i'd like to call to order the regular virtual city council meeting of the city of lakewood colorado on november twenty rd twenty twenty at seven p m will the clerk please call roll quorum thank you madam clerk i appreciate that i'd like to welcome everybody who's tuning in tonight or if you'll be joining us at a later date two kind of clerical i was actually three so they'll be a couple opportunities for public comment this evening and that dial in number which you should also see on the screen is one two five three two one five eight seven eight two with the webinar i d of nine eight four one six one five seven six nine four once you dial in the webinar please press pound you'll then press star nine to request to speak and then once you've been called on star six will a mute and we'll go through our normal protocol for three minutes based upon that item thirteen for those folks who may be tuning in that's resolution twenty twenty dash forty five authoriz allocations for five three three van gordon street there will be a motion to hold that over i think until mid december based upon a couple of things that you probably seen from the planning director travis parker memo that went out late last week so again item thirteen will be a motion to extend layover and then we will again move up the emergency declaration from under general business which is item nine and do that after item five which is city manager's executive reports so with that if you please join me in the pledge of allegiance and we'll also have a moment of silent prayer pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for all all right thank you very much so next up we have general public comment this is th point of the meeting where the public is invited to address the city council on items that did not appear on the agenda all comments should be directed to the city council i ask that all persons calling in observe the same decorum of a city council meeting held in person in chambers there'll be other opportunities to speak on the resolution under consent to gender consent agenda as well as a bloc of other resolutions and the second reading already ordinance so again if you dial in one two five three two and i will let you know when you have about thirty seconds left and if you give us your name and address or name and ward we will get you started mayor you are not showing video just in case you're not aware thank you councilor franks figured i'd all right we have a couple of hands up to speak looks like madam clerk i'll just let you call the last four call ending in three three seven nine all right color three three seven nine if you press mute and we will get your three minutes that that decision has been made the decision to proceed i wanted to respond to some information presented at your june th water study session which i found extremely interesting  and risks gave a nice overview of the project he's from the colorado water conservation board and and she suggested in her presentation that it would be very similar to the chatfield project and i just wanted to address that because while there are some similarities most notably that both projects propose a twenty thousand acre expansion of storage chatfield park and reservoir are so much bigger than bear creek lake park and reservoir the chatfield park about three times the size of bear creek lake park and the impact of a twenty thousand acre foot increase at chatfield is much less devastating than what would happen here they haven't filled that chap old reservoir to that new capacity yet they anticipate involve a thirty nine percent increase in the surface area of the reservoir and by comparison the surface area of the bear creek lake would increased by four hundred and fifty percent so to imagine what and hutchinson which describes these potential impacts and includes some maps of the flood imprint i just wanted to add that there is another significant difference between chatfield expansion and what could happen in which is that about a mile of bear creek and about a half a mile of turkey creek would be inundated and these are critical riparian zones and they're really the heart and lungs of the park so i just hope that the council will encourage compromise in this process moving forward i think we probably have to be part of the solution for statewide storage increases but what is being asked o our park i hink there's just too much and thank you for your time great thank you very much just under three minutes to thank you all right madam clerk n restaurants as best i can we believe that every dollar you invest locally comes back to you many times over and we've done a lot to invest in our community we've provided some really great jobs and we've also done a lot of donations that we want to  d we do feel that it's time for the community to properly invest in us and other small businesses this first shutdown in march was terrifying but is also less scary than one now we knew federal government support was coming we employees had resources for unemployment insurance if they were to need it and we also thought i was going to last a couple of weeks this current shutdown that we're in that just started three days ago is completely different we know no federal government support is going to come we know unemployment benefits are up and we know it's going to last  y longer we do support the shutdown to slow the spread but we don't support asking small businesses to pay for the cost of that shutdown jefferson county shut our dining room down and didn't provide a plan on how to pay it my wife and i have not received any money from this all year because our priority is protecting our employees jobs none of our employees have lost any hours due to this pandemic we are paying for this out of our own pocket and we're lucky enough to be able to do that a lot of other small businesses one opportunity the city of lakewood has to support its restaurants is the cap the fees charged by delivery companies like grubhub and doordarshan these companies typically charge