of seattle washington proudly presents the ministry of bishop howard robinson tearing down the forces of hell here the anointed word of this trailblazer as he demolishes tradition ignorance fear and religious bondage if you seek truth change and understanding allow yourself to meditate on the word of the lord as it is delivered through this anointed vessel empowering you as a believer in  milk and not with solid food for until now you were not able to receive it and even now you are still not a for you or yeah you're still current when there are are you not current whose name is paul and who is apollos but ministers through whom you believe as the lord gave to each one i planted a pall of water but god one and each one will receive his own reward according to his own labor for we are god's fellow workers who are god's field you are god's building according to the grace of god which was given to me as a wise minister builder i have made the foundation and another builds on it but let each one take heed how he feels on  the god of blessing to read it were me of the a fountain of life and light guiding and directing you as you go from day to day i want to preach on the subject it's time to grow up and come alive in time to grow up and come and live within this season where we find ourselves there is a problem within the church there are many who have failed to grow up spiritually we have heard sermons preached see movies encouraging us and have more word available to us now than at any other time in the history of our world yet at the same time we have fallen further away from the true in the living god this season more than any other time in the history of the church the point that i'm making led away by various us always learning but never able to come to the knowledge of the truth it just seems to be a poignant a ccuracy to that word in relationship to where we are today and the church we have a form of godliness but we really don't look for or expect to see brings us into closer relationship with him closer like this to there just seems to be a problem with those who don't the steps of the church and the problem is that many seem to have a form of godliness but fail to really come into  relationship with the truth of the living god that is able to transform us into the mh of his own son jesus the christ that's really what god's looking for is us to be transformed into hear that we're like him within the churches today we feel that as long as we make it to church and pay our time no one should say anything to us and if i don't get my way i'm going to act out like a little maybe until those around me become so on comfortable until they give me my way that sounds like a rant but yet that's how a lot of us are you know we when we don't get our way when things don't happen the way we want to be then we start getting upset we start out start fights and start complaining when in little clip then you are on the outs with those who are the movers and shakers in the church or you don't count as much as those who are part of the  snobbishly look down at you and treat you with this thing i can mistreat you and be little i can look down my nose at you and cause you to know that you don't measure up to those of us that are in the inner circle you just don't measure up spiritually i'm not saying that that's him but i'm just saying that there are people like that who have that mindset and that act that way with all these and many more attitudes we show just how immature we are spiritually we show just how far we are from coming into the likeness of christ we just we manifest the fact that we have truly been converted into the likeness of christ and shine forth his light in the midst of those who practice darkness we just don't do it as a result we  fact missing the deeper things of god we failed to come into the like this of christ we find ourselves in places of darkness and say that we are in the light we find ourselves missing out on the promises and the blessings that god has given for us to come into we become deceit we become downtrodden we become depressed we become discouraged all because of the fact that we really haven't come into what god has called us to come into it that's the likeness of christ well in order for us not to find ourselves coming into this place where we miss out on our defined destiny of the deeper things of god we want to draw your attention to three things that will keep us roland from growing up in god and coming alive grow up at some point well in order for that to happen we need to understand three things first of all the cause we want to deal with the causes of stagnation and the causes of stagnation and  o because a lot of us when we first started off when we first got saved we were excited we were hungry we read our problems daily we spent time in prayer every time the church doors were open we made our way to the church but then something happened along the way where we lost that zeal and lost that hunger and we just got caught on the road where we just went out to have the week we went because secondly walking in promises of god versus walking in the vision of walking in the promises of god versus walking in the vision of god there is a difference and thirdly the deeper things things of god in other words they were stagnated in their walk in their growth and their development and how many times we become stagnated and don't even know the worst thing we think that we're doing everything  supposed to do but in reality we are far from what god's really called us to come in we just haven't come in come close to where it is he's looking for us to me frustrated because my desire was to take you into deeper places but but but i really