted surgery where the doctors removed her uterus ovaries fallopian tubes in her pen ticks you know kind of robotically and took out everything to get everything so after the uterus and the cervix were couldn't swallow anything couldn't keep anything down they finally did some testing and realized that there was added pressure to the bladder neck she had a partial bladder obstruction a urinary tract infection and they said she had paid him problems but really you know kind of brushed it off wasn't thinking much about it until she puked it out yeah nice so it took three years though to come out yeah that's crazy the x ray machine kept beeping to see here's what we're talking about what is it tech did a pair of scissors inside a woman's abdomen unbeknownst to her she had metal in her she had gone for treatment for uterine cancer it was a turkish woman  she had major surgery in two thousand and ten she was complaining of pain in her stomach and abdomen five years after that and they pretty much kept saying it's part of the recovery process you know here you mean a baby ok just gas right so they never really told her what it was finally she goes for a second opinion at a different hospital and they say wait a second here you have inflammation and it's due to scissors that are inside your abdomen  they said there was an x ray machine they kept beeping what it was detected so they were there was a presence of metal and they first assumed that something was in the patient's pockets and they realized it was really in her stomach and there you  go so if you're ever going through a metal detector and it won't stop going off and you don't know why because you've taken off everything you need to go to the doctor and get an x ray or a cat scan because you may have something inside of you if you recently had surgery it's scary  have metal anymore i have screws titanium screws but the play is plastic plastic so do you go off when you go through the x ray machine i only did one once but i explained they asked me if i have any medals and i told her they say implants i say i have screws in my head so i might have a screw loose you add one loose before all this so now they've taken them up what a surprise they found the bleeding better in the skill skull you know they weren't surgery to have it removed so the moral of the story is china doesn't have good health care right i go to the hospital i say i was stabbed them stabbed in the head you take care of my ok but he lived through it yeah when we got the test and i found it and he lived through it and that's pretty amazing and i still don't know how they didn't find that number ten a pair of surgical forceps was left inside a woman stomach following a tummy tuck so you know she goes in for the tummy tuck she's a frenchwoman she's dreaming of this flat stomach after two pregnancies she thinks this is the best thing and it's going to go smoothly right after the operation she starts having stomach cramps and severe pain and they say well we're not really sure it's normal you know you'll be fine after five months she's convinced it's something else she can't take it anymore and what happens is she begins coughing hard and put too much pressure on her belly which dislodge the item and it actually starts protruding through her nabl oh her belly button it's actually coming through and she notices that there is sorry so she has to go back in for another operation and the operation was on a friday the doctor told the woman maybe you should wait  monday to remove them because he was busy and had other plans scheduled for friday and she of course had a fit and then he because he was worried about going to have to go play golf he offered to remove them for free as a valentine's present to her because it was around valentine's day wasn't that nice of them have a valid planes they i'm sorry that i left something in us i'm sorry i nord all of your complaints for five months after yeah but i'll take it out for free yeah  like you should charge somebody if you leave something in them crazy so there is this happens a lot they said they did a study actually and found that more than a dozen times a day doctors patients with sponges or other supplies left inside of them when they did the research of must the united states and that shouldn't be happening anymore if you're doing accounts right and that should happen by the ads and stuff they have like a blue like three times on them so if you you can it would show up in the x ray and isn't there a special light even that you can somehow time go over the patient that certain things will light up the sponges and the pads there's a smart s have three sponges that are with the fifty that would have with the wand over to come up three and you know with technology these days it's probably something that is very expensive that makes sense to get because you know it just if you can't keep the count's right and you're leaving things in patients it's it's not a good problem to have they said you know unfortunately the complications and some of these people can last a lifetime some of them don't survive people die from you know things migrating and going through something and you know they find out later on something was in there sometimes they don't find out at all because they don't know why they passed away he was the person who had a laminectomy done and they had screws in the of victims but right now there is no federal reporting requirement what hospitals leave sponges or other items and patients and i just read today that actually our current president government is saying he wants do away with the reporting system for hospitals for infections and complications and errors yeah and i think that is a terrible terrible say because they have to report those things to the state right now they're saying that there's there's no federal reporting system and if things continue there will be no state reporting systems either they say so they're guessing and based on their research and data between forty five hundred and six thousand times a year items are left mistakenly into people and they say they're saying that at least three thousand of those cases are probably sponges because that is just something that they just seem to leave but it can cause some really big left inside a person so what's the solution they said that there's all kinds of things like you said that there's an instrument that can you can find them there's different types of sponges now that they're saying are easier to see even if they're blood soaked so that you don't but i mean if you're counting and you're counting and you're counting that's it i start with ten and i end with i've only pulled out eight then i have to keep looking until i find that i can't say all right well i'm just going to balance the next person exactly it's a simple solution but i just don't know why people are following it i mean i get was a whole by you know i'm not going to get caught i don't care i don't have time it's not my problem but you would hope that your health care team cared a little bit more about you than that right so hopefully the reporting mandates don't change it's going to be very scary it's would have had to report we teed items we did but they're looking to try to pass something that's going to change that so i hope that doesn't go through because right now even with the reporting system it still happens all the time and people who are at risk it has really deterred it ever read heard it at all that all this is going on for years and years now how girls are supposedly get fined or get in trouble if they report that these things happen  but it still doesn't change or stop them right so something different has to happen so that they're a little bit more worried about the consequences so what hopefully then fortunately i don't see it happening any time soon but unfortunately this continues to happen and again like we said you're under anesthesia your you can't sit there and say did you get all of your sponges and instruments and everything else so you're kind of add we're going to like put of tape of fin yourself is the count correct yet you're at their mercy but what we can tell you is that it does happen it happens a lot and if you have a surgical procedure and you start to have strange problems  left by your heart yeah yeah if you're feeling anything that doesn't seem normal and your doctor is blowing you off insist that you have x rays done or a cat scan done or something done or go find a new doctor who will follow up on it for you because it's it is very possible that you could have something left inside of you scary to say wait did you see my lucky penny i'm saving it for you for for a special spot for later ok go to a reputable hospital that will minimize hopefully the the problem right yeah but you know people make mistakes even good people and good hospitals make mistakes  hopefully with a reputable larger hospital and policies in place that they try to really stick to and that they're serious about they will do all the counts and you'll go home with just your body parts that you're supposed to