today is is really one of a several part series that we're really going to be doing around women women in leadership today these two sessions are going to focus on women over fifty five health issues mind body spirit why is that so important and what does it look like and any women out there who are over fifty you will be so plugged into the she'll know exactly what we're talking about so let's get started we're also go segue in in our seven second session into women in business and kind of how do we show up there what does that look like so when we're talking about mind body spirit you know and i think especially as we were talking the other day and kind of queuing up this particular show is really what what it has the show up for us like how you know when you hit fifty and over fifty as a woman it seems like priorities change our way of thinking change is and from a health perspective so many more challenges whether it's weight you know whether it's how we feel physically and certainly her mental state plays a huge huge piece of this so so debbie i'm just going to i'm going to ask you and especially based on some of your background with the intuitive life coaching where does the mind  spirit piece like where does that show up well i think with the mind of course we all live in our minds a little bit too much so what i really try to work with people is getting them to a place of where they become more aware of their own presence right  just kind of like taking a temperature on where they are taking a good look at that and that's kind of like a whole life balance thing if you think about it because i usually work with the wheel of life which is kind of a balanced approach to living so it starts out with you know your mind your body your spirit where you spend your time your relationships your career your family and we take a look at how that balances out and for a lot of people when they do that it kind  of hits them and makes them look at something and say i can't believe that i'm spending my time on things that yeah are kind of meaningless to me where's the gap right now where i have we were we were actually talking about this yesterday don i've been going up for this  d talk to me about some of your practices in relation to exercise because we were talking about the challenges of weight and exercise and from that perspective you know share share yes sure so what's interesting is i look to exercise as a way of kind of regrouping when i have things that are challenging or things i want to think about and you know i think always thinking about you know change management or you know what's going on from a work perspective right if i find that i'm at a crossroad or if i find that i don't know what the next step is and something i honestly will exercise i'll go for a run and funny yesterday i was going to say you know i went out this past weekend and you know i just wanted to get out and just just go because i need to clear my head i need to think about what's the right approach on this and a lot of times that approach to me is yes of course take steps a b and c but more importantly how do i as donna approach steps a b and c right because we are always concerned about how the other party or other person perceives how we're going to take those next couple of steps so exercise to me is my outlet it's the way that it really energizes me and gets and just clears things out and when i come back from my run i'm so focused on just energized again and it's crazy because i'll get on a conference call and i know this is crazy i'll be out of breath i'm like oh my gosh i know exactly what needs to take place and this is how i think should be i should go on and then having so yeah i mean i have that reformer in my office  i have to admit i don't i don't use it to the extent that i imagined when i first bought it but i bought that because there's validity right there is there's a whole biological biophysical factor that  relation to that in terms of how our body takes in oxygen and how we get new ideas and i want i want you to talk about your three p s tony robbins usually talks about your state your story and your strategy and your state is this state if i'm if i'm feeling lack of energy and i'm feeling sluggish and slow what do i do to change that state well i take a deep breath i clear my mind i take in oxygen sometimes i go for a walk a step on the reform or you know there are so many different ways to kind of break out of where you might feel like you don't you're not getting that good idea you're not you know you can't really think about something with clarity and you break through that piece and story is that the story and strategy are two other pieces of it but the the physical piece of it is really your state you're also changing the energy right because that's fairly well you know what that's about yeah i mean if the three of us walked in here today and didn't know each other we would be getting  feelings about each other the thing is is that it's all about awareness right so i think what you're referring to is that i'm aware of that when i'm not getting what i need i know what to do in order to clear that and to get into a place where you know i can definitely sit down and say ok now my creator energies coming through clear i'm ready to move forward so the way i kind of work with it in my practice and in my own individual practice is for me i start with meditation in the morning and the last five years i really have not been able to live my life without it and it doesn't matter it doesn't have to be anybody's practice but your own it can be anything from just be sitting there in silence just connecting with your source it could be repeating montra in any event it's really about getting in connection with your source which is really at that highest level of consciousness and you know the