welcomed support for with howard storm this is the last part of the series where we're going to be discussing howard's near death experience and different insights from it welcome back thanks again howard for coming on the show thanks for inviting me  glad to have you so can you catch the viewers up in case they missed the first three parts on your near death experience from the one nine hundred eighty s well i am one of millions of americans and millions more throughout the whole world who have had a near death experience which was a term coined by dr raymond bodhi when he published the book life after life and he was the one that popularized the i do your research why he chose the term near death experience with a sense the people that come back from these experiences are alive he didn't want to get into the argument how could they have actually been dead if now they're sitting here talking about it if you talk to the people that had the near death experience and also talk oftentimes to the people that were around them the medical people that they were infected die and they were really deep in the dying process so that's why i experienced one should first ninety five i experienced what i believe was dying and then because i was an atheist i was taken into a hellish experience which was very horrible and real and that out of desperation i pray came there and took me out of that place and we had a life review and he and answered all my questions and then he sent me back to redo my life because what i didn't know was that god wants us to care for each other and i was only caring for myself which is a huge mistake so now you're living completely differently and you said you didn't want to come back to this world because of all the pain and suffering as well and then when you came back shortly after you broke up or split up with your than wife who didn't excepts your can understand your experience can relate to it's right and because you're a completely different person you know and now here we are so can you talk more to near death experiences just the phenomena like before nine hundred seventy five i mean raymond moody had his experience and he kind of brought that to be known in the world but what about prior to that where there were near death experiences yes there were many of the matter of fact a professor at smith college dr carroll solecki has written about near death experiences and medieval culture and they used to be a near death experience one of my favorite is the near death experience of st paul and his letter to the corinthians he talks about his own near death experience when he was stoned to death in athens sixteen years earlier when he wrote it and so they've been around but because of that book and then subsequent to that book there have been hundreds and even thousands of books written about near death experience and there's a lot of people who have not had near the experience that are doing research on them and the interesting thing is that they find similarities and some dissimilarities to at all so i would suggest that near death experience are all a little bit any of sync craddock to that person and they don't all have to be the same them in fact they aren't all the same and as people have studied near death experiences in other cultures like for example in india  other places that people have research remarkable similarities to the experiences of americans in western europeans they seem to be have stronger similarities and dissimilarities batiste change you know when you came back you said you made a complete change media based on the pain so those are some of the similarities now why do you think we're having so many near death experiences i mean they're popping up like crazy now you go to the bookstore and you know there's a new book almost every week have a different person from a different part of the world you know that had a near death experience why is god doing this i really believe that we are living at a real crossroads in human history and jesus told me that  and to put it simply i think that there's a great awakening going on and it's not just near death experiences that's that's one factor in trying to wake up people in this materialistic culture to the fact that this phenomenon needs to be addressed and dealt with and taken seriously but there is throughout the whole world and in the united states  a great awakening of all kinds of what might be categorized as mystical experiences by mystical experiences and not that's like talking about just a tibetan hermit you know living in a cave in the himalayas because i believe that everybody is having experiences and when you talk to people and when they come to trust you they begin tree light their experiences for example at the first church i served as full time pastor a woman came up to me and told me about her mystical experience that happened during church and i said who asked you to tell and she said well i never told anyone but you because i thought they would make fun of me but  since i know that you've had this experience i figured you would make fun of me so that there's a huge trust level because i'm i got i went to a period of silence for because i got so frustrated with people really killing me for talking about this stuff i mean public or friends family everybody all you have family friends and every sunday and believe in your story no nobody did because see that's the thing god god chooses you you didn't choose to have this experience so god chooses certain people to come and spread by guess spread whatever message he wants him to spread i don't know what you know what you wrote about what you spoke about you know and he like you said your experience was unique to you and their experiences are unique to them you know for their part of the world and you're here to tell what this what the society that you're a part of really needs one major way god is trying to reach people what what other way is he trying to reach people there's some an interesting revolution going