i there this is david wilcox and you're listening to another divine cosmos audio blog exclusive interview with benjamin fulford sulphuric has worked for forbes magazine as the editor for the asia pacific region now people have tried to attack his credibility on this before but it is documented i've checked the references myself he was mentioned by stephen koepp there in one show discussing the so called and i will also say that fulford has contact with an incredible number of different sources he does seem to back up who the sources are as much as humanly possible and recently these sources informed him that the earthquakes that occurred in colorado and then in washington d c area surrounding aug twenty second twenty third it's were in fact apparently nuclear strikes against underground military facilities that have been built by the us government ostensibly since the early one nine hundred sixty s at the cost of trillions of dollars of undocumented taxpayer money that is going into these black projects now the reason why i classified programs and i was absolutely astonished when i started asking around and found out that everyone i know with one exception who probably wasn't on a need to know basis confirmed that this attack did happen now again i'm going to turn it over to ben just a second but one more set up thing i want to say here is if you haven't understood the gravity or the implications of what i'm telling you right now it's important to point out that these guys never imagined that these underground facilities could ever have been attacked so what has happened here is a seismic shift in this insider war that is arguably as significant as the nuking of hiroshima and nagasaki in world war two and in fact it may very well be the workings of the universe in terms of karma that the people responsible for those attacks have now had it happen to them the there's undeniable significance in this happening i was astonished at the depth of detail that i've been able to get from my own sources about what happened i've been told that the situation is now considered code red however it's also being withheld from most of the people in these programs it's on a need to know basis and even the sources i'm in contact with all except for once did not even have the need to know basis high enough to know why this it happened or who was responsible for it so the only thing that we know is that the powers that were as i like to call them have been putting out stories on the internet about this event and what they're actually doing is they're trying to mine for information that want to find out who knows what and i am astonished that my own sources lack the knowledge that benjamin fulford has been putting out as to who is responsible for this and why it is responsible but my intelligence suggests that it's possible that it's many as thirty thousand people were in each of these two underground cities at the time that it went off so we're talking about the potential of sixty thousand deaths and we're also talking about the potential with anyone else working for these programs who is in one of these facilities which could either be underground or possibly off world such as in a space station or on the moon or elsewhere they are now totally alone and on guard they are not going to be protected they are not safe and their superiors are not informing them of the risk that they now are in by being in those locations i want to set the record straight i want to get the man to talk to you the public and hear firsthand what the hell is going on who did this why did they do this and what are the implications so ben this is my answer let's hear from you know i'm very interested in this the re's been a very esoteric battle over control of the dollar printing machine ok for the global financial system what happened was that at the end of world war two during the bread or was accords of nine hundred forty four britain france and the u s were given the right to control the world currency and they were supposed to have a marshall plan to develop africa and asia as well as europe but when they were in edged on their promise the group and instead started the fake cold war with the soviet union which was designed to support the military set up some global collateral accounts and he wanted to use this money to start the marshall plan for asia and africa and president kennedy agreed to go along  he found out that there was a group that was trying very seriously that the soviet union in the united states to initially teach other this is the cuban missile crisis so there had some  country and he was going to give kennedy they gave kennedy hundred forty thousand tons of gold and he passed a law allowing congress not the federal reserve board to create dollars and kennedy also said let's go to the moon  instead of this cold war you know to stimulate industry so you say yeah let's develop the poor countries and let the develop space instead of having the say cold war and kennedy did put out a lot of money but now the international agreement that left britain france the united states in charge of the world's financial system expired in nineteen ninety four that is why they wound down the soviet union and after nine hundred ninety four there was no accord at the very top level of the world financial system about who would be in charge next there was a split in the ranks and the chinese and the nonaligned nations were pressuring the oligarchs who were running things who had been running things since world war two hand over control of the dollar printing press the financial system and they were reluctant the international court of justice in the hague was sued by the chinese over gold that the federal reserve board owners owed them and the federal reserve board owners lost the lawsuit and they were told to hand over the gold starting on temper twelfth two thousand and one and instead on september eleventh two thousand and one as you all know they gave the world a finger and instead and marched s in england and