we don't that we have recently been hearing about shared scooters coming to santa barbara which if you know anything been following about this in the media it's actually pretty  santa monica austin san francisco seattle portland and so we are developing an emergency ordinance that will be at city council on june th and just just to can't really discuss it it's not on the agenda but just as an announcement format what that looks like what that will look like roughly is a limitation on the number of scooters that can be in the city it'll be a pilot program we're recommending to council with the maximum of two vendors and there's all sorts of qualifications that they will need to to submit and apply to as a part of a request for proposal from the city we're gonna try to move fast because we do feel like there is a benefit it doesn't appear to be that their scooters are used by cyclists it's kind of an everybody wants to use a scooter much more popular than the bike share and so the accessible of disabilities so we're looking to regulate them we're doing that in fast fast order we have heard that there are some companies that have leased space in the city so  and and perhaps employed people locally so we could actually see an influx even this weekend don't know if that will happen and we're also ready with a an ordinance for a fee fee so that we can actually deal with that pretty quickly wow so i just wanted to it's kind of going fast we just are finding out this is all happening in the last two weeks actually the public works director rebecca bjork has taken it upon herself to draft the ordinance so it's that fast that quick that agile and again that'll be on council for june th so if you want to follow that that's the date we'll have the discussion at city council thank you we'll try to keep you posted a quick question on that you mentioned dhoklas scooters but will bikes be included under the ordinances yes it's going to be called shared mobility services is that a potential future agenda item for us yeah it's a really good question it's not necessarily in the purview you govern mainly the circulation element and the bike plan and the and the pedestrian master plan so general plan related things recommending the consistency with the plans and then recomme can recommend to the city council i'm happy to bring back status reports and let you know what's going on i think it's important just from a standpoint of having more city official tight folks just understanding what the process is so we can get the word out and understand what the city is doing in and really build the trust and high regard of the team which is really what we want to do be responsible yeah and they they've also they're also implementing the ordinance okay we've just been joined by committee members isn't horne for the record and let's move on to the approval of the minutes from the february done well let's move on to our brand new quarterly mtd waterfront presentation yeah so we have steve moss here from mtd and this i understand this committee and of city staff your next report that you see from us regarding the shuttles will be a quarterly report covering the period april may and june there also be an annual report as you've seen in the past will continue to provide that and with that i'm happy to answer any or attempt to answer at least any questions that you may have about the three the last three monthly reports that you have in front of you you old fleet will be in utilization because it doesn't show up on the bus tracker or any of your automated systems it's a great question you may have noticed some of you at least that you are starting to see the new shuttles in service in mixed in with the old ones our hope is that by the end of summer that switchover will be will be completed that's not a certainty at this point we're still working with the manufacturer of the new shuttles to to address just last remaining issues but that's our hope steve do you have any trends that you'd like to point out to us sure as you probably have noticed the the riders hip on the shuttles through march is is down somewhat from the previous year some of that there's i think good explanations for for example the fact that beginning with this fiscal year you may recall in our agreement with the city we eliminated the first hour of service on the state street portion that used to start at nine zero it now starts at ten zero the same as though as the waterfront service always has and in our analysis prior to making that decision to eliminate that we found that on average maybe forty people were writing that hour of service so with the nine months under consideration two hundred and seventy two days that could be approaching eleven  writers do to that to do to that to that change as you may know to the number of cruise ship visits is down this year from the previous year and that's i don't have a number to attach to that but we do know that you know there's obviously additional ridership from cruise ships so anytime there's a decrease in the number of cruise ship visits that affects ridership on the shuttles of course the the two tragedies that we had the fire and the debris flow affected you know downtown visitors and thus the cruise ship i mean i'm sorry the shuttle ridership as well and i know the city's transit occupancy tax which is sort of operates as a surrogate for visitors is somewhat down you're over from a table i just looked at a year to date it's down by like two percent so not not hugely significant but still does seem to suggest that there are overall fewer visitors to the city this year than there were in the previous year so all of those factors we think account for a substantial portion of the the decrease in ridership we're still continue to analyze reasons for you know further reasons for decreases and in fact in march and in april which you don't have in front of you we saw fairly substantial decreases and we're really looking into that and trying to determine what other factors beyond what i've mentioned might account for that but we don't have answers for you yet for that thank you welcome any more  questions i was gonna comment that the the passengers the passengers increased for february with the revenue hours down i thought that was interesting i didn't mention neglect to mention out there was a nice increase in february and we were hopeful at that point but then march and april i remember i reversed how our potential riders alerted to the availability i'm sorry how our potential riders alerted to the availability of the shuttles we don't currently have a