who is a natural public doctor so we are so excited to talk about holistic health and to talk about how this is really becoming foundational in our holistic medical care moving forward absolutely by the way does a two part segment today so we're really excited so welcome welcome to tell us about the journey how you end up here yeah absolutely so i always knew at a young age that i wanted to be a i wanted to do high school that all my sciences i did pre med classes in university i have brought my i am cat but i was burnt out at the end of my bachelor degree burnt out i had put on more than the freshman fifteen it was like more like a freshman fifty if i was being really honest i getting tons of weight i was just tired so i decided that i was not going to enter med school i wanted to take some time off and i also during that time didn't feel like a conventional traditional medical doctor was what i wanted to do so in my time off i ended up really transforming my own health things id i had depression and i had my real first severe anxiety attack when i was about twenty three twenty four it left me hospitalized and the doctor was like oh you'd have to pressure and take these pills and it'll be ok it's right and that's what they know and i can't fault them that's what they know right but i know that when i was on the i was a zombie i wasn't myself and i really wasn't living a happy life at all and you're not healing because you're not even getting  i'm just waking up and just going through life so in comes my yoga practice which was so instrumental in really transforming and shaping how i look at health and what health really is and health doesn't have to just be a one size fits all take this prescription and you're ok so through my yoga practice i started doing morning boot camp i learned about nutrition huge i don't think we give nutrition enough credit nutrition changed and same sign on a train and i don't know people believe in signs but i swear i got on this train every day for a good two weeks and it said do you want to be a healer do you have a passion for medicine do you want to get to the root cause and you know and something just speaks to you think like  to and it only took me two weeks to realise it but i ended up signing up for a seminar friday night saturday morning i attended it in new york city and i heard administrator speak i heard other natural the doctors that are practicing talk about what they do students that were studying and i was like ok this is it the calling that's what i'm doing went home research googled it there are only eight accredited natural patrick medical schools in north america so i was like ok one's in my hometown toronto and i'm going to apply to the other one that really spoke to me at this talk which was in tempe arizona i ended up flying out on a friday thursday night interviewed friday morning i thought i tanked my me that tuesday i got my acceptance letter the wednesday i had another interview for the school in toronto now i had the decision do i stay in iran oh do i go to you know arizona and my mom who is a huge influence in my life was like a turn on your home like we're not going anywhere those planes right right go away and best decision ever because in arizona not just i think doctors are considered primary care right we diagnose we you know i do i the ten codes we work with insurance companies so my experience and all of the opportunities that i had were ten times more than what i would have had had i stayed home in ontario where not to have the doctors aren't considered primary care i'm not writing prescriptions right so my training in arizona was a four year degree program intense so you have to have a certain grade you know requirement to get in there and now a lot of schools are asking for the m katz so a lot of people think you know you don't really know medicine but our first two years is modeled after medical school not a me spent a year in a cadaver lab working on cadavers physiology about chemistry i learned pharmacology we learned i think on our pharmacology exam was about two hundred twenty drugs that we were tested on plus that i have to know all of the other alternative things right i have to know if a patient  take this blood pressure medication i can't give this herb so we have to note drug drug interaction drug herb interactions i learned chinese medicine cupping acupuncture but chinese herbs nutrition like i said bread and butter of what i do there's not one client that i know that does not get any kind of dietary recommendation when they meet me because she said let food be the medicine apple right like what we're doing before wendy's and we were putting in your body how your body is metabolize larry and in western medicine we're not spending a lot of time on that we're not so we're missing it so this in my opinion right whole list all of it yes eastern western it is so that's why i love what i do i get to make customized wellness plans for every single patient and it's not a one size fits all right me oh sure because nor should it be because when people come in they're at different stages in their  can't give one person an entire sheet of things to do and they're already anxious we have to week by week we build month by month we add on and as you get better we take things away we improve we enhanced so i always tell my patients i work with us and there's no band aids here it's going to take some hard work and it's going to be an uphill battle but i'm always rooting for you because i'm always going to cheer you on because i want you to get better right like my goal is for you to live your happiest healthiest life that really what we're here to do inspire you empower you so that's