hi everybody welcome to the paranormal connection i'm your host on a wilbur well we're going to be talking about my guest journey into the paranormal tonight and i'd like to introduce once again joy chong but on the show before right a while ago i had a spiritual conflict or psychic conflict whatever you want to call it i'm not much for labels and i started hearing voices and they started really messing with my mind and i ended up  fighting them off for about eighteen months and at the end of it all i realized it wasn't about fighting the law it was about helping in healing and once i helped and healed the it ended up removing yourself from my life i think by resolving the conflict through peace and compassion is the simplest and most effective solution did you have any idea where these voices were coming from did you think you're losing your mind how did that how did that work many times ok and i thought i was losing my mind at the same time they were telling me about facts i didn't know about were telling me about coordinates to places i never knew about as well and they told me really detailed parts about my near future and so that was very strange for me to build to hear that and that kind of helped keep it going further and further so you know the more i fought back with them the worse and more complicated they get got so at the end of it all i got some great advice for a song from another world a psychic message that said i should try the one thing i haven't so peaceful and compassionate solution was the most effective and you know and i use that ideology in my everyday life to this day it's changed me forever that all you need is love yeah so many words yeah well that's super so once once the voices stopped what changed you what you know the experience changed you i'm sure so how did you proceed from there well what changed me is that i was able to get through a conflict and i experienced this such a high degree of paranormal activity and i was able to get through it and so that part changed me because i never searched for it and i had never been that much interested into it but it just landed in my lap and some people they end up searching for it and studying for it and working to experience this first hand it was happening to me and that was a strange part about it why me and i started asking questions but at the end the questions and matter anymore it was just that i got my mind back and i was probably the best thing that could ever happen to me now looking back at it at the time i didn't think there could be any benefit to this but now i miss that experience so do you still have the voices do you still get the read we doubt the one you don't want to keep the ones you do out of work or before the voices would end up being in your mind and they would grab your attention right and there's nothing else you can focus on except for those i'd ask them questions i communicate with them for you know communicate with so for their companionship and their free exchange of thought  we want to know everything you want to get in there we want to find out everything ok let's talk about starseeds ok why did you explain to the audience what starseeds are and  who do that also i've met and talked with so many people who are getting information were the aliens are helping us evolve spiritually and when i save all spiritually it's really so simple as to just live well within yourself and my experience has been that way they don't want anything else except for people to live well within themselves and you know so i think that's when the best things that are the best way to describe the starseed movement and such simple terms now are they preparing us for a more contact more physical contact you know it's interesting because there are thousands of u f o sightings every year around the world and there are so many descriptions of so many variations of both life forms and increased spacecraft and even if ten percent or one percent were true and genuine and we would still have so many different types or races if you may call them and so i wonder why they're here and i came to the conclusion that i think they're here to watch something amazing happened they're not interfering with us they're not fighting with each other i think they're here to watch something amazing happened and it's and we're part of that as well that's interesting and you know what i have to say we're talking with our guest julie morehouse about gardening and i'm looking at apartments just and i'm thinking talk about an alien life form be they look like you tease and you know they're they're just strange looking creatures who just say that you know they're not being dropped off here by you know so spaceship or whatever there's so many there's so many life forms you know on this planet forms or you know or even human for so there are so many i mean there are so many different things we assume that when we're talking about otherworldly creatures or aliens or whatever that they look a certain way we have no idea here and there is a lot of preconceived notions and yeah exactly about so many different races that we're assuming exist you  know like if i you know ran into another alien you know i would treat them you know and i would sit down and listen to them and just talk with them without any preconceived notion about anything and there's no need for me to another creation which is coal very cool and sometimes you know they get the message people are getting messages and it's about aliens coming to save us from something  or or the first contact with the first worldwide contact and in my experience it's been live well within yourself and it will prepare you for anything that exists so what kind of things can you suggest to people to to follow this advice what have you done personally that's changed you i have meetings we talk about different paranormal experiences and sometimes the meetings have different themes whether be starseeds or alien contacts or spiritual and psychic phenomenon and we talk and we collectively talk and share our experiences it allows each person to  know that people end up you know going through the same thing too the details may be very different that the end it's to open and expand our minds and to them to know that there's so much more out there that we have scrape or what's what we haven't discovered so it's almost like the end doing you know we course things are changing so rapidly but i remember growing up as a child didn't talk about things and you were always put into a category of either being strange or you know kids don't want to be associated with you because you're weird or whatever it is things are changing but when you stop and think about how many people there are that have experiences so don't talk about their experiences there's there's something to it and i'm so happy that there's people out there like you joy who are getting together with individuals or groups and starting to allow this to be more of the norm then something that needs to be shushed or talked about privately i think that's that's wonderful you know a lot of cases people end up going through the experiences and they may think they're crazy and people may think i'm crazy too but that's ok too you know