here with us today so i'm going to go directly into the question and i want to ask the star press and economy working i think it's really clear to most that it's not in some way or or another there's a lot of debate about why and how but it's really two reasons it's not working one is because we're pushed to a ball and we're pushed by survival  most would agree that the president cannot exist and this is an extract of based economy and it really is it's really destroying the planet it's pushing us to to the brink of of potentially extinction i know that sounds extreme for some but that's really how we see it is that the economic system in the present form is pushing us toward ever and ever consumption consumption consumption and extraction from the planet but that's not my but the most important reason to me the most important reason we need to evolve i mean it's a super important reason of course we have to survive but the more exciting reason is that were pulled to evolve we're back in to be a better humanity we're beckoned to being what we can be and just a quick story eric harris brown likes to say that that we're on the verge of a new communicate when we have all of throughout the last thousands of years the symphonies and and and music and literature we see ourselves on it's similar expressive capacity shift with how we generate and how we share wealth so we hope to create an economy that's like the symphonies and poetry and music compared is chief financial officers that's the only people that understand it or the fed or you know and that itself is part of the problem the fact that we have been kind of we've kind of bought that this it's this alienated thing over here it's the subject it's not so central most people understand that super central but they really believe that they can't understand it or that they're alienated from for us let me let me go through a series of redefining economics for us it's juicy and what i'm trying to say there is it's visceral it's how we treat each other it's our stance with each other it is is our basic agreement field on on our humanity in our present economic system it's pretty much dog eat dog it's if we walk by a homeless person starving in the street it's ok yes the present economic system is in some ways it's it's it's violent yeah you know and so the new my definition of  economics is it's really how we take care of you it's how we love each other it's it's in a sense our body or collective body for how we express taking care of each other it's about their relationships it's about relationships since human it's it's potentially an incredible expression of connection to each other into earth and so we really invite people to to think of economics as juicy exciting subject because it's really talking about how we take every so in these tools exciting soft because i'm starting to get more into that story and it's a story that i cherish because he brings this close to each other and close to what we can do to shift the economics not thinking that is out there but that that you belongs to all of us right here and right now and so my next question listening do you feel you live in a world of scarcity or a world of abundance because what happens is our present economic system is almost designed if you look at that where the monetary system is a debt are in a scarcity mindset when they're out there chasing money when it's a dog eat dog competitive world and that makes everyone kind out for themselves in a very kind of selfish and or potentially it invites present economic system is really the problem the problem is is distribution it's really not a problem of abundance there's plenty of food there's anough metal mind on the top of the earth to recycle to eternity there's enough materials there's enough food there's enough human ingenuity there's a nuff there's enough period of everything if we were to generate it and distribute it in a way that was equitable so for me when we when we start to think about living in abundance it's not just some psychological new age thing it's actually allowing us to look for what does the natural ways that we all give to each other that we all that we have that we can actually really organized society in a way that we are all abundant because it is there to we need people to do jobs they don't like and we need that to society so we need to pay them to create the right incentive but that that connects to some larger story on how people scarce exactly so if you look at nature nature is built on a collective model and there is competition in nature but the the end result is immense collaboration and so we need to model our economic system after that model and pretend right now it's modeled after competition that does not lead to collect and so it's it's based on on keeping people kind of running for that little bit and the essential reason for that is that is that we have lost the the the territory for the map and the map is money so we commodified so let's talk about well ok let's talk about well throughout because that's really really at the core of what we're talking about here for if we walk in to a room and we've done this in our workshops will put up a white board and will say what is wealth and everybody will say clean air soil my children love family community they'll start listening and will fill up the board with all these beautiful but the best of humanity what's well and maybe somebody will save money but when we asked someone wealthy we mean to them a lot of money so what capitalism has done our economy has done systematically over the last thousands of years is to commodify all human transaction so in the eighteen hundred you never think about paying for childcare but now childcare is part of your bill part your monthly bill and if body becomes more and more scarce and the middle class is getting pushed out all of these things that used that we used to naturally have as part of the community or part of the village or part of extended family or part of just helping your neighbor are now another bill another so we've we've deuced everything to money all of wealth has been mapped to money but then we think the money is the wealth and we've lost to the territory for the man so that's the essential piece here is how do we reclaim wealth how do we how do we develop a system that that allows us to to enable shape and flow the wealth so that's what currencies really do is that they they make visible shape are unable wealth to think about money it was supposed to be a medium for the exchange of all those wonderful things but what happened it's because it was put in a scarce monetary system and and along with the with the the consciousness evolution of humanity being in a war  to to make visible the wealth in and create ways to to empower the wealth empower the flow of wealth soar moving in the medicare into project we like to say we're moving universe and in that it's informing us and so the good news if this is new to anyone it listening out there the good news is that there's a whole movement of people there's been hundreds of  making visible shaping and enabling the well flows in that flow centric universe starts to start we start to realize that not everything has to be monetary currencies so this gets kind of technical and we don't have the time to go fully into it but there are ways with reputation currency the simple example is e bay like years ago we would have never imagined sending a car to someone in tennessee from say we're just going and trusting monetary wealth but then there's stuff that's not tradeable that's measurable but not tradeable and rankle not measurable and acknowledgeable but not rank a ball and you get