from los angeles california here is that which is from john rogers that which is is presented by m s i the movement of spiritual inner awareness a movement dedicated to awakening the spiritual arc within each of us john roger is the founder and spiritual advisor of m s i the founder and president of the institute for individual and world peace and other organizations for the purpose of improving people's lives john rogers a bestselling author and he has been teaching and conducting seminars for many years this seminars  title revelations on the inner master right after john rogers speaks will tell you how you can obtain more information about the movement if you seminars you go i quoted something from the bible there well wasn't he rues it was flippy ans well i like to do is just the region that part that i've quoted explaining of how to live in moderation and it was chapter four verse four rejoice in the lord always and again i say rejoice let your moderation be known and to all men the lord is at hand be careful for nothing but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known  god and the peace of god which passes all understanding shall keep your hearts and minds to christ jesus that was the part i talked about all evening i could have read it faster and we could go on on something else but when you're making the stuff up as you go along it takes a while longer so while i had the book in hand i thought i would just give it a fast run through about like that enough i got rid of most of the syndromes though you know like where's the money i just made ten thousand words some more money course you don't have to be jewish to do that kenya your body you know it was interesting because i was reading through the book of revelations which was no revelation well i know what it says i mean basically it says watch out you come to some people of you know we've talked about the mystical traveler and haven't talked too much about the inner master part of it you know that resides inside of you so i thought tonight i would reveal a little bit to you about it i don't like to do too much because there are certain people in the movement who then take this information and pervert it to their own financial gain and it's really not nice to do that and they'll get away with all sorts of things they fabricate do exist and so badly that they would know the truth of it if it flew by and dumped on their h and you know they have a right to do that certainly but that really brings spiritual karma to parade the spirit in terms of names and hierarchy to your own consciousness when you don't have it it just be pretty bad and couplers people are really building some karma and they have a right to do it of course a lot of people say to me well why don't you why don't you tell them the in there is says well she would go and rip up all the the tears it was like no because to rip them up you might also rip up the wheat which are growing so what we do is we let them all grow to a certain height and then we'll go and w is actually using them in some sense of the word to bring the message of like god love to people but at the same time they're sawing off a lot of this o the road tracks where trains coming he didn't hear that this  the as one of those garden of weeden jokes stay with the folks are coming here i mean the book of revelation but some people try to claim that the inner master and you know it's like you think of me and i'll come to you in the sleep state now help you they can do that i mean excuse me that's an inexact a too they can't they would really love to be able to do that though and that's nice and they like to see themselves doing that and that's nice but a hallucination spread by any other drug is hallucination and maybe they're on something they shouldn't be on and it's probably an ego trip but people said are there any descriptions of the inner master in terms of any of these sacred scriptures and i said sure i thought oh my did i say that i can't quote them scripture in verse so one day i was picking up my bible to move and dust it off and it fell out of my hands on the floor and there's a bigger was  i picked up my book of revelation and i said in here certainly there must be some description somewhat of the inner master and so just doesn't seem like the same book will never know you people read the bible to see what a says i found out my big bible though had a mistake at one place news says and lean on me and they change the word assist or learn on me and i thought oh what a great  because you'd hope that you would learn ok this is chapter one verse ten i was in the spirit on the lord's day course as credit obvious of the purse was in the inner body traveling  says and i turned to see the voices speaking to me and being turned i saw seven golden candlesticks and in the midst of the seven candle sticks one likened to the son of ma clothed with a garment down to the foot girth about the paps with the golden girdle his head and his hairs were white like war as white as snow is eyes were as a flame of fire and his feet like him to find brass as if they were burned in a furnace and his voice is the sound of many waters and he had in his right hand seven stars and out of his mouth when a sharp two edged sword and his countenance was a sun shining in his strength and when i saw him i felt his feet is dead and he laid his right hand upon the same and to me fear not i am the first in the last right here descriptions of travelling to the moon round the lightning world the star worlds and the astral body seen the radiant form of the master the uniform which may or may not look like an outer form and then upon that particular time the revelations are