on in the world of the church you know in the developed world meaning primarily western europe in the united states churches are dying left and right and church attendance is declining but there's contra movements taking place that this new kind of churches i'm happening all over the country that churches where the worship is more engaging in more lively and using more contemporary music and those a lot of those churches are mega churches and they have a huge emphasis on group small groups and you know when you become part of the church it's not just that seeker friendly service that they have it also is they encourage you to become engaged to the church through you know mission activity or bible but yeah so the church is becoming redefined in new ways just like everything in our society like the publishing industry is changing and every every industry in our society is reinventing itself in order to adapt to this new world and god wants a new world to match and in the other series just on compassion he wants a world that's filled with compassion and where we love our neighbor live together in a community so i do think this the foundation that's being set to attain that goal yes and the gods of wealth and material success i think for a lot of people particularly the young people are losing their luster and i don't think it's such a powerful call to become rich and powerful anymore that used to be everybody wanted their great show alger story used to be the rich and powerful be the top dog you know that's that was the american dream well i don't i don't think a lot of people are buying into that anymore what are they buying  well perhaps it's the church's failure perhaps it's christianity's failure and i certainly would say that it has failed in many ways to be the the source of meaningful life experience and the millennial to running none in there because they have not found what they're looking for in the church so shame on the church and i'm a pastor and i'm some of them doubting myself too i mean it's not you know but there are places that are reaching them and thank god for them and there's a home church movement where they don't have buildings they don't have they don't have paid staff people are just meeting in small groups in homes and experiencing church that way  back to heaven when when you were in heaven what was the most impactful thing that you took away and i'm sure everything was only had an impact on you but what was the main thing that stands out of that has really changed your life well that's actually pretty easy for me to answer how much jesus loves me and you and everybody but i i didn't know how important i was to jesus he you know he made us i mean i hope you like your nose because jesus did that i hope you like your eyes because jesus did that i hope you like the way your mind works because jesus did that and he made everybody unique and everybody special everybody's beautiful everybody it's wonderful to jesus and  he thinks we're just about the most trafficked thing in the whole creation each and every one of us and he wants us to blossom in this world he wants us to produce all the good fruits of god he wants each one of us to just overflow with love and peace and joy and faith and self control and compassion and when we don't do that it makes him s because we haven't experienced life so what does he i mean what did he tell you about when you when you're coming back to earth did he tell you to live in a certain way or was i just understood he told me to love the person i was with and he told me that i could access his love whenever i needed it which i do recall only he told me i didn't have to do anything grand for him just simply love the person that i was with and to put my trust and faith in him and to come to rely upon him and during your life of you you got a solid understanding of all the events in your life and the meaning of the purpose of different things that may have been troubling you like relationships with people so he explained everything to you yes and unfortunately all the stuff that i thought was a realises fault was really very much a part of my on mr direction you know in in those relationships so we have a lot more power or we should take a lot more control than we think you know because one of the things she says told me said that if you look for evil in anger and hatred you'll find those things and i will be your reality if you look for love and beauty and goodness you'll find those things and that will be your reality so i am not saying we create our own reality but i'm saying we we color and influence our own reality you know and i imagine them other worlds that he's talking about those other worlds in this universe yeah he he not only talked about it he showed me other worlds and told me that god being the creative genius that he is just created a lot of like throughout the universe and this is not the only planet with intelligent life and in fact this is one of the lowest forms of intelligent life in this world and this other planets where it is a garden of eden and it's a world of peace and love and goodness and i'm it he wants this world to develop into a whole new world and that's not so far away hopefully when you say not so far away are we talking decades or centuries because how live now well he showed me that in two hundred years from one thousand and five that is it is going to be a new earth and i think that's going to begin within the next twenty or thirty years we were so when the millennial generation is you know in the deaths of tens of millions of their own people not counting the tense of millions that they are responsible for in their wars with other people might say tome allowed thirty five million of his people die of starvation during the cultural revolution and when he was told by his advisors and ministers that they were dying by the millions on the countryside because of his attempts to create career whopper family  did you learn about the you know the end the devil attacking us well