we're calling on one minute it's for professional baby boomer women what we want to do was help them to identify those talents skills your passions to transition over into the second phase of life where they can continue to provide a service to continue just to just to live life at its best but using those talents and skills that we enjoy the passions because it's like out time now in life apps and we want women to continue this part of  point in time and we also talk a lot about fun and recreation which is something we're going to have an upcoming shelves but i'm psyched about the person that we have today so i want to make that i said about having janet she is a global head of learning and i think that williams lee in her new york and i'll pass it over to janet janet well they tell you a little bit more you know a little background information sure absolutely wise and that it is well great thank you well i'm thrilled to be here and it's wonderful to have a show to have this form so we can continue the discussion so yes my background thank you you introduced me as global head of learning and development and that is in fact true so what that means is i run the training function for major organization but by way of background in education i'm also a human capital strategist so i do a lot of work both in how the financial mentioned wise advantage as well so if you think of it in terms of i'm in the boardroom when the senior leaders are designing their business strategy ok i'm there as part of a chore to look at the people assets so how will the people assets deliver against those strategies so you're aligning the talents and skills of the state organizations personnel with where they want to go in the company those next positions of importance for the company correct correct and with that also trying to engage the embroidery by tapping into their own brilliance so that it's a win win for everybody so you're actually utilizing those things which is key for us this is what we want really love about like two point zero is really about aligning your talents your skills your passions that you enjoy that you're good at because i think that's going to just bring out the best enough that not just for ourselves but if we're still working the best in the organization as well as truly have the best people a signature program called the baby boomer to address really that jackie those needs i guess right that's right yes talked about so it's great if you're in an organization that has a robust learning and development or executive  education or coaching programs but what happens to those individuals who maybe aren't tapped who are in a merger leader but look there's only so many slots for prime assignments as you're going up the ladder only certain amount of opportunities for high potential programs so why not be able to take a step back and combine my experience right and my passions and sort of live by in model what we're talking about here by offering a program that is targeted to women and baby boomers right away it's made career to senior level women to be able to define articulate and celebrate what i call their brilliance and that's what i think i love about what what she's doing is because you know a lot of times or some of our previous shows we've talked about we've shown women who have stepped out of corporate and they've started their own business or we have one show a good friend of mine she retired and she started her own nonprofit but there is a great many of professional baby boomer women you know because we go from age fifty two up to in a sense seventy that still want to spend time in corporate so to be able to but still i want to say  and doing what you're doing in a corporate environment because your skills and your talents are aligned what excites you i think is great so that bad i think i can mentor one because it's not just about stepping away but still being very successful and so with that if we take that step back and we say how do we look at engagement when ization has its you know front center right so people are driving the strategy that where that the organizations are delivering on and what often times i like to say this is the best time to be a baby boomer to be where we are as is a whole convergence of of culture of shifts of power a shift and we can own it we can take control so similarly if we are find ourselves in roles not want your audience reading about legacy roles as though you know we're sort of rolling out it's interesting and into the sunset ins it's about getting excited about it what can i do by looking at right back on my career ok and that's the brilliance of it we have reached a point our pinnacle in our career we have a breath indic experience of talents we know ourselves right or we should know ourselves enough to say what what engages me ok not how is this organization and it continued right gauge me while i think about transition right i what can i do in the current role that engages me and plays to my strengths think of it as your signature strengths and look at that within the context of your organization how can you apply them again you can relax a little bit i would submit at this point in your career because you have this social capital that you right have built your brand they know they know where you are right right right how else might you be able to tap into not so much worried about just climbing a ladder hopefully you've arrived right close to have arrived now bring it all to play make it work for you in we should really appreciate the fact that yes we are older and with that age comes so much experience and knowledge that we have and we still have to offer to to corporate america yes yes  excite me in an organization that i'm bringing that are not just related to write a learning and development function ok so it could be something that i want to do in the marketing area and bringing that in so it's all about being able to take that self inventory take a step back and sometimes you can do it for yourself sometimes you can do it with you know with a collie you can do it with your family members i can give your audience kind of three key takeaway ok right right right that it number two one of those things that excite you again no judgment and think outside the box and when i say think outside the box the box has no lines right so don't just think about in the area that you're all