and speaking of health we're now going to go to part one of a five part interview series that's going to be aired throughout this whole week it features pharmacist ben fuchs and he's going to be interviewing d both of these men are pioneers in the nutritional health field and we're going to be talking about a lot of important topics pertaining to our health so let's go to part one of this dynamic interview hey there i'm pharmacist ben and i am so proud and honored to be talking to this gentleman sitting by my side here dr wallach i've known him for going on fifteen years i got a tape in the mail like a lot of folks that doctors don't live back in the mid ninety's and then i had incredible opportunity to see dr wallach and since then he never ceases to me to amaze me and i'm really really excited to get to not only for me to be getting to talk to him but also for you guys to get to hear what dr weil has to say so with that doc wallach thank you will thank you good to good to see and good to be here with you why don't you tell the listeners a little bit about how you started you've got a great story about how you started to get involved with nutrition as a farm boy how you noticed things with the animals and how you had a personal connection with nutritional supplement ation how it worked out for you well i'd like to do the pharmacist member to tell you what but we study nutrition in terms of how nutrients are medicines and we study how diseases are deficiency diseases so this is one of the reasons why i connected with you so well because this is your message we're not sick we're starving many things that we consider to be diseases heart disease diabetes the things we die from in this country are really nutritional deficiencies at their core what i like to tell people is at the point of death itself we don't die of what it says on our death certificate we die because some tissue system somewhere some organ system somewhere is not being fed so we i was studying how prescription drugs were toxic and how they had side effects i remember one time we watched a movie on beta blockers these are drugs that stop the heart from working in order to lower blood pressure and this was a movie put out by ayers for their new drug interaction is going to revolutionize the the hypertension business and remember the movie was an hour long fifteen minutes about how revolutionary their drug was in forty five minutes with some guy reading the side effects of the new drugs forty five minutes i'm telling you really the side effects so i got the idea that we've got a real big problem in this country in terms of health care and the more i study the more i got into it the more i realized that if we could just get nutrients in the hands of people if we could just get people to start taking nutritional supplement ation we could do a lot of good so i started practicing my pharmacy using central fatty acids tell people what their skin essential fatty acids help women with their medical crafts be vitamins to help lower blood pressure and low and behold as i'm sure you know the results were tremendous so from the get go almost i realize as a young pharmacist that we could be using nutritional supplements instead of using medicines and we could be helping a heck of a lot more people and we could be saving a lot of money on top of that and then when i heard your message i was all over it i got that tape in the mail the doctors don't lie and i was like who is this guy and i listen to and i listen to and i got to tell you i stole some of your ideas and i went out and i started talking to folks using some of your ideas and then i went as working at the gym and i met a nutritional supplement taishan i started it was already the one nine hundred eighty s so it's all there already people who are who are understanding the vitamin c in the b complex and essential fatty acids and minerals were very important but when you were working with nutrients you were talking about nine vitamins were only really discovered twenty years before by mainstream science so for you to get on board you had to be quite the visionary i wonder if you could maybe tell the tell the viewers a little bit about how when through your synapses to make you realize hey there's something out there that we could be using to help take care of what people are considering diseases people are considering genetics genetic malady three people considering birth defects that really are nothing more than nutritional deficiencies well it actually started when i was four years old  i had a disease it would be called today tourette's syndrome they didn't have a name for it back then but to read syndrome and i had facial tics you know blink my eyes and get a facial cramps and it progressed got worse every year by the time i was nine years old i and i went and found a nurse's health handbook and looked for long eyelashes an eyelid twitches that kind of stuff and i didn't find anything so i just went to the index and just started a i got down to cram says well maybe it's a crap because play in sports and nine years old nice of oh i relate cramps and things and so i looked it up in the book cramps this was a calcium deficiency well before the bus would pick me up to go to school every morning i'd feed our calves are going to take to the auction this little bag full of alfalfa pellets but it had a little analysis tag on it just read in elsa's tag let's talk about protein and fiber and calcium and so i went home that day after school ran right to the barn and of course i've been taking the ninety cents nugent's twice a day since i was nine years old sixty four years so what is your head of the young boy when you take you're taking the things that are for the calves and also on your this movement is one of the must have been traumatic for you as a kid but what went through your head like you thought of the miracle well i thought was it one of those eureka moments because i understood something the doctors did i recognized immediately the doctors didn't know anything about nutrition when i was nine years old and i don't know if it was a divine appointment or what but i do know that i realized that at nine years of age the doctors really didn't know much about that sort of thing and i didn't realize that i was going to get