most angeles california is that which is with john that which is presented by and as i the movement of spiritual inner awareness movement indicated to awakening the spiritual heart within each of us john rogers the founder and spiritual advisor of the founder and president of the institute for individual and world peace and other organizations for the purpose of improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and has been teaching in conducting seminars for many years to seminars and titled what is a process to inner freedom right after john rogers speaks we'll tell you how you can obtain more information about the movement dear jr i have been in the movement for very long but even so i can see some positive changes and the one change that means so much to me is the way i am relating to my two year old son any of you who have two year old sons know that they can be a handful i'm becoming more patient with him more accepting and i am truly giving of myself and you know what i am enjoying our relationship so much more as the growing expression of living love my son is responding to all of the low however there are a few areas in which i feel the need for assistance the first concerns the negativity that has been previously incurred the last two years were really hard for us it seems that for the most of it i was lost in the dark before the highest good would you lift this negativity and take it into the light out with the old vibes and habit patterns my second request is would you please work with me in relation to my son and my motherhood responsibilities example discipline i don't know if she meant for her or for the son however we decide little both could hurt whenever i need advice i look to my heart and into your book on the spiritual family if i cannot get a practical right now answer then i ask other mothers who have benefited from your help in fact it was one of their advice that inspired this letter the other mother who really gave me inspiration was and i've deleted the name by the lovely letter you read the seminar thanks for reading it i really needed it in the meantime i'm trying my best most of the time and forgiving myself when i remember to as i do have much guilt accumulated from the moment of my son's birth i'm sure that i can use a little my last request brackets for now is that i get an appointment for a child's blessing for my son i realize you'll be traveling for a while so i need to know when i can make an appointment thank you for reading this and thank you for  i think that's great whoever can say the word that can help can lift the can change then that's fine with me because i don't care who speaks the truth i really concern that it be spoken and i don't care if they do it in pigeon english because i'm smart enough to dig it out anyway usually and i figure if i am is going to feel good about this i might just as well feel good because if i feel bad then i'm going to get up and go home well don't do what you people do when you feel bad you get up go  then you sit and feel pity for yourself that you made them feel miserable then you feel guilt so you can feel justified and all that then they get to love you better now they reinforce that bad habit you start over again and again and again and again and then you wonder why you don't seem to be making much progress then after that doesn't work do the person gets wise to your method to your madness you decide to find somebody else and try to get him and you think that change is progress and often changes no more than change and if it was bad to start with and you haven't done anything else but stay in that it's not going to get better it's not designed that way just because we are temporarily distracted from the problem that we're dealing with we feel that we've made some progress but if that problem by its very nature cycles back on  then we find ourselves perpetrating the fraud against our self again then maybe we should confess we're not so smart as to finking we're smart and attempt to move to that level of awareness that definitely is going to maintain itself in the prime of the bar moods too often and maybe far too often on the planet people will say things that will just cast this into despair and all along they were joking i really happens a lot or they're seeing how far they can push you or how much they can get away with in terms of you or your organization or your country or your government or all along if you gave them their way immediately they probably wouldn't like nor could they afford it long time ago somebody said to me something i didn't like the clothes i was wearing i said buy me some new ones like you when i they never did however did make me look look at my clothes and i found out if i had good clothes or had bad clothes i was always the same inside found out the clothes just doesn't make the man or the person there's nothing in this world that does except often it tempers us often it will tend to give us need to strengthen ourselves but i also am pretty well convinced i say pretty well because there some people who haven't seen yet and it may be that they'll be an exception that the greatest strength we have is that part inside of us that we keep going to all the time and we develop that string this isn't mean that there aren't a lot of beautiful things in this world i mean look at all of us present so we know there are beautiful things in this world but there's really no way you can possess anything in this world even by agreement we will own this building we will own this chair we will own this child we will own this car will own this debt eventually it all goes and that often gets to be the most thing the last enemy has stated love the scriptures death and i don't look at death as an enemy often i look at it as the final change after dying not going anywhere either and just to leave this corporate field of behavior isn't going to make you smart in fact if we're so smart why are we back here when there are many places that are much more enjoyable in