there comes a place where you say you you want to experience something you've got to do do it you got to do it this got to do it and whether be some fear absolute fear you know abraham is is a father of the nation of israel the nation of israel came from abraham abraham was a pagan his family were pagans they didn't follow god they worship false gods they had nothing to do with the one true god whatsoever god caused abraham is abraham come out of your people god takes him miles and miles away from his people guess what some you need to get miles and miles away from some people because you'll never be used by god as long as you hang with certain people some people just got to say you know what i can't be around you anymore  that sarah laughs and that's issac's name the one who laughs ok she's laughing at me have a baby yeah right i'm one hundred years old i might have a baby ok what nation do we have what group of people what religion do we have because of abraham trying to do it his way muslims islamic religion comes from abraham trying to do it his way so they have a baby saudi ishmael turns around there's division between nation of israel and islam to this day that's what happens when you try to get to the melton your way anybody ever done that trying to get to do it god's thing your way is that it is way is there a short cut short cut to recovery is there a short cut to you know what i'm going to share the gospel but you know what i want to use the bible has people get offended by the bible good luck and sharing the gospel without the word of god the gospel ok gospel but my good works so what you're teaching people if you know i have to be a good godly christian never talk about jesus and they'll come to jesus because i live so good if you don't share why you're good you know they wouldn't come to religion works and are trying to make themselves to you you always point somebody to the word so out of it he turns around in the in a pavin isaac and then amazing thing happens and a lot of atheists the neck gnostics get trapped up hand could have said i don't see any good out of this thing he's the promise on the nation of israel is going to be come from him from this bloodline and you tell me to kill him well you know what i'm not doing it that he won't have the mel top experience god only gives you a glimpse of what he has for you how we know that it is god give you everything you know he gives you tidbits how many know he sometimes teases you as talking to somebody yesterday and they said i think god is just teasing me and i want to get mad but i know that's how god works at times you know i tease us he wants to challenge us he's testing us because if god told him hey i'm a writer son from the great america's going to happen then what guess what happens what do you do it of course you do it but what do you what about when you don't know and god tells you to do something but you still do it by what by faith he's got the right character so out of it he says isaac a we're going to go up and do the sacrifice and hey guess what they did sacrifices all the time he says gathe says something and abraham says that god will provide and the person that's helping them goes so far in the stay here and we're going up and th servant even he says to his no he says to the servant we will come back down how can we come back down he's supposed to kill his son when he says we will come back down what is abraham saying he's trusting god and god told him to sacrifice his son and we're going to come down what does that mean his son going to be resurrected that's faith so he believes god is go help me to be faithful and he's taking each step this getting closer he probably saying i hope it takes a long time to get to the top because i know what the top is going to me and yet he goes to that top and it says that he goes any puts his son now this time the son's figure something i think i am the sacrifice doesn't saying there is the son got a fist fight with his dad i don't think he did because i think he was raised an environment that he says you know what i trust that god and my father experience because the decisions we made the gods also give me many sons instead of my one son and i be able to speak into the life of many min and i put my life in everything into them because i believe that god gave them somebody that i can turn around and touch even if i can't touch my son you get the mountain of experience if you want it is not be the way you want it so i guess the toppy has a son and there he picks the knife up but he goes to take the knife down his son and what happens he bad ray i'm in the bushes this isn't god made sure he heard the ram god made sure he's seeing the lamb because he had got to make sure you wouldn't kill a son when you had that mountain of experience that looks like i don't even know why i'm here it was a big mistake i should've never done a god told me to do it can't be god i don't know what to do but all of a sudden god will show up and when he shows up in the journey don't mean a thing to you're not worried about the journey not worried about the sore feet you know worried about t came back down with the sun people will know when you've had an encounter with god they'll be something different that takes place your life will know for sure you've had some kind of encounter with god the question is when you go through the journey  you go through the journey grab your bibles go to romans chapter five by faith into disgrace which we stand and we exalt in the hope of the glory of god and not only this but we also exalted or tribulations knowing the tribulation brings about perseverance and perseverance proving character and proven character hope and hope does not disappoint because the love of god has been poured out within our hearts through the holy spirit who was given to us this break it down therefore having been justified by faith we have peace through got our lord jesus christ if you have accepted jesus christ your as your savior you are justified you were made right before god god it changes a lot of make you right god did change the commandments to make you right with god did as said jesus to fulfill the law so that you be made and it says there will be peace if you accept jesus christ your life and you truly have done that you should have some kind of peace that's in your life if nothing else you may not have any other kind of peace but you know that you will be in heaven so therefore having