hello and welcome to another episode in the life two point zero show today we are discussing something that is very dear and near to all of us oh yeah you know part of the life two point zero mission is really just to help our viewers professional women primarily create that second act in life be it what you wanted to do and never had a chance to do just basically living a more purposeful  and filling life so what we tried to do was we always talk about a key areas of life finance health family friends environment and personal growth so today we're really concentrating a little bit more on how right in terms of nutrition i lot of us you know throughout different times in life you know we may have some health issues and you know we're not eating the right thing we need to change what we're eating so our gues today tina is actually we're front row from a previous go yeah that was really great because i would like to point out community you know a lot of our guests say oh you should interview so and so so we kind of like have fun you know many yacht like smith sorry i told her for nasa get it yes ok thank you thank you so much for being our guest today and we wanted to learn a little bit more about your journey and how you got to this point and what were some of determining factors that got you to where you are at day well i grew up chubby i grew up in an italian family a very cuisine center and  we had some great food though just probably too much of it so i spent my teen years kind of you know starving myself down to my skinny jeans to get like it and then ending it all back and going back and forth up and down and it's a lot of years to really try to settle out to to you know what i thought my weight should being i wasn't meant to be skinny runway rail but you know yeah so but in the meantime i developed a real passion for nutrition so but i became a paralegal i thought about going to law school so but i was working with this woman and it was really a pivotal point she was into complementary medicine had a caring business so i was helping her cooking and so i learned all about sharing cooking macrobiotic ok and during that period in my twenty's i got into a car accident and i wasn't able to return to being a paralegal i felt much better on my feet so i started working with her and we started natural foods delhi and morristown oh well in the ninety's which now probably doesn't seem like a big deal but then there was no whole foods right i always was thought a west coast so i was really an exciting time i was formally trained  whole lifestyle that comes from japan ok so it was brought here by a man named me show khushi who has a school in massachusetts it's based upon the principles of the inn and yang so a lot of it is about the diet some foods are considered more  might sound it's a plant based with an asian flair of course because it comes from japan and it's used it's therapeutic diet that's used to reverse chronic illness so as you can imagine the people that are i was cooking for i said i have to go to school and g bachelor's degree twelve hundred hour internship and then a national exam and then maintain your credentials so that brought me to that pathway and then since that i had many many roles both clinical corporate and then transitioned into private practice so for the past eighteen years i usually tell people i've done it do it now or about to do it yeah yeah yeah wow now i'm doing individual counseling i'm also doing consulting for atlanta health i run dr dean ornish is program to reverse heart disease which is a transformative ok program and i teach at montclair university it's a colon area in clinical class where the students get to cook because really  hands down hands on is the best way to write so and then i'm also working on a program now to help to educate doctors in nutrition because doctors get very little training in nutrition i get all medical school right and they really need it because abrasions counts all right because you know i remember from years years i was in the pharmaceutical industry and i remember you know talking to physicians about smoking respect and the physician is think from because i love pasta i love pasta anything at tallinn how do you manage now because your background italian cooking eating how do you dining out right now so how about that favorite restaurants are telling in family style restaurants and you know you just like when you want to think about it you're not aware just so because it is also and i think you know friends that i that i have that are italian it's also you know just time to eat and enjoy each other's company so it's like the whole it's more than just eating i guess of course so anyway well everything i guess i am you know regardless if you have ever it's more it's a s thing so a lot of times you don't want to think about the news for sure and out of it but one of life's great pleasures absolute right yeah so it's just a matter of getting some balance so and i notice a lot of restaurants now  calorie counts yes so that they just ruth's chris added there is and they're one of the steaks is a new york strip is fifteen hundred calories just for the sake so yeah and so that's one strategy to ok sharing so all right so then share it because i as you said a lot of it but a lot of them you know when you look at the the calories is like it's just ok i can eat that it's a big turnoff just because you know they've indicated the calories but it's more than just but the body reacts very very differently yes so trying to eat more on that other end of the spectrum so tell us a little bit more about that client's centered approach right so for example so if you go to the doctor and  lose weight eat oatmeal for breakfast and grilled chicken for