eastern culture is really the best at this they have talked about it for centuries and it's very simple and that's how we get on this whole mind body spirit because our mind is the connection part but so often we get caught in that part as you said not knowing what to do being overloaded how do we just really repairs ourselves when we power our cell phones is what i tell people unplug sit down in silence even if it's for ten minutes just get that connection going once you get that going then you're in a better place to be more creative you're in a better place to be more aligned and those are the places where i get my answers put the intention out there what is it that i need to know what is it that i need to know about this day this meeting how i start whatever it is it will come through but we have to be able to sit and listen so when she was talking about the three pays the three piece from a is first is purpose what is my purpose why am i here why am i sitting with  three of you right now there's obviously a bigger purpose around that practice it could be in a form of exercise it could be meditation it could be chanting it could be yoga it could be anything ok so that's my practice  right and i don't know what that is and i allow my clients to define that for themselves that it could be different for every person and it will change and it will evolve because we are evolving the universe is evolving we're valving so that's part of it and the other part really is power what do we get out of it we get power so you know we are creating an energetic power right now that obviously people are getting a certain message from us right now and i think you know our intention today was to come together for women in their fift i mean unfortunately for me i'm in my fifty's and i'm even a grandma but you know what these are like the best years of my life so why are they the best years of my life though because i'm incorporating practices that in my thirty's and forty's i was too busy to think about that right and sometimes it means a health tragedy sometimes it means a family tragedy or something significant in our life yeah whether it's finance or work related but just stops us in our tracks and so it's ok what i doing here yeah so that's why the three piece for me are like the basis and we can build out on that and anyway and that kind of provides the balance you know and that's what i think life is about life is about balance but unfortunately we're running on the hamster wheel we don't really get a chance to understand or feel that balance we feel stressed out we keep running to something when really we have it inside and if we just sat with it we would get the answers so yeah they're able and i think what donna said before is a real key piece to this in that you were in tune enough right you were present and we talk about this in relation to mindfulness being present enough and being in two minutes with your own body to kind of know what you're what you're know this way whether it's lack of energy whether it's lack of larry di weather is its restlessness right whatever that is and i know i'm going to think about how to change that right and what i need to change it and it's difficult to get to that point even to be trailing tune with what you need and what those trigger points are right now to trust it and to trust it i feel like once you feel it it's like ok now what do you how do you trust it and how do you act on it right that's the well part right we all have free will so what we decide to do with that free will is do we want to keep doing the same old thing and getting the same all results right or do we really want to trust that guidance and then walk that path well and it's scary and i think that's one of the things when your in your thirty's and forty's you're a little afraid to try things because to me oh i was there yes because you have limited time whether it be you know family or raising children and so that limited time you want to make sure that that time is well spent and you don't have the time to to try something it doesn't work you don't feel right you know what forget it i'm to go back to what i know yes where as you know as you get older as we get to a point we're where we do become more we're a lot more mature you know you do get back to that trust and i'm i'm always willing to try trial and error i'm always up for that right because that you never know even though what i know works for me right now you just never know if that is going to to require some type of changing even a year from now or couple of months from now right so i'm always open for change and it's funny because i think about the conversations we had when we all first met right one of the things i know i said because and i still still strong everyone else does i think i overcompensate for that by jumping headfirst into it like that's how i deal with it but you know something else where you you know you were talking before about being in your mid fifty's in and  then our ability to kind of assess and figure out you know hey i don't like this and you know what you get to a place i think and i personally was way over fifty is that it's a little bit of a value question i get asked starting to feel maybe more valuable and understanding a little bit more of my my role in life with the people here but then searching right i feel like over fifty we're searching we're we're searching more now for deeper what is my purpose here and isis filling it is this you know my god given destiny yes and i living that out i feel like you search you're asking a lot more questions but they're deeper and you're willing to kind of call time out to think about them and address them and you know that's i think the mind spirit part that you are i think more open i think the practice is key i have kind of fluctuated with my practice