given that's as bad as accurate as descriptions are going to get of the inner master other than maybe a purple ball a flash or purple lie but i think this is much more descriptive of the jewish people weren't at a loss for words when they were doing this particular thing and i happen to be in first john four four boils down to is that part of us that is the spiritual part in us is by far greater than anything that comes into the physical world and you can take any avatar or god form in the physical world so we're talking about a great nurse the will surpass that will transcend verbal recognition emotional qualification and there's not too much you can do and i think this is part of the reason as well as having a soul being the soul that innately winning without reason without any good reason we resist and we resent anyone having any authority over set any time is because we have that absolute and power and yet if your young child that you run to the world is able to resist your authority as a parent and you cannot teach that child in the way of this life which is the discipline of this life then you've lost the child plus that promise of bringing the child up you know to walk in the path of spirit of love and light happiness so we have to be careful that we do not assume we are that inner master in a state of assumption like well i just assume i am and that would make it that way doesn't work quite like that it be like assuming i'm a millionaire and i got out here in the chair with me and so we look and it's not there it's like well but i own all things so therefore i a millionaire is like well that's understandable on that level what we call the macro consciousness and when we are in that  totally and when we are anywhere less than that then we pick up the lesser qualifications of the statement to we come down the micro and then the macro looked at as a far distant thing and the micro becomes where we are now as the state of separation but even in this there is only just one substance that is all we call the ethers more of scientific terms and spirit in terms of religion and spirit vocabulary that is cohesive and binding to all things and in that spirit has extended itself forward t the god form as an organizational effort and give itself to god the chance to experience and express itself it's quite obvious to most all of us that some of our most dynamic experiences are inside of us in terms of wishful thinking or fantasizing or whatever and then often the physical world just doesn't measure up to that expectation level of what we have built up inside to be it's never going to because that inside of us is the creative power of spirit and we are gods in that creativity and we have access to that power they are not here and if we can keep in our consciousness you know very distinctly separated the different values of these spiritual levels in the laws that govern them we start actually living a very enchanters life that doesn't mean that we might not turn our ankle or get a headache or have to pay car payments or or whatever doesn't mean that those are laws of this level and they apply universally and equally you may think you're exempt from cancer and have a stroke you may think you're exempt from poverty but you have to keep everybody working to get the money to keep paying the help to keep you going and so you're actually the slave to all of your labors and all of your wealth to keep it going and so we're not exempt in terms of poverty or in terms of wealth it really does equal itself out in almost every level we can think about even the injustices of physical disability levels itself out in terms of other qualities and spiritual essences that we have not is always that readily obvious because we don't want to look to another story to tell us what it is i want to do it my way so we say well what is your you don't know your way and you don't know my way you may find out that it's both of our ways because we have to go through your dumbness which is your way to get to the spirit which is the way we're doing it now is not the physical bodies way you know the way of the physical body is corruption and decay i think everybody's pretty well got that defined if you don't think that's too true or drive down to the local cemeteries and you take a look you find out there's a lot of truth in the statement it's what we call a functional reality actually death is just avoiding relationship with life you've given up that relationship and you say i just don't care to participate there anymore with that particular form of energy now strides that may seem if you think about it for a while in terms of taking emotions from de then that makes a lot of sense that quality that is the soul is separate in that quality that is the in a masters in its discussion in its macro there are no separations and there are no differences and when we finally all of us get to that one place that is the macro totality we will all be god in that form we're not dealing with that because that's not where we find ourselves at this particular moment we find ourself in the microscopic approach to it and in this god then has manifested itself as a very special form and is run extension to all levels of creation and maintain that is like an iron rod or the rod of power and that rod of power is in essence what we call the inner master it is indeed truly an all knowing all compazine all total loving force field that knows the intimacy of your beingness like the dirt in your fingernails but also in all of its wisdom realizes the functional reality of so experience and that it is gaining that to your dabbling consciously in this world and stands back as a benign father if you will when