a base commission of fifteen to thirty percent for restaurants on top of this there's also various marketing fees to encourage more orders like free delivery which costs four to eight dollars or twenty percent off in order or a free item it is not unusual for us to pay forty to eighty percent in fees for these orders another way to look at is from the consumer perspective if you order twenty dollars in food from my restaurant from one of these companies you're going to pay twenty six dollars that's six dollars is a delivery fee and a service fee so you pay twenty cents i get fourteen and driver gets three dollars and most of this money goes to the city of san francisco the city of denver has already done this cutting us which we are two miles away from the city of denver at a competitive disadvantage other restaurants i want to ask t consider this legislation as well as others to continue to support small businesses thank you for your time thank you right anybody else madam clerk one has their hand up ok so again this will be the last call for general public comment and if you wish to speak press star nine to raise your hand and if you will or if you do then i'll ask you to press star six we'll give it a quick second and then i will close public comment ok so i want to thank both our callers and i know we'll continue to monitor the bear creek watershed and certainly myself or anybody else a polished lakewood org we can try to get you that most up to date information because i do recall something along those lines i also want to say that mister smith economic development as well as myself and some of our council members i've spoken with sean and have asked him for some other kind of ideas that he could help pass on robber and their task force is meeting this week to look at some of these ideas including the one that he mentioned as far as capping numbers and they're going to come back to council with that a s a p so we appreciate that and certainly want to make sure we encourage all of our folks to shop local as much as possible during these super challenging times going forward so with that miss hodson we have your executive report thank you i have a lot of information this evening and i'm going to start with an update on the you probably know lakewood is under the level read from by the jefferson county public health order i want to talk about what that really means as it relates to some of the operational departments here in the city of lakewood in municipal courts that means jury trials will be paused through january th two thousand and twenty one and the court will be held virtually through january and twenty one so we'll be on pause and for jury trials and court will be held virtually through january th twenty twenty one these are tough decisions to make for the court personnel but this is all airing on the side of caution and safety and health for our everyone involved lots changes in community resources first i'd like to say if you or any of our residents have already registered for a program you will be contacted directly the impacts of this new order as it relates to recreation the recreation centers are now limited to ten percent capacity or ten people indoors per room whichever is less reservations are required and they have been required for some time now so fortunately some of our regular users have become accustomed to calling in to make reservations to use whatever part of the recreation center that they're interested a reminder that masks are required in any of our recreational centers the heritage lakewood museum store will be open limited hours for holiday shopping and there are great really interesting gift opportunities at the store and we'll still be doing outdoor tours by reservation on the grounds still remain open to the public all of our park amenities remain oen so go out and check out our parks and check out a brand new parks a new place to explore sports leagues and camps have been canceled in accordance with this public health order that includes sport sports leagues pickle ball racquetball and camps they're no longer allowed so would they if you have any questions visit our web site with all the latest information on the status of all of these facilities and programs and also as you can imagine the restaurant both at the den at the end at the homestead grill and the den restaurant at fox hollow they're also closed indoor dining is closed and they're allowing outdoor dining for as long as the weather permits so now let's go to human resource unbelievable for me to express that we now have seventy employees currently out we have twenty two positive cases twenty two employees who have tested positive recovered and we have forty eight additional cases who have been out in quarantine in other words they've been exposed and because of our protocols as soon as you're considered exposed you need to go into quarantine by the end of last week we had two employees who are hospitalized and as i understand today we only have one so that's good news one was released that's seventy employees i think that's really demonstrate the spike that we're seeing statewide we're having to make some adjustments to all of our middle school buildings and here's what those look like to stay in accordance with the level five the civic center will modify its business operations plan to require phone calls from the outside door to gain entry and accomplish specific business transactions this isn't very unusual i at least personally as i go on different appointments quite often that you have to call first from the window and then they call you back when it's time for your appointment we're not suspending any functions but we'll know no longer allow for free movement throughout the complex lakewood will limit in person staffing of non critical functions to comply with the new ten percent limit set by the health order most employees now if we can we're encouraging employees to work one hundred percent remotely if they can except for those positions that have customer