as only moments ago she's going to summarize it for us yes telly is another collaboration between jason reitman and diablo cody who did you know in a few other films that people probably seen it's about a mother played by pregnant mother played by shill he's there on who will probably all say gained fifty pounds with the rock and she is just about had it she has two older children on has some under diagnosed illness that she behavioral special me works yeah that quirks is what everyone calls it that really really stress her and her husband is a well meaning guy but he tends to resort to finally does and when she does deliver her much wealthier brother wealthier than them wants to contribute to a night nanny to help her he's heard about them he thinks this one has had great references and he's just delighted to be able to present this to his long suffering sister and she and the night nanny eventually develop although initially mistrustful what's a night nanny i don't want anyone in my house they initially they eventually develop a very strong bond very strong and i guess i'll stop there restaurant what if she gets better yes or sort of what do you think this film is about really yeah she was getting up in the middle of an idea he was sleep deprived and she was she was tired and she was you know feeling she was feeling pretty you know the way parents often feel overwhelmed or they reveal natural born postpartum depression sort of thing or an adult in this movie and there is obviously postpartum depression issues in fact there the husband at some point later in the film refers to the fact that she had point of the film was that we don't see these things that they're undetected and the woman has to carry on anyway another words in her case she's tired and that's how everybody reads it but just  there interestingly did you find this interesting the son who seems quirky yeah seems to have autism that's why nobody says it she's he's been there three doctors there's a  here but that's not it's not magic you know if it's not talked about in a way that the audience might yet recognize it because we we all know children who i mean i think it's odd that he goes through this whole film and diagnosed i think if you just talk about being interesting speaking about when i speak about class for a moment that old two older children are attending a private school right that the older brother pulled strings to be able to get them into and that private school does not really have resources for children with special needs right they say that your child really needs to have an aide but we don't have aid a public school where his needs are met but they're very i think in part of the tension in their marriage is that she has a much more successful older brother who has lots of money and has a certain kind of lifestyle and that in a way they both feel a little inferior when they go over for dinner if they don't have the things that he has that they're not able to give their children what he's giving them and he's giving them something that's quite outside the mainstream of america there are much more typical couple and in fact they don't seem to be wealthier brother and he and his brother j j plas do not look at all alike but he looks so much i don't like her husband that you begin to wonder whether there is some psychological thing going on so that he was cast because there's a kind of well because there's it might be someone to be married to somebody like roger very very successful brother or perhaps her father will or her brother who got out of their very bad childhood situation yeah that's what she was trying to do i think trying to get out also and she saw this brother do it and she married someone looks just like him i thought they looked very much i don't know that that was but yes but it's an interesting question because the family dynamics you don't get very much information that they refer to their child is being chaotic and deprived in my much more serious way than  than the middle class families deprived but you don't get a lot of that and that may explain some of the psycho dynamics of unknowns both men say privately to their respective wives he hates me yeah right right  don't bother him well that it was going somewhat why he missed the you the symptoms of postpartum depression going on yeah he's not paying attention but she didn't seem to be labor and i mean she didn't seem to press him that much about it it seems like she's kind of insular in her own problems and doesn't the burden herself on to the degree where the degree of what's going on with her she seems incredibly easy going she doesn't you're right she another movie might have had success in problem but she she's just restrained enough so that nobody recognizes what's happening with him it's like she's bottling it up but she only lets it out after she leaves the counselor's office right we're trying mightily to avoid where this film winds up you know as i saw were you shocked at the ending the as after the last five minutes where you somehow i mean you get the picture bawling when he says one word ye went into the film because of juno and so yeah oh yeah i think it was going to be funny yeah and they did it and it was at the beginning i unfortunately i went to showing it which they were i believe three or four other people in the audience and it's hard to get a laugh that's where i it started really when they say what that when and when they're almost alone here so in fact one of the one of the people and when i walked in there was a couple just a couple sitting there and they said i'm sorry there's no r there was no room and they actually walked out really before the ending yes no kidding yes they grumbling during that i think i think it may have been that they may have come in with my expectations thinking it was going to be funny and you know pretty much one third of the way through it gets serious yeah it because she starts on burdening herself too and how is the night now about all of her dreams that have been you know put on hold because of the children and her exploitive frustrations and hey she used to be you know carefree and she used to have dreams that she was going to do something important in the world and and it got it got scariest and it and then there's just terrible our whole accident and i thinking what what just happened this is a dream i know it yeah they don't act good yeah you know i and the situation with the little boy it gets worse and worse and worse until until they find a solution but that is also not funny no actually has to travel for work and leave her alone with three small children is it's a tough situation and you know some of the advertising for this that i've heard seems to suggest connection i saw with juno is sit at the