couldn't do it because you couldn't even comprehend what i'm talking about is like me trying to talk to how we're going to die all about about  to take it deeper i want to take you higher but but but you're not in the place where you can receive it you're not in a place where where you can grasp the whole of it you're not of the place where where you can understand  has to be changed we've got to change our character we got to change who we are if we're going to come into with god really call it the first where he goes and he says when i was when one says is is the word is let us know that we've fallen short we missed the mark because god is the one who is the great one he's the one who has called us together  behave like mere men that's what he says he says you're behaving like we're beat we fail to realize and understand that our nature has been changed when you gave your life to christ you became born eighty year old things are passed the way all things are become new the scripture says so if you are born again you are they turn has changed and you now have divine nature and so you are no longer supposed to be reflecting that old colonel major but our nature is now supposed to be reflecting christ our nature is not supposed to be fretting not in god i believe that carnal or yelled at me for my share is that the first hindrance to our being able to receive the being for things of god is we are yet when we use the word karl it basically means that we're just pretending to human flesh or human characteristic versus divine nature and divine character is sin because when we get more again our nature has been changed you know when we when we were at the baptist church you know all these damn saying we're sinners saved by grace you know and so therefore we're always sinners we're just saved by grace but but when we nature now that we're born again we have a divine nature our natures change so so we can't we can't operate with the same character that we used to have we can operate with the same nature we used to have  strangers in the world and urges a million strangers in the world to abstain from sinful desires which war against your soul we we are now aliens and strangers to the world you should have more in common with the world than you have with the church now because you didn't want to hear the world in the things of the world should be foreign to you now because of the fact that you've been mourning and as a result of that you need to know that the things of the world are now warring against your soul and the things of god which he's trying to bring forth l feel that we used to have to have you know weapons we used to have certain martial arts or skills to be able to survive but now we have to come to a place where we understand that we don't bristle look at the conflicts we can look at the circumstances from a fleshly perspective because it's not fleshly it's spiritual and so therefore we have to understand that just as the conflicts  that we still wrestling with the same stuff year in and hear out if you've really been born again so a lot of that stuff all of that stuff really needs to be behind you and you need to be moving into a new dimension a new relationship with god is because you're still functioning in your flesh that you're still wrestling and struggling with the same things and you have got t talking about heaven is foolishness to that's why when you talk to folks in the streets about about him and you talk to them about about god and stuff like that they look at you like you're crazy because they can't even spirit do not marvel then i say to you you must be born here the wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it but cannot tell where it comes or where it goes so is everyone who is born of th the spiritual realm is totally different from our natural world and you can't really comprehend that you can't understand it as long as you are in your flesh and so the best thing you can do is truly morning again and not just come to church because if you are born again what happens is there is an awakening that takes place in your soul and in your spirit man that causes you to be able to receive and comprehend spiritual insight and spiritual guidance and direction to as long as we are looking at things from our flesh we never really see clearly what is really going  on we always see it from the negative perspective rather than to see what really is taking place when we're looking from our flesh it's always what somebody else is doing against me are you here how somebody is this isn't me how somebody is disrespecting me how somebody is abusing me how somebody is neglecting me how sometimes it's always something i don't meet just like a baby a baby everything is about that babies look for somebody to feed them somebody change a stack or somebody calls somebody that gives transportation when they want to go somebody to feed them don't even look at them strange because they'll start spiritual perspective it causes us to see the deeper issues that are going on the conflicts that are going on in the spirit really what the enemy is really trying to do to get you out of position so that you're not demonstrating the and i may have some sense to me get inside your whole perception is changed to a spiritual perception and you don't see things the same way you used to see them really what happens is go cause you to see yourself what somebody else does to you is secondary to what you do i had to go to someone yesterday i felt i was justified in something i said to somebody and they didn't react the way that i felt they needed to react you know and kind of got next to me so you know it's like the apostle you know they supposed to react a certain way