been just by the faith we have peace with god lord jesus christ verse two through also we have obtained our inner dutch by faith into this grace which we stand and we exalt of the hope of the glory of god because of this faith that we've obtained what we obtain the grace of god in our life and we stand in that grace of god no matter what obstacle i meet no matter what challenge i meet i know that i will enter into heaven at some point in time i will die and i'll go to heaven or g s will come back i go to heaven and i stand by faith to believe that's true and god will give me the grace to walk this out and his grace is the power to walk of victory his grace the power to say no to send and yes to god and out of that grace i walk in that grace and i know this that in that grace i have hope because of a jesus christ has done in my life i have hope no matter how bad it gets listen when i was suicidal it is stupid is crazy to be a christian be suicidal but the good knows duces you to be a christian is still b c is suicidal and you still have hope in the midst of that somehow god was going to get me through this i don't know hour but somehow i want to get through this no matter what it is i'm staying with his addictions trying without ever maybe i'm struggling with pride of trying or something and the nominee get through this but because of jesus christ my life i have the hope in the glory of god that i will be transformed i will be changed and  will be a new creation in christ jesus they will walk in the victory that's the hope that we have through jesus christ but how do we get that hope and this is where most people miss it because what they want is a little they want that they come to the sultan except jesus and all of a sudden ever these fixed i believe in the power of the altar i believe you could come to this altar and god could meet you at the altar because i know that because in the old testament god met the people at the altar repentance so you can come here you can repent i've seen people totally controlled by drugs and come to the altar turn around and immediately be set free no you know no symptoms whatsoever no kicking the era when they're totally free and walk and years of freedom i've seen it most don't want it most don't want to cause i'll never come to the altar in the first place because of pride because listening to the devil nothing can happen at the altar where you don't believe doesn't happen i won't one way you're going to have to go through is to go through some tribulations some trials some through testing so guess what happens i want to have hope i can get free i want to have hope i can be a man of god i want to have that i can get a good job i don't have all these things i want to have hope for most us wishing is not hoping i wish i wish wishes do nothing wishes are with waste of time but i have hope that god puts him if something happens so out of it i have this hope for something other so i don't really get that i got breath or so what do i do i quit tribulation comes and i quit but guess what you don't stop there is an unknown only this be also a zone or tribulations knowing the tribulation brings perseverance in order to have hope you have to persevere you know most people don't perseverance or walk whatever it is that they want because it can or tribulation and they give up they quit the so the tribulations come they quit so there's no perseverance people have no perseverance with people who are just everything shakes their box or bolt as soon as one bad thing happens they just give up they quit you'll never be on top experience if you quit you've got to perseverance you've got to hang in there but you won't unless you really want what you want do you really want what you want if you don't know what god has for you won't want it so yesterday help somebody to get into treatment this ep art is not in treatment the sad part they went right back to where they were using they had it a trial a tribulation and they quit and i'm hoping because a monday they get another chance i hope and that they decided to go back where they shouldn't go back and they make a decision that they say you know these two days i'm a stay clean sober i'm going to go in monday but i know something about them they've been talking a going to treatment for six months now have they persevered through the trials what do you think no keep giving up keep quitting i would simplify eighty but i don't want to pay the price anything good there's a price to you know that you're not going to win the lottery i've got a prediction in fact i'll bet on it will put money on it i'll bet not a single person is going to win the lottery that somebody won't pay you never put a dime in so if you don't buy the dollar ticket you're not going to win but some have been buying dollar tickets for how long how many in this room and other church is put their money in the lottery a dollar at a time but they won't put a dollar a week into the kitty and the son put a dollar a week in the kid that's all they got because the other two dollars went to the lottery ticket i will tell you i can make a lot of money off of you going to put your hope that something is true and so out of it there's tribulations and you've got a purse of ear and you not only have to persevere what happens next is that out of persevere spirit is character how many know if you go through trials and tribulations and you persevere will build character in you how many know that many people are a character is that of having character you know why they are a character is that having character because wherever there's tribulations they quit they never persevered and the cop an attitude where is god i don't see god working yeah i can accept jesus but nothing ever happened for me except in jesus nothing good ever happened there a person that is a character don't have character why they didn't persevered with the trials come they gave up and then it says perseverance proves character gives character and it brings hope so how do you get hope through trials to t tribulations to climbing to the top of the mountain this is hope does not disappoint because the love of god has been part out within our hearts to the who is all the spirit who has given us guess what he's given us the holy spirit why do you have hope because the holy spirit lives within  lives but then you who give you the ability to get through the tribulations that he will build perseverance and you he will develop