it's cracking down on those who operators of medical marijuana dispensaries are wondering what's next after federal operators of medical marijuana dispensaries are wondering what's next after federal agents raided about a dozen businesses from seattle to olympia the drug enforcement agency says it's cracking down on those who break the law but it's still fire reports some believe the law is too confusing jason zimmer does not distribute medical marijuana about a hundred eighty clients but he makes a living advertising for those who do we list the doctors collective his website the t h c list dubbed today a very sad day after federal agents raided about a dozen pot dispensaries throughout western washington were all just trying to comply with the law but we just need clear law simmer recently opened the academy of cannabis culture and technology or a c c tech it has everything from cannabis cooking classes to legal seminars we just want clear definition of what those laws are he feels today's raid their evidence the laws in washington are too confusing especially for patients it's as simple as a doctor gave me an authorization but i can't get my medication it's apocrypha it doesn't make any sense i'm a little shocked this man just got authorization  doctor this afternoon and raced from some managed to seattle cross dispensary only to discover the place was closed after a raid this morning now i'm going back to the federal government says it's investigating places raided today for a variety of reasons like selling to unlicensed people or distributing too much marijuana there might be some shady operators out there and they need to be put out of business but state representative roger goodman feels this wouldn't be an issue if the state license dispensary w state regulatory system that was uniform where we knew what the rules were the feds would back off the movement as up and down so for now jason simmer will keep teaching the law while trying to make sense of it in seattle joe fryar  and say that they are not targeting ill patients or their doctors only those will explode state law medical marijuana supporters plan to protest the raids tomorrow outside the federal building in s going to cover some issues today but i want to everybody get familiar with our panel but if you can see in the background that's richie shared calls for dallas homeless budget amendment richie is running for dallas county sheriff at this time so we're going to pipeline him in here for the next ten minutes and probably get some feedback on the platform he's dealing with obviously he's raising a whole lot of like things that they have to look at so i don't mean raising like taking down he's trying to bring it up but anyway we're about to hear from richie here so just a second here  professor and we've got keith doherty and then that's chris mcdaniel scris is the cannabis cook we're going to learn about that here pretty quick one of these days we're going to have a show up and running here pretty quick and we're going to do things from the standpoint then we can maybe cover a little bit of a report from the cannabis legislation is that possible hey that was richie sure and if you guys want to catch on google you tube whatever kind of thing you can find him all over the place ritchie shared dallas just typed it in and i think it's quite interesting that we have such an audience that we are watched a lot in texas by the way online actually and we have quite a following throughout the midwest apparently as well because we're kind of we do it ourselves nobody tells me what to say course not that you might want to hear me maybe do we have no teleprompter i got my own prompt and i got everybody else's props and hey everybody let's get going on some some issues here don issues based on organic we just have interviewed john urquhart a heart to heart and i know that we're going to cover some things here real quick professor gizmo on drones are going up in the background you're mentioning that here in seattle how big little small whatever you know i mean this is a big deal but anyway so don real fast if we get something going as far as let's say your input on what's going on next what happens with five o two let's say five o two gets passed are we going to be able to me to the medical cannabis here in the state in seattle in washington be going to be a real on this one well i certainly hope so because the medical cannabis legislation and the medical cannabis business if you will is totally separate and apart from a dual us the five zero two makes no reference to medical marijuana medical cannabis so or him or him and that's i don't know there's there's farmers in eastern washington third most anxious to get this miracle crop were crazy in this country for not exploiting it and using it and growing it and using it in a variety of ways which we have done of course in the past there the reason that this is illegal is because of greed racism and bishan and greed and nothing's changed in the last hundred years except for the names of a few of the players so it's time to get rational get beyond the the knee jerk emotions about this this is not a drug it's an herb it is  a miracle god given her and we can get you we can utilize in ways that we haven't even been thought of yet but we know it's good for clothing medicine food shelter ship caulking just a variety  sales rope we all all of us have ever had the opportunity to actually use him for oh no that there is nothing that can match it which is course is why the chemical companies want to keep him off the market is because they can't compete with their lousy nylon and grey on him seeds credible we are finding out more and more every day about the incredible curative value that the protein it is the highest source of protein it exists as it's much richer and better protein than you get from animal products dairy products it's just amazing