must say everyone michel gramberg here welcome to another episode of positive energy bringing enlightening television for your evolving soul is life truly a spiritual journey are we here on this earth mainly to learn and grow spiritually is it possible for each of us to attain a more evolved state while according to my guest the answer is yes rich for kone author and spirit medium is here to share his personal journey of transformation from undercover narcotics investigator to spiritual mentor stay tuned as positive energy starts right now  michelle i'm so happy you're here i am here with richburg coney who is an undercover narcotics a tech to have a martial arts student made the big leap to where now he's a spirit medium a spiritual mentor and a new wonderful you and i go back a long time we do so it's really awesome to have you here on the show to talk about value and what's happening and help people yes so i know in your book and i totally agree that we're each on an individual journey of spiritual growth yes so why is it important to know that and make it a focus in life i think that when you know what i've learned from all this is we i grew up with a philosophy about life that really didn't include love and how it works opening yourself up your spirit helps you understand there's a coexistence that we sever when we were kids and we can open that co existence up and then we see that there's always a guidance that's being filled with our life that is always pushing us towards love base experiences and it's difficult to have that if you don't live spiritually cent i love it so it all swings back to love these are spirit is about love well it's about the love that's guiding us and being aware of that one hundred percent you say we get disconnected to that yes at some age a little different for everybody yeah the way i look at it is that you know there's a there's a philosophy about life that we're taught our society i was so we have a spiritual learn society our parents our school systems everybody teaches us to use our brain to interpret life and even though it does a good job it does never acknowledges the existence of your spirit or the communication of your spirit nor do we ever discuss about how the communication of love equally affects all of our lives and how to use that as a source of guidance for life so we get disconnected from using our spirit even no children are very spiritually centered when they're first born the very pure spirit we get disconnected just because it is a poor philosophy in life it's not a spiritual learn philosophy so how would that look if we live from our spirit from that place of love yeah i would change the world in the big way and it would change as a relationship so how how would that look do you think for people or how does it look how to look for you as you've grown so what i started doing is you know i open myself up to the truth and so everything i was personally experience i would just contemplated so there's a difference between mental thinking and spiritual contemplation so i would contemplate like that means i would be open to the truth what i learned is that love is always spiritual helpful or love is always being helpful either to ourselves or to someone else but the growth of their spirit and when you learn how to open yourself up to how to be helpful to the growth of your spirit what you're learning how to do is becoming more of god or more of a higher wisdom and if everybody just took on that role for themselves then there's a unity of purpose we're all trying to be helpful to one another become more god or more loving people and it works out perfectly yeah because it would be completely supportive of each other's same goal yeah we all have absolutely if we came from that awareness absolutely so you know as that you're saying we have all have higher wisdom yes and we all have higher knowledge we're all connected to it we're just to varying degrees pinched off from it yes how do we get you've done it through contemplation and meditation and just centering and focusing on it  is that what you suggest to others how they can get in touch with that higher wisdom in themselves right now yeah one hundred percent you know with me i was at a low point in my life and now was i guess the turning point to help me say i want to do my life differently than how i was taught by my parents or society or my religion or schooling and so i learned how to open myself up to the truth and when i examine that moment of what i was first starting to do it was about giving up control over my life it was about giving up sole ownership over my life everybody has the power of doing that if everybody just takes their life for him and it slows it down and just says i'm going to give up so ownership i'm not going to try to control things anymore and i realise that when i was trying to control life on my own i didn't have the wisdom to produce positive and loving outcomes to my choices when i gave up sole ownership over my life my life started being we educated with more of a love based philosophy and when i follow this philosophy it puts everything in perspective and everybody can do that everybody can just give up sole ownership over their life that's the first step and then you activate the storm of communication inside of your spirit and that really grows yeah i love it sir surrendering but surrendering is not giving anything up it's actually being more aware yes be more aware of the flow that's already in you and around you yes and that brings in  life so when you give up ownership over your life you're saying i can't do it myself think about a little spiritual child or even a little child a child doesn't have the wisdom to make choices so our parents come along and god isn't life think about you have a spiritual parent and you're just not born into this life with the wisdom to do like by yourself but when you surrender ownership of your life you reestablish a coexistence and a copartnership that you have and then you never feel lonely anymore you always feel this guidance to do what's loving your life chefs completely yeah it's amazing and that's when the abundance that's when the abundance comes and that's what's proven in my life anyway i was going to say you're you're living proof of that living proof and still on the journey of course senate learning and living and growing and all of that yeah but we all have a higher purpose yeah it's specific but it's also a general right people tend to lock themselves in right a little bit too detail oriented with what's my purpose and people get stressed over that sometimes i just heard people say that so how do you advise people how they can follow understand what their higher purpose is and what happens i know you talk to the book about was when we don't follow our purpose what happens this life fall apart you know it's cool because it actually shows you two different directions so everybody has a destiny in life and i always say our destiny is something that's universal to all people meaning being more of god or being more loving people so if you follow what your brain tells you your brain will never introduce you to your spirit or a love based philosophy it will actually tell you a loving things to do and you'll pursue a life based on