positioning your furniture or color design all of those things to write and nursing and comforting environment as your transition from not only divorced loss of a spell's empty nest syndrome anything like that and with me today as you know i always have another professional that can help us with that transitional process and today i have my friend with me i like i call her my friend her name is terry stengel from quantum floats and terry i'm going to let you first of all when we say how we met and i'll let you explain what floating is this is a really i did it by the way and i'll share my experience it was very interesting so terry on good morning  know you and i met actually through a business networking meeting out and one of the things that struck me when i met you is how you work with people in transition and in those important changes in their life because that's the kind of thing that brought me to start floating that's a lot of who we see coming into the float center that we have been button's to new jersey yeah and often times when people are going through those changes it's a time to take stock to look at what doesn't work and what does work so for you you're looking to get rid of the clutter right and i'm looking to get rid of the clutter in thinking and the chatter in their mind exactly and that's exactly that's why it was such a it was it was a great fit to have terry on because you're working with the internal and i'm working with the ex tarnal describe floating because you know when you when i first met you said floating i was i was picturing this claustrophobic of water and i was a little bit nervous and that is not what the experience was it was amazing i totally loved it i just floated with you a couple days ago and it was really wonderful so explain you know the they have over five hundred floats now the nice thing about the tank is it's like seven a half or eight feet long and it's maybe almost five feet tall so it's huge it is and as you have nine inches of water its skin temperature so you lose the sense of even where the water is and dissolved in that warm water is about nine hundred pounds of absence salt so it's way more than that copper to you throw in the bath yes that's very different and also  so it's quiet it's dark you're completely weightless and the temperature is neutral so all that normal stimulation that our brains are processing chattering about and talking that's gone yeah and that allows the body to really really relax and the brain amplifies very slow brain waves that we don't normally use are aware of during our day to day lives yet that's not our normal setting or and our normal environment and for me what i noticed was i what i am or i was going through a bit of a stressful time in coming into float i felt like it just gave me things put put more in a better perspective for me and you guys have to try this it's really cool and when i came out i just felt this we were chatting a little bit and i felt this very nice sense of calm and peace  still still having this thing and i guess reality but kind of flipping the switch is is that a good way to describe it that when your brain is amplifying those very slow brain waves it's like you're almost underneath where kind of the feelings in the emotions are so like i had a woman float a couple days ago and she said you know i thought about these things i normally think about but it was different yeah i could look at them i could kind of turn them over i could explore and it wasn't how i felt it was i was looking at what was real about it yes if you're looking from the outside in like we talked about looking you know coming from from inside i guess from inside out but it's almost like an out body experience when i say when i say it that way i sort of felt like i get what she was saying to you you're just very different and that's very unique and that's why i tell people you really need to experience yes you are just not that thing you can do  it was actually about eight years ago and i was at a point where i was looking at a career change yes you were telling me my mother had died recently and that always takes you you start reassessing priorities yes i think when that happens yes and then i knew that there were issues in my marriage that i needed to really look at and i kept pushing them off and pushing to the side and floating was it will along with some series of seminars that i did that allowed me to start sorting through what was and treasures are really very important to be able to to find and identify in your life a lot of times we take it they aren't we take for granted the things that we have and a good thing to do is to make a gratitude and every day write down what you've got grateful for but when you're going through a transition like that it's really helpful to float because like you said you're looking at it from the outside in to what the problem is and you can sort of see yeah you know what i have to get through this stuff and this is this is important in my life like for instance a career change for you you're feeling like you know i how long are you an attorney ok almost twenty wow ok and you almost went to princeton where and hey princeton you almost had  the university but you went to the university of michigan for law school ok all right anyway i think that's kind of cool we were actually talking about that on the way up here how beautiful princeton is and again again it's that relaxation driving here is really read decorate my interior more accurately reflects who i am and what i've been trying to express yet life so through through the summer if you could begin to look through what it might bring with me from from earlier times from earlier important to come from within and see what it is you can really take a harsh look at and what i like about floating is that i mean you take the harshness the way it's different from you know i'm a big believer  mental health i i go to therapy i think just like you go for a check up for physical you should have a mental checkup and i think this is just another another tool in your in your briefcase of mental health that you can implement besides you know going to therapy or meditating having floating in which for me i really honestly didn't know what it was and that was so i was so fascinated when i met you when you talked about it the first time and you explained it really did explain it so eloquently and it was very interesting to think oh wow there's another venue that i can take or or might perhaps my clients or perhaps you guys out there to investigate  and take that harshness away when i'm not even so much as a harshness i think there is also so i said oh tional layers and but where change actually happens it's in where our brains are deciding what's real right and that starts when we're really little yeah that's how the but it's a chance to sort of sort through what you put into place and then to figure out what is maybe the best you could do when you were three and what is more