really great i'm thankful to all men to god for the operation and the quality of life that it has given me since the operation so i'm feeling one hundred percent better than operation i was in very bad shape as you may have heard i had seen the implantation for prostate cancer we started with forty scenes and it seemed to do the job and then the cancer came back so they put one hundred eighty more which is two hundred twenty radiated seeds and i went on a world tour right afterwards but over time the sea ice burned into the rectum burned in to the read you read through and there was a communication a a hole that communicated the colon with the retha and so we had an operation in two thousand that was to patch  unfortunately in four months we tested and it held for a while and then it broke and then urine was coming from the anal channel and so since that time it's been seven years now i have had a problem with urine coming from the wrong place and finally i wanted to call and ask a fee to make sure that my colon was ok and they found an ulcer in the area of the rectum and as long as urine was passing it it would never heal which meant that i would have to have another operation and then it got so deep that what was to come from the colon was coming from the penis and what was to come from the penis was coming through the anal channel and so i was in constant constant pain and i was dying and it got so bad some of my natural path physicians told me they did they didn't want me to take the operation because it was horrific because it was a complete pelvic exam a ration where everything in the pelvis would be taken out and my medical doctor said if i didn't take the operation i would surely die so i was like the bible's halting between two opinions so i went to pray and i said to god i said father i am your serv and what ever i want you to force me in the direction that you want me to go that is in harmony with your will and within ten hours i went to the bathroom to push out some of this foreign matter from the pains in the stitch in the side came and blood began rushing from the anus and i lost about four units of blood right no no no not in the bathroom i lost maybe a unit half a unit in the bathroom but on the way to the hospital and then in the hospital i was vomiting but nothing was coming up and pushing out blood at the same time so they had to put the bed in trindle and berg which is the head down in the foot up so that the remaining blood could be in the cavities and in the brain and in the heart so i could remain alive so they put me in the i c u and and then i went into what they call a relation where the heartbeat began to be did one hundred forty one hundred eighty beats per minute and then my daughter became as a nurse became very concerned and they called the family around me and that didn't stop for thirteen hours and then when they stabilized me at last then they sent me to northwestern university hospital from st anthony's hospital in michigan city and that's where i remained for five weeks and then i came after four weeks after the operation and then had the the speech six weeks after the operation i'm sitting here s we still didn't know and i didn't even i my doctors told me that if i didn't get the operation i was melting down losing weight constantly and in tremendous pain but they told me i would die and i didn't want the operation but god forced it on me and i'm so grateful that he did did you ever say during this why me  oh i know or oh no never because there's no one who comes to go on an easy road if you tried jesus and mohammed and moses and the prophets the way he tried them and they were his most honored servant then who am i that i should not suffer some misfortune even though i am a servant of god that's how you would test the fiber of the servants faith so when jesus went to the cross he never broke his faith with god he knew that god would deliver him and i somehow never thought that it was time for me to die although that i did i can't say i didn't think it but i didn't believe that it was my time though i thought it that was my next question did you think that you're going to do that you reconcile yourself to the fact that maybe this is a well you always are countries when you get to be seventy three in a few months or be seventy four by the grace of god you're always concerned about your mortality so i was trying to set things in place inside the nation in case i passed away but i never deeply thought that i was going to die believe that god was going to deliver me you say the honorable elijah muhammad is the leader and i'm functioning every day on the guidance and the inspiration that he gave me one of the things that eliza mohammed told me when odd mohammed was leaving he pressed in his hand a piece of paper and when his teacher left he looked at the paper and it was the twenty third psalm the lord is m shepherd i shall not want if god becomes your shepherd you don't need a leader you already have one so when we sit at the table a council they head of the was is and will be the honorable elijah muhammad and all i am concerned about is whoever sits in the seat you infused with the ideas of mohammed and will you carry out those ideas but i don't have a successor quote unquote picked i'll leave that to god and i think i'll be around a little while so i have time to look at everybody quite well are you looking for predecessors at an active search of yours i think any person in leadership is always concerned about what will be after him the koran which is the book of scripture of the muslims ask the question where you present when death visited jacob of course you were present i was in prison where god was present so he revealed the the context of jacob's death and he called his sons to his bedside and he asked them what will you serve after me in the sunset we will serve the god of abraham isaac and jacob one seeing knew that they were going to follow in his pad he closed his eyes for his eternal sleep i need to know that this is not the fiefdom of a charismatic brother who knows that he will pass away and i need to know that those around me are infused with the love of mohammed the love of his idea the love of the and want to see the growth and development of the nation beyond where the minister leaves it and i believe i have a group like that around me ugh i'm oh no i can't call a name because i'm not locked in on any one name that's why i put a council together you know the mormons you have never probably interviewed the leader of the moment nobody knows who years and they may know