because it's complicated but we'll give you the latest information well also talk i think at some length about michael jackson and the movie that aired on h b o the documentary very very tragic and sad right also tell you about the how the trump trends banned in the military was worked over at a congressional hearing and now some former service secretaries of come out against the ban a thirty seven year old who worked for an anti l g b tea hate group is now a federal judge for life as are so many yeah but in better news the social security administration this week celebrating last week very specious reasons reasons to but an out lesbian was the big winner in the first round i mean big winner in the voting for the mayor of tampa we are going to war in the deaths of a wall veteran and topeka leading trans activists and there was a breakthrough for l g b t o u right in warsaw and we hope a breakthrough although we're a little afraid of the consequences of the  now every year there is this conference on the retroviruses and opportunistic infections so the reason you're hearing this news now is that the conference is taking place in seattle scientists are presenting their papers this one is not only being presented at the conference but is written up in nature magazine so if you're looking for the full story you can get nature magazine to see this but this is the one that made front page news  the deal you may remember many quite a few years ago a guy named timothy ray brown known at the time originally as the berlin patient was purported to have been cured hiv that it had been eradicated from his body which of course was worldwide headlines because that has been the problem all along people get hiv we can treat it we can control it but can we ever get rid of it and there was never any case of anyone having gotten rid of it and we should say oh another case is they can't get rid of it they can make you one detectable to the point where you are not infectious anymore right so that is the current state of affairs but the gold standard the goal has always been to take a child be positive people people living with hiv and get rid of the virus entirely because even though you can control on fewer and fewer medications that work better and better ideally you would not have it in the first place right so timothy where a brown had hiv and he had cancer he had leukemia and he really in bad shape and so they were going to do a bone marrow transplant a stem cell transplant for his leukemia they had no idea that it would do anything for his h i v but it turned out that the donor of the material for the bone marrow had a gene mutation that happened to help his h i b it change she changed his immune system because that's what a bone marrow transplant  and the new immune cells he got didn't have the receptor that hiv cells would attach to refresh me did they not consciously choose a donor who had this element so they might have something to do with the twenty nine hundred years well known in looking at h i v over the past decades that we've been working on this the past forty years that we've figured out some of the mechanism of h i v s so that we knew that  how the virus attach to cells was an important thing to look at and to see if we could interrupt that connection and that's what protease inhibitors are about they inhibit part of the virus from replicating so that's what happened with timothy ray brown the oh my god his the hiv has disappeared and they followed him for a long time and years and years went by and no h i v reappearing because you're always worried the drugs well one of the tricky things of this that we've discovered with this in looking at all of this in the ensuing years and talking about this new case is that in fact we always knew there were different strains  c r five delta thirty two but one of the uses natural immunity in epidemics why don't why doesn't everybody die when there's an epidemic or a plague in fact this same factor was the thing that protected people from the black with the great plague so you know people have it in the family and then they can't get the disease that is killing everybody else there are many factors we've been studying over the years people who seem to have been exposed a lot and didn't acquire a charity people who have by hiv but never progressed to a disease state all of this is been studied a lot over the years but no one has come up with any final answers so this conference comes along now this year and it turns out that there is a second patient and maybe a third and fourth there following a couple of other people people who well there are  received the bone marrow plants some have failed already but a couple of other as are in the early stages of c mean to have the virus cleared it will take longer to see if that's true so this new case is now called the london patient and he stayed anonymous at the moment because he wants to make himself available for scientific study and he doesn't want to become subject to you know press mania or whatever but he marrow transplants and the mechanism of this to see if this can be useful on a wider scale without having to give everyone a very difficult and dangerous bone marrow transplant plan now to move to the timothy guy only had to do it once and he had a milder experience but he seems to have at this point about eighteen months off the off any anti i v drugs seems to have cleared the virus although we know the case of the child in mississippi who we thought had cleared the virus with a heavy dose of drugs when she was first born but then twenty one months later the virus reappeared so eighteen months off these years says the you know the problem with with this is that it is not scalable meaning you can't you would on a mass scale with with lots of people because it's so risky and so expensive but the question is does it point towards other therapies that can be used down the line in order to either cure or treat hiv me well you remember the guy in china the scientist who did some rogue gene editing and the entire world came down on him and said oh my god you're