terms of everything because we don't have to put up with the greed's in the lusts of the body and if we can handle those in terms of freedom freedom being the revelation inside of us that we can be free in our inner consciousness we're well on the way to helping everyone around us and the more we as humans sit with inhibitions and restrictions in terms of angers or resentments the more that we will perpetrate that against anyone we go to the more we'll do that often by doing nothing but just appearing in a group is enough to tick people off and no matter how much you want to smile somebody there will not like how you smile they won't like how you're doing what you're doing and then you often wonder why is this happening to me why are they picking on me why is it my turn to receive this and then we like to say well you know you've been doing some thinking and some things inside of you that to aren't too good you've been corrupting the inner power often let me digress we often wonder how can you crypt the inner power and there are some very good measurements of then we talk about power not that anyone the movement should do a power trip because that's where the fastest way to hell even in terms of living is to go after power because somebody behind you is after the power you've got in some ways after the power they've got and so constantly you're going to be overthrown it isn't a desirable position to be i'm but i'm not talking about that power out there i'm talking about the power inside and that power is awareness in the eastern philosophies th when we feel that power to shock the spirit moving through us it will always go out ahead of us after it has appeared inside of us that appearance entirely independent of our thought but we can increase it coming to us by being open at the same time we're open a thing that comes our way so we have to learn how to discern life but we do that by the experiences that come to us these people who come to us with bayonets and guns can hurt us we we see him coming we get out of their way these people come down the road driving and who are apparently drunk we learn to get out of their way we can see that there is an inherent power of destructiveness and what they're doing somebody comes to you raging you learn to get out of their way if you don't they run or over you or through you but the end result is you're not going to feel happy about it there are many types of philosophy on the planet that talk about that  increasing of the power you know it's like one thin dime or six ninety eight the causing masters of college and you can be god the only hundred thousand people bought the book and they're all seeking to  as this is found there that's like taking a prescription a doctor read gives union you're trying to get well from reading the prescription it's just not there it's like reading a water alman a book  quench your thirst is just not there these only become a very when they become in the here and that means we must take incorporate inside of us when we have done that we have the increased the viability of the energy which is the power but if we follow the philosophy of just power at some point we'll becoming very close to what we call that god enlightenment then we will be like knocking at the door as it were but these people after you watch them over the period of years and often that's really going to find out because they do all sorts of magic with that power you sit in the intimacy of their beingness and you find out that they've got brittle and cold inside and very in bittered because there's no l it's a destructive path it is the path of great illusion because it promises you all of this they will be able to kick sand in your face any more so now they knock your teeth out with the brick there's always something there in the quest of power and empower us track power and that power you attract is as negative as you fear your positive you will you will be neutralize if it's as powerful as you are it will then try to ascend and overtake you the only balance in that is to produce love and attract the love in even as a supplement or a compliment to you so that where you're gained in the love flows only that love comes in and i'll tell you something very factual in this light by god the negativity can't get in it can come toward you and it may threaten you it may do all sorts of things to you but i'll tell you the most sure way to banish evil will surely you have within you the great potential power to banish it if something negative comes your way and you give it fear anger hostility and if you want to disperse it you fall back within the only thing in you that is favorable and will be saved in terms of the word of salvation and that's love and so when it comes to you you love it and it completely destroys it and you've done nothing except be that that is a loving force and as soon as you give fear oh my god they're going to hurt me they're crazy they're wrong you give energy to it it just keeps coming at you and it in itself then can destroy you because you've set up the whole pattern of self destruction negative thinking guilt lust greed avarice fear jealousy resentment irritation go ahead and give it to the devil h in the scripture say resist not evil what you do you fight it you know you love it do you embrace it no i didn't say embrace it what you do say god bless you i love you and it starts the darkness of our own countenance produces the darkness that comes upon if we look for that that is projecting negativity towards us and if there be no negativity projected towards us we'll create it and my god will we do a great job and if we're on a spiritual path in any way shape or form we got to be very watchful because we can even blow the fuse in our own house and then we blame the negative projection out there that doesn't exist but we're doing it vicariously by  spirit goes out the love matches it the spirit goes out the love matches  can be called a lot of things one thing it can be called that's a very practical