one of the things that's interested me in in him seeds and of course i'm speaking of organic chem seeds because if it's not organic it's poison and we don't want to talk about it but him seeds actually help dissipate some of the unwanted effects of t h c that is of a person needs a certain amount of medication so they can function and w taking him seeds with their medicine it can be gates some of the more psychoactive kinds of things that some strains have now all strains do not and we're finding more and more that are very healthy that do not have the getting high inus if you will and more and more people are looking for that so we're not talking about recreational becoming euphoric we're talking about saving lives here i've been hearing more and more reports from around town and i was just talking interviewing the possible new king county sheriff and he's talking about accountability and one of the questions i didn't get to get was going to ask him do you think that all law enforcement agencies  public and private employers have read their random or denies drug tests really is that kind of control what's going on but many of those positions it hardly would matter i mean if there are many many jobs in which safety is not an issue however people as you say were driving vehicles one hundred hundred twenty miles an hour and carrying lethal weapons that would concern me i'm not concerned so much about cannabis because that would just slow down their dross that they're probably the only ones getting hurt on the other hand other form a suit equal scare me the effects of pharmaceuticals and the effects of many of the illicit drugs which amazingly are on schedule to instead of schedule one where they ought to be things like i understand that but the crack in the crack this being sold in this area nowadays isn't doesn't even have cocaine in it which is kind of a pure sub's substance but what they're doing is they're taking wa spree pellant and cooking it down that just terrifies me what a concept how could anybody in their right mind or otherwise radiate into their body it is horrible horrible damage to them and now of course the problem that we come into politically is this somebody who does this if they were to aso with that or an hour later take even one hit off of a can of a cigarette then there could say see the pot does that to you cannabis does not do that to people it does not it  there's absolutely no brain damage i have expressed concern about youngsters using cannabis and with less it's a life saving situation just because our brains aren't fully developed until we're twenty five but if you will recall for all of us we did a little experimenting with this that the other thing when we were in our teens that's a time when that's our job actually is to experiment to try to see what's working for us so you know they'll try a cigarette they'll try a joint they'll try a can of the glass of beer if it doesn't get out of control that's just experimenting and i don't think there's any problem with that but if it does get out of control it can impede the development it doesn't harm your probably going to be broadcast of real on friday a week from the twenty fifth tomorrow so it's probably going to be you know just before the election we need to cover the issue people you need to think twice about five o two and the discussion is is is it go anybody any good if it doesn't allow for medical cannabis here in the state and this is something i think is very serious that's why i want to get some input from don during said don what will happen to the clinics if it goes through voter b where i'm well i'm i'm certainly hoping that that that five o two will not have an impact on merit medical marijuana medical marijuana needs needs good rational patient friendly regulation that is an absolute truth it's it's just been crazy the way it's mean with the places being shut down and bad places and profiteers selling what they're calling medicine that has pesticides and poison in it i don't consider that medicine we need some really good regulation my my concern with five o two and the implementation is that it's going to confuse police officers as can completely confuse a lot of people who are involved with patients however there isn't by the by the law itself or the proposition is self it would not begin to begin to take effect at all until the summer of two thousand and thirteen ok that is over a year and i don't think the feds are going to let it be implemented then so i'm not really seen a huge impact one way or the other at least not for a while but the clock starts to be able to change the flaws in it and there are flaws in poison pills that that clock starts in december so we would have that two years before anything was implemented to fix what's wrong with it and that's what i'm hopeful for because i do believe it's going to pass in spite of the opposition oh well one of the things i hope to career before this last few days before the election i know if i go to we've civil rights investigator from the federal government pretty funny that this whole thing to swept under the rug and all your tax dollars are being wasted on the agents guy and doesn't matter what it is it's all about tolerance and understanding give one more thing about give us some names real quick names we've got a citizen has it all started with just trying to get unemployment and administrative hearing with judge jean argued in extremely nasty and rude to me in the hearing should have known some was up at that point same thing an c investigator all marburg go very abrupt very very just aggressive towards me in the phone call that's i currently have a freedom of information act about that going to find out exactly what we spoke about i want to full transcript of what we actually talked about not just his notes and this is all taking a lot of time to get i'm confident i will win in the ninth