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we're going to be honored to hear from her in a minute we're going to talk to kelly keene she's an oncology nurse twenty seven years of experience as well as matthew gordon one of the top experts in the world on streams where this is going you have to be aware as the country begins to recognize that not only will medical cannabis organic medical cannabis help possibly remove nuclear contamination from the human body from human tissues possibly medical cannabis fibers me actually repel seeing the rain coming from fukushima that's now contaminated the entire northern hemisphere a lot involved here so it may get into organic as you begin to realize that this is a giant industry i'm sure the insurance companies are reviewing where they can fit in with this and we're looking at about a two hundred twenty billion dollar industry by next year potentially allegedly you have to realize that this is something that's covering a whole wide expanse of growth economic growth one hundred thousand jobs in the state possibly several possible million jobs in the country try to imagine possibly thirty percent of your convalescent centers whatever will have medical cannabis will how do you get it to him how do they get it how do they get authorized surely any industry you guys have not a rare absurd like of mention that there are people taking notes of what we bring out on this program and we hope to be able to influence at the right direction as we begin to hear from these this panel on this discussion of organic medical cannabis how it fits into the nursing college each part of the whole medical rule because we're getting a lot of interest from different hospitals here in the northwest now where does this all go it's obvious that we have to write the laws they don't know how to write the laws governments just to a filing system who are the people that can write the laws it's us the people that are doing it experienced out working it and help work as advisory maybe they are king county or new sheriff john her card which we have the greatest respect for but we have met this week to under intel and i and keith keith we went to meet with the new governor don met him briefly we met we also met with bob ferguson a new secretary of state we brought up the subject of what is it that they need to we think they need to be aware of that we would like to talk to more of them are about to help them help construct this organic medical cannabis patient care system it's in our laps now who's going to do it who's going to baby step when they created the natural foods organic foods legislation  it's the nation in a sense we're laying the groundwork out for what will or is going to become united states code now the question i'm going to bring up here as we bring up the panel is what can we all do to contribute to this how are error all the different margins of productive capabilities in jobs in marc in this it's judge gannett it gets bigger it gets bigger and it gets bigger and if we are working with patty murray which i hope to be able to meet with us we can submit what we're trying to do in contributing to this c gardens was to meet the need because there was at that time absolutely no place that a patient could get organic medicine unless they were growing it themselves which course most patients are not able to do either because of their living situation or their physical situation you know people are really sick that's why they need cannabis and many of them cannot grow themselves although if they can we certainly encourage them and give them all the support we can they have them do that being able to advise institutions hospitals almost people like that reading the groundwork for future college programs future doctors have this simply absolutely this opens a whole bag of tricks  what i have seen in thirty years of oncology is a lot of pain and suffering that has occurred and i've seen a lot of new drugs come in and i've worked on first line chemotherapy is i know how the pharmacology companies work and what they need what type of information i mean the state is really going to have to step up or maybe the pharmaceutical compan unfortunately you know i'm a nurse for thirty years so the pharmaceutical suitable companies have been sometimes i question their ethics let's just say let's just say it that way and  thirty years of on college experience i know that my patients have used marijuana throughout that whole thirty years most of the drugs that the pharmaceutical companies have for side effects of the chemotherapy is are have so many side effects that you have to weigh out what type of side effect medications you're going to give because they can have more side effects than what you're trying to control so i've seen to lose hundreds if not thousands of patients benefit from the use of marijuana and edibles and in smoking form i always suggest to my patients that they use some type of water pipe because what you're going to get from the medical profession is we don't so much care about the marijuana part but it's going to be the actual intake of ash into the lung that the medical community is not going to agree with so this is another area that needs research and i think our friends here are way ahead of anything i know in the field and i do know that the many strains that are coming out have such potential to alleviate so much human suffering and after thirty years of oncology i tell you th when you see people suffering you'll do just about anything to stop that suffering especially if it's your loved one or your family that is why i am here as a medical professional for thirty years and i don't know how the state's going to feel about me not talking about this but it is america