particularly targeted shuttle marketing campaign that's certainly something we can look into doing  i have had a question about so this weekend's gonna be pretty warm and i know the new shuttles have removable windows but i haven't seen them removed is is there a is there an issue with those i know they're they're not plexiglass they're actually glass a little bit heavier i'm not an expert on this by any means but i do know that they're it's a lot more involved taking the windows out and putting them in in those shuttles than it is in the old the old shuttles that can be done another factor is the new shuttles have air conditioning and we might have the chilled ones didn't and we might have you know people actually preferring them in i think we're you know see how that plays out but but i know the intent the hope of the city and of mtd is to be able to have the windows to be able to come information i believe there's a fair exchange process with the train does that apply also to the shuttles yes anyone who has a valid amtrak pass can ryde shuttles for free and we have an agreement with low say i'm the agency that manages the amtrak service and they they pay us the fare so yes free for anyone with a valid amtrak ticket good point thank you for mentioning that i should always mention that at these meeting yeah and as a follow up question to that is their way of connecting the new commuter train to the shuttles themselves as a way of getting people to work well you know we don't operate the shuttles that early in the day so it would require quite an investment of funds to to extend it to that early morning hour but you know we can look at but there is connecting service of course to the train yeah okay just s the morning and evening commute train well and the connecting service sure i mean i i don't have any statistics on that with me because i wasn't prepared for that but i know a little bit about it we were having very good ridership on the we have three routes let me bit we have one serving the santa barbara depot and to serving the goleta station one going west down hollister and the other going east down hollister the the west colita route is doing very well that's our highest ridership no surprise with all the high tech employees employers out that way the santa barbara route is next doing quite well the goleta east route is is our least used currently but you know there's still a lot of room to grow as the train service you check in okay i think we're ready for the staff report on the east cabrillo boulevard improvement and i do have one request form and the that person will come after ya usually what we do is we do the presentation and then commonly have committee member questions and then do the public comment and then and then deliberate this item is going to be presented by daniel gullet who runs the transportation planning section for our division and he's gonna say all this but just for your entry the thing to be paying attention for is that this item is going to be going to council so it's a little different for you you're actually recommending that this be approved at council and it's a little different because it's a variation from what the bicycle master plan says so we want to go to council to get their blessing on this item thank you we do thank you good evening jared regas committee members so this this project implements a project in the bicycle master plan so the bicycle master plan describes improvements on boulevard east of milpas so between milpas is most patas to accommodate an additional bike lane so to do so the bicycle master plan has one westbound travel lane removed and as rob mentioned we're here tonight to describe changes to this plan the main driver for the changes is application of our vision zero policy  this aerial shows the extent of the project here's milpas and  project was actually approved by planning commission may seventeen so this would be east of what we're describing today this will provide an important regional connection  for active transportation through the freeway to coast village road and down to channel drive so again this is lois pato sand it would be the western extent of this restriped project so your committee's seen vision zero a couple of times you reviewed the outline the a draft plan vision zero was adopted by city council in october two thousand and sixteen it was subsequent to the bicycle master plan so with all of these projects and applications of the bicycle master plan were we're looking at collision history we're looking to to make these facilities safer so the the draft plan included fifteen priority corridors where we're seeing concentrations of collisions at cabrillo boulevard one of those fifteen so this section is on that list with collision history it shows  many solo vehicle collisions through this stretch so that that implies that they're traveling at unsafe speeds there was also a motorcycle fatality early last year related a u turn that took place from the parallel parking adjacent to the beach volleyball courts so this this concept design is to  address those identified safety issues with vision zero that would improve safety for all users add new bike lanes on cabrillo consistent with bicycle master plan and it ha s the added benefit of adding additional beach access parking a secondary benefit that follows with the safety improvements so the first element is buffer lanes so buffer bike lanes weren't included in the bmp the bmp points to best practices so as part of best practices buffer bike lanes are in there it says where appropriate considering the context  you've seen these and other restriping projects on bath street shoreline drive hansa safety for bicycling provides additional distance for bicyclists from traffic and parking increasing comfort for bicyclists and it ends up appealing to a wider cross section of bicyclists the other aspect of this change project is a change along the street so what this proposal includes is something that we don't have in the city of santa barbara we we do have some local examples reverse angle parking  closest example is downtown ventura down from city hall on the hill there's reverse angle parking this is used fairly widely across the united states not much regionally it's being considered hollister avenue currently there are several benefits to reverse angle parking it increases driver visibility it makes it safer for when drivers exit the parking space and it defines a parking space so you know where the parking space is improve safety for pedestrians and bicyclists results in fewer collisions at this particular