end of june oh she goes through with putting her giving her baby up for adoption and then revert people at the time criticize the film for the fact that she reverted almost immediately to a carefree  teenage years that she was two weeks later strumming her guitar with her boyfriend and as you know nothing is as if nothing had happened and people said you know when it is when that someone gives up a child for adoption it's not it's not no strings attached it's and in the movie implied that it was the chief who just revert back to her teenage life and not suffer any regrets or consequences and  in this film it's that if she had the baby you know that that possibly she would have had morse serious problems compare this to that earlier film in yeah and a little bit more cynical perhaps or not something that's maybe that's not the right word but a little bit harsher or tired a little less optimistic she's just tired the right i think i think a little less optimistic because people get criticised you know for being too optimistic about how how how problem free and adoption might be and this film motherhood is shown as being a tough a tough thing right but the but the overall i mean the the things i read on i m d b chat tended to say that people were disappointed or actually critical of the fact that this was not named this mental problem this problem she had was not named it was neither was the boy's election named and that they were trying to have their cake and eat it too let's make this be somewhat light hearted but on the other hand terribly serious subject but then if you gave it a name if you gave each of these a name it would become a sort of political film or a film with an agenda right and maybe by not naming it you leave it to you know just the nature of things that happen without giving it right of a jury shelly's thier and character says herself it's more like a lifetime movie if you do that if you you know if you're going to dwell on that it becomes a lifetime movie  but i felt i didn't particularly like you know i have to tell you louise you know i'm going to go look at the old tape he was at then yeah that's right and i think it was because i found the character just annoying annoyingly smart and smarmy and kind of too smart alec here i get a much more sense of a real person i mean a woman with problems and and no kidding around about this so maybe some people who thought this was too serious and walked out of the theater thinking this is a little too heavy for me maybe that was the with the way they felt although there was some leavening of humorous lines here and there we all kind of that we're going to they walk out before the twist are yeah i mean i agree with you i i what i liked you know because i found it started when the refreshed you yeah and it's different this i don't find that way in fact sure i don't we can't talk about the agree that that naming either problem would put it in a box in a sense that it's not in this because in the sense that any woman who had two children under eight or whatever i think she said the older child is eighteen the younger one was six or something five or six and she had a full time job and she had a full time job i think any any woman in that situation with a husband who travels a lot for his business  s going to have some stress in her life and by saying oh it's it's x physical problem it's postpartum depression give her a pill everything will be fixed limits it to not look at the situation of every woman who is breastfeeding in the middle of the night and getting up and making lunches the next day and all those are the kinds of things and having maybe having a child who's having some problems in school and and you know it's it's it's something that movies have been a lot about molech goes back to bob's first question what was the point of the film is it to to to depict women in this situation or is it to depict what happens when one has postpartum depression and it is not recognized those because those are two different movies i don't know that they are two different movies because the point that they're not being recognized is that that may be lo if people don't recognize the fact that when the husband comes home at one point which is played for laughs when she is serving frozen pizza to the kids while sitting in her chair looking absolutely wiped out and tired there janet i do because it gets back to is this is this funny is this being played for laughs or is this dark and if it's a post partum depression film if it's really about recognizing this that's a pretty dark thing if it's about all the things that we women went through when we worked full time and we had two children under three and all of this you look back on it it's like colic you look back on oh and i still remember college about forty years ago it's awful when you go through it it's awful you think you're going to kill yourself and then it's over and it becomes a matter of a little bit of a you know like a little different conversation piece or something to the rest of your life i mean i don't think they work in the tired right and that is a court of recalculating the entire thing terms of someone who has a serious mental right issue rather than someone who just hired something i heard charlie's there i heard her interview with her you may have heard it in which she said something really interesting in addition to putting on the fifty pounds which is absolutely in my mind stupid since they are now finding that actors who do that can have a long term health no then she had to take it off right and then she went into her first depression ever because she all of a sudden found herself in the situation that many people are in which is you've got to lose weight you have to she was pressured to lose weight pressured and she felt so depressed she was tired she was lugging in thirty pounds around that she hadn't had eating nothing but junk food yes that's  what i didn't know about the depression thing but i thought it was a bad idea for yeah sounds and i did worry about that yeah and she looks like she did yeah think of a five pound bag of flour and multiply know i one thing i didn't like about this was these montages with pop songs in the background they're one and the re yeah one is bad enough two three come on there were montages with these stupid pop songs which have no relevance to my life i don't like them i don't care about them and that so distracted me that i ended up feeling i really don't like this movie ok and my husband i went with my husband and he came out saying that was so no interest know i didn't like it as much as i thought i would what i did like was the performance mackenzie davis who played tully i've seen her in holding catch fire on t v series excellent actor so i'd love to