circuit court of appeals this case will be sent back to the federal court and i will win and the reason i went is just too much overwhelming evidence against a district all the lies that have been told judge failure gave me ten minutes in his courtroom after a year of waiting for an employ and it's still fighting for unemployment and that hearing was not even recorded and there was no transcript of that hearing justice marshall peckman refused to reassign my case to an impartial judge judge roberts didn't even hear the case all he did was just follow a motion to dismiss the entire case were it kind of the last few seconds here  much difference to add because it's from what i hear the tax structure set so that did it it's going to double the price of what they at what is on the black market that's so pretty much people are going to go right you know i don't think it's going to affect him but you know the medical week when it comes to medical marijuana i i have more of a practical view than anything else i mean my attitude is  if it's an issue of doctors prescribing medical marijuana as a treatment for glaucoma or as a cancer treatment i think that should be appropriate because there really is no difference between that and a doctor prescribing morphine or anything else i think there are legitimate concerns in not wanting to allow people to grow their own or start setting up mom and pop shops because at that point it becomes fairly difficult to to regulate and you know again i'm not familiar with all the details of the initiative that was passed and what safeguards there were in place but i think the basic concept that using medical marijuana in the same way with the same controls as other drugs prescribed by doctors i think that's entirely that is appropriate and that may require some changes in federal law i will tell you that i mean i want to be honest with you whether i want to use a whole lot of political capital on that what i'm not going to be doing what i'm not going to be doing is using justice department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue simply because i want folks to be investigating violent crimes and  tential terrorism and we've got a lot of things for our law enforcement officers to deal with as well there's another segment of all the live i will be wilson and you're watching us from public access or community access whichever you want to call or just call up some form of t v access that we have a chance to be able broadcast i am will be wilson again and we have a is mentioned in his news reports that our public school system is a private corporate structure and that means that as he mentions that the people who are running the school districts are actually making fifty percent profits on stuffing it in their pockets people and all that well we don't really know but we're finding out which time to find out a corporate school district and that means that gives them the flexibility to do whatever they want parrot lee they can even destroy people's careers and employment things like that it just gets a little bit too far got the background here about keith doherty has his courageous stance as are destroying his family taking away his income ruining his family and i'm not giving him a chance but i'm going to bring this up we're on the verge of creating a medical cannabis industry here in the state and one of the things that i'm looking at is that we're about to hear from somebody that i would think could be the most suited person to be the director for the county for the state  talked about about the gods of the idea that we need a legislative process to recognize medical cannabis but not just cannabis as a medical medicine organic as we hear from don they ideas that we need delivery delivery a in washington state one it's legal in what the largest city in seattle is the largest city its legal meaning it's medically accessible medical access points american for fix safe access as well bring up the background it with don i think it's something for us to consider  you have no oversight by the county's eighty percent prior growing operations it's time from the grower to the dispensary to the patient you can't have just anybody dropping it off in a convalescent center where it's eighty percent of those patients will be get receiving this and it's something that i'm about to hear from from key standpoint we're going to have to get up to speed on that good to see you keith is really good see i got that in the background what do you think is going on first from give us a report on the bill the school district what's this all who is this guy named kruse ricardo cruz you know the court of cruz has worked all over a king county and worked for king county government seattle city light seattle school district twice the school districts now who is public utilities he's married to an assistant u s attorney and that's great except she does buy a different last name catherine warm the bottom line is this i defended the rights of many employees in the school district there were thirty plus workers and i advocated for a safer less discriminatory workplace ricardo said that he stood for something back in two thousand and nine when he first came on board he said that the distinguished tired of seeing the same old faces then he caught himself because he's been in h r and he's been a lawyer for thirty aunt was given the promotion to the ground head of the grounds department over a guy that had twenty plus years experience ryan had maybe six months said the city of man mission city of redmond he personally told me he had problems getting along with older workers women and minorities and i had that experience of meeting some of these people in some of our training seminars in the landscaping industry where the people would come up to me they grimace and they say you work for that guy well i don't know how bad things could be accepted