location there's  better unloading and unloading for beach activities your trunk and your doors are facing toward the beach you're not having to be out in the traveling and this is a rare opportunity to increase beach parking or a municipal code says you can't even you can't add any parking on the channel side of cabrillo boulevard so this is one of those very few opportunities to increase beach parking and this would increase beach parking by by more than fifty percent and include disabled parking which we don't have right now this is a sketch by our esteemed traffic engineer derek bailey so this shows the orientation of the parking a buffer bike lane for westbound and i have a  short video that the city of carlsbad did describing reverse angle parking it's safer for loading and unloading reverse angle parking is fairly new to north county so here are some simple instructions to get you started in three easy steps first you'll need to find an available parking space and turn on your signal to let other know where you intend to park next pull past the space and stop finally put your car into reverse and back into the space using your rearview mirrors to see the parking links that's it when it's time for you to go it's easy to merge into traffic since your car is already facing the street and it's also easier to see cyclists and pedestrians that's it now you're ready to go intersection so it's currently signalized this proposal includes conversion of that intersection to an always stop so this would allow a safer transition from the merge to two eastbound lanes and the overall delay of this change is expected to be comparable of what it is now so this is the it's the entrance to the east beach parking lot also so this is the proposed configuration so the left turn lanes would be removed these would be through lanes you can turn left onto nino's and into the beach parking lot when it's your turn a issues in the parking lot for beach goers exiting the parking lot so we are asking your committee to review and comment on this concept and we recommend that you recommend city council approval of this concept design so that concludes my comments and we're available for questions and i'm sure there's one thing that i'll add just to make sure it's perfectly clear in the main element that's changing from the bike plan that was it's really different is that in the bike plan it was the removal of one westbound lane there's four lanes on the on cabrillo right now and this plan requires a one westbound and one eastbound removal to get the all the safety attributes the benefit is there there's a secondary benefit of the additional parking at the beach which i'm sure many volleyball players will appreciate but the drive of the program is taking what is the bicycle master plan proposal and bringing it up to a level of safety that's required by our new vision zero policy we don't want to see the repeated  collisions and many many close calls that are happening along the beaches people are making u turns from the beach we don't think we can prohibit them from doing it and this this particular angling really facilitates and makes it much more safe to do so so just to lane in each direction it's it's east of sycamore creek bridge that's where you have that condition between there and potus i'm sure there's gonna be several questions so go ahead susan i didn't actually realize until i saw the the animation that people are gonna go past the point and back in i've never seen that anywhere and it surprised me so much and i so i'm wondering how it works that you're not is there a place enough room for people to pull member horne and so you you have a similar condition right now with the parallel parking where if you're not the first one there you are going in front of the parking space and backing into the parking space it is we are anticipating larger vehicles too so there will be more buffer area but there  you would be pulling across the the bike lane at that position and backing up across the bike lane so i actually had the first thought and i was like wait cars do that already that happens all the time so i guess and and the good news is it's easier and safer to pull out right parallel parking is a little dicey er especially if you're on a bike car just comes out of nowhere you at least can keep an eye out one question i'm curious i've seen an in ventura but i haven't you know studied it to see how it all moves but what i'm curious about is for people who are heading in the opposite direction so it on the other side near the refuge you know you might think hey look at all those parking spaces that i can just pull into i'm wondering what if there's signage or what there would be to share that concern it would be illegal to do that so part of its enforcement and getting enforcement out there and making sure the behavior is established so what we see for for this parking areas repeat users i think people will will get it people see the cars parked correctly and and do that but it will it will take some learning yeah and i would encourage staff to reach out to places like time because the the mass term was being changed so we just put a nice new step right there is there possibility of use of that shiny new master i'm somewhere else or is probably not is the answer i don't know that we have a similarly length mass time anywhere else in the city mast arms aren't incredibly expensive it was only about of i want to say about a eastbound mast arm we were doing preventative maintenance the intersection we found significant corrosion in the master armand we were worried that it could fall at any second and injure somebody so we had to remove it unless he always thought but it took about six months to come in there they're kind of a specialty item they come from oklahoma made to order but it was really interesting during that time there was no congestion the people on time to cycle around through all the different movements and especially if you're on a side side street or you're pedestrian it's a long wait and so we you know as we started thinking about this project and how to transition from the two lanes going eastbound safely to one lane it just seemed like doing it from a stop condition rather than the potential for somebody going quickly through that intersection on a green light just seemed like a much safer thing to do with the better hope that light turns on and off and takes a while so yeah i appreciate it i was just curious about the mass term thing since you mentioned is a it was a brand new one but um and then my other question for mister gold