approach why it's enjoyed by people said we want the value of joy as a parent you haven't had i there's no other value in having it what can you do with it not what is it that just for you you enjoy it joy enjoy it say what i want taking give it to somebody you have no right to take  so i hear your true teacher i said that's just absolute nonsense they say well why not it could you can't teach truth in spirit to people you can't teach that to people there's no way you can discuss any any close of them say truth  close you get to it on this level and to teach means you can learn that's why i say i'm not a true teacher nor spiritual teacher nor anything else except just what i am i tell people is nothing hidden the few can't see hear there's the door and we don't have anything in reserve back here it's just one shot the big bang theory  and for whatever reason that is that's the reason that that is if you can't teach it what's happening well the outward teachings of the movement are or disgustingly profane in terms of the spirit and the truthfulness that's there inside of you and for that you have to have somebody that can go inside of you and teach in that level that is the truth it can only teach in your truth because your truth will recognise it and that truthfulness that we call the soul starts picking up the energy of the other truth and starts vibrating at an increased rate and that vibration becomes awareness inside of you of something that's present called joy and the presence of joy is undeniable indicator that the spirit is present right there i'm not talking about happiness and getting this and talk about joy that thing we say oh my god i don't care what she said there it's there it's there  and you say walk you do with it you see it's just there there's nothing to do with joy but it's amazing how can become contagious and you catch spirituality as a terminal disease you're dead to this level from now on but you say thank god i've been so alive to this level and all the aches the pains and the heartache and striving and the build and the this and then what on earth are we doing here and my point of view is you're here because this is terminal terminals we gather to leave it's the end we're going it's not we're coming together we're in a process of splitting from this place know it is strange i must agree with you but people write me letters that say oh my uncle or my aunts dying and i say good you know they're saying how can you say that so my job isn't to keep them here my job to get an off year so i'm i'm really happy they're going it's you're the one who's unhappy that they're staying but you go ahead and keep him here with all your misery i don't want to be involved in that i'd like to get him off of their happiness get him off and their permanency get him into that place that is truly that place not by my sayso not by your say so but by that place being the place that it is and we all come on to and recognize spontaneously is the place and then we all jump to get into it and find out there's ample room because that place is inside of us so we can live here in the physical body in that place that's everywhere and walk through this world in a joyful state and they will give you shock treatments because nobody should be that happy and i'm saying we're not happy we're joyful happiness is a state of mind i can make anybody happy in a few short minutes just promise your rolls royce oh boy a rolls royce how happy when i don't deliver then you find us just a state of mind but joy is a presence and you don't have to be in a spiritual movement to feel joy or you have to look at some  but somebody else try to do that and you're going to really question them because you don't know why they're doing it but you do know why you're doing it because you're joyful and you're madly in love and there's nothing you can do with it except just beat up on them when the traveler that that is the spiritual part of the physical enters into and with you you say joy is a very poor word but it's sort of like point the arrow the way we're going it's blissful and we see what you do with the bliss you say i just sit there and cry and say well that's not do anything with the bliss that's just exercising the lack o talking with a friend and i said you know the strangest may seem but you can take that person who is an intellectual genius here in this world that everybody would be glad to worship with their pronouns and verbs and adjectives or are chemical balances or scalpel or or upliftment or whatever and you take that that one who the town bumps on their bodies got the village idiot and you strip them of everything and put in the soul realm and you can't tell the difference and that gets to be sad commentary about what we're doing here but you take that one who's intellectual and uses that intellect to do inside with himself and use that as a weapon of unfoldment inside not as a weapon of destruction outwardly not as a teaching process outwardly because you can't teach anybody anything they've got to get it for themselves you can make all sorts of presentation and you know if you make enough and if the kid loves enough he don't learn from you by the love i mean when i used to teach kids come in t anything else we get out of this we're going to work hard to get the kids look at me like that's really the way it is though and they come up to and they see can you teach me this i think i really don't know but i'll take the end of the grading period how much i think you've learned and there's no way i can do it accurately honestly so you're really going to have to really produce a lot to sandbag against me make an error against you you're really going to have to put in that extra time to gain everything that i didn't teach that i thought i did and you don't have to get all that and be sure to laugh at my jokes along the way and if you can do that we're probably going to be in love forever and the love will teach you everything you need to know and carry through every