hello and welcome to our b b show up close and personal i mean hosting us here to take you through this musical dance we call life and to do that you know i always bring on phenomenal people to help us make it through they give us chips to help us make it through today's guess is a phenomenally talented musician composer art director music director works workshop director phenomenal man he is the one who penned the song that's touching everyone the entire nation  every praise well gives me chills when i say it he is a husband he's a father he is a humble man of god he is none other than j david brat and my friend thank you so much for being here  be here i'm having a blast and you sound amazing oh my goodness it is so much i'm so honored to have you here it's been such a long time since i've seen you it's been a while but you have but you know when you have good people in your life and good go through that but i didn't know that you have a master's in mathematics and degrees in business administration what were you supposed to be doing with that you know so i've always you know i got a degree in business administration and economics  d working on my masters at hunter college in mathematics because it's interesting when i was in high school i wasn't good at math and when i got the car was there was a good in it either but after i graduated college and started going to harder everything made sense really do ministry together and also we're always in front of large groups of people right and because i'm in front of groups always talking talking about ministry i want to have credibility in my words and when i want to make sure the what i'm saying is s d and has a foundation so i know if i go to seminary i'll learn some things so that when i'm talking and have the opportunity to influence people have the opportunity to guide people in the right direction with my words will be accurate right ok so the math of the economics well the economics he has as oh yeah the business but we're really doing too much with a man because your life is such that ministry since i met you guys you know at a couple of times i thought i was going to have an opportunity to work with use all of my abilities this is the first time i've been able to use all of my abilities and all of the areas that god has given me and i'm really excited and that brings us to a question that will get to later ok so now you've written so many wonderful songs i mean some songs i didn't even know ok that you wrote so first let's start with how long does it take you to write a song it varies sometimes i'll start like every praise i started every praise in two thousand and eight could use that god my savior thing on a song that i did in ninety seven that never came out and so you know anyway it just kind of you know grew into the song but that song you know it grew over time because it was congregational i find that the congregation of songs kind of develop in the congregational but some songs that i write there are other songs that i've written in as short as fifteen minutes sing or sometimes i look in roman sometimes and so on sometimes in proverbs sometimes revelations and something that sings to me then i'll usually have my voice recorder and i'll just sing whatever it is and then i'll listen to it over and over and over and over and i'll start to hear the music that goes with it some songs happen that way some songs out here have a whole melody all one shot then you know and then sometimes i will start a song and i won't finish it until i'm actually in the studio working on it ok and that's happened to me a couple times and i like i just trust god willing he says it's good awesome because i know all songs you got something new i got these four lines but it's not been this is efficient not we need to do it he said just teach it we'll figure it out i was like yeah but it's not that he's like well we do and it's not so that's when you know i'm used to it  that my friend david breton wrote the song so tell us some of the names of the songs that you've written that are really popular like on timothy right and like i did my first musical arrangement ever it was a song actually written by timothy right but it was my first time doing a musical arrangement is a law who's on the lips i mean this guy thing that matter all the time yeah and so you know older and we were about to record an elder right comes in two days before the recording this is i got this song i wan try so he started teaching it and we started playing the exhibit i need an introduction so i tried a couple of things it's like not it's not it and i played this thing and he's like no that's not it and one of the other musicians  well that a lot of people sing is called song sixty three oh god you are my god they sing that all over the place i'm finding all these places and i get messages from people in portugal and spain  always that you do that no i didn't write it but i did the musical arrangement for that as well ok so let's go to writing when you write out the songs and focusing them all over yes you will see this yes well you know what around and make sure like they'll call me and say said such as doing your song halfway across the world you know and we found was he for you or you know so those really been it been a blessing because every praises everywhere it has shown up all over the place so the money for the folks that need to know is not really in the singing it's in the songwriting i mean there's money in the singing of course yeah you know because when you're singing you make money when you he brought three of us myself and two other musicians and he brought three of us at the same time and i was the only one who stayed the ever to move back to the south carolina within like six months and i stayed and  like i love new york i'm not going nowhere here that you know so how do you manage all these responsibilities directing the choir writing songs traveling with other people singing with groups you know what i try to do is just make sure i'm doing the things i when i meet people and i have an opportunity if i know i can be a blessing and as long as long as god tells me it's ok to do it i'll do it i find that now now my time's a little different so and i'm in the middle of  working with a couple of television networks and working with i just finished one cd i'm in the middle of doing