load up on guns and bring your badge is a guy with a camera out there trying to cover a news event so there's a bit more on cam one which is th but already it's only exactly nine sixteen and we've already had our big preliminary adventure of the day which is  well just because we're starting the new primary real here let me let me recap simply for was the previous many to be real which is thirteen minutes before nine we're crossing across the but right so briefly jacob dyson nichols go in down for the count today and what the count will be it's only one count of conspiracy that's not our words that's the federal prosecutors so you know we didn't know what to expect today we assume that the courts in this big new federal courthouse were going to be pretty big and we'd have the opportunity to position ourselves fifty feet away from gregory j i think what they were doing was you know they were going to make a last minute rush of nickels to get in although that doesn't seem like the smart way to enter the qinghai guy told me i think that's going five over there in the yellow he told me that  patrolling the perimeter here why is he doing that didn't say anything to me but so anyway i went in and found out that they would not check my camera which  to the media person she was on clear about this at the old courthouse on fifth you could check a camera they have this absolutely no camera and more or less absolutely no recording devices policy and so they have these little  you know two hundred feet straight up as you can see so heavily fortified and i'm not going to comment on that further because you know actually i will in some way you know they say there was a case that  concluded yesterday with a dismissal of charges against all of the defendants and those are going to be retried in chicago these are the the  sears tower bombers who seem to have never really physically implemented the purpose i can but they kind of sat around talking revolution or something and that was enough to indict although you know they were they were revolution and he was actually saying let's do that so anyway i may go on about that so for any federal courthouses or tense places anyway and i'm not going to say that that's perfectly understandable to me because it's really not except  area of economic activity i mean why is this place crawling with marshals for what reason because you know there's a budget for it but if it was still on the phone and i believe it's just an intimidation technique you can't be on the phone to nichols if nichols is in the courtroom actually he could conceivably you can actually sneak a cell phone call there from what i understand but my guess is they don't want to make a big deal out of what's going on today because you know they want to go to court and talk about how mr lee crashed the party how mr lee crashed the party at  it's a court hearing where you know they're catching up with this guy for being a dirty rat i mean really a dirty rat and get a chance to ask the feds about anything today i'll be asking him about this purported five thousand dollars you know it's just this excusable level of remuneration for committing big time federal crime i think he wants me to approach the window and then they'll try to charge me with with photographing the interior security station of the federal station everything was polite says i went through the scanners and songe and i went up to can hours on sixteen and  and i said i could now or this is court that's the day yes but it's pretty crowded in there the judge doesn't allow standing room and i said ok and then a couple people were walking out so i figured ok it may be full but two people just walked out so i guess that's two spots for me and i said and so right as i'm opening the door and walking in i turned around to stokes and said rodney rodney how big is it in there how big is it in there and then i want to kind of marshals says  and then they rush in you know two guys two short old guys in blue suits and rodney so it's behind them you can't enter there no you can't enter there why not step outside sir i put his hand on my shoulders to please step outside sir oh ok well and he said he was federal marshal or i said you know what's the big deal about entering the facility and  he said you're going to have to leave and i said will could you just leave at least tell me why if you don't leave you'll be charged i said charged with wide and here as i was walking toward the elevators you know by a few steps i was clearly except and i even went like this charge of what charged with wives and he said not complying and i said not complying with any legal order based on the false information that rodney so i made my way to the elevator accompanied by two of the short old guys and one of them was wearing a badge same with the name taylor out of the other guy had on but they were too intimidating because they were older guys you know and oh  the criminals oh yeah of course let's acknowledge that gregory j is not a new defender i mean he's not a defendant at all but you know twenty five year old son working for three years after supposedly after you graduated college but the next act tried conspiring to rip them off and charging papers recommending far l than the minimum which i don't understand at all they were there recommending not charging papers but the sentencing memory is recommending five months when the minimum is ten months they let this guy off on four out of five counts and  the sentencing guidelines as calculated by the u s attorney are