italy with a group that you know can be found within the military in congress and in the vatican we're going to set up a global government and at the same time they had this belief that there were too many people especially too many according to them inferior brown type people and they wanted to reduce the world's population by ninety percent invitation to prove it but and they were planning to hide in these underground bases after they set off a nuclear holocaust the original plan was to start a nuclear war between iran and israel use that as an excuse to set up martial law in the g seven countries and then prepare for war against china this fell apart when russia kicked them out and  independence for russia that removed their control the oil industry and made that whole plan work and the chinese also stopped buying u s treasuries for a while to put pressure on this group so they switched two this is a call how you can clone confirmed but in any case this group that carried out the nine one one attacks has been under increasing pressure and under isolation at the very highest levels and they're running out of money they're being cut off then when right before september eleventh a lot of people forgot about this that donald rumsfeld goes on national television and says that they lost two point three trillion dollars from the pentagon over the previous decade that have anything to do with this gold thing you're talking about oh yeah no that money was used to finance the blackwater and a private army not controlled by the pentagon because the pentagon would not let themselves be controlled by this come about and so they were trying to do like the nazis did world war two created an elite s s corps that could bully the regular military so that was where that money went to is far as i have my sources are concerned in any case we were contacted by smugglers drug smugglers could you asian secret societies we use the name white dragons another group they call themselves white hats but we all have the same goal which is to get this insane group of people out of power some of the some of the criticism that i've seen from people on the internet is well if this group is so vast and so powerful to fight this cabal why is benjamin fulford the only one talking about this well  murder attempts myself one of my colleagues he a guy was recently poisoned right in by these guys another one of our members in switzerland they found you know he's got guards around his house they just shot someone bag missed him by a couple inches last week why don't these people i mean we're dealing with some very dangerous people and that's why there's a need for secrecy i've also speculated that since you are in japan and you're a guy doing you're a foreigner white person and you have the background of being a distinguished editor of forbes magazine that the fact that you are bilingual you do speak fluent japanese are plenty of videos you've done now to show that might have been part of what gave you this platform to give these asian secret societies a voice and you say that's correct well what happened with in my case was that i asked a very simple and obvious question  and according to the u n development report you need four hundred billion to stop environmental destruction and two hundred billion to end poverty so i'm saying hey you guys for ok hold on hold on it's a no brainer four hundred billion is all it takes to completely stop environmental destruction how is that possible that's an annual budget ok this is the u n development report you have to go through their experts to find out how they did those numbers ok but that is public domain ok but the point is that so that a trillion is a vastly more than what it would take to end poverty and environmental destruction yeah and the other thing is if you look at the disappears if you realize that ninety percent of the world's savings was being sucked out of the system by the u s military industrial complex how do you prove that well again this is all i mean i was a financial journalist for twenty five years this is all public  you know why don't you just stop paying for the military and hold asians and and instead ask when the ambulance came an hour later and he got to the hospital and he was put in the hospital elevator in the elevator stopped for eight minutes and he died the elevator ok he was he was investigating a member of this same group that i it crosses borders if you think in terms of countries you don't understand how these people work because they have big factions in china in the us and europe both against and for them so it crosses borders and if you think in terms of nation states you w understand how these groups work but in any case a financial battle started and there were many many publics our bills in two thousand and six the chinese wanted to use their dollars to do something other than buy treasuries they tried to buy the oil company unocal congress passed a law saying they could not so then they took their dollars and they went to africa and south america and everywhere and started spending them on real things like mines and agricultural land and commodities and not virtual things like fancy impossible to understand the root of products which were basically calling jobs ponzi schemes  reason there were people people were going hungry was that they were paying farmers to grow oil instead of food and that put an end to that so then there was a counterattack and they were told that we would no longer accept dollars printed within the united states and that's what you know of as the lehman crisis and you can check this in the public record if you look at japanese exports to six from october you can no longer use paper to buy stuff from the rest of the world you have to trade with real things here of course your public was not let in on this well that's that's where i think people's brain is go us full of stuff and then leaving empty ok so these are ways people can verify what i was saying with public record information ok now and