man northrup and what's happening to this country well we're going to spend a lot of time on that tonight if you don't want to talk about from now is the time to turn it off because we've got a lot we're going to go into more detail that they go into in the new york times in the washington post and give you more accurate information because the outrage is really just really piled up this week and overflowed multiple attacks on all g b t rights and or health and the rights and dignity of all he had just tweeted they proposed his proposed ban on transgender troops and we were starting to get the blowback the blowback is huge but there are lots more details to fill and although we were on the right track last fall are you sure that movement has hit the human rights campaign for a snub of workers rights it's an ugly story we have two new stories this week of murders of transgender women including knows but we do agree with trump on something that the white house isn't done and he has made it now you know i haven't been there for a long time but i was part of a small group getting a little personal tour of the white house years ago from someone who worked there including the oval office and all the ceremonial rooms and other offices and stuff i was  with all this transgender stuff now of course it all started with this this tweet this this preemptory tweet that said transgender people can serve in the military and the assumption two was among the  that this was an attempt to distract from the russia stuff but that is not what the story was and we told you last week that was not what the story was but now we know more details of the story why did it happen it happened because there was a defense bill that had that trump on it passed in defense appropriation bill because it includes a lot of money for his wall his mexico wall and it was being held up by most others  to get vicky hartzler who brought this amendment that we told you last week failed she's from minnesota i believe now misery in missouri she says she's a far right extremist she had proposed the abend meant that would bar medical care for transport people in the military medical care so trump well the house defeated that yes narrowly and she was going to try to bring it back she was freaked out she was freaked out that the house defeated it no one expected the house to defeat it but a couple talks to mike pence and together they go to the president and say we're not going to support your whole defense bail if you don't fix this thing with care medical care for transport people in the military so he doesn't  apparently and it's too disruptive all the medical care for transgender people could be paid for by foreign trips to his golf course well that have also be paid for by one quarter of what they are spending on it by a for members of the military so there it is that's apparently why he did it and we thought ok maybe this will fade away because the resistance this was unbelievable we doubts about that last week but orrin hatch and richard shelby and all these unexpected people conservative senators saying oh i don't do this well and now the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff very quickly spoke up dubner and said a tweet is not policy until we get an official policy from the white house and the pentagon we will continue to treat all our members of the military with respect we're not changing a thing and then the commandant of the coast guard said i am against this and i'm going to protect m transgender service members these people are their heads on the chopping block well you know fifty two are not his they're not his generals fifty two retired generals and admirals have signed a letter supporting trans people there are any of the american people support transgender military service fifty eight percent agree transgender people should be allowed to serve in the military this is a cruel cynical and evil so hard solar and steve king from iowa if you thought it was going to go away the hill was reporting that the pentagon has been instructed to draft guidance barring transgender people from serving in new york forces i really thought there was a chance it might go away at one of the white house press briefings about what was happening with this policy and she said we're working in a comprehensive way to talk to everyone to establish the guidelines for the new policy now since she lies about everything it's certainly possible that we don't have to take that seriously but the word is that the pentagon has been told to draft guidelines for kicking all trans people out of the military you know our folks on the legal side at least or and trance man was quite adamant about the fact that there would be a legal strategy that would talk about equal protection and you know non fact face bigotry and stuff but the history of the courts relationship to the military is that the courts have given complete deference to the military wasn't it and we had a hard time trying to overturn don't ask don't tell we got a few not right well and he's the one who's been kicking immigrants out right and left he's been happily and and vociferous lay and energetically following the president's orders to crack down on every immigrant in the country every illegal undocumented whatever immigrant in the country for no reason and just picking people off the streets out of p t a meetings and baseball games and throwing them out  welcome trans people in the military canada and the united kingdom israel all happily and peacefully have trans people serving that could be helpful if we weighed in with that there is a former navy surgeon mcginn who is transgender herself who will waive the cost of gender confirmation surgery for some military personnel of the of the military is not going to pay for the i don't think that's going to make a difference at all i'm just saying people are responding of this issue he said i'm sorry i don't want to serve in this administration nineteen attorneys general and petition congress to pass a bill