secret cia flights including some for william king harvey tracy barnes and william rip robertson and flew arms directly to fidel castro when the us was backing him in cuba prior to the overthrow he was never an official cia employee after castro the us turned against him taht flew arms to castro's opponents and sixty two he worked on operation mongoose as both a pilot undercover cia covert action group operative he later worked as an undercover pilot how he still alive he's part of the white hat government and we could call him the pentagon affiliated cia group and from my deep research and being a conduit through the years the point is is that the reason i am alive the reason tos alive and others is that there is a light side to all this the problem is the dark side taking over and i'm not putting words in his mouth he said that before and i found that to be true that he first ones to respond to john mccain that attacked him and the short segment and we'll played the video next segment then we'll get into the latest on iran contra the latest on gary webb in the new film kill a messenger kill the messenger and the latest on benghazi that's really the big issue and his sources in nato and in the military the pentagon i want really happened there this now been proven to be correct a year after he said all this on the show it's now come out about the stinger missiles you name it so tosh i've got a three minute introduction you've got three minutes to break what do you want to get into first  well i don't know where to start or guess where start with mckone let me make one statement and the doctor in my case cases when you fly into many many different countries and you're there for a short time so like at the start to build up your sensitized to believe that you're not going to come down with anything you're sometimes you're vaccinated sometimes you're not when you have hands on and some of us that site where you think they were bullet proof we found out we're not regardless of what's out there by the way we're going to break it to the floor and we come back but talk about bullet proof you have been doing cover operations since the fifty's and are still lines it's not easy to know these things and then keep them suppressed been recently threatened i don't know how much he wants to say on air i hope he says it all because i don't even like knowing what he told me and then not being able to say it but william robert plumlee is our guest he wants to deal with john mccain first we'll play the clip when he calls for it sandwich him with colonel shaffer confirming what plumlee is and sandwiched in with another g well getting into what really happened with benghazi but plumlee talk directly to a nato officer and others written leave it at that and it's all been confirmed what he's been saying the last few years now and so he's continue to go on interviews not want i do not do interviews mainstream media just my personal feelings i do not trust i'm going to demonstrate it to me in the past that they're more interested in my opinion more interested in entertainment and some of the editors have been infiltrated early that day to add on that so our come on all media i have more respect for all media even though you have to be highly bedded in order to put stuff out on not so much may now but young people younger than i am they call upon them to carry out special ops and those opposite been infiltrated by political influence over the years i saw that coming many many years ago that and so i started trying to put information out there before the fact not prove anything but just a minute to protect myself because i saw what was happening to other people or character assassination in some cases outright assassination when i didn't go along with the status quo and the infiltration that was starting in those early years back in the fifty's through the sixty's where the military industrial complex were the cia operations clogs or whatever you want to call them  operations but those operations instead of becoming military intelligence operations and gathering intel and there was for there were a far well for protection of this country's national security to become migrated into special ops for political  forrest gump's talking again about things he knew absolutely nothing about well that all year later it was confirmed another thing that was confirmed around that time was they were training bases that was inside and was also safe houses and turkey and jordan were u s weapons and also russian weapons were being stored in a safe house and there were also i had training sites at various places located in syria jordan and turkey now where did that  information come from that information didn't come from our intelligence it came from nato intelligence and other sources including the french in these areas and being that they were heavily engaged in this and there was also a war  day and said you won't believe what's going on over here we're moving weapons they're coming in all say one thirty s we're building up a secret army over here and out first thought wow man there's this you know it's got to be vetted i mean our you know thing and all that kind of stuff and then fox news asked me to go on and i did go on camera with them and talk about that had nothing to do with bengazi but even in that interview i mentioned they're going to aussie i mentioned stinger missiles and our god even saw the amount four hundred missing now there were three quarter in the news clip he said fifteen thousand a reference thing or missiles it was fifteen thousand hard impact weapons that was transferred over there within those fifteen thousand weapons hard fifteen thousand on those shipments that were there year and a half before all this started breaking was the stinger missiles and then we found out that the from the second source work with nato out of the pentagon that they had been a series intelligence operatives with the cia and all of the other organizations that it gathered as information over a long period of time in their