right right why don't do you recommend or do you encourage them to think about not just this period in life but going all the way back to when your child like this whole life journey where those pieces of what one of those things as i feel it has a connection absolutely it has a connection now look we all know those stories or maybe you know we're friends or maybe were married or have a significant other who says i right yeah right so you raise an excellent point so yes it is about looking back over not just your career but also your life because the third piece in that with a take away is what do you passionate about ok what are you passionate about and it could have been something that for a variety of reasons you you your parents your guidance has a summerset if you do that you know what you never have a career and that you won't make money at that so they kind of  idea so yes you have to look at that entire breath and death and then when you know what we do is we do a couple of many classes that are on on our website like to point to community dot com which help people to start to that journey i would like to point to one of our first lesson is reflection to get you to start thinking back and moving forward but what i want to say about passion because i know i struggled with that in the beginning when i was trying to develop all of this passion i think for me my definition would be it's that something that you know what it doesn't go away it's that nagging thing it's something that you get excited about every time you think about it you may have put it on a show but it's always kind of comes back to you you can't seem to let it go so i would tell people you know what my passion about think about what doesn't go away what's that one thing that's right snagging you or  what brothers you dog is your i mean to fix that and if that's something you're saying i need to fix i think that's something you're passionate about because you see there's a way to make it better you see which kind of brought up this memory for me is that as a child my love was puzzles but the more pieces it had the better it just excited me so you know where i was i know because it's a brain fifty million things together we've got to analyze it to death before we do it but at the flip side of that but that's something i guess you'd say tangible but for me because when we were talking i said to her i grew up in a home where my parents were always taking people in you know the van li member needed you know help or was looking for an hour one was almost like the whole time to take in family members until they got on your favorite so she asked me was i the kid you know that was always hoping people will know i was very shy as a kid but that was my background that we were always my family was always helping it was always helping someone get to come into a home so they could make their lives a little bit better so those are all different  about that but how that experience early on yes has played into the role that you're doing today in continuing to take people and i'll be in this in his or her to all media where i continue to help them wri manage people i love training and developing people so i think that was something that got uncovered yet of my base upon my corporate spirits of something that i love to do and was passionate about so you're fortunate in that and those who w most important influence on somebody is engaged right ok but with that you still drive your own career whether you've been in that organization for twenty years or two years you are responsible yet for our own engagement yes so let's say that we're in a position that doesn't allow us the opportunity right but you have the social and community forget called social capital within the organization organization so can you just give us a little bit of a thing how do you navigate to actually bring that we're not out so that you can start creating your own legacy type thing sure so the first piece is alignment trivia thinking about rents right i want you to think about alignment and i want you think about with in the organizational context so where can you bring what i call your signature strengths your your brilliant to play if it's not in the current role what in in finance but you really do have a signature strength that's going to play to marketing or to sell again that's what you want to explore ok but another way is looking at many organizations now have opportunities for corporate social responsibility programs or some sort of sustainability programs that syrupy says what are you passionate about it's not just your talents but what causes what charities write what you want to know what impact do you want to contribute to the look at into your organization's look at their c s r program and how can you contribute to that because and that's and the point that she just made i think is good because a lot of times we may be in a position and we want to go to another level but that position we're currently and those and show that yes we have that talent but you're doing something out on the outside you may be part of a committee for community organization those are the things you need to bring forth to your employee to say yeah i'm a not have that skill that i'm showing or are exemplifying that skill in this mission but on the outside this is what i'm doing that ties into th next level that i want to go to absolutely and another good point that you raise with that jacki is again you know baby boomers we typically came up we're typically in traditionalist high organizations and we still especially women maybe of a mindset who are thinking about that the organization is going to take care of us whether they will whether they won't don't take it personally it's just business like but you are responsible for you and your career right right exactly and if they aren't providing that opportunity right like you say you do need to seek it elsewhere not saying that you need to leave your current lawyer ok but also what are those opportunities for you to contribute in your community right you know life two point zero what else can you deliver that you need a platform for or or that you simply want to be behind the scenes because that's going to feed your soul right we've earned the right at this point in our career to be able to design it absolutely and we especially for women we need to be thinking about