into it as a profession but i knew that i could help myself and get help my mom and my grandma and that kind of stuff and so i began to do more reading and nutrition and i began to mix chicken food with a calf pellets and dogs when i was making a little meat loaf and things and a nine year old boy his nine year old boy by the time i was eighteen i really had it figured out and went gave me very good recommendations of so i got in as a sophomore accident as we really wanted to finish a school if you don't want to but i wanted to do so by the time i finished ag school i'm a sophomore of every student and now i'm a graduate student well that just so it looks exactly like chocolate milk wow they're red or purple or black and there's only caused by one thing that is nitrate poisoning the only thing will cause it so i knew immediately it was a nitrate poisoning thing so i said did you fertilizer get more corn for bang for his buck it was uphill and rain and got down this guy's well well did all the chemistry on the water the feed the lambs blood and the liver and everything and what happened was why did five hundred m die in one night and so i figure ok it has to do with metabolism and temperature and so it was december and in missouri in december you can have a day like today could be fifty degrees in december in missouri and in like forty hypothermia and one night i wrote that up at a published in the national journal the american veteran medical association and also international journals and i became instantly known as a student world law you're twenty two at the time  i think it's really important that people understand that you have a lot of great incredible wisdom and intuition when it comes to nutrition and chemistry but it comes from actually working with the tissue hands on you actually thaw with these nutritional deficiencies due to cam to the tissue to organ systems of the body and i think people need to recognise this is not just this not just theory and this is not just book learning this is actually hands on understanding about what you tricia does to the body in terms of  or maybe offering well because of that paper perkins was in this is the time when pollution was being brought to the surface by silent spring you know the movie or the movie part of the rachel carson the book and so forth and he run out before they blew the stink animals like a canary in a coal miner animal to reveal exactly and so he said we're wasting this material we need to have said i know a guy was like could they get him copies of that paper on the lam powwow so he pulled me back out to africa he made me the chief with ologists in that project which combined the services of the shah's botanical gardens in st louis the zoo and the biology department washington university and so it was called the center for the biology of natural system a closer rashard over a period of twelve years i did over twenty thousand autopsies and over seventeen thousand five hundred were over four hundred fifty four species a zoo animals three thousand human beings who live in close proximity to the zoo and the book that came out of it is twelve hundred pages it's in the smithsonian institute is a national treasure well they were shipping me all over the place what struck you what would hit you the most that twelve thousand autopsies that's a lot of takes twenty thousand twenty thousand and that's a lot of  struck you the most what was the most made the biggest impression on you from looking at all that tissue pharmacist been and yet the the most profound finding when this was sort of in the summary of there was like seventy five scientific papers that came out publish an international journals i mean this is a big project the national institutes of health twenty five million dollars which is a lot of money back that was chump change now but back then there's a lot of money for twenty four year old kid right and so the profound bottom line finding was this is published now every animal in every human being who dies of natural causes dies of a nutritional deficiency disease that awesome pollution was kind of a background thing and in some cases it contributes to it and that's those are no other long stories they big problem and when i was in africa for the two years working in the white rhino project i was still studying nutrition because i want to know what elephants were eating where they were getting their minerals whether get it or vitamins we were testing water and testing the leaves on the trees and bark the theory and so forth and writing papers from that too and so forth and when it came back and began to do these autopsies they would send me the national institutes of health and the national science foundation would send me to different facilities because some facilities had whales and some brookfield zoo in chicago because they had whales they had the shedd aquarium with dolphins and and they had the the brookfield zoo in the lincoln park zoo so this number of species were way up and i was walking in to this office unpacking and there's two biologists there who are getting ready to go on an expedition into alaska to catch some wild arctic foxes and set off sounds like an interesting project why are you doing this while we have a pair of arctic foxes here at the zoo the brook zoo in chicago and they must have some terrible gene because arctic fox is normally have ten to twelve kids in their litter and they are only having three to five cats and they're always born with his birth defects they have this terrible genetic problems who want to get played other beliefs i said there are imperfect specimens anyway given to me let me kind of work on him and do some test on him and they were happy with that they brought him up there and when they left i went to the grocery store and bought some dog food for toy dogs and i gave it to the foxes within a couple of the genetics i wonder if you could tell the folks a little bit about the whole idea that the genetics what how epigenetics relates to genetics and how you christian relates to epigenetics we have to appreciate how the medical mind thinks for mrs been you know this  our viewers here the medical mind is that they get a theory and everything belongs to that theory for instance back in the days of caveman or witch