heartbreak every disaster and make a comeback and sit at the throne and ask for more i and be a fantastic trip but you try to do it your mind and there's always somebody else's mind better even if it's worse mean anything other than they just do that and a lot of people are trying to make something more that than what it is that's just it and lot of things are just that and we can spend years fathoming something that is no more valuable after you get it than it was when you started except occupied your time and distracted you finding out if you're an idiot inside and one thing you will find out one thing you will find out and i mean getting in or not thinking you're getting in there not putting time to get in there but getting in there in terms of that people say to me well i think i'm there so you're know and i say you can't play the word game anyone who's there knows who's there and lot of you have been in those smaller seminars with me on retreats and people try the game and i've just called right on the head and showed them what they were doing or why they were doing that and how they can overcome and how they could change it from inside of them and using my words to keep them distracted long enough so they'd give it up and find out what we're talking about thank god every one of them have been smart enough to catch it i don't know how they caught it i don't know how they were smart enough to get it but they got it and it became evident inside of them what they say to me thank god you hung on there and did it god you did them glad you didn't let go because i was upset thank god you knew that there was something in me is so dynamic and powerful and strong and thank god you hung on to it and shook it until i wakened up to it and i got a hold of it now what can i do to help i see well get your sword your shill and get out there do battle because they're going to come at you just like you came to me the say well how am i going to do it i say well don't do it the way i do it i don't even do it well that way but if you can do it you dancing painting music art by demonstrating how much to do and if any one of those can bring a person closer to the place where the divine resides inside go after it but remember you must sacrifice everything inside of you except your integrity and you do not compromise your integrity for one second with anyone and if they don't like it you see there's the door go and if they can't see what you're dealing with they're never going to see it in terms of your beautiful presentation nor in terms of how professional you are aren't terms of all your vocabulary words all those are smokescreens to your own lack of spiritual knowledge sure the united states has come a long way in terms of technology but i'm not too sure that that's all that smart i'm quite sure that we're a nation really well fed i'm not too sure that we're fed nutritionally i'm sure we're a nation of lots of opportunity but i'm not too sure that opportunities going to take us anywhere until we can start living from the center of our being this as the dynamic dynamic spiritual person not one who sits in the full yoga position chanting only all day long or omani pov meal those are metaphysical rituals or religious counterparts we're talking about that action that's breathing in and breathing out we're talking about that crying that laughing i'm talking about that thing that moves you where you lay down your life for everybody that part where you just be of selfless service that part where they say i need help and you pick them up and you help them not now would you help me but it's like on to the next one and somebody behind you is coming up behind you and they're going to pick up the rest of the rest and somebody in front of you is already helping when you fall they'll come a step on your head because that can never do anything in terms of when do i get mine they're going to get yours just after they stop you and i'm not saying that's nice and that's comfortable but i am telling you that's what it is on this level when you enter into spirit the world will beat your head off and you know you're making progress because you stick your head above the crowd or somebody up there with a little something going to shoot down at you and you know what's so neat those people out there know exactly the right word to say to just cut your energy just like that they can choose one or two words you think my god they didn't know me they hit me right were real and say well don't hide it they had a say all right take the whole thing so he says you lush say gin vodka thirty court today now we're you going to hit me now what are you going to do to destroy me my thing about the bible that said something and it was really i thought was really quite  illusion i don't know what's going on around here i'm drunk all the time thinking that does it i'm always abusing people i don't know what's going on was with think i'm not  say that i know what's going on you just fail in your illusion it's interesting when we fess up the ignorance that we have we become free of maintaining the illusion of knowledge and we're free we actually become relieved of that sin of faults knowledge and we enter into that that they call now you're saved well who knows what that is but we do know what awareness is in fact i've really been having fun with some of the people who follow the christian last they think oh how cute don't get our cell all stuck up on the word of saved you know one of the words in that we learned in english you know to be frugal frugal means saving you know not in terms of the midas approach and then one of the girls in her writing out things in the book or in her class thinking about the girl who was going down the river in the canoe and she lost her or so froebel me you know it's a classic one of save me save me some are saying what's a frugal you know on the new magazine maybe it means this maybe it means that maybe it means this maybe it means that but the thing of it is what must you do i must be