called the dowdy down down method and he'll be working on that in the years to come to solidify that joe thank you very much for coming back and i want to keep talking first of all i'd like to just pick up where we started that we talked a lot about the concert of the year that's coming up on may thirtieth at the princeton high school performing arts center and it's going to start seven o'clock and to be not only tickets at the door protected sold in advance but i was warning if you could refresh of they don't sound like a middle school most people acknowledge that they sound like a high schooler or you know something much better than than the other i've had i've been in several festivals where i would get over the tapes from people that were judging like is this real or not you know because of the the capacity of and the the level technical level of which our kids to reach with that in mind i thought this is how i can thank princeton the district and and just give something back to the community and all the teachers that are involved takes a village to raise a child yeah i can when you're perfect berkeley first place i'll get you i mean if you give me the right team i'll get you the homerun or get you the touchdown very good that a lot of us in  high school are hell ever there's a lot more to it than that what about the the the former instructor who may even struck that these kids even with private lessons at the westminster choir college or some of the local area teachers great on jazz great on classical all of our students that we always recommend they also take a supplemental private lesson they never get any accolades and yet they are a part of everything what we do when they're part of the greatness of princeton and what and  the you know the heights that some of these kids reach at princeton scholastically in in our discipline which would be music so i thought what better way to go this has nothing to do with me this has to do with princeton and all the people that are part of this it takes a village to raise a child all of these mentors from dr b who was my brother all the way till now will be on stage sitting next to their students and these will be seventh and eighth graders these seven and they graders will have to play like pros before they get on a stage because we can't do that concert without anyone i don't use ringers so it's not going to happen and already we're proving that i've had people come in and listen to them and even for some of the private teachers called me  joe i can't believe these kids like i have six trumpet players of yours and like you know their heads you know the range is insanely high and this and that and they're laughing about it because the kids are killing it you know so yeah it is it's a great thing and the kids have taken an interest so one bringing all the mentors and i got to be honest thank you all mentors out there because i do not have a know invariably every one of these teachers whether they're from westminster whether they're private in the community and they play professionally you know for the met or or philly pops which i have or great jazz players at the already i'm in everything in new york not one of them and also public school teachers who live in a community that probably not once that they said this is the greatest thing that anyone's ever thought of for for you know in public school to bring all of this together and we can all share communally the greatness of princeton and what we chose to do literature is the most demanding literature you can find no transcriptions for all the music people out there in the audience or in the community it's the real deal for doing host we're doing host of we're doing petunia we're doing the teeny knots less and i don't one name  you know not flash smith or another name who rearranged it and wrote down so kids in middle school can play this because this is what happens we don't do that we bring our four kids to the real deal so we are playing the most of riginal that you can two of them are this from the chicago symphony that are being mailed to me this week to back up one of the singers and if i tell you what's on the lineup you won't believe it you just won't believe what is going to happen at that concert and i'm veg everyone is listening to this interview if you saw anything or you've ever come to see a concert this is one of a kind no school district in the united states has that protected anything like this you're talking for symphonic for sympathy and full opera no one with professional opera singers so this is beyond beyond and if any and it's actually so far beyond i'm going to have the police department ready and they car that will be running the complete concert outside that car will be on just in case i don't live up to my standards but i have a quick getaway now why did for the this is it sometimes i think can we really pull this off but when i listen to the kids every day i'm thinking and i talk to my my my counterpart mr reeve and he goes joe for doing it you know relaxed or doing it and i'm all you know is fidgety about is this you know did i really should those the bar is so high it's college level professional there is just nothing higher and mean if you would go and see a professional if you would see one of these arias that we're doing in gianni speech he or you know the puccini or whatever or the for a requiem you know we're doing p a's two out of that we're doing the real deal not some transcription you'll hear the real thing at the met if they do one of these operas you know and the forty naturally is a requiem but anyway i can i don't know where you want to expand with this but i'm saying all of these professionals will be sitting next to her students on stage in four cents and playing this to high school orchestra kids are getting involved so i'll use the high school strings or use some supplemental strings if you are our new teacher calling fairy i'm very happy to say that she's very much a part of this and she's going to help with the string you know