on the bass and business as it were bass business and mr kenge from portland on the drums you made up for the fabulous roof shakers here on a monday night at eighty you very much oh nominated well make a that's happening as you have a winning isn't it it's the story of our life well let's see barry sanders lead vocal and harp a limpia now seattle now seattle let's see joe and bruce you mad at larry's get the jam right here pioneer square they used to have it now it's a rock store but yes wednesday night jam was a happening for years and we got a monday night you know it's an adrenaline rush for you know i got to say i had my mother wasn't a musician but she was musical ok i remember her whistling in the kitchen whistling why she did things around the house and i started playing drums when i was and i fell and broke my leg and so i was the new kid in school so one of the things i wanted to do was learn how to play guitar and so my little bedroom all this time and my folks found one from one of their friends and let's get started shall we yes everybody wants to get started let's get started with our blues to do t v night and please welcome to the stage mr tom or ice on the upright stand right stand right up bass he stands on it actually  oh you motorhead yeah we like that so you brought your blues chops to to the punk world is that is that how you would you or the country or the how that works what i what  i think about it as you know tommy my older brother is a rocker through and through and what we really do is we get together now play a song form and it could be a straight up like traditional art robert johnson song you know and now it's home i go let's play you know like your ideas are what i want to hear you know i don't want to i don't want to force what i want you know from you guys because i interpretation and other people's ideas and i was trying to escape yes and then shut down well and improvisation is a life skill so you really put it out there you want to you want to play you want to play around with everything the rhythm i mean this everybody gets to trial you know stuff and go with it is your songwriting the same way or is it more of a inner process for you some going for me is definitely an inner process you know what usually happens you know is waters i heard that last one oh thank you very much what else inspires you who do you listen to all men i listen to a whole lot of stuff i really enjoy sam cooke right now for vocals and  next song you're probably see here a lot of different different things and i just like throughout the whole so that you know there's random bits and pieces you know and i really think about like the idea that everything you listen to comes out in your point eventually you know even if a melting pot all of your own little melting pot of music from whatever you hear and get exposed to so yeah this is a this is a great guitar you know yeah it's a it's a lobster six trains and every time started looking around like you tube and really it was like oh no no this is it's own thing you know and then i started thinking about like the advantages of having it on your lap and not not having frets and stuff like that and once again you know they did  so let's get some more show we all we got enough time for a little bit of a more song all right jeff hays we're going to talk to you another day extraordinary drummer and we're going to get him in here for a drummer boy show please put your hands together one more time another mini tell you