but in his st public outing sense being fired he went to a lesbian themed musical that is the honest to god truth and we have the picture to prove it but watch out still in office attorney against h i v aids west virginia is supreme court rules that the state's hate crimes law doesn't cover gay people but connecticut bans conversion therapy for minors m i n o r humans yes and a hong kong court is backing rights for gay civil servants who marry overseas say and we're expecting a ruling in the time on same sex marriage case any minute but probably not while we're on the air today as we tape is the international day against homophobia and transfer and by phobia that it is and you know trump headlines always we started this show last week by just throwing up our hands and saying it's hard to keep current with this stuff so we've sort of given up trying so i have a new little rant but i want to start this new live well i sit when i watch this stuff and i think about it so here is my newest thought you may accept or reject as you please you have the opportunity to watch these thoughts go through my head from one ear to the next  the republicans should be taking advantage of what is going on to get rid of trump i think i could call this a conspiracy theory that goes back a long way or one or i can say that they just need to be opportunistic but i think what happened in the election was from came along he was a celebrity he got all the air time people to lost their minds over him and the right wing republicans who knew they could not win with one of their candidates said all right we're jumping on with this guy because this will get us in office and but the price of our jumping on is going to be mike pence is vice president this is our opportunity to put someone and here is on the verge of collapse and i think instead of fighting it instead of going out there and saying oh no he's our guy you're being mean to him follow fake news all of that they should be whipping around and say right let's get rid of him because we can put pence in power now we won't have to deal with that maniac and we can get everything we want out of mike pence in the republican congress who will be so happy to be able to work together that they can take over the world my thoughts almost exactly last night as well why wouldn't they but they have to do it in such a way that i mean they have to wait for the build up so that the trump supporters also agree yeah it's gone too far and that's whether it was a conspiracy from the start now in case you weren't paying attention here and a half ago the koch brothers wanted mike pen to be the next president united states he was their pick yeah but he screwed it up with the gay stuff in indiana you have any made a fool of himself yet many actually did pretty well in the debate against him cain i have to say compared to  gas and he is the one that they've always wanted for president he's a complete right wing not a religious extremist etc and absolutely dependable on all their issues so yes so you know i mean we've all debated oh my god you know if we get rid of trump what would be worse pence well pads at least you know wouldn't we're falling into their trap i think we should think twice and be careful about what we are just forming the president well i just think we should maybe lay back a little but i think we ought to give serious thought to which one of these people we want as president of the united states well my thought in the beginning was he is so prompt is so crazy having his finger on the button scares the hell out of us it's very hard to sleep at night and he can still do that he still knew north and a nd they certainly don't want that but the good thing is he's getting nothing done at the moment not think he's creating a lot of havoc and a lot  of horrible things around the country but not as much as he would like to he's making alliances with people we never thought we'd make peace with you know dictators from around the world  and he's just invited another one to the white house i agree it's totally a matter of timing now about whether the right wing is going to be able to dump him well pence may have his own nixon said he would never quit of course he did a track i will never quit well he's not a quitter you know people used to sue him maybe but he would never settle he settled a couple of cases on the verge of president yet but he never settled he said i can't settle because everybody's after me i never settle cases he's older now well not always press and the united states now yeah but everybody hates him to kill us anyway we give him some good news and so on my focus is on the right wing republicans and how there are maneuvering this there so sure some of it is good news is that we hope that this happened as we're taping today chelsea manning as an active duty soldier manning will continue to receive health care and have access to commissaries of military exchanges but will not be paid but it's crazy that it sounds crazy maybe it's great news when you think they discharge or  you would think i think so and maybe even dishonorably i just hope she actually gets out as you know five i'm on pins and needles about that she's due out today as we're taping chelsea if you're watching you're welcome would love to have you went on the show we're serious about that obviously absolutely w army is that his daughter saw it in chicago and loved it and recommended it