making mutant humans and and aliens and how dare you do this on this individual basis but it turns out that what he was trying to do is a lot of what this study points to which is finding ways to change your system so that you can become for instance immune to hiv right now we are years and years away from this being available on any practical level and in it may or may not ever be available to the thirty five million people living with hiv be around the world but it is important that we continue doing this work for them we can't just dismiss them as so they have it it's too late we're not going to deal with them and who knows where this research could lead for all sorts of people of all sorts of things we should point out because we don't talk about it all the time but thirty five million people have died of  not available and it may not be available in any form in any way for another decade or who knows when i have always been a skeptic about cures but but i find this to be interesting and hopeful news in opening up our mom lines to the different approaches and it's usually quite skeptical i had i had my bloodwork done last week and got into a talk with the with the person taking the blood about the whole thing about thera knows that company that so they could take a drop of blood and we're going to see a documentary about bats about that crazy woman who was running that at that  m and who maybe go probably is going to prison but they they said it was because of all this publicity and it's been disproven for years now that she was a fraud people still come in and say can't you just take a drop of blood into everything i read in the paper and you have so we have to be careful about what's in the popular press versus what's real and right so our goal here is to tell you yes this is interesting news yes this appears to be a real case  yes there are a couple more maybe coming along but for people out of thirty five million it's not something then your hat on now when i was on this group me two other articles about this factor this immune this genetic mutation that prevents you from getting h i b which is what they used to try to prevent you from getting some strains that are very very important to say that yeah and that's again but that's been around for a long time i used to hear that it was like one percent of people of northern european ancestry well i mean i read the scientific literature it's more like ten percent of people of northern european and west asian ancestry and it varies by region and terms of you know how many people have this in the region now it reported a five year decline in the u s a jovian section rate which went on from two thousand and thirteen to twenty sixteen has stalled house toad's so we're not getting to the finish line here there's after that dramatic decline and then i read about what's protection once they are doing things like taking plan well that's the thing they're using protection against h i c and these said this is a very discreet cohort it is people who go to these sexual health clinics and least twice a year than truvada so that it's now been officially certified as a better drug for pre exposure prophylaxis better bone density results better kidney help so that's another good thing coming out of abuse survivors i just found the whole thing so sad i certainly didn't have any doubts about the stories they were telling and their families were tallying and everybody was telling and i just cultivated says none of this could have happened he was wonderful but obama still feels compelled to say these things well i don't know whether he was not abused because he was celebrity or whether he just is still caught up in the inability to talk about the most interesting thing to me is because what a lot of people say about these two guys who are the subjects of this documentary is what you testified that michael never did it who went on the stand and live and  l not lied they don't say he lied before you know well but the thing is they work they were kids when this happened they were seventy seven years old and sometimes it went on for years and they knew and michael told them if you tell about this my life will be over and your life will be over and some of them were just coming into their careers and they didn't want to be known as someone who was molested also wanted to save michael they love us so michael even though he did all this to him they loved him what they found is that when they had children of their own they looked at their little kids and they said if somebody tried to do as to my kid i would want to kill and that's come out and say i don't want this to happen to anybody else it's just i don't they felt guilty of course for not having come out earlier because you probably went on to to abuse a lot of other kids but one of them also talked about how guilty he felt knowing the documentary was about to air for having talked about what michael said to me felt guilty towards michael and he had betrayed him it's very complex it was if you haven't seen it it's so important to watch and i think it's really it's such a compelling and tragic story and tells us so much about the real world and how we cover things up and how people get manipulated and i just found it absolutely riveting in a tragic way and of course the very complex relationship with their mothers who were there when this was happening they were there at neverland  they claimed to have not had a clue when they would have done something if they did and they even asked about it from time to time is anything inappropriate going on while you're in the bedroom with michael but and of course they have trouble forgiving their mom for do not do it and their moms have trouble for giving themselves i don't have the slightest doubt that these women could have thought that their sons were perfectly safe in these situations i think that's entirely believable sure so i'm sorry that their relationships are affected by that and i also think to think the jackson family would have the fa idea this was going on is ridiculous they're it was hidden from them the