transaction and computer systems aren't remotely available critical government functions like police streets fleet park rangers etc will continue to work in person though supervisors have been directed to maximize the use of alternate roll call type activities to reduce interaction between the employees at their direction as i said at the direction of the courts have moved to virtual hearings until january four and finally moving forward the city leadership continues to remain in almost constant contact with our partners over in th jfk public health and we evaluate the situation as guidance evolves and as we move through the holidays so these are serious changes that we're having to make the number one goal is to keep our resident and to keep our  how about some lighter news we have a new city clerk and he's a he his name is bruce rome it looks like it's spelled r o and e so it looks like it's pronounced pronounced room but it's ro like this city by bernadette bernice had a chance to meet him and i think you give him a thumbs up right bernie he comes from the city of arvada he comes with great references very well liked and he starts bruce rome starts on december seven so when when he's in place i'll make sure to bring him to a council meeting probably all the council meetings and make sure that you get to meet him i think you'll like bruce we haven't had  i can't remember a male city clerk in our history can anyone i can't so ths is a first very good very good ok so you'll look for it i hope you can look forward to meeting bruce appreciating inclusion in our city and i want to let you know that staff has done some research and collected some data as relates to all of the other cities in the state that are members of our cml delegation and we'll be working with councilor vincent to look at what all the other cities do to see if she wants to fine tune her recommendation to you with a particular or more specific kind of recommendation based on what we learn from other cities so that's the update there a big thanks to ben for putting this information together and i hope councilor vincent that we could commit to coming back to the group once we've had a chance to review that list it sounds good thank you  slash update i was able to attend a very recent preliminary meeting with the county with open space and with the rudy road recycling center authority just last week and a gave us a presentation gave us some preliminary plans in terms of what the site will look like and i asked our open space director if he'd be willing to come to our city council meeting and make a presentation and he sid absolutely we're going to wait until they have more final numbers in terms of what those costs will be so that it isn't as speculative as it is now so i'm thinking in the next couple of months we'll make sure that tom hoagie that's the open space i'm executive director i'll make sure that he's invited to come to city council and give the presentation so we'll all have the same information good okay oh yes oh my goodness zoning concern here ok we have heard very recently actually over the last couple of weeks that there is some real concern the long colfax and that is this it's actually a real a real flood of convenience stores and gas stations coming up along colfax this has been of special interest to councilor johnston and also councilor vincent it looks like we have right now we have five convenience stores slash gas stations in the development process one under construction to insight plan review and to improve planning with no formal application there is only on colfax has allowed gas stations and other auto uses since the city was incorporated in two thousand and twelve the zoning added residential uses but it didn't remove the convenience part and the or the gas and other auto uses so  because it's in a transit content context zone that requires two storey buildings and parking behind the building so gas stations wouldn't be developed in that zone even though it's not a prohibited by its  so here's here's the thought planning staff is more than willing to put together proposals for zoning changes along colfax to really to really be able to fortify the original intent of the zoning there so that we have more diversity and  less of these real specific units or slash gas stations the question is this we've got we've got these five in the pipeline would you like us to stand this conversation like we normally would to the development dialog committee would you like us to do that and have a go through that normal process and then come back to you for first and second reading if indeed the group recommends  yes please go ahead so i think there's a couple of issues there number one is that our capacity is fairly full we have a december th meeting where we're finishing off districts and i've made promises to the committee that we are going to start on agenda items that we've been wanting to tackle for some time and i want to get on those those include things like aid use inclusionary zon all sorts of things that have been on the backburner because we've had multiple meetings on this one topic i think with the sounds like there is urgency on this there i'm i'm comfortable with from a committee standpoint that at you know staff has a plan they should bring that back to this full body and we don't need it to linger in the development dialog committee as much as i would normally a t our authority here i think that i think in this case we've got a lot a lot of things we're doing on that side that a lot of people on this panel have been working on i want to continue with that work but i think we trust staff to  have a pulse on what's happening you've identified councilors johnson councilor vincent i'm sure other councilors have also been in touch on this so i think you guys bring us something back and let's just do it to the full council  and there is a sense of urgency here because if we can move this forward then we can that'll reduce the amount of these of these projects that are actually built