i use the word he i am also referring to she and it and neuter at all times so if i say god he was saying god she got it god nothing but just for sake of pronoun or pronunciation here when you speak of something as as you would like a savior jesus christ or a buddha or an avatar then you use a capital age to say i'm talking about a very specific divine essence that manifested itself but we speak of god  it isn't necessary to do that the even if you capitalized you haven't done anything because you still don't know what it is because it's in a totality that you cannot participate in from michael levels in the micro level since this inner form this master form that can be whatever it wishes to be at any particular time in space and distance to the voter reads the mystical traveler it will look awful like this physical body often or will look like that that we have described it in terms of color raise an energy when you're dealing with people who are following the christian hari then it may appear as a guy with blue legs and a flute and blue arms and maybe a blue face or something else in terms of them in terms of god not being a dummy only god can be all things to all people all the time inner master is that form and in essence it separates and forms the density level with you inside of you as something that is cognitively real with you not a hallucination but something that you can talk to that you can ask questions of that you can love that you can adore that you can feel that you can ignore that you can yell at and criticize and it just shine john all the time because it knows the ultimates that you're dealing with and keeps the ultimate present in the michael consciousness that you're in so you never lose track truly of the vision you will purposefully and responsibly turn from the spirit from a traveler and enter into darkness and you are doing that willfully as a process of your way now you really can't fault that because there is that consciousness of willfulness and maybe won't foreigners when we will do this and we won't do that for whatever reason we we deem reasonable but the whole field of play here just god playing with god playing all the roles but we have not had that experience we can mold level let's say to ourselves put on tape and play back to ourself and we may be able to hypnotize ourself to some extent to that validity and we may be able to have other people doris to some extent to maybe convince us that that might possibly be so and we may even set ourselves up and advertise ourselves by flyers that we can do all that  attempt to reach into it but the matter of fact is most of these things are just nonsense and so that has been called the metaphysical the psychic has really had great disrepute it's almost like oh god another the prime order anything that is in that i handle ninety percent anything is not that ten percent and you handle course having that inner master quality than you able to handle a whole heck of a lot of things within the force field of that person's consciousness to make it all appear as a very natural or what we call supernaturally natural that at some point you say yes why not that's the way it is not the way i thought it was not the way they told me it was but that is it naturally would work that way and every time you do it that way it appears like that and it works like that and you find a profound sense of freedom a very profound sense any ending or any beginning is a continue form that is formless and formulates according to your despair or to your agony people come to me and a person came in the other night said oh god jr really blew it again and i said this this to us and they looked at me sort of like smile a bit like geez what a profound statement to return i really brought it like i'm going to jail my you know my life plan is over and i said well what is it that you want of me he said i guess i want assurance that their thing is going to be all right i said but it's not we said ok i can handle that he said how bad will it get i said how bad can you imagine that it will get oh god i can i said you probably won't he said what i want to think i get us oh i doubt if you go the eighteen months this is how come i said well because you're probably going to be on very good behavior wanting to get you're renting of the everything in ash cloud they said yeah and i said they don't count that in court as punishment he looked at me star say you think this is hilarious don't you nice it happening to you he said well i don't know whether to get insulted or what i said why don't you just get insulted once you get a solid month you get upset once you get nervous why don't you do all sorts of things is what i do i thought then i said the same thing you're doing with all this other stuff nothing nothing he said what are you one know as will be with me i said have my always been with you said yeah i said what makes you think that i'm going to not be with you now he says well there's a while there where i just didn't feel you i didn't see you we didn't communicate we didn't talk and i said was that when you're really healthy and wealthy and happy and everything was going your way and you're helping a lot of people and god was in heaven and the kingdom of heaven was a hand he said john i said what did you need me for when all that was going so great i was i don't have to bug my head with you as a but what about before when you went to prison you said you're there all the time  a wake up you're there a good sleep you're there so if you weren't there he said i would have made it through suggest you would of was like what i said yes you would have made it too because all we did was just  that determination