a fact that he had a long pattern of speaking poorly about other people and once you get the sights set on you that's all he does he just hyper focuses on you and wants to find any way he can destroy you he gets paid about an extra fifteen or so thousand dollars a year to run a pesticide management program which means we're supposedly use less pesticides in the district the fact remains that he encouraged all his people to use more pesticide that is that is legal because you can't under reported on the form because that's against w s d a rules so as far as being a whistleblower goes looking right at you ryan and i'm tired of the way you treated me and my family you think it's fun to keep a job nancy larson screams and yells at people because she has a higher fire far and threatens a work improvement plan if i can't get along with ryan why is it that every company i've ever gone to i've been a president in my training class out of fifty six people having no experience in the pharmaceutical industry why is it everywhere i go i get along with people and suddenly you have a personal problem with me and you take out a personal vendetta on me and my family and you know what it's time to pay back the bottom line is ricardo cruz nancy larson and ryan was one of its need to step down there are jobs in the bellevue school district have been protected for far too long the school board is completely negligent in this matter they've done absolutely nothing to even investigate this situation and they just act like nothing is going on why is it then that one of the one of the major attorneys in the seattle school district is coming to bellevue right now has a horrible reputation for violating employee rights just like ricardo had and you know what i know exactly what's going on they're going to continue to bully and intimidate people and those teachers better watch out in the bellevue school district because i'm a small potatoes thirty plus members of a small union that nancy likes to refer to as in house to an office of administrative hearing judge judge gino market and you know there's no such thing as an in house union that just means that as soon as unemployment why because ryan bragged about getting can fired wanted him fired he had his friend mike leonard who always called him for on line was out and mike was told hey i'm supposed to spy on you joe and i'm also supposed to help get keith already fired tony burke fired tony's most senior person in the district right now and they're watching his every move i don't know where they get off doing this because these people are paid to spy on us they're paid to work well all members of the district treat everyone with respect right now our collective bargaining agreement it says that we must we have a duty to really building up their pensions like you can't it's like you wouldn't even believe ricardo cruz paid an enormous sum of money a package worth pretty close one hundred seventy five thousand dollars and you know what the most sickening part of people are struggling to find jobs right now and the bottom line is they're threatening your job and they're telling you you're lucky we're trying to squeeze a few pennies out of the district to help you out and meanwhile when they tell you no for a fifty dollar a month clothing allowance times thirty people in the trade department at fifteen hundred dollars they also walked away that same year with an extra two thousand in their pocket with their little one percent raises at least two thousand each that's jack nancy and ricardo people that sat across the table from me when i negotiate our collective bargaining agreement you can't negotiate anything when it's one handed and these people tell you what you're going to do there is no money on the table except for them and that's about all i can say at this point stuff that i've been to every state and federal agency and nobody stepped forward to help a lot of people say we can't get involved the attorney general's office one of their senior counsel jim wilkinson said oh i'm sorry that's a school district we don't we can't we can actually get involved that's a civil action public employee rights commission told me it's a civil action the whistleblower from the state of auditors office said it's a civil matter see it's a civil matter ok my witnesses weren't even investigate and the reason why is because ricardo brought in his buddy larry sara who was the former assistant bellevue superintendent the bottom line is he is no outside investigator he's an insider he used to work just alongside nancy negotiating our collective bargaining agreement with the trades department larry produced some kind of sixty five page report if you go if you look way back and you look at my l c report it clearly states there was no report the district was going to provide me so how come later on they came out and said they have a sixty five page report it just goes on and on and on and it gets really old but the bottom line is i tell the truth i'll take a lie to test a detector test right now and i don't think those guys would stand a chance against me because i guarantee they'd be out of work and they would be able to find work in other districts because nancy larson felt comfortable calling the issaquah school district to slander and defame my good name a place where i had a reputation for out working just about anyone in that district and it wasn't to prove anybody anything it's just the way i was raised so i thank everybody for their support out there and anybody that's struggling right now i'm here to help you i know a lot about unemployment law right now i'm not an attorney i'm not posing as an attorney but i to tell you this get your ducks in a row you do have to document every move of management because they're going to say what date did it happen how did it happen to you who witnessed it you better get that all all set in place and