is timeline wise on this how does it all match up with um with the list potter's project or does it the lowest polo's project isn't funded so that is fall i'm gonna follow because i want to comment on this i find it amazing that to be taking out a stop a light i don't think i've heard of that in six years it just i don't it sounds like the right stop signs again can we use any of the blinking light type system that we're using like on milpas i know i know we talked last meeting about how that isn't really an inexpensive thing but i'm just wondering a lot of tourist traffic across those crosswalks charrid regas the flashing lights the the milpa style ones there's even some just half a block down at corona del mar and  cabrillo because they're yellow lights they're actually warning lights so they're to alert drivers that there's somebody there that they need to yield to they're not compatible with stop signs so the the reason to use something like that is to draw drivers awareness that they need to stop so being cabrillo and being a beautiful roadway we want to minimize flashing lights where possible they they are very effective at the crosswalks but they do set dark most of the time so our idea is to actually have if you look up on the screen there if i can in the middle this little striped median will probably put some bots dots around there we'll have a center mounted stop sign as well so it's very visible from their distance as opposed to having just one off to the side of a very wide road kind of the next step up from that would be you can get led borders around the stop signs if drivers just aren't recognizing the need to stop but we've never had need to do anything like that in the city we find that if drivers don't stop it's usually not because they don't see the stop sign it's more a compliance issue so in in short sigh i think the the center amount of stop signs would be very effective in communicating the stop condition  you pointed it out i realized the the different needs okay but that's appreciate that continuing on that intersection it seems to me that going back to the flashing four way red would be better than trying to rely just on stop signs and if you did that then you also have the option of doing something that  has done right by the senior center on hollister where their crosswalk there is a solid red not a flashing yellow now it starts i think as a as a flashing yellow and then goes to red but i'm not sure the sequence there but it would seem like one or the other of those two crosswalks crossing ought to have some protection for pedestrians and it would seem to be fairly simple to do at this point  community member green that's a really good point the the application in goleta is a little bit different because it is a crosswalk and it doesn't provide any control for side street traffic but what you mentioned about leaving the lights flashing red that's actually something that's a really good idea and we would do if we do move forward with this project just to supplement the stop signs maybe for the first month or two just to get people used to  stopping but again if we leave it like that when we've got this flashing light condition on cabrillo that's i think ultimately people would appreciate if we didn't have that on there and i think once people get used to the stop it is yep so the the flashing red and the stop signs can be used together because they mean the same thing  i understand what you're saying there there is no such change of control and it always stopped to an all red like what you're saying you know we have to follow a  traffic manual that defines all the different ways that we can operate traffic control devices and that's not one of them i understand what you're saying to further enhance pedestrian visibility we will be painting high visibility crosswalks across cabrillo as dan mentioned the center area will be used as a refuge but to go to an allred traffic signal would actually conflict with an all way stop they mean two different things  sorry i would depend on the existing signal apparatus and since the existing signal apparatus has a yellow lincoln's in it then it seems to me that if they  pedestrian then you could go to solid yellow for five or six or whatever seconds and then go to the solid red and that would i believe comply with the the intent as they understand the traffic manual  it wouldn't there there is no there is no hybrid model of traffic signal operations with flashing red always stop operations there's really just one or the i have a question it goes from a single lane eastbound to two lanes at the stop sign there at nino's and then it goes from a single lane westbound to two and then continues to do i see that correctly yes and what is the reason for dividing it into two from a single lane going eastbound for example  create quite a bit of congestion there if it was just one lane in each direction as far as looking at the left hand side of the screen there with one lane i'm just gonna pan through okay to this block here there's a few different ways we can do this in order to meet the intent of the bicycle master plan this is milpas intersection here on the left this is k port to buyer corona i'm sorry about my intersection is mixed up on the south side is the east beach parking lot on the other side of the pavilion the bicycle master plan calls for bike lanes in this block so the bike lanes that dan described going in parallel to the bird refuge would go all the way to this intersection and the reason this intersection is important from a connectivity perspective is for  westbound just off the left hand side of the screen is actually where the westbound bike lane begins right now so if we can get that bike lane all the way to memphis street then we have a continuous bike lane along c throughout the limit of the city as far as eastbound goes there is no bike lane eastbound at all honker brio right now and we're proposing this is where it should start at milpas it seems like a logical place to start one just because that's where the beach way ends on the south side and as his share o before that yes yes and this block is not wide enough to accommodate all the traffic lanes that are there right now and have bike lanes so by the time we get to corona del mar with its left turn lane we have to either drop an eastbound lane which we're showing in this sketch or a westbound lane  at's something we can work out in design and play with the operations as to which one works better as far as what we're showing here in this sketch as traffic is going east through the milpas