and twelve we will talk to him in a moment and i want you to welcome back to the carmen mathis show sturk just you know to keep my stage presence and also to try out new material and also meet other jones and people can you been telling me about these talented people for a long time  this last time he called me some kind of way we got in touch with her and he invited me to a karaoke i had never really been to a karaoke spot for some reason or and i had a wonderful time i didn't believe that i could have such a good time and so we had the karaoke you introduced me to all the people and and then he made me saying a song because they made me feel very welcome i had a very good time i even saw a celebrity or two as i don't have a release form i'm not going to call their names but they might be on the show later so we'll just leave it at that for now oh man so now what else do you want to be what do you want to do in the future with this do you want to do some sort of program with this karaoke that you do it's wonderful basically i use karaoke primarily for myself just to kind of keep myself at a point when i'm doing as well as i can do i would really really like to get back in the studio oh i would really like to do this full time again d let's talk about that ok so you are from old school that's my new word th grew up in the in the abraham lincoln houses it seemed like everybody had talent i mean my next door neighbor his father was a musician you know my cousins d weeks and we saying lifestyle ok ok so then what what happened with that you went on to be and yeah as we go older our well had initially my group that i started it was myself my brother and my three cousins ten years old ten years old ten years old went to the apollo fifteen times in a row and actually we were the st group of our age to ever actually open the show right i ten years old we opened for the coasters in the cadillacs why oh you know we opened for them and seven years later seventeen i was with a group known as the millionaire ok and we recorded for the philips label which was a subsidiary of mercury  says you came back since you since you were here last you know we have a company that does videos and things carmen mathis sent ten minutes and so you know we got to talk also but i know you told me when we were as silvia's that you want to do something with the karaoke well here primarily i mean you know on the west coast remember it was a competition is about what it is because when i was living in california  a friend of mine and i had d started to tame a magazine we were also doing a lot of promoting of other groups in the area but she had given me a call and she knew that i was doing karaoke here she said well you know we ought to set up an east west competition we will come from california we will compete against anybody in new york and new york go to california so that's something that i'm tossing around with her at this point ok and you brought her with you yes ok come one me for everyone who does not know this is a wonderful young woman with a unique voice and you have to hear it to believe what i'm saying  so it's introduce to you miss stephanie she are right kill welcome welcome to the carmen mathis show no i met you there at that sylvia's also and i really had a wonderful time with you and singing and everything so  had some technical difficulties else we would have shown you a song a duet but today it's just wasn't happening so you have to wait you will have to wait to hear mr finney and you're going to come back and sing for us and thank you for coming down how did you me start yes yes yes yes i know years ago and star why did you pick this because really be seen really be seen in a different of venue in a broader more broadened with respect to t v and the cable stations you see you know thousands and thousands of people possibly could see ye zoologist yes there's no way that this would you know this opportunity should pass without her being involved a and we're about opportunity everybody this show is about opportunity for other people and and find the people and bring them back on the show so you're getting more information about casea arts that will be producing the carmen mathis show but in the mean time we w value new people we want to expose new people and then we have the old school and i'm not just talking about me and stark i'm telling  school experience and let's see what we can come up with with the new people you like that do you value old school experience really  well you know another one of my favorites with this one is what i really like and this is going to be won by gladys knight the gladys knight name oh yes anything my gladys knight sturk and neither one of us it's sad to think we are not going to make  and it's gotten to the point note we do have to say that breyer where are running on a tight schedule here and i want to thank and give credit to all the people who helped me today thank you sturk thank you stephanie g and thank you also rich who helped us out thank you remember helped somebody somebody and keep both song in your heart until the next time