responsibilities the passes information up through proper channels which they did however  their formation that the intelligence community about the u s intelligence community and join with the nato forces they didn't want to hear that because it was contrary to the administration and then the president at that point had made a statement that these little  it i wasn't going to push on nelson to mccain made a statement saul now mccain made his statement and you complain any time you want to he knew the people that those weapons were going to and they were good people that statement was made at the same time tanks were pushing in on baghdad and the same time there was people over were cut no people's heads in line and up to soldiers that happened to get captured and shoot and mass graves ok no comment ago hours after briefing congress she was fully aware of everything that's going on right now let's go ahead and go to this clip first off there's a realization now like you can probably figure all of our options for syria are bad i mean  are not going to get into the hands of isis because if we had people who could over there to funnel it to the right people and i know these people and i know who they are and i know how to do it and show to other people it's this administration i don't want to do it that is sending them to certain and and the sun comes up and the west shirt on on black now oh yes absolutely you mentioned mccain and one of they got on this guy i mean obviously he's black now it's three ways from sunday they know he was saying i'm like a canary and that's what mccain had to say to that please continue with your statements on it and on that and then let's move into the latest on benghazi the latest on gary webb cia drug trafficking  so after that statement i was going to number one up i've never had anything against mccain on the conspiracy or wherever he did it if it did that's all i get in fact at one time not a lot of respect for him but i saw after he got it and colleagues that he worked with special interest took over whatever happened i lost a lot of respect for in that state but aren't there knowing that there's no information had already been vetted and was before the fact as much as are your there and a half those missiles and their hardware was being pilfered or given to the radical factions are going to eventually become i so now they built an army within two years with our weapons and some of the russian weapons they  didn't overrun all these bases i have one question about overrunning a base anybody's ever served in a hot spot and the country knows that the first thing you do when you're overrun you get rid of all the paperwork and you damn well get rid of all the weapons if you've got to blow them up so that wasn't done it wasn't done as later moved out and also the other power of those weapons over there that was being sent to the middle east they were not monitored hours according to the direct commercial sales in the foreign energy report to make it legal to in order to ship those weapons are supposed to be monitored at all times to make sure that they do not get into the ice i had a chance right there is up and there is a failure right there point one and weakest link in the chain that's the failure we did not monitor those weapons now where there was a conspiracy to arm this these were people i don't know i don't don't get into conspiracies i'm trying to stay strictly on the fact was that the information came from nato through intelligence community passed up through proper channels that these weapons were getting in radical hands and basketry state and found out about this he had a contact it could buy back quote some of the stinger missile he sent dispatches to washington d c and i don't care what they say there are many dispatches he and others and even some nato people and some people that was working with the french also confirm those reports to washington d c to the u s state department and they sat on it and actually told the operatives  for about twenty seconds right when you got him to the confirmation that this was happening and they sat on it your audio cut out please repeat ok this time from asian from the intelligence community and the undercover operatives that work with nato and other sources inside the middle east that it put their lives on the line together that intelligence passed it through proper channels to washington d c curren getting administration and also to some of the senators and i was not supposed to be monitoring what's going on that information was on more than one from multiple sources written and sent to the state department complaining about what said that he had an opportunity to sources to buy back to stinger missiles are some of the stinger missiles so i'm ministration came out and said the intelligence community is information was totally wrong you've had some people from the pentagon this affirmation came from the pentagon this information was leaked by retirees that had worked the operation as much as four years ago they were concerned about the weapons being lost and getting in the wrong hands they are the very people that said to somebody who was training people in jordan and in turkey that's why the turks don't want to play with us too much because it's going to expose that those documents those on those letters those asking what do we do they information only a minimal those who are sent to quote this administration say there this is incredible and you're listening to one of the main iran contra what is is like is a gentleman stay there i know you were talking about you just did your job you've checked all the sources you've been doing flights you as we speak you're talking to people it all comes out to be accurate mccain makes fun of you attach you obviously the intelligence community knows of al qaida get stingers are going to shoot down airplanes that's going to be a big issue they want to stop it not just to get to be good guys but so they don't get the blame and then why would the government why would