protecting transgender troops and that's the no so if orrin hatch and shelby and all these conservatives are serious about this they can pass legislation that would override what trump is doing that's what happened when clinton i was going to say tried he didn't try very hard to open up service to gays in the military congress intervened and took over sam nunn a democrat  was head of services and they stopped it and he and he didn't veto the unconstitutional bill now here's a little angle of transgender kids of military service members non trance military service members who have trans kids trance cancer getting medical care now through the military system are they now going to be cut off and it's a good question i was disappointed that  sixteen during the campaign wrote this article saying he's the most pro l g b t republican ever which is which was a lie mike said you really did a great job and we've talked about it on this show about how all that was a lie don't care enough to find out what's really happening on it they thought they had acute angle on and it would have on trump and it's a lie always been a lie but i have to tell you softened up some of the electorate to vote for th page stories like that and yeah i blame you i also blame you for the iraq war because you know you soften people up on that as well i blame george bush and donald trump well but here i have to mention what for me was the most depressing moment in all of this and you know i'm angry about all of it but the moment that really profound i heart was watching trump even the same day or the next day or maybe the day after doing his ceremony in the white house for the heroes who had saved steve's skull lease and the other congress members and watching crystal griner out lesbian stand matter married lesbian standing there at the right in the midst of this heat about the transgender troops standing there and accepting this honor and then her mommy yeah well trust me if it were me i either would not have been there or would throwing the transgender troop troops out by saying come and work for us in the city police department i mean this is the kind of stuff the people are doing the people are responding to this and well that is a little silver logic and it's nice that they're doing it and of course we're all upset with trump but must we forget they didn't even start to open up transgender service until last year yes under obama it took that long yeah but they were on track to move forward on it and this is just disgusting well and and i have to repeat cruel yes and cynical oh it's because it's sickening and was just done for him to get this bill passed and now it's got to be policy because he never goes back on anything it never apologizes for anything i mean even though we signed the russian sanctions bill he was complaining about it while i was doing it god damn it you know someone said today you know normally a president signing a bill like that even if he didn't like it would have made a statement about the sins of russia and the reality of this bill but he signed it talking about the sins of congress i mean he is so much like hooten who also people like mexicans and muslims oh i love the story this week that american muslims are much more likely to be accepting of homosexuality fifty two percent in a pew research center poll and white as i said many years ago when we used to go into the schools of the new york city metropolitan area to talk to kids about these issues it was a whole lot easier to go into a press communities which understood discrimination oppression then to go to the elite private schools where they are so tight and i'm a product of those private schools and and so unwilling to say anything that would threaten their shit but they're going to launch an investigation of colleges for discriminating against white up applicants oh my god i have to say because usually i rag on them all the time that  one of the most intelligent calm in depth discussions i heard about this this week was on the view where they had both conservative and liberal voices they decided to have a calm discussion and go over the real issues and the history of racism and the on equal footing that remain senate was very well done well of course trump is threatening to defund the affordable care act yeah so it's the same thing he's doing on the iran nuclear deal he wants to destroy both of them just fine what he can do with executive action and don't forget they're doing the budget and they're doing tax cuts now but the but the only people that have been big given a blank check on the military and the money we're wasting their folks were going to rise up about their welfare not again given a blank check to provide money that it could pay for all this stuff if we got same about the way we spend money on the military we're not you know the world power that we were we don't need you know troops every here there and us commitment to a just and democratic world they want to take these things out of that we're never that good at that stuff before well we've had a lot of lip service to human rights whether we follow through or not but we're all have no more of that it's all about fracking around the world and before we got started on the transcript stuff the thing that was outraged me the most was of course what trump said about about what the police should do should commit police violence i think if anything you should be impeached for that's what he should be impeached for his job is executing the laws the united states that he was telling everybody break them and well you know their excuse now is he was joking oh and i am i would say this he did say it sent me facetiously but that doesn't mean he doesn't have a serious attitude we should be breaking the heads of b you know unindicted innocent until guilty people who are being arrested studios a very prominent porn star i don't know why you're following him i don't know why your wife is divorcing you she says it's not over your political ambition you know that was