good evening and welcome to another edition of fistful of popcorn the movie discussion show coming to you from downtown princeton new jersey i'm your host tonight bob brown and as we use our usual custom on this show we take a couple of films and we discuss them sort of in a free form we don't really have any notes planned and we always surprise ourselves as to whether we like things or not  so we'll see what we do tonight we have two films that are sort of low budget but they have some notable stars in them one is cairo time and that is starring our favorite actress patricia clarkson and the other is get low starring a whole bunch of interesting actors chief among them robert duvall and i can't think of anything these have in common except that they're the low budget films but so will discuss them one of the time where our usual panelists minus one are with us today care cairo time i kept calling it kero time i says to me hey it's cairo isn't that i can think of the serial no no there's a kero illinois that's it maybe that's what i was thinking oh yeah well it's the story of a hermit in the backwoods of of probably kentucky it's not clear in the film but it's somewhere somewhere south of illinois but not too far south of illinois in the nineteen come out and stage a funeral for himself and he wants to be there he may feel he's feels like he's getting towards the end of his life and he wants to enjoy the funeral and the of course the secret is that he wants to reveal the secret of why he's been a hermit for all those years so basically that's what the film is about the people in town who are intrigued the undertakers played by bill murray in a very nice young man whose name i can't remember think the young fellow i thought to myself the assistant funeral director thought she looks awfully familiar and that i thought back and i remember the last time i saw him was as a young boy in sling blade that's wh so it's sort of all friends and and worked together before a lot of them and it did have that that sense of by everybody being very comfortable i think if i was just having a good time yeah you know was among others so seem to be a whole raft of producers did what is it justified have you seen any episodes of that that takes place in kentucky similar kind of background similar kind of greedy characters that you didn't see it did  it's based on it could yeah does anyone know the real story of what a truly well i think the real story was that some old hermit had a funeral before he died and i don't think it had i ten it was not whether or not there was well he said i don't want to give that the ending away but he said cheer i was kind of hoping that at this funeral all the people who had stories they heard about him would get up and you know what not then better that would have made a very interesting film course or would them can be good can get to be mythic and also could be could have been somewhat timely this morning on a friend of mine was saying that she liked it very much because it got her starting thinking about her father well he's aging rapidly now and so and if she said just from the point of view of aging and what precipitated somebody to do something in this case he heard about the death of an old friend and that precipitated his funeral arrangements is that right  there's even even that would have been somewhat interesting but to have it devolve into this i just felt that even though it was low budget like you said i just felt that there were a bunch of bright isn't that exactly is because because if you were disappointed in love as he is without giving too much away then and retreated to his little butt but once you retreat to your little cabin and therefore she was interested in him as he was different just that something another thing that could have made it interesting he said money you can do just about anything when you have the money because he had money right and that he had heard that money as  m and i felt that kind of jumps to the juxtaposition of him being a very believable type guy in a very fictional type of story the two things were meshing signed on right and then he lends and then he goes back and then he goes ahead and then i mean all of that was just plain tactics i'm joined watching him i enjoy watching bill murray yeah but then bill murray said something which just made me lose respect right away home and it's when he's anachronisms and sort of shouted and he said you probably want to agree with me but he said at one point in the movie you know what and that's a phrase yeah just and i just didn't work and i and i i actually have to say that i went to visit tried back in the film festival and i'd never been there before and i was so excited to go and this is the you know my daughter got tickets to it was packed i lot of the people stay to find out where it was filmed a lot of people are curious as to as to where it was yeah because it's not the location isn't mentioned in that i think in that in the film they only mention that you know tribes he drives half a day into posted he's weak u n worker who has been posted to the net lease for some time and he's supposed to meet her at the airport but in fact there's been some kind of an uprising in gaza and he's there because he developed he creates refugee camps i think and so he can't come to the airport and that he can't come as sick what seems like several weeks and so he sends his ex courier to come and pick her up and that courier is our friend alexander city and it's a you know what that's about it the character it's such that he's tired and it's they sort of force in with each other because of various things that happen she's very kind of alienated in this world of cairo with eighteen million people packing the streets a protein romance yes yes it's definitely an approach to romance and as a bit when you're not looking for romance romance with the romance that snakes are finite right well for example that french film that we that one and another one there one that reminded me the most of speaking of bill murray is lost in translation yes i was just thinking about two where you have two people in a they're both so well they're they're in a compressed time in space it's not going to last rites just this week just those two weeks or just that month and this intensity develops and they don't know why but they know they're enjoying each other's company beyond anything they've ever really experienced before that's what my good month and the other ingredient there is they're both herself said we've seen the think that life changes happen in the pits in these but they don't they're these slow shifts that you may not even be aware of until they happen i thought all the sudden you decide i love to man how did that happen men swarmed around her like flies some point but she also said one more interesting though she said a lot of interesting things but one things you mention was that she showed the film the two to friends of hers who were both playwrights went to see it with her and one of them said oh so the only way you actually can socialize with her is because she's a foreigner right and it's a didn't do it it's a new experience for him he really hasn't had that kind of friendship right with the woman and and it it now a widow that he couldn't possibly have a relationship with her because it would be disrespectful to her late husband and her daughter that's something you know a westerner can't even fathom thinking that about someone who is a widow but did you find it slightly unbelievable or implausible that he wouldn't have now someone else that he would have been in that hell part was kind of irritated me a bit that he we were expected to believe that he would go through life without marrying tisha i just find it a little implausible but i found i i don't i don't even i don't think it was implied that since he lost the love of his life he'd been pining for her for all those years it's just that to that and i think that's the interesting thing about as you say that you figures out that you can love two men because she's had this relationship with her husband and she it's a very good relationship they're very they're very come very affectionate with one another but they're very yes you know they're very comfortable to the point where she doesn't really see him anymore she misses him but she doesn't she  where when they leave is really she's just a remarkable actress yeah you can't take your eyes off her face and i don't want to as someone pointed out just her features are soft and sharp at the same similar actually roll woman who's living in a foreign country and think she know but i think she knows it all about the men of that country and how you interact with them or don't interact with them and she's a very sharp one about far from heaven when she plays that nosy neighbor with the glasses and the haircut but but the most surprising of all i rented a friend of ours rented high art on saturday which was her first first role where she played a german lesbian heroine you know there's a kind of there's a sexual thing there that hasn't been lived you know while when you fall into the kind of the comfort of a decades old marriage like well she came to cairo actually hoping for of the sexual he has become seeing the pyramids of light waited for you other well exactly she's she lies to her husband about me which are very very strange because you feel i have a feeling that that she hasn't lied to him right but they've had an open right sleeping and waking up at the wrong times of day and she just keeps waking up in the middle of a night or sleeping late during the day and it's sort of missing yeah missing out on on on on starting her day when other people are starting your day so i think i think it does mean both that sort of that interlude right in that in her marriage plus was being discombobulated well do you really want to summarize our feelings about these two films mary oh me first well i had actually liked them both i thought i'd get low was wonderful up until the point where they decided they needed to have a plot and not just take it instead of just a feel i guess they needed some sort of book to get people into the movie and and we all thought they didn't not that bill took them over and cairo time just the opposite they decided they didn't need i did see eat pray love which came at the same time this kind of time and it's another woman going abroad to find yours as well she was going abroad to find herself it's very hollywood eyes of course and it's not subtle at all in fact and it's all one