intersection it would taper into one lane where would stay one lane until it got to nino's where it would flare open to to temporarily just for the stop sign and then back down to one alternately we could go back to that intersection right there and in this area right here just west of the intersection we would have to bring those two westbound lanes together into one and carry that all the way to melt this in order to get that room for the continuous bike lanes one side of the other has to be one lane in front of the pavilion and the bike lane itself will have a striped buffer so next to it we haven't worked that out yet  preferably we don't know if there's quite enough room through this section but it's definitely our preference to incorporate that into our designs where possible okay thank you this is a great project i really love it and the it seems like it's one of the less expensive ones because it's so much striping and not so much infrastructure changes yeah  city is going to be doing a pretty extensive pavement maintenance effort and this street is one of them so when the slurry happens we have a blank slate to work with so if we want to change the striping configuration when these pavement maintenance efforts happen that's the ideal time so as far as the striping goes there's there's really no extra cost mister garlotte mentioned will likely need parking bumpers to back up  we're also thinking maybe some of the plastic vertical delineators along each stripe so as people are backing up they have something to guide themselves we haven't quite worked that out yet but those features are probably the only features above and beyond the work that's already going to be happening being portrait and fitting and seeing it on the screen all together but even the sequence here is not the same sequence you know west to east or east to west this is you know scattered around and i find it a little disconcerting i i think it would be helpful if you had at least one kind of positioning that showed the four segment detail and in that one indicate number of lanes  you see on westbound bike lane sized buffered or not it looks like there's only one block of buffered bike lane is that right committee member green thank you for the feedback and  we'll definitely do a better job next time with that we definitely know we can get buffered bike lanes adjacent to the refuge so that section between los  that's pretty long stretch we can get buffered bike lanes on the north side of the road there definitely i believe it is i i've brought the sketch up on the screen where the reverse angle parking section is and what and i know i apologize it's not very obvious but this little this is supposed to be a buffer between the travel lane and the bike lane  we haven't spent a lot of time engineering this yet we really want to hear from the community before we go for it it is going to be quite an effort for us to put in time to really dial in all the design so at this point we're working with hand sketches and really just trying to get feedback on this so i apologize the sketches are a little crude when might it be scheduled to go to coun we're looking at august for that date it can happen as prizes latest september as mister bailey mentioned we are going to do this in the fall so it's in preparation for a contract and just to echo  bailey said we're we're trying to hurry you know the slurry the slurry seals projects are coming with measure c and we're not slowing down for him so i would anticipate more more of these meetings where we're saying hey we got this great idea slurry little seals coming in town really quick you know what do you think because of the change in cabrillo boulevard it's it's a it's a big deal it was it was a big deal for the bicycle master plan to to drop that westbound lane question dan you mentioned early in your talk a single vehicle collision i don't understand that term so what does that mean i mean if it's a collision how can it be pattern of collisions that we've found along cabrillo is eastbound and they're not negotiating that first turn so they're lasting right through and smashing into the nice stone wall that surrounds the clark estate it's happening more than you think and we think that going down to one lane is going to be and just introducing some side friction just making it feel less like a wide open speedway style street is is a way to just introduce some control into the way people are driving through this area got it i wasn't thinking of hitting stuff just other cars  yes and then on that same line i wasn't clear on i think you said we you're not allowed to increase parking because it's in the coastal zone is it that you get the same number of feet but if you can pack more cars in lucky you so the municipal code and our coastal policies say don't don't build any more  wave your magic wand and get more parking when you just said you couldn't get more parking i didn't hear it completely okay any more questions before we have some public comment and then discussion okay okay very and this is uh just some not item four and you get to come back delighted by the this turn of events here we've also have been conferring with mister bailey on some of these items were thrilled to see that vision zero is playing a major role in the decision of that staff has decided to augment the bicycle master plan update in in leaps and bounds i'll have to say but this is this is a big pill to swallow you know even for for me speaking on behalf of coast and we're going to admit that what we w also want to recommend is that this not be seen merely as a road diet to increase safety for bikes and pedestrians again the ten and civilian zero is that we increase safety for all road users and as you've seen from what mister gullet has mentioned the previous collision history isn't as much about pedestrians and bicyclists but its its motor vehicles it's its motorcycles being hit by a u turn car and and and so if it weren't for the first of all again i'm amazed that i'm really want to see i'm going to be attendance at city council will see this go before them because there's been there's been questions asked about the initial bike master plan project about taking one lane out and now we're gonna think about taking two out you know that's again that's a big pill to swallow however if it weren't for the los patos roundabouts that are going in that are gonna help increase the flow of traffic through that corridor this would be something that really i think you know should be would be something that people be concerned about however because of that project