i asked jesus why why is there evil in the world and he spoke to me because i was an artist he says he spoke to my understanding and he said could you paint with one color and i said well not very well i said it's the contrast that makes the art that's the tool of a visual artist contrast and he said that's why evil exists to contrast as we have no freedom of choice without the ability to choose between right and wrong good and ones that i feel very strongly about is a sense of aesthetic a sense of beauty you know i'm a dog lover i've had pets all my life and they have no ascetic sense they know what they see what they smell what they taste they just you know they don't discern and you know when you think about music for example you can take music from the other side of the world bring it into a culture and it can be easily appreciated  i don't see where in the animal kingdom this any appreciation of those things maybe on some subliminal level but it's very interesting how music for example  transcends culture and as art does too because i love art from other projects of the world you know from africa and from south pacific cetera not just western on i mean one of the biggest influence on west has been art from other countries like africa right so that's what god's kind of striving for in the in the emotional mental sense to have compassion and like a one one world united world this like how we appreciate food and art what have a one world government domination is the great evil this is a world without anybody dominating anyone everyone's free to live in their communities as they choose so that's another impediment you know the domination of one government larger than the other you have because the did did the desire to dominate and control of the people is like one of the main manifestations of evil and i tossed a famous character infamous characters that i just mentioned hitler the enemy spoke to you or attempted your attacks i wouldn't say top but did he influence are you thinking ever now that you look back maybe to realize that the time like to make certain decisions or do certain things or act in certain absolute because case ok so it's a it's a distraction from what you really are true life purposes yeah so how do people know what their true life purpose as you mentioned when when you came back from heaven god told you to love the one you're with right so your purpose is to l that spreads love and eventually when the whole world over one person at a time so how do people know what their life purposes like what what's my is my life purpose to live people as well absolutely and begin begins with our for our exam lee and then our extended family and then our schoolmates or workmates and extends out but do you lot love the people that try and contact with and what it really means is that person that you're with at that moment be do your best to care about them to be nonjudgmental about them and to appreciate them having a static appreciation for them as a person i mean or if i may see them the way jesus jesus and i know she likes me is total accept as well what would you say of someone scared of dying or how can you speak to the afterlife one of the interesting things about studies of near death experience is that they've tested people to see if they have a fear of death which is the number one fear of all the people universally throughout the world the number one fear is fear of death and people that have had a near death experience on these tasks flung the task they have no fear of death i have no fear of death because i know that death is a transition from this state of existence into another state of existence and the fear of death comes for two reasons one is people are afraid to let go because this is what we know this is what we experience and i want to let go of it you know i don't want to let go of questions and you know air conditioning and heating and you know for generators and you know automobiles i don't want to go over that stuff i'm very attached to those things but we do when we move on let go of that stuff become detached from seams because we find a new attachments which is greater love greater peace creators and of course god most of all so that's of the spear yeah and the other reason why people are afraid of death is because they're not sure if there is a life after death so i would submit to those people since says millions of people in this world and they're writing books like crazy and they're being style like crazy talking about their experience of what it's like to move beyond this world three times and it really does exist and so in a lot of other people you know very few people in this world will go to finland as it's not a hot spot for tourism but trust me it is in the fence a really great people and they really do speak finnish yeah it's a great place but you know so that's anecdotal evidence right right you can experience god too you can experience god's love and peace and god's promises of life after your graphical locations so you grab all right so it's really just like step from this dimension into the other dimension and there you are so it's like thinking about it from a different perspective and it's also time in those places is not linear like right off clock time like we do here right now a completely different time as we know it doesn't exist because it a grander kind of time which is all time and you can't tell how long you were there when you had your experience on this it was a long time anything else you want to tell viewers before we wrap up i think the most important thing i have to say is it's very difficult for us to comprehend how much god loves us but if you want to know ways well that's really good advice thank you so much for this four part series our death lamb blessed by all the wisdom acquired thank you hopefully viewers are enjoy the says well follow up my book it's on the fruits of the spirit where which is heavily influenced by howard teachings as well and we will see you next week thank you again