that then if you turn to your spirit your spirit goes oh wait what we're being denied to do there's a higher purpose to all of that and then you learn how to you learn how to follow that when you follow just what your brain tells you you suffer you have unloving experiences you have poor relationships you have poor outcomes of your choices things don't work out for you but you don't have to suffer in life to learn from your life you can learn from your positive choices and your loving experiences as well as your unloving experiences so that's the separation you're still going to learn become more of god and learned the individual natural laws but you don't have to suffer in the process of doing it yeah sounds simple and that in that regard right well it's an evolution in you know that's why i say over the past ten years of my life that this changes happen i've seen more personal miracles happen in the past ten years in my life than the first forty four it's amazing it's like you said it's a demonstration of a way of life that i share with people yeah yeah it's a choice but awareness is the first step awareness huge that's different than what you observe with your brain that spiritual awareness should be calm aware of energy that your spirit has the ability to interpret well let's talk a lot about almost like the opposite of love which is fear in general i well we see a lot of fear in the world and it shows up as hate and anger and violence and other forms of here that are showing up it seems would you say speeding up more and more but perhaps it isn't maybe it's all the way in that we look at it how do you look at it through the eyes of love when you see all of that fear what do you say about that from that spiritual perspective which is it's an amazing question what you're answering or what you're asking me to answer and so like in my life when i would take all this and i would just contemplate it all that's what i said to myself like when i became fearful of stuff and so i was when i started contemplating it all i realize it's a mental response and so when i took when i just piece it all together i said ok what is it that fear in fear of and what it came back was it's a mental response of whatever my brain says it can control to produce the outcome that it wants for itself i have a fear of it so it's like the survival brain  stroke your brain imagine like you say i have a fear of talking in front of people you really don't have a fear of talking in front of people your fear is i can't control them to respond to me to what i'm about to say in the way that i want if i could i could control it all everybody would agree with what i'm saying i would have a fear of talking that's it and so when you turn to your spirit i found that mental anger mental fear it all started just minimizing and drifting away because everything that was being guided to do was already pre determined it was going to produce a positive outcome and it's a different way of living your life through his guidance and that's nothing to ever be in fear of knowing that whatever it is that you're about to choose your aligning yourself with is going to produce a positive outcome so it's different than mental fear saying i can't control it all and your spirits gone like just following what god wants and it's always going to work out the way that one yeah yeah so it's about you understanding the difference between what's coming from mine and what's coming from and soul yes essence yes you know and feeling into that so i know you talk a lot about spiritual forms of communication and communicating from love and how that can transform relationships communication is really the basis of all misunderstandings and fights and disagreements so giving one tip to someone to use just the crumb or express or listen from a loving place so if you if you take relationships with people look at everybody as a guest in your life a spiritual guest i love that right so you don't see a people as your possession that you can talk to them any way that you want to look at them as a guest in your life when you when you perceive people or when you come from this point of view that everybody's a guest in are your possessions and you can talk to them any way that you want you're showing you're showing a words or actions that aren't based on love but if you just see people as guests you realize that everybody is growing you're always going to be a loving and welcoming person in their life because that's how we are with gas we want them to stay or be part of our life but at the very same time a guest everything that they do is a representation of their own level of wisdom in a level of love so never take a personal don't take something personal somebody says or just representing their own level of love and wisdom that they've learned for themselves that's a beautiful beautiful rule and go lovely rule it's a natural law you naturally have a natural law can come to your spirit and if you do that all relationships work out as long as everybody is open to the truth and wanting to truthfully change a relationship to work out so you are a medium and you connect with loved ones on the other side in groups and one on one what is the main message you know tagging with already saying that our loved ones want us to know what's it like for them on the other side you know in terms of death in the afterlife what's what's the main message i know you're going to say it's all about well actually there's more of us and as you know more than that there's a you know it's it's it's two things that i've noticed with this right so doing going to locations where i communicate i demonstrate the communication of our spirit to be able to communicate with other sources of energy so look at people your loved ones as another source of energy but also to you can see medical imbalances  people because they're also a source of energy so you call that medical intuition people call it medical intuition you talk to higher wisdom so people talk that channeling you're channeling higher wisdom you can see future events people call you a psychic they have different labels for just the communication of your spirit your spirit has the ability to communicate with other sources of spiritual energy and it's something for people just to welcome in their life and not look as mystical spirits on the other side what's cool is that when they cross over they don't have a brain to turn to anymore the thinking part that always added to their life it's gone and they see life in a truthful way and i can't tell you how many times when you cross over their life is not influenced by society's society's influenced by money and that's what decided they created on some man created society based on money not love to sue such thing when the other side it's all love when they see their life in a truthful way they see the outcome of their choices so if they cause pain in somebodies life they feel that now where you can distance yourself from that here if you created somebodies life to look forward in you know in a happy way or to move forward in a happy way you see that you cause that you see the truth about yourself it humbles them so a lot of times they speak words and they never talk about a rich i should have made more money it's like