eventual eventually going into place this traffic flow and the capacity and if we have full faith in mister bailey's analyses to predict that this corridor will still be able to handle that capacity and even with the ninos intersection we see this as really a big win win for the city not only for pedestrians and bicyclists but also for motor lanes protected and buffered bicycle lanes throughout this corridor to be able to enhance that thruway so that not just the hardcore bicyclists can take the class to bike paths and it opens it up in that respect for more people to be able to opt for that is a great thing so we really wholeheartedly encourage you to support this because i think that the city council is going to need to hear that that support because they're gonna i'm sure have questions about it and we appreciate your pushing it see if we like it and i move that the committee recommend approval of this project to  council is there any discussion i wanted to provide a few comments um so first of all i just wanted to congratulate staff on an incredibly well thought through project you've clearly thought about how all the pieces connect together and i'm really impressed with  agree this is an excellent project and i'm excited to see ci move through and i guess the last thing i would add just to allay any of my fellow committee members concerns or others out in the public i have seen and experienced angled back in parking many many times other places and it's a beautiful thing it actually really it takes a little while to adjust to but once you do it is much safer much faster and much more convenient thank i think the presentation was very clear is there any further discussion i have a question that perhaps i should have said earlier but right now below the clark mansion i believe it's two lanes each way for most of the way toward one hundred and one and it's going to this makes it look like it's going to continue out of the los perros exchange to be two lanes westbound is that noting that there's one entry and one exit lane so rate at the roundabout itself we're dealing with one lane in each direction the sketch that the consultant for this project the roundabout project made shows it opening up to two lanes from a capacity perspective it's not needed we have one lane exiting the roundabout there's really no major intermediate access  points we have one lane feeding into a section all you need is one lane to serve it so it's a really good observation but with that it's just striping and we have the flexibility to design that as appropriate moving forward the expectation is it will be one lane westbound from the circle yes be consistent with the already approved bicycle master plan yes thank you oh one other question if i may how parallel parking space we generally assume to be about twenty feet long that's the amount of space that people need to maneuver in and so for example if we have a one hundred foot stretch of curb we assume there's five spaces for the reverse angle parking it probably needs somewhere in the neighborhood of seventeen to eighteen feet you don't need the space on either side too exactly we've in our sketch we showed a twenty foot deep install i guess you call it  we haven't quite done the design in yet but between the traffic lane the bike lane and buffer and we just think we need to be generous with the space there community member horne asked the question earlier about well how do they how do drivers enter the space and we think what's probably going to happen is people are going to pull over into the bike lane and then back in and now to leave quite a bit of room still on the outside of them for moving traffic and can still go around so there is flexibility with our dimensions but that's roughly what we're thinking right now  i would like to add the comment along the lines of jennifer's comment that dovetailing existing projects and new opportunities this is a really elegant design you guys have taken several sorry applications are due july st and if you'll remember february of this year we came before the transportation circulation committee to discuss the state street under crossing  project so these are the two projects that were planning to apply for in this cycle of the active transportation program it is a statewide program it's a very competitive program and it's to fund bicycle and p projects throughout the state in order to make a competitive grant application generally you have to have these elements incorporated into your project and your application it's best if you apply for a project that benefits both bicycle and pedestrian access as opposed to just one or the other if it if your project addresses documented safety issues so if there's a demonstrated pattern of collisions that your project will address it's a good thing if your project can benefit a disadvantaged community so it's a community in the program it's defined as having eighty percent or less of the median statewide household income so the state wide medium house median household income is about sixty three zero so eighty percent of that's about fifty one zero so if there's a census tract in the city that has a household income of fifty one zero or less it's probably going to improve the score of your project and also if you're applying for a project that's consistent with approved plans and that's really why we're here this evening is  to talk about the elements of our application and talk about their consistency with already approved plans so as mister dayton mentioned there's actually three elements of the project or three existing plans that we're drawing off of to form this project the bicycle master plan the bicycle component of this project and i'm going to show it to you in a second  was identified in the bicycle master plan so it calls for de la vina street between carrillo and hailey it's five blocks to be taken from two lanes down to one lane and on haley street between chapala installation of bike lane on that block as well so in the city that project would look like that it's kind of a l shaped crio on the north end down to haley and then over to chapala where would feed into the existing haley street bike lanes so that's one element of the project we're proposing to incorporate it is mostly striping so it is a relatively inexpensive element to the project but thinking vision zero and thinking about some of the safety issues that we have a long d and we are proposing to incorporate those intersections into our grant application as well and i'll direct you to the map on the screen again the red dots are projects that