idea that they think they can testify to whether or not my gold did this is absurd how many  demand i'm sure well big question what's going to happen with a michael jackson musical they you know they say they canceled it out of town because of some union issues but it's still scheduled to bow on broadway and l nottage pulitzer prize winning serious playwright is doing the book and i was not answering questions about whether she's going to stick with this project i don't see how they can i don't either but i can see how up kid at his trial who talked about all this and michael was found not guilty did we ever actually hear the testimony i don't i don't remember hearing it but i can tell you that hearing it now really are effectively let's go do some national news to let's move on all right so the big news in our world this week was all about the trance military band and five and gender service members there they are from left to right the first five they're not the guy on the far end but those first five are all transgender people who have served in i think they're currently serving many of them but they were not allowed to wear disease and you know so so congress is holding hearings because there is a bill in congress to overturn or circumvent the trump attempt to ban trans members from the military so the supreme court is allowed to go into effect pending the court challenges but there are still a couple of bands in a factor injunctions against the ban in effect so even though the supreme court struck down two of the injunctions there are still two remaining so the ban is not in effect yet so congress is hearing this this was the house armed services subcommittee on military personnel the five trance  members of the military showed up to testify and talk about their years and years of blemish free service and then the department of defense send in their representatives to say  serve we're not against the people where we have nothing against these people but they have gender dysphoria and that makes them ineligible to serve and then they were asked well what if someone has had the surgery accusing the pentagon over that testimony of deceiving congress when they told them that medical treatment for trans troops keeps them off duty longer than other personnel they said that there were three hundred ninety three service members with gender  deployed in the middle east and just one of them was unable to complete their service due to any mental health issues and of course that happens for a lot of other people too for other reasons the department of defense testifiers said that they couldn't have trans service members because they require special accommodations and the former secretaries of the air force army and navy and other people came in to say that is nonsense they said that's the same thing you said about african americans serving in the military and it's the same thing you said about gay people serving and always very and women obviously yeah so we'll see where this ends up presumably the house could pass something overturning the bad but with the senate highly unlikely feel about women being drafted would get in the courts are starting to look at that i'm a believer in universal draft for public service and so i think if everybody at a certain age is not a decent guy and specially in terms of l g b t q issues that he has been a terrible guy let's give credit where credit is due i don't know how much this would have been brought street journal did a poll about how you know would you be willing to vote for a woman would you be willing to vote a lot would you be willing to vote for a gay candidate for president and sixty eight percent of their poll said yes other notes for the candidates who are on the trail bernie has declared himself a democrat now though to judge who to judge is going to have his c n n town hall this is the out gay mayor of south bend indiana anti gay hate group because the fourth circuit which is marilyn north carolina south carolina virginia and west virginia the trump people now have one third of the judges in several circuits at this point and they're only getting started and their finger at a way speaking of rushing to rush even more through  to stop this you know we have to take back the senate in order to in order to get these jugglers do and there are there are thirty four seats up in twenty twenty twenty two or republican twelve or democrat but  to be an uphill climb so pay attention to your senate races in your states and the presidential race that we don't do but we do it one piece of good news from the federal government and that comes from of all places the social themselves married by the woman oh i said mcdonnell mcconnell thank you so they got themselves married in minnesota they went to one county first they read the law and the laws in many states didn't specify laws because it wouldn't occur to anyone to have to question that so they said well it doesn't specify so we want to marriage license and they were refused to one county they went to the next county and they got a license they filled out the the in this country a minister is an agent of the state in him actually so solemn nine is in your marriage you get a license from the state and then you go to a minister or a justice of the peace and then there was an attempt to overturn settled this can't do it when a stream court said was there's not a federal issue here yes because marriages were decided by the states and they didn't look to see whether the protection federal laws should be so security recognition of this and pension benefits or whatever and the social security administration just just told them that yes they are recognizing the marriage well have been married for forty eight years happy anniversary you may not have known it but now it's official that's a record for a gay couple yes i want to get a marriage yes well the colorado couple yeah well i'm trying to remember exactly when that was the document that was around the day because men are yeah but one of them died so you know whatever all right anyway congratulations to jack and