how are you i'm happy as a clam yes well listen i'm happy as a clam too because you're here with us thank you yes you know when i was doing my homework on you a lot of people do not realize  oscar of the audio book industry and i don't even call myself a navigator and i i consider myself a recording artist well how do you prepare for that because i when i was looking over your resume you've got video games you've done novels and i get a lot oh my god would you take a selfie with those and they pulled out this photo of my avatar from grand theft auto where i played this do ranged coke the greatest opportunity as an actor that i've ever had because i was in no position to know where my character was going by the end of season one i'd had a wonderful time but i wasn't prepared for what was going to happen in season two until it's things started to happen and i thought holy crap my life is about but i'm so grateful for and i can tell you what i tell you when scene that you had your food and they wanted to sit somewhere you were sitting or wherever and they poured it and you said whatever you said but i could see it all over you and i said somebody is going to get a big factor that well like that happened that was sort of in the middle of season worked with some great british actors you know you know i mean and including yourself you guys were all in this what was the name turtles ira yeah yeah and you've all done so i mean was there a time when you were back in england that you were like you know what i'm no i'm going to make it and no matter what happen you know i think you just keep at it as you grow you begin to discover what it is that's important to you like when you work with like with a director like craig auto who really knows how to connect with an actor you know he gives you the kind of juice to bring your a game you know because he trusts you and in the early days of my acting there was more of a level of desperation will ever work again you know and as you get older and more comfortable within yourself collaborating with people like greg and the other people that i have worked with it just gets rid of a richer experience as you get older that was morphed into at one time we had thirty three networks a b c c b s and now we've got you know so many different you know channels and opportunities for people to work how was it changes as far as your position being on set and the culture of show business the culture is very much the same it's a responsibility when whether you're doing an audio book a commercial a movie a t v show you're there to tell a story and bring truth to it if you can bring truth to it it will come through the only difference now is that there's a ton more of it than there ever was yeah the point about netflix and why it was so important in my particular journey is that it's not network it was out there so you start to create this buzz simply because netflix netflix floats in the ether and people go are inch house of cards it we created bingeing because people had an opportunity no matter where they were on the planet to go oh let me grab that in and watch th and tell a good story and connect it's all about connection that's for sure you know what you're saying about telling a good story and doing so many things it's very inspiring to hear that because i do journalism i've written another book i perform i do stand up i occasionally act for someone and humanity in there just it's like someone like you were cold and suddenly there's a fire in it and you can do this around the character i mean that's what it felt like watching you do it it was just so it was magical when g i do in my life is sort of to justify something that is a quirky and i am a collector so i've been collecting celebrity recipes anything that i'm a celebrity recipe and so you have to justify why you and of also getting back to the true character of people you know because we will see people on the red carpet looking old gas or whatever but the end of the day they could go home and be just the most down to earth people you know the light of hope  when you had to let's say critique someone or what how did you approach it is i just put in games and i might go to ruin someone's day but you know right well i might sit where you are and if i want to write funny stuff no matter what i do you know i was covering something that's as earnest as fashion can sometimes you know social media getting you know i get you all up everywhere on social media and or you to go go what have you want to say it social media is very good now when it comes to helping us change the norms for example shirts disabled body bodies not air you know it was it was a logo she just came up with now she has got this great logo not barbie i love it not barbie like not every woman is barbie now you win it all out and made a had an incredible community of two thousand five hundred hearing and mostly deaf actors playing various future roles in the film and when i was researching this film as we were writing it one of the things that i was looking for was groups where people who were tough would get together and these existed in the past but they don't anymore and so i was a little confused about that and i was educated on set how nowadays it was incredible for people who are deaf especially are signing their or face timing it's brought this entire community because the people who we had as part of our film live in rural michigan and pennsylvania and not in any metropolis metropolis yes actor and thank you he has the story begins on a rural road in ohio and in the fall and as the seasons progress and as he faces more and more challenges we get to see these layers starting to peel off and so there's a very strong deaf storyline to the film and part of that is also trying to to see how this character becomes part of the community because of a tragic accident because of terrible things that can happen in our lives where it actually brings him closer to who he really is and makes him uncover his life and it sounds very cliche but the journey of those like knowing that we're going from resentment celebration is astonishing and the symbolism immediately is there and again i say i watched it when i say i watched it four or five times i did watch it for five times and immediately t symbolism i super nerd over here i took notes you know why i think it's movie but listen i'm a college professor what do you expect the road the road in the beginning you know and you see this young man standing here but yet behind very much throughout the production of this film and thanks to these guys as well was was one of going on this journey of again that disconnection but then trying to work through your own internal struggles and chaos which to me as a writer it binds us much more so than things that we experience at times in the greater world that you know my mom had passed away and the beginning of this film there was this moment of sitting in where this sort of began as i was being inspired to begin writing this and working with frankie to develop the story was how do we take someone who is so out of touch with themselves and find access to them opening their heart which i think is the most incredible journey and the end result of that is i truly feel that once you learn to love yourself yes you can then go to do for others and that's the message of this film yes th in his in his to the situation is mired himself in at the glory that surrounds him you know it from a natural world standpoint it's spectacular to look at  grass the weather the weather is i also noticed the other there were there were days that frank you seemed happy and it was sun shining out of what is one of my favorite sayings that you always have to correct me on this because he in again we don't hear this is what i like so much about this one scene he's smiling sun shining he says i just want to he's helpings guy because he's a mechanic in the movie as we all know but he says to this guy no i yeah you know when we're talking about people who are different yes i think it's so important we want to and we were discussing the normalization factor of this that this film really supports there's a moment of accept of one of the characters in the film where he finally is actually mal this and it's very musical montage in the film but he says i'm deaf and it's a real turning point the film because he is starting to embrace who he really is and where he is in his journey and not just that i have got to say what i love about it we don't hear him say it when we see him and we feel  it through repetition with the dialogue and other factors so that i hear people the audience could actually understand everything that was being signed and or what you people read lips so that because you know i  was very surprised myself how keaton i have been keeping the volume off and watching t v at night and kind of still getting what people are actually saying and the character who goes deaf in the film it's a skill he needs to learn to survive utility and i called him up he'd been in a movie called tiger r and yes very well and i pitched the idea to him and he said i just got goosebumps on him so it was fascinating to learn about him how he's actually signed for twenty years he has multiple huge family a lot of them are actually in our film playing the roles and some of them are hard of hearing who are playing those characters but he has deaf relatives who he's signed with for more than twenty years and i've been friends with him for and these guys and the cast so passionate about this object and we've overcome so many different hurdles to try to get this this beautiful story out to the world so you just as a filmmaker you just have to do what you have to do  got to change someone's do the sound yourself there are many scenes in this film where i actually saw somebody mike some some sorry some some lovely or mikes on the actors tested levels put the sound down and just started shooting as a sort of talker for a director  and what i also want to mention with both frank and barber here is that i really wanted to work with their strengths and also look for frank against type frank is the most hysterical brilliant comedian who i have had the pleasure to craig it was tell a good story which really when you go to the movies and you want popcorn that's what you want and you stand that i think so too you guys have been great i love th titled ron thank you