right so for our guests that are joining us for the first time this is part two of a really fascinating conversation we've been having but it really is example i think you're an excellent example of what the like to point out community is all about it's about taking that step you know moving from way from what you are familiar with comfortable in this next part of your life and finding your using your passions your talents your skills to find purpose and live a fulfilling like to point out which really was the result i found of the like to point out community has a role it's all to my journey my journey being that i was downsized from the pharmaceutical industry and took the retirement package but i knew i was and then retire but at the same time had no clue did what i wanted to do so in the course of trying to find my way and people talking to me who are either going to be downsize or retiring in asking me what are you doing you know how are you you surviving i actually developed the like to point o community which is provides programs with seminars and workshops to help help women professional women and i'm going to say we you know we pretty much target the baby boomer generation because that's what we are but it certainly is relevant for you know the generation x women and even younger women to say you know what what are my talents and my skills that i have that are transferable what's my passion how can i use all of that to define my purpose in this second part of life so for us the second part of life is what we call the new and retirement because right baby boomers we don't like the word retirement but you know for that person that's generation x they could be going through midlife crisis you know their you know the kind of and now they're your passion their purpose because i truly believe your purpose or hope is as mrs serve others right so right but it also it also while serving others help it's fulfilling yes  that's very fulfilling and and you find your your mission here in life right exactly and i think in the end that's what we all want to do we want to know that i like mattered i want to know that i made a  merck we developed an amazing friendship we are you know sister friends you know which is she's not my just my friend but she's the next best thing to my sister big a sister and  you know we have taken this journey of life together not just with work but with family and kids heard her daughter my daughter are two months apart so they're friends from the womb and she's just been there for me through all the ups and downs of life and i think vice versa with her so we've been going to continue our discussion with her yeah yes so i think we left off with really talking about our kids right  people who just joined in marissa being part of the pharmaceutical industry and you can tell us a little bit in what you did and then what you're doing now to go from there so i am a pharmacist by training and then i joined pharmaceutical industry and stayed there over thirty three years at that point i decided that it was my time to move on into something different and i decided to do patient advocacy and the reason why i decided to do that is because i have a passion to help people and i feel that there a very very huge need in that community and i felt that i could be quite resourceful and useful to these people and in terms of you know what how do i know because i know that i like to help people and i know because i took your family members and i saw your what was the lacking that i knew that there was a big need and i feel that now the need is even bigger because the health care health care you know she has extensive knowledge of the medical community and diseases and so forth so she's combined those corporate skills right and now they're part of her life two point zero skill which you know which is this me quite a bit in my new journey because when i speak to health care professionals like doctors and nurses i know what i'm talking yeah so they know that you know you know i know what i'm talking about i'm not just you know writing to talk and i asked the right questions and most of the patients don't so important as we you know transition into life two point zero because the first part of life as we said we go through and we don't really have we have to go to school we have to get a job we have big family we have to raise kids send them to college and now it's kind of like our time it's what i do for us our kids are grown we've passed on what we needed to pass on to now we don't really want to sit in the rocking chair on no watch t v you know with a blanket no that's not an option so you know we've passed you know we've we've done our job right correct in raising our kids and giving them the skill set that they need right and now we it's time it's our time to do what we want to do and what we enjoy doing because that's the big that's the big thing it's not just to do something it's to do something that you can join to and you have a passion for doing right yes so we left off you and i were there and we've reached that stage but we try to pass our skill sets on to them so that they know how to deal with so let's talk about some let's identify some of those skill sets the we've tried to train our children or make them aware of and then we know that incorporate there's going to be this big void the mean you've talked to here you are very bold about them and so let's let's try to discuss that a little you know one of the things that i did because i always said to my kids i know what it's like to have a job that you not happy about you know yet crazy about so i raise my kids just to say really do something you love doing and i think i always kind of talk about my son allen as an example because from a little kid he had you know lego's every lego i could got under the sun and he was always building something he even had a little architect architecture kit my son is an architect and he loves he's doing what he loves doing i think he tapped into that very early on that the need to build harbor he figured that one out as a kid but he loves doing it right my daughter has a natural talent i think for numbers and logic so she's an accountant and she's you know working with my husband and his business but he's often said to me she's just a natural at it right so the fact that i told them to happen to what you love tap into those natural things that's what i would give as my my advice right you know we find this skill right right you know because like jackie said my daughter always said to me i know i want to be medicine but i don't know what i want to do she says but i like helping people i like i like you know giving them making the view better my daughter is a physician assistant and that's what she was meant to be to do right because she was you know very compassionate and you know sometimes she calls me a night at the end of the day she works long shifts and she goes mom it was a hard day but you know what this is what i was meant to do yeah i love what i have although it's hard work i love like you know my mind my niece is also a p s a and they just did a mission trip to another country where they go t going i'm not doing that bad because you know what i'm hearing that we're saying something to our kids that we do not hear from our parents right give them permission to be explore and to discover yes that