character and then you will get that experience the has for you because it's the holy spirit's job to get you the top of the mountain it isn't yours your job is to cooperate with the holy spirit is not i'm not telling you cinch up the belt bite the bullet split on the bootstraps and go for it do you need to do that yeah that won't get it that's me more that has to be the holy spirit working within you in enabling and empowering you to get to that next level that god has for you and when you get to the next level god has for you start to taste some goodness you get to see the presence of god you see the glory of god you get to experience god working you know what it does you get addicted to seeing god work why do i do what i do out of a lot of it has to do with recovery isn't all that i wish it wasn't any of that at times yesterday i wish god called me to something else yes the hurt are badly now only hurt i was saying three and then i sin in the midst of it i did say i don't want any more to do i don't want to see a single drug addict i want nothing to do i just want good people i want perfect people my life where are are no perfect people there is no perfect situation but out of that why do i do what i do because i've tasted the glory of god i've seen life's changed lies that people said don't never change don't be an act the paul and i will post of there because my holy spirit will give me the strength to go through it what about you would do you want what will you go through when you go the next level where you have to tell your flesh to die when you take a given there's be great and wonderful and just name it claim and believe it and you know positive thinking positive pas the pas the pas the positive and this positive positive positive and everything's going to be great everything we want to put is working out for him look at his place it's working out for him he's got a couple of mansions and it's more than you mean you ever have works out good for him and it works out for all the members though because if you're chasing after that you're chasing after the wrong thing nothing wrong positive thinking nothing wrong with believing what god promises but you have to understand how do you get it if you get it by a preacher telling you you get it you know you get that you go through the trials you climb the mountain so many end with this as i've shared this before about mountain no more falls i love it as though there's  falls is beautiful in oregon and you got a big climb up to the top and i've done it twice or three times i'm not sure i remember two times i mean the first time i did it and i knew i was going to die the second time i thought i did die and so my legs were hurt i'm driving he can't drive so i'm driving not all the way to idaho back we're going the falls and i know what this is going to be and i says well jeff you can go up and i'll wait for you then i heard a little birdie say something that there's not just the main falls there's three other falls when you get up pyar i said there's three other falls besides that falls i haven't seen them i need to see them so out of it i says hey i'm a go with you and i know it will make it all three but at least we get to one more falls i got to get that one more the where there is i like challenges i like obstacles because i know every obstacle there is or something be behind that obstacle my back is aching my legs are aching at that time both feet were pretty much know when i was having this problem and i'm not saying do this it's kind of dumb ok so i'm not saying be dumb but i'm saying this i think god honors me and my faith and i believe god watches over me even if i'm dumb and i don't try to be dumb i could just be done with not trying at all pretty easy for me maybe it's harder for you to be dumb but it's pretty easy for me to be dumb and as i'm climbing up i'm saying now oh how we going to do this i gotta get my breath i gotta pray oh jesus help me jesus help me help me not mr and the poor jeff he's going to have to carry me down but at least i could to the top and god given the strength to carry me down we get to the top he's in awe you don't reason want to do it i want to see him he was like a little kid brings tears to my eyes because i went through pain for what for the sake of someone else about going through some pain for the sake of somebody our house whether your finances whatever it may be your time your energy you going to do something or somebody else so that they can have the mountain of experience that you experience and you want them to experience it by the second falls i say that's good enough come down how we know that going down could be just as hard if you got leg problems i mean you go down what does it do to push pressure and so everything's shoving f had a great time i'm driving home to get into around a limpy or someplace cramps in both of my legs horrific pain worst pain i've ever had both my legs are cramped anybody have cramps and you can't do anything you try to stretch it out where you have to normally do rock it out can you walk it out when you're driving you can't walk it out so i'm trying to get off the freeway trying to control the car and i'm in a horrific train that get into the gas station i get out and jeff has told him barest because i get out and i'm crawling around out of the car i just crawl around the world and everybody's looking around when i just lay in the ground to die what i have to do walk it  out you need to do walk at it when you're doing what god called you to do sometimes you just out to walk it out and when you walk out what will god do we give you the grace and the strength to get to the other side so the question to you is what is it god has for you what is the next level that god wants to take you in your christian walk what is it that god wants you to conquer what is that sin that takes you up all the time what is it but about taking that sin that you have and given it to jesus then worry about my sin blood on us what does he do he cleanse us from all unrighteousness it says he purifies us and he washes clane as white as snow and out of that god can do something in the midst of your trial your tribulation your refiners fire and he can turn around and cleanse you and make you to be somebody who brings in reflex the character of jesus christ as close in prayer that i pray that father god whatever trial tribulation whatever melts and that we have to deal with the father god that we will fight