discussion on the given this and also i want him to discuss around our responsibility as men as fathers and in the community and husbands and and brothers and just the whole scope of our responsibility as men  forgiveness from the christian standpoint let me just give a kind of a global view of what has to happen in them come down to our responsibility as christians to the entire world is in need of forgiveness there's a lot of harm going on in the world a lot of communities are hurting because offenses are committed and they're victims as a result and so when we push towards or try to hurt someone else intentionally or unintentionally  they're going to ask that you know can you please not do this to me and so then the person who perpetrates should ask for their forgiveness and one of the approaches that i look at it look in the book of mark eleven one i think scriptures and it talks about approaching god with the things that we want things that we like to have but god looks at something else in all of us and that is he looks for the person that is forgiving that as you stated it's a difficult thing for a lot of folks because it takes humility to forgive ok or to ask for forgiveness and like you just read just a little bit here in his approach jesus was answering some of his disciples and  this was after something to happen with the fig tree but we know that's another story but he says have faith in god for verily i say unto you that whatsoever shell any man can  he say if shall come to pass for he show give whatsoever he say if here's the scripture verse twenty four but this is what follows therefore i stand to you what things  you desire when you play believe that that ye receive them and you still have them but the other step that we must understand is when we talk to god god looks at something else in our character may forgive you your trespasses but if you do not forgive me and then your father which is in heaven will forgive your forgiving may not even accept it that's right and how do we deal with that ok what happens when a person number one has to realize the wrong they have committed against the person and be sincere about it sit down and talk about it's not it's not a two minute discussion it may take some some dialogue to to to under under underscore and bring up with the offense might have been so when we're talking and discussing things find out what it is that a person has done where they be you me or whoever it might be and say you know what i didn't mean to say that to you or i didn't mean to do that will you forgive me and be sincere and it's going to take some discussion because a person a man a minute as you said they may not accept forgiveness right away and that is what our society really needs to pay attention to why is it so hard for people to figure why is it in our hearts you know him an standpoint and you think that would just be natural but i know myself i've held on to grudges for such a long years and this is really what got me started having realized that what was in my heart was coming out and function yes and i think i want to share with the audiences that is what the issue is not true forgiveness really can within oneself a man you know and yes and we talked about this and again some of the steps that again you said to take twelve forgiveness ok let me give an example we live in a society where a lot of our young people and not all of them a lot of them are angry ok they come from a home perhaps is broken there might be have been some offenses taken it's not too far gone oh yeah going on a father may not have treated his children right he may pass ok and they have a funeral leo they have the you know the eulogy etc and so forth and the kids sit there the children sit there and they're upset because their father may have left them might have abused them and so when they go to the grey site for example or met in their paradigm they may they may still have the anger issues what has to happen is they have to open up their hearts and realize maybe he did the best he could he couldn't do any better at that point you've got to bring closure and say you know what he talks about those blessid or the sick and blessed are those who mourn for they will be shown mercy etc in that in that discussion jesus comes and he understands the people have been misused misguided treated bad by their religious leaders and so forth so the multitudes who are listening as to how he was talking about be patient your blessings are going to come ok and that's the promise  gave jesus is so forgiving is it says in john the third chapter verse forty three sixteen god loved the world so much he gave his only begotten son that is mankind cannot save themselves that we need a savior we know that but for god to send his son from heaven in the flesh to live among us is says john one verse fourteen he came to live among us in the flesh he sat our lives he saw w revealing with on a daily basis it hurt him to see the hurt and harm that was going on so he taught another commandment a new commandment love one another and the jews of samaritans hated egypt and that's something that was hard for the j do to forgive their fellow man and because even today yes even today even in a society look at what's going on see law enforcement is one thing it's another thing to be reformed when a person behind bars then they're deeper in anger ok they hate the system they hate the officers they hate everybody that put them there but what they have to do is reform things in their minds it's cautions chapter three chapter one verse three says you have to set your things on things above not on things on earth it's hard to do to transition our minds from earthly things to heavenly things that's where