thank you bill it's a pleasure to be here i enjoy seattle my son resides here and i'm always glad to visit and just to give a little background you are an emeritus professor of philosophy that's correct about thirty five years teaching university level courses principally in logic critical thinking scientific reasoning either in my ph d in the history in the philosophy of science i've probably quite a lot definitely we can say you're familiar with the scientific method that's my area of specialization actually the nature of science scientific laws scientific explanation scientific reasoning so as far as people agreeing or disagreeing with any theory that you may espouse at least you know how to do critical analysis and do something what i do primarily is to sort out arguments and evaluate their relative strengths to determine which explanation of the data is the most adequate that's the sort of thing in which i'm expert now you're a leading proponent in the nine eleven truth circles you're also the founder and i think code executive of the scholars for nine eleven truth that's right bill i founded scholars for nine eleven truth in december two thousand and five and invited steve jones to be my co chair by the end of two thousand and six we'd had a parting of the ways because steve and his friends kevin ryan especially were fixated on nano  engineers for nine eleven truth richard gage has been that's been kind of a central focus of architects and engineers about work that i did relatively recently with the mark hightower who is a chemical engineer  has led to the realization that nano thermite can't possibly have been responsible for the destruction of twin towers there is a principle of material science believe that in order to destroy a material you have to have a nano thermite is only eight hundred ninety five meters per second which basically means you can't get there from there so even within the nine eleven truth community not everybody's right well of course that's correct yeah since there are competing groups with alternative theories they and which are mutually inconsistent i correct myself not everyone is right in that what the government has told us is not true but as far as the theories that they're reaching for alternatively when there is a lot of ambiguity and discord where the history of science is replete with research groups competing with one another this was particularly clear in the for example in the search for the structure of the d n a molecule or the double heli where jim watson published a book about it that is really quite fascinating about how different scientific groups can be pushing their approach and trying to secure the objective of solving the problem with all the honors and awards and recognition goes with it so having competing groups per se is not a bad thing although there are those in the movement who don't realize that and how would you in a nutshell present nine eleven truth to our viewers all the evidence suggests the nine eleven was a enough officially sanctioned national security a vent that was approved by all the highest levels of the american government with complicity from the  government and its execution from the most saw and so on hearing israeli government and kurds with the american government that's right you can actually trace back you know all attempts to build up the idea of terrorism  but it seems very clear that the events of nine eleven were in order to secure a new book the man to keep these massive expanders going to the military industrial complex with the demise of the soviet union around  buggy man and nothing could be better than something else shadowing allusive as terrorist groups that aren't even divine geographically as specially when for political purposes if you need a new terrorist event you can arrange it blame it on some shadowy group such as for example didn't really exist didn't actually it was an american contrivance during the resistance of the soviet invasion of afghanistan where osama bin laden was our man in afghanistan and we were with him as a blind stinger missiles that were taking down the soviet helicopters and drove the soviets out so what we have now is the insurgents who are resisting through our conduct is really just everybody in the countries that we're occupying and trying to occupy who are resisting us are from their nations point of view freedom fighters i mean ronald reagan made that phrase but evident in its relativity when he applied it to the contras in nicaragua who were anything but but the you know that it's a phrase that works here because it leads you to appreciate that we are the invader is the occupiers and they are the resistance on behalf of the national interests of iraq and afghanistan so this does hark back to the military industrial will congressional complex no doubt about it in fact you know i commonly ascribe three motives to nine eleven which were all oil israel and ideology oil by taking control of the mass iraqi oil fields one of the largest in the world which you can use two different ways you can take it out of the ground cheap and solid dear or you can merely leave that in the ground and thereby elevate the price of the other supply in the world israel had a great interest in dismantling modern arab states such as iraq which had a national health care system national public education reliable infrastructure providing water and electricity artifacts and antiquities dating back thousands of years it was an atrocity when we destroyed iraq with saddam hussein had nothing to do with nine eleven nor did osama bin lot and in fact we've recently had an article published in thirteen june two thousand and ten in the new york times talking about the vast mineral wealth in afghanistan as though we hadn't known about it before gold copper especially li which is used in the electric car batteries in computers and we all know that riches and is bordering russia practically why would the russians allow us to succeed in afghanistan when we did not allow them to succeed  afghanistan and no one has been able to conquer afghanistan from the time of alexander the great and in certainly the soviets did not and there's no reason to suppose we're going to as a former marine corps officer i observe that when barack obama says we're going to be there to twenty twenty four there's no possible military justification for that but if we are doing to afghanistan what the bush and cheney administration were doing to the united states according to paul o'neill the first secretary of the treasury namely lutein then we're going to be there to twenty twenty four until we conclude our looting of the vast mineral wealth of afghanistan and of course protecting the poppy crop there because the cia become the biggest drug running operation  the world bill i mean it's a shame that united states has been reduced to this level of corruption deceit and deception do you think that maybe some of the standoff between russia and america is taking place in syria now where the syrians are arming the russians are arming the syrians and the police really america and israel are arming the insurgents it's been my opinion for some time that russia was not going to allow syria to fall any more than russia or china would allow iran be destroyed or decimated in the latest