then getting back to the blowing up of the nuclear or the underground bases this group was being cut off more and more at the high level and they were running out of money they were trying to be trying to extort money from various countries they killed the you know the youth group of the ruling party in norway you know that was the norway attacks because they were trying to extort the one point five trillion dollar  norwegian government controls they were saying they will kill you if you don't hand over your money basically desperately trying to find cash they invaded libya to take over their oil fields because the libyans were told him you know we're not going to give you  paper anymore and in the case of japan again we know i have sources who are actually drug smugglers who been selling drugs in japan for seventy years these  a type you know this is the cia drug smuggling division ok and they told me that a nuclear bomb had been brought in with their latest shipment of drug use was the seventy killed shipment of adulterated thai marijuana was brought in through okinawa and they found a nuclear bomb mixed in with it and of course these guys you know smuggling drugs is one thing smuggling nuclear weapons is another and they told the police and they told me and i made it public and they followed the the bomb as far as the north korean citizens  association headquarters in tokyo and i have independent confirmation from a mr pauling of you pentagon military intelligence he was a part of the man who started go to group that for nuclear weapons were stolen from the russian submarine the curse when it sank i think goes in two thousand and something and it was one of those nuclear weapons that was smuggled in then we have published poem by who the well this is but they have submarine bases in various parts of the world and so i'm assuming some of the submarine bases next question would be why would they need to get it from the curse if the if they're powerful enough to make their own you see there is one thing to have the public nuclear devices are under strict safety protocols ok you can't just take them and then blow them up somewhere there's just too many people involved in the chain of command and they tried to do that you know there were incidents where they just barely stopped a nuclear right like the minnow air force base thing yeah exactly so these are not and the soldiers did a mutiny and basically would not commit this broken arrow where they that's what they call the code terms yeah well there you go and then so what they needed was some nuclear weapons that were not under any official government control and there was a japanese drilling ship known as the cheek you model ok that can drill ten kilometers into the seabed and they were drilling at the exact epicenter of the earthquake we had an article from january seventeenth from a local paper saying they were drilling there and they put the bomb in the seabed and this was an attempt to extort that's for people who don't know who jiang lives right around tokyo which is the largest population center japan that's right they're basically saying they would new tokyo which is how many million people thirty forty million thirty million or so  over some like two trillion yen twenty billion dollars in any way and they gave him a big bribe but the evidence that this was not a natural disaster began piling up and the result has been a battle here in japan to remove these people who control some people might not realize that there's any evidence that it was not a natural disaster could you just briefly touch on a couple points that you think are the there's plenty of evidence there was the governor the governor of fukushima province told me that they overrule him and put tony i'm in reactor number three one months before the tsunami incident only a month before yeah and then we had  population it doesn't make sense for a cheap housing company's stock price to go should not like that unless there was something in the works and the other is that a group of us had recorded a conversation between kurt campbell who's the on march ninth two thousand and eleven and in this conversation campbell asked not to split the ruling party and forced the creation of a new government and they said that they would give him the right to fuel light in fukushima province as eli is used to clean up radioactive waste and this conversation was recorded on march ninth two days before the tsunami  attack the other point is that a man by the name of talking my son from japanese military intelligence subsequently told me that israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu after the attack phoned japanese prime minister and now also cannon said that he would cause other nuclear disasters around japan if he did not start handing over the money and the chief ma sa agent in japan by the way now is a guy called michael green even nasty pursue work and we're going to remove him from this country soon but in any case one one question no ok go ahead sorry i'm in order to confirm that what this guy told me i checked and there was an israeli company that for some reason wasn't charged to keep the security at the japanese nuclear plant oh my gosh so i was able to independently confirm that keep mentioning somewhere not israel but a clique of at the top of the israeli government yes most israeli i consider to be chumps or victims of these people because  with neutron bombs on them remember neutron bombs kill people but leave buildings intact well that's not only treasonous it sounds crazy it is and then the iranian said we don't want them there  put them at the iraqi border and they asked president obama to please take them off their hands and obama just refused to listen wow and this is a again people at the higher level know this is true you know  another words they're going to offer the people of israel as a kind of ritual sacrifice so he's really they were victims a lot of them were fooled with jewish superiority talk which is really the same as the