and so so what happened was i was right up here on the altar praying and nasty yesterday and the holy spirit brought to back to my attention a reaction that was in far as i was concerned but it wasn't about what they did it was about how i reacted if you know what i'm saying and i had the goal and i had to ask the person to forgive me for my reaction because of the fact that the holy spirit causes you to see yourself more than he does cause you to see what others are doing  are you hear what i'm saying and that can happen as long as your flesh is alive perception of things is changed big from focusing on flesh fleshly perceptions fleshly understandings to seeing things and understanding what's going on in the spirit realm and functioning in a he says to be carnally minded is death but to be spiritually minded is life and peace you have no peace in the flesh you are restless your your this third you are you are depressed you are upset you always feel a sense of lack of insufficiency you always feel a sense of incompetency not always but you all of those things run through you when you are in your flesh world do you see the difference that i'm trying to make and he says that if you're in the spirit you have life and peace who wouldn't want that who have to go out and get high on marijuana or anything else to have some peace of mind i don't have to go and get drunk on on alcohol and to have some peace of mind  cannot please god as long as we're functioning in the flesh you cannot please god i don't care if you are sure i don't care if you are our camera man i don't care if you don apostle i don't care what your position or what your time list when you're in the flesh you cannot please god you can't please because of sin and the spirit is like because of righteousness so what this basically said is we must ask the question if we are truly in christ because if we're truly in christ the flash has life with given us that the things of the spirit are blocked from us and we cannot receive the things from god that we would receive as long as we are live in the flesh blocks so the question paul answers in first corinthians three three is how do we know when we are in the flesh when we see the manifestation of three elements within our lives and when we fail to be moved by the light of god's word by the spirit of the living god then we know we're in the flesh when the word of god comes to us and it doesn't stir us or motivate us or moves us to it means jealousy jealousy of a husband or jealousy and handed me the intensity of involvement in a situation of another person not that that's basically what he's talking about it is a contentious rivalry where one seems to always be in competition against another person i don't care what it is about they always seem to have a competition in who their wives have some things going on form and somebody of minors there steals and meyer's their ability and he gets angry about it or somebody compliments or about a dress she has  distraught because something good happened the day sleeping peacefully at night and you can't get no sleep tonight because you're so caught up in their life that you can't even see your own life you know there are  both small about it or there and then i'll about they said no no i didn't mean that you know i'm that was that is where i was coming from you understand what i'm saying this is no don't boast and don't lie against the truth where you are that's the only way you can really be helped he says it's the money where in the end still seeking exist confusion and every evil thing are there how so strife so give us something that we cannot allow it to be amongst us there is no room for it really what you need to do is get to the place where you're comfortable in who you are in god if you really spent the time coming into what god has for your life you would have to worry about what's going on with somebody else because god has warmth have enough that he has for you the compilation fulfill that will keep you warm this busy saying is that when we have strife in our lives when we're contin shifts when we're always combative income always bumping hits with somebody always having these conflicts what is a reflection of is that there is something wrong in the so there's something wrong in the soul deep rooted hatred when the body of christ is filled with strife there is a void of unity there's a void of  name of our lord jesus christ that you all speak the same thing that you're speaking the same thing there's no contention fright there's no room for that there's no place for that the wrath of god is revealed from heaven against all godliness and all unrighteousness of the anger of god is revealed against all that righteousness and all and or we end up by killing off the truth or you hear for example that when we become on the righteous when we practice on righteousness we are really putting now the word of god the truth  along among themselves and even if they did not like to retain god in their knowledge they didn't even want to be thinking about god as they go through the day you know they caught up and caught up in god gave them over to a debased or a reprobate mind to do those things which are not so so because of the fact that they were busy  about righteousness god gave them up to a reprobate mind a reprobate mind this when you can do what you do and not feel any guilt about what you do you don't feel there's anything wrong with what you do you can be a pedophile and feel there's nothing wrong with you know how many years ago i was watching the jerry springer show and they had this guy on there and that was married to a  was and that's how that's how we are when we become reprobate we don't see the evil