reports we have or that these massacres that are being ascribed to assad are actually being perpetrated by the the rebels that they are you know it could be blackwater you know when you bring about a massacre and you blame it on the other guy for the false flag concept yes you can go back to remember the maine when we it was an explosion of the battleship and of ana harbor there was no evidence spaniards or cubans anything to do with it but in the first newspapers blew it up and inflame the spanish american war and we had a repeat of that with talking golf and when baines johnson the gulf of tonkin was absurd lyndon later said for all i knew they were shooting at whales out there now want to bring you back to to the twin towers of the day the events of nine eleven itself and we've got oil israel and ideology we've got america with israel is your finger them as possible culprits for the events of nine eleven the military industrial congressional oil complex is it really plausible that secrets of that scale can be kept lots of times as has happened during the manhattan project for example the development the atomic bomb thousands of people knew but there weren't any leaks and when you have a case like this of planning nine eleven people are being killed bill you know it says very much a in the aftermath of j assassination over one hundred witnesses who put too much met untimely death one was a deputy sheriff who'd seen someone he thought was lee oswald running out the front of the book depository and getting into a green rambler that belonged to ruth paine who had been his landlord and which may have even been driven by and the tories assassin for the cia so he wound up being shot in the head in a sheriff's office by an officer was allegedly clean his weapon well things like this happen all too often we have two really important witnesses for example in relation to nine eleven one was very jennings who is an emergency management expert for new york who was in building seven that morning he went up to rudy giuliani's command and control center where he had his own in the bed an air and water supply found having the sandwiches still steaming coffee firemen came along we got to get you out of here explosions were going off a stairwell was blown out from under him at one point he felt themselves stepping over dead bodies it was pitch black he could only tell from the feel rather than see them when he got out he gave these interviews to reporters about it some of which you can still find on you tube others have been sanitized but just a few days before and i s t the national institute of standards and technology which was killed doing the heavy lifting for the bush administration covering all this up would release it report about building seven very jennings was found dead it was a guy you could of based on his own direct personal experience of contradicted what i asked he was going to report again now let me let me go because circle back to the point what happened to the passengers can't didn't somebody do the research and backtrack all of the passengers on the planes that vanished and was there some inconsistency what no planes there i mean is not that there were no planes at all involved in nine eleven for example i've talked about the plane that was flown toward the pentagon and then switched over what it really means is that none of the officially designated crashes took place that flight eleven did not hit the north tower flight seventy seven did not hit the pentagon on flight ninety three did not crash in janesville flight one seventy five did not hit the south tower now we have bureau of transportation statistics records that show flights eleven and seventy seven were not even scheduled that day as shanksville i think most people a little dubious about any plane except for the u a ninety three movie all the alleged phone calls and everything else are quite ridiculous i mean even as long ago as two thousand and six one of the members of scholars pointed out to me that those passer conversations were supposed to have been made with the cockpit voice recorder but that cockpit voice recorders don't record voices and bass or compartments plus of course when the terrorists discovered that the passengers were breaking into the cockpit and threatening to take control of the plane when they decided to crash it into the ground and they gave a prayer all akbar all akbar which of course is arabic for god is great god is great but as a muslim member of scholars pointed out to me in islam there's a prayer for every occasion and for those who are facing imminent death the correct prayer is in arabic there is but one god all of mohammad is prophet which means that those who were doing the script for flight ninety three didn't know enough to get it right well they they were the ones that worked on the just jessica lynch story as well as the kind of tillman story as well and they thought they had credentials that's right i think write a lot actually on pat tillman it's very clear he was assassinated i think he made a huge mistake of telling noam chomsky that he thought the war was a complete huge blunder and waste of lives and treasure and he was going to go public and that the bush cheney administration were so alarmed at this prospect that the range for him to be killed pilots for nine eleven truth has done absolutely brilliant work site near ground communications and have established number one that flight ninety three was in the air that day but that it was over champagne urbana illinois at the same time it was supposed to be crashing in shanksville and number two that flight one seventy five was also in the air that day but that it was over harrisburg and pittsburgh pennsylvania at the same time it was supposed to be entering the south tower one reason information suppressed is right on the home seven had an article about the cia in the media where officials of the agency were boasting that their greatest successes in infiltrating and controlling the media had been with c b s with time life and with the new york times and in that era if you control those you pretty much had a lock on the on the on the on the news and we have of course former director william colby of the cia telling us that the agency owns everyone of significance in the major media i think we have to take what colby was telling us at face value now you mentioned earlier on oil which is pretty obvious and resources and you know goes on with quote neo colonialism ideology but that takes us to wolfowitz silverstein yeah who it took private control the world trade center for the first time in its history just six weeks before fire the security team that had been providing security since the buildings first open hundred seventy and went ahead and insure them against terrorist attacks he took double indemnity and he wound up benefiting something like over four point four billion dollars on one hundred fourteen million dollar investment we just  had richard falk judge richard falk come to town and he spoke and he gave a very eloquent talk and his soft key manner he made some real explosive comments but he's talking about that the the the small partner in the america israel relationship now is the controlling partner in the relationship do you think that possibly there has been a reverse