is name but he is a part of a group that carry out the principles of the founder of the mormon church i am hoping that these will carry out the principles that elijah mohammed a minister taught so you won't need any charismatic individual the group that is leading infused with those principles wrapping their lives around those principles will lead the nation in the proper direction some speculate it's going to be i can't say that because this is not a father son thing it could be but i won't say that because a son maybe your son of the blood doesn't have to be your son of the spirit and that's why in the muslim world the father gives something to the son but not in this well in our world in our world it could be a son but it doesn't have me that's not only his physical blood but also born of his father's spirit and he is assisting you because there was no rest but no more or all no this is another son this is and there of course there's differences between the man and myself but we get along we're brothers you spoke of unity with the between christians between muslims did you are so many a man as we because of course he sent greetings to the convention that we may be two communities but we are under one god that is my brother we grew up together we have differences of opinion but those differences of opinion by the grace of god will never cause us to do to each other what we see shia and sunni doing to each other in iraq do you ever see the two groups together this you have any regrets with when it comes to what happened after the death of the lodge in my home and how the two groups separated do you have any regrets when it comes to anything well that's always painful when groups that were one split after the death of a great leader or the passing of a great leader but people have to follow the drama that they hear and i've always heard elijah mohammed as the drummer that i wanted to dance to his beat and if the other was not the beat of  then i couldn't continue in that chorus in that line so as i left the memoir at the dean mohammed and never wanted to be in opposition to the point where we fight one another but i'm in love with the father and i believe in the correctness of the father's vision and so i decided to try to rebuild the work of the father because i didn't believe that a man so great should be written out of history you talk about walking to the beat of your own drum and hearing your own music your musician yet you gave it up yes to join  the bible puts it like this jesus speaking if any man would be my disciple he must first deny himself pick up his cross in follow me peter was fishing and when he met jesus jesus told him leave the net alone come follow me and i'll make you a fisher of men i was a musician i drew people but i drew people from the spirit of entertainment with the beauty of my song on my dance on my violin but now i have a chance to draw people to the beauty of a word that doesn't entertain transforms human life and that's so much greater to me than music but now god has given me that my music as my life comes near to a close so i'm working on an album now that hopefully will be released the end of this year that's what i hear so your point violence yes i'm playing violin are you singing i can't dance on the album the course of men's lives and it comes from the movie troy but it really is a takeoff on the life of the master when jesus was about to go he gave his disciples two things that they should use in remembrance of him one was the bread and one was the wine and when prophet mohammed left again his followers two things that they should look at in remembrance of him and in doing so they would never deviate from his path one was the quote and the other was the way he lived the book this song from choice is called remember me and i wanted people to think of their brother and you always think of person more when they're gone i always thought that luther would be with us and luther's gone when i hear is name you know chills come over i want to hear more of luther james brown is  gone bradley's gone and you know the person you love the person but you don't think of the person every day and then all of a sudden you hear that god well jesus knew he was going mohamed yes the lyrics remember i will always be there as long as you keep me in your remembrance for i am that bright star that in words gives you lie but it fails into the rising sun and as long as you can remember the work that i have done then i will never die that's not perfectly quoting the words but that's the sentiment and that really is about jesus because he's called the bright and morning star and as long as we remember the great ones the sacrifices that they make then they live even though their flesh is rotting in i would hope that i have done something in life to serve god and to serve my people and to serve humanity that would be remembered and if it pleases god when my death puts a period to my testament then the historians if i'm worthy will come and gather the bits and pieces of my life and assign me my place in history if i deserve one you really don't get your reward while you live most of our great one they died they had audiences that love them but it was after their death that history corrected the wicke those who fear them and hated them and gave them a beautiful place in black history and in world history so here's your chance there are a lot of people who have a lot of opinions about you not all p and i'm sure some of them who the some of the opinions and some of what you've heard probably hurt you deeply here's your chance to correct it what do you think people say that you're in it so much i have never been an from the depths of my heart i know that i have never hated the jewish people and for me to hate a jewish person because of their faith tradition would make me less than a muslim less than a right as person and would make me a bigot and a wicked person but i am critical of jewish behavior in relationship to black people in relationship to the palestinians i'm critical of america's behavior and i'm critical of my own people's behavior but it doesn't mean i'm anti american are anti black or anti semitic but the jewish people are so very sensitive after the holocaust and it seems as though anyone that criticizes from a well meaning perspective not out of hate but out of hope to see change in behavior change in strategy change in relationship jimmy carter is no anti semite he wrote a book hoping to contribute to the dialogue in america concerning the suffering of the palestinian people yet he was called