in what we do we don't feel a need to repent or to change because of the fact that we feel that where we are is ok we've lost our sensitivity and the spirit everybody else has a problem and i don't first twenty nine what is this on what is this god gave them over parents under certainty untrustworthy i love being known for giving out merciful who knowing the righteous judgment of god that those who practice such things are that not only do the same but also approve of those who practice it and so on other words not only those who are doing it but those who approve of those who are doing those who don't have anything negative to say about those who are doing those things i'm just hearing who condone the practice is just serving notice it is impossible for anyone to truthfully believe that god well let's let's move on to the second floor walking in promises of god versus walking the vision in this section there's a difference between the promises of god and the vision of god the promise got it really speaks of what god will do for us god makes promises to us that he will do certain things for us and so when we talk about the promises of god we're talking about what not it's going to do for us but when we talk about the vision of god we're talking about what we are to do along with god what his plan is that we're seeking to fulfill are you with me so so in my book the minister's manual on page two thirty eight i basically talk about this section that i'm reading from right now i begin to show the difference between walking in the promise of god and the vision of god it is impossible for us to come into the deeper things of god if we fail to come into the vision of god you can come into the place that god has for us and come into the deep places if we're not walking in alignment with his vision be completed here on earth we have to question whether it is really a vision from god or merely our own sincere desire for them for the lord to act in our ministry or ch many visions can be nothing more then a wish list in which ministries hope to gain god's protists a patient in the people's acceptance by calling it a vision of the lord god is going to give us a large well appointed new church building that's one thing we can call vision the lord is going to use us use this church to live in the city for christ promises that they do with vision from the lord promises from god or by themselves not vision so so you understand that a promise is not a vision so true  visions that come from reinvention speak of god changing our natural circumstances and are almost devoid of direction and heavenly purpose or understanding in reaching higher  vision from the lord will be part of another vision if i don't know my father's vision i will never be able to fully receive god's vision for my  him seeing as how we understand ministry succession ministry succession is about moving one generation to the next level and you can't move to the next level if you're not standing on the foundation of that which is come before so if don't know the vision of father you can't enter into the fullness of the vision that god has for our individual ministries if i can't write down and explain vision of my ministry father how will i have ever passed the elements of that vision to go on to myself if i don't understand my father's vision how will i fully grasp the vision of the lord who gave me the vision the more it would give me i won't is it possible unless vision rolls and progresses through the generations the purpose of god in our lives will remain disconnect there as we mature the lord six feet vision into our ministries my vision although not identical must be related to and come forth from my father's vision if this doesn't does not happen there will be to opposing  church causing division to literally and to vision or separation of issues this is why people who do not agree with or promote the vision of the house w always cause division and lack of unity true vision for ministry will always provide direction an opportunity for all under that mission to receive distinct personal vision that can be integrated into the larger vision godly vision not gifting doctrine is the foundation upon which the unity of the body is bound together by love so so so that's really what god's desire is for for the church is that we be bound together in unity and bound together in love and then comes my ass working on competition  conclude by saying that in so doing the complete vision of god is accomplished and the entire body is connected through the common commonality of vision in the unity of the faith the problem of course is that the church by and large is neither operating under father son order nor seeking this type of  we fail to come to understand that what it does is it sets us up for division to school well certainly deeper things of god bringing signs and wonders in first to desire to take him into the deeper things of god but because they were filled with empty strife and division they disqualify themselves from going into the deeper things of god we have to remember that him if we don't get the basics of of read the bible and praying and fasting if we don't understand that he's not going to move us into the deeper l u areas of ministry or revelation from him because true revelation is is not void of the word of god but it comes in alignment with the word of god and so you really won't know what's of god and what's not of god if you haven't come to understand the basic some of the work of god as long as we stay along the shoreline this long as we stay along the shoreline we will never be able to understand the air or experience the true majesty of our divine nature they got is given to us as long as