obama why would the state department think that this would blow back on him and they could just have stevens killed and covered it up because they're incompetent and i have no idea what they're messing with now have no idea how to run this war and they put people in strategic positions are not qualified and therefore we have what they called intelligence failures what i'm saying it's not an intelligence failure it's a political failure at the highest levels we have no leadership we have no direction we have absolutely no plan now you mention about about pentagon some of my sources are friends of some of those children are some of the people that off flew with way back when so i do have a little bit of a lane if you have a contact but it's very important for me to make sure that i get my dots in the right places because character assassination is out there in a wings is waiting for me to screw up so now back to go ok if you remember around the time when we had some of the people from the pentagon and the intelligence time we had a couple of generals there were getting ready to talk about this out of channels ministration jumped him i think those guys were asked for early retirement couple of people up there colonels and some birds and different ones are we're talking about this and was warned to shut shut up it could affect their careers some of them have actually retired and come out and now to talk about what we're what we're talking about here we have the pentagon doubtless just gathering getting up and down and blocked and then the main thing was the letters to stevenson road to the state department basically asking what to do this is what we found program and one of those questions specifically stated will some day we'd be fighting our u s weapons on some foreign battle feel simple yes or no to anyone senate on both sides of documents had to be sanitized those documents had to be withheld because it would show an illegal operation of a gun running situation i know weapons were not being monitored and not allowed to get and to the wrong hands now if this was purpose or not i have no way of knowing the fact remains that u s weapons and i'm talking about tanks humvees launchers missiles over six billion dollars and weapons  i know about that i've been told from sources out of the pentagon that reason that i was contacted by nato is they don't know what to do mainstream media does not touch it because they've been infiltrated so the old what i call the will mockingbird project and i know alex you know what i'm talking about were infiltrated by the cia operatives and the journalist and on the door and the worst of the political class that just absolutely are totally incompetent they'll just lie i that's who they stick so it's not an intelligence community failure it is a political fire that's what the holiday call groups are in control and that's why they can just a lot of people on so many fronts now is because we literally have political media finishing up on benghazi and you want to get in to kill the messenger gary webb you were one of his main sources your congress a source everything you talk about on that's been vetted and confirmed as a testament to you doing the right thing and then continuing to do contractor work because there are a lot of good people in the system as you pointed out most of the good intel i get fighting the tyranny is from the army and i'm not lionize in the army but it was fletcher prouty at the army that exposed the j f k thing i know you are very intimately involved in those operations by a pigs you name it not just on the aircraft but on the ground a lot of that's highly classified you say going to break your silence in dallas on the anniversary coming up but i think for your safety let's just spill as much got serious possible including what you told me about mexico and i just we just as i don't like knowing that the crew don't like known it can we please just get as much as you told us out there so they don't kill us all well ok so border that led into the fast and errors which they try to blame on mom and bob drugstore gun sales and the illegal stuff then later these weapons began to show up that could not be strays back to mom and pop gun stores but they came back to the direct commercial sales program which they desert ministrations supposed to been monitoring to make sure that those weapons did not get into the wrong hands however those particular weapons ended up and that is that those hands and other gangs that later came into cartels and then as a result of all that during that period of time over eighty thousand people were killed inside mexico mainstream media did not covering it that our neighbor next door and their drug investigate even when the weapons showed up in court and laid out all over the plows are going to have been firefights in that region this ministration and the other administration refused to acknowledge that there was any problems going on with those getting us made weapons ok so there first the mexico deal then let's go over to the other side of the country at that point in time later weapons began to show up in jordan and turkey same them all same operation out of the direct commercial sales program i started trying to vet this stuff to make sure that i wasn't making any mistakes about the dollar amount follow the money where is it going cut out companies that go back in a campaign contributions i don't know i started working on that and then a wrath of god came down on me through anonymous deals through character assassination you better shut up you know you're getting way off base here there's nothing to this you're a conspiracy theory why do you want to take pot shots at obama he's a good man i don't know what they're planning up there but i do know that they incompetency is causing almost a damn conspiracy it's making me wonder are they really involved in this creating diversions that takes us away from what's really going on right now start talking like a conspira ok i went in on a program like it was your zaha