campbell and janet stern and tonight we're going to throw out our regular format and we're going to do something a little different normally we talk about one or two movies and depth tonight we're going to be talking about a number of films maybe free very for maybe seven we'll say we'll see how it goes that have been critically acclaimed throughout the year and have gotten have gone myriad award nomination but have not we haven't had time to do a entire show on so let's start by talking about jackie and general i believe you've seen jack i did yeah and marilyn yes you have seen  summary of the film so this is a i believe the chilean director what do you think attracted him to this subject matter because it's so american that such a intricate part of our history of my childhood and all of our childhoods i think he was probably i don't know that american director could have done this because we are so as marilyn reference were s our childhood we don't know how to think about it differently but he came in as an outsider although most of you could say there's a tinge of melodrama a little bit of no drama little bit of she's basically in this film she is sly but she's shy she's both and she has a steeliness that is prompting her to create j legacy within days after the assassination and so you see a determination to do things to make j f k be the inheritor of the lincoln legacy the way lincoln's coffin went down the middle that's what's going to happen with this the she wants people around the world to see this as camel up as the end of camelot that was actually her invention he liked the music j f k but she invented this as a fantasy and i think that there's almost a surreal quality to this because she's just had this man's head in her lap which is practically blown off now she has to move out of the white house within days i mean this is a trauma that is unimaginable and  it was kind of a character study but but as jared said the character study of someone who is and the magic but you can't really pin down or really know what he's thinking because she is constantly learning how to how to project an image and that was what she thought what she wanted to do at this traumatic time in her life is figure out a way to make a very short administration really it was three quarters of a term right seem historically important seem well for her husband in that respect she did a good job she did a great job  and i think will again what janet said about being an outsider i never realized at the time because of course it's very traumatic for all americans as well how much that it was stage managed it just seems like oh this is the way a president has happened with and it happened you know f d r died in war time not that i was alive at that time but when i i i just thought it was yes this is this is a ritual that happened without realizing that in fact she had made up that scenario she had made up the ritual well she did as hearken back to lincoln with the horse with the boots environment you can never imagine happening again really in fact in the in this and i don't know if it's true they keep the shooting of oswald from her which was what was shot by jack ruby they don't tell or they don't want to tell her and then she's furious when she finds out it was also i don't know if any of this really happened you know we don't really know but i can't we can't end this discussion without talking about natalie portman yes she is astonishing and i called myself throughout but in order biography by amy oh it was a very famous israeli novelist but it's his mother was clinically depressed something they didn't know at the time which was the late forty's early fifty's they just thought she was sad and that perhaps she should snap out of it and he's he said you know if they'd had prozac at the time his mother would be alive because eventually she committed suicide she wrote direct science fiction tales that actually has some substance in terms of how how do we communicate out of people what's the basis of communication if we were to have an encounter with an alien  go about even knowing what they wanted or how we would convey that to them and she is a scientist who called in to decode or decipher what it is this these beings are who are communicating if it is communication and it's a it's a very powerful study of that but also of her personal relationships as she goes through the process the relationships and the  to fight with the powers that be who are afraid that she probably these people are up to no good and we can't always believe what she's telling us they say it seems like only movies can be defined to whine that there are saviors that right which is also really interesting so i mean trends are going to these interesting how how how is communication established when you have no common ground whatsoever and the other is is time just going forward or yeah it the physics of it is very interesting and you can get a little lost at times because the flashbacks and forwards you're not sure whether this is a remembrance or with it's actually  like any spaceship you've ever seen before that once you get inside the spaceship which they do it's hard to tell what's up and what's down it's it it's just visually she lives in a glass on let's talk about florence foster jenkins which is a movie that was released earlier in the year in america it was released over the summer and but you know it got a couple of golden globe nominations for meryl streep and berg yes we should say that we're having this taping the show before the streep's very good i don't know did you fink did you stop thinking it was meryl streep all right i have a question for bob perhaps meryl streep was actually trained as a singer when she was yes actually i mean meryl streep is always good i mean what can you say about meryl streep but i love to grand i've always loved to grant and after you know he would play the pretty boy good both that was so perfect he took our wonderful care of her he did and he loved her so much it was a love story in many ways interesting lee a french version of this came out at just the same time it was not marguerite i mean it's the same story but we didn't get that here hall plays him is right it's supposedly writing a novel which she dedicates to her and she treated him terribly but you see what happens in that novel unfolding and it's awful it's awful it's very violent  similar sort of nomadic life central steps and she lives in a yurt and she and her the tradition in this area is to hunt is to tame a golden eagle by taking it out of the nest before didn't have a fly and training it to be like a falcon short and to hunt with it and to hunt further animals in fact so which they use for clothing and tents and under the fur cap but what she does that i found so remarkable what they all do in this tradition is you keep your arm out like this you've got a fifteen pound ego on your harm twenty pounds in her case they said it was fifteen six or eight years yeah children over the over the hundred or so who were most of whom went to the almost you see that was a problem with the film i thought right there you knew it ahead of time that she would be a we know there is a tremendously easy path for her seems from the day she takes a siegel and is starting to be trained and all of a sudden she's at the contest what happened in that year is possibly she got a lot of extra training we don't know that we don't know if it was know how many other contests there were in the meantime she may have been in contests that she didn't do well and you know now we don't see an annual yes i know but there might have been look real no other you know the fact that he didn't reach well in national slack how do you have any idea how they discovered this girl how the documentary filmmakers came across the subject i think that they had done other films this was crew had done five year old boy in india from a very small village who manages to get himself on the un commission train by himself he gets apparently children run free in india they don't you know they're not so well as they are here and he gets on this train he ends up in calcutta which is like you know a thousand miles away and he's so young he can't even say the name of his village correctly so he ends up abandoned in calcutta and around for weeks with you know just trying to make trying to make things that this is i think the saddest part of the movie well it's also i we have to say a lot of if you look at the trailers you think that but he gets adopted i love what that's what i don't get how is it with all of the street kids in india and the runaways and everything else and the abandon how does he get up to luck of the draw he was lucky really it's just luck i if they seem to have some sort of system because once you got in the orphanage they did try to trace down his parents but his parents are literate they're living in the willage only had one parent one parent thousand miles away he doesn't even know the name s is that when this boy the other scenes who after the boy grows up and he has met starts having memories of what happened before he was adopted and he wants to try to track down his mother his brother why is it called lion y he's good but since there was this little kid this somewhat stretched his acting muscles beyond those sort of lighter comedies that he has been but he isn't the heart of the movie the heart of the movie i a little boy wandering around calcutta trying to make his way when you have a lot of not shave you that impression no no no and that's very distressing to watch this and then at the end of the movie they tell you i don't know twenty thousand kids a year are lost in india and so it's you know it's a big problem well guys i say we're almost finished can i just recommend that everyone see thirteenth