staff is in agreement that this is probably a good way to go so if it's ok with you and if we can not engage in the development dialog but go ahead and work something up and try to for lack of a better term maybe fast track this it'll still be brought in they'll still be here and they'll still be a chance for a public to hear these changes what's being recommended and certainly give their opinions but we'll do that outside of the development dialog conversation so that we can get it done in haste is that mayor can you help with this much of a conversation right now councilor labure yeah i don't try to frame this in a way that doesn't lead to a long conversation but i guess maybe if there are we can look at sort of all the options that might be available to us that would help rein in these that maybe aren't just zoning because it seems to me that there might be an opportunity to make like a special use per man or something like that that might be a little simpler and  require less meetings like the planning commission and all that so just a suggestion might look at all options thanks thank you and i would encourage council members especially those being affected in this area if you do have ideas like that please get those to miss hodson and her team so they can start evaluating if those are things that we can do and knowing that we have a we want to turn this around pretty  mary and now that we've got the thumbs i'll be working with our planning director right away tomorrow we'll get we'll get this started so we'll have information for you thank you for that  finally what you've all been waiting for i have an announcement is this the last thing this is announcement did you know that lakewood has been labeled as number ten is santa fe new mexico number nine is roseville california number eight is bridgewater new jersey number seven is asheville north carolina and number six is none other than lakewood colorado and does anyone care what the top five hour ok i'll tell you so number five is boise idaho number four is franklin tennessee number three is lower merion pennsylvania not upper merion lower merion pennsylvania number two is largo florida and number one is madison wisconsin but this is pretty good that lakewood is six and best place to retire and it and we'll make sre the write up and the scoring how they came to this decision and why is us on our website because this is pretty cool and it was kind of scientist the way they came to nineteen pandemic two to section one point twenty seven of the lakewood civil code originally declared by proclamation of the lakewood city manager mach th two thousand and twenty extended by majority vote and a second any questions to the to the extension or comments i would just say one thing and i think we got to the point where we thought maybe we were able to look at not continuing this and as we've all sen that's just not the case and the state legislature is being called back i believe net week and again there might be some emergency funding as well as we really hope that the federal government can get some dollars back to us t get back out to the community one unfortunate thing that has not happened is there has not been a will of the federal leadership to take on either furtherance of the stimulus but the key one of the key things for us was an extension of spending those dollars and so we will get all of ours out but even if there were some new ones that came in that would have to be a big part of that is us getting them to extend the days to get those out beyond the first year  without any anything else to go on this one motion in a second please cast your  and that passes ten i's and zero nays the nay being councilor springsteen ok next up is the use of the consent agenda or the consent agenda the use of the consent gender has been made to explain council action  contains both resolutions and first reading ordinances tonight there is one resolution so members of the public have an opportunity in a moment to comment on that proposed resolution first reading a pit ordinances appear on the agenda only for the purpose of setting  future public hearing dates and ordering the newspaper publication of the proposed ordinance no public comments will be heard this evening on first reading ordinances the public will have the opportunity to comment on the proposed ordinance during a scheduled public hearings on the dates set tonight by city council any council members may request an item on the consent agenda be removed for separate discussion and action under general business nobody has indicated that they want to do that so i will ask the clerk to please read this short consent agenda tonight a supplemental appropriation to this to the two thousand and twenty city of lakewood annual budget the amount of sixty thousand dollars in authorizing the expenditure grant funds from the peace officers standard and training board on behalf of the rooney valley law for the construction of a sidewalk along south along the south side of st avenue from garrison street to creighton middle school and authorized rising negotiations with property owners acceptance of conveyance instruments and subject to furthe changes item twelve accepting minutes of the included in this is there anybody who wishes to speak to the resolution the changing of property please raise your hand by pressing star six  the date included in the ordinance for the adoption of resolutions all of which are included in the consent agenda items introduced into the record by the city second all right we have a motion a second any discussion or and that consent agenda passes ten as one nays one nay sorry my name being councilor springsteen  to we'll be making a motion if approved to postpone until december th mayor pro tem if you please make that motion okay passes eleven i's zero nays so now before i ask the clerk to read an item fourteen this is resolution twenty tony dash forty six we will have public comment available for this and then if we get into anything other than comments by counsel