aware she's in trouble i got to get rather over here and that's what we're dealing with is getting us out of trouble there and over here and whatever the process is that does that short of hurting anyone and i really mean that and some of you people have the temerity god bless you to come and sit here in the seminars and bitch and complain about somebody next to you and you just missed the boat or somebody smile at you correctly when you walked in the door because i'm jr staff once you turn around and go back out again you know all of these things we think want to be spiritual means you must do all these nice things for me and i can be a son of a gun and get away that mad nonsense to be spiritual means you allow them the leeway of their errors you allow them the moment of them not knowing you give over to them the benefit of not your doubt but the benefit of that possibly something else has distracted them and they could give you all the tension you need princess or your world highness we have to say hey it's ok if you just smile at midnight give the somebody up there behind who really feel they might need it i got a whole lot going because i feel good when i do that and if you don't like it tough because who knows you may not be back tomorrow and i'm not going to feel bad about that i'm going to feel good about where i am right now  course i said that for you three people that are here that did that and you think i don't know it's not just tonight i'm talking about the other night too and it's really important that you got to give up that moment of your self righteousness how great you are to get to how great you are you've got to give up that whole approach of they didn't do this and they didn't do that to go someplace else where people truly appreciate you go somewhere else where they're really going to cater to your demands where they're going to really just keep you right where you are and tell you how wonderful you are and that you die in your own stupidity and you die daily or listen those around who say hey look butterball knock off four hundred pounds take care of that don't spend your money foolishly check things out so you tell a check things out you spend thrift we're talking to you you're broke you're going around watching from everybody save your money they're not telling you anything that's going to hurt you have you ever realize that sometimes people come up to me in the trash truck my ego and i say my god thank you very much  people said made you have enemies i said i hope so i said well why is it they keep me on the straight and narrow they're really my friends because they'll tell me when i get out of line they're really going to tell me and they're going to tell me so forcefully i have nothing to do but change it pain to my best friends or my mother or father when they told me they really told me my dad told me the doubled up fifty dribble me off the floor and ban that was only worth one point though but think about it you know like here's a guy that will give me food and clothing and will go against my mother for me if she thinks she's wrong if you think she's wrong and discipline he'll go against her and explain to her and explain to me why he did that then he beat the hell out of me but something inside said yeah but he's got a good reason for doing that you got helos idea i didn't believe that i was a spoiled rotten spoiled rotten would be corrupt to first say if in your smell your own sweat and stinks and you find out maybe it is rotten just maybe just maybe i better open my eyes and start paying attention and who's going to tell me it's like who knows better keep your eyes open i'm sure many of us  entertained angels unaware that they came in to really tell us what it was and the only way they could get to us was first like to do the jackass you hit in the head with a board to get attention first then when you get attention you tell it what to do and i'm sure we're all going to that stubborn number when you go tell me it's like i'm the guy here with this board is going to tell you and that pain that we have in that is just our own way of telling us you're hanging on to things that are not working for you why are you living back there why don't you get up to write here it's like i'm here and i got the headache i know your headache is bringing you here but why because you're back there so long you forgot to run the blood head they will not step have you ever noticed that that thing you tell the most intimate thing you tell your lover is exactly what they use on  not write anything down think news in court against you love me yet so i'm not telling you this why a large down around to find out what i got i'm here what we got hiding nothing your just saying that that's all i'm doing is just saying if you're going to do something that you can't write down on paper and hand somebody don't do don't care if they tape and even played over the air in the next meeting message or geed as you have to monitor my mouth i know that's what's been giving you trouble all these years your mouth you're always talking always telling people what you think and what they should and shouldn't do now because you're forgiven medical advice you're not a doctor now you've given psychiatric device vice you not a psychiatrist now you hold yourself out for that you're not even that what you just shut up but look at all the help i want to do then go get your education get the necessary papers of their base vote upon that you have this diploma you can do this i'm not going to do it that way i'm special nobody special here nobody's exempt and if you think you are your screwball maybe that's a new type of drink a lot of people seem to be drinking  soon becomes that moment where every one of us have got to watch and be concerned and be responsible even when we don't feel like it is not doing right when we feel like that's a nice thing to do but it's when we do right when we don't want to do right that's when we keep going we think who cares i don't care i'm not going