still and i think it's really important that we can lay down a foundation like any type of research  come in and let's set up a system and have the facts and figures that we need to help people in our society did you kill a did you ever work with any patient who use cannabis to actually cure their he answer rather than just simply using it to alleviate some of the more immediate and horrific results of being poisoned no i haven't i haven't  much a no no but i've been talking to you and i knows it's happened it's happened it's fact it's documented and this is the type of stuff that we need to go forward with immediately while we have the chance who knows who's going to be in x time the election process comes around and we need to get our facts and numbers down as mediately this is i don't think that there's a more important herbal compound that we can be working with that we have access to that we do have the starts of some documentation and research i've been talking to you about what you're doing i'm not supposed to look at people ho and if anybody would like to contact me i am all of my doors always open to people that need help or guidance and how i have used and guided my patients to use marijuana with their cancer fights and i'd like to learn more about what you you know exactly this is why we need the research guys so that everybody knows what i'd like to  a lot of people have tried marijuana you know and didn't like it and there's even up to sixty percent of the john land owner of one of the biggest  labs testing facilities in california told me that over sixty percent of the people with the parkinson's that tried edible doses of a certain specific strain that helps with parkinson's over sixty percent of them they got so high that they said they'd rather just deal with the parkinson's so what i'd like to know and that's where research comes in well there's new strains now i mean that are coming out that there's literally no discernible high with all the medicinal benefits and i and people are getting there's really clear headed strains that i mean you're not going to get intoxicated at all you're not going to get groggy or anything more cloudy s it was undoubtedly the wrong kind of cannabis and the wrong amount this is one of the reasons so adamant that there needs to be regulatory  agency or people or whatever in place because there are so many people out there there are so many doll to say it how it is there are drug dealers who think they died and went to heaven because they can open a store front and they do harm to patients they don't know anything about parkinson's and they don't care anything about work and since they don't throw anything about in mess they don't care about him as what they care about is separating people from their dollars and they need to be gone so that truly medical and facilities that can give the information and knowledgeable but tenders knowledgeable people bit you wouldn't want to go into a pharmacist and and have somebody well i don't know what this is for it take it  would you go would you go to war tales a say i really want i want the prettiest pill you've got today that's what i've got i know what we do we say what is it you are dealing with today it might not be the same issue you were dealing with yesterday most of us have maybe one or two or three kind of chronic things we're dealing with and then there's other things that kind of crop up so we wanted to know what is it you're looking forward to day that's going to alleviate q or fix whatever whatever path it is or whatever condition it is that's what we need to know you may have a headache but you might also be having kidney problems and so that's a whole different conversation we're going to have with you that's a whole different strain we're going to have with you so that's why we need to have people who are maybe we need to get wood i can see down the road in the not too distant future licensing and certification for people that are working with cannabis because there are just way too many people out there that really don't know anything and unfortunately with fibro too we've kind of put in a very uncomfortable or awkward years kind of silly position you know that the liquor control board who are people who don't know anything about cannabis and yet we're expecting this set up a whole infrastructure sure without any kind of knowledge is that as to how to do it and so it's kind of a pitiful situation they're in right now i heard that they were asking for a cannabis expert  there are now there's quite a few people in town who would like to lay claim to that title is far is you want you know expertise in what aspect of cannabis and that's that's it you know if you want to know about strain development we're probably sitting right here with the the expert if not it in the states or in moon maybe the whole country you know in terms of strain selection ok that's one area of expertise but then there's other areas of expertise or many areas of expertise so they need more than just an expert because this is the this is the problem with the marrow of the mare and all that we're using for patients now is that it's a tablet it's a set both once you take that pill there's no going back and i've had patients that came in and were just i'm too stoned i'm too stoned it's first of all this is why we need will marry no resort first of all here and all this poison it in this has nothing to do with cannabis it is an artificial reenactment of one component of cannabis that is not cannabis so i you know what i say is that that's that ought to be on schedule one i really kill people the only the only reason the is good for is as an insurance policy policy if you have a sensitive job you don't put it in your body yes if you if