been over the long forty year struggle in general what is your feeling toward the ultimate possibility a legitimate state of palestine united states and israel could not exist could not have existed were it not for the support of the united states why do you think it is that the united states has over the lo government level particularly conservative period mr reagan mr bush and the thinking or the possibility of we think different thinking of the american backed by the united states great power could impose its will against the will of the people all policy time they simply would not willing to accept the idea that is real had in a certain in israel have tried to change the facts on the ground to create a situation that would eliminate or not make possible an arab state of palestine and the way we think it's there has been much suffering by the palestinian people particularly recently beating broken bones young people maime bad feeling directed against the israelis friday palestine people given the long history of persecution by the by the by the israeli forces will be a difficult process to heal these feelings the most many people who feel great hurt and anger at the israeli entity  it's difficult because they're human understanding yes of course this is you know it's very very difficult for for that to be real do you think the actions of the israeli government  actions of a paranoid or a a reaction that is to use the term psychologically unbalanced and that they are in a  is ironic that the jewish people from europe who suffered so with yellow bad produce under the nazis under the pressure them and were scapegoated scapegoats by european powers and so forth should assume this kind of an attitude towards the palestinian people a scapegoat attitude toward the palestinian people toward the arab people particularly the european jewish again will we be weak this is the perception that they have many of them felt that they were stabbing and shooting the state of israel to protect themselves against ever again being vulnerable to the broader world their sense was they were small numbers and a very large arab world they say they felt a sense of animosity toward them being european and rightfully so not following the words of martin gruber another drop will do it for loss of furs and so forth but trampling on the rights of any and people rather than living with the palestinian people that martin buber and others would have said was the first order of business given the fact that they have done these things in the sense they feel a sense of animosity directed at them a very small three to four million numbers of people against a massive arab nation many hundreds of millions and i wonder if you could address that to do that they will avoid an international peace conference or bringing these issues within the realm of international law because it would need to a condition that they fundamentally simply do not want to  founded in the early stages by many ashkenazi many european jewish people who came in a certain sense with european values european views the population in israel has much more  jews and now more make up more and more of the population of israel itself do you think that this people who have had experience in this part of the base experience in this part of the world the changing nature of the population of president with palestinian state and fully accept that are you more and more confident that there can be the hard cold and meaningful support of the broader arab nation in recognizing the the  obvious leadership of the palestinian organizations and also the fact that palestine is the central core issue to the settlement of conditions in this region and simply cannot be overlooked the nee so arab peace initiative and to the degree that it's possible perhaps through this television and other means of expression a more world liefeld initiative as it were people would support you in that again i would wear out of