you better get into writing and get it notarized because if you don't oh by the way you can go to any b c branch and they're all notarized people at the counter so any every single one of them is a notarized notary public bottom line is you've got to protect yourself that nobody  know got in touch me they said we don't get involved this is probably a civil matter so then what happened john lewis is the new c f o deputy superintendent for the bellevue school district he came from mostly i guess what else they made sure that he had to get a new pay range because they said oh we can find a pool of qualified candidates so we have to bump up his pay rates from one thirty to one sixty thousand and they came in at one forty seven plus one hundred fifty dollars a month transportation allowance plus one hundred fifty dollars a month electronics allowance when does it and i don't know some other guy just got hired from walt disney came from l a i don't know if he's got a connection to record or not is named rick gregory he's the public records manager how many more people do they have to hire an administration these people are making over one hundred thousand dollars a year and this up seattle times he wasted over three hundred thousand dollars of our taxpayer dollars and here we go again keith real quick answer we can see right here your family's being broken up they can send donations to you we put the and if we put together a program to help make accountability public access give me a chance to do that as i mentioned the public access is just a means by conveying a message to the community which is why they call it community access what would do you think we need to do from here i mean the you need help you need some kind of support i've talked about the law school students being able to help you and then also the fact is that you are probably the most qualified person in the state to help run the medical cannabis delivery programs and help train it you've got experience in that it could be we could help try to create some form of future think that maybe with your super talents and dynamic leadership it would make a difference and i'm just saying we're covering the medical cannabis thing at this time and it's a no brainer and why not let it get you get recognized for that i'm an american i mean your background if you're rich you're dead on with it well and i don't know how i ended up getting into this situation but if i look at my career my father was in the food business i ended up in the food business for seven years on the east or west coast as a regional sales manager for major manufacturers i did up to big time pharmaceutical companies i didn't believe it was ok to bribe doctors to write a particular drug over another drug so i got out of the industry you could see i was blacklisted just like i'm being blast blacklisted right now in the education industry at least in the seattle area and the bottom line is i have electronic evidence discovery experience bottom line is the last law and i'm not going to dance around the law whatever the da wants that's what i'm going to do it we were forced highly regulating the pharmaceutical business the d a could roll up on you any time and expect your trunk and you could inspect your sample locker there no mystery to it you've got to comply you've got to be fully compliant so that people like don can stay in business and she's trying to do the right thing by people she really cares a lot for people i mean it's pretty amazing that she carried on cancer and i think that she wants to cure someone else's cancer without poisoning them pretty powerful stuff so i'd be honored to represent someone like her on what i what i would like to look at is that what we're trying to do is construct a architecture here for the state we've just had doug heye in our program one of the most noted people in this so called understanding of cannabis what it's really about like the mill one five o two which is really a scam it's an  law initiative basically we're not covering anything medical anything is far is where we're going to go with with looking at the future keith it's a no brainer could be that the the the the chances that one thing will lead to something better i'm hoping i mean i'm thinking that from that standpoint specially with your career so that's why i'm saying it on the air you're the most suited for this job and here's don we've got dawn derrington here and don is the matriarch of organic growing donna my right i seattle who have access points and are selling poison to very sick people that really upsets me a lot i want proper regulation in this field that i wanted to also address what you were talking about  in terms of the school district and the politics and the vast amount of money that's being wasted i have i have had a cleaning business for eighteen years and i have just been in shock with my when my employees would have to take a day off because there was no school it was oh a teacher preparation day or who knows what kind of day or constantly letting the kids out early i had maybe i am old when i went to school it was from eight to three monday through friday no exceptions except for thanksgiving christmas holidays easter holidays that was it you went to school the teachers were there they're there they're in the entire time when i was in fifth grade my fifth grade teacher was the superintendent of the district manage just fine i got an excellent education we had classes that never had more than twenty two people in them when we had a when i was in eighth grade we had an excess number of people past that twenty to mine and they formed a fifth class in that area mixed scene some of us who were in eighth grade and some who were in seventh grade you know the more scholastic people because they feel we can deal with that kind of confusion thing going and it still works beautifully the magic here is twenty two