inside of you to go through it he said that's right i said now you didn't learn the lesson you did a similar type of thing and it was repeating itself said any way out yeah yeah he says what's and i said well for the next two or three months before you go to trial you should spend every moment you possibly have building up  you should just be sandbagging because very frankly when we got you off on the other things so easy we used a lot of your light units that were in reserve you don't have too many and you haven't really been doing very many spiritual exercises i said and what we've got to decide now which will decide the day of sentencing or moment before them is if we can bring forward all the rest you light units and have the judges pleasure on probation and that means you're down to zero reservoir and have you gotten eighteen months and have a lot more going for you after that he's got the choices a little bit beyond and i did and i said you wouldn't be here telling me all this if you didn't already know that he says you're the only one i can tell you're the only one i can tell all this to i said mere waste my time because i already knew what else do you want he was like well that's he's not there alone here being this group is in there in some essence in some form everybody who goes to prison to serve time is in confinement we're in there with them in some essence in some form it's like no man is an island no man stands alone each man's joy is joy to me and each man's grief is his own but that's not quite true their grief azhar grief also but also we can use every advantage to make that context wrong with our inner master form who resides you with you in a totality of all and a lot of people that i know pretty well in this lifetime as much as that we've been good friends and we can sit down and eat together and spend hours talking i've found out the course of conversation i know what they do in their spare time and what they're talking about and working with you all the time and that that happened to you is purposefully for you to strengthen you for the next thing that's coming up that if you don't have this you will not be strong enough and you will fail and so this so called adversity turned out to be one of are we just at the sort like giggling with each other like god here we are deciding the whole future of the human race based upon his concept of it and i'm sitting there laughing about it saying would you hurry up i got out of the people hurry up hurry up get your point get your point move there the inner master is absolutely patient this outer form here that manifests as a mystical traveler doesn't have all that why we often only have four people you'd see in front of patients i remember listening to some people when we were back in india if we have four if i was in a group and they're each one you just take them in turn but this man was trying to be all things to all people in the physical now that's absurd and to show the absurdity of it those of us that ha private interviews thought he was mag those who thought they should have private interviews who didn't that it wasn't quite so hard those who were sitting way back who didn't get close thought it was a those who had said ahead for appointments because they were great spiritual leaders so he could set a time for them when they got the answer no they call him a fraud and the persons exactly who they are in all the name calling and all of the name makes no difference it is what is there that makes the difference last night we talked about the thing that is what it is  over there and the dogs killed those out i said i don't know what you put around them that you called a fence but the fence i'm talking about will keep them out of there and that's the fence that i want buil not your idea one last ring of wire and collar the fence i want that that is going to do it and if you want to know if it's done let one of the dogs out to see and if it doesn't work back to the drafting board the words it has to be done in terms of it working not in terms of us saying that's enough i built the fence two bricks high but that's high enough and i was  thinking back years ago the first time i had the experience with that in the in the what they used to call the local drug store that time they didn't sell drugs well maybe i was too young to know but it was where they have the counters  the ice cream and what do they call these fountains of fish was the other thing a fellow was in there after a dance with this girl he was really trying to show off to her he was like a senior in high school and i was like a tenth grader and she was jazzy looking and i reason i know this because i was thinking what a lucky guy and look who he's with us and i was like really paying attention to see how does he handle himself that he can rope this one so i was really like pretty close like leaning into her you know there's a big crowd is very unobtrusive that i could do that and she said to her boyfriend very lovingly she said oh i would like to have some more syrup on my ice cream sunday he says sure baby he turns around to the girl he says can we get some more syrup on the sunday and the waitress said no you've got enough she looked at him and she said you're right i've had enough and walked out but i went the next day to go i says hey what was in you i knew or she was in the high school this is what was in you that you wouldn't do that i says that was very poor public relations he said well she goes to another school she's dating a boy from our school and i said the boy you've got a crush on said that's beyond the point i said no i think that's precisely the point the point is is that you thought it should be one