real what's more willing that the world now that you know better and you're in it at our age which we're pretty much the same age our fabulous look at us fifteen we're pretty cool it was so what percentage would you say are divorced divorced men and or women oh do you think i think her come out of the float and just be calmer ready to go back to the kids and all of the logistics and of the courtroom stuff and take a look at the reality of it and also to realize that that reality was something she was creating in a young  young man the other day you know he was looking at where he's been afraid to be in a relationship so it's just as important you know we are going from we to me or me to we it's a good idea quantum flowed center and and taking stock in that and you know it was funny doing what i do helping people create a nourishing comforting space here's what i liked about this is what i want to say so what i liked about floating and i didn't realize there was to me an extra added bonus so i got in there and i also want to mention there's no lock on the door so if you you would like to get locked in or you're you're going to drown none of that's happening you're floating like dead sea there's no lock you what's kind of cool is there's even a light around the rim of the door which kind of if you do open your eyes you kind of know oh you know that's that's where the exit is but what i thought was really interesting being a person of of the citizens of it being a person bring a person of blue color i'm going to talk about the color blue you're wearing it which is very interesting and what i noticed is after i was done with the float and i am all about color color color color color has any media motional impact on you and it can impact you physiologically which is scientifically proven i have said it over and over again so when i was done with the float there was this this really cool soft blue light that goes on to let you know you need to you know get the hell out of there now in it's time your float is over and what happened was i was in there and the light illuminated and it was this soft blue just i ended up not coming out right away just sat there i sat up because it's there's a lot of space and i just enjoyed that soft blue hue and what blue does for people and it literally scientifically proven to lower your blood pressure decrease your respiration and all of that was happening with the floating but i felt like i got this extra added bonus of like color therapy almost you know it was almost i don't know how to explain it i'm just so tuned into color and i noticed it right away and it could have been a warm kind of wind been a warm bulb it could have been something that had a yellow hue or an orange hue which would would have changed the mood of what i had experience because yellows and oranges are stimulating and they're bright and sunny just just that's why things in nature of the color they are so yellow and orange are more invigorating like orange juice in the sunshine but having the blue calm of like say the ocean in the sky kind of married if you will with the experience of floating and i don't know if anyone's ever said that to you before jodi it sounds like you were really so i have lights in the you know what really slows you down is that there is no light and exactly what is interesting is sometimes when you come back for the float you can have almost as height no awareness sensory awareness because then so slow down it's like you're very aware of the sensory input and that's what i felt happened to me i was very well i like i said i'm so colors my life you know about color all the time but i was even extra sensitive to that beautiful blue hue and i felt i felt so relaxed it was like i the floating did what it was supposed to do but i felt like it was another gift that you that you gave me by allowing me coming to come in flow so i like i said i don't know if other people have mentioned that to you but that was that was just one more cool thing that i saw happen besides not not sure building up but it was really funny that you mention that because of the salt and i also want to mention like the different kinds of transitions because as you were saying you see people in different  transitions in your work and we have people where they have lost someone they are only could enhance ocean we have people where the empty nesters where the kids on the moms are like now who am i what do i do with my life where am i going what do i do with my life and what do i do with my address both you have guys who maybe they did the whole wall street thing that collapsed and now they're reinventing themselves people in publishing the whole publishing industry has changed yes it has so you know folks that are having to sort of regroup about what they're about what they're trying to do and can they what they want to take with them i mean we're here in princeton with einstein right i know i love that even if there was a meal on the side on the wall so einstein's a very famous thing about that you please forgive me but you know what we're talking about so i guess that's very much the case here is that by taking a look at what's going on in those deeper levels you have a chance to say ok i got into that marriage i got into the situation with one set of thinking right what is it that i want to take with me where or where do i want to use that same set how can i clear that out so that that becomes a tool for that because you're able to look at it from a very different vantage than chattering away yeah i know when people are stressed they talk to themselves about they do they get out of your own way and when you say take what to you know what to take with you and what to not that's interesting that that is a phrase you use because i use that with my clients when i say to them when they're going from their say their marital house to the now they're going to their new post marital stace or they're downsizing or they're reclaiming their their current space and making it their own reinventing themselves and reclaiming what's theirs i often look at you're looking at what's what to take with you from inside i'm looking what to take with you from the outside so another words do you want to take your marital bed bedroom set with you to your new space  might not be the the best thing you would want in your new space maybe it will remind you of you know the marriage that you no longer have or failure or something negative but you may want to take with you some your child's favorite piece of artwork that you framed or your grandmother's chair that you really upholstered but you don't want to take maybe the anniversary vase with you so you want i both talk about what we could take with us and what not to take with us right and part of why you do what you do also repurposing and so when i when we like through some of the mental art some of our it isn't like everything's all bad or good like you know what there's a few things that you brought maybe