doctors and chinaman's everything was caused by evil spirits right and then there was alchemy us and it had and he immediately knew that spontaneous generation was not the thing he knew things were caused by the germs as were the germ theory right from and then of course he was the first one to actually sheep in the center of paris he set up pens artificial pens or temporary pens he had twenty five sheep that he vaccinated for anthrax he had twenty five sheep he didn't he gave anthrax all fifty and the ones that were vaccinated twenty four of them survived and one died and the ones who didn't have access they all died and so the press was there and it was everybody agreed that he knew the answer to anthrax and so the medical system couldn't argue with that because the president had made a feat a complete right and then comes along mendel in darwin right in darwin's talking about how things evolved to go up because islands and he'd see all these different finches which are really the same species but they had different colors and different beaks but they're the same species and that's because it took a little adaption and each of the different islands to survive the predators and things that we came up with a theory of evolution by watching the french and watching the finches as we got better ideas and you knew there was something being passed on from one generation because they could the ones who  successful had some adaption right that was the word adaption and the ones that couldn't adapt got eaten by the predators the beginnings of the genetic even something being passed on information passed on from parent to off exactly and then mendel who's this monk right and he's growing peas and he's studying peas which the monks love to eat he was studying which he could get the best peas and he learned that there was something being passed on the color of the p c flowers  and the weather the wrinkled or smooth the bigger the small that he could pass on these traits and so he talked about threads and he knew that something was being passed on he literally thread he said threads are being passed on threads of life are being passed on caring information was his words we're talking about in the early age in the early eighty's hundreds yeah and so that was the beginning of the genetic theory well long comes people like linus pauling and watson and crick and they were able to actually tell you the structure of a chromosome and so forth a double helix and how traits like eye color and skin color and hair color are being passed on and so for the lines are all in within on the whole do not always well he was the first he was actually the first one he was actually cheated my he should have actually gotten part of that nobel prize of watson and crick because he came up with a helix while he proposed that ten years before they came along they were just in their twenty's and he proposed it ten years earlier wow it but they were actually able to do it and show it to say he's really should have gotten some part of that nobel prize but he did very then along comes all the genome thing right so no suddenly now genetics  going to solve everything right there just every every time they have a new theory it solves a writer or a cave and of course the genetic theories fought for a long time just like the earth is flat theory we was tried to be defended by the holders of that theory were limits so any rate my revelation if you will back when i was nine years old the diseases could be caused by nutritional deficiency kind of i learned everything i could about nutrition of course in agriculture school we learned that we could prevent and cure as many as nine hundred different diseases of animals with nutrition that in medical school they tell me are genetic did you know that there was that it was really a nutritional and epi genetic component that the nutrition is actually changing the gen know we didn't have the word epigenetic you know fission was changing the genes that there were nutrition lack of nutrition was affecting the genetics and now that's a better word affecting ok if they weren't changing the genes factor affecting because the genes are like a factory that chromosomes are like a factory chromosome in a bucket a sale in say ok come on boys but work it makes them a nothing happening right you still need that makes protein the blueprint is just there to make the protein only the raw materials to make the protein that's right and so we learn in agricultural school that we could prevent cure every disease you can think of we can prevent cure well let's see if we can prevent every birth defect many of them you could cure some of like cleft palates a surgical case right and if for instance congestive heart failure the most common cause of heart disease a death in adults in america it's a deficiency of a single vitamin in fact when i went to the next thing after the foxes the brookfield zoo the shedd aquarium there in chicago they called me or said hey we hear you want to do autopsies on cetaceans which are whales and dolphins and things the up he said we got a freshwater dolphin here from the ganges river in india just died and we get ten or twelve of them every year and by in the spring and by the fall they're all dead this is pretty typical once you give us your thought what's happening here so i go over there and cut that thing open and first thing i knew immediately what it was was the heart of a three hundred pound freshwater dolphin as big as your fist this dolphin's heart was as big as a basketball he died of congestive heart failure because they weren't putting in multiple and extra time in the mouth of those fish and they fed into the little freshwater dolphins so told him to change the type of fish they were feeding him give him multiple in some extra b vitamins with a lot of time and stop the death of the freshwater to alter the shedd aquarium and so these are the things i could do with nutrition and here's all these biologists i mean these guys are very skilled very well trained biologist when it came to behavior of the animals and and their dynamics in very interesting disease sailors of course used to die from this by the thousands every year and as they went around the world and in their sea voyages were longer and longer and longer