way and it wasn't and you were going to make a b that way at the expense of everything else was very interesting because the fellow told the boss about that and she was fired the next day he just laid it out to that he was tell me said the bot the boss was a good friend of the family said he said what would you have done had you been behind the counter and i said ok i'll be five cents more here some syrup pieces would you like to work  i said no not especially no that's not what i'm after but it was that first moment where you as an individual decide you're supreme authority and nobody else can get anything from you and you said up and you're going to ram through on him no matter what and i have seen this take place in hospitals i've been there were persons can have a drink of water and the nurses know and i looked at the charts and do the same thing or the doctor said make sure they don't have any water and i've asked the doctor they done would be ok if they had to are so sure so why would the nurse do that he said well some of these nurses won't do anything that they don't want to do and i said well why are the nurse he says that's the question and he looked at me and i said i don't have the answer he said what did you do i said i think of any water he said why i said because i don't know what the order said sometimes you're not supposed to do things but when it's like even steven and it's not going to hurt in the person is lying there that's us there and i really felt for the first moment the paying net patient so you got even if i could just put my mouth to spit it out and just get rid of the cotton you ever experience that and that milk of human kindness these little things when we think it's enough we should do a little bit more as we say one more for the road that little bit more just that little bit more and you're going into perfection at that moment no one is going to give  thirty over you because you're exercising the supreme rights of everybody your honest to god taking care of god's business as god to god believe liberte the light units like that rack up in a hurry the difficulty was my thinking about doing it my feelings about doing it and what would happen to me in the process of doing it myself how do you know all that they said well i didn't and why didn't you just do that and find out you understand the simplicity of life and the beauty of we have a guide inside of us the great council of the guiding light god is the supreme manifestation in essence working in us as us pulling the separation of consciousness away from polarization to the world back into the spirit of self at that moment you not go find out that anybody did anything for you you're just finding out that the smart part of  i can travel as that film was that form and that life i know that i can do that i have demonstrated that enough we've been working on moving for a good many years now there's a lot of people has been here for how many of you been here at least say two years raise your hands and we be at least three four five six you still talk about these people around testing checking testing checking but we would like to believe we would like to believe that there are dumber than me and i know real fast that this isn't working and all these people here are six years dummies and they don't know and they'll never know and that's one of the biggest lies we tell ourselves we might want to say hey you know that person's been around a long time i think i'll just see what's going on i remember years ago in the seminar a lady came in and we're doing contributions with it see the a few things and she came in she says my name so and so and i'm here tonight to find out what it's all about and i looked i said good luck as you all know why i says i've been out for a lot of years and i'm still trying to find out what it's all about there's no way all can be found out and one evening and if she could she could have found out before then why was she there see we enter into this dance that is so inharmonious with the loving us that we are and yet the very nature of our life has often been be trailered let down and hurt feelings only because we are sending out the creative power let it take place it was working when the staff members writing a letter you got a letter from a relative and he wrote you and later on he said would you like to read this now it is a matter of like i took it like would you read it so i read it i was like ok this is i'm going to answer it it's like fine and i don't know how long but let's just exaggerate say hours later came back to me said can i show you what i've done i'm really having a hard time there's maybe like a great but it was a thing of like hey i want to show you something how to do this first of all i read the letters a stranger so i didn't give my motions into letter to have it beat me in the head and i read the intent of the letter only on the word level he said this and this and this thinking i was going to do this wang going to do that you just said this and this and this and i'm saying this and this and this that handles that they say well but what i really no what i said i really detached keeping the love for her present inside of me as i answered the letter but i answered the letter to the letter and so there's both the statement of fact the fun of what's going on but the love that pervades it we can do this all the time but instantly now you should see the letters that i ripped up through the wastebasket but i did some smart copy down a special little notebook he says of have to have ever have to write another letter i got reference points in here and this is what we need our reference point and if we can get him in the world