to her parents and they decided to they got tickets to go see the show and the tickets they had happened to be the weekend after he was fired so that turned out to be his st foray into public view and i'm very you know we all have mixed feelings about him but we do but the fact that he went backstage and had the picture taken and by the way he was the tall guy in the back very tall and presumably that was his wife standing in front of him we got all these pictures up on there yeah all right i mean other hand  talk about his boss jeff sessions let's do you know absolutely horrified this is what happens i mean you know sessions as is is a maniac about drugs including marijuana and he has now ordered f b i agents d around the country you know the photo of the whole justice department has to if somebody is arrested for any kind of a drug offense you have to seek the maximum sentence possible total break from  take it easy i mean obviously you want to go after drug kingpins and all that kind of stuff you're not users and things like that and fill up the president just you know maybe he's picked on behalf of the president destry it's joe yes it is because the whole point is that they at the trumpet ministration canceled an obama order to cut back on private prisons they're very much in favor of private prisons which are for profit operations and they need to fill up those prisons to involvement but if they succeed in easing trump out voluntarily and without prosecutions and impeachment i think they may make the whole thing just sort of go away a little you know we do have you know trump leaking to the russians and meeting with the russians and not of course bringing up any human rights issues nothing about chechnya nothing about anything he says very explicitly as rex tillerson has said that they will not bring up human rights issues they don't think it's appropriate for government officials to be lecturing other countries about human rights issues now heaven knows we support the concept that the united states has enough human rights issues of her own to not be like shereen anybody but to raise human rights issues that we think is completely appropriate and to take it off the table and think that the presidency is only about trade issues or national security military issues i think is inappropriate well you know i talked to caleb  roscoe this week he was in town getting in a war he's the boat believe guy from bullies who challenged the sodomy law under death threat and everything else and succeeded last august and i asked him i said of things changed overturned yes i have have have things  changed with the united states in terms of the right he said you know we built a lot of relationships with international organizations he says they haven't totally cut off you know stuff with his organization at the embassy  disciplinary committee asking that sessions be disbarred because of the way he lied in the senate hearing and he what he said he did not have any communications with the russians two thousand attorneys from across the united states  good for them and meanwhile in the united states military you may remember that the last d secretary of defense under obama ash carter decided to make it possible for trans members of the military to serve openly and safely and legally and by the trumpet ministration i have trouble with coming up and i worry hard say it the air force academy and west point who are graduating who are trans and they're ok to sort of graduate and be there but they cannot serve in the armed forces they're harder this they have not completed their procedures for how they're going to handle all the at least the guy said they're going to do it and they didn't do it now the question is well the new guy has not done it well whether they will do it  we'll wait to see that because if they can't even keep the guidelines for trance didn't send public schools how can they allow members of the military to serve  to well we're going to start with all the trump things i think we should talk about or what he this executive order that he signed this agreed use executive order this week banning funding for n g o s that had anything remotely to do with abortion that we already had some of this stuff in there but it affected may be you know six hundred million dollars in funding this is going to affect eight billion eight hundred million dollars in international funding and they're just saying well you know and this is a lot of n g o s that deal with hiv aids prevention around the world including a lot of the pepfar funding and they're saying we'll just give it to a smaller group church likely that will get the money down as opposed to all these other groups ther other work if there are other groups this is the international gag rule which has gone back and forth in democratic and republican administrations trying to cut off funding for any international medical group that has any remote connection to abortion because there's some other part of the organization performs refers people or whatever and in republican administrations they impose this and then democratic that would qualify under this expanded rule and so hiv treatment malaria treatment women's reproductive health everything is going to be cut off from u s funding but you know it's  worth it in the cause of upholding christian morality which is why they're looking at calista gingrich as the possible ambassador to the vatican