going and hagman and that at that point in time intelligence report that there was an infiltration coming across in the flux of the children and all that kind of stuff that there was they picked up i think was nine somalis according to the border patrol putting our guns on those of us hands but he's not direct you know what ok so anyway they asked me one time this was cool down to ten would i come down there and so they could show me something so i went down and saw warehouse notes all the warehouse packed full of stock and i even tried to take pictures of it and put tracking devices on the vehicles which was all recorded by norco news and salem news mainstream media contacted me and said i was crazy that there was nothing to it and that's why they could not use it and they got that information from the us administration so that someone tells me most probably be very careful because the ministrations out to get you they're going to that committee or this information come from if that person would do likewise now i get blocked out the name there but everybody knows who i'm talking about i don't like to throw names out there but  so far i haven't heard anything from the pain up i did hear some other things but i'm upset and something but because i'm going into methods and procedures and here's the problem their problem i'm not going to government agent i'm not employed i don't take the u government treasuries money is the information is coming to me is there are people who are dead are dedicated to saving this constitution and they're seeing it gradually through a process of evolution being eroded and it's being eroded by incompetent people us about about not just radical islamists coming across the border but a training base in mexico and indeed you did dats the reason i came down here when we bring it up to date information i got i'm still down here checking out out  know what else is very porous down there i'm trying to get in touch with the border patrol right now to find out if they've had a report so that i do have a border patrol contact outside of teresa and he told me there's true still that however i can't go out public at this ranch here back in two thousand and ten and it's recorded and pictures of shaken hands with the border patrol as the mexican american also was raiding the ranch and they found weapons there u s weapons now that was blocked out up for just selling a few shotguns and stuff when he got divorced to raise money and put him in prison for a while he said on my show in two thousand and three in studio there's a video of it on you to that they were going to arm secret armies  sally was right on in fact some of us boys help support him while he was in prison because he got a raw deal we're trying now to get his pension back from him because it is the information is proved to be one hundred percent now going to go real fast and as point west and oliver north notebook so certainly has a long history and nashiri what you just said is absolutely right they jumped on that man and they discredit it is deal and robbed his pension and ruining now he had also passed  whatever to get into all that kind of stuff at one point webb had that but webb could not connect the dots webb was a damn good reporter he could not connect the dots the worst of all i had direct contact that these drugs were coming in and been pilfered out of el toro to the black community and l a basically ricky ross i went to talk to maxine waters and ricky ross of tourney and i told him this the same night that sally who was also recently committed suicide a challenge to cia director do you shit that particular point in time at the high school i went on six o'clock news that night and said i didn't want to see a race riot started over this information articles on me about my knowledge about el toro influence the one thirty central tor to be off loaded with drugs and then reloaded to china lakes without weapons and going down to the contract that was also confirm or gary webb and his security advisor bill old that's all da that information was confirmed but yet they went after him on a weapons that he sold and in law enforcement we exchange they exchange weapons all the time that we sell shit will buy this one hell no i got before colonel chabot was killed and that map was recorded and that article that article through san diego reader has now been made into a book not ma book i don't have none to do with it also gary webb knew about all that because documentation is proving very for mirka mockingbird and all these kind things or psychological warfare or subliminal nation that can pressure pressure until they can stop lemonade and subliminal and make you do things to yourself that you normally wouldn't do now that's my position as i may have grabbed him and programmed even that had him do it because i think it was programmer year before he did the act because he was gradually getting on the things that was best left on heard of reports same way  released to the committee which turned right around and classified a committee secret sensitive top secret and it's still classified today so here we are the people that was involved in these ops having to fire our own government to get our stories vetted and public in order to stop this money flow just going into campaign contributions through the sale of illegal arms international and that's still going on today and mobbed and yet that's what i'm working on that's why i have to come out here and let you people know this is what i'm working on before the fact otherwise i'm going to go to a federal prison and be shut up are i'm going to have an accident like hastings and some of these other people now ok that know y neighborhood i even talked about i even talked to his friends and family and he was running from the fans when they when they killed him well there you are i mean we're heard me say this and i'll set it on your program there is another world out there that the eight to five american cannot even comprehend it exists and some of us guys play in that