following program is sponsored by seattle open door church open door church he's committed to loving god loving people and loving why our doors are open to whomever no mass required seattle open door church fifteen bother so we're going to go the book of room and romans chapter eight and if you've got the burgundy bible to make it easy for you to find it's we're trying to help you to learn how to find that bible passages from page nine forty four of the burgundy bible if you have another bible we're going to be at romans chapter eight verse twelve we're going to go through it see where we get through it so last couple weeks of even talking about different things we talk about romans chapter seven says the fact that we feel that we have this battle going on between right and what is right and what is wrong that we want to do what is right but we do the wrong and then there's times we do the wrong we want to do the right to be out this battle going on and then we find out that thank goodness for jesus christ our life that there is the forgiveness of god and then we learn to know condemnation and those who love jesus christ and so if you know jesus as your lord and savior and you fall short you repent and there's forgiveness and then we learn that there's a battle going on between the flesh and the spirit and that we can walk in victory because the spirit that rose jesus from the grave well is within us there is no excuse for blatant willful sin by a christian because every christian has a holy spirit living then him and that spirit is who in me and i love him to rule and reign i can walk in holiness and then last week we talked about baptism with the spirit we just talked about being filled the spirit and then we had a symbolism of taking a filthy sock which some  ok we talked about socks you put them on your feet and either people walk on you or you walk on them ok and we talked about that god can take something isn't right does that make a right just through the power of the spirit and then we took that stock and we did what to it we baptized it you know we baptized it with lighter fluid be baptized with lighter food and we baptize with lighter and i did baptize it all the way you know i did baptize it all the way i was afraid what would happen ok so what if i would have taken that that container and i fill that hole of a lighter fluid and then soaked a sock in there for a while and then lit it what would ha sock you would even be able to see the sock you know when you get back says all the spirit people don't see you anymore they see god oh yeah that's the problem goal i want people to see me if you want people to see you they're going to see you  they're not going to see god it's all being baptized the holy spirit just be filled with this holy spirit so now those go in here in this look at this context and see what we can find because if i'm filled with all the spirit of the spirit that raised jesus from the grave wel within me i have the holy spirit within me there's some amazing things that can happen in this take a look in here and see who we are in christ so romans chapter eight verse twelve so then brothers we are debtors not to the flesh to live according to provided we suffer with them according to that we may also be glorified with him this break it down so we are debtors not to the flesh to live according to the flesh are we to live according to the flash he says we're not dead to the flesh that means we don't all the fashion in the ink that means the flash cannot demand for us to live in the flesh to g m a when your flesh is saying you need to do this that you are not a debtor to the fish you don't have to obey the flash things of the world if people say why i have sinned and i don't die do you understand what death is talking about tell me something if i am chasing after the things of this role will it bring death in my spirit the absolute bring death of my spirit if i chased after the things of the rural is there a place where i don't find satisfaction and what starts to happen your joy starts to die your peace starts to die your relationships start to die everything starts to die if you're walking in the flesh is that true or not has anybody ever experience that doesn't go up it goes down whenever you live in the flesh jesus christ as lord and savior and they believe it with all that they have not because it's head knowledge because it's in their art is they live with lie they have energy and they have life in them there's an excitement to do the things of god there's excitement to just live life and i would tell you it's very sad when i know multitudes of christians that seem very unhappy with life there's no excitement there's no energy and i'm not talking about you have to run j and reign there is life that comes out of that there's something that is there i had somebody was going to give it out flyers the other day i was going out door hangers over all towards apartments and they said to me that they said to me it's pastor i'm so sorry for you as they said i'm really sorry for you i says what do you mean i'm sorry that overall the church seems to not have why i says what do you mean he says it just you know i'm used to where i come from where people are excited about talking about jesus that when they get together and you talk to them they're talking about the things that god's doing he said i'm used to the fact that when you get together with people who are christians that they want to do something for the is that that you've experienced your life as you've been filled with the holy spirit you know what it means to be filled with all the spirit and you don't want anything less than what the holy spirit and i would argue that all of us have different personalities we all have different ways of dealing with life we all have different character traits but at the end of the day does people know that you love jesus so do you have to shout for people to know you love jesus get