what i do not what i love about what i do and i work with people of all ages all conditions and it's always a different kind of attack words in front of me yeah right i'm where i am we're we're individuals have experienced so much you know individually as a person that we couldn't possibly be a cookie cutter that are going to be a cookie cutter solution very which is what i love about this work very has it really you know when you think about all the testing in traditional medicine and then just kind of shooting at this big generalized population everything affects you know your you know your mental your mind your body everything your spirit so if we're not looking at all of her as you said yeah then we're really not being fair to yourself and we it's kind of like we have to give ourselves permission and feel valued enough yes that we deserve it because i think that's one of the hardest things is that listen it's an investment of time yes it's an investment of money it's a big commitment it is so you need to be ready for that and you need to be able to say i'm to step up into it ready to take it seriously exactly because listen otherwise and it is a band aid right it is even with the natural even with the natural and my goal is not to have people taking twenty thirty supplement because they you know do it's no different to twenty thirty per prescriptions my goal is if you need it once a while takes machination takes an elderberry but let's get your body to a point where it can do what it can on its own and when we need to it's odd the healing power of nature right in there that's for a minute in there like you said i look at everything think people are missing the connection yeah i know when i go to the doctor they come in with a pair i pad and they say ok oh yeah i think you have this you're all right you separate them out so i'm like ok nobody even asked me how i was and i had recent blood work and i showed it to parents i mean i'm right there's a whole host of things overstressed at work etc even just let it come in in the evenings how is your right to my office but how are you because it's traffic your straight years someone cut you off someone runs the re track coming up with the red face many years and we're working in an organization where the impression or or the expectation is that people are going to move like an amoeba right but what we found over the years is us not true and people move at an individual pace the units so so just kind of aligning those two things and us working with people on an individual as well as collective perspective realizing that they're there suffering and there there are gaps and right so we've wade into really thinking about you know getting involved in wellness and getting deeper in that but i've had people say oh ok well you guys are getting involved in holistic wellness and all these other practices  does that mean you don't believe in madison and you know and when we talk about you know holistic or natural path there remedies do you do you is is it that you don't believe in westernized nice and no that's not the interesting piece is that synergy and you mentioned to us that you work with doctors and you know which i think is you know again that's a team right and i think everyone so when you look at so i love sports and my friend was like all great athletes have coaches they have a team they have a physiotherapist they have their coax so why can't you who is just as deserving have a team have your andy have your acupuncturist have your not just have a doctor and all of us work collectively to support you so i have lots of clients i will say hey if you want to be a pirate you're awesome if not cool choice is yours for those who continue to see their m d i always reach out yeah so what is that like when you reach out like yeah and i just take it with a grain of salt as it's not a personal attack against me you know there are that's their training right so i never fault them that's you know my training is to look at everything there and that's their training so you know that's just differences of opinion i don't take it personally i will support my patient however and in whatever capacity they want me to but i think that's where a patient has to make a decision or so right because i was in a situation like that where i was working with someone on the nutritional side right and then i had this blood work done in everything and i took to the doctor and i said i want to talk to you about this and he was like yeah well i really don't get into that and i just looked at him and i said why and he said well you know not that i know nothing against souls type of people are doctors what ari said but you know we look at things from a different perspective  said you know you can't give up on traditional medicine i sit here but i don't i'm not wanting to give up on traditional medicine i just don't want to be loaded with pharmaceuticals every time and i'm not getting better i'm trying to figure out what the root cause is right and it was kind of shut down so obviously i changed it doctor but it was hard to find a doctor that was open to the listening to that they're out there yeah yeah one summer i spent back home in toronto i worked with an m d and he did family practice he was open to it and he didn't just ok whatever right so i was really appreciative and anytime i come across people that regardless of what profession you're in and we share that same like minded right we just want people to be better right yeah right that's  that i'm like yeah like we're going to do this so i'm all for it collaboration is there's nothing wrong with that there's no i in team you know not i and why so when it comes to your health