more and more sailors i mean two thirds of the crew would be dead from very very by the time they came home particularly as as time went along because they demanded modern food and modern food to them that polished rice white rice instead of brown rice because that's what rich people ate and so they wanted them as part of their demand if we're going to go on this long but before that japanese naval service there was something in they knew there was something in that brand of the rice in the brown covering the whole of the rice right could prevent reverse at disease and they would all die of congestive heart failure but they would all go crazy it lose their minds  today it's one out of eighty eight is the new it just came out last week wow one out of eighty eight now has autism wow and basically when i was a kid all four my grandparents were from eastern europe they were beet farmers and be farmers and so for breakfast i would have twenty years later kids are being fed on these box cereals full of car behind processed carbohydrates the sugar on it they're getting apple juice how can you build a brain which is two thirds by weight seventy five percent by weight is cholesterol loud in churches it's awesome and you know what doc i see it on my radio show on time i say you got to think it's a miracle but it's not a miracle this is the way the body works if you give the body what it needs and it will respond this amazing things done it's amazing device system about salon and this incredible incredible mineral and some of the things that you can use it for and i want to give place special attention on house lenny was involved by roy house lines and ball with diabetes and all the different things that you can use with this incredible mineral that i was active in quantity the tiniest of quantities maybe touch on that a little bit ok as you say sleep is one of those wonderful trace minerals which is essential nature we need it we can't live without it and it has many functions a structural that keeps this double helix of the chromosome in the in the proper distance of each other there's a little strut there in the middle of the struts or is all these different minerals and slain is one of them well so the helix itself is an incredibly organized structure and every little component of it is key the distance that the nucleotides are from each other all that is tightly tightly regulated in minerals like when you are involved in making sure that the structure stays intact that's what the fingers are exactly and when you have a deficiency of saline many things happen in the biochemical level you can't recycle guta time which is one of the most potent antioxidants made by the body most maybe and as used to protect you from cancer and fend off inflammation your arteries so you don't get clogged arteries that kind of stuff but if you don't have enough s you use one molecule of sort of deactivates but we have selenium you can recycle that one mile cule of blue if i own a thousand times is as very awesome and then it protects your brain from m s when you have m s you have a one is dead one's alive one supplementing with been who've had thirty two liver operations at harvard medical school their livers are the size of an oreo cookie to rebuild them in two months to normal we're just using the ninety cents nugent's an extra selenium right and then there's cataracts are caused by slim deficiency in free thousand two hundred autopsies nobody else has ever done that all the fish and they're all deficient insulin selenium and partially because of our work there in china every school kid when you go to kindergarten to get a multiple and a capsule  beautiful kind of a reddish purple heart color it looks like a good perch muscle it's white so they call white muscle disease and you can prevent it with a little bit less well with the ninety the process of making the hormone ok and as is copper and everything else and then of course is necessary for the health of your muscles muster dystrophy  the opportunity he gets excited he takes it to the medical committee in the mother not to go out late and they fire jerry lewis that's why jerry lewis has not been on the telethon for the last summer that's an amazing story and they sent him on a cruise actually bought him a ticket to say we have a non disclosure contract with the jury you lose everything will sue you for everything you bring this up and so we're standing on a cruise go enjoy yourself and don't bring it up and we want you away from here when we're having this telethon you're sure because everybody's going to say being a navy seal and introduced me to the amish community i didn't have access to those kids so a celeb must for sure do the muscular dystrophy but i think your point's well taken that you have to have the entire mighty ninety these things are specific for the disease states but the entire milieu of the body has to be new created that's right because everything kind of works together and if you have to have the metabolism to be able repair yourself you have to have the metabolism to operate just in life and grandma as a recipe for an angel food cake for instance and she dies and she leaves her secret recipe to her favorite granddaughter right but the granddaughter doesn't like something green she's i really don't like because the cholesterol theory right not going to be the same cake and so he leaves the eggs out and all you get is a angel food crepe yeah you know hey dr kay right because all the ingredients work together and the mighty ninety works together the same way all right so there's so many things i want to talk about but i don't think any conversation with dr wallach would be complete without talking about oil minerals ok ok and personally seems to be a lot of misunderstanding people don't really understand what exactly equal mineral is and and i think it's it makes sense that there be misunderstandings you know albert einstein and exactly what are cool it'll minerals and why are they so special so effective ok well thank you pharmacist been back again in the late eighty's i was working with some of the alternative cancer  hospitals in mexico and they invited me to come do some things with them and there that's a long story how i got there but that's another time but a rate one of