that can assist as the component to that that's great and that's why we're all around all of us around the we are reference points to people miss world of how not to do plus and how to do how not to love and how to love how to be one with people and how to feel separated from people and it's there and we come to the inequality we get lost because we've said so often in dialogue with somebody they'll do this now do then they'll say this now say that and then this and pretty soon you're sweating with perspiration the fight you just had with them in your head a physical fight and there's nobody present no wonder you're exhausted you fall over nothing i mean absolutely nothing there is nothing there except your so we must find those in a reference points and yes it would be delightfully wonderful if we could all walk through the doors of the ashram this beautiful sanctuary of god and open up into the beautiful thing that we are and maintain that but do you honest to god think the world would put up with you do and while one wild moment thing that they're going let you prayed out there as the beautiful purple rose perfume but they're not going to let you be what you are and we know that and that's why we don't have that golden age out in this world but it is an amazing we come into a place of living love where we have that travel consciousness present who is a direct contact right verily into the heart of god exactly and people come and talk to this form sure because you have talking to something in the travel back in there listens and uses these eyes and these ears and this mouth as you talk you were talking directly right to central and the answer comes back out to you for you in that moment and it doesn't seem to matter what the words are but the essence of spirit comes rushing to like a wild hurricane you say my god i've been turned every way but with my life is opening all the things that i ever would want my wildest imagination it's happening and been changed in would lead to a direct revelation of my spirit our director of elation that i can't say it doesn't exist and i can it's hypnosis because it's going on and when i go to sleep it goes arm and i wake up it goes on and it's going on and it's going on and for the last forty years nothing happened course my attitude is like we're doing things about by something is sure and that's why i'm here but also because of the level of our conditioning and believe that we are conditioned here we could call it sinful because we're so restricted and once me once was oh i'm not restricted it's like you would know the truth no matter what happened my mother used to say you little heathen i never knew what he even was but sort of like ok you know i kn she called me a lot of things when she called me and i said you know you're really just talking about yourself she said we'll have no more of that talk i said from me or you she just thought about it for a while i was told my da well you know what she said is you little son of a bitch and my dad came home so that little bastard and i said you know you should say things like that because you're really talking about yourself it gave me was a swift kick right in the posterior there was loving though because when i went out of the room i heard them just laughing to see what we're going to do with this four year old kid but remember the humor the love of it and there are times during the day where you'll feel this rosy glow come on you think god something feels so good that's the traveler that is the inner master same we're ready we're just like let that bag talk that bells like do it yourself i'm not a slave you're the slave you're in conditioned energy it's like what could you do it's like my dog play the game do spiritual exercises and while they're busy doing spiritual exercises the bags moved the barges loaded the see when that happens like when you in addition to the cooperation that we are all equal authority is with each other and then we should only have that one thing in common with us that whoever speaks the tru that is what we're after i tell you right now if you're a follower of the truth then you are undeniably and unquestionably a follower of the mystical driver because that very is the essence of true it is that very essence it has nothing else in it but that and that's why it's so difficult to get hold of in this world truth is such a rare commodity has become so relative and  so qualified and i refined my staff of saying well who said what and finally i just go like this it means that pastors try the next thing we finally come to the idea of in this level communication is going to be at its very best bad is very best it's going to be bad i used to tell them i said i used to just what profit communication from you people just to really open up and say it i said now be satisfied if you just do anything no matter how bad it is anything i sell for anything just give me anything well we're waiting to see what that will that was today's last appeal we'll have to see what that is there is only one truth and that is god think about that f diverse activity and that's us every one of us collectively unilaterally horizontally vertically perpendicularly three hundred sixty five degree circle and those three hundred sixty that's for the five percent for those who are looking for a mistake there always has to be something for everybody since we've already reached most everyone keep in mind this the greater blessings the ideas and the concepts which occurred by just a small part of the abundance of material john roger has shared with us over the years if you would like a free book by john roger journey of assault call this number one eight hundred eight