in the east side they were from microsoft for boeing they're very high level very skilled people residents here in seattle and brazilian brazil is the be a brick are very rich contrary that's why foundations like being in the gates foundation they want to go to brazil because you have areas with high technology and a lot of poverty and they can put this together in test of the scenes or some states know they have p t we are pretty divided between being these social bill helping the people to get out of the pull over to nurture the business in brazil so is th but so the battle for brazil rages in a really interesting quote out of this bloomberg article it says brazil's problem isn't ideological gridlock rare is the hard line that can't withstand the crucible of congress now with twenty eight parties while where allegiances shift as opportunities arise the real challenge is hewing progress from the model is that right is it just hard to get progress because you got so many parties well we have so many par parties in the congress but brazil has to accommodate a lot of a lot of people in the same congress so we have right people i do business people who have a start up people everybody in the congress a lot of cops of it in the day become part of the life of the five ala interesting because there is also is there is a claim of extreme police brutality yes and in fact there is an article out of time magazine just from november the tenth police linked militias this is not the first case there were another massacre she said citing the case of a former military police officer who was sentenced to one hundred twenty years in prison in october for killing sixteen agers in two thousand and eleven that's that is society they cut class sees people who used to be in favelas in very poor places especially in the northeast of brazil and then the government gives them monthly stipend two hundred dollars for each keyed in school is a miracle in china they did the same thing but in china was five hundred beat them left the poverty become middle class speaking in china if you talk with anyone from just about any country you know the chinese coming to we are in the same stage of doing business we have very international companies in brazil so it's kind of easier now to do business in brazil knight states we have put heinz bush we have  burger king we have sweet we have a lot of companies here so brazil the economy's growing and they are internationalize the comp the companies of india and they have a lot of assets all over the world so you mentioned burger king is i mean and you have fast food outlets all over the place well when i say brazil but the burger king they say you can take it but brazil is a very americanized constant terms of the  n people want to be like the americans and the vice versa sometimes because when americans go to brazil they want to have this kind of relax and more relationship approach in their business i always a very interesting mix of american and brazilian coach of the business now the rio twenty conference in two thousand and twelve was probably the biggest environmentally focused conference ever in the history of  relaxation wonderful people beaches this kind of thing is a really good city to do business as well because you can have the pleasure of the people of the pleasure of this relationship with the environment and the business as well where the government itself is is it how we're really looking to win to increase relations and so by hosting an international event like the rio twenty conference and then the world cup and then the olympics coming up is it purposely trying to get on the world stage well it's a big country and we have had six where the six economy in the world nowadays but we don't have a strong army and we don't want  away our way of being in the in the stage and the world stage is doing good things for the world we already hate hate hate we have a yard in the several place in the africa to help  there is about three hundred dollars a month here in the united states we talk a lot about a living wage or a family wage job what's a family wage job pay in brazil is just from looking around the world is that people who have power don't easily give it up or income disparity is you know it usually means that people at the top are going to give up more are they willingly doing that in brazil of course not we have the same phenomenon of the united states out the jobs that are in the lower jobs like mcdonald's this kind of thing for the middle class upper middle class it's hard life in brazil that because of what happened with the financial services crisis of two thousand and eight yeah i think so because united states have the same thing people in the top level don't have jobs anymore and just country on the planet in terms of its population but with age comes responsibility typically coming from the government and from those who are working which if that's a shrinking population then you've got an issue and that's what people fear here in the united brazil stead of sixty two to sixty five this kind of thing but brazil has very had used to have very good loss to protect labor so we have a gigantic be able now to this kind of all right so let's say that you have eighty million newly well educated young adults where they can work well brazil the private sector in the government are working together graduation not the graduation so brazil is being everything in the motley stipend for these people to study here at the university of washington we have about more than one hundred brazilians over there and they are paid for by the brazilian government but by the us by the taxpayer in brazil well you know what i'm hearing a lot of great programs but i'm also hearing a lot of expense what's the taxes there tell me about well i think the corporate tax is about thirty five percent the car over there i was reading about cars brazil has a twenty twenty five percent tax on cars united states is just five percent so far for us doing business in states it's fantastic it's farm of the world they say well let's talk about that because one of the things i think the agribusiness has really excelled in in brazil biodiesel feels you know how to have you done that what do you do different than we do here in the united is going to change the reality in brazil we have all the money from this or you are going to he's going to be put in the education system you know some people would say that for poorer countries and new wealth from oil that it's like a is you know you get hooked on it and bad things happen you know like when as well you know their cultures you know yeah we are aware of this but as it was a very diverse economy we have airplanes we have cars all day all  international car industries ardea we have a huge bank sector a banking sector as well everything's electronic because the time of the inflation a long time ago they had to be very quick in the  minute we need the help of the americans to improve our management skills in brazil so how receptive will brazilian businesses be to americans coming down there and telling them what to do we just love it  difficulties and the and the poverty what's the bad part about brazil what's the part that if you could change you would i would say management i think we have all the resources police and this kind of thing and even so we have this kind of problem resume because it's all about management people what i would change in brazil mission is i come from from government as a come from the than being an oil producing country are are some of the same people involved with big farms in brazil that are also involved in oil no no relation but both economies are not good for jobs i think maybe oil we need to brazil if we were to come back in five years and ask how these past five years been what would you say well i think unfortunately used the same problem united states  everything is about money or is about politics brazil know we have both problems because the government spending more than we can take from the population terms of taxes so is a