embryonic level you can see that some of it is shaping and others still have no shade and then it says that we may make it clear to you that's why this is being told in other words saying if you're in doubt about what we're doing look at this in order for it to be made clear to you and and we will and then we cause what we will to remain in the womb for an appointed time so inside the womb this there is an adjective in the womb as well so this is a life there's an evolution that happens in the womb and some of it will not reach its adjured in the same way as this there could be a spontaneous abortion there could be an abortion that's will or an accident so once the the child comes out it comes into the the first day is one through he says five and there's another one that goes with seven which is consistent with the western tradition you could either go one to seven or one to fift if you go one to seven which is also considered a classical islamic category during these first seven years it's the responsibility of the parents to nurture the child this is a part time that there is absolutely no responsibility none it's pretty habited to to have any physical discipline during this time and even up till ten physical discipline is is not any type of physical violent force is prohibited in any situation whether it's male adult female adult or child is prohibited for any violent physical abuse that is absolutely and there's no proof or justification for it and we're going to look at the verse that a lot of people misunderstand including unfortunately some muslims about that but it's well known in the now in twenty two five it continues and it says afterward we bring you forth as in france the word in arabic this stage is called the  means in arabic to faily is a parasite the fluffers is somebody that cannot live on its own it needs a host so the child needs the parents and this is the responsibility of the parents to nurture the child now the prophet mohammad salada saddam said that every child is born on and this is an important concept in islam still thought is the inherent nature of the human being it's his aboriginal nature is believed in islam that human beings are good in their nature and it is it is diseased societies that will affect the the nature in a diseased way now this obviously does not is not congruity with the traditional christian beliefs of the corrupt nature but there is a similarity between the islamic and the christian belief in that there is a how did that says that every child is born with all black seeds in the heart and this is similar but not the same as the understanding of original  but this is going to be the chill of the actions of the parents affect their children and there are like in the bible the idea of visiting on seven generations is a lot you're dealing with sixty four parents there is that concept in islam that your actions do affect your offspring but there is no accountability of the offspring in other words nobody bears the burden you do not like in some of the chinese traditions you have the idea of inherited curses that a family gets cursed for doing wrong in one generation and their offspring will suffer the fate of that curse but there is a belief in islam that that right just minutes will affect your offspring and also wrongs will affect your offspring  to completely destroy the stuff the parents can do that to the child they could ruin it and that's what happened but i was not children will not be  if they're nurtured properly now there is bad seed there is a concept a bad seed in islam there is definite concepts in other words there is a belief that there are shelters which are demonic but they're not accepted it's not in the articles of faith like the bible and the gospel but buddhist marriages excepted if two buddhists become muslims their marriage is valid they don't have to renew that marriage because marriage is believed to be a divine institution that it was through revelation that marriage came about so marriage in any tradition is accepted and therefore children that are born of legitimate marriage in any  tradition those children have the protection of the the sanctity of the man of the union children born out of wedlock do not have that protection and there can be a facts on the children because of that and one of the things that the pro the where the wrath of bastard children that if you do that to children they will be angry and their wrath will come back to you and he said if illegitimacy spreads amongst the people then they are spreading the wrath of god amongst themselves and the wrath is in the children because that was a right that you have deprived them of they have a right to legitimacy and if you do not give them that you have oppressed them and oppression in genders anger and they're often they don't know why they're angry they don't know why they're angry but they're angry and for our country when you're looking at seventy percent illegitimacy rates amongst certain communities right and the dominant community it's it's i forty percent tile range which a lot of you grew up in an age where girls disappeared in high school i mean it's really amazing how sixty eight and it's really interesting how that's happened in this culture so this fits of our nature is this inherent nature and it is that the potential for good and evil exists but the inclination is to good if it's nurtured but the seed of evil can be nurtured also and if that's done then you get people that will they're inclined to doing bad stuff not good stuff parents after puberty according to the had the the parents are taken to account in the next life but not in this life once the child like if you've got children children that were raised brutalized by their father or a crack cocaine mother who doesn't do anything for a child these types of things the responsibility this is why you can't judge people in this world in any absolute sense the prophet said i was commanded to judge outwardly but not inwardly we do not have the authority to make inward judgment against people we can only judge outwardly and those outward judgment and we have no authority in that realm the variables that are involved in any human action are so vast that no individual can them we can't but responsibility is lives on the adult once you reach adulthood you are responsible and it's not going to hold up in court to have a psychologist in there explaining what happened when they were children and why they're doing that does not hold up in court although chutney our laws are it would be completely unacceptable because islam ik law is organic it's a it's a holistic system you cannot have like was chopped off the hands of thieves and you have a consumer culture where the whole society is