just the story but oh no she said that's not the reason it's private well then that picture becomes more relevant you know come on that was the that was that new yorker interview and all the stuff about you know gay sex acts that he was accusing everybody else member commission and it's been very good to us it's the it has affirmed that discrimination based on sexual orientation gender identity is sex discrimination right and they still hold that position but trump has appoint veteran who care he is big issue is campaign against disability payments for veterans federal they're more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol the more likely to live oh you've seen these guys and the system is driving you to become one of them if you're not careful so he wants to cut off disability because p t s d is not a concept it is familiar with this is the guy and he's not a lawyer which is ok i was on the human rights commission in new york most of us were astonishing astounding propose that nominations sam brownback former member of congress then became the governor of kansas rural and the economy of can drove them into the ground promised not a cost cutting stuff scott's tax cut even the republicans there are standing up to him down in the legislature finally be vetoed his latest budget has a lower popularity rating than chris christie so the trumpet ministration is airlifting him out of kansas and into this new job ambassador for international religious freedom so in the past we have these independent right wing evangelical groups traveling  spreading anti l g b t bigotry wherever they went russia africa all over the place now we have an actual ambassador from the u s government to carry out that work and this is up to the umbrella of the so they want to make a bastard to the netherlands one of the most liberal countries in the world well and then there is the bill shine was the former co president of fox news had to leave in the scandal over not dealing with sexual harassment they're talking about him for communications director at the white house so you got one more of that amy amy cody barrett has been nominated to the u s court of appeals for the th circuit she has written that judges should put their religious faith ahead of the law in certain cases and she also served as an attorney for george bush in bush v gore so the deal is that we you know we've just gone through a list of issues things we're upset about real harm that the trumpet ministration is committing and that's not even to talk about the way they're going to destroy air and water quality with repealing regulations by list the education department and bethsaida vos everything they're doing and yet the press and i'm with the press on all their revelations about russian collusion but i think they're a little too narrowly focused read and i think we really have to broaden this out you know you wonder why people still support trump well if all they are very honest the russia stuff and they think the press is just obsessed with this no wonder if if the press got a little more specific about the same vigor on these issues of what he's doing to the country i think there could be a change the press the press is obsession and the let's just say it cable news is obsession with trump's craziness is what drove the election last year that every time he was going to say something crazy they put it on the screen they put his whole speech on the screen so there was nothing else but trump out there they were they were covering it and that's the same kind of a thing that they're doing now and it's all about keeping eyeballs on the screen but they're also making a big mistake and that's exactly what his people hate so they're not getting anywhere by trying to put that out as a standard and and they they're not analyzing what the chaos is really meant to do sort of give me one second i want i don't mean to go ahead i just don't want to lose this hot i want them to analyze what the trump administration is really up to with this chaos to make them look more closely and seriously after this this plan for deconstruction of the government they really want to destroy normal governing they were sick the press was successful in getting people to understand what was going on with the health care thing to the point that it had a fifteen percent approval rating yes people all over the country went and stopped it yes and i think some trump supporters will wake up to the fact that they were going to lose their health care well they are in the minority so if you can energize and educate everybody else you can overcome this but but the press sort of looks at the trump supporters and says you know gets a quote from them about oh yeah i still love this guy that's what i said in there or d and then they turn away they don't analyze what's really going on here and the hunger for this chaos and what that means said what that means to this country and its existence and whether we are in fact headed down a road oh destruction of the country and and i want them to take that more seriously i will offer one hopeful insight because it occurred to me this week when trump started doing the apprentice sky high ratings huge a pro ball but after a couple years nosedive and it turns out he didn't pick the people who are going to get fired he was also he would just come in and say whoa my fire of this week well i'm not sure he's picking them this time either i mean certainly not doing the firing i just want to offer that as a sign of hope that people do get recommendations to implement policies to protect transgender rights and to support individuals within vietnamese families this competitive program will award a grant of up to twenty five thousand dollar qualified organizations so that stuff is still coming out of you know our i did this sort of service i am old enough to find the acute an exquisite irony when vietnam turns don't believe will one that i think is getting people to see you know just how awful he is and the fact that the boy scouts