africa if you were not allowed to demonstrate against the apartheid in south africa but only against this were to muscle in this is still a great israeli success in germany plays a very important role in this success that the main problem and the main reason for the criminal policies is not is not discussed is not touched upon only the symptoms we have to change a little bit what we are doing not in terms  to drive the message home of what are we dealing with because one of the greatest paradoxes of what goes on in israel and palestine is that on the one new in this and on the other hand israel succeeded with the help of its allies everywhere including in this country to build this complex explanation that is so complex that only they can understand and you are not allowed to interfere specially if you are germans you are not allowed to interfere in this analysis because it's very complex it's not it is really not complex and this is why his stories so important understanding the not so complex his story  movement was and is doing to the the story's all about yes there are other stories connected to it i agree the fate of the jews in europe the whole look just i don't know the relationship between christianity and judaism over the last two thousand years but these are sidebars these are not their main story they belong to the story but they do you don't begin this this is in israel even unfortunately palestinian students who are israeli citizens when they learn about the history of their own country they begin in odessa i remember my palestinian students in said that's because you are under occupation even inside is not just in the west bank not just in the gaza strip palestinians inside israel are also under occupation and also on the call on the taking place on mars on the moon this is the only peace process in history that i know of that had no relevance whatsoever with the problem it was supposed to solve but they were to talk about something which has nothing to do with what's going on on the ground actually if you know hebrew you'll know but the whole hebrew language from eight hundred eighty two until today which was that colonialism was not so popular so they say they turn slated it differently they found the word settlement which means something else in english and they found the word they said yes it's called own eyes but it's  israeli jew you don't understand it if you're not a zionist israeli jew of course you cannot understand and i think this is important to bring back in our teaching in schools in our approach to the public in our negotiations with the political elite in this country and in the west to say to them you are dealing with the last colonialist project and as bizarre as it sounds even in the twenty first century this colonialist project employs the same tactics of colonialism in the nineteenth century and i think that every decent person every decent person in the west like in the time of colonialism would not stand on the side of cologne yunus but you have to clean your language you have to clean your mind and you have to think that irrelevant will people say about what you say it doesn't matter what they say they will they will regard you as anti semitic even if you support the two state solution because it means you don't support the two state solution is they understand it because you don't understand the problem you think that the two state solution is a sovereign independent state over the west bank and the gaza strip no you don't understand  government this is a state and if you don't understand that this is a state that shows that you still have to learn about the complexity  colonialism is one message from the past that we should accept and we should deal with and we should recruit the veteran as well as the younger  of activists to work for something which is universally should be very easy to recruit people for the fight against colonialism the fight against the idea that bank and they're going to do it next week if we will continue to talk about peace negotiations two state solutions all kinds of irrelevant concepts that have nothing to do with the realities on the ground the thickened concept from the past which i think we should insist on conveying to people whether we try to protest against the international community as an acceptable ideology and policy only genocide is regarded by the international community as worse than estimate cleansing even if they're children they have to be totally deal minimised and anybody who lived in israel long enough as i did knows that the main corruption of people through the military and the road from kicking out the baby from the house or killing the baby is not very long and i think but the message of ethnic cleansing is the message of criminalizing not the policies of the state of israel but criminalizing the state of israel and we should do this we should do this because only thing that can happen to a country and the worst thing that happened to palestine is the state of israel and if we want to make the country of palestine a place where people could live as equals in fic live in many ways better than in other parts of the middle east maybe even better in some parts of europe is to bring the country back at the expense of the state and i know this is not easy in this is not about questioning the right of the state to exist we are individuals we are activists we don't have the power to challenge the right of states to exist we cannot eliminate states israel has the power to eliminate states we don't have the power to eliminate states will we have is a moral power to say to people that the kind of state that you have state led to the expulsion of half of the native population of bust show me any other situation in history with the international community and the slogan of peace would come in say in order to make this country a peaceful place i have to kick out of the people who live there only in israel and palestine we have this  in the name of peace and once you start like this the history of israel it's very difficult to retrieve and to explain that actually you have to study history and go back to nine hundred forty seven and  we know who is the real mother in the case of israel and palestine we know who was willing all the time supposedly to petition so i think that the whole idea of the ethnic cleansing is connected to the international support for it  but the agreement in the consent of the united nations a later on the european community and later on the united states to say that this is the way peace order to build a democratic society with the majority can decide what to do you are entitled first to define the majority even by means of killing the other side so that you will be sure what will be the result of the democratic elections israelis don't find it all bizarre that if you create a democracy you can also perpetrate ethnic  so that you get the right electorate for the future democracies but a lot of people in the west will talk about israel as a democratic state because they would say the majority votes and decides really democracy and i think we should bring that to the fore the only way to keep israel is as a democratic state according to the zionist ideology is to continue to be a criminal state main driving ideologies behind the jews sticked ethnic cleansing and colonialism of the reason that we have a jewish state in israel this is not what we are told of course either israelis were born there and we're not told as people who support israel around the world we are we say we are told about two very different ideal that we are told about the need to find the jews a safe place and we know it's not a very safe place for jews it's the only unsafe place for jews to be in israel that's what the place where most of the jews have been dying in great numbers since nine hundred forty eight and this is the place that would jews can recreate themselves as a national movement where they can exercise the right for self determination but we know that israel is not interested in the right of self determination for the sure that it's not an arab state and if you are and you live on a mountain in the himalaya but you are definitely not in our own you will become an israeli jew citizen in no time if you're willing to come over there is no problem the rabbis would make sure that you are a jewel and they may cause you to go through some painful operations but if you are a man but all in all you are welcome because you are not an arab and if you are an arab jew you will have to the are about is yourself otherwise you will not be welcome in the israeli jewish society now the explanation they would say it's unrealistic to be refugees but they should look forward to for the possibility of returning that they should be encouraged to think about a different kind politike then it means that the balance of power determines your attitude well the balance of power as we had yesterday between the largest and strongest israeli army in the middle east and the weakest military power in the world right if this balance of power determines our executes we shouldn't even meet here today we should give in to these israeli dictates and we know these even to acknowledge the right of free to let alone truck to implement the right of return is not because some people would thing because they have a very were involved in ethnic cleansing itself feel unhappy about it and if you talk about the right of return you bring you this is the kind of panacea and the remedy that's the major thing that's the that's the main israeli refusal for the right of return so when you support them with this it will end when you support the palestinian right of return you are not only supporting which i understand we all do the right of people to return you are saying a very simple no to racism that's what you're doing you just say no to the only racist state we have in the middle east we have not very nice regimes in the middle east i agree the political regimes in the leaves are nothing to write home about i would not publicize them as sort of recommendation for future societies to build their politics on this basis the twenty first century that you can maintain these colonisation by openly pursuing erased is been taining racist state should not be acceptable