the problems i had was getting all the nutrients that people needed because most people would need calf pellets and dog food and things like that right and so i had to find a way because in human supplies are very difficult to get things and so i need a source of some really weird trace elements and rare earths ok like gallium right is a little gallon glass jug and it says taken out of this with every meal and i taste it would kind of shrunk wrap your lips over your teeth it was very tart right mineral yeah and so i said what is this he said well this is stuff that comes out of the mountains and has all these different minerals in it so i took it to dr shows or university california and analyzed and it had seventy seven minerals in it including all these really weird trace minerals and rare earth exactly what i was looking for to make it would cost a thousand dollars an hour to take that stuff right as it was too expensive so here's a natural source and it had everything in there an optimal amount and i mean i really got excited because i said now i've got the tool that i can bring this to the general public right now well  is actually a mineral that since suspension rather than in solution to dissolve it hang it hangs in there now how does it do that you've heard of brownian movement right well all these particles are the same charge so they repel each other and so they stay in suspension by their own energy because right help each other a little magnets that's awesome in that awesome yeah and this is a highly electrically charged pollution that's right like a magnetic solution but they're all the same charge right that's the secret they're all the same charge right now the repellent yes right brownian movement and they knew about that for a long time but you're talking about one nutrient one mineral but here is one of seventy seven minerals in there and there's this it's almost like a liquid alloy of seventy seven minerals wow and for instance if you take a solution a leader of a solution you can maximize whatever you can get in there you get nine hundred eighty five or nine hundred eighty nine milligrams that's all you can get into solution there's only so much room in between the moderate water molecules suspension i get thirty six thousand milligrams how do you do that kidneys i can get thirty six thousand milligrams well when you taste f l sure you know a little shred that enamel off your teeth is so  had to cut it down to nineteen thousand milligrams but now we're getting up into the dosage rates so you don't have to drink seven gallons a day at a concentrated down the all these little mechanical factors i had to deal with at a concentrated enough to a human being could take a couple ounces and get enough nobody's going to take seven gallons a day to get enough right these are highly concentrated suspensions yes but i had to concentrate a more while right c and so this is perfect for me because i could get nineteen thousand milligrams in a leader six hundred six hundred i could get six hundred milligrams an ounce that's amazing that's amazing write them a thing and so but in a solution i could only get thirty milligrams and so what accounts for that difference that well in a suspension it doesn't matter how much room there is between the water molecules because these guys are in there some keeping each other in suspension all the time they never settle out there and off the stand and their cells suspending they never settle out while it's and it's a perpetual motion machine that's so you're you're actually drinking electrical energy electrical energy drinking magnetism sorts yeah so you're drinking a magnetic solution would you say that the effect on the body is the amps of the magnetic energy that well if you look at the heart for instance which is and so it's that simple any rate i was able to make liquids of course think i'm considered the father of liquid supplementation at that level and the initial product we had was just what we called plant minerals i remember that y seventy seven plant minerals which contain all sixty essential minerals an optimal one ounce for hundred pounds of body weight and most people are deficient mineral so just taking those metals made an enormous positive difference in people's lives and then people say well what multiple do i take with it so i had to come up with a multiple and then you think it's tricky at all the vitamins an amino acids and and things to it and i tried adding the fatty acids turned into soap i'm sure it came a solid yeah you can add battery acid could it it's a miracle that you could add all that other stuff in there that was that's some amazing point elations and let me tell you some i formulate for a living and the formulations that you guys have come up with some formulations they're absolutely stupendous and it started off with that but elementals app bottle of huge and of course kids like it because it tastes great and then perhaps where and that's another thing you know in pharmacy school we study delivery that's one of the main things we study is the livery and they tell you if you want to deliver things in the body you don't want to use a positive or e and you don't want to use an injection drink the stuff  and that is that was actually in addition to cool minerals the nature of the fact that it was in the way you could drink it and you would get instant absorption is so important because people as digestive problems everybody has they just have problems bypassing digestive problems liquids go ahead we turn it into a coffee crystal type technology now talk about that well coffee crystals are not actually like you're making an instant drink ok because what we did was turn it into a brood thing that has all these juices and vitamins and minerals amino acids and we made these huge solutions and then we freeze dried and they turn into crystals you just add water and selling out became we hydrate it rehydrate becomes the original  carry it around and light you can take it on the plane with you taking a plane that's great all right so cholesterol ok i want to know about cholesterol stat drugs hundreds of millions of prescriptions are filled for stat drugs every year everybody's terrified of cholesterol somebody here was asking about eating eggs and people don't