world i call it the sandbox and some of us don't play too smart and that's what they watch now or ok back to the web do so we l i'm not sure of the gate but couple of months weeks maybe to whatever what should i do then you gotta go public i can't go public because i don't have the goods the dots are connecting ok what kind of what dang good thing listen if you want to get this out now we can give you a thirty minute break and have the nightly news interview you just on gary webb the nightly news get it all knocked out of the park right now well here's the thing here's the thing ok i got no the run professor francis anthony boyle is a leading american expert in international law he was responsible for drafting the biological weapons antiterrorism act of eighty nine the american in implementing legislation for the seventy two biological weapons convention he served on the board of doctors of amnesty international and represented a bosnia herzegovina at the world court he serves a legal advisor to president delegation of the middle east peace negotiations and ninety one ninety three he delivered  bertrand russell peace lectures professor boyle teaches international law to university of illinois champaign is the author and i'm not going to go over all of his books that he's written dozens of them  d in political science both in harvard university and his most recent book destroying libya and world order the three decades u s campaign to terminate the gadhafi revolution available amazon dot com we appreciate him being so available the last few days thank you for coming on what is your take on what's happening with sir well thank you for are have me on alex and just one point of clarification that biological weapons anti terrorism act that i did draft is on the federal criminal code it was passed unanimously by legislation by both houses of  congress and signed into law by president george bush sr a conservative republican so it's not as if i'm doing something here at the best of liberal democrats i think it's  level we have one in guinea one in liberia and one in sierra leone and days labs to every type of hideous biological warfare work you could possibly imagine including a genetic engineering on just about every type of agent you can possibly imagine so it's my opinion that this is this is where it came weapon involved here is the national institutes of health they've always been up to their nose by oh actually they got their eyeballs and biological warfare and the center for disease control  telling us to even look at this it's hiding in plain view that that we know we have these secret bio weapons labs in africa that's what the african scientists are saying the media has been attacking me for pointing out that south africa admitted they develop the stuff that was the classified the mid ninety's as you know with project coast and you know i work with them too right that's well no you know shows so you're saying in your view as an expert you believe that this is a western developed bio weapon crossed with a call because the army has come out with a report on force dot com today and said they believe that it will transfer like influenza a in temperatures below forty five degrees and will go airborne this  i think it's been manufactured to be airborne to some extent although for your viewers i want to make it clear i have never had access to any type of classified information i've never had a government security only when you were in requests where you could actually get something but these days you can't get anything and you just have to read the press and scientific literature very carefully do find out what's going on yes so i could inserting the influence of virus on today the new york times i just said you my comment on that says that they are going to be testing out three types of vaccines over there the two i mentioned and a surge involving the flu and to be even more contagious then then the other two if that's what the the new york times says they're going to do those and and we have to understand the weapon comes first and then the vaccine though alex is in itself fundamental rule biological warfare that you do not launch a biological warfare attack on anyone and less you have already developed  wouldn't come in here that's ridiculous we spent seventy nine billion dollars on this stuff since nine eleven and that's the bioshield program all of everything all the bio warfare together from nine eleven till now magically they've got all these vaccines they say are going to be ready just by the end of the year next year that lo and behold basically match what we see popping up in africa and the africans are saying listen there's many un vaccination programs and other things that's where it's coming from they're running they know and then it goes back to the boldness of the establishment why would obama then and others let it spread everywhere around the u s and lie about it and disappear people we now know that's going on which is some of the severity then i guess it's to hold the panic till they're ready to roll it out in imposers shave years it just seems like such a bold move i don't really this is the most crazy thing i've ever broadcast on this is overwhelming me psychologically i don't know what to say dr boyle what do you think is happening you know it fits the pattern of what happened on september eleventh two thousand and one with the anthrax attacks that we know those were  goes attacks because they knew the attacks were coming that's associated press right that's that's all over so my own assessment of the situation is stand on galveston and i age already have these vaccines along with the agents and i suspect our alit have already been minister these vaccines to protect them from the glow back which is undoubtedly coming if you look at the new york seventy six sent to porton down which is the british equivalent of our for dietrich and that's where they got caught doing all the mental experiments on the troops right and d d that's their poor dietrich and it obviously