what is that next phase only you can design it but how are you preparing for it the same way you would prepare for that next promotion or that next that next advancement you need to be thinking right about what's that next role going to be and as you say creating those opportunities to give yourself the experience it's personal branding it's strategic and it's also about having a compelling story right right and there's so many colleges that are offering different types of  learning programs so i think that's the other area for us because you know we we're at certain level our career we're kind of comfortable yes we also need to be able to go back and continue learning so maybe we don't have that nesses we don't we have ninety five percent of what's needed for the next step that five percent is something that just take the course take a course yeah i mean i keep i tell people i met sabrina because i was so out at work and i said i need to do something i love doing so i took interior design courses at night while i was still working and i loved that i was around people who were created and that to me you know looking back that led me to joining sabrina and we have done amazing interior design projects but you just never know where life is going to take you and those opportunities where it's something you love doing because you never know later on in life where that is going to take you absolutely and it feeds into those red threads because nothing no experience should ever be viewed as a something wasted whether you realize it right  right away or you capitalize it you know two decades from now and that piece reminds me of when i was a young girl and i wanted to date and go out and i was in new york city so you would think you know plenty of opportunity and there was but often times i would be at home and my mother used to say to me janet nobody's going to come knocking on the door one hundred eighty six i mean yes i can have you i know you're fabulous ok so you do have to put yourself out right similarly the way that you did in an organization players know it wasn't for me but i encourage my clients in those that i coach in house find a class or some group so you're afficionado about carlos go find out about the  sometimes a dies or it just kind of goes to sleep and it really the awakens that again but just understanding how different brains you know different people look at the same problem comes up with a much better right it's exposure it's an experience right right and you know another thing when she said that i remember kind of back going back nine years or so and so when i was working but i know part of what i did with my team if i knew someone wanted to their next career step they wanted to do x if there was an opportunity where that person could maybe go out or spend time with someone that was already doing it now yes sometimes it might have been you know taking extra time or from just your normal work but it was that valuable experience of being with someone who's doing what you want to do later on take that operate and i think that people will be flattered you know people came to me and said oh you know i want to be a manager you know can i you know pick your brain or since i would have enjoyed that and you know it again it's an excellent point because we tend to think of that is job shadowing and as something that's perhaps somebody more junior who are just coming up in their career can do no they're first of all so i have a master's in adult education let me tell you we all know how adults like to learn we want to join recognize for our brilliance criterion and there is nothing more flattering that saying hey i saw the way you did that would it be ok if i pick your brains out there or could i spend an afternoon when i could i could i talk to some of the folks on your team what ever that experience is coming from i almost submit to you that i think about this of where you are baby boomers yeah ok if another europe here approaches you that to write your conversation exec lee and when the opportunity arises that maybe deposition opens you've already you've made that a contact and that contact is someone that you've had the opportunity to work with they get to know you a little bit more but because you're kind of at that same age and so forth it just speaks because they're recognizing all the skills and talents that you bring to the table so if that's any of them i want you to cover on why i think ok yes because we're getting closer to time can you talk a little bit about how organizations are recognizing that there is going to be an exit of a humongous  knowledge right hour or whatever you want or can you speak to that a little bit and how they're addressing that or how they're starting to recognize it and what are some of the things they might be doing to help sure you know i would submit that organization the majority of organizations aren't doing enough so they're in while they're they're looking to you know drive revenue growth or are you know shareholder yield etc the fact that there are so many because they have their eyes just on or on a different ball so it depends on the organization simile just like you know it depends on who the manager was you were your great manager how are they how are they leveraging that but if you are a baby boomer who can begin to think of that here as an opportunity for you in your organization to say ok how can i create whether it's a form a robust repository reverse mentoring that is one  that organizations are doing and it's it's benefiting the baby boomers right you well the only be carso though i think they're really focused on the millennial there's so much talk about the millennium goals and how they want to learn it right there or that some of the other organizational context tied into where can be a win win for the organization right by sharing her or yes we have like less than a minute ok so you have just review those three read threads again to start helping people on track that aren't thinking in the sure the three key takeaways to jump start this is to think about one think about a make a list what do your clients colleagues friends and family say you do well right number two what gets you excited what gets you excited what makes you jump out of bed in the morning and if there is what do you passion about bring your values in think about those charities think about how