you're right but now our generation is saying now we're adding one other layer to that i feel is that yes you have to study and yes you have to find a job because  you need to make sure you're also happy right exactly and that was never a factor where no no no no no no no no the other thing that has changed quite a bit is technology yes between texting i mean we check i mean and i think kids and i think technology is great don't get me wrong but i think kids are so what happened to a simple conversation everything is texting well yeah he hears of the interesting part about that we're going to i guess that's kind of leading us into o next question we talk about our generation and you know what we bring to the table in our skills and at acknowledging our schools that you know we've had conversations with h r we've had our guess that have been on the show and i think one of the things that's consistent with all of the conversations we've had is that they're now saying with this baby boomer generation we truly retard when you're gone there is a huge void of specific talent recognize that you know finding ways to hold on to baby boomers allowing them if they want to stay in corporate give them more flexibility give them more choices this is probably a good way of addressing that but i'm not a but you know i am always amazed that these rules that say you must retire at sixty five when we have you know people working to working  seventy five it makes no sense so you see that again goes back to what we talk about this new on retirement because for us you know we done shown on shows studies are so forth we don't we this new on retirement really is so when we look at the snow and retirement really is you know taking time once you do make the decision to retire you're going to you know the studies have shown this like this two year period of of just relaxing and kind of just unwinding winding but then after that i  am yours life right and then for like the next seven years or so we go back out into the working on retirement kind of world either doing volunteer and going to school starting a business because we want to still be productive we we know we can we have skills and so forth that allow us to continue to be productive yeah so so so what do you think are some of the  skills that are missing from the texting generation that's good you know i think i don't feel they talk anymore what happened to conversation i mean i look i mean i text too but i mean they'd that's their life i mean they so phones now we have you know so and the cell phones that we have now are not flip phones you know the i phone you know so we've moved on we've moved on and it's so silly and i i have to tell the story i have to tell the story when or you know look on the computer before you had to think about is what you were going to write and now you just go to the computer and just remembered the book the days of the encyclopedia oh my god yes now we right but you know and i think yeah but if you think about the steps that the logic of the steps that you have to go through you have to go to the library if you didn't have some at home get a library card get a library card know how to area because i think they rely on that computer and and it's not it's not even a computer it's the phone there that he has into it because every line every year they have the thing is that the finger to yes i understand that when we went to school we did learn things that maybe right it doesn't kind of like yeah you know die out kind of thing so so let me ask you you know in your new in your patient advocacy business as you continue this journey  of of life to point out what are some of the things that you still feel are so important to support you moving forward i think networking is them is probably the biggest ok i have to continue networking and reaching out and this person turned you on to this person's inspirations i think probably networking is the biggest the other one probably would be managing finances because you're now you're right one of the things that morris and i had talked about on our way over to you know for the show was you know i'm doing this course on or you know growing your business and a lot of the exercises like one particular exercise it kind of forced us to grow our business but zelic delegating we could well be right that oil again if you're one person operation finding those outside vendors that can take on some parts of your your job that you don't necessarily with i will free up time i know so that you can go out and what i really want so for me i kind of identify to people that i'm talking to now because it's been less thing i have to do it's not the thing i'm that great at doing so i'm spending more time doing that when i can be doing something that i really need to do and you'll find it in this business that you know you know the what what this reminds me of is one of the things that i had done many many years ago is i drew an organizational chart now my name was in every box because it was just me right but what's really interesting is that at that time my husband was in corporate america what's really interesting i found other day that vision that i have is actually starting to come into place it's  on believable because i'd forgotten about it right right so i really think that having a bigger vision but laying it out right that's it that's it writing it really laying it out is because i guess subconsciously because i had him at the head of the company doing whatever i had me doing something jackie's and wanted old boxes well and part of it is i'm actually doing online courses which i'm no needs to be drawn out that's my step yes you know and i analyze way too much and that's ok yes you do i need to know how to fix it if it's broken ok so that's why i have to analog and what is your ok well the other thing i would say that i still feel that i need is probably marketing skills yes ok because we don't learn well i don't read so i'm learning actually i think i'm learning a lot of that through sabrina they're not into the social media so i wouldn't be getting my clients to like right so we have to understand those different right and you have to you have to balance and correct where your clients are going to be looking for you and for example the lines of patient advocates has a website that you can put your own website oh that i love that you know how your clients find you right go on there look and see right what area you're in click on your link and that i find so that's o lancers what would you like your legacy to be i i would like my legacy to be that i was a kind person that i went out of my way to help kindness work this is really about something ok a kind person that you know went above and beyond to help somebody and maybe not be rewarded for it to do it for the right reasons yes you're not always going to yeah get rewarded for it and yes do i completely agree with you do it from your heart from your heart adele that you know you've done that you've done the right thing in that or for example of course of patient advocacy you know as being a private  advocate which i chose rather than working for a corporation right is because i want to help the patient and some of my patients may not be able to afford me well you know what that is not my goal right goal is to help them get to where you it was interesting yeah thank you