i mean my call moving forward my intention is to get really solid with it because it does make a difference makes a huge difference in those times of intense stress yes where if you can literally feel where that's hitting you in your body and you can almost call time out to that stress and say ok home i'm going to deal with this you're not living it you're addressing it and you're putting it away and you're discarding it you're moving on but i mean i think we all know that's not easy you know and especially high anxiety whether it's with our kids whether it's with something you know it work that we can't control you know all those things hit you and then ok how do you respond and how do you be the best you in that situation that's always my question well and the thing is our body is really giving us the right message because your mind is playing tricks on us yet our mind is going back into the old belief systems and saying oh when i did this this happened and all i remember this whether it's from this life or a past life or whatever at the end of the day or mind can be our own worst enemy so unless we go there every day very and we allow something new to come in new direction new vision worse and of stuck with those old ways even if it was from the day before maybe we had a negative day that was really hard on us how do we start a new you know somebody and i shared this with tara someone once said to me you're such a spiritual person i can't believe you don't have a meditation practice and i said well i pray and i sit with myself and and they were like no but it's not the same so let me ask you you know you take a shower every day you wash your hair you feel really clean right yes and they said to me have you cleaned your soul and i was that's what really hit me so i think if people think of it that way because i didn't even think about my soul since grammar school going to catholic school we spoke about the soul every day i never really knew what it was i don't know if any of you did but i knew that it was the place that it was where we went  when we all you know if your soul darkened by sins so i would imagine a white shoe sole with black spots on it really and that's how are very nice to what i realize it really is that but it's our inner self right and what the black spots or our are the past issues of our lives or the past belief systems that don't serve us anymore so how to get that clean and white and pure and if we think of it in terms of white light which is really how i do think of it clear it by removing those blocks removing those behaviors removing those memories of even the night before and star clean so that's what the meditation practice i think it does for me i think it does it for a lot of people i work with but my advice is just keep it simple you know don't try to emulate anyone just for yourself and again feel it in your body your body is our or temperature control it tells us you know so we've done we've done a couple shows on energy to  kind of ignore that is missing a piece of the picture here that is you know even with that you know you have people there that won't want to pay attention to that but the reality is we do carry we do carry energy with us and and sometimes there is energy in existence you know darn well when you walk into a room and people are having a tough conversation and they are yes you push their maoism and you walk in you're like oh what is happening here you feel the energy you're seeing obviously some of the visible signs of it but you can feel it so many times and and think about it if you have a bad day or you have a bad experience how do you clear that out  taking it with you into the next day re examination in or yeah so so to have some practices of thinking about how you really just kind of physically clear yourself well it's the same energy that brings like minds together do to god to be guided by that really you know and then your intuitive sense comes and so you know that's the part that i think for me i never paid attention to it but now it's like the only thing that i can guard my life with so yeah that i'm grateful for and i'm grateful for the opportunity to introduce other people to that because everyone needs something right now you know we went searching yeah that and the answer is inside we really need to stop enriching outside right it is here yeah so yeah it is that's one thing i want to say it's such a great point right because so many times weight right we're reading books we're listening to experts you know and we really don't start here and then we're the expert of ourselves you know well and it's interesting that you mentioned you know reading books and trying to to understand what experts are saying a lot of that to me is intuitive yet we're always out there reading it but to what we're talking about is it's you bring it back home and take what you've read and reflect on it and turn it around a little bit on yourself to say i will have now put myself into that situation right now and you know i think at least in the room right here we  do do that and then you know a lot of people as they get older that they do do that but you know it working you know day to day out there are people that you come in contact with that don't do that right over the first ones out there reading about the experts and you know boating them yes and quoting them and yet you know you sit there and sometimes you might even want to ask them well how would you internalize that how to reflect upon yourself and i don't think a lot of people know the time to do that right we're not trained that way though we're not we're not we're trained to keep going out looking for more and you know sitting still and being by yourself you know that's somebody who is strange that does that yeah you know  were also talking about yesterday and we were talking