is is is is locked in to the system of creating called the chapter of purity i mean if it's a spiritual tradition before it's a legal tradition and so you can cannot impose the legal laws on a materialistic society you have to introduce and this is why the meccans stays perceive the medina and states the meccan state had no the evil rulings it was a stage of changing the perceptions of the people and once that shift took place this radical paradigm shift once that took place then the rule begin to make sense but to apply the rules without that would be injustice which is what you know this is the kind of conservative approach let's just make harsher law see the problem is the laws are harsh  you know why are people doing what they're doing and why is it that our our prisons are over sixty percent in fact in most places it's more like seventy five eighty percent minority you know why that well that's more evidence you know that these are inferior type people i mean there's a lot of that's an unspoken belief amongst a lot of people in this country you know i mean there's a lot of people that are politically correct in their public discourse not in their private discourse there's a lot of people who say well you know these people you know they're different from us they have different values whatever or no value so whereas the islamic situation is saying look what's going on that these situations are being produced what's in general in this because this is alien you see if you go to black african if you go to a gambian village where there's no crime right i mean it's true or not true and isn't it a large percentage of the african americans in this country are from santa gambia right this is this is their genetic inheritance so why is it that a g african in his village is not stealing raping and pillaging and their twelve year olds aren't going around doing gang bang and yet the same genetic diseased society and therefore you have symptomatic past ology and the pathology is manifesting in children that are being raised in a disease in gendering culture so during these seven years it's not encouraged to teach children either because they're learning they have their own learning schedule and in traditional cultures you did not begin to train children until they reach which is consistent also with the the waldorf rudolf steiner felt back in the twenty that if we begin to educate children at the age of five we are going to see precocious sexual development occurring and the reason he said that is is because you're dealing with a divine programming that's designed at if you if you bring programming that's not meant to be introduced earlier then you're going to pull the whole process down so instead of the sexual maturation occurring like in this culture when people who were here might have grown up in the fifty's at the age of fourteen most boys and girls were not thinking about sexual experimentation really they were and you can talk to your parents if you're not that old i mean this is not i'm not making this up this is even the minority has you know  right now if you introduce it's actually considered damaging now this is not true of all children there will be because you're going to have children that want to read at the age of three or four but the vast majority of children are not going to be like that and so they're doing their work between one and seven they know exactly what they're supposed to be doing and you let them do that they're developing their their minds and they're actually all are according to islam and according to a lot of our neurological research it's confirming these ancient beliefs because this is not just islam this is this this is can groups with many tradition seven was an age of initiation in many many traditions and in the classical european oral culture before christianity litter ised that area seven was actually you were an adult at seven you went from childhood to adulthood at the age of seven because in oral culture seven year old speak like adults and you'll notice a radical change in the  ability of a child to articulate at about the age of seven and eight there's a real change in their ability to express themselves and this is why even in england you know in the eighth ninth century seven year olds and eight year olds were being home for horse that which i mean obviously that's horrific but it's indicative of an oral culture and how they view and this is why you will find marriage occurred in oral cultures at early ages also it was not uncommon in in europe asia the middle east africa for an eight or a nine year old girl to be married not uncommon at all because they were considered to already reached  the age of maturation in the oral understanding so at the age of seven they enter into what's called sin new to me these which is the age of discrimination they can't now they're beginning to understand certain certain things that he said you can introduce to them now the concept of time in a real way so they can understand things like that there in time creatures and also the responsibility of actions although they're not fully responsible yet because they don't have all of the hardwiring yet which is the religion of nature of the fit that are given by god and then it says and do not change that nature which is an indication that we can alter the fit of people and we have thousands of years of anthropological evidence that most cultures were benign culture i mean we have a great deal of evidence you know we would like those people who make weapons would like us to believe that we are aggressive by nature in other words that by nature we like to inflict violence and aggression there are  many people that there's there's a vested interest in having that the truth is that most of the evidence that we have from aboriginal cultures is is contrary to that  indians you know this is a good example of a culture that really rejected violence as a as an option and there are many many other many african  cultures where the very clearly the case that that violence was seen as surgery you know you did not use that route unless there was no other alternative whereas in our culture it's primary care it's lines in the sand and anybody who knows error of psychology knows that you that what happened in one nine hundred ninety one was an act of madness complete act of madness and we were as a culture collectively drawn into something that had nothing to do and saddam hussein you know was was literally doing a classic arab posturing because the opec countries renee on a promise that they made that they would help him with his war debts that were incurred during the iranian iraqi war and they were in a dime and he put his troops there at the border as a to force their hand