want to date they don't want to eat the yolk in eggs and there's so much misunderstand about cholesterol please tell our listeners tell it tell the viewers a little bit about bristol what cholesterol is why it's important and then ok how you can they can make sure that you have enough cholesterol in your body using dietary strength well first of all close rolls an important part of our human structure every cell wall is like thirty percent cholesterol right and think every cell cells your body every want to thirty percent or more in some cases sixty percent of the cell wall is a lateral so you can make you can't make cells without the stuff that's right and cells won't work without it they die without it and then seventy five percent of your brain weight the  matter of your brain the mile and cholesterol his cholesterol ok if you don't have a cholesterol guess what you get alzheimer's disease it's a physician cause disease for lowering your cholesterol then you can't make sex hormones testosterone cholesterol so you don't have enough cholesterol you get erectile dysfunction you get menopause get real exhaustion you get alzheimer's disease all of it all of it how can this thing this beautiful chemical this beautiful molecule be so demonized in our culture it's amazing to me well here's why because again biologists don't know anything about chemistry right doctors don't know anything about nutrition so that's a maxim well in one thousand nine hundred seventy one after having done twenty thousand who had the worst clogged arteries begins right because they all after all mean well there was a little bit of closure on the in the in the scarring of the arteries and that's why the in their brains they thought it was cholesterol but there was turbulence in this went around millions of doctors millions of pathologists all over the world read this now they all laughed at me because they're saying while it must be sniffing glue because cluster all causes heart disease well guess what were revealed ganz getting their wasn't even a factor but they picked that's the only strange thing that was in there right and so they picked it out for some reason they came up with these staten drugs to lower cholesterol well here comes now forty one years later the f inside just a couple of weeks ago came out and said all houston we have a problem they put out new warnings on stand drugs saying i b you increase your risk of diabetes by fifty percent increases your risk of alzheimer's disease by one white that's all food for the chick in twenty one days incubation you have a chick with a beating heart and lungs and legs and all the muscles and feathers and skin and eyes and brain little at all from that little egg and so it's a perfect food yeah and so where else can you get what other foods would you recommend eat the chicken skin through the chicken away i just don't need it fried you can eat fish then yeah you get a little bit of cholesterol actually in salmon and in the fat underneath the salmon skin you can get got eighty million americans with digestive problems one out of three americans dealing with some kind of digestive issue when we know with liquid nutrients you can bypass a lot of that but what would you recommend for folks in terms of not essential nutrients are a bit excessive nutrients that people can use to support digest of well came out in two thousand and nine and said thirty percent of americans have gluten intolerance now there are some communities that eat a lot of grains because for whatever reason it's well it's cheap to store for years in case for some imminent disaster right we're talking about the amish and mennonites the the hutterites mormons the seventh day adventists are all vegetarians eat a lot of grains they have eighty percent gluten intolerance now what that does is you lose the villa in your small so the problem we have now is all these people now are being told to eat whole grains and so there's all this gluten intolerance happening so people are not absorbing what little nutrition there might be naturally in the food right and they're not supplementing and so you have to get off a gluten you have to supplement properly and then ninety nine percent these problems go away you're talking about when you're talking about diseases for instance like oh you allergens well they're not even allergens they're not it's not an allergy it's intolerance so in other words the protein peptide pass through in the milk in the the baby becomes intolerable yes exactly here's the deal nobody's allergic to poison ivy because there's no pollen involved nobody eats it for salads but everybody's intolerance of poison ivy ourself you don't get allergic reaction don't get immune reaction you have a contact dermatitis right the same thing when you eat gluten and have four stomachs maybe we could be we view only the elite yeah we have a single stomach and we'd we don't have the capacity to handle grains like like an antelope and you know a buffalo and horses and cattle and sheep and goats and all these animals  there that when you look around the world other than one celled animals the four stomach animals are the most universal form they're everywhere on every continent every place there's more species a room and animals there are elephants so our digestive system just isn't designed to eat these times that's right and that is you know by jared diamond right he wrote a paper called agriculture was the worst thing that ever happened in human history something along those lines but the idea being that we're not supposed to be eating these kinds of foods a german cleansing that was made from brown rice and steamed vegetables was only supposed to be done for two weeks but they really they felt good on this stuff right and so they had a little bit of fish to eat maybe some basics so you get enough protein so you could live forever and these people were free he's cured that's a great story now i don't know if people really recognize that you are a prolific writer and you write some queer we write some great books and what i like about your books is how you pull together all these disparate fields these disparate sciences anthropology and sociology and history and economics the nutrition and chemistry and biology pull things together and you've got a