an anti semite and that is wrong and that is what produces more and more dislike of those voices in the jewish community who cry wolf every time somebody says something that's critical to you can you understand the words or why they might sting some people the words you say about about jewish people or that have been i have never said words about the jewish religion or about the jewish people that i can't  with truth that's why a dialogue is so important i have been waiting for a dialogue for twenty i think maybe twenty five years now from nineteen eighty four twenty two years from from the jewish people have sat with rabbis they've visited me in my home have visited with them in their homes but the things that they of me are not things that i can do you want me to apologize but you don't want to face me in a dialogue and show me where i'm wrong i'm not a proud m if you show me where i'm wrong i'll go before the world where i made a statement and not only apologize but i will see your forgiveness in a repentant spirit that's better than what america has done that's better than what jewish people have done in their pot in the hearo of the transatlantic slave trade we've never gotten an apology we've never gotten an apology from the united states government nobody wants to apologize to black people and repent of their action and do something in a tone meant and when the government even tries something like affirmative action it gets such a backlash from the white community oh you're favoring them but you've set a whole people not now what do you want to do to make up for the wrong of four hundred years injustice that have less left us in a savage state and the honorable elijah muhammad taught us that a savage is a person that has lost the knowledge of self and is living the life of the beast and when you look in the black community and you look at the black on black crime you look at the hatred exhibited back black people for their own people something that never existed even in the colorless days of slavery something has been done to us that must be repaid and that's the work of the honorable elijah mohammed and that's my work it's a work of repair and the jewish people can be such a great help in that effort if they would remember yes you nation why not have a part in our lives why not work together with those who want to repair the damage it's so much better if we work together but you sure what would you have people do you said dialogue you feel that you have been misunderstood is that am i hearing you correctly absolutely you know there are those who have a vested interest in coloring me this way they raise money off me this is a vial and the semi is anti white is anti american he isn't again but when you come in my presence when they come in tation my words of condemnation of our nation that has done us wrong that doesn't mean i don't love the country in which i was born but i want to see change change for the better of america change for the better for my people do you ever think of and you know what to send out a different way maybe i didn't say that the way that people would understand it yes yes of course i could have said it in a much better way but when you i came to national and international public attention i was in a battle people were calling me the new black heckler i have never one hair from the ad brow produce person i trade with jewish stores right now i if i can't find something that is a liar i go to the cautious store to buy the food so please if i will and this medic if i hated the jewish people i was all the knives or boycotts against their businesses you wouldn't see a muslim sporting a swastika on a jewish synagogue because our koran for beards us and even advises us if we see someone doing that to a church or a senate gong or a christ or that we should stop them from doing so i did planted all the good even bringing this up but since we're talking about it i don't want to this to drag on but again you said you could have said you could have something better but times were different it was a different time exactly i don't know whether you're married but if you are not if you have a lady friend sometimes you might get in another game and in the heat of the argument you're speaking the truth that you believe but the passion that comes in the heat of have you met can sometimes distort the beauty of what you're trying to say to get that person to change some behaviors that is still affecting you so here i am now twenty two years later i'm not locked in the heat of somebody calling me an anti semite a black  then members of the jewish community when i spoke in los angeles when i spoke in new york marching around madison square garden who do you want facts come on how do you want him dead how should i respond to that climate now is not the same as it was in eighty three in eighty four when jesse jackson took the status quo in terms of the away the flesh you can wash it easily disease doesn't set up in it so it was advised in the jewish law and in the muslim law at the male child should be circumcised wh at about the circumcision of the ha if the heart is disease with hatred if the heart is disease with bigotry if the hobby is disease with racism even a pillow word coming through a heart like that will get contaminated by the bitterness of the moment my words were contaminated by the bitterness of that moment of hostility while i was defending myself against people prayed for me rabbis prayed for me so how then could i come out from an experience like that where hindus prayed buddhists prayed jews pre muslims p christian the prayer warriors in the church went to work to see that god would bring me back that fast that they prayed how could i come out of an experience like that and not feel commitment to those who prayed for me so the message of jesus the nationalistic and its inception became universal in its application the same with the prophet it's the same with farrakhan started specifically with black people and that is my focus but there is no way coming out of the experience that i have just come through that my message should be anything but a universal message that touches black brown red yellow and white people of all religious faiths all ethnicities all racial identities with truths coming from a house of love mercy and compassion is there anything you're sorry for when it comes to that home the only thing i am sorry for is the way it was taken and the way it was abused and no matter how often i defend my statement and correct the view today twenty two years later once they all but he is