would be incorporated into this grand top the ortega street intersection already has curb extensions on one half of the intersection but the westside does not have them so we would propose to complete that intersection from a safety perspective what i find really appealing about this project is de la vina street from hailey all the way up to and then the last element that we're proposing to include in the grant application is a project that was identified in the chipola street guidelines and this as shown on the map here  would be curved extensions on the north side of the chapala and hailie intersection and the reason we're proposing to pull that element into the project as well is it is another location that we have an existing collision pattern planned grant application would include the halley and de la vina street bike lanes and there would be enough space to make them buffered bike lanes would look a lot like the bike lanes that were recently put in on bath i will mention that within the active transportation program it is beneficial if your overall project cost is one point five million dollars or the scoring is done a little bit differently and once you jump that one five million dollar threshold there the scoring is done a little bit differently and in order to score as many points you actually have to put in a local match and this is a way that the city could not put in a local match and keep local funds being used for maintenance projects instead of  projects so we haven't finished all of our cost estimations yet so there there is a possibility that one or two of the locations might have to be removed in order to keep us below that one five million but that's something we'll be working out in the coming weeks hi i just wondered because of past history of curb extensions causing a lot of problems for bicyclists and sometimes for cars turning corners and running into the sidewalk can you address that and just say what is the current state of curb extensions as far as how easy it is or hard it would be for bike riders to have good access to the street hornuts a great question we have recent experience on de la vina street with a pretty successful curb extension project at figueroa street our approach to that project was we didn't make the curb extensions quite as aggressive into the street you still have all the benefits of improved sight lines reduce pedestrian exposure because they're not in the streets as often but we were really careful with the design  you know we wouldn't really went movement by movement the drivers could make going around the intersection to and from all possibilities and just making sure the turning radiuses were well done so i'd really point to that intersection as an example of what the rest of the corridor could look like as far as cyclists go cyclists riding safely should be in the lane and not hugging the  curb i totally understand what you're saying that a curb extension could force a cyclist out into the street but if they're riding in the street they're already doing that in and out of parked cars and really from a safety perspective they should just be going straight and the curb extensions not introducing an element of deflection that isn't already there with with park cars so it's it's not really a big issue from our perspective in the past we've been a little more sensitive to where we proposed curb extensions you know vision zeroes really changed our mindset with this and in the past  felt that there might be some opposition in the public as far as their there is a some public members of the public that don't like curb extensions but vision zero has really change the way we're thinking about things and we have an example of a curb extension project at figueroa street that's very successful it's it's working people aren't running into curbs and pedestrians are still provided with a much safer facility with vision zero what the way we're thinking now is you know we really have a responsibility to do this you know there's collisions happening there and it's really our responsibility not to  worry about some of the negative comments you know it's our responsibility to design a really good project that addresses people's comments but as far as backing away from making a street safer we really you i just had a question of in knowing and thinking that figaro is complete is that what that that open red circle means that you wouldn't be doing anything at figueroa right it's already there  i'm appreciating that showing the existing signals on their living that make sense but it is a little off putting because  it it it's not part of the plan i mean it's there it's done it's not new work and and i most the the red dots i think are new work community member green yet yes that's correct the the purpose of the signals being illustrated on here along with the circle of figaro street is just to illustrate that de la vina between halley street all the way up to  will have much better crossings for pedestrians so deal of vienna street it's a principal arterial street that parallels our downtown it's used as a bypass to downtown by a lot of  people and it really acts as a barrier between the west downtown neighborhood and downtown itself so this would just really facilitate movements and that's it's just not not illustrated as part of the project just how it fits into the big picture the thing that the people in sacramento whoever wherever may not know that they living is a one way street community member green our application goes into a lot of detail it's hundreds of pages long it takes a lot of time to put together so those details are included in the grant application or trying to condense everything and abbreviate it for you this evening i just wanted to comment that sola is going to be brought online as a signal in twenty one twenty two so actually there the signals that are listed on this map don't all exist currently and it'll be a big benefit as each of these si arriaga just came online what a couple years ago so it helps create access for pedestrians and for cyclists and what with the bike lane coming on too so that signal will play an important role ramos again coast as you know so i could not have said this any better than mister bailey has with respect to the vision zero elements and we coast really appreciates  how the city is taking the ball and running with it when it comes to applying the tenants of vision zero again so we are in full we're in full support of this project and and there's really not too much more to say about that we hope that you'll concur  and see the benefit that this