hello and welcome to we poets my name is sally baker and i'm the host of we poets we poets is a poetry show for boys and girls between the ages of six and thirteen years old so if you would like to be on the program please have your parents are your school teacher call me and you can come and join the fun also i'm always looking for guests to come and tell young people something about their jobs and careers that young people can pursue when they graduate from college from high school and college tonight we have a very special guest and his name is kevin the grown he is a curator and a creator and he's going to tell you all about his interesting work and we have one poet tonight and his name robin it and he's been on our show once before and he's going to tell you all about this interesting contest that he entered so without further ado here we go with our show hello young man h ow are you tonight good good would you look there at the camera and tell us how old you are and where you go to school please all of the years old and i go to your room charter school in berkeley great what are your favorite subjects in school history now music and science great and why is it important that boys and girls study all these subjects to plough or go to college that's right and when you graduate from high school or college what career do you think you'd like to pursue entrepreneur great and what field do you think you'd like to be in i sports or medicine or  i like to extreme sports like skateboarding and snowboarding surfing gray great now tell us all about this contest that you recently when you came on our show several months ago well this c took place at pier thirty nine at the bear aquarium and it we had to go to a dealer and they we had to watch all the all these high school kids from  washington state and other parts of california and the west coast and i was mian me and another group of kids we were the only middle schoolers coming up against high schoolers wow did you feel kind of nervous yeah yes they tell us about your project my project where project my my movie it was it was great the the audience liked it i was nervous to go of on the stage i was i would they were about to say my name to win first place but but i didn't win but you like what like southern california washington d c and all over the southeast midwest software us wow which places did you like the best like i like california good good now we're going to be talking about mr turner he passed away several months ago and he was a cartoonist now tell me the research you did about mr turner please traits that he had you'd like to pursue yeah yes tell us some more about your future what you hope to accomplish when you get to be a grown man i hope to accomplish to make  successful yes that's good that's good anything else you'd like to tell us look right there to care about school activities maybe that you've taken school activities we are doing we  games going to computer research or watch a movie or skateboard good while i want to thank you so much we're going to hear from our guests next and then you're going to come on at the end of his program and ask him a few questions ok well thank you you did a wonderful job i'm very proud of you ok boys and girls and ladies and gentlemen stay tuned we'll be back in just a moment welcome back to the second half of we poets i'm sally baker the host i would now like to introduce you to my special guest for tonight and his name is kevin love grown he is a curator creator and he's going to tell us all about his interesting hobby and how he got involved in it and how you young people or maybe even adults can get ok how can creativity be used to empower and make change well you know i thought i believe that if you can conceive something you can achieve it through art you can create whatever you want to achieve and therefore i believe that art is important for conceptualizing where you want to go and your direction and going outside of your boxes and how long have you been creating art  ok well i i think creating art since for years you know all my life and i was in art exhibits years ago and then one and so that went so well that the artists were coming to me afterwards and they were to tell me that by doing my exhibits they want to be in my show at the time but not plan to do any more you know our shows it wasn't at that time i had thought about it one of the things they're seeing while i was setting up the exhibit was a man helping his daughter do her homework and so that moment has stuck in the back of my was called barber artist expressions of father good good now how do how do i hold my art shows empower and make change well i want to change the way we talk about things things we look at things is interesting that when i do allow my art exhibits there are people have a thought about some the things i bring up some concepts i ask about and so i have some artists that i call my art posse and i call them i say i'm going to do this exhibit and a lot of times the conceptus is so far outside of what we think as african americans that it really like pushed outside of our boxes and we think differently about those things those issues and now you're going to be doing it to the more turner right could you tell us about this upcoming exhibit where it's going to be hailed that exhibit is going to be at the san francisco maine public to look at how his work and his creativity creative change and it's not just our pieces it's not just cartoons what i want to have different types of artists of a type of people working in the arts historian scholars who have directly who have been directly impacted by more turner and bring it all together into one space and we're kind of want to show is like a the movement the creation of its impact i you inviting people maybe some of our watching audience to participate or do you already have the people lined up that you're going to have shown things in the exhibit artists or are people who were directly impacted by him who can tell me how they were impacted by him we're going to show me how they were impacted by him they're welcome i mean at this point i would be interested in talking to them yes i know you've asked me  to participate in this exhibit yes and i'm going to be glad too because mr turner was my first hero here when i came to berkeley california and he inspired me to start we poets my t v show this lasted thirty years so he's a great man and i know he's looking down from heaven at us tonight and our own him to us because i did my first retrospective of his work in two thousand and eight and we became friends and he was very inspirational for me as an artist and a curator and i just wanted to just take his work to a higher level i want to take it to him work abstract concept to a level where he becomes a movement so that so i thought like i told him this and so it's not a tribute to him so his retrospective and so as i was doing his the show and i was a bit of time with him at his house and i was just impressed by the body of work he'd done stuff in the seventies and some things  was there was a that was a very i grew a lot from that is that experience both from knowing him and doing the and doing the exhibit and just seeing his work there's actually being able to those questions were i would like and the back of my head yes and even though i say keep the faith is here late as they are now why did you so some of these things you brought here ok we had three pieces right you're going to show right most of the things this is from my first exhibit  before i met mr turner and two thousand and six is earlier mentioned to you that i had seen a father with his daughter yes and this was a show that was inspired by that moment and so actually this piece was actually created by two artist because jim dennis was a photographer and so we were using his target feet to make a flyer for the exhibit and so my nephew to real phillips what i did was i gave each of these the artists some documentation of someone who had lived before eight hundred eighty who had existed or experienced life before eighty eighty ok and so this particular person is my great great grandfather had a picture about what great grandfather and i had a story because he was in a lot of books and so he was a character so why did was i took his story and young young people you kno can't think of them right now so i'll maybe maybe later i'll come up with something ok yeah well you did a real good job now we're going to have our port come back on ok ladies and gentlemen and boys and girls stay tuned we're going to have our point join us and i'm sure he has some questions so we'll be back in just a yes he did he did a book and like to joke about how one of the pilots had my same last name how close were you to mr turner i'll close when i was working on it but respective i spent a lot of time at it house he had a lot of work he had like fifteen years of material to go through so we did a lot of talking and so we became friends that way are five at the hayward airport it was a small plane and i was the copilot and i doubt quite a view from up above seeing the cemetery bridge the and the airport great do you hope to become a pilot when you graduate from college yes great you like to fly international plane internationally aren't just here in america i just like to i like to fly internationally  great when we're so proud of you and now why don't you tell us about your educational background where you attended college and what ovaries well my bachelor's degree is from kept its in civil engineering and my now before we end our program would you like to tell our audience once again when this exhibit is going to take place and where ok the exhibit will be at the san francisco maine public library on november the first until january thirty