maximum kids to a class you have more than that it is crowd control when are they supposed to be teaching anybody anything how do they teach people when they're not going to school i don't quite understand that  either my mother was a teacher when i was a child and she would she taught from eight to three and did her classroom preparation from three to five which is why the last room day ins at three primarily so the teachers have time to prepare why do they need a special day off every month why do they need half a day every other week i don't get it the money is all going to the top the the school districts are so bloated with administrators that i'm not quite sure what they all do know i do acknowledge that there are more weight you lation is from the federal side in the state side than there were fifty years ago however that doesn't excuse all this incredibly talk heavy costs that keith was talking about that money needs to be in the classrooms it needs to be pain teachers adequately what is the starting pay of a teacher in the in the state of worship and you know it's no hundred forty thousand i'll tell you that on the other day and thirty it's maybe somewhere between twenty and thirty thousand you can't live on that number one so we have a group of mostly a group of people who are incredibly dedicated or they would never get into this why do we penalize them so much so that they have to work extra jobs even back when i was a kid my mother worked every summer one summer she sorted peas at burnside it's just about went out of her mind it was so reputations and boring and horrible and hard on her body and everything else but that's what she had to do because she was supporting two children myself and my brother we have to up teacher so lower administrative cell research there was a time when my mother was on the negotiating committee with her school district this was in another state but i remember being so frustrated by the demands made from the superintendent side but at that time there was a cap throughout the state of what the administration could make in comparison to teachers salaries that seems to have been erased and disappeared and that's why here they have these hideous salaries for people who do practically nothing except annoy people fire people the politics in the middle if you didn't have all these people running around with nothing to do they wouldn't have time to be going after people in the way and i've been a beer crowd i was a bureaucrat for many years so i understand how it works and it is document everything because believe me they do they're getting paid a hundred seventy five thousand dollars to document every time you sneeze you're not but for your own protection you must document everything if you are a teacher clerical grounds janitor doesn't matter you really need to document every encounter i used to carry a little book around looms in the notebooks in my back pocket so i could just whip it out and write things down at the time it was the this is the only way you can defend yourself and protect yourself and it's very unfortunate that keith has had to learn this the hard way that you have to write down every time they so much as say hello to you and that's the truth what would you instruct somebody to do a over half of the people that have medical marijuana recommendations in this state have a compromised immune systems the last thing we need in our body is poison and yet that's most of what's going on out here  the best of my knowledge there are only two access points in the state that are one hundred percent owned and it can sometimes i wonder about the other one i mean i know there are edibles are not organic and that really upsets me because that's just as important as the raw but the extracts there are many out there that you don't want to put in your body i don't care what they call it i have seen many examples of people claiming to have simpson oil which is a particular kind of concentrate that is what i have used for c cancer and what i hope other cancer patients with in crones patients that have to see patients with we don't we can't take poison because will die so and that they're being sold something as if it's medicine and i have real problems about this so we need absolute regulations in this state and particularly in this county and city that i live in that regular if if you're going to sell it as medicine as a medical product it must be as organic as humanly possible to get that means no pesticides that means no general hydro phonics that stuff has poison in it and yet they don't tell patients this and most patients don't know that so that's the first thing we need an absolute regulation that it has to be everything has to be organic the extracts the blood the edibles the everything that you have it needs to be organic then we need to set up some really logical patient friendly regulations that can assist and protect the safety of patients what we're all about we talk about safe that exists but is it safe access if you go into some place and they sell you poison is it safe access if somebody staking something to a patient in a hospital this poison a safe access if you have to meet somebody on a corner because your local access point was closed down or the only one that has organics that you can get to is closed down and you have to have delivery on a corner this is not safe access it is not safe for the the patients and it's not safe for the caretakers who are making the deliveries so we need some regulations in that i think keith would be just marvelous with helping to drought because of his vast experience of his six variance with pharmaceuticals working with doctors he knows how to work with doctors he knows how to deal with public he understands the whole concept is he said he couldn't stay in that business because of the the the the bribery that was going on and the foreseen pushing unsafe