lunch it's not going to really help right the client so what i do is i spend a lot of time may even before i even see the client they've bought a comprehensive questionnaire and then when i see them for the first appointment they do most of the talking and i get all this information about their lifestyle about what's worked for them in the past what their goals might be even what kind of support they have at home a woman get their sleep habits how do you sleep hygiene medicine supplements so it's gathering all that information and then making a collaborative approach ok so you're working with the client and they have a lot of input it's not just handing someone a meal plan right so that's really the nutritional are going to get there where we're going to stop along the way so it's like having a plan to get from a to b but when i like what she said it's because the fact that she it's a two way street because you have to get by it because you can sit here and tell me you're supposed to eat whatever whatever whatever but if i'm not buying into that and i don't really see the benefit right now or i'm like just giving you lip service yes if it's not going to work for me ok so now mike i have to ask you she said what are some of the reasons why people just don't buy it are not ready are not ready you know they they come they go that you know them saying they're kind of back and forth on in terms of their health and right well sometimes they're not ready but maybe their physician made a recommendation or a family member member read a recommendation so it may just be that they're not ready they may find it daunting there are people too who have lost way you never see me for weight loss or they lost weight and they gained it back in their freight about going through that process again or there may just be some fear that they're going to have to give up all their favorite foods and how are they going to manage that so it's really different for everybody sure so i do try to get people to move a little more towards the game and we do have a lot more so i mean prepared foods to choose from so there are fruits and vegetables that are already precut that's easy to write sample but for the  cooking classes i do it's very very individualized just like the counseling so decide when need help with with knife skills or a certain type of scene to they want to learn how to cook with tofu how to make soup so how to make it more with indian spices so i typically will do to our classes mainly hands on work with people in groups and they are in groups and then we share the meal so i do some in morristown and i also do some for the chamber center of information on your website or if people want to sign up for the classes they can just email me and i do them i create the class for the client at the chambers center's older set monthly but my private classes i create based on the client needs yeah so how many people in the group that will do up to eight so if we want to learn how to  hopefully they'd all be like minded with similar goals and then we would have shot a menu and it may be something like you would be interested in maybe a few things that you could make that you could roll over into different meals during the we have a lot so that for example  meals that you just order and they come to you and all the ingredients are right there ah i always tend to think there's probably something that's not so great meaning it's heavy with sodium or so forth but overall what is your thought process of meals that are like that yeah i think that they can be purposeful and i have clients that use them and i got pretty good feedback ok people like that it's you want to make sure that you like it so you have where you can kind of try before you buy i would say one of the downsides is it is a lot of packaging so in terms of having to recycle all these you know you aren't talking yeah ok yeah and i have had clients say that they feel pressured to say say they bought three meals yeah and they on day three they get home at eight o'clock at night and they don't feel like setting up and breaking down their kitchen right right so and then there was a study where a group went around and tested temperatures ok and many of them flunked so from a food safety standpoint when i was a little bit more foodborne illness from some of these companies they may have to revamp some of their delivery methods ok back to jane right right keeping the food safe right yeah wow wow so tell us i know we what we wanted to do a few tips and takeaways and if you could start with a couple of those that because oh yeah so planning ahead actually planning ahead planning and planning  yes i know so for example we had talked about maybe making a couple meals to have during the week right here there are a lot of great phone apps that you can use room to help with shopping there's one called big oven that i've recommended to clients that has over half a million recipes so if you're in the supermarket at six thirty at night if you find a recipe it tells you where the list already gradient sarce only it's a listing so that's why i use one called listees ok and i like that one because i also do a little bit of catering ok so i can make lists from different stores for different catering jobs you can export the list too so if your plus one is doing the shopping ok send it to them so that ok with six box yeah so it's a very good way to organize your shopping also to the kind of rollover murals i'm planning ahead can you talk a little of the planning ahead thing one of the things that i find is i'm in the car at meal time you know at lunchtime or something and then you have the tendency to go get something fast food right right right so what might be some tips that we can you know