you need if you need this suppose it been a fits of mehran all use cannabis you can use it in a variety of federations or is much more than smoking we have many patients who never have and never will smoke anything in their life although many patients do incorporate smoking as least part of their treatment but there are t orioles there are camps there are a number of ways of extracting the active can and of boyd's from big plant itself and put it into a concentrated form that does not require smoking sometimes doesn't require e t s just maybe taking a capsule it can be in a beverage there's just many many ways of getting this into your system without smoking so you know patients with like lung cancer they're not they're going to be want to smoke in anything place you can't smoke enough just to cure cancer you really need to go with the program and you certainly feel free to give us a call it choice wellness center were very very happy to help any cancer patient look at the options if they were not saying this is what you have to do but make it one of the stops of looking at the options i i feel very badly for people who only make a one stop shop they go to th they go to the hospital the oncologist scares the livin the dickens out of them and they let them poison them and chop them up and fry them and butcher them in it and that maybe that is necessary but most of the time i  believe it is not that there are alternatives or combination of combined mode allergies that are much better off for the patient john hopkins is already come out with a study that a lot of the  diagnosed in early stage are completely over treated and that your body isn't fluctuation in your lymph nodes that's what they do they swell up when you have an infection and little things like that that are coming out where we've really been over treating with toxic poisons for cancers and one of the biggest breakthroughs and cancer in the last twenty years has been a tree out of india so how did  pharmacology company get a tree out of india and have it making them billions of dollars a year we need to start from the ground maybe the pharmaceutical companies that work with america all would come in and put some money and to some legitimate research for cannabis use and i'm in a better way and i don't even i think i think five years ago i want to venture really fast this whole thing is going to go into expanding into many other things than just cannabis people realize that although matthew is you will see this is the beginning of something something that will go into the whole realm of cures meaning well we're we're on the groundwork of going up a major global pharmaceutical crimes and again let's put cream g m o some hybrids that have been a research major lawsuit right now in china where they used to experiment on chinese children in the children were dying i want to mention that it gets we have to bring up the subject that we have to stand our ground is gone you have in the advocacy we have to stand your ground to be able to say enough is enough now we have a right to heal ourselves to cure ourselves and also be able to help yourselves with nuclear contamination prevailing throughout the whole northern hemisphere we have to do something and we're right don you're helping lead the way well i certainly hope so because there's just the stupidity of mankind is the server overwhelming at times in terms of the way we were destroying the very structure that we need to live at which just as of course we destroy each other like crazy too i mean there was a study so many years ago with rats where it was discovered that when you are when you take rats and you put too many of them in too small a space they will start to eat the each other and i think that has happening too often in our own society right now where we're just too jammed in a knot we're so isolated even in big cities people are totally anonymous and it that's just not a healthy place to be so we need to take it take time to take a breath smell of flowers as they say and get to know each other and really commune with each other not just on electronic devices but personally we have to do that we need it our plants need it matthew and i've been talking a lot about about the relationship that we have with this miracle plant and how it responds so incredibly to us and to our needs and how we can help work with this and actually have what a concept like everybody would have their own little designer cannabis plant in their kitchen window you know this is just phenomenal and the only thing that's stopping that happening is the very things that made cannabis illegal to begin with and that's racism and bishan and greed and nothing has changed except the names of a few of the players in the last hundred years and as a society as rational karine human beings we need all of us to rise up and not allow this to continue anymore we have to get this off of the schedule so that people like matthew and many and his contemporaries and other people can follow along and help matthew and help the visionaries in getting this in place where we truly can have this where you a magic just being able to take  common cold wow i have made the most incredible tonic for rejuvenating kidneys wow share this we can all be well we can be helpful we can be productive in this world and we can even save the world well the world's going to exist it's just a matter of whether we're going to be here at it or not i think is what it boils down to maybe that's not such a bad idea quick that the way that we're going about this on it's going to need someone to work as an advisory which is like somebody stepped forward to help create an architect and as we mentioned we're going to medical cannabis patient your system and clearly