from the united states this is a woman who was you know screwing around with her boss one i was still some years ago oh yeah so what you're what our friend kiersten job rand was appointed senator and exactly she forced him to do it because she came out for it immediately but i think to say that he's not been on board demonstrations that is how most of the freezing cold yeah you know because we've got to push this guy that we need democrats to be a lot stronger than they are totally agree those four i totally agree you know that's all i'm saying yeah that's also i'm saying o those st people who came out however in texas they have a whole list of anti l g b t bills they're working their way through and the newest one is the senate passing an anti steroid bill for athletes and schools but this is specifically targeted at that trance restlessness who was forced to wrestle as a girl with against other girls d even though he had transitioned because texas had a rule that you had to compete in your original birth sex and he was saying now as that's ridiculous i am a boy and i want to wrestle boys and have and he's beaten all the girls out corsi has because he's taking steroids so they're putting their foot down on this and saying you can compete anywhere you know that's a problem if you're medically taking something for you know for your health yes can you then be banned can you ban something that you're taking for you know that will be mined out because the legislature texas this is doing exactly what it wants on that and everything else i mean you know the we get into this with transgender people all the time what are they supposed to do yeah he's got to be able to compete somewhere you can't just ban him from competition yes they can and that's what they're trying to do yes but i you know and they don't care about iran's people and they and they're not looking for accommodations they're looking for ways to exclude them from every was shocked well that's because you have to understand that they're not looking for solutions well and i'm not and neither of the mormons i mean they now say that the boy scouts varsity adventuring programs are no longer compatible with their religion and this is affects one hundred and thirty two million one hundred and eighty thousand teenagers because every boy mormon boy apparently joins the scouts so they're now looking to  there are four hundred and seventy thousand mormon boys and young men ages eight to eighteen in the united states and canada more than two hundred and eighty thousand of them which is way more than half are thirteen and under and will remain associated with the cub scouts and boy scouts but one hundred and eighty five thousand dollars of them and yes that is all mormon kids boys today to fourteen teen will be leaving the boy scouts because of their liberalized policies on gay scouts and scout leaders what are you going to get a revelation that we're ok well what interests me about th someone about black people in the one thousand nine hundred and seventy you know half a one million mormon boys in the cub scouts and boys scouts is a very large number of the scouts across the country and they mormons and the catholics have been the biggest base of the scouts and the scouts have left it to a local option about whether to have openly gay scout leaders they could have stayed under that local option yeah but that kept  it leaders out there worried about the organization and the error there thing well you know look i went to shop at high school on long island and they became so conservative there that the brothers split themselves off from the order to form their own province so they wouldn't have to take anybody liberal coming in from about transferred from another place and in this instance is that the explanation for your fellow alum bill o'reilly they they always held bill o'reilly as a as a par of manhood missouri state representative rick bratton we have a picture of him he got up and gave a speech that said when you look at the tenets of religion of the bible of other religions there is a distinction between homosexuality and just being a human being well this was to let me mean of me you are inappropriate to say that i look at him of yeah and girls should have their father's consent before they get an abortion and they passed a bill to make it more difficult for anybody to sue for discrimination and abuse got to get rid of these haters folks haters now all right did you know my the governor has signed a bill imposing harsh penalties against protesters this is basically aimed at people who are objecting to the sins of the oil and gas industry in oklahoma where local earthquakes have gone from about three a year to about ten million dollars well anybody exaggerate this this law takes in anybody who conspires with protesters yeah just be an environmental group that sponsored a demonstration and you're facing a minimum ten thousand dollars fine if someone spray paints a slogan at all well should the should the trespasser in a demonstration trespasser succeeded tampering with the infrastructure of the oil and gas they face one hundred thousand dollars in fines and ten dollars ten years in prison well here six are a couple of opportunities for you to exercise your right to free speech in the new york area in the next couple of weeks this saturday the th this saturday we are going out we both of us and many people we group which has