michael couple of other federal notes we've read that the border patrol is tracking new york city protesters against what they're doing now and then they do this to justify their existence their huge budgets they could be a lot and then the my pillow guy limbo spoke at c pac the guy who sells you my pillow he told the crowd that trump was chosen by god and called him the greatest president in history maybe you don't want my pillow or he's now selling the my pillow pad or your mattress other political news around the nation well we reported very happily last week that fairbanks alaska had passed a trans woman who's on the affair banks city council they passed it forward too but the mayor of their banks has vetoed it and says he wants a public referendum because this is just too controversial you have got to be nice for the citizens  for banks let's have an all out public fight about the humanity of gay people well this office city council can override the veto but they have to have a vote of five to one to do it so one person would have to change their vote  to flip somebody flip someone in fairbanks in utah we told you that the mormon church is amenable to banning conversion therapy but some of the legislators aren't and they're trying to gut the ban on conversion therapy for minors they want  while therapist to have some discretion about changing sexual talking about sexual orientation changing with kids all they want to ban now is electro shock therapy and telling kids that they can and should it's too complex for me in tampa florida good news they held a may or primary and there were seven candidates and one candidate got forty eight percent of have trouble believing she could lose a well of it's happened before yeah but be sure but the guy who came in second who only got fifteen percent of the vote david strong as billionaire or more rich guy  women pro environment anti gun i don't know how sincere any of them are just undergone conversion therapy perhaps but yes she got forty eight percent of the vote he got fifteen but all her other opponents could ban against her she'd be the first lesbian mayor of a major city in the south east that would be great along with laurie lightfoot in chicago and she with us candidates for council down there  yes an african american and there's not another african american lesbian marie had been who was elected to the city council elected older men in chicago and be a twenty eight year incumbent and african american old and from the north side but in west hollywood california may they have a city council who take turns being mayor so the current mayor john duran who is out gay is been in office there for a long time most of the council members are sometimes all of them are all somewhat anyway when you hear about him well he's been accused of sexually harassing fellow members of the gay men's chorus and now a woman he's on the board or something and he's been accused of i think sexually harassing people around city hall too and he was under pressure to resign he has withdrawn as mayor he will remain on the course of health issues health issues and toil but he's not going out without a fight he said oh by the way he also worked as an attorney for this guy who had to africa young african american die of drug proposed a bill to include l g b t to do because we've talked about the do not harm act in congress and i think this is important and it's been introduced by the democrats it affirms that religious the religious freedom restoration act which was passed in the clinton administration in a wanted to have it both ways he condemned the parade for excluding people but he was planning to march and he said you know i thought about it i slept on it i woke up i couldn't do it i couldn't march it reminds we will move we're first asking people about same sex marriage and they didn't want to answer the question i'm talking about liberal democrats but alan hevesi was the city comptroller and he met with the staff and they said who just come out for civil unions and he said look if i'm for that everybody who's going to he's going to just tell them i'm for marriage and that's how that went down and in the demo the new democratic representative from staten island max rose also refused to mark so thank you to both of you and they had the same paths for all parade out in queens this past weekend about how the united methodist church and its greater wisdom had voted to reinforce its bans on l g b t clergy or performing same sex marriages mainly because it's a worldwide church and there are conservative there are conserves united states but they're really conservative overseas so various methodist churches around the country have been reacting to that and one in dallas  did something very clever i think they took their sign outside the church and they covered up the united methodist part of it so the north haven united methodist church is now a north haven church because they put a big grain flag over the united methodist part of the you know the united methodist church is a merger of some strains of methodism from the past so why not just call with the inclusive methodist church or starship well chick fil a wanted to use a song of the jefferson starship for a commercial so she said all right you can use this song and i'm going to use the proceeds to fund using the song so i don't know you know it's is it better to just refuse to do business with them or is it better to take their money and assign it elsewhere well right or college blocked chick for life from coming to the campus over the stance of the owner and the dean of the college of business administration cynthia newman resigned as a dean saying the school's decision clashes with my christian beliefs it was fried chicken anyway chick leg is a religion in the south people get quite excited about it well let's wait a second oh she's staying about the way she's staying on as a professor she just doesn't feel she can be a dean for this for this school that doesn't respect her religious beliefs ok back to l a and the ed box story and box thing big democratic donor older white