to do and you do it anyway that's integrity that's the part you build that's the part you live in and then when you feel like doing it later on you've already been doing it all along so you don't have to feel bad about the delay and you won't find out that you've been your worst enemy you'll find out you've been your best friend god does it take discipline mark and it often takes hours of finding out that weak point on you that's weak and confront it not with more weakness you don't handle your emotional weakness by freaking out you don't handle emotional weakness by being depressed alright for the dumbing here stop drinking yeah but i like to drink tell them you only take one drink at a time some people one drink is you are the lesser of luscious and alcoholic says oh not you had at least thirty two pints one evening hundred percent proof some things in our lives we've become so sensitive that when we find people getting close to us we know they're going to rip us off some place pay attention to your training your training is part of your spiritual awakening you pay attention to that that paying attention is not commanding your attention your giving your attention so therefore nobody is of distracting you by commanding of you your freely observing your freely watching and that moment you enter into awareness the awareness by its very nature brings you into that moment where you then start that process of applause energy you can do nothing with awareness standing you can do something with a ploy of energy that appears spontaneously when you want awareness is present if you say i'm aware i do this and this we say no no when you're aware you're aware and that awareness allows other things to take place and then you can handle those other things and you handle them from the state of awareness that moment you've entered into freedom but to get off this planet and the soul realm you're not liberated and we teach freedom as a byproduct on the way to liberation and so the end result is always health wealth and happiness not in your terms in terms of it in those terms will vary according to each person of the coming to the world you can have joy have a more abundantly but you must do those things that produce joy to go drive a rolls royce you get rolls royce money you're to enter into those things or produce a rolls royce of you say i don't like that i like a ford and you have to do quite so much in the area and each person will decide from inside of them that in a goal that they want to produce outside but the goal stays inside so as you put out their corrupt and destroy from inside you manifest the goal and you walk to  john rogers closing where it's where they rush they stand which means the blessings already are the blessings the ideas and the concepts which you've heard just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey of a soul call this number one eight hundred eight nine nine two six six five you can send e mail to service desk at m s i a dot o r gene or write to that which is post office box five one three nine three five los angeles california zip code nine zero zero five one dash one three five this has been that which is with john rogers thanks for joining us and love and joy and we can see this land the people on this land living in health well never greater happiness very center of the earth and extending out around the entire planet in this blessing whatever into the clouds and know that this jigsaw puzzle this planet will be complete until every one of them have put part in the picture if we hold back our particular part waiting for the parts to be there before we commit when on earth with this puzzle completed so and maybe what happens is that this puzzle not going to be built from the outside but it's going to be created and finish from the inside of us as we put ours out and people then see how we fit together and we fit with them and they fit with each other and their extensions fit with others like some great tapestry of magic it weaves itself together and we start to go wow there it is i see it again and part of our job is to let ourselves so shine that others want to become part of th puzzle and they put their piece him and what that means is not one soul will be lost but one piece of the puzzle will be missing remember this six magic words i gave years ago god bless you my love you now are adding three more he's the still resides the kingdom of heaven is found by the place of your compassion is found in the place of your loving it's found in the place of your generosity it's found in the place of your healing of yourself and others hold up inside of you bless the exterior sensis bless what you see bless the food you eat bless the body you touch be thankful for the clothing you have have compassion upon this planet it's in need of it but it only can have compassion by someone who carries compassion you carry compassion exercise it through your senses and you walk to it calming to be free we came to rwanda to visit the grilles moon that classic joke or it is a five thousand pound gorilla sleep anywhere it wants to i think that's a more significant statement today that than the joke  meditated on it and tried to see if i could do some sort of contact with it then i did make contact and the information seemed extremely ancient and far far away and even though it was relatively quiet there was the noise of inner space and i don't have it completely verified or validated it said that humans are one experiment and they represent another experiment and there are other experiments that are going on and i asked them where they were the violent and it was no that was what they dealt him and and it was what do you deal in a deal in protection and i said is that is at peace and it was just that as we deal in peace it's a protection of peace and what i kept getting in this communication was such a wise thing and then later on in the observing over it it seemed to my viewpoint that they were exemplifying the wisdom that they were speaking