about the smore ning is kind of as women in our priorities and that other people that we serve in life and so where does like in my church you know we talk about you were sent here you weren't sent here for yourself you were sent here for others wait you know it's we talk about putting the oxygen mask on yourself first before you help others so it's finding that balance to right of where is it ok to do this and put myself for us to care for myself so i have stronger energy and more resources to help others sometimes those lines are not clear it's easy to say but in practice know i feel a dad's a big challenge for me is figuring out those lines and you know the responsibilities and saying i got to check the box on these responsibilities oh yeah by the way i want to do a brand you know i want to r getting i think vigilant about carving out and the time for that or you know i think if you do the practice it helps with the alignment if you're clear when you ask yourself that question then you will never be actually yes then it actually unfolds itself so if you're already in that realm of you know you're in your own sacred energy so you're not going to go wrong so once you start to ask yourself the questions as you said shows up in your gut shows up in your body listen the problem for us is we don't listen we don't listen you know and that means we don't trust right and then the other thing is we don't walk into the power step into the power so you know that's the other piece of it so we have to have our the shows of in business yes next show we have i think it's really really yeah yes especially for women yeah something else i want to just kind of cover before we close the show is the physical piece right because there are many women myself included struggling with whether it's weight over fifty you know how i make sure you know i've tried every low curve no car you know low fat i mean you name it right cut out the gluten cut out the dairy i mean so many variations of that and over fifty or like so it's just not the same story and cindy joseph not not to be quoting other experts but  i love her she's turned to that she actually was a makeup artist for many many years and now she's she's a model slash author and she has a cosmetic line and it is all about honoring who we are it is all about honoring after fifty hair i mean she's just love well i had actually in her and i've seen her she's scared yeah but she's like listen stop the anti age this anti age that like we have to honor where we are and now we have to think about ok how can i be my best me whether it's at this weight you know but best healthy is me and i agree as we're saying that that that's different for everybody i think it started loving yourself really yeah you have to be happy with who you are and i think that comes from the inside not from the outside and if you're happy and so i you'll be happy on the outside but for the women watching how do you get there right because i know you hear that and you say well that's great but i don't know what that means oh i can only apply it to myself i mean i've done everything i watch so you know i've done everything myself i think to make myself look better but oftentimes it never made me feel better about myself so i have to approach it again i keep going back to my practice because that's what i think has helped me is i have i have a lot of love for myself and every time i pick something or you know even today this jacket i picked because i said oh i love blue when i wear blue i'm so happy and enjoy fall and i want to extend that message to people out there so i think we need to be intentional yeah and that intention comes from our energy inside loving and putting love out to those you know you to everyone out there so i think that's part of it too so if we have a lot easier for us to give a lot everywhere yeah i was on what do you think yeah i would think everyone knows what makes them feel good so you wake up in the morning and you want to wear your favorite shirt well you have a favorite shirt something about that shirt whether it be the style of the color makes you feel good right and i think it's narrowing in on those items whether it be a an article of clothing or some food or whatever and i think that makes you feel good whether it makes you feel healthy eat that food sometimes and you know every time that happens i swear that next day i have a day i pay the price and i will ciro it in on that food saying you know i knew this was going to happen i predicted it and what did i do food anyhow and y am the next day feeling sluggish or this or that of the other thing so i think you really need to identify those items that make you feel good yeah and then try to also figure out what items don't make you feel as good i think that's kind of a baby step approach to getting to the point that you know you were talking about how can you once you feel that the goodness in your soul and just what makes you happy and brings you to the table every single day you know ready to tackle the future then baby step that you c take a little bit further yeah yeah don't think that's a great point and then we can extend it out to being surrounded by people that make us feel good right yeah and i have done that and i have to tell you i have a feeling that that's one of the other reasons you know i stop i have a lot of people around me i love people but not everybody thinks they feel as good as others and maybe i don't need as many people anymore that's all good to well do you ever reflect on a relationship so for example i would have dinner with someone and you know at the time it may be time to move forward like you know right now that's that's fine yeah you know and i think that the cognisance well i think what we're going to do is talk about in our next show kind of mindfulness presence intention