the man that called him agree and they don't say what i actually said he called judaism a governor elect and they don't say what i actually said and no matter how i try to fella but i'm coming out of jail i actually read the entire quote of what you said and i think what you referred to was hitler's army and the way for germany and not you said you said what he did to the jews was awful it was wicked and i said don't compare me with your wicked killers and i've been over the nation of islam now for thirty years you don't have any record of the minister beating somebody having his brothers that love him go out and hurt somebody black white or in between that's not our way and i would hope that that can be corrected and any jewish person listening to this i am anxious to sit with you to dialogue with you and if you can show me around you don't have to ask me to apologize out apologize right then and go before the world and beg your forg so let's talk about your speech i saw your speech and i said this man is not sick he has not been he's been fooling all of them excuse me for  and my best friend who is my wife she looked at the blood rushing out of me and she too thought for a minute maybe i wouldn't make it i was truly at this door but the doctors who were like god's angels in the way they did and the stare of the doctor and the nurses and the certified nurses assistant they were own like god's angels the way they cared for me at northwestern university at st anthony's hospital in michigan city i could not have asked for better care and of course my daughter who was with me twenty four seven but my doctors minister i have watched you for four weeks since the operation and said your operation was so  only operation more difficult is a liver transplant i don't know what it takes to do a liver transplant the doctor said i've been looking at you for four weeks and i would never say that the operation was a success even though for all practical purposes it was a great success but there are always glitches and as a doctor i'm looking for the glitches did he have an infection a fever is there bleeding there we would have to go back in he said but i've watched you for four weeks and i don't use this language but your recovery is nothing short of miraculous and so when people look at me and say i wonder what was he faking was he really ill yes i really really was but to all who are ill never break your faith with god by whatever name you call him because in the final analysis he is the master of life and death and if it's not my time if he doesn't want to bring me in he wants me to continue to work then he brought me back and some are very happy and unfortunately some may be a little disappointed that they didn't have a f attend but tell them to be patient vanity and when people are so concerned about how history will view them they do things to enhance a legacy i don't think like that but i am an evolving human being i can't remain the same nothing in life remains the same once a thing becomes stagnant and there is no change going forward then there's change going backward and this is what's wrong with the educational system in america it is not evolving to keep pace with the evolving mind of the children still the methodology in the psychology is of no value of are we seeing a softer you don't think we're seeing a softer minister after you're going out of this or is it just a more evolved or different person because  am a more involved individual but you are seeing a side of me that was always there but as i said earlier you caught me media caught me in a time of conflict nobody goes into a conflict mild mannered clark kent had to change his so into superman before he went into conflict the minister had to change his mild mannered way because he's a warrior i'm trying to defend myself i don't have anybody to defend me so i tried to defend myself right in your speech you talked about the war yes i did talk about president lied to the american people then he knew he was lying they twisted intelligence to make intelligence fit a policy they had already formed they deceived the congress so that the congress would vote to give him the power to go to war that's a high crime and i have big b s black and brown and and asian and poor white are dying because of a lie that this man told and the whole world now that was a friend of america after nine eleven has now turned on america and even america's friends in europe are displeased with president bush and the imperialist policy of the neoconservatives and so i say there's a window of opportunity for america now but we cannot stand two more years of this man happen i think if you cannot impeach him and of course to impeach him and to leave cheney is to leave his boss of one of those who is then part of the architect of the policy for a new american century of the project for a new american century which is the neo conservative policy of an imperialist america an america that if we thank you are an enemy we don't have to wait until you make an aggressive move that any country's taken against another country well you know this democracy is modeled after rome but when rome became an imperial power they had to choose between being an imperial tyrant a republic and a democracy and when you have these wicked kind of rules collect and others like that then wrong became tyrannical then you need greater and greater military power to enforce your democracy what america's doing is bringing democracy at the point of a gun and at the point of a gun she wants to make another country democratic but we're losing democracy at home this is a sickness and i'm sorry we need a regime change in america as the whole kit and caboodle excuse that expression i don't know where i got that one from but bush needs to go cheney needs to go congolese of rice needs to go that whole administration needs to go and the democrats have a chance to obey the directive of the people that voted in november for change and they are weak in doing it and they will pay a price in two thousand and eight why you say because we are at the door of it i mean where is it now armageddon as the honorable elijah muhammad thomas begins with truth clashing with falshood that's what's creating the division the masses of the people are beginning to rise and only thing that makes the masses rise is the presence of truth and that's why jesus was hated not because he just brought a new kingdom he was hated because the poor heard him gladly the farrakhan and when the poor listen to farrakhan whether they are poor why they are poor black it will