company new jersey is you know where i was born the last the lines so to speak is that that that was that at the time that the u s surpassed britain  noticed the chart the chinese had a presence and north america so i want to advise them and at that time they were interested in reform and were interested in restructuring the  been a state owned single power system into an industry of competing eternities know so that's that's it's during that time that we had our initial interviews and so on and and that was the reason i went to china i world war relationship with japan which was a little bit adversarial to put it mildly and so forth in the nd war and so forth and what has been the traditional relationship between japan and china let's say over the many decades or centuries in terms of that part of the world could you send a little bit on that it's not very well understood by many of us here in the united states but we can also arms of what they are as it relates to the the west or to protect the united states well you know good history relations with japan between japan and china is a little complicated but  get it of it'll be ok let's just start on from there and what you were saying was very interesting but that's an interesting part of the world you seem to understand it from a not only a political context but f a from a business got intact as well that part of the world china japan korea in a sense and it's it should be well more understood because that's a major part a power structure of the world in rich rich story going back many contributions and now under the under the current system it's what is the political reality you know the japanese sort of almost ritual thing the japanese notion where i was in china the imperial system represent everything it references the system of government or government there's a whole cultural baggage that and a whole social system and a mentality of control so i would just defend has never changed so you know the attempt for the two to develop a there's no such thing as objective truth that's what serves or scale in terms of in terms of population but they have a big problem with the same population growth problem not the chinese the china can't observe the multiple china i think it's more so in china because china is the because that's the party's mindset whether it exaggerates that but you know similar propositions you know we have been brazil in these other developing econom construction as opposed to usage and so on but less that's the case in canada i mean in china and when you think about you you also think about things like governance and so on how  moving in the direction of opening markets so on and they join with trade organization so forth but they still try to practice burke and to with and manipulation and control you was there for about ten years that you were out there you were living there and i remember you picked up when it was a big move on your part it must have been very informative and educat experience to live through that and so forth and now you picked up the language and you understand the culture and what are your overall feeling for your time and your sense of relationship to the country of china element of a national economy yes well well let me say that the chinese education system the higher education system was written histories so they originally had universes they have a chemical  the during during many years it became increasingly clear that foreigner  me television so forth with the country what was your overall feeling as you saw all these things developing and why did you ever the idea i'm going home to brooklyn or back to new york city or something where you were experiencing all that that that that what was that which was going on and i just i was thinking ahead in those terms are there i was there and you know in the so it's it's you know it's not the financial crisis happened but you know chinese leadership doesn't react on a dock that doesn't turn well it took them a couple years a couple years to shake out within the i never met anybody in china who said his wife ambition was to be a communist party official and so i am i never met anybody that kind of ambition you know however i oh so so now so what's with what chinese want is continued economic yes but if they don't get the economics for that eventually reach a stage where you unfortunately we've come to the end of this particular segment of the program to take up another piece of it but it's really incredibly interesting view of that part of the world and i thank you very much for being back here in united states of america and reporting this to it clear understanding of what the reality is there and i thank you very much for that bob and good you let's say to do another program to follow up on this if you don't mind ok yes  programs we're doing with them on the situation as he understands it's having been ten years and do you speak chinese fluently now you know pretty i'm quantrell new guy and you've got it down the poetry and everything can you hour that's ok just get a tune everyone thank you very much will be coming back with the nd hour and a day following they will be viewing of this program thanks a lot ok thanks a lot for viewing look you straight in the eye ladies and gentlemen i've been listening to my friend across the world in there and but thank you you will be coming back again ok ok