and we did one thing a long time ago with the the not all states but the real south jersey honors orchestra and she sang on me about me no car so everything's connected to either tony or i there's a connection with every piece here and there's a connection with each one of the mentors to my brother or i and like sarah and i love sarah she's phenomenal vincit the high school like really huge and phenomenal and paul played in that seventy piece that we did in fact sarah sarah his young daughter saying it for me i was very special so all of these people are coming together to say yes we want to do this for these kids are in for princeton so i'll tell you princeton if you're out there you're going to have a lineup of musicians that you normally see possibly at the met maybe a jazz club in literally and experiencing life in general you know what's the connection there's a big connection here i was just listening to a study at cornell university cornell if you play music you may want to become a doctor because they're looking at the match this makes in medicine even and the ability to you to be able to to to be able to relate to patients and everything else music in compas as so many things like i said before in our last  aesthetics and i'm big on that static awareness a static appreciation if you see a monet you have to learn to appreciate it or you don't know what you're looking at if you saw picasso you could think that somebody just you know spill a gallon of paint on us or something but it's not knew prescience good art and you can you can appreciate the artist and the genre and what they created and our kids are taught that here at princeton through all of our arts you know whether be practical art or music or or dance or whatever  lm and that's what we that's what we also concert onto as well what are students be able to appreciate aid art as no one's going to be i always tell my kids i want you to really be to this but god forbid don't use this as a profession cures we're going to take the money you think you're going to make you know if that's you know although the aesthetics and or some something about appreciation about what we do to that that leads us to this vocation they become good at it what we're also training is our appreciators in consumers the producers of the people who play the consumers are the people who go to the met who go to see a jazz concert who go to see a symphonic concert or you know even if it's a rock concert you're appreciating music and if you go to any one of those concerts you can sit down as well as one of our students as that's ever left his building or the high school and they can sit down and analyze what's going on on stage because they were taught to do that and that's that's the great thing so you know the art appreciation is of as a major factor in this as well the growing up it was the you know composers that i always appreciated stan kenton don ellis they were biggies for me growing up i mean my brother was a disciple of stan kenton and we still use his literature good literature never dies mozart only exists because it's great literature well with louis armstrong say there's good music a bit music right always right always the ones you don't remember are the ones that have no value that they may have about you i shouldn't say that maybe they're just targeted to a very special small audience of that my parents were more big band i went to the more jazz he was a favorite of mine basecamp ac i mean there's there's a legend ellington there legends and these guys were just on top of her game and creative and they were artists they were to stick you know they created the our form of charlie parker on sax i mean there's people still studying what he does and they have books on charlie parker so with us i mean the charlie learned form you know these were inventors they were creators of the art so i mean that was more than as a side i have a special appreciation for aaron pople an american composer and i also have especially because leonard bernstein was also a student of his if you listen to bernstein and you listen to aaron copeland sometimes it's hard to tell if you're yeah i forgot the name of the piece but was that bird seat or was this  was great on this wide spatial harmonies and the strings and all and of i mean he created a lot of the vices that i consider very modern you know fifty's post fifty's all the way through and and there was one  particular work that you know he said he named because he just this wife wrote a book and he was talking about everybody said what a great insight you had to make this work  you know what you name that i thought was absolute appalachian spring you know like one of great you know idea and concepts and he was laughing about an interview i guess i never thought i had he said my wife was reading a book and i named to go you know but it was really comical operates in broadway right i look at it it's an opera you know and his dance was phenomenal that was modern jazz if you're a dancer just like wow this is new you know we're not just talking about ballet or tap anymore this guy's putting it on the forefront so had that opened my eyes is west side story to a lot of things that i wanted to pursue whether it be a dancer or musician or anything so we get bernstein is a disciple of aaron copeland and that's why i look at that there's a  model grown up certainly we were above if you would say somebody was a role model for individuals who would that would that role model but i don't know honestly no no i look at all my bad heaters and on they were all equally special dr b actually taught me a few things to your brother and he passed on a lot that's when they would host if you wanted a connection to host this doctor me it's a connection here you give credit to you know who's whose part you're both teaching and the administrative staff what are your plans for the future i want to write my book and i want to spend time with my kids i lost a son a few years ago devastated to this very day it's  total devastation