god resides that's where his kingdom is so we have to change the way we look at people treat people with respect especially in the home because our homes are so broken now ok you've got a man that as you talked earlier you've got men that that are in a family then they leave they start another one then they leave or they don't communicate they don't show the love that they have for their children and on the flipside of that are young people need to be taught how to obey their parents if each of six verse one says children obey your parents for this is well said in the in the lord so who spitefully use you ok and that's something that that is tough to deal with we get people do wrong to us on a daily basis might be a job but it's me bless you out and you can't talk back you've got understand we live in a society where people are provoked to do things look at multiple shootings going on to different schools and different places and places of work employment so forth so what has to happen is this is a wish absolutely it happens there is well people come back in sometimes in church which is sad but people have a debt and sometimes it's generational it's a sad thing to have a person that for example behind bars father behind bars son does the same thing is father grandpa did the same thing we've got to break that chain and it's all starts with how we think so you know one of the lines in the church is love is the reason that's right and i think in that concept of forgiveness again i wanted to do the show because i think that you know there is a mind body and spirit that i think we all three we can't become a person so one of the things what i've said is the most learned people the most lonely individuals get closer to god that's right or some form of him that's right in even if you don't believe in something if you believe in something that's right even not to believe in the believe in something and that gets us to you know as folks do this show will be coming up on the holidays and the birth of christ and we can't talk about his birth without his death yes right tell us a little bit about that in the stage of forgiveness for us ok in the twenty seventh chapter of matthew it gives us a whole overview of what happened to the lord and obviously from his birth and his cousin john who six months older than him baptized rulers came the nobleman came and they saw the birth of christ was over you have three wise men and yeah yes yes that was important but i know in a lot how delays holidays people focus on the birth of christ cetera but the most important thing is the death of jesus because he gave it all for all of mankind that's the biggest bless the largest blessing that we could ever imagine in the twenty seven chapter it talks about and he gives a synopsis of what happened when he was standing before a pilot pilot questioned him are you the king of the jews in and jesus well actually as you know about the kingdom he says my kingdom is no part of this world and that's something that's kind of hard for a pilot to wrap around and think about but he goes on and talks about the dialogue what happened leading up to his death that's important to realize because he was fulfilling prophesy ok he is the greater moses or i should say isaac has sacrificed the greater moses represents god sacrificing his son in vice versa with with abraham sacrificing isaac the bigger picture is the g a god would sacrifice his own son his only begotten son for all of mankind in the twenty seventh chapter of matthew which we often read in some of our congregations during communion it helps us to focus on the necessity of what god did for us he gave all of mankind for their sins is not man can't save himself he needed we need a mediator and jesus is that mediator and he is the one who stepped up for us so that god forgave us of our sins by the blood of his son jesus because you know you think of again the bible's african document yes a lot of the things that happen half in on the continent of africa that being said i think about the twelve disciples in the last supper yes and robbers that were on the left and right over there and what was happening during the time of his his crucifixion and he said to his father father forgive them for they know not what they do they're not even aware of what they're doing and this happened today absolutely in the same thing here we need to be forgiving towards one another we need to learn from scripture because history is repeating itself as we speak right now you know there are people that are just doing some terrible things across the middle east  different countries even in america and i believe it has to start in the home where we have to teach our children how to be forgiving teach them right from wrong is not an automatic learn for young people to learn to know to forgive so how do broken people that a broken become more whole because well what happens to my constant giving if broken people can't seem to give because they're broken themselves yes yes yes what do you say to folks in that again back to our discussion on forgiveness and about realizing your brokenness in addressing that to be a figure of a person at the end of all  around a lot of different communities there are classes that go on usually and hopefully spiritually based so people can be directed to scripture as to how to forgive libby's a fourth chapter talks about what  all these broken people break it and start over ok and people have to be willing to learn and listen to instructors so they can get their minds right just like he says the met in that in that the  motto the mind is a terrible thing to waste ok so we have to do is change the way we think about other people learn to be forgiving and don't go