right or to have your today to be able to discuss this openly as to how it could be built into also medical systems that were right and he done them right or one of the things that we've always wanted to do it choice wellness center and the reason that we have you know several cannabis related companies is because one of them that we want to have is to do scene education for credits dr education for credits have looked have a school for c n a s and have it included with the whole holistic doctor who was an osteopath and an et now i love that because everything isn't a pill and everything isn't surgery having a more rounded background in education can be very helpful at times you know what i'd like to see is with in care patients in care personally with the cannabis is people who need specialized medicine for their own per personal themselves and so a lot of the people are so sicker or feeble that they just can't do it in plus it's something new and they don't know how to doing and so i would love to see people that come patient specifically tries each plant because every time you grow plants from seed it's like a human being as snowflake they're all different and i'd like to see these patients sampling and finding the one that is should best setting their needs it and then and then maybe the next couple generations they can do it on their own but it just takes a short period of time to midnight only got two minutes left for this segment we hope to have some worse broadcasting here on the subject  bring up some of the interviews we do at the state capitol on the sixteenth of january this year but go ahead matthew just give us one last statement up bring up your c g s for everybody to know how you know i just it's something that  they said that pot feeds birds it feeds the bees and humans it retains or freshwater shores creates oxygen reverses greenhouse gases absorbs and shields us from radiation fears most modern diseases prolonging the life improves the for the benefit of every patient that has to go through chemotherapy we need to step up to our research this is a big employment opportunity for nurses to get into the state and start doing the research that we need to help our patients  gone keep it organic if it's not organic it's poison they can enter it in call it two zero six six eight two three zero one five we're open seven days a week just one last bit of advice for the liquor board what do you think where do you think they should start  i will i not in colorado let's keep it here let's to talk to a variety of people from various and realize that there is not one expert there are people knowledgeable people in a variety of areas of i she can help you advise you we're putting together the the medical cannabis patient care system which i'll bring up right here and that's something that we all have to know about because that's what's going to be considered now right don that's the way they're going to see it right  it is all the live this is our segment of a segment of a very large industry that's about to transcend across the united states and north america even mexico is thinking about this it's called the organic medical cannabis patient care system i'm sure the insurance industries are going crazy with this a bit that you can't understand how many people this whole thing is like the open open old west so where we had how do we create a ground work how do we do try to find this well that's why we bring panels of people who are experts getting be recognized discussing sharing their notes putting an idea a plan that would be called the organic medical cannabis patient system but let's say you've got to get liquor board that's going to reinvent this whole thing or invent it as they call it it will bring up the background some articles referring to that but we have industries beverage industries coming in from out of state pharmaceutical companies training their pharmacists to become medical cannabis pharmacists massive stuff happening blood going to be going to transcend but in the meantime that's where we bring these panel ok clay and i've been at it for about thirty years so i've seen it go through many many stages and a lot of suffering of course in politics plays big role in that but here on the west coast i've had quite a few patients that have been given prescriptions for medical marijuana and it's just a hassle for them to try to find it you know where do i find it kelly where do i get it there are a lot of different reactions and everybody can react to every single drug differently there are a lot of drugs that are used now in oncology that are just not up to par they have so many side effects that you have to outweigh the nausea for the twenty other side effects that you're going to get with the drugs they're very expensive if you don't have a  expensive a lot of insurance companies want to give the patients a hard time about this type of stuff and it's time for us to get up into the twenty first century take care of our patients the way that we know that we can and the way that they want to be tak care of go ahead matthew well i just as far as the liquor board taking over i think that we need to focus on proper labeling of the medication instead of just some white white widow or haze kush whatever oh gee i mean because you can buy twenty different twenty different places and it's all going to be different it needs to have a chemical analysis on there that way if somebody takes a strain that's extremely specifically beneficial to them at least they know the chemical composition of it so no matter what the name is they can always get the same staff now this i just feel like just calling it marijuana i mean some stuff knocks you out unique and how it reacts to that person so there needs to be