drugs and about freedom for the right to be free it's going to grow yeah one that's what we're all here for amazing life i grew up in lake forest park here in seattle and my dad's from originally new york and then moved to miami when he was fourteen as a football player who's an unusually large jewish fella and got a scholarship to university of florida and then his korean war he got drafted a korean war and  gainesville and my mom found a big bug and she said that's it we're moving to washington and they move back to spokane and i was born in spokane and moved to seattle when i was one which is short cross high school basketball player i started my business career at the same time i had a paper route and we were scalping tickets and to do it for various other stuff i started showing stereo showed one to my principal but i've always wanted to be a businessman and help i like building things so i was fortunate enough to get a basketball scholarship went to college went to two years at taft  businesses which is a very difficult thing to do and that in the day we write the plans i do the financials and we go out and raise money right and usually we have a little bit of our own money in there if we have any right show i've been rich and i've been poor but to dinner to day i've got a group of people that i've worked with for thirty years that is just outstanding people i've been fortunate to be want to wealthier people on earth because i have a great french a great people around me and i've you know i help people become wealthy but i've also seen a lot of people get destroyed by wealth so it's kind of a catch twenty two but it's my passion i love music i've been a singer songwriter since i was fourteen i've written over a thousand songs and i like creating things and i've got a sick sense with people you know i just could understand where they're coming from and i've also studied that all my employed my whole life though i do i'm always working for someone you know because there's always a partner or story somebody or there's a shareholder and you know what my goal is to make my shareholders you know just to share cherish were something someday in the company were something and it's a challenge you know it's really is it's it's a lot of people would say it's hard work a good idea good people and then there's luck and timing is very very critical i found some of my moshe excess food deal has had none of those except good timing so timing is critical at that but i'm a i'm a i call myself a always be right but it's it's it's always a challenge to deal with some people's ideas and concepts and their ideas don't always roll right out into business right and then there's always a point in time in a business it's kind of like someone's life where you have a you have a choice you go left you have a choice you go right and sometimes your decisions are very tough to make you know i find some of biggest mistakes i made you know i take companies public i've dealt with public i've managed money for people for thirty years i've shoulder insurance you know i find that your financial partner shum people just want the money things that you're not aware of and you know what they say is he with the gold makes the rules and that's sometimes the toughest decisions to turn down a guy offering you millions of dollars to to buy a new company but you have to look at the deal and you have to sit and look at it and be professional about it and not be overwhelmed by the money you have to consciously step back and say you know what would a person that doesn't have much  guy i try to build things but that's kind of what i've done i have two kids they're eighteen and fifteen and my mom and dad are still alive so it's you know things are going pretty well for me right now and i'm here to help cigar company in the early ninety's and a guy named mike jones and jason clayton came to me we met at log boom parking canmore and she one of those times you know you meet a lot of people in your life but it was a very interesting meeting and i was instantly enamored i've been an advocate since i was twelve years old i believe that it helped me with my a that's how it works that's and i've a trait there it also smokes i think it's a better smoking device than a vaporizer but we also do liquids as well so it has an atomizer that the core and better then you have got you take it apart here sure the public but there's a lighter and basically the lighter the way it dissipates the heat there is the technology so we've got some drilled holes here we spent a lot of time you know on this product nine years actually in development i was sixteen seventeen pieces at one time and now it's down to five lighters a key element to the product and we still are trying to improve everything on  product as we move forward but we take it apart it's pretty easy to go you put the substance in there and then you and that's how it works right there that's kind of without the it on and then then you have the the the advisor which is which is right here this goes in the bowl and allows you to do all the liquid so you can do either quits shisha you can do pain medicine were spare many would vitamin c an in various other pain medicine we believe it's a lot better for your system aspirin we've been experimenting with aspirin i know this is approved by the f d a show we've got to be careful of it there but we're working on that and that's our next phase with this product is story they said it was the best device invented at the time and we think from a mobile standpoint you can sit in your house and probably have a better device but as far as on a go we've had guys going to hundred twenty and we actually had to start we did what can you do and you rape and you have a lot of crazy stuff being done with what people have done and what they've been doing with the pipe and how how it works almost anywhere y  who knows we may bring that back here yeah you would do another song sure we're going to get people we've got the information at the bottom of the screen where they can get ahold of you to get ahold of it right need nicotine if you need other things this is a this is the great device to be used anywhere we have some disabled market in people that look at our website and maybe that's a device we'd like com and for the business and we'll raise funds and we put it to most attach the funds to the most of the sources that that are the most needy at this time simple to apply with with your vaporizer what do we call it it's called paper smoke they for small new product look very easy to use and very discreet and it's very quick it looks like you have one support we need help from people we've got a lot of musicians behind it a lot of people behind the industry high times is really behind the product really think it's a great product and you know we we kind of feel we're a little misunderstood because there's a lot electronic stuff out there and you're very social stuff and it just doesn't look you know it just doesn't look like it's just technical and it's and as defined of a device i mean this really is a highly efficient and efficient is where it's very noticeable dreamily well designed to take i substance in the in the bowl and and when you do yours and he does it clean it does it healthy and we you know we think it's the best advice out there in the marketplace non smoker where everybody thinks they don't smoke anymore because you can't smell they don't have the terrible smell they're not affecting anybody else around them and it's extremely discreet so you know what we're going to show a lot of people  cigarettes and it just doesn't it's not cool anymore show it this product don't even know she do it so it's really a great tobacco twice as well is it as satisfying as it is for the smoker to have a cigarette as it would be to to develop and become better as we as a group of people get behind it more and promote it and offered out there publicly and get feedback so we still need a lot more users and we have now so we're pretty excited about it i think as the exposure gets out there that this product this product will command some demand here coming up it's become more and more popular of an issue and so why don't we try to help you out there and i product it's it really got some fanfare and that's been about two and a half three years you know it's not it's not a cheap product it's actually you know we call it a cadillac in the industry it's a very very sophisticated smoky device we've been negotiating with dog who's now a new guy on we've been talking to and we're going to get the product indorsed by a lot of other people and have their own their own branded  a lot better for you than ingesting them or using a needle so this is well it is it's purpose is to greatly well built it's incredibly nice looking comfortable in the pocket company a group of websites the beginning web site is concerned at this time with victims of medical negligence and malpractise as it occurs in the indian united states alone  to approximately ninety thousand deaths are attributed yearly here in the country so we are helping folks with some of the difficulties that they incur and  box which records all data in an operating room in the surgical site in operating rooms in hospitals really we'll let you know more of the yeah yeah i think comes out breaking news yet how would they get that miracles united yes miracles united at comcast dot net awesome awesome yes preceded dan you want to one more song place actually and it was kind of fun because i was in a small town and i met the gal she was my editor i was a writer on a newspaper and she walked in and it was just the first sight and we ended up becoming girlfriend and boyfriend and she was twenty eight i was eighteen she was older than me and she had two beautiful daughters who i just reconnected with on facebook couple days ago but i went to tad first time in thirty years and i got to talk to her and s