things on to people so his values are absolutely in the right place and his values are the ones that we need to have in this industry so that it is absolutely safe for patients well i was going to think is if we you have to map it out you have to scout it out you have to understand it in the people who do so are really kind of the people who created in and from that mistake of doing you are one of the key pioneers in this in so pete i think you just by participating at this very moment it could be that all the karma that's happening could switch it around where you will actually kind of be above all those other characters probably soon as far as you know you know have them come to you for a job you know i mean am i wrong y give us some input on your background so we get that why we've got a background in food programs and what not actually have a human resources degree and i work at i b m in new york and my boss pull the aside and she said it's mostly women in the field you're not going to enjoy it  it's mostly sitting behind a desk and looking at a lot of paperwork so she told me to go into sales like a lot of sons they do with their father does my father was in food so that's what i ended up doing i worked for general food selling coffee all over southern california really covered every county in southern california is a great experience met a lot of great people work with about one hundred sales people that i see right off in downtown los angeles always kind of had a dream of going back to boston i went back when the market crashed in orange county so the bottom line is you know hung in there and my boss said once can work for this family owned sheep to come i spent about four thousand miles a month on the road really ethical company really good people and sold seafood all over new england upstate new york in new jersey and then i ended up in the pharmaceutical industry and that's right but like i said you know having been on the outside looking in i never thought i could do it my parents like what it was you have to do some more than a food business and i just thought i could and to walk into a training class with fifty six people from merkin to be their class president is a really big deal and both my first two bosses were class president using become a manager in the company well i was siphoned away by another company where they offered me a management opportunity it was a scam they were just trying to find out everything i knew and i wouldn't tell them and the bottom line is i was going to go abroad doctors i had already seen what my mentor tried to tell me this is how we do it here at this company and i'm not going to talk about who they are doesn't really matter a lot of people are scumbags and they do the wrong thing  i'm not interested in any of that moved out here west than love it out here love the pacific northwest don't appreciate the pacific the passive aggressive behavior that i faced in the school district it's actually considered level five which is the most serious people do not talk to you like don said i could go months without my boss even saying hello to me or knowledge of me in front of other people so i don't even bother documenting it because it is happening all the time and that's a personal vendetta and that's that's uncalled for and it's totally unprofessional i never see anything like that in my forty five years in my life bottom line i worked in the legal services at a great company kirkland electronic evidence discovery fantastic people and the guy that started that company started it with his wife john jeff and he's never lost a case in court  he really wrote the book on how to handle electronic evidence discovery and i would say that that's a very high highly regulated field with a total chain of custody from the moment that evidence leaves the location  know that is right here that's information they can contact especially if we get something going if it's in donations to help you right now for your legal fund and then dawn as we mentioned in the past we just had this choice wellness moved to a new all by the way we're going to bring up our real fast chris give us some input you're gorm a chef are going to be starting a show on that right yeah so what gives an idea was on my d l as you know that you know for years people have been coming and asking me to make you know brownies cakes cookies that's kind of boring and there's so much other things you can make like you could make pasta you know out of ham you couldn't you know good cook and i show people how to you know different ideas i agree with you and what i'm trying to think of just this is the information right here on organics which will be organic cooking right yeah yeah this i and good evening and welcome to insight as roundtable i'm heidi o'malley for nearly thirteen years now medical marijuana has been legal in washington state but it's never been easy for the patients to get the drug and a legislative effort this year to clear things up seems to have made things just a bit more confusing we are joined weight with three panelists tonight to help us kind of sort through the situation in the discuss what we find ourselves in with but yakima county sheriff ken irwin thank you for  eight washington voters decided it should be legal for patients who are either terminally ill or have debilitating conditions needing pain relief to seek that relief with with marijuana if it's approved by a doctor at the time the state regulation was they could they could grow and have and or have a sixty day supply sixty day supply never really being completely defined so this this effort in the legislative session this year was to provide a legal framework is that correct and yes i pushed to do this because i was sick and tired of the you know and she brought forth a really good  and i liked the patient registry a lot of people didn't but i thought it would take a lot off