you know the people who are advisers to patients as to the amount to take in what kind of specific strains and maybe big potential and this is why i started talking to don is if we're going to do this legitimately we've got to bring in the bucks like i say get over to fred hersch put some money in there get some nurses in there get them trained  do the education that don was talking about out you know and i'm a little intimidated by i don't know what you guys are talking about but i've seen what months and i did with corn and my worst fear is that the up to par so this is where if the state is going to make this happen they need to get they need to hire people like myself and other nurses and get them on board with the research protocols a what is going to help with nausea what's going to help with diarrhea what's going to help with appetite and if if we're serious about it this is the way it's going to have to go it's going to have to go through this as we're beginning to know many of these things that you just mentioned in fact we have a she had a choice wellness center that we give every patient who comes in that lists about thirty of thirty ailments and what we know at this point that did the can it can and avoids from cannabis can be helpful for those particular things it's just a drop in the bucket it's not nearly as much as we should have it's very difficult for me to carry the burden of one myself though we need more help we need more information as rodale said many years ago you can know ninety nine point nine nine percent of a plant and you don't know the planet all because it can be that one hundredth of one percent that's the catalyst that makes all the rest of it work that's what i feel about cannabis that's why i'm such an advocate for the whole plan for getting that somebody way smarter than me created this plan and just because i'm to stupid to know everything and it does not mean that's the most important thing for my will be in my health in my life so we need to take the whole plant we need to keep it pure we cannot allow the pharmaceutical companies to convolute it and pull one little thing oh this is a c b and ok we're going to make this out of poison and throw that out like it's good for people no it's not synthetic t h c is not good for anybody for anything there is absolutely no reason for anybody to ever take this stuff a cup of of cannabis tea can be so soothing and can can help somebody that's having an appetite nausea problems and there other things other than chemotherapy that give people  well when i talk to most medical professionals about marijuana they completely dismiss it and is not taken seriously in the medical profession and that's why we need the research that i just cannot push that enough we need the money for research get into fred hersch get into into some legitimate or what you know government considers legitimate organizations get the facts so that we can help our patients and help humanity and i know that sounds corny but it's the absolute truth i don't believe that we're going to see as much preparation from them it's a very big corporate operation but i do see the insurance companies developing into where they can make their profits and they're right don mentioned that many times yes i have well because here's here's the situation my situation four hundred thousand dollars to butcher me fifteen thousand dollars to not  know i did it for the health reason but look at the saving it's amazing now i can understand insurance companies are going to say i'm not paying for that guy's pot that's part of the problem we can't we've got two different life lifes going on here two different two different topics we're talking about we're not talking about mine somebody you know i don't even like they used to use the term recreational but just for adult usage but medically it could save the insurance companies an incredible amount of money as well as saving patients a tremendous amount of pain and having their organs ruined so it to me it seems when when if they can the insurance companies will separate themselves from the pharmaceutical companies maybe we can get some headway with them and i think that is just it's going against nature itself it's almost like saying ok it's illegal for everyone to eat spinach now right i mean it's just goes against maybe it's a crime against nature itself to take a species food and medicine for millions of you know how old are humans how old is the planet that's how old the symbiotic relationship between cannabis and humans is so when you take that away you're just asking for medical problems you're just you're just incurring a cancer and epidemic on the world and so i mean we just need to turn around and say look it was a mistake we're at the very last moment of this program but i appreciate it matthew seven days a week from eleven to eight every day but sunday from one to five are some of you who also have authorizations the cheapest in the state right nature's medical group is right next door and we have always been the low cost leader we brought the price down two and a half years and intend for it to stay that way i so appreciate everybody watching and this is the all the live show kelly kean thank you very much for being on the show thank you as well matthew i appreciate that and that's your contact or excuse me up here that's matthew stay tuned we need your help we also need donations you can send donations as well to one four zero three eight sunnyside avenue north seattle ninety one three three or check up on all the live on e bay you can proceed to submit it to my people account we are acceptable only getting donations we're trying to help community we've been doing this on 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