as to the acceptance or not of this that'll be fine but if we're gonna get into questions we're gonna go into an executive session as this has to do with to public comment we have received i think four comments in support the lakewood speaks as well as a letter of support that was presented on behalf of the two homeowners organizations that are party to this and nobody on line has their hand up but i will open public comment there and if you'd like to speak please press star six to raise your hand  i'll close public comment so counsel are there going to be questions pertaining to this and i think if so we might go into executive session maybe after we go through the agenda and then we can come back into the meeting after to finalize this so i will to our panelists i do not see any hands up so i will ask mayor pro tem for a motion avenue ok i will know open the public hearing if you wish to speak please press star nine to raise your hand and then star six on mute give it a quick  to try to multitask all right i move the adoption resolution twenty twenty dash forty seven there is a motion a second effective and may proceed without allocations under this these provisions in chapter in paragraph three the third whereas and the seventh for as we list eight hundred and forty unit as a matter of housekeeping and considering the resolution we just passed that would add two hundred two more units so i suggest as a matter of housekeeping  where twenty twenty point eight refers to eight hundred and forty growling units in each place we make that one thousand forty two by adding the ones with just after thank you councilor and i i actually had a similar comment along those lines the proposal in the in the resolution in the proposed resolution language as it pertains to section three remain need to adjust some of that just to be we're on what the intent would be and it's my understanding from the resolution that we just passed that while this project specifically does not require allocate the number of permits in this case and the units would come off the number that is available in subsequent years in the same method that we did for the other authorities a continued project that i think needs to be spelled out a bit more clearly as it pertains to this project so if it's two hundred and two we reflect that at two hundred and two is going to come off in subs whether that be two thousand and twenty two or two thousand and twenty one or some combination of the two especially since this council in two months or in january at some point we'll be determining the number of allocation that are going to be available for the coming year i think that the way that it's i mean the resolution as it's proposed that that language i think gets to the heart of including this project but i think what we need to make clear in language of that amended resolution is that what we're going to do with the units that are being gobbled up by this so i think it needs to be clearer that we intend to do what we did with the other projects and reduce by two hundred to deduct that number from the future year availability even though that project doesn't need specific allocations those number of units do need to come down in subsequent years that we're honoring the one percent of the gro so to that point councilor abel and mayor pro tem skilling do want to have a quick conference committee although we don't have a chance to really recess for that but is that something you guys want to try to articulate right now to get some verbiage brought forth for a motion or mister cox do you have anything that you would like to add to this conversation  i have nothing that at this point counsel of course can recess for this sort of purpose who've done it in the past but i'm not sure how much how much time group thinks you might  need yeah and this one's a little bit different because when we recessed in the past two people can go work together here you'll still be the whole body counselor able your hand is up maybe you can help get us to  change the number eight forty two one thousand forty two so whichever way we go with it does long is the end is the end result is the same i'm ok with that so if counsel or skilling yeah i think i would defer to actually mister cox i think what we're saying all the same things we want to make sure that this project corresponds with the same intent of the original twenty twenty dash eight resolution we passed in january which was any of these projects now this is one of those that is part of the authority to continue that even though it doesn't need specific  does draw whether the two hundred and two that does draw down availability for subsequent years that just needs to be made clear in a resolution i trust with mister cox and his folks can certainly do a better job than we can on the as something that we may need to add in that resolution just to make clear that this is being treated the same way if that makes sense i think we're all saying the same thing and i think it would be better if legal had a chance to draft that gordon's with what we're talking about  kelso why don't you you had your hand up why don't you go ahead and then what we can do is remove withdraw the motion in the second give mister cox an opportunity we could move on to the next ordinance which is the judge's salary and come back to this changed the number eight forty one thousand forty two i would make that  franks i just had one clarifying question i haven't been able to find the ordinance online at this point to read that but is then that those numbers do they come off equal in twenty twenty one in twenty twenty two is it a i guess helped me understand what we're reducing so two hundred and two is it reduced in a single year or is it going to be reduced to two years those years thank you i thought that's what i want to make see if we if it was being spread one hundred and one against twenty twenty one allocations and one hundred and one against twenty twenty two allocations that would work and i not inter decreasing