area nasty super ty talk only you substitute you for area and they were there were trumps ok so most of the israeli youth don't know what was going on and would be appalled to hear it ok so this is not a jewish thing i mean  radios the hollywood studios you know it's much more sophisticated now yeah but they're trying to get everybody to think the same way and they're losing it i mean nine one one the story there what they did was they blew up the underground bases that the elites were going to use to hide in when they carried out their nuclear holocaust ok i want to get back to that because that's a really central point but there's one question i want to ask you before we get to that because that's sort of what the conclusion of the discussion but ok why do these guys need money if they have so much infrastructure so much assets massive political power why can't they just make me exercise power move men around move unisons around why do they need money why are they going around like a crackhead looking for a fix and going all these different countries to try to scam money off of them why can't they just print dollars and finance and that's why they were dependent on ultimately the chinese and the asians who are financing wall street and that's why i'm what i've told the pentagon guys is hey you know you guys can have a starship enterprise future you know exploring the universe and all that kind of stuff just work with us we're not going to cut you off you're not going to end up like the soviet union where you had a general who's now you know suddenly forced to drive a taxi in london and you can be the good guys again and a lot of them said you know hey that i think that's a good idea yes we want to be heroes again we don't want to be the bad guys you're saying that they have suppressed technology that could bring us into the starship enterprise reality i don't know about that but we can confirm in the public record is that according to the american academy of science more than six thousand patents have been suppressed for so called security or public safety reasons and some of these probably need to be suppressed that we don't want everyone to have a backyard nuke for example sure but a lot of them i'm hearing were just kept because these people were acting like dogs in the major they want to do have only the elite have it so my understanding is that for example the a lot of the so called u are just the fist a kid earth based secret aircraft that aren't available to the public at large i would agree with that and so you know the the point is let's develop these patents in a safe way and you can have a gloom time such as we haven't had in a very long time right instead of creating these financial products that are just who do want to actually build infrastructure and the existing military industrial complex i would argue is probably the only entity on earth that has the tools the factories the infrastructure the staff to be able to accomplish this exactly and that's what you know the generals are now on our side and the people who are not on our side are mostly bribe politicians in washington d c and to the wall street crowd so they're being increasingly isolated now what possible reason could they have these these adversaries why in the world do they think they want to reduce population the average person they're both their mind shuts down because they can't conceptualize that anyone would be that evil so what's their rationale as far as you understand the story they tell me is that look we're destroying the environment too many people for the planet to support and the other thing is these people are elitists who believe in eugenics and they think plus you know too many stupid people are breeding too much useless eaters all they do is they destroy the environment and they don't produce anything they just sit around and watch t v and we don't need these people we want to eliminate the weak and the useless and just keep on l d we want to increase the improve the genetic quality of the human race by purging the garbage from the system and we get to save the environment and create whole new natural eco system i mean i think that the georgia guidestones has their philosophy of you know five hundred million people in permanent harmony with the environment this is what their goal is so they put it in eco terms of people to get the nasties were great green people when it came to preserving nature and natural parks and all that kind king and we'll need above five hundred million slaves or so to keep to keep us pampered but the rest we don't need and it's also about control they don't have the brainwashed control over large parts of the planet and they realize that they weren't going to be able to control the people and so they thought let's kill rather than lose control of the planet now a lot of a lot of people who read about this stuff online the vast majority of fact including most of the guests the jeff rense would have on or alex jones would have on there is an incredible sense of futility everyone seems to go with the knee jerk reaction that like all the governments in the world all the countries in the world everybody's in on it that you see that's where they're come you're being used and turn into control opposition they turn  control now the g five countries and they're which countries are those for italy france england germany and the united states that's it you're saying all the other countries in the world they don't control anymore  if you look at the countries that accepted the new the i mean i think maybe they've got a few subject concious like honduras and colombia and stuff like that but basically if you look at the african  union they put those their own currency backed by khadafi gold and they support they don't support these groups or the most of the countries in asia russia china what about european countries like czechoslovakia bulgaria romania they were at this meeting there was a meeting in monaco and the end of august fifty seven countries were invited