and he parent that has to go through this you have my prayers you just never get through it but ironically when i see these kids every day it helps me get through  dance or through music and they were all special to me in many many ways and i guess it was just like so like a chinese smorgasbord take a little bit of menu a menu be and then you see it i just took a little bit of everybody and i guess that's maybe  about and they hold me to be what i am today ok let's talk with michael ok that's tough talk about well what we'll do michael was a loving son anybody would be proud to have michael as a son i have three sons i love them they're all equally loved by dad that's my first son jamie they're all different all rational our parents and all kids are there bring all raised differently because you know that it is that's the way it is that there's no special mold my patrick my youngest all have done great things jamie is have made top lawyer in savannah patrick graduated at twenty one years old rowan and was offered two great jobs in engineering michael had a teaching degree and one to become this specially for people who understand what we're doing again no transcriptions the real deal at one the second suite holst the host has he me ole in it he meal is a form of music where you have two different times going on our kids six and seven we have three we have two which is subdivided by six three two different times going on at the same time and they have to play this against each other and keep it in time w gorgeous ending of greensleeves which just blossoms out of this it's a gorgeous peat stuck to be love this of one of his favorites it's got four areas to it very very challenging this is the while philharmonic what they would do ok we have the same piece all right and that's the host the second one is vaughan williams another notable let's see songs and if you sit back and you chair or in the audience seat there transcription we're doing it i have a friend kelly young who you've met i think personally kelly teaches opera vocal she's a vocal coach at the baltimore school of arts she's phenomenal she's going to sing p a's you from the forty requiem i recommend to everybody and so audience that i listen to the foray requiem it's gorgeous and the for a show and kelly's my friend that's our connection and she's come to our school i've gone to see some of things know essence whether beatrice kosky or whatever i mean these guys wrote in a certain way that's just like it will get if that you get your attention these guys will get your attention with music it's very articulate it's very high on the winds your troubles are like reaching a and it's also out of one of his operas act two we will have an intermission that active actually becomes more personal this is to me and my family and personal to me as i said aaron copeland was one of my favorites are the great endearment to my heart of love everything he's done also his student bernstein actually i followed through the years my teacher played for bernstein fanfare for a common man one of his greatest it's most notable you'll know it when you hear it i guarantee it and this is a phantom a huge fanfare it will wake up the audience and all say well we're back you know this activity just got my attention i guarantee it now and that's there is a connection start with pereira now this is personal and dedicate this to my grandchildren lovely i have three now one that we just had charlotte so i have little nicky mikey and charlotte and this will be dedicated to them plus all the children that will be  gorgeously this will be i say i'm a company that's a lie dr dorfman my first former supervisor she's the allstate choir director she's phenomenal she's playing piano so she'll do the piano behind kiran singing this appearance from scotland and it was also a former boy for my youngest son patrick he was my little arbor step the answer was actually for that actually when he was a kid doesn't dance anymore still you know i'm sure he still loves the art and he said and it's helped him appreciate dance and music through the years  danny boice from my patrick and we will use an arrangement as there's no formal arrangement danny boy is folk and the bottom line is that unaccompanied and then we'll do a full symphonic version swear engine which i do like will be done by christian sabbath do you want to work christian is right now bring out my phone ok if i call christian right now i guarantee you he's only he's in the dressing room for phantom of the operator in new york right now he is the lead braised on it we've been bred on it they've seen more light opera but they have seen opera and you know i took them to see and i know the opera people out there will cringe when i say this because they don't always look at it like the telly or were pabrai as operate you know it's more commercial but i mean  they have experience listening to formal opera but i have brought them to concerts you know with nessun dorma and stuff like that and if they've heard the real deal the last one's from my michael who passed away and that's bringing him home out of and i got the real deal saying in it he was only moves so we have the real deal on stage with our kids so be singing music i mean i'll be singing bring him home from lame is and that'll bring it bring your handkerchiefs everybody cause  this whole concert well in the end i will tell you what it's about more than just bringing everyone the village the stage we're going to end it with amazing grace and that will be full symphony with amazing grace one you've lost your place forever because it's all interwoven no one can tell where anything is at it's a good use masterful piece of music which will good will rip your heart out emotionally so that's how i'm going to end my concert will be gorgeous so this concert a little bit about spirituality and has lots of endearment and meaning for a lot of people all the parents out there it's more than just the concert you know dishes of this week in education have a good night