twenty twenty allocations by one third of the eight hundred and forty dwelling units noted above now if we stop there this is where councilor cable is talking about raising that up by the two hundred and two dwelling units and then the sentence continues with further intend to reduce the twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two allocations in a comparable manner i think th whether you do it that way if you just raise that that's fine you also could just include a section since we're amending this particular resolution that i just read you could just say that the jewel property here the white bands farm the dwelling units are going to be reduced in the twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two allocations in a comparable manner yes it really is w d twenty twenty dash eight with that idea in mind which is the same thing the skilling i'm sorry you you proposed a little bit of explanation that i think together with the numbers might be worthwhile so that's someone looking at this a little bit down the road  would have a better understanding of how we got to that change rather than just the numbers changing if the numbers have changed we do that but i do think that it would be more clear if we could provide a little bit of  explanation in one or two sentences so why don't we go ahead and we motion a second to change the numbers so why don't we do tht and then secondarily we can work on a little but a language that can be proposed to coincide with would that be acceptable and then and then once that is passed then we can do just motion to accept it as amended otherwise we have to withdraw now we're going to have a unique motion that has some numbers and some explanation hearing o ordinance twenty twenty dash twenty seven if you wish to speak please press star nine to raise your hand right nobody raise their hand so i'll now close public comment and i'll turn it over to councilor franks who is the chair of this committee if you want to give us a summary then also if you'd like to make the motion thank you he after we got that information he requested that twenty twenty judges salary survey data and certainly appreciate him are requesting that and so we wanted to also acknowledge and judge savic who to attend the meeting and i want to thank them for all the good questions and the good feedback and ultimately we came to a great spot and made the recommendation that you see in front of you and so i will go ahead and move scroll back to where i need to be here i moved for the adoption of ordinance oh twenty twenty is going i would just like to say that in a time of budget issues and when we are hearing repeatedly small businesses that are closing people that are losing their jobs i am concerned about the public message when we actually give two percent salary increases at this particular time does that say that that should be totally eliminate it in the future no i understand the cost of living and raises are important but we've got some very serious financial realities that we need to be looking at and when the only people that are actually getting increases in salary are within the government let's all understand some of many of the people in our community that are suffering and so i'd like to at least  understanding that what the perception of this is thank you oh thank there paul i certainly wanted to make sure that councilor johnson was aware that at that absolutely was at the heart of the discussion we had that a very frank discussion with all of the members we talked about the historical  budgetary setting and what other staff had been given so i don't want to have the community at all be misled on this but the committee certainly discussed all thse points we discussed what other staff was getting how that budget process worked for year two thousand and twenty and what that budget process would look like for two thousand and twenty one so this was in my view a fair and just outcome to ensure that we treated everybody everybody increase so had i think been the other way around i would have voted the opposite way in this case so i just want to clarify that that's i think that's that's a valid approach i typically want to say more in terms of a narrative description but with travis's point is is it's out there and it's going to be reflected in the action you're obligated to take in january with reread to the record item fifteen resolution twenty twenty dash forty seven item fifteen resolution twenty twenty dash forty seven amending resolution twenty twenty dash eight and granting a one option could be we make the numbers adjustment that councilor ables suggested that way it makes sense when you read it and then we could also add to section one b of the current section three and at the end of that sy those two hundred and two units which brings the total of authority to continue to a total of one thousand forty two will be deducted from the and twenty one and twenty twenty two allocations in a comparable manner in that way which is exactly consistent with all the warehouses and all that other stuff i took the language directly from that so that would spell it out it would increase the numbers like what charlie sang but it would also kind of spell out a little bit more in the section three that's proposed in our resolution forty seven tonight so if i read in the first resolute and then we can talk about the amendment is that acceptable i move for the adoption of resolution twenty twenty dash forty seven second skilling i propose the following amendment that within resolution if it would be an amendment to the current resolution that where it purports to amend twenty twenty dash eight nos in the whereas and any other recitals or sections that refer to eight hundred and forty units be adjusted to one thousand forty two units and furthermore i would add to the proposed or to section one b of the current or of the current resolution amending section three twenty twenty dash eight to include a sentence at the end of the proposed paragraph states