had to apologize for this and had to also know that it's you know it's inappropriate i think the fact that the boy scouts  apologize for it is what's so stunning about this because they were not willing to sit still for this and the boy scouts certainly have had a long history of being deeply conservative and when you have offended the boy scouts and when the president the united states is capable of offending the boy scouts to the extent that they have to put out a statement like that that is a cataclysm i give credit to randall stephenson the president the boy scouts because he's got a mega merger sitting on the table now but they are in washington  approval so he was reluctant to do this now it's going to be very interesting to see how this plays out with the resistance beginning to bubble up to more of the establishment but trump did go away from that because what he heard was and transgender care and things like that ok other places so we go to the style right we can finally leave trump aside for the moment now that we have done more than half the show on him will move on to other things well and we might as well talk i'm not sure we can pin this on part of the atmosphere and while there's a lot of that going on i at the same time we have the support that we've talked about and then in michigan do want to hit person twenty one years old witt i'm twenty five years old online he was a registered nurse and a trans woman they met a year ago they got together and when he realized she was sentenced to forty years for the more murder plus sixteen years for robbing her to that's when you start to wonder about the motives for this and he apologized the family is outraged that he got only to be for a problem going on also good news from something kara california where the laurel foundation which runs summer camps for kids who are a charity positive is expanding the camps to include transgender kids in the midst of all this controversy good news from alabama where the th circuit threw out a lawsuit by an attorney who was suing essentially the supreme court over the a burger fell decision you know got  standing you can't show any harm and your arguments are terrible ridiculous good news for the national park service which is acceded to a request by activist michael patro us and will fly a rainbow flag at the stone wall national monument on christopher street in new york city he would have thought we'd have it there already but no of course we're going to lose that money but if they funded the oil under it but or a natural cat we told you about the catholic bishop of springfield illinois bishop thomas pop rock he has expanded on who is banned from communion so the divorced and remarried without a moment they can go to communion if they live as brother and sister two men who live chastely with each other as friends or as brother and brother or two women who live chastely both may receive holy communion if there is no public scandal to top he added politicians and judges who make same sex marriage legal or aid and abet abortion may not go to holy communion anymore why do we even talk about these well i hope it drives people away from the church well they're driving people away in chicago where the  style like the church of god has kicked out a member because she married her girlfriend and this guy announced on facebook she was a long time member of the church her mother was a long time member of the church her grandmother was a s attorney in brooklyn because they shut down rent boy dot com which but it's a service for escorts that have been operating for eighteen years they've been in the pride parade the feds shut it down and we protested and jeffrey her rent who ran it was just sentenced now the guidelines said like you know eighteen months to two years something like that and the judge gave him six months yes and the only reason he got that was because he had pleaded guilty to enter into a pl deal where he pleaded guilty to promoting prostitution now the fact is this is an on line service where guys want to advertise their sale of melody and for escort services or whatever and clients would find them there and it was all very adult and consensual and all that and i made it safe for the for the leo and why why this has to be illegal is a miss to me and why he didn't that i got a i got a call from randy weingarten who was the out was been head of the american federation of teachers and the there's something called the leadership conference on civil rights and human rights and it's a big thing in washington's two hundred dollars organizations and they put together a letter just to support a group of african american workers in canton mississippi who just want to organize peacefully and are being stopped by nissan and being harassed by nissan and so that's all it was was a letter signed on so they reached out to support and corporate and the human rights campaign which could be very conservative and corporate and it seemed like they would not say what their reason is they said we support workers rights that's the only quote that they would give me but that's not enough to sign on to the last but you know  not enough to work in collaboration with other civil rights and human rights group they apparently according to police saunders who's the president of ask me international said you know that they don't want to offend the son who is like a collaborated with them who he has a good l g b to rights record and pride at work said you know what you rate these or corporations and say they're great on all these issues but you don't look at how their workers are treated and the only are getting financed to some extent by nissan or any other corporation is no reason not to be truthful and and progressive in speaking up on these kinds of issues i mean the human rights campaign does some good work down there in texas right now trying to i need to learn that we have to work together and it's this way you know divide and conquer works very nicely you have to resist that though speaking