i should change just about myself i should have learned is because again they don't think anymore so they don't have a brain to offer resistance in what these spirits you know to be true so these are great moments the other thing to w do the gallery's these are moments to increase the ability for me to communicate better so i'm actually growing the communication of my spirit and so i watch it every year get better like now i'm start like spirits of tell me their last names not in their bodies were purely coming from heart they're your teacher is and you're their medium you know you're the intermediary what you call them and their loved ones who might not necessarily be able to hear although as you always say we can develop that it's but it's natural it's really wired into italy into us yes as part of our system yes right i love that you're showing the way yes for that and empowering people just to redefine their life i was still people  skeptical about what you see me do but also be skeptical about what you were taught i don't care if your religion or your family or school or whatever the case may be just be open to the truth allow yourself to truthfully change that's the one true religion that affects everybody's life equally just being open to the truth your spirit will resonate with the truth it's so cool well they they are you know speaking of the galleries they're just they're beautiful experiences the energy in the room is always quite a high wonderful experience i dolly recommend you not right in the beginning that was huge for me that was huge so thank you for blessing my life thanks yes yes you're doing something really exciting here you are on a cruise yeah in france yes no more sank oh yes a couple of things about that and that's amazing you know we always talk about like you you align yourself with a love based philosophy and you never try to control the outcome in disarray under it and watching just through word of mouth are people talking this whole event coming together so joan is i drove to a mega to speak with her she's the most beautiful lady down to earth humble knowledgeable intelligent she's amazing and so she has this huge background and the mind body connection how do you make a healthy union out of it so she's actually a doctor she's a cell biology is a graduate from harvard but the most important is are spirit she's very she's very focused and very you know just humble and down to earth so she's going to present events done how to make the mind body harmony in people's lives to really prosper and then i'm going to do the spiritual side of it all and so everybody gets together on this cruise it's going to take place next november from the november twelfth to the nineteenth we're going to go down the river on in france we're going to hit seven major ports the scenic the scenery supposed to be just absolutely gorgeous and then when you're not in town enjoying france and all the great scenery you're going to be night time you're going to spiritual events or mind body events and you're just going to get this immersive experience that you'll never get again y that sounds so absolutely beautiful yeah looking forward to it's a great opportunity my goodness yeah and who knows from there were where that will go as well correct correct yes well it's been wonderful to watch your journey from an outsider perspective  here that it is your journey itself it is teaching others about their journey yes so what's the main sort of inspiring message that you would love to convey to people more than anything else let's say their home feeling a little down at the moment healing disconnected from their their spirit what do you want to tell them in the thing that i would like to share with people the most something i just discovered for myself is that there is a power inside of us and so if you turn inwardly if you start to acknowledge that you are a spirit and you give up ownership over your life you reestablish that coexistence with higher wisdom you're going to find that your life is going to shift people are going to shift out of it you have to let them go other good people are going to shift into it you have to welcome it but you want to align yourself with the way of life where the outcome of your choices are always going to produce loving experiences for you to learn from and there is that way of life and i want to empower people to go and search for it because when you finally do you'll have this statement i make all the time i'll say i never wanted to do it again but is the thing i am most proud of that i went through of it's a challenging moment for you you don't want to experience it all again but the outcome of what you did you'll never be more proud of yourself that's awesome you know it's a spiritual journey we are humans on a spiritual journey but that doesn't mean it's super easy it does take courage does take showing up yeah yeah it does take getting out of bed in the morning and engaging a little bit in life yes being willing to go past the barriers and if you need help reach out for help we have felt for someone who inspires you to reach out to a book it's available whatever resources that you need will they really it really will find you i so agree with you you know it's always helpful when you have someone else encouraging you were going along and you know in saying all this i think the most challenging thing is that we live in a spiritual learn societies do not i don't look at people as good or bad anymore either your spiritual learned or you're not spiritual and if you're spiritual learned it means you don't have a love based philosophy that you follow in life and so inside of that way i think it's important to know your greatest challenges are going to come from the influence of people that are spiritually learned so just put a smile on your face develop your own voice and at the end of the day i always look at myself and go how did i do and it's almost as if god was talk to me like you could have done better here which he did also right here and so i learned how to speak to myself and acknowledge the truth about what i was experiencing in life and what i was doing in life now so what i also get from that is not to judge yourself yes and not to judge others and and as much as you can surround yourself with like energy the like hearted like minded people if there was don't exist your life you know stranger change or yeah we deserve a better life we're destined to have a better life and i think that's an important role that we should take in our life yeah beautiful messages yeah you know message yeah yeah well rich you are an inspiration to me and thank you for the work that you're doing in the world thank you keep spreading that positive energy thank you very much and thank you so much it's a real pleasure always always where wrapping up another enlightening show please remember spirituality does not need to be something formally learned it's your unique direct relationship with some sacred dimension of existence so before you go looking outside yourself first take an inward journey of spiritual self discovery thank you monday morning flowers in princeton for the beautiful floral arrangement thank you for watching please visit 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