to run around the pews for people to know you know the jesus kno you don't have to run around from the know you love jesus but can there be something about your life that they know what do you talk about what do you read what you read not give you books this is a bunch of reviving the holy spirit now here's the reality you need to read this first the bible you need to read this to know if those are true because you don't go by them is the truth this is the truth but how many of you are reading something else besides books that lift up your spirit why won't you read a book in the holy spirit because if you read about the holy spirit all the character traits of the holy spirit and how the holy spirit works you start to want the holy spirit in your life when you realize the holy spirit is your comforter will start to want the holy spirit in your life will are ready because someday you even need some comfort some day some day you can have to face that there's a couple of funerals going on and you need what you need the holy spirit to give you that comfort that peace to deal with that and so out of it there should be something that shows there's life in you it says here that all man die there should be life that's in you for all were led by the spirit of god are sons of god i've said this before some people don't like this no one is a child of god unless they're a born again follower of jesus going to be a son of god you're a child of god that you're going to submit to the father no how many know that we've maybe had good fathers we did always submit that mean they weren't our father they're still our father right so even if we don't submit to god at times he still our father but with this is talking about his very you have the spirit of god in it and you're a child of god we're going to find out why that's important that's significant to know that you're a child of god first of teen for you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear but you receive the spirit of adoption is sons by whom we cry father do you know you were adopted into the kingdom let me tell you something when you were born you were not part of the kingdom of god so if i'm not a christian does god still love me he loves me even if i'm a part of his creation but here is talking about the fact that we have not received the spirit of slavery in other words we don't have the spirit slavery don't we don't fall back into being slaves th we don't be slaves to sin because we've been adopted into the kingdom and if you're adopted to the kingdom adults then you hear me if you're part of the kingdom sin should not be your second nature sin shouldn't be part of your nature begin will fall short but how should we be identified as we should be identified as followers of jesus christ there are gods of what you think about you now i want you to think about something some of us were raised in an environment where there is no respect for the father and so you know how we live because there is no respect for the father we live disrespectful lives and we do whatever we want but if you lived in an environment where you respected your father what did you do you honor him did you not you honored him he was special you're proud of your father my father wasn't the best father my father only told me he loved me one time that i can remember i don't call that a good father but this i did do i respected my father something respected him so i don't know about you but i grew up an environment where you were proud about your dad and so whatever your dad did you're proud of my dad drove a truck so he delivered me to be the old days where you take a a side of a lamb and carry it on his back and deliver it to the grocery store and you know what we got to do me and my brother there were times he left one of a fight over who got to do it he would let us ride with him in the truck we got to sit in the truck and ride next to dad to go to  meet and what was really cool is when he would let us go in with and we would carry i'm sure was a probably the smallest box of bacon you could think of but we really felt like we were carrying something and so we'd go to walk in and the grocery cooler and we'd turn around an equal return around and we helped dad deliver meat and we were proud and whatever dad said we did because we wanted to honor our dad that was proud of and there were places it was actually illegal for i mean to have us doing it because we got an accidental and we got hurt we could sue the company right but dad big kerry wanted to take his sons and i memory go to certain place he says i don't trust this guy he might say something to the company you got dad we never said you know we don't want to be in the back of that truck we're going to sit in the front and that's the way it is the ad but how many christians when god says take a back seat or try to take the front seat how many christians glory or living in shame this is if you're a willful disobedience you're acting like you're not adopted you're acting like you're not part of the family that you disown the family and he says were adopted an adoption a special you know adoption sis says that your parents didn't want you and gave you and somebody love good enough to adopt you people who have been through adoption to get this i did they weren't loved but they don't understand is how much they were law that somebody else that you're not their child and they take you on as their child and they give you the same benefits as being born into that family and the bible says here that we have been adopted by who by god the god of the universe says that you're an outcast that you'll fit in but i want to bring you into my kingdom that is so special then what does he say and we cry aba father means daddy we cry daddy i've said it before many many times when it comes to warship when we lift our hands up why they do that well one reason for me i do it is because i always have that image in my mind that there is