i love movement i love to move from point a to point b because i believe that when you keep moving you always remain a man in russia today is a side in day because i have rural areas and that's when i really after hanging out with the people really being able to see the felt need in the area for mental health services and that's kind of what transitioned my saba as well as all the children had african maims so my parents were very enjoyable in that part and part of really making sure that their children were knowledgeable of their african heritage proud of being african and it's just a matter of time that i lived in africa just like i knew that i wanted to be in africa at one point in my life and the so yeah so back in two thousand and nine i pretty much left all of my stuff so my cars furniture clothes all that of all my are seven in total have been an amazing cultural experience integrating into the societies with the people it's so easy at least in those communities because i never became one of them like a lot of times i would even have conversations with kenyan brothers and sisters and they would literally they would say you not a mule not you know american and you are so that i just happen to live in america and then now you came home to  you know and i think what really helped make that transition there was that number one i became a student of the culture i didn't come with the mindset of yes i'm here i'm american i have a five months in swahili class monday through friday nine am to four pm only slightly and ask my colleagues to only speak to me and so i heal even though in kenya it's this both english and english and so i really are the i so in that way it was it's been great i don't doubt it how to cook golly doing for their soul i actually started out as a missionary i am a missionary right now and in kenya and the goal was to develop and work with a bible translation organization is to develop oral versions of the scriptures in the different mother tongue languages in kenya so we worked in about twenty different languages and we used or audio techniques and audio engineering to record  so basically using different forms of the bible in terms of short stories in terms of songs we did audio for film and get jellicoe films and so a lot of it was really helping the community to preserve their language giving them that validation because a lot of times their languages weren't even written down so our guess ation also this translation yes there oral there are a lot of them are oral chorus an oral language of the film now documented so badly when you see your language actually in a book there's so much pride that you get with that you know because a lot of times there were even some of the community members who didn't even want to teach the younger generations that language because they were thinking that all it's not going to help them you know advance in life economically or culturally and so there was a lot of to really create all of these different audio programs as i am in the field doing the quality then helping to design stories that have people principles that are also instilling value biblical values in the communities i'm talking to the women you know because in africa in the rural communities it's very segregated you know the women congregate with the women the men kind of gate with the men and as i'm spending time with were that were very triumphant and then there was the stories that were traumatic and there the trauma seemed to come and then you really occur across the board in so many different communities that i travel to and i realize that here i am working as a missionary really inspiring and desiring to inspire hope and instill hope in people's lives and hope for the future  there was that trauma that was becoming a barrier from that message of hope passing i think through so it was really calling on my life and and unction that i receive from god that there needs to be something done about removing that negative effect of trauma you know you can remove the trauma because it happened you can only the story and then push past it should not be something that prevents you from achieving greatness in your life and so that is where now transition in my life has come from because i'm realizing that even jesus himself accessed people's blindness before he brought a message so there are a lot of traumas that even in the bible in love and now i get an opportunity also to help remove the negative a impact of that trial and then bring that hope and bring that something like from childhood that you get into because to be honest with you love is this a love is a gift or love is something that you got to us press practice so how did you get into like love in people skimp out on saying i love you and very believe me as well as affectionately my parents are very affectionate parents they hugged me and kissed me that love starts at home  got it from home and extended that love and then also becoming a christian that also has been a part of me because if god is love then how can i call myself one of his children and want to disciples of i think love is inclusive love in and i'm not going to say it's color blanket some people say oh i don't see color then if you don't see color then you're blind because that is a ok if god did not create all of the different colors of the rainbow wouldn't know this we wouldn't know this every single color is important every single color of the rainbow there's a necessity and a purpose for all of the colors that are in the world now once we acknowledge those different colors that's where the dialogue really is that our music ation is but trying to say oh i don't feel as a black woman i don't fear the black man you're blind because clearly you must not have eyes because i see myself as a black woman you know and i think myself as a human being as well so we all have in common a being a part of the human race and then we also we have so many  i think it starts in a community and the community can look like the church it can look like your community center can look like your local synagogue can look like all of the houses of worship that exist in the local community being able to number one raise awareness and educate people on different cultures different backgrounds because that's what makes america great you know and i great again but just great is  variety of the number of people's backgrounds and heritages chat have come to build this great nation once that education is there yes then you have a conversation and invite everyone to the table so that everyone can speak and everyone's point of view is valid and once you're having that dialogue then now all of the different areas can can come up and you can really be able to understand where other people are coming from as well as come to an agreement that there although there are differences that we all have their us so many things that we have in common knew if i really wanted to be of impact and be able to have value in the community and really bring an expertise that i needed so i left the only reason why i left kenya specifically in timing mental health counseling with the use of the art yes music dance drama visual arts traditional art forms that is very key and very such a niche study program that that specifically what i want to bring back to kenya saw i'm taking two years away from the from the african and from my african experience to come back to the states to get that knowledge and to get a license be a license mental health counselor and register expressly for their benefit and bring it back knowing that you can do something and so tired of knowing that there is something that you have to do and no one else is going to do it because you don't know if you don't do it the world will be waiting well and i don't want the world to be waiting any longer and then i knew that i had to answer to a higher power as well because i was being disobedient and so my request to those who are out there is there is something being listened to your heart when you go to bed at night when you've been here and you feel something deep in your gut some people call it intuition some people call it god some people call it th listen to that gut feeling and when you know that that is something that only you can fulfill and it's something that keeps you up at night and it's something that there's a problem that only you can solve there in lies that passion there and lies your purpose and that's where you can push forward can you can you see that and you see your happier now than when  transition so i was very passionate about sound engineering i loved working and ollywood and working and in film television music with all the different experiences and connections and then i figured i'm like you know what let me take that to kenya and i love working and traveling throughout all parts of east africa kenya east uganda being able to work with the people and now taking the same skills that i read in the states and being on the in the field and also believe as i can and i can wake up and my day was never the same you know there were always different things because i know that that was one thing that i was not a very nine to five person i don't i knew that from the beginning that was not the life that i wanted for my for me and when i was able to achieve and really be able to give back while i'm still enjoying and pushing towards this passion and now even turning what i was doing as a recording engineer into training i mean i was in how the feeling it was to train people in the same things and techniques that i knew which seeing the life of a large company like and seeing the lights pop up in people's minds and that only giving them a skill that they're able to preserve their own oral heritage but now this is an economical skill that can make money with this so it's empowering and giving that economic development and so was just a natural of transition that passion to passion there wasn't a low you know where i felt like i was out of my purpose so i was out of step it was more ok now that you've been working in this purpose and passion about here you  a bill blinders and you see some greater passion so i never thought that my passions could grow or that they could even transition if they could even include other things and this is very bad and this is an area now that i'm very passionate about you know really helping people heal from their pain pains and their lives and pushed past the pain and stuff like it's one thing to have the pain and own the pain but it's another thing to another back pain hold you back and think so many of my brothers and sisters in africa and even here in america who are holding on to their pain and if dragging them down and i'll let about it i'm glad you mention that because one of my books