ten months sixteen months and they're recommending five and that ten to sixteen months count collation is based on the no previous record of convictions and the seriousness of the crime which was rated as it's an on there scale so how is it under those circumstances there were only recommending half the minimum so mr robinson the attorney for the defendant should be coming out to make a statement gregory j most likely will not say anything but you never know boy would do well not to say anything too because he came out you know right down this walkway here a few feet over there with a smirk on his face the last time and you know nichols were they they were that mr and dour as as one report on television put it a reporter asked isn't meaningful to have your dad here somebody asked nichols junior and he mumbled something that they didn't transcribe it was like just like oh yeah and they said he was clearly grateful to have the support of dad the mayor of the city of seattle clearly grateful but you know that was it wasn't clear that he was crazy but was clear is that he had a big smirk on his face you know it's just it's just a high profile defense want to want a little little tiny smile the kind of a bowed head and that's what you do when you're getting off and picked cotton charges you know that could've gotten five years when you're confident you're going to get off and the miss that there was only five thousand dollars that stake that will be a travesty and the you know there's a pretty clear indication in the sentencing memorandum it says well we you know the prosecution's feels that probationary time alone would not be sufficient to deal with the severity of these crimes trial yet it's not sufficient a lot of he would say sixteen months isn't sufficient ninety thousand dollars that's what he's more or less the same directly participated in that that ninety thousand dollars man would do that with a gun you didn't like ten years federal time and no no no possibility of parole right and you know he is obviously less serious to do it with how to get out and i mean ten years plus i mean if he did it as a federal crime if he did that in a bank for instance so a slap on the wrist are clear indications that maybe a day for unli a slap on the wrist although there's up to this point there's been no indication from mr tate london j j london but he was going that way until earlier this week the sentencing memorandum was published as a matter of filing it with the courts called the sentencing memorandum and you know i was told by the media person with  us big time organized crime they call it the train an organization but train is not as far as i can tell it's not a reference to some traditional you know hong kong or otherwise based organized crime organization it's just one of the other defendants name but it sounds a little bit gnarly but no one in the media has used the o c term organized crime sure they're reluctant to use told us a few weeks ago in a mass meeting that greg nickels wants to close down public axe t v so when he cracks down on what you know when the executive director seems to be in direct contact with the gregory nichols office tells me public access t v is almost a thing of the past because greg nickels wants to shut down that's almost exactly what he said i can get into the details later but that's in essence exactly what he said that nichols wants to helping them raise money but also he was it was extremely unwise for him the guy's name is marshall kercher the new executive director of public access t v they obviously is very unwise for him to have been so explicit in saying that greg nickels that which has been in the papers that the mayor's office is hostile to funding public access t v but it's basically him saying don't don't you know don't make any mistake what i'm doing here and demanding moneys to be on public access t v which is a pretty shaky legal concept of being asked me is being coordinated in response to requests or demands by greg nickels mayor of the city of seattle or apparently is it a really strong position to be demanding the things these days you know what with  big time federal crime in his very own family this is a big organized crime conspiracy and and and then the only the only thing you can say and nichols defense really is that he seems to have been extremely poor at pulling it off in other locations they managed to you know pull in eight hundred thousand dollars in ninety minutes i think it's their activities at the next scene they were over for days and apparently allegedly only in a amounted to about do the monologue in full here but you keep hearing this term many baccarat many back in connection with these crimes in the funny thing about that is not that i have experience in playing the game but from what i understand in the news accounts it's a game of chance this just a draw game it's not like blackjack it's not like poker there's no element of skill involved in it so it's the stupidest possible crime to commit because rigging a game of pure chance so if somebody wins and wins and wins again it's either that the odds are astronomical against that happening as where that's not really the case in blackjack or poker because someone can just be a highly skilled player and that slants the odds hugely in their favor in terms of understanding that someone making one hundred thousand dollars in a few transactions is luck plus skill this is just luck which means as they're examining that videotape evidence of how the curd games went down the