produce a change in the way they think our government is wrong and it needs to change and if it will not change then we need to get rid of it and put in a government that will guarantee the american people like liberty and the pursuit of happiness guaranteed by the constitution you're talking about democrats one of which is running for president who lives in your very neighborhood what do you think of that i like him very much i'm not saying that i'm going to vote for him but i like him because he's fresh he doesn't come with a lot of the baggage that those in politics that have been in politics and been corrupted almost not almost corrupted by it so now to the money interests sold out to the multinational corporations sold out to the international bankers so when you look at bush you think you're looking at the president is another pow behind him when you look at blair you think you're looking at the the prime minister there's another power behind when you look at merkel in germany you think you're looking at the head of state but there's another power behind these people and the powers that be doggin the whole world the international bankers that finance both sides of a conflict do you think the obama is the answer to george bush no i think he's capable of being an an but the powers that contend with presidents and i'll go back to president jimmy carter when he was a governor running for the presidency he saw us faults and he said when he became president he was going to open the file which is secret held by the government when he got in office we didn't hear any more from him people say things when they're running because they don't know the powers that really control the house that they're going to live in and that's why barack obama is clean he's he's fresh but the power is eating at him right now the powers that want to control him add him right now and how can he get to be president unless he raises one hundred million dollars and who of the poor people have a hundred million dollars to give him and who will provide him with the money so he can contend with mrs clinton and her big bank god giuliani and mccain and their growing bank so the people that bankroll you they're the ones that ultimately call the tune which is saying that no matter who sits in the white house if you don't up the structure that corrupts them you still don't have a president you have a figurehead and frankly that's why i say america needs a regime change and just like you have to go into the floor when these pipes underneath it that break in but you've got to root what's under the government of the united states of america or the american people will never have what the constitution guarantees do you think barack obama can do that no absolutely not he's a good person and he's looking at this thing with the beautiful the beautiful eye of a beautiful person he doesn't he knows some of the ugliness of politics because he's been in it long enough satan that's why religion is in effect is the divisions in the muslim world that's a panic muslim killing muslim muslim bomb in another mosque of a muslim if they did that's an is adultery because she's gotten in bed with the world so if that happens through a person just as jesus was or is there a person you see that on this earth now or that will come who can do that who can of root the evil that's why we say set up the kingdom of god on earth and there's no one here now that you see has a quark he's here he's around that's why the world is in the shape it is if that's why master of the day of religion he's a human but he's in the world to do a job and the job is being done the house is being divided the house is being set up on one side not black and white but on one side o one side right which side do we want to be on bush is wrong he must get right the government is wrong it must get right and we in the black community the black community is living wrong and it must get right we have to choose today between two signs one of life and one of death and if we make the wrong choice we get the right answer is or someone which is like to see barack obama you know of course i would but what i'm looking at is a reality put him in the white house in these troubled times he has a good understanding of islam he has a good understanding of christianity he has a growing understanding of politics he's so universal in the way he grew up with a black absentee father and a white president mother who nurtured him and gave him the best of education in the draft as our schools in indonesia but if you watch the way he went back to his absentee fathers home and respected his paternal grandmother and all of his relations on that side and the way africa responded to this son of africa well he can't just say i'm the son of africa he's the son of a woman from kansas he's got to respect her who naturally him he grew up in schools in asia what better person to put in the white house because black and white are adding each other but here is a man from chicago who got the white vote in southern illinois and that's not a light weight thing that he did he's a black man today that can gather the youth young whites young blacks young hispanics young asians he is a beautiful human being and i wish the best for him but i know the powers that are already poking at the brother and i know if he ever gets to the white house he'll understand it better by was black men and the horrible image that was being portrayed by hollywood black men we had the picture colors we had t picture the menace to ministers society we had these movies new jack city and others that went all the way around the world but it showed black men in a low kind of life where we are dragging america down that's the image that is projected so if america decided to move on black men and in the black community the violence was getting so terrific that even politicians and mothers were calling for the national guard to come into the community if the slaughter of black men took place in that time period the whole world would not have cried out because their only killing a useless population that is dragging the country down since then it's gotten even why it's since the million  now not only is the black man degraded but the type of videos that we put out with a black woman with a credit our grandmother in that kind of light and then use the big a word to describe any woman is an insult whether it's done by a white person are black person no female who is made in the image and likeness of god should be called after the female side of a dog but we have been lowered from