but just and you've heard the term forgive and forget some people forgive but they don't forget person is forgiven leave it and move on and don't even bring it up that what they did because there will be no we didn't see you again they're reminded of what they did to you ok but what has to happen is in friendship and love and caring for other people coming and they'll remember this it don't be offended if i say name robert but when robert come in man he go sit next to me because last time he came here he did this then the other so see that's not forgetting i can see you might forgive him but you haven't forgotten what they did so about a fix my life and yes we're talking about these this one particular man who had by some accounts forty children from seventeen different women and again this how can we become better them in their fathers better brothers better companions and in the context of the differences i believe there has to be and we've got to change the paradigm family meetings call everyone in the family you know you know see one thing to have a reunion ok that's a whole different thing when it comes to family meeting family discussion you should have a roster of questions that you can put out the field and have everyone bring in set it up several days later weeks later whatever where have everyone bring what is on their mind would bother them most about the family the situation whatever so that when you come together it's not about sharpening swords ok it's about bringing pam leaves of peace so that people can sit around and discuss things diplomatically and with love and honor understanding and appreciation and reveal to whoever the people might be just like you have a community meeting and people stand up and speak more so with the family because on the i believe the family level if you have a strong family have a strong community if you have a bunch of broken families that city is not going to function very well because there's missing persons the the mother left the father whatever but when you can when we can repair not just fix when you we can repair the broken people bring them back to where they need to be in other words the broken leg make sure they've got the therapy spiritually emotionally economically then they can function as individuals in society and they won't revert back to putting other people in care well my mom did to me and shout out to the senior pastor absolutely but have the right now speaking over san francisco before voting again inspirational educational words as he always has provided over the last year yes and i also wan yes if you come into the church that i go to that's the big banner of love is the reason again we thought it was so important i thought it was so important to start having these kinds of things because sometimes you have to toward things greater than yourself to get answers that's your hand i'll say that the death of my parents and and the changes that have in my family had me looking for greater answers absolutely myself absolutely and so this is a part of my  your style of ministry and what do you hope to bring to people in causes that you have and what do you hope for the future my hope is that folks will get serious about their relationship with god  don't put it on the back burner god should be number one matthew the sixty after verse thirty three says seek first the keno of god and his righteousness and all the other things will be added unto you and above that scripture it talks about what the world is concerned about food tomorrow clothes i'm going to wear what am i going to do and i don't have a home etc in those singular things but what we should do is seek first the kingdom of god that is the worship of god put him first every family needs god every family needs got first ok put him first teach the children to do the same thing i suggest every family should get their children bibles teach them how to read teach them to read with you spend time with children young people and as they grow up they'll never forget it because they're going to remember when they're kids three or four years old i remember when mom and dad used to read the bible to me because that would have me ok you become a better person in society you function better because your ground your foundation is solid that's what we need our prisons are in result of young people they did not get the word when they were young they learned on the street the street is no there's no love there there's no forgiveness there in fact often times in people get involved in these situations gangs and so forth they're taught to hurt somebody else and don't even blink and that's the wrong way to be taught because turmoil even amongst his own people the israelites they would want they want to be like other nations they want to act like them and why can we have a king why can't we have this why can't we have it all goes back to the same thing obey god is ruler rather than man as would paul said to the twenty night we must obey god is ruler rather than man the same is true today we must obey would god says do what he says and life will be prolonged in the concept of forgiveness  work forgiveness is something that everyone is responsible to do and perform we have to change the way we think about other people we should love in spite of even with the way the bible says that those who persecute as those who do is wrong don't be retaliatory don't go get a weapon don't set up a trap pray for them ok folks come from different lifestyles they come from different backgrounds you may not know why a person after you affronted you like that or you've done someone else we are to think about what we say and do before we do it our church is bible bible read bible lead in bible faith w