reversal of role that israel is really annexing or occupying united states oh yes i think those who sometimes refer to this as the united states of israel are not far off the mark when it comes to foreign policy and we've got nine of the nine eleven event with the involvement of some what i call a loose design is is basically smoking gun proof of that well that's true and we also have on the ground on nine eleven further corroboration not only do we have the five dancing israelis who were dressed in arab garb and were celebrating giving high fives and all that as they filmed the destruction of the twin towers from liberty state park on the day of the attack a couple in jersey city new jersey reported that they saw a group of men on top of an adjoining building filming the first jet hit the north tower and cheering they assumed that these men were arab terrorists call the police the police caught these men but they were not arabs they were israelis here in the united states without legal permits they work for a moving company that according to forward magazine a local jewish publication has possible ties with the mossad who were these men who had prior knowledge why was this story suppressed and why did our government allow them to return to israel but we also have police radio transcripts of two other groups of israelis with a lot of explosives in their van that were attempting to blow up the george washington bridge on the one hand on the lincoln tunnel on the other those events of course did not take place but we do have the footage including even a report from dan rather talking about it which once again has been really basically erased from memory but there's a tremendous amount of indication of israeli involvement in nine eleven of which the american people are generally unaware and going to night  right about nine eleven not not really concerned about could it tall without headlines that probably transpired in this country i think it's a phenomenon psychologists revert to as cognitive  mother who discovers that evidence that her husband's been molesting their daughter it's so traumatizing it's so threatening to her core beliefs that she suppresses and can deal with the information so that years later when the truth comes out she really can explain why she did nothing about it i believe the american people are so committed to believing their government is nurturing and supportive of them that the idea that they would comedic a grotesque crime of this magnitude involving the deaths of three thousand fellow citizens to promote a political agenda is something that they find intimidating and fearful and they're afraid to go there you know what when what's going to happen what do we need to do if we if we're to wake up from this stupor and do something about the conspiracies surrounding nine eleven and actually the government conspiracies surrounding on them what consistency do want to regain their democracy w believe are again democracy involves four or five steps getting rid of electronic voting machines they've been used to steal election after election i'm convinced they were used even in wisconsin in our recent recall they were certainly used in two thousand to give bush florida they were used in two thousand  and a grossly obvious case to give of ohio to bush again they were actually sending the raw data to a republican massage machine in chattanooga tennessee before it came back and was released to the public it's it's cheaper and more reliable and does more to promote community cooperation and to have paper ballots which are counted by hand i mean as machines are just atrocious and anyone who has studied computer science at all as i have knows how easy it is it can be as simple as simply knowing which candidate is going to win give their vote to your preferred candidate which i believe actually happened in wisconsin here because as i look at the situation tom barrett should have won about fifty three fifty four percent of the vote in walker maybe forty three forty four but the actual numbers were reversed the reported numbers were reversed that's the first thing the second is to have public financing for all federal elections as citizens united and other supreme court decision have been catastrophic to democracy because they have a lot of corporations unlimited spending on the basis of the promise that money is speech which is an absurdity i mean one of the reasons why is the estate tax is such a good idea though the republicans like to describe it as the death taxes to keep a small number of families from accumulating massive wealth because with that massive wealth goes great political influence so you've got to get get it out of politics you need public financing for all federal election third and perhaps most idealistically you need to get lobbyist out of writing legislation in congress there are perhaps fifty or even one hundred lobbyists for every member of congress and they wind up writing the very legislation that congress passes to govern their own industries that's completely wrong and it reduces congress to a meaningless cipher are just as the agents of these corporations and industries in forth and this will sound very surprising we must reinstate the draft when we had the draft every family knew that issues of war and peace could affect them personally because their sons and daughters might be involved and have to serve and this is part and parcel for why during the vietnam war there was a great deal of public agitation complaints and activism in the anti war movement but with regard to iraq and afghanistan because we have a there are me most families don't spend a lot of time worrying about it because their sons and daughters are at stake so in my opinion those four steps would go a long way to restoring democracy in the united states i only wish i could say bill i had any confidence that they're going to come to pass something so it sounds in a way like we just are going to be able to roll that rock of that steep hill to get our democracy back and that the the evil doers american evil doers coupled with the israeli evil doers probably maybe the builder group were when everyone vote one and game over this is not the ending i would prefer for this nation buil but i'm sorry to say that that looks all too likely as to what the future holds for us yes or young folks are on that note i want to thank you for appearing on moral politics and speaking truth as you see it and maybe reaching some people maybe they feel the same way that you do it's not the note they want things in gone and that just maybe they'll fight for this country the van was filled with explosives and the two people and it were israelis in bergen new jersey same day a van with several people in it had set up cameras before the first plane hit they were filming the twin towers and they were celebrating high fives it was a good thing for them police police arrested them all five were israelis all of these reports disappeared from the media this man went to work on the morning of nine eleven the horrific nature of this fraud i'm not going to let him get away with it the evidence suggests the nine eleven was a enough fishel least sanctioned national security event that was approved by all the highest levels of the american government with complicity from the