avoid yes we have to look at the antecedents so what happened before that and was there an opportunity to either pick something up that's healthier there are some bars that are very good there's a bar called our x bar i like it because they put the ingredients right across the front  to be a little difficult and cipher that so there's just very few ingredients very low in sugar so that's a good one having a little cooler bag with some snacks that you can keep in the car now at this time of year yeah be a careful with this the temperature is climbing now so yes so that that's planning ahead and having that ready to go ok and then how do you factor because is eating but it's also exercising correct so how do you yeah get that client who i really like strength training so i try to incorporate strength training and that wall then allow the client to do more work on their other daily activities that have to be planned ahead for too so an example would be vacation when people say to lose the all or nothing attitude because sometimes it will get you railed and it gets them off track and they have trouble getting on but really try to look at what you can learn from that so for example let's say you go to a friend's barbecue and you get there and you're that because i always read in here about the mediterranean diet or you know eating more types of mediterranean food so can you share a little shed a little light yeah definitely i guess so it's more a plant based on a good way to get extra vegetables and that's why i was thinking of that as something to bring because that that would be substantial and then set up things like chips or anything of those kinds of snack foods so on a mediterranean platter would be maybe like home is to bully different kinds of vegetable or salads things like that maybe some whole grain pita bread also be an opportunity to get vegetables in so that's that he that there are studies and they're starting in the early one nine hundred swear we discovered that people from certain and family as you said socializing so right big is part of that yes so it's the whole picture yeah which is and another tip is not ignore all the other cornerstones i've mentioned sleep before i mean i feel like if you're not sleeping all bets are off eat what are you thinking about who are eating it with so young are you like oh yes you are reading news headlines yeah what are you doing oh yeah you mindfully just enjoying your food right right right right so is there anything i don't know if this is  if this is is there any foods that this might not be a good question but i'll ask it anyway is there any foods that you would say you know for people that are in in corporate america especially right now and they are completely stressed out with you know how much the volume of stuff they have to do is there anything they should do in terms of the food part more food out of their own home is going to be helpful because all the the process from having to detoxify all of the chemicals and that's going to put more stress on the body and  flyman tory foods are going to be more of the plant food so greens blueberries mushrooms anything in the onion garlic family those are all very good and in the cruciferous so all of those all those help to facilitate they help your liver to detox they help your kidneys to detox and your g i tract we also expressed toxins there are skin so it's going to help move all that along and decrease information in the body decrease stress on comedy ok while we're ready hear that also getting support to support is very important that's why i offer support ok in between appointments so but starting in your own home so that means if someone's leaving you know box  krispy kreme so on the counter and that's a trigger for you then ask them to put it away right now have to ask them more than once or you know i have to do it you suck at it because it's yes so but it is your thing that may forget trying your own home or i think weight watchers is a solid program that's been around for a long time i did that and i have to yeah i did thirty last thirty pounds on wow why i liked it was because i knew for me to be shrink to say you're going to eat just this this that was  to learn how to eat normal or malee it was a big thing for me was portion control and make like healthy alternatives you know and you know i'm saying but that i like because i didn't feel like i was going to prize or right deprived and i was going to eat a certain way for now and knowing what i lost the weight i was going to go back right to normal to normal so i kind of tried to eat normal but smarter exactly to lose away yeah yeah that's the thing about some diets there are tens of thousands of riots out there and they all work for as long as you can stick to them and people often think they'll just die of from here to here and then they'll just go back to what they were doing and a lot of things in life are like that so maybe you're working on a budget at work and you turn your budget and then you're done yeah and then you move on to the next writing so but you want a lifestyle change right stand a ball and it's hard people think it's it is you know i did not you know almost seventy percent of the population is overweight or obese and i search says that less than half are trying to lose weight because people just kind of given up they think it's too hard you know but it doesn't have to be you can still enjoy food and enjoy your life and it doesn't have to be that r all the small things over time they really do the mad efforts is always better then yeah so any parting thoughts we're sort of like yeah and well i was tell my clients when anything worth doing it's worth doing badly for a little while so just whatever you can do just pick