decided that the russian community needs to see out proud l g b people and because they are not the most welcoming community and so we are joining them going to support them and they have some very celebratory positive signs and we're bringing some gilbert baker bannerjee what we're supposed to wear whenever you want well it's a day at the beach or will i see you would shorts no i don't want to blind people with but with the side of my legs the temperature will be lovely it'll be a damp the beach so we're gathering at a level thirty am on the boardwalk at ocean parkway and will be  to ocean parkway and take your aft and march starts at noon and we'll take an hour or two and then we can go home or you can go to nathan's and get a hot dog or ocean whatever but brighton beach and except that it is donald trump's birthday with oh i think we'll have some messages to send to him exactly what he decides maybe he'll decide to come there maybe he'll be out of office by they held up a rainbow flag upside down during the decision on a hate on a hate crimes prosecution we told you about the case a number of times this guy the prosecution of steward butler who reacted to two gay men kissing and beat them up and this is back in tw fifteen and he's been prosecuted for assault in that case but they said you can't do it on hate crimes because that the west virginia legislature never added sexually in taishan in fact twenty six times said we're not having sexual orientation and you can't just use this excuse that it's covered under sex discrimination although some of the other judges said oh yes you can because you can't have you can't have sexual orientation discrimination without sex discrimination well they should be constitutional questions not popularity question so the fact that the legislature turned it down twenty six times and didn't want to protect sexual orientation to me seems irrelevant to whether i hate crimes laws should include protection for south orientation one of the judges said this is this is his or her argument i can't remember that there's this thing in the law when when you commit a crime you have to know that that's going to be an extra thing if i thought any difference was no excuse and what you know about the hate crimes law from what the legislature has done is that that it doesn't cover sexual orientation that's what they're saying ok well away you won't get an extra penalty while i can understand that i suspect that the vasher did not sit at home studying the hate crimes law before going out and attacking a gay couple  know you know how i think that there should be a lot more education about laws of this country because there are a lot of minefields out there you know we talk to bill dubs all the time who fights people getting on the sex offender registry is so easy to get on that thing from looking at a picture online and things like that you will be on a thing for the rest of your life or registry and you will be able to get a job and you know you know a lot of these people and up committing suicide over there are eight hundred and fifty thousand people on it and it's not your home belong not to read just because they're fearsome people who prey on children but which of course we know we want to stop but it's gotten out of it's gotten out of hand but i think young people should be educated about this  they know that you know you just doing that little clicking there can get you in a hell of a lot of trouble at and we have several other interesting court cases to discuss let us go to  well well st of all well actually the court decision in kentucky was a christian printer who didn't want to print t shirt for gay organization we've discussed the distinction between teen and printers people who print books am flights t shirts versus say cake bankers yes and all and always for instance printers have always said if i'm a printer i don't want to publish pornography i don't have to publish pornography that's my right and i agree with those cases yeah where it's a message you don't have to do it now some of this is too subtle for some people when you talk about bakers and wedding cakes the cake itself is something that you know if you're selling a wedding cake to straight couples you have to sell them to gay couples as well you're not assisting in their you know sin you're selling them a cake and you're the discriminant anti discrimination laws s that you've got a cell in the cake but cake baker is who don't want to sell cakes to same sex couples that have been trying to make the argument that in fact it is expressive and they have a right to not express oh i get that not that's a tough one yeah the one but what about photographers is tough because they say this is my also my artistic expression or i'm taking the photographs and it's not in any right this court in kentucky  decided that in fact the t shirt printer is not required to print pride t shirts that he was asked to print i don't disagree i don't disagree there and there were people from both the left and the right who supported the printer not printing them but i also was sorry to see some pushback from some l g b t people who said you know how dare he and the st amendment protects us all  we're supportive of you don't that's the man this is the constitution you know on the other hand there's this judge in kentucky judge nance who says you know i don't want to handle cases of adoption for gay people anymore