great story and i think it's a healthy kitchen i'm not sure which one it might be hell's kitchen we talk about the the  ask just a brilliant story about how people got the idea that you could actually get healthy by using ash and you see sometimes you'll see ash on the ingredients x or in the nutritional facts on dog food and tell us a little bit about this whole idea of acid minerals because in the old days even the caveman days you know they had fires right for their fuel right and caves going to get filled up with ashes right so they had to throw it outside it didn't take long to recognise you know where they were thrown those ashes the green ashes wood ashes are really the minerals that the tree had sucked up by the ground and when you burn the wood for fuel the minerals don't burn c have a powder in the fire pit the fireplace the wood stove the ashes the minerals that are burning yes they put him in the guard so then the ogre in the tomato is the car and the sweet potatoes in the beans and peas and cucumber suck it all up eat your vegetables your grains you got it that way you got your minerals that fashion nobody made the connection yet they're using it as a fertilizer they never made the connection they were getting minerals from it they never did that  on pearl street in new york city on the on the bluff overlooking the construction of the brooklyn bridge when ten years after that every city dweller has switched over to electricity for heating and cooking so what if they need more would ask you know they need them but how many it just displays for our source of minerals that you think it was sort of a change of of just like right now you can hardly find a payphone an airport because of cell phones have replaced it newspapers are going  away because all the little that's made ads are going away because of the of the cell phones and e bay and all that kind of stuff right so is the postal service going away because you know email yeah ok well the same thing happened when y comes in we looked at the top twenty longevity cultures on earth we did it through national geographic we looked at we read sixty years with a national geographic's because we knew we'd have to spend millions of dollars of our personal money and years and years and years if we don't believe this one and we'd argue about that when we took everything from the national geographic give them plenty of credit and so forth we use their pick of the top twenty longevity cultures we have forty times one hundred they have one hundred year old perve two hundred fifty them well i thought that's what it was in the beginning but the universal thing that they picked was they all use wood for fuel and by dumb luck pharmacist's been by dumb luck when you look at the agricultural schools the universities in the countries in which these cultures exist actual analysis of the land that they grew their food on and they got the trees if they use for wood for fuel they had sixty middles or so i don't my dumb luck yeah that's great we talked to a friend aaron just a few minutes ago and he's an amazing amazing testimony to your everything you talk about one hundred pounds everybody wants to lose weight obesity is rigged the deal with the number one obese nation the world where the starving we are it's crazy with out there by by twenty thirty they asked me fifty per cent not overweight doc obese ok so how can we use the mighty ninety to lose some weight especially now with christmas and thanksgiving is happening pokies my you know i need to lose weight well again pharmacist ben are the number one obese nation where we spend more money for health care than all the nation's world combined yet we're the number one obese nation what's going on here what that tells you need to be too bright to stand back and say how can we be the number one of the states were what does it say about the level of understanding of obesity by our doctors our government they know nothing otherwise we'd be number two hundred forty right we'd be the thinnest people on earth and healthy as well that we're number one obesity because they know nothing about obesity point five calories per gram as opposed to nine calories per gram for fat you can't buy fat fat free low fat no but what you know that we're still obese ok and that's because it is not a disease of excess is not a disease of lack of exercise when you're obese or even overweight disease of deficiency or deficient in a couple of minerals so obesity is actually a deficiency disease yes obesity deficiencies of a couple of minerals right and a symptom of the deficiencies couple minerals is the munchies i think you're the by using the oh yeah so what are the minerals i won't tell you but i tell everybody what i want to do is get that book hell's kitchen and read the whole story ok so it's just a couple of minerals that will take care of the my cheese well it's well there's two let's go get the minerals they're trying to try to find these minerals driving you to eat something in the minerals yeah yeah ok so using the mighty ninety and using these minerals will take care of the munchies and take care of the weight loss so now you if you just get on the alex paktika ninety cents a neutr right you'll lose ten fifteen twenty pounds in a month with all the time without even thinking yeah because suddenly now your portions are all automatically get smaller been tired throwing food away yeah and you're not going to eat between meals you'll take some snacks and thing you know  has a mere replacer in it which is eighty calories and no sugar so it's great for diabetics and need to lose weight it's only eighty calories you could have two of those meals a day i like to throw in a couple of aides and make it water you're only going to get like a two hundred fifty calorie meal two of those five hundred calories you can have a three hundred five hundred calorie meal you're down below a thousand calories and you have all your nutrients you have all your nutrients right because you're still going to take your ninety's and right as your take your alex back even though you've cut your calories your portion control is way down here but you're still taking your about that very point harlem and so instead of going and getting prescription injections right you do this yourself