those two hundred and two units which brings the total of authority to continue to a total of one thousand forty two will be deducted from the available twenty twenty on and twenty twenty two allocations in a comparable man all right eleven i's zero names now please the fuel restate the resolution as amended i move for the adoption of resolution twenty twenty dash forty seven we have a motion a second discussion or questions related to the main motion on the floor all right seeing them and that passes eleven eyes zero nine thank you very very much council and councilors as well as community and property owners and all those who have been involved in this challenging  situation i think tonight we moved quite a bit in trying to bring the community back together and move forward so thank you all certainly to miss hodson and her team as well who were a big part of this trying to move this along much appreciated all right general business i have two quick things one is just want to check and we don't we don't particularly need to hash this out tonight but if you want to send me an email as we look towards the retreat and yes most likely it's going to be virtual and i heard loud and clear that you don't want to have multiple meetings just one is all that you would like to have would you be also open to trying to do it during the week and pick a weekday that we could start a little bit earlier certainly than and i know that might be tough but we're close on a weekend but it's still challenging for some folks so if you just want to reach out and let me know if the weekday is possible and which day of the week would work for you ok and then the second one that i have is just going back we really have the voice of advocacy on our side and it's really important that your elected officials hear from you  congressmen and both of our senators need to hear and really understand we are in a critical critical time and situate and you heard in the voice of our one of our business owners tonight and he is just one of thousands that are affected right now with really no recourse as we are not a stimulus type of government we can't we can't print money and  please take take that to heart if you can reach out if you think of stuff that we can i'm trying to sign on to letters to the governor and to our delegation you've seen some of those but if you do have relations ships please reach out and try to encourage them to do to do something moving forward it's all that i have for general business anybody else have anything on general business ok we will go with reports and i' start with ward three today and go three four or five one two or three thank you mayor just a couple of quick points one we are not going to have our  three virtual town hall it's normally scheduled for this saturday due to the close proximity to the holiday to thanksgiving so tht has been canceled secondly i would like to just thank all of the parties know it's been difficult the parties all the parties have put a lot of time and effort into this settlement and you know in the in the legal community we have a saying that there  that i do want to say that i am a little concerned that they have had to go this far in it really concerns me that our citizens have to file a suit against their city in order to get relief on something like this and they had to hire counsel and they spent a lot a lot of money to get to this point and that is of concern to me and i'd like to see us maybe take a look at some point how did we get here what can extensive time and money that they had to go through just to just to get the right thing done and so we really really need to work hard it's a travesty i i just wanted to reort that i've set up a stakeholders meeting between grassroots law project and representative herrod regarding the issue  injection of citizens who have police encounters it's set for december st and includes many distinguished doctors and activists who have been horrified by the  disproportionately used on people of color no doubt about that this came up at the last meeting and he said i was being misleading or making statements not based in fact in and i just want to say that that's not true i realize that first responders have very difficult jobs especially partially right now in these trying time them i know we're all very thankful for them i am but i saying that there are problems that need to be addressed and one of those is in lakewood lakewood police may not actually inject people with condamine but they certainly have undue influence in situations where it's used and west metro fire may not have killed anyone yet with the use of forced injection as far as we know but they certainly have come close and in fact i i know a situation where there was a close call in the past few weeks ketamine leads to complications and almost twenty percent of uses it's been used on average every day and a half in our part of the city and according to the doctor who came up with the idea excited  it should not be used more tan one time a year every two hundred fifty thousand people and so i'm just we're on coming from and i know that people have  displeasure that i bring this up every week but until i get somewhere with this and somebody is willing to talk to me about it i have to because i don't want to see another and i can't really comprehend why i'm being villainize for wanting to save lives in that regard a lot of people are still buried there was just a protest again on meeting on december ten and that will be ah we're hoping to have our third meeting on districts and recommend some possible legislative actions to this body relating districts and that is six to eight just a quick note we will have our virtual work meeting on december th we won't have another meeting between now and then so that's what i were wanting to remind everybody it's going to be an interactive meeting where we're going to have kind of two topics number one we want to talk about what charities people support and talk about how they support them and maybe