it's crazy you know that you know i live my life i respect people i love people you know i love all beings that exist so  they may think i'm crazy but i think about the right track so absolutely and there are as many entities out there that are able to contact us as there are unusual findings just  one of the things that i was able to glean from from your expertise was getting in touch with our intuitive selves our energy bodies and i really would love for you to talk about that ok all right or inside of verse elves we have an energy for who understands and knows about our past and their future and every detail of it because i was it was demonstrated to me that does exists our energy knows that destiny in our energy keeps us on track of our destiny and our you know our life was chosen before we were born you know our crooked path of destiny all the tragedies and celebrations and there were in between every detail was chosen by us before we were born by our higher selves so if you can trust yourself now you can really trust your higher self who was around before you were born and chose this life that you now that was demonstrated to me and that's not something that everyone has to accept but it's something that i've accepted and through that your energy self is not a version it's an all knowing version of yourself within yourself so i encourage people to come in contact and to communicate and become more sensitive to the changes of their energy self because it's part of  that is all knowing so i'm going to give a quick demonstration ok all right and people at home they're also able to go through some assertion as well and i do encourage that so if you can knee and just relax and then i just want you to be sensitive to the energy in your hands and mentally i'm think show me yes us hopefully it should switch over to the right hand ok so i'm going to mentally ask three questions and there will be either  are facts about myself or there will be false statements about myself ok ok so i'm going to ask the first question know right and then i'm going to ask the third  know yes yes and that's ok too and so at home we can write statements false statements and true statements a little piece of paper for the love for them  and just grab them randomly and without unfolding them you can use the same thing at home without watching television it will be much easier in your brother just practice it in practice that until you get more and more right answers a nd then you'll be communicating with your energy self i think very low signal level the interesting part about doing this is you actually feel physically feel your your answer of what you feel is is the right thing for you and whether you know i got the the answer right or wrong i don't know what the questions were i mean to me it could have been no pre it was yes  but i may have thought it was now but there is a difference and you could feel the difference once the left hand tangled for us in the right hand felt heavy for now and there is definitely a big difference so what you had suggested was that when you're having a dilemma or the voice in your head or whatever whatever question that you need to ask this is really a good tool signal i like doing it like doing it this way because it allows you to feel the changes of energy within your body exactly so there are people out there in in the psychic world who call themselves sensitive  that's really important it's a really good skill to to build on and it will help other people get in further their skills that way once they become sensitive to the changes and they're over to pick up the very very subtle signals  to pick a bunch of pieces of paper draw happy faces and frown faces mix them up for them on the ground and when they pick one up just pay attention to the corners of their mouth  they pick a profound faith the corners of the mouth will drop and like or vice versa or the other one to pick up a happy face and the corners of the mouth of prop up that in the smile just such a subtle way but since that's more physical people are able to pick that up quite easily so that's a demonstration that we do when they have my psychic phenomenon group so that's interesting so they could demonstrate or demonstrate different type of psychic things a little more difficult on television but i allow each person who comes to these groups to experience a psychic phenomenon or they can send me a message and i could tell them when they're sending a message or what kind of message it is and if we do it in a way we're kind of weeds out man can really make quite the quite a difference in a decision or you know when you come in contact with someone you're not really sure of whether you should be with this person or not you know it's fascinating and helpful yeah one of my favorite parts about meeting is when people show up ninety percent of them have never met each other but at the end of the night you are up for talking and engage in this conversation about our personal experiences it feels like we've known each other for years and just hadn't seen each other such a long time the chemistry you know it clicks that well that's my favorite part about the meetings oh pat i've met very very it's nice because our group collectively will end up deciding or not this idea but collectively hope each other out and figure out a lot of the answers that we've been searching for super and i have encouraged people to want to contact joey and go to a meet up because they are there fascinating me some fascinating people and you just walk away feeling like your head is just filled with good stuff that's wonderful well let's talk a little 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mobilizing people for a cause like or some type of good versus evil battle  ies the list goes on and on there are different aliens and you can't begin to prepare yourself differently for all of those conflicts yes you know and i was part of the conflict for about eighteen months the psychic conflict that i was in it just complicated my life it made the problem worse and worse and worse until they used a peaceful resolution and it was the simplest and most effective way to handle it you and i know that you know more and more people people are awakening and they're starting to realize that there are solutions and that we need to be more aware of them and start implementing some of these solutions rather than like you said looking at the conflict all the time so is there anything that any kind of messages that you are getting that  that you would like to impart as a whole great question you know it's living well within yourself is living well within yourself with you know any attachment to anything that physical so if you can live all within yourself by detach yourself from everything in you you're in a great place also living in the present with living in the present is the most powerful thing and so you know i think that's the only thing i would like to tell people that's whatever my journey and so it's helped my life radically so that's great advice there a friend of mine posed a question to me she said if you were a pond how would you feel i thought that was great but we have to go it's been lovely talking to joe i appreciate you