another one i just finished another single for a group down south which is up this is probably one of my i'm so proud of this project i will have bishop even our jordan pastor deborah jordan ministries because that's where i play every sunday and so when i got to the church he said look we're about to have this major conference can you finish  who sung something during service and i said ok let's make that into a song so i would take bits and pieces of things that happen in service you know because i find that the best songs you know you can when you feel lance ration from god and you're able to interpret it right then and there not just the song but the atmosphere that goes along with it if you can capture that so every sunday we record every service as if we're doing a cd recording nice and whatever we find us or we just grab it and go work on it that's such a good idea i mean yes yeah one only all marry him all together you know well they come at different times and in different assignments come a different time you know i was a schoolteacher for fifteen years yeah top of the school fifteen and the only reason i stopped teaching was because my travel became so elaborate that i was unable to get back but other than that teaching was something i loved and that was great for a season while i was teaching i got a call to do a project and in order to do the project i had to take a leave of absence of leave absence never went back and i made my wife said i make making this promise i'll keep doing music as long as the income from it is so let's back up to every praise for a minute did you think that it was going to be once you got all the lines together did you think that it was going to be as big as it is i thought that it was too simple and that it would be something that people laughed at because it did have a verse it was very elaborate very simple but i said you know you know anything god has given me i'll just teaching and saying that whatever happens my job is to get me out of the way and whatever god wants to do i was like ok well let's sing it let's go with it see what happens will never hear is right and the difference between this song and all my other songs is the machine and bishop walker i went to a rehearsal he was like them teach choirs up and i taught them every phrase and he actually had left to go preach  we've talked about you yeah so these are all good people i'm looking forward to coming to love the church yes i came and visited the church and then twenty some years i think maybe about a year and a half ago well that i came well it wasn't during the service  do workshops and i try to teach writers about the quality of the lyrics pray and ask and stick with the bible you know there is an answer or a message for everything in the bible that yes and to me that's like the playbook for anything that you want to do ministry as you can read other things to enhance what you know but the bible is the foundation so many times i would just open my bible and start singing whatever was on the page this is the part i don't get you start singing i'm trying to figure out where the melody comes from yeah so it's like i was you know saying and you hear the melody because it's it's the the difference between poetry and a musical levels and god has given me a gift to be you and sometimes we crack jokes and say you know oh i can give you a basket full of rocks and you can make them sing an army is a give the guy gave me  did not realize it until a friend of mine pointed it out to me while i was a college who's like you have an ear you have this thing called perfect pitch which i know nothing about like you have an ability to hear that i hear everything musically like when people talk i can normally find there the notes that are saying on a piano when people laugh in the sand and he said ops cure sounds i hear everything and notes and i thought everybody heard that way he thought everybody heard that kno delegate yeah i was there and what i do is when i get an assignment from a publishing company ok we need a song on this topic i will go in the bible and find a message that fits the topic and then make the song i will say whatever god gives me but you know the bible says he that want to souls is wise and many times you can use the scripture in the word of god and just talk to people about it if you don't quote where it is in the bible they won't always bible does just think it makes good sense so you know sometimes you're when you're in a church setting you quote words from but when you're just talking to somebody or in your in that's in a non church setting just say the word is still just as effective because they may not hear it right it was attached to absolute was absolutely give me two to three tips that someone who wants to be a composer can go right out and say i gotta do this and what should they do first so they can you know follow in your footsteps you know the first thing is you have to really read your bible you know because god speaks to people but you won't know what he sounds like if you don't listen to the word that he already wrote and he gave us the bible so that when he starts to speak to us will know what  like i thought people all time if you want to do music you know take your bible and just see what it will do ok that's one of the other thing is you have to be willing to spend time at least two hours a day for two years you can do you you can study anything for two hours a day for two years and become an expert really yes you know and so i tell people all the time just put time aside dedicated time i still practice i still go in my basement i go every morning i still work without practicing playing or write laying writing everything i go down in my basement open up the organ put the bible there i have my voice recorder there i have my computer there so i can reference different scriptures character you can go a long way if people can trust you you know and if you find yourself being an honest person and a person of character and high regard that will get you in doors that your talent will get and this relationship absolutely ever since so you said you had to project was this one and you got another one and the other one is coming out there we're working on now that's bishop michael blue from marion south carolina ok he's actually preaching at bishop jakes church on april twent