from childhood memories you're not good enough or maybe that you have to be in control whatever that didn't work so well in that earlier life so maybe there's a way instead of like completely throwing it out maybe you can kind of repulsed or it may be kind of ok and yes so it actually works better or maybe you can say you know what i wanted to see through that window and work better with this kind of a window covering than those big dark blind as that you know that i really really need to have to see through the window we are so full of metaphors you and i it's scary this is what happens when two smart women get together and spend an hour driving to princeton and looking at the view but it is it gives you it it really gives you pause to think and reflect and again reflect and reflect about your your past reflect about what the future looks like for you and again you know what i say to people as well to a reflection is another important thing from a physical point of view to having a reflective surface in your house brings movement and and highlights the things in your room so that your rooms are not stagnant and boring so when you have things that are reflective like the glass and ceramic and granite and c metallic fabric it takes your mind around the the room and it helps you flow and bring life into a space and i feel like that when i was floating i kind of got that that same feeling that i get when space what was really fascinating thing about the tank is anything that happens in there what you think about what you feel it's because it's coming from your internal because there's nothing there but you you know and that's why it's a blank screen and a lot of ways what happens there's a days there's kind of like l this of having this sensation it's like all fantasy in trouble yeah sometimes people say you know my going to see things in the tank and i say you know you see things all the time you know we don't we don't always see what's in front of us oh oftentimes you still turn to you know so focused on the door that close we don't see the open ones behind us i'm sure you've seen people who work where they don't even see that clutter they don't see the bent the magazine stack but they don't feel well and they don't know why and they feel like we talked about the clutter your space and the chatter in your mind it's the same thing they don't understand why they they're uncomfortable in a room you've seen my work so you know that i am very you know id clutter everything because i say all the time a clutter space is a clutter mind well you're saying the same exact thing from a different perspective we have the same philosophy and it what's great is that as people begin to express more who they are and probably there's a transitional time when you're coming out of that divorce as they become more and more of who they are and continue to clear out that may know we always do continue to evolve because we are right it is a journey we you and i talked about it that we're always on a journey and if we were to stop now that would be pretty boring but this is a great way to  exactly it is it is kind of an interesting experience not kind of it was for me personally a really interesting experience and i even purchased as a gift for my fiance and myself to go back and i think he's going to love it because he has a very crazy busy you know exciting life but there's like you said chatter chatter everywhere and i think when you're very focused person this is really especially a hairdryer so they can have a nice float and go out to dinner yet it's fairly and it often makes for some very interesting conversations for why didn't you tell me or your partner in kwan flubs say that valentine's day was your busiest day we were i see guys and ladies this would be a really great gift to give somebody if you're good if you're going from we to me it's a really good thing to do and if you're going for me to we it's a really good thing to do it's just super important to try to take care of your xterm know when you're internal there are so many ways to do that and i thought by having you walk on and explaining it that this was just such a unique a unique experience and a unique thing to offer people because i don't think like do people think of floating they think oh i'm distressed i'm going to go out for a run or i'm going to go to the gym and that's fabulous i do all of that stuff but the flow it's you know there's nothing nothing you really do there's nothing like it and  really like it's something you're checking out it's like you said you're digging deep and you're going underneath what's happening and it's a it's just a very cathartic and you know and it's a fairly it's a little different because i don't know if you've ever meditated people often notice where you're working are actually somewhat the most productive folks because you are relaxed but a lot of stuff to come up and like i was talking about the young man that came in a flood of yesterday and he came out and said you know what i just realized some places where i've been lying to myself and you know that's a really important it's a really important thing to to take a look at is if you're if you're you're not facing the truth why are you running from something or running to something is a very interesting question to pose i just i just so delighted that you could be here and i can't we're almost i can't believe we're almost out of time i told you it goes very quickly and i like the idea that it is a unique way to relax it's another tool to put in your tool box to feel better about yourself whether you're wherever you're going from we demean me to we loss of a spell's empty nest syndrome all of the things that people go through relocation a career change a relationship change whatever it is it's really very unique so i don't know if you know this terry but the way i end my show is that i i dedicate a shoe because i'm all about the shoes but you don't wear shoes in the can as a metaphor you don't have to wear shoes but i like to tell my viewers that it's and it's very important that your space be comfortable reflects your personal style and fits you well like your favorite pair of kick ass shoes and terry these shoes are for you and i'll tell you why these  platforms ok and the reason why this platform shoe is in honor of quantum float floats is because you provide a platform another platform for people to relax and chill so this is to you terry  our phone number is nine seven three seven eight two three two two seven and if you're interested in learning more about the summoner's check out our middle arts network dot com thank and of course you know how to find me weed to me w e the number two am eat dot com and my number is nine seven three nine eight five four three eight six give either one of us or both of us a call if you need to  create reinvent yourself and create a new way of looking at things so thank you so much for joining me and i will see you next time and terry thanks again thanks