by the swiss  discuss you know cutting these people off financially and they creating an international financial boycott against the controllers of the g five that's an incredible statement you're making you're saying fifty seven different countries including some of these eastern european countries representatives from the netherlands and canada there too and and the since what about south america yeah of course and since then more than eighty countries have signed on so we're reaching a point where it's going to become public ok it's going to be on the airwaves it's going to be on the news it's not there can't hide it much longer why the hell haven't they made this public already if people are dying and these guys are trying to fake an alien invasion that's one thing we keep hearing that they want to do an alien nine eleven why haven't they gone public already you don't think they've tried look i had a book proposal at the berlin book ok eleven publishing companies wanted that book out there including five major ones and they all came back and said they were told by their bosses that they couldn't do it you know they've had people going telling everybody i ever was associated with professionally that i had become an insane drug user and they control the media remember that  e five companies five corporations controlled by people like rupert murdoch in red stone and stuff who have a grip over all the t v studios all the newspapers the radio stations hollywood studios you name it so if their economies are going to go down they can then say that it's a global economic collapse and it's not a global economic collapse again if you look at the public statistics you'll see that if you exclude the g five countries the average growth in the world economy last year was seven percent holy crap people are booming it's not a world crisis it's a crisis among becomes countries controlled by this come out and it's only the g five nations wow i mean look at the statistics they're all there you know it's all in the public record you just have to look at government web site stuff to check this out there's nothing i'm saying including the plan to kill ninety percent of the world's population that's not in the public records in their own writings we have countless confessions verner wrong brown v the guy behind the apollo project said on his deathbed that they were going to use a fake alien invasion as an excuse for genocide it's crazy stuff but it's provable many people don't think like normal humans i guess it was a herbert hoover said herbert j edgar hoover that when a conspiracy so big people's mind boggles and they go into denial in any case coming down ok we got right you know you said something very provocative you said that there is this meeting that happened with i believe you said fifty seven different countries was it yes and this happened in the narco yes and it was taken on board a ship which was  went into international waters and according to two witnesses jay rockefeller senator jay rockefeller showed up and tried to break into the meeting and he was physically ejected and that two black hawk helicopters appeared above the ship during the meeting and they were chased away by harrier jets ok now these black helicopters would be like apaches with weapons on them i don't know the details no i just heard that there were two he licopters and that there was a danger they're going to use some kind of electromagnetic weapon against the ship and all like scalar technology kind of stuff yeah i don't know that and then there were chased away by two harrier jets wow u military jets so this is this you know if they had succeeded with those helicopters what do you think might have happened there were everybody of has died well they would have killed all the representatives and then they would have said hey you know nobody we're in we're in charge and if you try to go against us we'll kill you which is what they've been doing everything to go to war to but have so many persons of interest died at once would not become a massive international incident that would require investigation anyway well i mean look they have done this before out there would go on believing i'm sorry but that's how it is so somehow you guys had you were you at this meeting yourself then no wait a close colleague of mine was there and i've confirmed it from two other people who were there who aren't related to that colleague of mine now what about people from trying to have a commission builder bird council on foreign relations there were deliberately excluded any one of them so matter who the matter who they were if the was supposed to last until tuesday and they all had to flee on sunday night because they were about to be arrested by the swiss well i've never heard that before but it's there it's again i mean what happened was a swiss  lawmaker tried to get into the site and he was beaten up and he went to the swiss government that hey i'm a swiss member of parliament in my own country and they beat me up and threw me out and that's illegal it said yes we'll go arrest them and they all have to pack their suitcases and flee on sunday night before being arrested on monday so this would have been like a paramilitary swat team that were swept in or something but and yeah the police also already so they're going to build a burgers chased out with their tail between their legs i mean now could you get into some detail about why this is so significant what did they talk about how are they going to pull off doing something like this were these were these entities control all five of these five corporations control the world media the they don't control the world's money you see and they're once they lose the control booth the people with the guns then that's it at a certain point i believe the pentagon  probably send people into the t v headquarters in the u s and you know you're going to see new faces and a totally different story coming out on your t are you know completely pissed off and they support ron paul