the dad that comes home and a little kid is waiting for daddy to come all and when daddy opens up the door what does the little kid do they lift their hands up and they say daddy daddy daddy daddy gets them and grabs hold obama now has a daddy does he grabs hold and goes dad is not going to hurt their child when a kid lives his hands up he knows that daddy is going to protect them and that if you throws him he's going to catch him and if we have that kind of relationship with god we know that god will never harm us he's never going to do anything to harm he's never going to lead anything harm us and somebody is going to say well that's not true because this happened to me this happened to me as a christian this happened to me this i says you will never let in they happen to you that will harm you whatever happened to you doesn't mean it has to harm you if i am turning around and i'm serving god and i'm honoring god i drive down the road and i get a car wreck and i lose an arm through an accident so he's going to say well god was your dad he wouldn't let you lose your are right if you lose your arm does that mean that god doesn't love you is your god and on knowing god can he take you the loss of your arm and in glory out of it can he turn around and take your life out of you losing the nor can you you know the attitude is the attitude is god's my father and my father doesn't let anything bad happen to me so when something looks like it's bad to me that there is greater good that's going to come out of that and if you're filled with the holy spirit you're baptized with the holy spirit that's the way you've been because you're in line with the spirit of god i don't think there's anything that comes my way that god doesn't allow and that he has a purpose for in it there is good that comes from it so in the midst of when i had all that siad because stuff and then i broke my foot along with that and all that mess i don't know if i ever going to get it back by what foot is time time sorts of probably hurt for the rest of my life i don't know at times it bothers me sometimes and her out of it there i get my their fault that i tripped it the reality is is that god is a believers allows things to happen our life to build character within us to make us more like him to be out of place is to look at it me god father don't you know how righteous i was i never said whatsoever and you're let this happen you i can't even trust you now i've lived with you i grew up with you i was with you from eternity past and now you've got your turn your back on your rotten terrible god is that what jesus  he does he looks at the people that are abused and he says father forgive them for they know not what they do and it says in scripture that he looks forward to the cross why didn't look forward to the cross because he knew what was going to happen after the cross the redemption  man and so when things happen our way dillies see daddy father there or do we see him against us and i would argue some of you seem against you because daddy wasn't there because daddy was an abuser because daddy was violent because that he was an alcoholic but because daddy did this daddy that is so you have what you see of god you see god in the light of the dead you had on earth you had to be in a place to get healed to realize the god of heaven is totally different than that and the interesting thing is if you want god to be your dad you father he's more than willing to reveal himself to you that way so i grew up as an atheist i believe in god i grew up in a father that never said i love you except for one time i never knew my father i went just right after my dad passed away i was into my suicidal stuff and i can tell you that dad never knew that i deal with the impression or anything else because we had no relationship but when i accepted christ god did in america my life man these are certainly times i didn't trust them i don't believe is there because my father wasn't there but always go back to that god is a good guy and i go back to the scripture when i didn't feel like i was there i go back and it says here that i've been adopted and there is there is hope t v dot org and we have information on frequently asked questions about christianity real let you know step by step what except jesus christ you lord and savior encourage you to go to there is hope t v dot org that is there is hope t v dot org also let you know if you would like to talk to me person you can always give me a call toll free anytime one eight six six one open door churches are vision is loving gun loving people loving life now that's the vision for a church to love god to love people love life let me tell you something that if you love god and love people you will love life you know why some people don't love say god i just love you with all my heart thank you jesus so you've done so much for me lord i just love you lord what can i do for you that's what happens when you have true love love her lord what can i do you love me how can i love you you know god is yourself so loving god leads to loving people let me tell you if you love god i love you so much what can i do he says i want you to love this person over here i want you to love this person over here i want you to do this for this person here almost are you still love me people start accent about life when there's a fire let me tell you if you say i don't have a fire in me why don't i have a fire in the wind i'm not excited about life you're probably not loving gun loving people try it just try it if you if you think life is kind of boring t start saying god help me to love people and let me tell you you will be able to love people the way god has you to love them unless you start loving god alone i am my life and i'm a deadbeat human being i'm a deadbeat christian i'm the most boring christian there is god you have been listening to there is so with pastor 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