why should it be that way yeah exactly and you're right  educate people because at the end of the day the consumer the patient is really in the driver's seat and so educating you know individuals about some of this work is part of our goal you know and then you know they can also choose their team right i think it's i'm starting to see more of a shift with some folks whereby now they're actually going for a second you know visit or a second you know  like a second opinion thank you because now they're knowing that hey i this is my health and i i can do this so i think it's great so those are to see the mind shift coming from the west coast where it's it's totally  different and much more recent so you know when i get the chance to be in a room or speak with people just to share what i do and maybe help to debunk some of the mess that they might have around what i do and you know sharing with them that no i have this training you know when you do rigorous board exams you know three strikes and you're out you know they're not kidding around when it comes to your grades if you can't get it together with your herbs and your pharmacology by yeah you know so that's a lot to fairly different world so it is you've got to stay up on many things in addition to your own practice absolutely right so so how do you do that like because everything changes obviously it was that like  so for me i'm licensed in the state of new hampshire and so with that i have to have a certain amount of continue education credits in some apology and now because of the opioid epidemic i have to have a certain amount of to education credits in conference's reading i pretty much started my day reading like some type of journal i just was reading one today on just your own and how it binds to certain gaba receptors which is why it can mimic the effects of like an anxiety medication versus a stuff like so you know just staying on top of it and the different sectors in the brain and so that's you know that's for me and i know that by doing it and bettering myself for my patients so that's my motivation behind children like hormones yes they do might not be the rate of you know there are twenty two year old counterpart but children make hormones there's cortisol there's insulin there we make hormones thyroid hormones so they make it i think sometimes like you say mr you know see it's all hands on so they can have hormone imbalance absolutely yeah yeah and there's a it makes me wonder like we talk about this all the time from a just the depression anxiety overwhelmed i mean you know you have kids on antidepressants and her young age is yes what the heck what that and i see a trend specially around finals and exams were children coming in and parents are like will they want to up their dose and i'm here about it again until the next six months to have them back there again and they're giving you ramble the dose sorry nobody's really getting cured or diagnose right or getting to the root problem of why is this person having this was done and we just have to sit down and talk  you know i think we have this conversation growing up today as a teen or ori hats off to you guys because it there's a lot yeah so let's just have these conversations about it you know yes some people might need  an anti depressant ok but when we start talking about children who are thirteen fourteen and now they're on the read the scriptures and they're still now they're still not knowing any better all and we're not doing the work right we're giving the madison which i think can maybe help get you to  so so when you know as we continue to talk about this and really continue to learn about you know some of these other remedies really and you know healing components i think it's great for people to have another avenue i say also i want to talk about and we have a little bit of time graft but talk about real quickly if you could the effects of pharmaceutical you know in our body to effects of antibiotics and really what that's doing to us is going to hey now it's it's true so true what we're seeing now and what i learned you know in our micro classes is a lot of these antibiotics just are not working like they used to and now we're having all these attack bacteria so it's a viral infection which a lot of kiddos often get going to work and you know i always if you have to take an antibiotic take a probiotic with it at the same time right because they're getting is going to go in there and wipe things out nicely and then we don't replenish it so take it if you have to take it absolutely but let's talk about replenishing with good quality probiotics right let's add some foods in there that are also fermented  i think it's so critical and we're not getting that piece you know when we're you know are handed that script we're not being told the effect that has you know and you know god forbid like we've mentioned you're on two three four you know within several years when you go let's talk about how you can make healthier choices yeah and i like a little bit and how you can prep a little differently yeah you have preparations you have one body let's try to like take care of it as best as we can so i'm all about giving you tips easy things to do so you can implement i want to give my patients and clients enough tools in their toolbox so that once i discharge them because i discharge people once they've gotten to a point that you're good to go right right yeah  close out to tell people how they can get a hold of you absolutely so our business is infinite wellness we are located in warrington which if you're in jersey just south of new hope which i think most people are familiar with our website is w w w dot my guys thanks