up into the whole evolutionary capacity of system so the whole wealth of the biosphere and the whole wealth of human interaction you can start to to to imagine different we call them currencies but it's a tear tricky word because people quickly we're trained to reduce that back into numbers in dollars but we're thinking more in terms of reputation currencies one terms of showing up in a society where by just giving you're taken care of and where the currencies of tracking your contributions to society what you see from society are much more sophisticated than our present scarcity based monetary system and they're and they're they're put in a way that  isn't as a taxi in the case of and these distributed platforms you've had this happen your phone and it connects the need to the to the use ok wonderful beautiful there's still a middle person in there and making billions what we're talking about is tools that take out the middle and that lao it surely distributed to distributed economy and when you start to look at the issues of that there's a lot of issues there that somebody might say what happens to the middle man how do they really live well because what exactly because they are not now extracting they're invited into economy where they're into an economy where they create true value value that was either created or extracted from nature or people but everyone's invited to come into their forgiveness of who they really are in their creativity that abundance is what we then redistribute in a way that takes care of everybody and it sounds like a tall order but it's actually starting to happen we actually are have systems that work right here you are curious so you hear new definitions for economics and wealth and i also hear value right  value can be very subjective to each person maybe a piece that little stick means really value for me because i can use it for a tool and somebody else want it right and so we're saying there's value in the ways that creates more goodness truth and beauty that's what i'm consciousness so that we're there we're able to play in that coming from a place of abundance and five and personal fulfillment in our careers coupled with tools that the internet allows we didn't have the tools before we didn't have really the theory before but now the internet really allows us to do this distributed economy in and out and i really want to say here that this economy is not in at all country indication to the existing companies can grow right up with it and transition in a very beautiful and easy way these these transitions are starting to happen is the sharing economy the distributed to distributed peer to peer economy these are things that come up and they lift everyone up there is no one percent and ninety nine percent in this and it lifts everyone up it is the solution that the powers that be or see are searching for two we have a joke  our when we're doing all this stuff people think aren't you subverting the economy isn't someone listening to you and we're like oh we hope they're listening because they are only they're searching for these solutions and i believe they're on to them too it's really a win win solution that's going to raise this planet up it's not a competition it's not a power mongering and those that are have concentrated power now i think will also see the wisdom of this as we grow it it's more fun yeah so where we are starting to model this those of us in the movement don't claim to have all the answers it's a new expressive capacity we're going for bob until there's a tiger by you we're just starting you prototyping but we're also prototyping with an eye to scale in the prototyping it takes on a lot of different forms it will actually be going to be talking about that in iraq and another segment there we're going to be recording here soon but it's really the the art of commons ing or coming they say the creating the commons but creating new types of cars so you may have heard some people out there may have heard the block chain or distributed autonomy's organizations there's a lot on the internet right now about how do you really are organized and it is distributed to distributed way and we have a way that we feel creates both the the scalable new economy but also maintains the personable community level of it and we call it common ng or the creation of purpose built commons so we have the commons right everyone refers to the the air in the water water in the park and the oceans and but then we have maybe we can imagine a purpose built commons sub sets of the commons that are that are perhaps ethical containers perhaps per common purpose and within that commons when business is existing businesses existing individuals governments when they step across the membrane line of that com they're green to collaborate in a new way basically in that collaboration so agreements we start to teach these new principles of the new car and that's really what we're up you have some examples yeah so the part of the most large and most successful example and historically is the monder geim cooperatives in spain and that in the basque region of spain and this is i don't i don't have my statistics but there's hundreds of  businesses in this in this cooperative and they are individual competitive businesses they're all they haven't changed anything on the on the basic market economy model except that they've agreed to collaborate ok so what happens there is if you're in a job that's not fulfilling or if you're not fulfilling what your your superiors or your or your business would like you to cooperative society starts to work imagine taking my under god which is a collaborative the businesses and let's bring the philanthropists and investors into the circle instead of having an arm's length what we call an alienated relationship with let's have their becoming purpose and common goals and then also let's bring the more humanities piece which we call the integration function which doesn't happen a lot in the society right now there's a running to do business so what you're saying is that's the come of the five investors relations exactly exactly that's a good way to look at it is that if you look at any one of our roles  nation imagine if we could draw them into a circle and sit everyone sits down at the table and creates a callet this so there's a collaborative set of agreements about purpose based comp so they're they're they're more powerful than a nonprofit in a sense because they're not just one individual business and they're more powerful than just the market alone so we have the market in the nonprofits in the government in the civic organizations imagine putting all these people together in a commons where there's a very clear set of how we would lift all boats a very clear set of agreements a very clear set of tools that we're starting to develop in multiple currencies what we call currency constellation so you might have you might have a monetary currency you might have carbon and sized aronsen you might have time and you might so much fun it is right and these currency constellations would then be used to make decisions in this in this collaborative calm and that's the limps into how the new economy works and we're creating small little model small little crucibles of experiments with small groups but like i said with an eye toward scaling it with a new tools from the inner thank you so that gives us a big breath of what ther redefining the economy could look like for the future that would work for all and thank you because you mention that big breath in between consciousness and tools and that's huge spectrum that people can look upon but it's really happened so thank you thank