because i don't like it and i think i'm against it's and it's like the kim card kim davis case if you are a public employee you have to operate in a nondiscriminatory way and it's not good enough to just say i'm going to recuse myself from this because i'm a big t you have to actually do your job in a way that is non bigoted yes interesting case out of mississippi josh that woman has been sentenced to forty nine years in prison for the two thousand and fifteen murder of his ex girlfriend mercedes williamson who was a trans woman seventeen years old when he killed her the was that he they had a relationship they broke up eventually a couple of years passed and then he learned that some friends of his had figured out that she was trans and he goes to alabama finds her takes her back to mississippi and kills her to prove his manhood now he's already been sentenced to going to honor killing yet he's been sentenced to a life sentence wifes in prison by the state of mississippi for this but because he took her from alabama to mississippi this was the chance for the st time for the federal government a hate crimes law i think this a little piling on but they wanted to establish the right to prosecute under this law so he was convicted under the federal law and got forty nine years as assent and that's because jeff latin kings gang in mississippi and he was really afraid that his fellow gang members would kill him if he didn't kill her although he said at the sentencing that he regrets killing her he thinks it was a filing amicus briefs the case is not over even though gavin has graduated from high school in virginia in zits a court has approved a seven and a half one million dollars settlement between wal mart and  another three hundred dollars plaintiffs who were denied spousal benefits for their same sex spouses so bad case is now finally done in buffalo new york i don't know what they were thinking at mckinley high school but they were totally a beaut abusive to gay students they wouldn't allow against straight alliance to be formed they wouldn't allow any kind of organizing and you know you always lose these cases so the civil liberties union took them on and they buckled i actually i will insert parent that equate here that i had the great opportunity to speak to a high school class that is studying social justice in brooklyn this week and they are part of a demonstration coming up on may th at one o'clock at city hall here in new york as a student demonstration for new york city school integration and equity nice that the students are putting this together with the help of their city council member and city hall may th one pm student demonstration for integration i think that's a we had a great discussion at the school these are great school in manhattan beach a couple of comebacks that we don't welcome bill o'reilly says he was done in by a liberal conspiracy funded by george soros and his lawyer and up but he's going to expose those who smeared him down your bread in the bronx the most notori if griffin twenty six years old he was evidently a very violent guy who's been arrested twenty one times in eight years and was seen on tape shattering a car windshield live  bat or something and he said he's not mentally well and he evidently just clocked her we want to note the passing of one of the louisiana plaintiffs in the same sex marriage case there john  show who with his husband there are go forth to bring marriage equality to the nation he has passed away they married in iowa came back couldn't get recognized and i am looking forward to diving into the new issue of the new yorker where there is a big article on the famous lesbian custody case this is a case we've talked about where woman adopted a child and her ex lover is suing for custody partial custody because she was involved in helping raise the child after they split up very complex and i know all the new sad sad homey cover where they drag and call me up all of an airplane i have it and i know all those sounds bad but the new gallup poll sa sixty four percent of americans now support same sex marriage ok international those well in moscow did we talk about this last week the people trying to deliver potential no that was another group that got and when they were under arrest there in the van out of news to me about this is a couple of them are from all out which we have somewhat sneered at a little because all they do is collect fish and signatures and money now they're getting here and in the israeli government raise the question of what's going on in chechnya and the russian embassy told them there are no problems in chechnya  no nothing everything is absolutely fine i was happy to see that the attorney general of panama said that the same sex marriage bred there is unconstitutional now that's nice and in hong kong a court says that the fact a restaurant chain there in its in and ad campaign in the country has a lesbian couple in the in the ad campaign back to marriage news in bermudez we told you the court  had basically legalized same sex marriage there are three more hoops to jump through but the government will not appeal the program or its ruling and here's my favorite fact of the week as you may or may not know many cruise lines operate under a bermuda fly again and now that marriage has been legalized in bermuda same sex marriages can be performed legally on those ships of the nard princess and lines in