and they know that there's something totally wrong look i mean if pinion polls in the u s so that eighty seven percent of americans don't trust washington that should tell you the the mental state in america now they're saying we don't want these scumbags in charge anymore they're angry but they're not sure who they should be angry that's i think how the majority of americans think they know there's something wrong they don't have some to do wall street in washington i don't know the details but they wish somebody would come in and do something about it and that is what is going to happen if it is going to go to just go and i can tell you who the leaders are ok people like henry kissinger george bush near the label of that you use for them but then they go you know that's the group that had this crazy plan that somehow they could take over the world's oil and still control the world for the twenty first century  think most people could admit that fox news and news corp would be a shill for these guys but to say that you're basically saying that like all the media in america for the most part is controlled by these folks i mean why why would the m all sound like a fox in any certain at works how many major networks and hollywood studios have come out with nine one one truth ok good point just ask yourself that and then you can understand so you over what i'm telling you is this is that i want to conclude is that we've got we've found this thing called the global collateral counts it's a cold book that shows who's been using the world's money since the end of world war two and for what reason and it has a list of names you know for example who financed the vietnam war and why all that kind of stuff we have these records now and we having  people there are banding that come about like rats jumping off a sinking ship we have a world who's who coming to us with information when this happens this is going to be i think ultimately the biggest thing certainly since world war two possibly the biggest thing in two thousand years ok we're going to see something an ancient come back out that has controlled humanity through murder propaganda  bribery for possibly thousands of years is going to come to an end it's going to be something that has not happened in the history of our planet before it's going to be incredible basically we're talking about the end of babylonian style tyranny that's wow how far it goes back now that certainly the group has a p two freemason it logs in the vatican claimed that they controlled things in secret since the time of julius caesar when i went to italy i'm at them them and why it doesn't have any relationship with this meeting in the narco yes well as pentagon and white hacks saying to the elite you're not going to destroy the surf of the planet and the scape yourselves if you're going to destroy the surface of the planet you're going to destroy your families too you're not going to escape you know eat in other words they they made it very clear to them they're not going to be out initiate some kind of nuclear holocaust and be able to get away with it right these guys must always thought somehow that these bases were safe and now none of them are there will come out will take over the planet will breed like rabbits you know going to happen now you had said on your blog that some of your people that were there minako that has detailed maps of these underground bases they know exactly where they event will take place what what might happen when might it happen what are we looking at what are we going to be or what will be the precursor to this i'm there are several possibilities that what i'm hearing the most the one that depended on backs is a lawsuit that would lead to the arrest of the top to ballots and but but right now they're also trying to kind of deal saying hey look you know if you guys start the nuclear terror then maybe you will forgive you because  forgiveness we have a time window was when this might all come to a head and wow it's ok it's a war i mean who knows what crazy stuff they'll do next but it could be as early as this fall it could be as late as next summer ok i don't have cites date ok but you know i'm hearing we're pretty close now do you think the the failure of the russian airplane that had their entire hockey team was in any way relieved of this war it's possible but you know generally they would rather get a bunch of generals than hockey players ok you know there was a crash off the coast of brazil that was involved with this i know but i don't know about the hockey players  so just in summary that is good you paint a picture of let's assume that this happens let's assume that these eighty countries get what they want what what kind of just paint a picture of what happens and where we go as a planet  it going to take us to get there well ok i mean it's just common sense we have the technical ability to end poverty and stop environmental destruction within a year we just don't have the institutions or the will to do it so instead of a fake war on terror you know and it financing defense companies forever for in a useless manner you would have some sort of huge campaign globally you know quibbling of world war three but a peaceful one to fix all the problems on the planet and then start telling people the truth of both their history which they been lied to about so much and start building new institutions that are fair transparent meritocratic anybody can climb the pyramid and get to the top that they're really you know good enough and determined enough  instead of an inbreed family controlling at an inbred family group controlling it and i think it's sort of like those people japan went through it at the end of world war two suddenly they're told her emperor was not a guard and that the war wasn't actually ending  victory and that soon you know everything was about to change and it's going to be like that ask anyone who went through the end of the soviet union what it was like and you get a pretty good idea of what's coming