right and you're going to lose you know a quarter pound half a pound pound to today depending on how you are with that portion control piece right and just like you said aaron lost one hundred pounds we have thousands of people it's amazing if that's really amazing and i see it around the world people are just as products going around the world and you can even there and use their life their only i mean the likelihood of arthritis and degenerative very quickly but when you say right now they're predicting fifty percent obesity by the year two thousand and thirty that tell you that they don't know what to do because if they know what to do they say ok right now we're thirty six percent obesity will be less what we do it by two thousand and thirty it's going to be twenty percent know what to do they have no earthly idea because their theory has failed them and they cannot believe it's a disease of deficiency in their little pea brains you cannot believe that it's a disease efficiency well they're still operating that steam engine mentality where you put the coal when you get a fire and they don't understand that the body is not a steam engine there's a whole it's a metabolic system you have a mystery system ok now the spin off of that of course they say that people who are obese they have a higher rate of i b s yet as this is sort of cousin disease right they run together but not all the time you can have people who are but don't have diabetes but they do tend to run together and we've known for seventy years that diabetes type should i be as which makes up ninety eight percent of the diabetic population is a simple mineral deficiency disease again is not genetic in any way shape or form right it is not genetic in any way shape or form for emphasis right it is a simple mineral deficiency disease and i have to tell you the story you'll appreciate this pharmacist there's a fell out there the name of gerry murphy he's  of one of the largest i think the third largest medical laboratory in america he services seven thousand hospitals and tens of thousands of doctors private offices every day but his medical average for this guy's got three for twenty five thirty years right and so i say yes or i can help you i can i can get you a one c hemoglobin now below five within a couple of months i can get your blood sugar down below one hundred without medication i'll be an x diabetic he looks at me like oh yeah right you can get me one see him a globe and down from eight point nine down below five the ninety days to get my blood sugar consistently down below one hundred without medication but in ninety days i'll be your best friend wow i'll fly around my jet plane i will show up spontaneous it means you won't even know disappear and give my testimony i will brag about you i will put every one of my employees on your program and i'll stop on last year and you knew you could do it you know self insure you've been doing it every day for forty five years and so he's about to tell you what if you fail if in ninety days you haven't got rid of my diabetes i'll hire somebody whose only job is to go around every place you're going to give a talk and tell everybody in the newspapers interview be interviewed tell anybody what a quack you are right as ok jerry let's do it let's go down to four point three and his blood sugar went down to sixty two without medication that's amazing and you know what it's you the way you put it and the way you frame it it's easy it's easy and i want everybody to understand this is easy if you have diabetes if you have a blood sugar problem and you've been told you're going to be on insulin the rest of your life that you have enjoyed the rest of your life this is easy because the metabolic problem once you change your body's chemistry it can't help it follow now  that gets us to what i my personal favorite product and you know we are a paper products that my person pay product is the sweetie yes and that's because that's the secret sauce that's the secret sauce right chromium and the name and these two minerals are so amazing for blood sugar real quick if you could just tell listeners a little bit about quote specially but a little bit about the name these two minerals have been known again for seventy years to support your body's ability to metabolize carbohydrates and fats and sugars at the support healthy blood sugar by sensitizing your cell membranes to insulin and so they do there's sort of the cofactor necessary so your cell wall can recognize insulin right so it can speak the language of insulin people who have type two diabetes contrary to what doctors tell the there's actually a component in the body called a glucose tolerance factor which chromium and i think the name might be part of part of the are part of that glucose tolerance but then it's something your body put together when you have those nutrients right just like your bones what's the secret sauce for bones well minerals reverse and you know what's interesting is you could be a hero so fast when you tell when you get people like you like this guy you're talking about jerry you could be a hero so fast simply by putting people on these of these kinds of the central nutrients and how many people how much death and destruction and does and does nightmares to something like diabetes cause in this country well next obesity is the biggest single cause factor in medicine today one third of americans thirty percent of americans have type two diabetes and how many pre diabetic combined not any country all nations avar and history and we are the sickest culture in his land and something as simple as supplementing with nutrition making sure that you're eating correctly away from the bad things day away from the bad things can make such a huge difference it's been such an honor pleasure i appreciate your form has just been there i really appreciate it because fifteen years ago how about my hats don't tell you came to me you said i really want to learn from you how to use nutrition to help my patients and people i know and you kept your a very proud of you for that thank you i appreciate it well that's all the time we have for today thank you so much everybody it's been a pleasure and an honor i'm form spent doc wallach thanks a lot of what he's thinking and talk again