owners of the casino are going to be pretty bugged to realize that it's some sort of  keep getting lucky and lucky and lucky time after time after time right so i mean it is no defense at all to say that the guy is a poorly trained relatively unskilled and really stupid treatment i mean it is no defense at all and actually another part of this is that it's all being drawn down to this five thousand dollar bets that bit and i believe that that's really the crux of what's not being understood about this story which is what is the basis of this five thousand dollars benefits and nichols he did all this big time federal crime for five thousand dollars i doubt it but it's completely unrealistic and no one's in all of  the material that's been published about is is employment at the casino no one's ever described his level of remuneration for being a pit boss is but if the guy was making you know fifty thousand dollars plus i don't know what those jobs pay maybe a hundred thousand dollars plus or something why would he be buying into this conspiracy for five thousand dollars it's completely it seems completely unrealistic and i can't imagine that some guy is hanging out in a casino day after day on the lucrative described and that you know wanting twice the minimum wage twice the minimum wage being you know whatever thirty five thousand dollars years something he had to be making big time money which makes the five thousand as an unrealistic and the time is nine forty two this could go on for another hour of them sitting in the apparently if i go up there and photograph that area and some close up way i may be violating federal crime by photographing a federal securities and meeting their little checkpoint there it's like when you go to the elections office they let you photograph everything but you can't photograph the computer is that as the tabulation of your vote was it cannot be seen by human eyes or at least  thirteen says unless they know something we don't now like maybe they'll be an offsite press conference or something with ma and pa sonny  recommending five months rather than the apparent minimum of ten months the ten to sixteen months guideline range ten months is the minimum of that it's a zone c offense for zone c offenses court in this advisory framework has the discretion to split a sentence and impose its face five months imprisonment and five months of home confinement so that was the basis for a why did the prosecution recommend half  minimum just considering all the facts and circumstances here it seemed to be an appropriate recommendation and briefly could you describe for me the the ongoing nature i noticed you're sensing memorandum you describe gig was up as it was described but that's true and i made that comment in court also in our sentencing memorandum and so you believe that mr nichols jacob nichols was involved in the staff scheme on an ongoing basis his involvement was much more than just introducing the criminals to the workers who were available to commit crime and i as i said it's to send scene i believe it was an ongoing role and it wasn't simply introductions and if you are you  ninety thousand dollars i jake you're a big time convicted federal criminal now what's the reason for the continual smirk you had it on your face when you pled guilty and had it on your face all day today an explanation for the continual smirk on your face  tree is there something amusing about committing federal crime you think your father being the mayor of the city of seattle three months time for big time federal crime and the show's over and you're right anyway muldowney is there just making nice that surprises me that anyone wants to be polite but the fact is you realize that a transaction went down and the tra for impinging itself into the situation camp because he says he really wants it to go on business as usual and they are collecting a lot of computers a lot of that kind of equipment and taking that out of here to try and accomplish that in the meantime our investigators still haven't had a cause for this one reporting live in seattle  rachelle ninety eight years a lot of memories and that place the son of seattle mayor greg nickels will spend three months in federal prison jacob nichols pleaded guilty in august to conspiring to steal from the new river casino he says he excepted five thousand dollars bribes to introduce members of a gambling ring to crooked card dealers as part of a plea agreement nichols will pay back more than ninety thousand dollars to the casino he could have spent up to sixteen months behind bars rent in police have a warning about a rape suspect  they've got new news broadcasts monday through friday and honestly i don't quite recall what the weekends are like but this is friday and five does an hour a full sixty minutes highly in complete coverage are they going to are they going to you know it's dark at five it's much less dramatic say well at five o'clock to say you know about seven hours ago there was a story  a find the guy from five did like a thirty second little soundbite over there and then dash when we approached him because he didn't want to be on channel twenty nine ari i don't base my public access conspiracy to rip off the poorest people in the united states tribal india it's right now you know the people who are close to the casino action and the people who benefited from that  doubt they've moved themselves from the traditional status to native americans as the poorest people in the us of a but you know traditionally the poorest