learn about some new ones and then we also are going to be asking about priorities we're going to go over our priorities previously discussed and talk with people about if they feel like there's still as important as they were a year ago so that's what we're going to be doing a reminder we'll be going out next week white figments farm the whole process there the amount of money that was spent by citizens and the amount of time is great concerns economic or budget department will be coming and talking about the budget i'm only telling you that now because next monday we do not have a council meeting so wanted to get that out there and also i would masks the social distancing washing of your hands at this point i'm so sorry i didn't have the insight to buy stocks and bonds  with all that hand washing we're doing but there's also positive news in that there are mild cases and i am unbelievably grateful t we now can release two doses of vaccine or somebody else basically and i guess in closing i would just like to say this is an unusual thanksgiving for all of us but as i  world and in my life and the people that i know that i work with my amount of gratitude frankly for what i have is enormous and even though all of us are stretched to the we there is a great deal for us to really look and see how lucky we are and happy thanksgiving to all of you however you celebrate it walton i will be alone this year i think most people are and just grateful that i have him my best buddy thank you or to  like newspaper and in the back with your was an article about the forty w grants that they got from aarp which i think was the largest one in the nation and there was also kind of an interview or back and forth with our own alexis moore so i thought that was that was really nice she did it she always does a lovely job but she did a nice nice job on that too and we were recognized nationally  so i just advocate that you know as you guys have a favorite charities to go ahead and do that sign up and we will not be having a december twelve meeting that's you i just want to make a couple of comments i want to first just thank everybody who came to our last word we had a great board meeting good turnout we're not having one in december councilor benton said we plan on having a robust one new year in january so hope commandment earlier today so hopefully we'll see more from that and just want to thank everybody who's involved and i want the citizens who are e mailing us suggestions and ideas regarding you knw how to assist their businesses and things like that because you know i think a lot of people reach out to us think that maybe we've heard of these ideas that we are already doing certain things in some cases we are but a lot of times you know we get ideas from people reaching out expressing their thanks all right so a couple things you know the toughest one of the toughest things we deal with is land use and you certainly never want to be in a situation where you are you know certainly there's neighbors and there's also landowners right there's a person whose family bought that restaurant wanted to continue it on and do wonderful things as that tradition was and unfortunately that model didn't work and so you know it's never easy and just want to again echo my thanks to  involved who worked harding and did come to the table to try to make some meaningful change in the tri all that you can and not go to court and inevitably sometime you do and i can tell you in my ten years very few and far between so i'm  grateful for that i think one thing is we certainly always want to support counsel's passions and people are leaders in different ways and i don't think anybody has has not  supported ay any of the issues that the council's working on i will say i did and had to clarify after the last meeting when a comment was made that our police and our fire department continue to kill people and so that is why i engage to clarify that that is not happening with the lakewood police department in west metro fire and i also encouraged council and the community to reach out to west metro they've been wonderful to take the time to reach you know to talk to council members to share their policies to talk about what goes on and to talk about other things that they used to use prior to ketamine for instance or the different things along those so there's a lot more to it in that regard to take the time if you're really interested and to engage i have a terrible story to share that aired last night on nine news regarding lakewood fox hollow golf course and the birds that continue to terrorize people's burritos in their carts it looks like it was a story they actually shot pre pandemic but it aired last night and it was pretty funny and if you've ever been at fox hollow and you've come back to your car n there's either been your burrito taken or maybe a little bird surprise left on your seat that was what the story was about so it brought a little bit of humor and certainly it was a real positive light shined on on some of the employees out there at fox hollow who have a good time with trying to deal with that so check it out on nine news last night then i would just leave you with with the gratitude of what this week is and challenging week challenging year for so many thanksgiving was born out of challenging times and when people came together to give thanks after getting through and we're going to get through this and continue to work together to make sure and the road is not going to be easy the road ahead not optimistic that it's going to be amazing but we'll get through it and i'm proud of this council and to the question raised earlier you know there's a lot of issues that we've really put on the backburner and that's one of the things that i think we need to get going retreat sooner than later to really look at what we need to start getting back on our agendas because there is a lot of stuff sitting there whether it's colfax or the union quarter plan there was some thirty five p m have a nice thanksgiving