of the rainbow flag there's a new book that's going to come out on harvey milk and our friend gilbert baker i the story of harvey milk and the rainbow flag a children's book and that's great in that you know i mean apparently you know harvey was the is there is a picture of gilbert making the flat chechnya there's a new report out from the russian old g b t network documenting how this all happened what still happening over there and we don't want to lose that story well and in a similar vein  by an angry mob and in the united kingdom they've been separate and they're having to fight for asylum but you know a lot of this is going on all over but in the mid bia they had their  namibia in nigeria the government has arrested forty two dollars men accused in them of being gay they were having and a chevy of that testing education at a hotel and again don't forget there are judges that trump has nominated already that want to reinstate the sodomy laws in new york and they haven't been repealed a lot of states so they can just be revived once they make that decision and the supreme court could may have met on social media well two there were yes and there were stories of twice as many men who had gone missing over the last few years but half of them turned up fine so we don't really know what's going on there are big community meeting about and they're wondering whether there is a serial killer operating but they really don't have any information or data on this yet but we'll keep an eye on any developments there out of the beach the new prime minister of serbia out lesbian says i do not want to be branded serbia's gay pm in south korea a couple of things the supreme court has told the government to stop interfering with the legal registration of a nonprofit group beyond the rainbow foundation that's good yeah go get your is that there are three hundred organizations a bed together to oppose providing equal rights regardless of sexual on well it's still quite confused there as the thinking this is about same this is about same sex marriage they haven't done it because the conservative government promised that they were going to have some kind of a referendum before they would do it and even then they might not do it well the problem is it's a coalition government not unlike the u k these days and the there are right wing conservatives who are stopping the government from doing anything progressive because they'll walk away and then the government is the prime minister is for be too right he's for same sex marriage but he cannot move ahead with the conservatives threatening to destroy his government of course i would say do it anyway because there are members of his party and he called the liberal party even though it's a conservative party they are saying that they're ready to bring this forward and to cross the aisle and he says well we don't punish people for that in our party which is why this is a little step forward but there's still a fear that this is all going to blow off by the conservatives threatening the government so hints that it might be solved in the next week or two but no nothing the out gay irish prime minister is going to show up at pride in belfast northern ireland along with the uniformed cops who have marched before but not in uniform and they're marching in uniform this year offering a lot of gay marriage packages on their ships along with the princess cruises and the piano cruises and you get permuted marriage license which is kind of cool and they've they've already been doing it on their british cruises for a while this how would you know but they say eighty five percent sixty two percent have been linked to care forty eight percent of those have been retained in care forty nine percent they say undetectable  terrible there's a big campaign to get them to stop doing this on the other hand in the philippines the department of health is starting to let people into trials to test prep because they're in favor of it now trump aids and turning up his ex lover and talking to the family and everything is really quite good and it's available online at p b s or memories of a pennant and art all right frank although he's totally antithetical to the way music operates these days because he's very quiet and very very emotional and let's read what he should says he appeared in a big concert on randall's island here in new york over the weekend he hadn't sung in public for several years and his t shirt says why be racist sexist homophobic or trans phobic when you could just be quiet very nice sweet very very nice and that's a great message and appeared in the new york times like that that was a nice spreading of the message well you know james cord his show and if you get on our e mail list we will include we will include the link to that wonderful thing that he did that little song and dance number which is very very pointed a everybody  william hof and all these people so i mean this is in the early sixty's priest own well that's that's the environment in which is is creativity grew out of well i can't claim any particular l z bt content of this but i thought so this is like a sort of like shakespeare in love on steroids and it's very very vulgar it's very violent the whole big subplot is that he's really a catholic and they're after catholics and they're torturing them and when they torture them they torture them but all right so the other character who was up there with will was on the right that's laurie davidson played by laurie davidson but marlo who was played by jamie campbell bower ins were really out there in terms of gays haven't or gay or jeezy's don't know about stuff and he tries to kiss will and will thinking why is well resisting this when you're bisexual so i'm waiting to see if it will comes around there's a lot of there's a lot of boots are coming back in september through january and if you're really looking ahead in june two thousand eight hundred the b b c is a b b c production man in the orange shirt is going to be on masterpiece