guy who has had two abuse and the dies this is under investigation by the f b i and the state attorney general but it was catholics who said we don't want you in the st patrick's parade bishop because of all your cover ups of abuse of minors data looks at how many people a dad to five openly as to the gallup poll yes which is a conservative poll well it's a poll it's yes somebody's calling you on the phone yeah so this is a survey of adults and it is about them being willing to say that they are l g b or t and the current number is four and a half percent of adults in the u s are willing to openly fi and they broke it down by states the lowest was in north dakota two point seven percent and the highest was in oregon while highest was in the district of columbia nine point eight percent  eight percent are female yeah interesting and twenty nine percent of people over the age of twenty five are raising children and we struggle more economically yeah then our non l g b to counter more food in secure twenty three the night of the rebellion worked with was drafted into the vietnam war disowned by a family for coming out of cetera but a lifelong activist gay liberation front that's right and in to a kansas we have lost stephanie mont at age sixty one a trim prominent trans activist in topeka she had a heart attack she managed the equality kansas chapter in topeka she was also a social worker active in the democratic party and has a pending suit to change her gender on her birth certificate the state had denied or lambda legal took the case and that is still active now what's this with the bar in queens bob barr in woodside queens has closed it was gay owned and operated catering mainly to latino lesbians there they are it provided the initial support for the queen's pride parade in ninety three there are just three remaining lesbian bars in new york henrietta hudson and the cubbyhole and ginger's and greenwich village and ginger's and park slope so bars are going by the wayside and if you want to look at a little history the current issue of new york magazine has a great two page spread on the history of gay life in brooklyn it's of course a quick survey but it's a fascinating stuff in the brassica the old u b t rights bill was pulled from the agenda after a three hour debate they keep trying to do that but they can't get it bad bills are advancing in tennessee the georgia senate reintroduced entail g b t q religious freedom or its restoration act but washington state senate passed a bill to require a declaration that affirms a l g b t and i just have that our rights provide shelter our community center anti discrimination laws sex education the right wing is freaking out but there is a happy crowd around the mayor celebrating and we told you that the lesbian prime minister of sir b a who the conservative government is  her partner had a baby through artificial insemination which is and he's a doctor which is illegal in serbia not or it's not sanctioned in serbia but there's been a lot of backlash from lesbians who say you don't have any legal relationship to this child feminists who support trance people signed a big letter in scotland supporting trans education in the schools and emma thompson signed on to the letter to she is an intelligent we told you about the prime minister of luxembourg xavier patel well he confronted arab leaders over their repression of gay rights at a summit of the e u and arab leaders you could have heard a pin drop in the room in egypt there he's married to a man and so this group passed a thing of about human rights but they wouldn't pass a thing about freedom of expression he said i'm gay i'm married to a man some of you your country's would kill me saying nothing was not an option a tactical maneuver in china with the win the oscars would telecast they censored rummy moloch speech when he referred to pretty mercury as a gay man they translated gay man as a special group and then of course the censoring the film as is egypt where the tourism minister now excuse me the immigration ministry you know tweeted favorably about romney but also was censoring the film yeah but here's the thing they're taking one minute out of the film because that's how much gay content homosexuals in south korea the national human rights association rejected a petition by married gay couple brit and a korean guy they were married in the u k but they would like to have marriage discuss in taiwan freedom to marry is welcoming the same sex marriage legislation even though it's sort of you know out of the civil code and then some conservatives are trying to scuttle parts of it in israel out well he sued and he got forty two hundred dollars which he's giving forty five i have forty five hundred but he's giving it away to the legal group that helped him in british columbia a judge ruled that a fourteen year old trans boyo has the capacity to consent to his hormone treatment and that was daddy doesn't want it and his mom says it's ok and in iran a lesbian i think she's a lesbian is waiting in sentencing after being charged with acting against national great show leave it to larry is that joe's pub this weekend if you want to go see that and i want to let you know that billions is coming back to the show time on the seventeenth week from this sunday with  binary character who is such a hit on the series who also appeared on project runway as a judge last week and the challenge was to make non binary clothing nice no i gave a not so hot review to the robert mablethorpe film with matt smith as maple thorpe but i went to the guggenheim museum to implicit tensions maple for now that's through july the tenth it is you know it's a trip through his photographic history they own a lot of it that is a much better way to appreciate the artistry of robert is just to look at his work and they've got a lot of it on display really naughty stuff is in the back i get the corker and you know you know he  song give stupidity it's what are we going to do about the rich the forgotten child and on social media so what i want to check that out if you want to feel old