will bring to to the to the full community again and and to go down to one lane i'm de levinas we want to know another one of those pills to swallow  so but but again this is this is more about talking what we're talking about here is is putting the application together for the grant to to win the funding for that but again this is also to see that this is been something that was agreed upon in the original bike master plan update so we're very encouraged by by the the augmentation of this to also include the pedestrian safety elements of this really takes it to that that full fully holistic vision zero attitude with with the design of this and we commend the city for doing that so again we hope that you'll agree and give your approval for this grant application thank you very much thank you evaluation is that the active transportation program grant application for lowered olivia and haley street is consistent with the bicycle master plan the pedestrian master plan and the mostarda because we happen to get everything we apply for from this program and it's a lot to be proud of and it's and i know that you even have kind of a road show to show other jurisdictions how to you know score their own projects and figure it out which i appreciate though i hope they don't totally figure it out right away so that we can continue to reap the benefits but it's a really a testament to you know we're i know it took a long time to get our  bicycle master plan together but now that we have it i feel like we're checking and now the way i measure see also checking the boxes and getting you know they're starting to connect right soula we can see that that can connect to this and we're starting to fill gaps in the network like we like we said we would so um i i'm proud of this that that we're moving forward and i know that this money won't come for a while this project wouldn't be program for a bit but um i just want to commend staff and folks who who push for this and have worked on it for a long time got a lot to be proud of even just putting the application together whether you get the money or not so um i hope that it continues to be not so competitive for us because of how you've you've figured out how to do these applications so  concur and i also want to commend the staff for the concentration on vision zero and pedestrian and safety for all individuals i think that's outstanding thank you well thank you thank you for that i really appreciate it the a zero has in fact changed our discussions quite a bit surprisingly so i think as we have these conversations about projects you know we were all taught in school this is what we were taught that  that a certain amount of collisions are expected to happen that's what we were taught and so we have been we have been dutifully doing our jobs with that understanding but when you look at it through the lens of vision zero it really changed things and it's going to change the conversation because we're gonna be increasingly coming and saying well if we do this then we expect collisions to reoccur so we're not and then it's it's not as much a community discussion as it is  here's what's going to work so it's kind of something to be thinking about it changes the narrative little bit with the community but then they refer to your comments on the act of transportation planning grants that we've been getting we do have an all star team and we do feel like a lot of agencies don't have the bandwidth to understand the process so when we've done our workshop we've been called upon to teach other people how we do it  we've decided decidedly not given away the secret sauce by any means but but what we found is is really just a lack of fundamental understanding about the way that the process works it's very clear that as we did during the bicycle master plan that you can score your own projects so we get questions like well do you think this project is good and and that's a that's a sign that they don't understand just score the project and then you'll know so hopefully we do continue to be competitive and hopefully another aspect of this is is the active transportation planning grant process has been funded additionally  through sb one that was passed by the state legislature and that is being proposed to be repealed it'll be a ballot measure in november and just to just to say it just  know thinking about as this comes forward and is the community decides at least our community how they're going to vote how it does affect us is particularly for the fifteen million dollar project that we just received in las positas in modoc which is a class one facility that project we wouldn't get if if the gas tax was repealed one hundred and one obviously also as an sp project and would also be something that would be affected by a repeal and  then the cycle for which were applying for now has a certain amount of additional funding because of of sb one so that so the gas tax in november that'll be before the voters will have an impact on how we move forward in the future with freeway and alternative mode  projects i think we can call the question oh sorry susan i just wanted to say that another thing that we learned going growing up and as adults is that people always say safety first they always say that but they don't know what that means and they don't follow that really and this is the first time i've really seen this being implemented in a serious way and i just really appreciate it so thank you susan made a comment i will make one more comment before me it might be the last one i'm not sure but um i think another thing we've quote grown up with growing up in the greater los angeles area myself is everybody has to get everywhere faster and we were just changing that paradigm which is wonderful because i don't i don't want to have to be arguing with folks who are saying well it takes me five minutes longer to get from here to there you're getting there safer you're getting there more calmly you don't need to every road be a speedway it's got a we've got to turn that around so i think the vision zero is a really good motivator to just talk to the speed demons you know the faster faster folks so i like that a lot thank you okay i guess we're ready to vote on our motion all in favor aye okay oh yes you did i apologize well it's unanimous and if you need you know any if the language is adequate i think we want to make a strong statement that  observation is that the grant application is consistent with all three of the plants however that can be stated very clearly okay that's our observation and recommendation thank you very