queensland which is an australian state they apologized for all these sodomy arrests over the years the the head of government said you've been maligned and shamed and for that w express our deep regret for the hurt you have suffered one of the people who was prosecuted under the law was present for this and he said you know it's he was a teacher and he lost his job and everything and he been very you know it was all of his dreams had been dashed but he says it's like a cloud has been lifted to see that apology i should think so on a slightly lighter note in perth australia the chief executive of quantas airlines who is a gay man and very supportive of same sex marriage in the ongoing debate in australia period in a press conference or giving a speech or something and this right winger came up and hit him in the face with a pie in albania probably but we've been telling about the problems in singapore where they have the big pink gun st they banned gay money now foreigners or well they banned foreign money foreign money yeah corporate money foreign money because homosexuality is illegal in is legal in the same illegal yeah you can get a prison term for being sexually active with a member of your own sex yes and and yet they hold these public events and the way the government is trying to maneuver around it is to cut off the foreign corporate funding cut off foreign participation i'm not sure those are good strategy well because they selected ten milestones over the last one hundred and fifty years that say this is what it is to be canadian and one of them is marriage equality and i think it's terrific i don't think you're going to find that under the  suppose the postal service still able to do this kind of stuff if they want it's not owned by the government well i don't now but they did issue the harvey milk stamp and once again gilbert's rainbow flag is the symbol and that moves me even more yeah up there again and it's going to be a permanent crosswalk the trans flag colors and they do have we also have there is the gay cross walk but they also have so left bridge alberta canada i would not have been the place that i expected permanent cross walks like that in taiwan they're about to rule on same sex marriage the plaintive is a veteran activist there wearing a little rainbow that's that's where you and he has been at it for thirty here and there he's fifty nine years old and he's been an activist all that time and we know he's optimistic and this week prince william was in england was given a straight ally award by analogy bt group once this british l g b t awards which is a big big deal over there i'd never heard of that but there they are well he gave us a slightly stilted but heartfelt speech of public which is a problem you know that she's never spoken out on those issues over the years i mean in this way and this way that this generation is well certainly her progeny are maybe now that phillip is out of the way because he move which takes us to entertainment news and here is the segue in new york the quad cinema which has been redone and remodeled and everything is going to start showing  series of old l g b t q films starting with morris forest based on the e o forrester novel starring hugh grant and james will be and hugh grant always said it was my best ternium foresters lifetime he was to lose skinner died yeah that was around one thousand and seventy nine i was just coming out of the time it was a book we all picked up was you know exciting yeah there weren't that many gay novels in those days of repute you know and it was shocking i like the fact that it was two muslim men and that you know but one of them of course is some kind of a god in their you know the shooting fire to each other and they're not wearing condoms and but i thought the whole thing was a little hokey  th on the smithsonian channel they're doing a show called my big bollywood wedding which is going to cover a number of real life weddings of d indian people  partner todd of fourteen he had made together for fourteen years they met on a blind date at the karaoke bar in two thousand and two when todd saying shares i found so they got married at the rainbow room in new york as some winnie the pooh production very sophisticated and i sat on the edge my role is to sit on the edge of the stage eat this souls and complain people thought it was typecasting that well now it's fifty years later you bitter and resentful picks up in the nd act when things get serious and i was especially taken by this woman cynthia harris as the great tabitha she'd make a great lady bracknell whatever she decides to do it i do she hasn't done it in the importance of being  congratulations to another young actor who has come out as bisexual is not as i haven't said his name yet because it's a little difficult to pronounce but let's give it a try my hair i like to take risks with how i dress i like girls and i like guys yes i am growing i like learning he says i think there's more and more about it and i found that when the student side talked to the high school students this week that there was more openness more sophistication more eagerness to be involved and a lot of questions about activism it wasn't questions about being of them will and i hope some of you will because i think it's an important move to be visible in a community that is still not as you used to this says some others so saturday ocean parkway stop on the